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FOX NEWS SUNDAY INTERVIEW: SITDOWN WITH PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP
PART ONE OF THREE
CHRIS WALLACE, HOST: According to the Washington Post, the CIA has concluded that Russia
intervened in the election to help you win the presidency. Your reaction.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT-ELECT: I think it's ridiculous. I think it's just another excuse. I
don't believe it. I don't know why and I think it's just -- you know, they talked about all sorts of
things. Every week it's another excuse. We had a massive landslide victory, as you know, in the
Electoral College. I guess the final numbers are now at 306—da-- and she -- you know, down to
a very low number. No I don't believe that at all.
WALLACE: You say you don't know why. Do you think that the CIA is trying to overturn the
results (CROSSTALK) of the election?
TRUMP: No, I don't think they're saying anything.
WALLACE: Or somehow to weaken you in office?
TRUMP: Well, if you look at the story and you take a look at what they said, there's great
confusion. Nobody really knows, and hacking is very interesting. Once they hack if you don't
catch them in the act you're not going to catch them. They have no idea if it's Russia or China
or somebody. It could be somebody sitting in a bed some place. I mean, they have no idea.
WALLACE: So, why would the CIA put out the story that the Russians wanted you to win.
TRUMP: Well I'm not sure they put it out. I think the Democrats are putting it out because they
suffered one of the greatest defeats in the history of politics in this country. And frankly, I think
they're putting it out. And it's ridiculous. We ought to get back to making America great again,
which is what we're going to do. And we've already started the process.
WALLACE: You’ve said repeatedly you don't believe the intelligence community's analysis, that
the Russians were involved.
TRUMP: They're not sure. They're fighting among themselves. They're not sure.
WALLACE: But the question is, these are the folks you're going to have to rely on -TRUMP: Sure.

 WALLACE: -- to know what's going on in the world.
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: Of course, I've made changes, you know, at the top. I mean, we're going to have
different people coming in, because we have our people. They have their people, and I have
great respect for them. But if you read the stories -- the various stories, there’s disputing -- I
mean, they're disputing. And certain groups don't necessarily agree. Personally, it could be
Russia. It -- I don't really think it is, but who knows? I don't know either. They don't know and I
don't know.
WALLACE: I just want to ask you about your skepticism about the intelligence community. You
are getting the presidential daily brief -TRUMP: Yes.
WALLACE: -- only once a week.
TRUMP: Well, I--I get it when I need it.
WALLACE: But is it -- is there some skepticism –
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: You know, I get -- first of all, these are very good people that are giving me the
briefings. And I say, "If something should change from this point, immediately call me. I'm
available on one-minute's notice." I don't have to be told -- you know, I'm, like, a smart
person. I don't have to be told the same thing in the same words every single day for the next
eight years. Could be eight years -- but eight years. I don't need that. But I do say, "If
something should change, let us know." Now, in the meantime, my generals are great -- are
being briefed. And Mike Pence is being briefed, who is, by the way, one of my very good
decisions. He is terrific. And they're being briefed. And I'm being briefed also. But if
they're going to come in and tell me the exact same thing that they tell me -- you know, it
doesn't change, necessarily. Now, there will be times where it might change. I mean, there will
be some very fluid situations. I'll be there not every day, but more than that. But I don't need
to be told, Chris, the same thing every day, every morning -- same words. "Sir, nothing has
changed. Let's go over it again." I don't need that.
WALLACE: President Obama just ordered a full review of Russia's involvement -- hacking in the
election. And Democrats are now calling for hearings. Do you think this is part of an effort to
undercut you?

 TRUMP: Well, it could be. I think President Obama has been terrific. He's been, you know, very
respectful of the process and everything else. So, I saw that. But – and--and I want it, too. I
think it's great. I think -- well, I don't want anyone hacking us, and I'm not only talking about
countries. I'm talking about anyone, period. But if you’re gonna to do that, I think you should
not just say "Russia." You should say other countries also, and maybe other individuals. It's not
necessarily just –
(CROSSTALK)
WALLACE: But you think there's a political effort here.
TRUMP: It could be. I mean, it could be. Hey, look. We had -- many people are saying -- one of
the great victories of all time. They're very embarrassed.

