Transcript of the Testimony of
Reynaldo Guevara
12/23/2013
Case: Jacques Rivera v. Reynaldo Guevara, et al.
No. 1:12 CV 04428

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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS
EASTERN DIVISION

JACQUES RIVERA,
Plaintiff,
vs.
REYNALDO GUEVARA, STEVE
GAWRYS, DANIEL NOON, JOHN
GUZMAN, JOSEPH FALLON,
JOSEPH SPARKS, PAUL
ZACHARIAS, GILLIAN
MCLAUGHLIN, JOHN LEONARD,
EDWARD MINGEY, RUSSELL
WEINGART, and the ESTATE OF
ROCCO RINALDI, Chicago
Police Detectives; and the
CITY OF CHICAGO,
Defendants.

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No. 12 CV 04428

The VIDEOTAPED deposition of REYNALDO
GUEVARA called for examination pursuant to
Notice and the Rules of Civil Procedure for the
United States District Courts pertaining to the
taking of depositions, taken before Jamye
Giamarusti, a Certified Shorthand Reporter,
within and for the County of Cook and State of
Illinois, at 312 North May Street, Suite 100,
Chicago, Illinois, on December 23, 2013, at the
hour of 10:22 A.M.

Reported by:

Jamye Giamarusti, CSR

License No.:

084-004183

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APPEARANCES:

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LOEVY & LOEVY, by

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MR. ANAND SWAMINATHAN,

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MR. STEVE ART,

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MS. THERESA KLEINHAUSE

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312 North May, Suite 100

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Chicago, Illinois

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(312) 243-5900

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60607

Representing the Plaintiff;

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THE SOTOS LAW FIRM, P.C., by

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MS. ELIZABETH EKL

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550 East Devon, Suite 150

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Itasca, Illinois

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(630) 735-3300

60143

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Representing the Defendant,

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Reynaldo Guevara;

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ROCK FUSCO CONNELLY, LLC, by

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MS. CATHERINE BARBER

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321 North Clark Street, Suite 2200

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Chicago, Illinois

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(312) 494-1000

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60654

Representing the City of Chicago.

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INDEX
WITNESS
EXAMINATION
REYNALDO GUEVARA
By Mr. Swaminathan (Direct)
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EXHIBITS
NUMBER
MARKED FOR
ID
Deposition Exhibit
No. 1
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No. 2
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No. 6
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No. 7
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No. 8
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No. 12
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No. 13
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Do you solemnly swear the

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testimony you're about to give will be the

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truth, the whole truth and nothing but the

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truth?

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THE WITNESS: I do.

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MS. EKL: Could we go ahead and

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introduce the other individuals who are in the

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room as well?

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MR. SWAMINATHAN: I said their names.
MS. EKL: Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't

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catch you say their names. I'm sorry. Go

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ahead.
REYNALDO GUEVARA,

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called as a witness herein, having been first

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duly sworn, was examined and testified as

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DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, please state and spell your name
for the record.
A. Reynaldo Guevara, G-u-e-v-a-r-a.
Q. Are you taking any medications that

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would prevent you from understanding or

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answering my questions today?

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THE VIDEOGRAPHER: This is the video

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A. No.
Q. Are you taking any medications that

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deposition of Reynaldo Guevara taken by Loevy &

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Loevy in the matter of Rivera v. Guevara, et

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would prevent you from providing truthful

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al., Case No. 12 CV 4428 held at Loevy & Loevy,

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testimony today?

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312 North May Street, Chicago, Illinois.

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Today is December 23rd, 2013.

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The time is 10:22.
The court reporter is Jamye
Serritella.

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Q. Okay. Is there anything that would

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questions today?

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Q. Okay. Let me just go over a few

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The videographer is Rick Kosberg.

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Counsel can now introduce

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ground rules. If you need a break at any time,

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themselves, and the court reporter is free to

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please let me know and we'll take a break. I

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administer the oath.

