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Byron Curtis
Friday, October 09, 2015 9:39 AM
terry.cronkite@oag.ok.gov
Amy Elliott
Charles Warner

Hello Agent Cronkite
Ms. Learned forwarded me your questions as per below.
Yes we have blood samples for # 1500255, C. Warner.
As listed on the toxicology report we tested and quantitated the blood for nnidazolam.
We did not test the vials or syringes, and the evidence bags containing what was described as leftover "unused" items
were not opened, and were left in the condition they were received.
In terms of testing for potassium, it can be done but the concentrations in the blood cannot be reliably distinguished
from those of naturally deceased persons as potassium rises dramatically after death due to release of potassium store
inside of cells.
Acetate rapidly forms acetic acid in solution and is converted by the body to bicarbonate so it is unclear whether the
blood itself could be tested for it.
It is unlikely that the paralytic could be tested for in the blood at this point due to it being highly unstable.
It is unclear if the un-injected solutions of the paralytic would be stable enough to be tested after this time span. They
maybe.
I have done some initial inquiries regarding testing of the syringe solutions, and the type of testing lies within the
capability of laboratories who test drug formulations for pharmaceutical firms.
I also believe the main FBI laboratory has the equipment to do the appropriate testing.
I presume a written request/Order from the AG office would be sufficient for us to release the evidence to whatever
laboratory/entity is designated for testing, should that direction be taken.
All we should need is that request and where it should be sent and we can coordinate with the other laboratory to
arrange a transfer of specified items or all items whichever your office deems appropriate, for whatever testing is
deemed appropriate.
As always we will help facilitate where possible.

Regards

Byron Curtis Ph.D. F-ABFT, Chief Forensic Toxicologist
Office of the Chief Medical Examiner —State of Oklahoma
Toxicology Laboratory Director
From: Terry Cronkite [mailto:terry.cronkite@oag.ok.gov]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 5:19 PM
To: Kari Learned
Subject: Question about Case #1500255 (Charles Warner Autopsy and Toxicology Reports)
Do you know if any Charles Warner blood samples still exist for testing at OCME?
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 We anticipate having to test Charles Warner's blood for the chemicals contained therein ...... .. and also test any
remaining chemicals left in the vials and syringes for identification.
The toxicology report and M.E. Autopsy report was not specific as to whether or not such testing was done. Do you
know if these tests were done at OCME?
Thanks for any information.

Terry Cron kite
Chief Agent in Charge
Office of Attorney General
313 N.E. 21st Street
Oklahoma City, OK 73105
405.522.4767 Office
405.522-4535 Fax

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