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FOX NEWS SUNDAY INTERVIEW: SITDOWN WITH PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP
PART TWO OF THREE
CHRIS WALLACE, HOST: We're calling this program "The Trump Way," because I've got to tell
you, in almost 40 years of covering presidential transitions, I have never seen anything like
this. You are setting markers for foreign countries. You're telling corporations and unions what
to do, and you're not even in office yet. What can we expect when you're actually the
president?
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT-ELECT: My attitude? I want us to make good deals for this
country. I don't need a $4.2 billion airplane to fly around in, okay? I don't need that. And
especially when it's totally out of control, because you know, they've lost control of it and I let
them know that I don't want this. I just see things that's so incredible. If you look at the F-35
program with the money, the hundreds of billions of dollars and it's out of control, and the
people that are making these deals for the government, they should never be allowed to go to
work for these companies. You know, they make a deal like that and then a year later, or two
years later, or three years later you see them working for these big companies that made the
deal. I'm going to put a very -- you know, lobbyist I’m doing. This is bigger than the
lobbyists. When people order from these massive companies, these massive deals, I don't want
the people that are making these horrible, and they're horrible, deals, the over-runs, the cost
over-runs, I don't want them going to work for the companies after the deals are made. They
should have a lifetime restriction.
WALLACE: In the last few days you have named cabinet heads, department agency people, at
EPA, at labor, at health and human services, education who are diametrically opposed to what
those agencies have been doing for the last eight years. Fair to say that you're going to take a
wrecking ball to the Obama legacy?
TRUMP: No. No. No. I don't want to do that at all. I just want what's right. EPA, you can't get
things approved. I mean, people are waiting in line for 15 years before they get rejected,
okay? That's why people don't want to invest in this country. I mean, you look at what's going
on and you can look at a jobs report, but take a look at the real jobs report, which are the
millions of people that gave up looking for work, and they're not considered in that number
that's less than 5 percent, okay? I mean, we have jobs that are in the pipeline and I deal with all
the executives, the big ones and the small ones. I have really gotten to know this country and
when you have to wait 10 and 15 years for an approval and then you don't even get the
approval, it's no good.
WALLACE: So let me ask you--

 TRUMP: So we're going to clean it up. We're going to speed it up and, by the way, if somebody
is not doing the right thing we're not going to approve.
WALLACE: Let's talk about the environment, because in the last week you met with Al Gore and
you met with Leo DiCaprio, famous environmentalist.
TRUMP: Sure, and they were good meetings.
WALLACE: And on the other hand you appointed Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt to be
the head of the EPA.
TRUMP: Speed up the process.
WALLACE: He's been suing EPA.
TRUMP: Sure.
WALLACE: At one point in the campaign you said it's a hoax.
TAPE: Donald Trump- Climate Change- The O’Reilly Factor- December 3, 2015
“I think it’s a big scam for a lot of people to make a lot of money. In the meantime, China is
eating our lunch because they don’t partake in all of the rules and regulations that we do.”
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WALLACE: On the other hand you told the New York Times that you're open-minded about it.
TRUMP: I am open-minded.
WALLACE: So, where are you on the environment?
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: I'm very open-minded. I'm still open-minded. Nobody really knows. Look, I'm
somebody that gets it and nobody really knows. It's not something that's so hard and fast. I do
know this: other countries are eating our lunch. If you look at what China's doing. If you look at
what -- I could name country after country. You look at what's happening in Mexico where our
people are just -- plants are being built and they don’t wait 10 years to get an approval to build
a plant, okay? They build it like the following day or the following week. We can't let all of
these permits that take forever to get stop our jobs. I won because of the fact that people that
are great, great American people have been forgotten. I call them the forgotten man and the
forgotten woman. They've been forgotten. And you, in all fairness, and all of the folks in your
world and business you forgot about these people. They're not going to forget about them in
four years. They're already trying to figure out what happened, but I understood it because I
understand our country.