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ask only that you wait for a question and an

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MS. EKL: Elizabeth Ekl, E-k-l, on

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answer to be completed before we take any

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behalf of Defendant, Rey Guevara, and the other

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break; is that fair?

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individually named police officer defendants.

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MS. BARBER: Catherine Barber for
defendant, City of Chicago.

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A. Yes.
Q. Okay. Please answer yes or no to my
questions. No nodding, no gestures; fair?

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A. Yes.

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Swaminathan. I'm here with my colleagues,

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Q. Okay. If there's a question you don't

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Steve Art and Tess Kleinhause, on behalf of

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understand, please let me know and I will

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Jacques Rivera.

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rephrase the question.

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MR. SWAMINATHAN: My name is Anand

THE COURT REPORTER: Raise your right
hand, please, sir.

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If you do answer my question, I'm
going to assume you understand the question; is

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that fair?
A. Yes.
Q. Are you understand that the testimony
you're giving today is under oath?
A. Yes.
Q. And you understand that your testimony
is being given under penalty of perjury?
A. Yes.
Q. Mr. Guevara, isn't it true that you
intentionally framed Jacques Rivera for a
murder that he did not commit?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. As a result of your misconduct and the
misconduct of your fellow Chicago Police
Department officers, Jacques Rivera was
sentenced to 80 years and spent more than 20
years in maximum security prison; isn't that
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And so I understand, you are choosing

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to assert your Fifth Amendment right not to
incriminate yourself; is that correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you understand that whatever
advice is given to you by counsel is advice
that you may choose to follow or choose not to
follow, correct?
MS. EKL: You can answer that one.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you are choosing to follow the
advice of your counsel and not answer my
questions; is that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. In August and September
of 1998, you conspired with other officers to
prosecute plaintiff for the murder of Felix
Valentin, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. So you're refusing to answer my

question based on your Fifth Amendment right
not to incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Okay. Felix Valentin was shot on the
street of Humboldt Park in broad daylight;
isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you refusing to answer the
question based on your Fifth Amendment right
not to incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Just after he was shot and before he
died, Felix Valentin said that members of the
Imperial Gangsters street gang were responsible
for the shooting; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer the
question based on your Fifth Amendment right
not to incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Just after he was shot and before he
died, Valentin said that members of the
Imperial Gangsters street gang were responsible
for the shooting; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer the
question based on your Fifth Amendment right
not to incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.

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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Felix Valentin identified Jose
Rodriguez as the person who had shot him, true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
Fifth Amendment right (sic), I assert my Fifth
Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer my question
based on your Fifth Amendment right not to
incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Felix Valentin identified Felipe
Nieves as the person who had driven the
get-away car; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer the
question based on your Fifth Amendment right

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not to incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were assigned to the case because
police suspected that the shooting was related
to gangs, and you were at that point a gang
crime specialist with the Chicago Police
Department; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation and
form, compound.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer the
question based on your Fifth Amendment right
not to incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were assigned
to the investigation with your partner at the

A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you refusing to answer the

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not to incriminate yourself?

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MS. EKL: Objection, form.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: One question. What
is the objection to form there?
MS. EKL: That it's impossible to

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refuse something that's his constitutional

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right to assert. So you're asking him whether

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constitutional rights. The question doesn't

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and it doesn't make any sense.
You're asking him if he's

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refusing. He is providing an answer, and he's

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also asserting his Fifth Amendment rights, but

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you're asking him whether he's refusing based

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refused, and it's also -- it's confusing.

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time, Steve Gawrys?

