ALL DATE I2- I-zone EY @1224 Us nnuxasrtiini -1- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date oftranscription BRUCE EDWARDS IVINS, white male, date of birth SSAN was contacted at his place of employment, the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), for the purposes of transporting individual to the Hilton Garden Inn, Frederick, Maryland while sealed Federal Grand Jury (FGJ) search warrants were being executed on numerous locations associated with IVINS 'sed of the official identities of the agents, FBI whom IVINS was familiar with, and SSA United States Postal Inspection Service. The purpose of the current interaction with federal agents was articulated and optional. IVINS provided the following information: IVINS was met at the front ortico of USAMRIID at 8:10 pm by Supervisory A) and United States Postal Ins ector, IVINS exited USAMRIID buildin with renew FBI Special Agents (sz-ii, sA aht1 SA after concludin a voluntary in erview con uc ed by a AMRIID. to Ivins that Federal Search Warrants were a ou be executed at numerous locations and that arrangements had been made to provide accommodations for IVINS and his family since his personal residence was involved. IVINS stated that he wanted to speak with his lawyer. explained to IVINS that he was not under arrest, was free eave at any time, could speak with his attorney at any time, and if interested could be taken to the Hilton Garden Inn, Frederick, Mar land. IVINS accepted the offer for accommodations, entered SSA vehicle and was seated in the front passengers seat. SSA sat directly behind IVINS in the second row seat after a short conversation with SAs and nder the portico. SSAs and xplained to IVINS that tn; arrangements would be made acquire any and all medications needed and that food would be provided. IVINS advised that he, in fact, did need his medications from both home and work and that "he was not hungry, he was too nervous to eat". told IVINS that his medications from his personal residence and his Investigation on at File# -- o? 2 Date dictated ll/06/2007 SSA by SSA This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. i BEI Section 5.pdf i {ll, 279A-WF-222936 Brugg Iyjpg ,0n 2 place of employment would be collected and giv personally at the hotel. IVINS then inquired about b6 present state of health and proceeded to state the gross facts . regarding a motor vehicle (MVA) writer was involved in back in August 2004. SSAE;EE;iiEjnever had disclosed the facts or circumstances of this acci en wi IVINS on any occasion, or any other individual at USAMRIID. When asked if he (IVINS) was famil' the search warrant process, IVINS said he was not. that numerous locations associated with him (IVINS) were going to be searched. It was also explained that his (IVINS) personnel ossessions and thos fam' be treated with respect ssAs end exited with IVINS at 8:25 pm. IVINS as if cou call his attorney and advised he did not have a phone. that he was free to call anyone he wanted, when he wanted, and that arrangements could be made for phone access, or that he could use . my phone. IVINS did not accept the offer. In regards to the searches, IVINS if he was worried about those searches. IVINS stated that he was. After a few minutes IVINS explained that he does things a "middle age man should not do" and that those things would "not be acceptable to most people". He further explained that in the basement of his personal residence is a bag of material that he uses to "cross-- dress". No further detail was provided, nor asked for. SSA to IVINS that both he and SSA were not here to judge him and that he was free to do wha ed in his own home as long as it did not hurt anyone. SSA then - pointed out the fact that after this very persona isc osure, he (IVINS) still looked anxious and preoccupied. IVINS then articulated want to be labeled a "mass killer or terrorist". SSA told IVINS that he had known him for a long time and did not view him in that light. IVINS stated that he could not believe we thought he could be the "anthrax mailer". These are words that were never used to ether by this interaction. told at he ieve he mailer never meant to hurt anyone because the mailings were taped, disclosed the presence of anthrax, and warned the recipients to take penicillin, an acceptable and appropriate treatment for anthrax exposure. IVINS did not verbally respond but BEI Section 5.pdf 279A-WF--222936 gruge Edward Ivins ,0n .Pagc 3 b6 physically exhibited a dramatic jerking body movement in his seat, b7? paused, and looked to the