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the owner of the entities that own the buildings but
has no -- but has no ownership in Primecare because no
one owns it. It's a 501(c)(3), but in Dr. Scoccia's
mind he owned itthe highway.

He wanted to do what he wanted to do and be dammed with
anybody else. It didn't make any difference. Now,
see, you've got me going a little bit. If I'm the
administrator of a hospital and a doctor comes in my
office, Dr. Scoccia, and says, if I drop a piece of
paper on the floor and tell you to pick it up,
you best pick it up, that's not a good administrator.
And he's telling me that as administrator of the
hospital.

Q. When you were the administrator, did you
answer to Dr. Scoccia and Karen Scoccia or the board?

A. I felt that I answered to Karen Scoccia,
period. And while I saw Dr. Scoccia more, we did not
have a very we didn't communicate a lot.

Q. Do you know if Karen Scoccia worked in the
medical field prior to becoming CFO of the hospital?

A. I have no all I know was she was an
accountant. She did something for, I believe, his
practice in Ohio, so she may have done some accounting.

Otherwise, no. I don't have knowledge of it.

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