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MR. SWAMINATHAN: All right.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were assigned to the investigation
with fellow gang crime specialist Noon, Guzman,
Sparks, Zacharias, and Fallon; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you refusing to answer the
question based on your Fifth Amendment right
not to incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were assigned
to the investigation with the Detective Gillian
McLaughlin and John Leonard?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you refusing to answer my question
based on the Fifth Amendment right not to
incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were assigned
to the investigation with supervisors Russell
Weingart, Edward Mingey and Rocco Rinaldi?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you refusing to answer the
question based on your Fifth Amendment right
not to incriminate yourself?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't is it true that you discussed
all aspects of the investigation with the
Chicago police officers?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague,
foundation.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Strike that. I'll
ask the question again.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you discussed all
aspects of the investigation of the Felix
Valentin murder with Police Officers Gawrys,
Noon, Guzman, Sparks, Zacharias, Fallon,

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McLaughlin, Leonard, Weingart, Mingey and
Rinaldi?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague,
foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer the
question based on your Fifth Amendment right
not to incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that when you started
the investigation that you knew that Jacques
was not involved in the shooting?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer the
question based on your Fifth Amendment rights?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Nonetheless, you decided to frame
Jacques Rivera for the Felix Valentin murder,
didn't you?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment right.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer my question
based on your Fifth Amendment right not to
incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that there was absolutely no
physical evidence indicating that Jacques
Rivera had any connection to the murder of
Felix Valentin; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you refusing to answer my question

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based on your Fifth Amendment right?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In order to frame Jacques Rivera, you
fabricated false evidence; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you refusing to answer my question
based on your Fifth Amendment right not to
incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment right.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You coerced and manipulated Orlando
Lopez, a 12-year old boy at the time of this
investigation, into identifying Jacques Rivera
as the person who had shot Valentin; isn't that
true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you refusing to my answer my

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Back on the record,

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Q. You showed Orlando Lopez a picture of

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Jacques Rivera and told Lopez that Jacques was

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you refusing to answer my question
based on your Fifth Amendment right?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
Could I just have a standing

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Q. Sir, isn't it true that you
manipulated Orlando Lopez into picking Jacques

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Rivera's picture from a photo album that you

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showed him?

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

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Q. The reason you're invoking the Fifth

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Amendment right in response to my question is

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objection so I don't have to object to that

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because answering the question will incriminate

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same question every time in terms of I've now

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you; isn't that true?

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stated what my objection is?

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

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MR. SWAMINATHAN: Yes.

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MS. EKL: Thank you.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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Orlando Lopez into picking Jacques Rivera from

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a line-up?

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MR. SWAMINATHAN: If you want, we can
also enter into a stipulation on, you know, if

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question?

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that essentially he is refusing to answer the

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my Fifth Amendment -- well, I think we have to

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go through it.

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MS. EKL: I have an objection to that
issue, so I can't agree to that.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: I think we have to
go through it.
MR. ART: Can we go off for a second?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Yeah, let's go off
the record for a second.
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Off the record at
10:34.

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off the Record.)

Q. Isn't it true that you manipulated

A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

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Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that Orlando Lopez told
you that Jacques Rivera was not the person who
had shot Felix Valentin on multiple occasions?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that Jacques Rivera told
you that Detective Gillian McLaughlin -- sorry.
Strike that.
Isn't it true that he told you
that Detective Gillian McLaughlin -- sorry.
Strike that.
Isn't it true that Orlando Lopez

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told that you Detective Gillian McLaughlin -strike that.
Isn't it true that Orlando Lopez
told you and Detective Gillian McLaughlin that
Jacques Rivera was innocent before you
conducted the second line-up -- the second live
in-person line-up in this case?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you coerced Orlando
Lopez to identify Jacques Rivera in the second
line-up even though he had just told you that
Jacques Rivera was not the perpetrator?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking your
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you and your fellow
Chicago police officers concealed the fact that
Lopez had told you that Jacques was not guilty
during the entire investigation and during
Jacques' wrongful incarceration?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because asserting the Fifth Amendment will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true the reason you're
invoking the Fifth Amendment in response to my
question is because answering the question will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you concealed that
you conducted an initial in-person line-up just
days after Felix Valentin was shot?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you concealed that
you conducted an in-person line-up just days
after Felix Valentin had been shot and Lopez
had viewed that line-up and selected Jacques
Rivera?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you concealed that
you conducted an initial in-person line-up just
days after Valentin was shot and that Lopez had
viewed that line-up and did not select Jacques
Rivera?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is it the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that the fabricated
evidence was the only evidence that connected
Jacques Rivera to the shooting of Felix
Valentin?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Strike that.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that the evidence you
fabricated was the only evidence that connected