 WALLACE: Let me ask you a couple of specific questions. Will you still pull out of the Paris
Climate Agreement, which has been signed by more than a hundred countries, to reduce
carbon emissions. Will you restart the Dakota Access pipeline, which the Army just stopped?
TRUMP: Okay. Let me not answer the Dakota, because perhaps that’ll be solved by the time I
get there, so I don't have to create enemies on one side or the other. But I will tell you, when I
get to office, if it's not solved, I'll have it solved very quickly.
WALLACE: Meaning you're going to start it.
TRUMP: I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying, something will happen. It'll be quick. I think
it's very unfair. So, it’ll start, one way or the other -WALLACE: And Paris?
TRUMP: -- you'll have a decision one -- pretty quickly. And also, the Keystone pipeline, you’re
gonna have a decision fairly quickly. And you'll see that. Now, Paris, I'm studying. I do say
this. I don't want that agreement to put us at a competitive disadvantage with other
countries. And as you know, there are different times and different time limits on that
agreement. I don't want that to give China, or other countries signing agreements an
advantage over us.
WALLACE: You have already named three retired generals to top positions. Any concern about
having too many -TRUMP: No.
WALLACE: -- military men at the top of your administration?
TRUMP: Well, President Obama named three generals also. And-and you know, these are
tremendous people. Sort of -- in certain cases, they transitioned into civilian life. But I like
generals. I think generals are terrific, you know? They go through schools and they sort of end
up at the top of the pyramid. And it's like a test. They passed the test of life. That's how they
got to be a general, and other people didn't. So, I sort of like generals. And I like the three that
I have very, very much.
WALLACE: Have you settled on a Secretary of State?
TRUMP: I'm getting very close. I'm getting very, very close.
WALLACE: Do you know who it's going to be?
TRUMP: I just have -- I have someone in mind that I think will be really fabulous. I think we're
going to have one of the great cabinets ever put together.
WALLACE: So, let me ask –
(CROSSTALK)

 TRUMP: And we're getting that kind of review, which is –
(CROSSTALK)
WALLACE: So, let me ask you about Rex Tillerson.
TRUMP: Okay.
WALLACE: Head of Exxon Mobil. Why does a business executive make sense as the chief
diplomat?
TRUMP: Well, in his case, he's much more than a business executive. I mean, he's a world-class
player. He's in charge of, I guess the largest company in the world. He's in charge of a- an oil
company that's pretty much double the size of his next serious competitor. It's been a
company that's been unbelievably managed. And to me, a great advantage is he knows many
of the players, and he knows them well. He does massive deals in Russia. He does massive
deals for the company -- not for himself -- for the company.
WALLACE: He's the Secretary of State.
TRUMP: No. No. But I have tremendous respect for him. He's a world-class player.
WALLACE: I'm trying to get you to say –
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: But I have others. I know you are
WALLACE: [laughs]
TRUMP: And you're doing very well. But I have others, also, that I think -- I mean, Bob Corker is
a fantastic guy. Mitt Romney -- I've really gotten to know him, and I get along with him really
well. But these are -- you know, these are all very different types of people. But when you ask
me about Rex, I mean, he's a world-class player. There's no question about it.