floor. When asked if there were any other items that would be of interest to the FBI, IVINS responded that there were boxes of paper materials also in the basement tucked up against a wall, but the FBI could not view these materials since he labeled them "attorney- client privilege". IVINS if he had ever taken classified material from USAMRIID home, or would there be any classified materials in those boxes, IVINS responded "yes" he believed there were. IVINS spontaneousl articulated, and not in res onse to an estioned asked by that asked him in he ever had sex wit IVINS proceeded to answer his own question and said that he a not. would their be anything in any of the search locations, such as hazardous materials or biological materials of any kind, especially in the residence that could hurt anyone conducting a search. IVINS replied that their were no hazardous materials and no "anthrax" would be found. IVINS was asked again if he would like to get something to eat at a local restaurant to which he responded, "he could not eat at this time". at the Hilton Garden Inn, Frederick, Maryland at pm where IVINS asked if he could call his attorney. again that he was free to call whomever he wish, an a he was ody. IVINS asked where his room was and IVINS to his room. A door IVI again aske 1 was in custody to which responded no. IVINS was provided with his room key. SSA and entered the adjoining room from where the two would prov de any logistical support needed by IVINS during his stay, to include the delivery of his medicine, and vehicle and house keys post search. IVINS entered through the adjoining door moments a er is initia entry to his (IVINS) room. IVINS sat down, accepted a can of soda but refused food. At 8:52 pm the telephone in room rang and was answered speak with his attorney, named (ph) stated that he was out of town and asked if his client was in custody to BEI Section 5.pdf -- b6 279A-WF--222936 b" Bruce Edward Ivins 4 which I replied no. I insisted that any future contact shou one through the United States Attorneys Office, in the District of Columbia, with Assistant United States Attorney (Ausm (ph) further stated that he thought it was ig a ypica for is client to be next to a room of federal agents. ssh;] explained to (ph) that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) usua oes not provide housing when executing federal search warrants but due to the fact these warrants were being executed at night, and the FBI and Department of Justice (DOJ) were trying to do everything in their power to prevent this incident from being reported in the national ress that we believed this was the appropriate course of action. was going to advise his client to leave, I responded that he is free to go, but advised we would need a le to contact his client to deliver his n' medicines, and his vehicle and house keys post search. asked to speak with his clien which I handed over the phone to IVINS. subse uentl provided with contac ers via (cell), on Hilton Garden Inn stationary at he end of th call. IVINS at the conclusion of his call with his provided a hand written note on Hilton Garden Inn a ionary, ictated The note read: (verbatim) Bruce Ivins hereby refuse to speak to anyone or answer any questions without the presence of my attorney. 1 November 07 I 9:13 do adjoining rooms was then shut by IVINS. iandi Ihad no further contact with IVINS attorney, At 9:13 pm an individual knocked on the adjoining door which was opened by SSA The individual wh was IVINS, who subsequently to his second lawyer, attorne (p sent to the Hilton Garden Inn by attorney roduced us (SSAs to as and then asked if a doctor. quic admonished IVINS, equentl advised IVINS to refer to us as "Special Agents" BEI Section 5.pdf 10-6-95) 0 b6 279A-WF--222936 omunumaonorm-amor Bruce Edward Ivins .0n ll[Ol[2QQ7 .5. At 10:09 pm, SSA an knocked on the adjoining door and turned over four bottles of medication requested by two bottles of Ambien, one bottle of Celexa, one bottle - of Diazepam. IVINS was open can of caffeine free Pepsi from SSAs and hotel room to use while taking his medication; abstained from taking granola bar, pizza or other nourishment. At 6:27 am, on November 2, 2007 SSA knocked on the adjoining door and returned the multiple vehicle and house keys to IVINS. At 8:54 am SSA an checked out of the room at the Hilton Garden Inn, Frederick, Mary and and had no further contact with IVINS. The hand written notes from IVINS and the time log was put to an FD--340 1A envelope and filed appropriately. BEI Section 5.pdf