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Jacques Rivera to the shooting of Felix
Valentin?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You manipulated Orlando Lopez to
testify falsely against Jacques Rivera at
Jacques' criminal trial; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. The reason you're invoking the Fifth
Amendment in response to my question is because
answering the question will incriminate you; is
that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

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Q. You committed perjury by testifying
falsely at Jacques Rivera's criminal trial;
isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. From August 27th, 1988 to the present
day, you've concealed your misconduct and the
misconduct of your fellow Chicago police
officers from state prosecutors, from Jacques
Rivera and from Jacques Rivera's attorney;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question

because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Your misconduct and the misconduct of
your fellow Chicago police officers deprived
Jacques Rivera of more than half of his life;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you knew in 1998
and know today that Jacques Rivera had nothing
to do with the murder of Felix Valentin?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, isn't it true that you framed
Jacques Rivera pursuant to an official policy
of practice whereby the Chicago Police
Department puts dozens of innocent individuals
in prison for crimes they did not commit?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, isn't it true that you framed
Jacques Rivera pursuant to an official policy
or practice whereby members of the Chicago
Police Department manipulated and coerced
eyewitnesses to obtain false photo and

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in-person identifications?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment right.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You framed Jacques Rivera pursuant to
an official policy or practice whereby members
of the Chicago Police Department manipulated or
coerced witness testimony; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You framed Jacques Rivera pursuant to
an official policy or practice whereby members
of the Chicago Police Department manipulated --

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strike that.
You framed Jacques Rivera
pursuant to an official policy or practice
whereby members of the Chicago Police
Department fabricated false evidence including
false police reports; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you framed Jacques
Rivera pursuant to an official policy or
practice whereby members of the Chicago Police
Department kept clandestine files that
contained exculpatory evidence but that would
never be shared with criminal defendants or
state prosecutors?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.

BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question would
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you framed Jacques
Rivera pursuant to an official policy or
practice whereby members of the Chicago Police
Department destroyed evidence suggesting that
suspects and criminal defendants were, in fact,
not guilty?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you framed Jacques

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Rivera pursuant to an official policy or
practice whereby members of the Chicago Police
Department concealed material, exculpatory
evidence from suspects, criminal defendants,
their lawyers, and state prosecutors including
materials that can be used to impeach state
witnesses?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You framed Jacques Rivera pursuant to
an official policy or practice whereby members
of the Chicago Police Department lied in
criminal trials about investigations they have
been involved in; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you framed Jacques
Rivera pursuant to an official policy or
practice whereby members of the Chicago Police
Department lied and covered up misconduct
committed by their colleagues pursuant to a
code of silence?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment right.

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Q. You framed Jacques Rivera pursuant to
an official policy or practice whereby members
of the Chicago Police Department were never
disciplined for this type of misconduct
creating an environment of lawlessness?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you used
unconstitutionally coercive tactics, including
excessive force, you manipulated eyewitnesses
and eyewitness identifications and you framed
innocent individuals for crimes they did not
commit more than three dozen times during the
course of your employment with the Chicago
Police Department?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you engaged in
misconduct repeatedly because you knew you
would never be disciplined for this conduct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you were never
disciplined for the extreme majority of
misconduct you committed?

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you received a
merit promotion to detective despite your
misconduct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true your misconduct in the
Valentin investigation violated Jacques
Rivera's constitutional right to due process?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, and calls for a legal
conclusion.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you violated Jacques
Rivera's constitutional right to due process as
part of a conspiracy with Police Officers
Gawrys Noon, Guzman, Sparks, Zacharias, Fallon,
McLaughlin, Leonard, Weingart, Mingey and
Rinaldi?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the assert my attorney -MS. EKL: You want to start over?
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your misconduct in the
Valentin investigation violated Jacques
Rivera's constitutional rights protected by the
Fourth Amendment?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?