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FOX NEWS SUNDAY INTERVIEW: SITDOWN WITH PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP
PART THREE OF THREE
CHRIS WALLACE, HOST: You recently took a call from the President of Taiwan. And on the
Sunday shows, including ours, some of your top aides said, "Oh, it was just a congratulatory
call." But the next day, some of your top aides said, no, in fact, you had been thinking about
this for weeks in advance, to send a message.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT-ELECT: It's all wrong -WALLACE: So, which is it?
TRUMP: No, no. It's all wrong. Not weeks. I took a call. I heard the call was coming probably
an hour or two before. I fully understand the One-China policy, but I don't know why we have
to be bound by a One-China policy unless we make a deal with China having to do with other
things, including trade. I mean, look, we're being hurt very badly by China with devaluation,
with taxing us heavy at the borders when we don't tax them, with building a massive fortress in
the middle of the South China Sea, which they shouldn't be doing, and frankly with not helping
us at all with North Korea. You have North Korea. You have nuclear weapons and China could
solve that problem and they're not helping us at all. So, I don't want China dictating to me and
this was a call put into me. I didn't make the call, and it was a call, very short call saying
congratulations, sir, on the victory. It was a very nice call. Short. And why should some other
nation be able to say I can't take a call. I think it actually would've been very disrespectful, to
be honest with you, not taking it.
WALLACE: You recently intervened with Carrier to save about a thousand jobs -TRUMP: Right.
WALLACE: -- from moving to Mexico and you’ve said at one of your rallies you're asking for a list
of 10 companies that are thinking of outsourcing so you can call them as well. Should the
president of the United States be calling companies? I mean, how would you have felt if Barack
Obama gets on the phone and says Hey Donald, here's how I want you to do business?
TRUMP: I would've been honored. So let me just tell you.
WALLACE: Honored?
TRUMP: I don't have to do it myself. I have great people. We have top, top smart people. But
it's so easy to do and we're going to have to impose a major tax on companies that leave, build
their product and think they're going to sell it right through our border like we're a bunch of
jerks.

 WALLACE: But what about the free market, sir?
TRUMP: That is--that's not free market when they go out and they move and they sell back into
our country.
WALLACE: But that's the free market. They made a decision and it makes -TRUMP: No. That's—that’s the dumb market, okay? That's the dumb market. I'm a big free
trader, but it has to be fair. So what's happened is we have lost over a period of years, short
years, 70,000 factories in this country. Chris, 70,000. I always say to people I think it's a
typo. How could it be so many? Seventy thousand factories. We're being stripped of our
workers. We're being -- I mean, we're being stripped of our jobs. Our good jobs are really
going down, and we've got to stop it. And the only way you're going to stop it, the nice way, is
we're reducing taxes very substantially for companies so they're not going to have to leave
because of taxes. We'll be reducing regulations. Now those are the nice ways of doing it and
everyone loves it and everyone is happy. Business is way down. Also middle class, but way
down, the taxes and regulations. But when a company wants to move to Mexico or another
company, or another country, and they want to build a nice beautiful factory and they want to
sell their product through our border, no tax, and the people that all got fired so we end up
with unemployment and debt, and they end up with jobs and factories and all of the other
things, it's not going to happen that way. And the way you stop it is by imposing a tax. Now,
I've come up with a number of 35 percent. There is no tax if you don't leave. There is no tax at
all. You know, people have said they don't understand really what I'm doing. I read the Wall
Street Journal the other day. Honestly, their editorial board doesn't get it. I don't think they
understand business. I don’t think the Wall Street Journal editorial board, and I know some of
them, they're really nice. I don’t think they understand business. They don't understand what
I'm saying. There's a 35 percent tax, but there is no tax if you don't move. But if you move your
plant or factory and you want to sell back into our country, you fire all your people, there are
going to be consequences for that. There are going to be consequences. And you know what's
going to happen?
WALLACE: What?
TRUMP: I'll tell you. Nobody's going to move. They're not going to move. They're not going to
leave. They're going to stay here.
WALLACE: You're keeping your stake in Celebrity Apprentice. According to the New York Times
you're going to shift operations, but you're going to keep your stake in your real estate
business.
TRUMP: Well, essentially I'm not going to have anything to do with the management.
WALLACE: I know, but isn't that a huge conflict of interest, sir?
TRUMP: When I ran everybody knew that I was a very big owner of real estate all over the
world. I mean, I'm not going to have anything to do with the management of the
company. You know, when you sell real estate that's not like going out and selling a stock. That