A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you violated Jacques
Rivera's constitutional rights protected by the
Fourth Amendment as part of a conspiracy with
Gawrys, Noon, Guzman, Sparks, Zacharias,
Fallon, McLaughlin, Leonard, Weingart, Mingey
and Rinaldi?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true your misconduct in the
Valentin investigation violated Jacques
Rivera's constitutional rights protected by the
Fifth Amendment?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes

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facts not in evidence, and calls for a legal
conclusion.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You violated Jacques Rivera's
constitutional rights protected by the Fifth
Amendment as part of a conspiracy with Police
Officers Gawrys, Noon, Guzman, Sparks,
Zacharias, Fallon, McLaughlin, Leonard,
Weingart, Mingey and Rinaldi; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question

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because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true your misconduct in the
Valentin investigation violated Jacques
Rivera's constitutional rights protected by the
14th Amendment?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, calls for a legal
conclusion.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You violated Jacques Rivera's
constitutional rights protected by the 14th
Amendment as part of a conspiracy with Police
Officers Gawrys, Noon, Guzman, Sparks,

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Zacharias, Fallon, McLaughlin, Leonard,
Weingart, Mingey and Rinaldi; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You conspired with Police Officers
Gawrys, Noon, Guzman, Sparks, Zacharias,
Fallon, McLaughlin, Leonard, Weingart, Mingey
and Rinaldi in reaching agreement to frame
Jacques Rivera before Jacques Rivera was ever
arrested or charged with the Valentin murder;
isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question

because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you knew that your
fellow officers were committing acts of
misconduct and violating Jacques Rivera's
constitutional rights during the Valentin
investigation, yet you did not nothing to stop
that conduct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you caused Jacques
Rivera to be prosecuted for murder and made
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Jacques' wrongful conviction despite knowing
there was no probable cause to suspect Jacques
of being involved in the Valentin shooting?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, calls for a
legal conclusion.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question would
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, you understand that you alone and
not your lawyers control your Fifth Amendment
rights?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, why have you asserted your Fifth
Amendment right not to incriminate yourself in
this deposition?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

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Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You intend to assert the Fifth as to
all questions asked at this deposition?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. EKL: Can I just confer with him
for a -- well, go ahead and ask another
question and then I need to confer.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. EKL: You know actually, if you
ask the question more specifically I may allow
him to answer it, but go ahead. Sorry.
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Amendment as to all questions asked to you
about the case of Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: You can answer that.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Okay. Do you intend to assert the
Fifth Amendment as to all questions asked about
your employment with the Chicago Police
Department?
A. Yes.
Q. Are there any subjects that you can
identify as you sit here today on which you are
willing to give binding testimony?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. In order to assert your Fifth
Amendment right not to incriminate yourself,

asked.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Okay.
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Q. Sir, are there subjects that you can
identify as you sit here today in which you are
willing to give binding testimony?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, overly
broad.
THE WITNESS: I'm willing to answer
any question that's not related with any
procedures or employment in the police
department.
MS. EKL: And that are not subject to
other objections or privileges.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Have you had any discussions about the
case of Jacques Rivera or the framing of
Jacques Rivera since you ended your employment
with the Chicago Police Department?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, what crime do you fear that you
might be prosecuted for in connection with your
testimony here today?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you fear prosecution by state
authorities or federal authorities?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you fear prosecution for perjury?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you fear prosecution for lies that
you've told in the past under oath?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the

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Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you fear prosecution of perjury for
lies you intend to tell in this case under
oath?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you fear prosecution for
obstruction of justice?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?

A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you fear prosecution for RICO
violations or Hobbs Act violations?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you fear prosecution for bribery?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you fear prosecution for fraud,
including mail or wire fraud?
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you fear prosecution for assault or
battery?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you fear prosecution for violation
of federal civil rights criminal laws?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate

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you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, when in this litigation did you
determine that you would assert your Fifth
Amendment right not to incriminate yourself?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Was your first answer to Mr. Rivera's
complaint false?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

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Q. Were your first answers to
Mr. Rivera's interrogatories false?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you provide amended answers as
soon as you decided to assert your Fifth
Amendment right not to incriminate yourself?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Why did you determine that you should
assert your Fifth Amendment right not to
incriminate yourself in this case?