 takes a long time. It takes – I have--I'm going to have nothing to with it. And I'll be honest with
you -- I don't care about it anymore. That -- I'm so focused on doing a great job as president. I
don't care if our rent [inaudible] , well , goes up a little bit or down -- I couldn't care less.
WALLACE: But you never -TRUMP: My executives will run it with my children. It's a big company, it's a great
company. But I'm going to have nothing to do with management.
WALLACE: But you hammered Hillary Clinton over the Clinton Foundation and pay -TRUMP: Well, that's different, because -WALLACE: -- and wait -TRUMP:-- she was taking massive amounts of money from foreign countries and other things.
WALLACE:-- and pay to play.
TAPE : Donald Trump/Rally/Austin, TX/August 23
It is impossible to figure out where the Clinton Foundation ends and the State Department
begins. It is now abundantly clear that the Clintons set up a business to profit from public office.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: This is different.
WALLACE: Well, wait a minute. You're going to be making a massive amount of money -TRUMP: No.
WALLACE: -- wait, wait -TRUMP: What – If someone rents -WALLACE: -- foreign -TRUMP: -- a hotel room?
WALLACE: Wait. Foreign countries are already booking events at the Trump Hotel in
D.C. You've got business operations, deals with foreign countries.
TRUMP: Chris, this is all stuff that’s -WALLACE: I mean, isn’t this on -TRUMP: -- done -WALLACE: --isn’t this on steroids --

 TRUMP: No.
WALLACE: They -TRUMP: No.
WALLACE: -- foreign interests trying to curry favor with the president of the United States.
TRUMP: If I were really going to do new deals right now -- I am turning down billions of dollars
of deals. I will tell you, running for president -- the money I spent is peanuts compared to the
money I won't make, and that's okay, because this is so important. What I'm doing is so
important. This is a calling. This is so -- this is a movement. Not just me. It's millions and
millions of people. And you got to see it firsthand. I'm not going to be doing deals at all. Now
that would be -- I don't even know if that's a conflict. I mean, I have the right to do it. You
know, under the law, I have the right to do it. I just don't want to do it. I don't want to do
deals, because I want to focus on this. But, by my not doing deals -- I turned down seven deals
with one big player, great player, last week, because I thought it could be perceived as a conflict
of interest. It was -WALLACE: But your kids are going to be able to do it?
TRUMP: -- probably a billion dollars of deals that I turned down -WALLACE: But if your kids -TRUMP: -- because -WALLACE: -- do it, isn't it going to be the same thing?
TRUMP: No. It's totally different. They're not president. I mean, they're not president. But
they're not going to do it either. Oh, I see what you're getting at. No. They're not making deals
either, for my company.
WALLACE: Right.
TRUMP: They're not making deals. And they're going to run my company -- I have a lot of
property and great stuff. They're going to run it. They're going to run it. Hopefully they're
going to run it properly. I'm sure they're going to run it properly. But I'm not going to do
deals. And I think -- you know, I think that's going to be good.
WALLACE: How many times have you spoken to Barack Obama since you were in the Oval
Office with him? What do you guys talk about? And has he persuaded you on any of his
policies?
TRUMP: So, we disagree on things, but we haven't really discussed things that we disagree
on. I've spoken to him another time. I'm going to be speaking to him today, actually. He has
treated me really well. He's made us feel very welcome.

 WALLACE: But on -- the Iran nuclear deal, relations with Cuba?
TRUMP: Well, I don't want to tell you what we discussed. But -- and some of it I've agreed with
him. A lot -- you know, people don't read about the stuff that you agree on. But there are
things that we disagree on, and probably never going to be able to change that. But we do get
along well. I’m-- I'm surprised at how well we get along, and I think he might say the same
thing. I think you're seeing that from him.
WALLACE: Mr. President-elect -TRUMP: Thank you.
WALLACE: -- thank you for your time.
TRUMP: Thank you very much.
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