A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that the reason you're
invoking the Fifth Amendment is because you
committed the constitutional violations that
Mr. Rivera alleges in his complaint?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment right.
Q. Are you asserting your Fifth Amendment
rights in order to deprive Mr. Rivera of
discovery in this case?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You understand by that by asserting
your Fifth Amendment rights you are depriving
Mr. Rivera of discovery in this case?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to assert your Fifth
Amendment right not to incriminate yourself in
this case if you're called upon to testify at
trial?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. Did you know that Jacques Rivera was
granted a post-conviction evidentiary hearing?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Were you asked to testify at Jacques
Rivera's post-conviction evidentiary hearing?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're refusing to
answer my question because answering the
question will incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sorry, is the reason you're invoking
the Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you refuse to testify at Jacques
Rivera's post-conviction evidentiary hearing?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you refuse to testify because you
were going to assert your Fifth Amendment right
not to testify if called?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate

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MS. EKL: Objection, asked and
answered.
Go ahead.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Just for the record,
I think we are going to have an objection, and

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we may move at some point in the case, on the
issue of, you know, if there's some suggestion
that he is relying on the advice of counsel,
and as he's reading the phrase, you know, he's
suggesting that he is, if he's refusing to
answer questions on that subject, we may move
to bar any suggestion that he has been relying
on the advice of counsel. But that's something
that we're going to have to deal with.
MS. EKL: Exactly.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Okay.
MS. EKL: I corresponded with
Mr. Loevy on this issue.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Okay.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, what lawyer did you speak to
about asserting your Fifth Amendment right not
to incriminate yourself?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're refusing -- is
the reason you're revoking the Fifth Amendment
in response to my question because answering
the question will incriminate you?

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MS. EKL: Just don't answer that
question based on the attorney/client
privilege.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, are you going to follow your
attorney's instruction not to answer that
question based on the attorney/client
privilege?
A. Yes.
Q. When did you speak with attorneys for
the Sotos Law Firm regarding asserting the
Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate
yourself?
MS. EKL: You can answer that
question, if you can.
THE WITNESS: I can't give you an
answer. A week or so, I don't know. I don't
remember.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You don't remember?
A. Don't remember.
Q. Can you speak up a little bit because
it sounds a little bit like you're mumbling.
A. I spoken with them. I don't remember.

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you speak with any members of the
Sotos Law Firm about asserting your Fifth
Amendment right not to incriminate yourself?
A. On the advice of my attorney -MS. EKL: You know, actually, you can
answer that particular question.
THE WITNESS: Yes. Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you speak to any attorneys from
the Law Firm of Rock Fusco about asserting your
Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate
yourself?
MS. EKL: You can answer that question
as well.
THE WITNESS: No.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. What advice were you given by members
of the Sotos Law Firm?
MS. EKL: I would object based on
attorney/client privilege, and I instruct you
not to answer that question.
THE WITNESS: On the --

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MS. EKL: You can answer that.
THE WITNESS: No.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you speak with any attorneys from
the law firm Sidley Austin?
A. No.
Q. Did you speak with any attorney from
the Cook County State Attorney's Office?
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foundation and form. Are you saying generally,
ever, or in regard to asserting his Fifth
Amendment rights, just so that your question is
clear?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: I'll re-ask the
question.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you speak with any attorneys for
the Cook County State Attorney's Office about
asserting your Fifth Amendment right not to
incriminate yourself?
MS. EKL: I'm sorry. Again,
objection, foundation. Just to be clear, are
you talking about his assertion of his Fifth
Amendment rights here today or at any point in
time ever?
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do you understand my question, sir?
A. Rephrase it. Go ahead.
Q. Sir, did you speak with any attorneys
from the Cook County State Attorney's Office
about asserting your Fifth Amendment rights not
to incriminate yourself in this or in any other
case?

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A. No.
Q. Did you speak with any attorneys
associated with the Paternal Order of Police
about asserting your Fifth Amendment rights in
this or any other case?
A. No.
Q. What other attorneys have you -- have
represented you in the past two years?
MS. EKL: I would object as to the
extent it assumes facts not in evidence, but -THE WITNESS: Past two years, no one.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The only attorneys you've had have
been attorneys from the Sotos Law Firm?
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. Were you told by the attorneys
for the Sotos Law Firm to assert the Fifth
Amendment?
MS. EKL: Objection, calls for
attorney/client communications, privilege, and
I instruct you not to answer.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you going to accept your
attorney's advice and refuse to answer that

question?
A. Yes.
Q. You're not asserting an advice of
counsel defense in this case, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Okay.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: I think as we've
discussed, again, we believe that any reliance
on the advice of counsel means that that issue
is now open, there should be discovery on that
issue. So, again, that's going to be an issue
that I think, you know -MS. EKL: We disagree, and if you want
to file an appropriate motion, we'll respond
appropriately.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Okay.

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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And, sir, just be aware, please be
advised that if you refuse to answer questions
about your advice of counsel defense, we will
move to bar you from later claiming that you're
relying upon the advice of counsel as a defense
to liability.
MS. EKL: And I'd object, assumes
facts not in evidence. There has been no
testimony that he is, in fact, relying upon any
advice of counsel defense.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, what lawyer did you receive the
advice from that forms the basis of your advice
of counsel defense to the extent you have one?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did any attorney give you advice about

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whether your conduct in connection with Jacques
Rivera or the Valentin investigation violated a
constitution?
MS. EKL: Objection, calls for a
question that will invade the attorney/client
privilege and I would instruct my client not to
answer.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you going to accept your
attorney's advice and refuse to answer my
question?
A. Yes.
Q. Did any attorney give you advice about
whether your conduct in connection with the
Jacques Rivera or the Valentin investigation
violated state law?
MS. EKL: Objection, calls for an
attorney/client privileged communication, and I
would instruct you not to answer.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you going to follow your
attorney's instruction and refuse to answer my
question?
A. Yes.

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Q. Did any attorney give you advice about
asserting your Fifth Amendment rights in this
case?
MS. EKL: Objection, attorney/client
privilege and instructing you not to answer.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer my question
based on your attorney's advice?
A. Yes.
Q. Did any lawyer give you any advice at
all during the course of the Valentin
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, attorney/client
privilege, and I'm instructing you not to
answer.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you going to follow your
attorney's advice not to answer my question?
A. Yes.
Q. Did any lawyer give you any advice at
all relating to any of your interactions with
Jacques Rivera prior to this lawsuit?
MS. EKL: Objection, calls for

attorney/client privilege communication, and
I'm instructing you not to answer.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you going to follow your
attorney's instruction and refuse to answer my
question?
A. Yes.
Q. When you testified at Jacques Rivera's
criminal trial, did any lawyer there give you
any advice about whether to testify or about
how to testify?
MS. EKL: Objection to the extent that
it calls for attorney/client communications. I
would instruct you not to answer. To the
extent that it doesn't call for an
attorney/client communication, you can answer.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did any lawyer give you any advice -strike that.
To the extent that you're not
answering my question in part, are you refusing
to answer the question based on the instruction

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of your counsel?
A. Yes.
Q. And to the extent you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment, is the reason you're invoking
the Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did any lawyer give you any advice
about whether to testify during Jacques
Rivera's post-conviction proceedings?
MS. EKL: I object to the extent that
it calls for any attorney/client communication
and instruct you not to answer. To the extent
that it's asking about communication with
attorneys who were not representing you, you
may answer.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. To the extent you're refusing to
answer the question, are you doing so on the
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A. Yes.
Q. And to the extent you're invoking -MS. EKL: I'm sorry. I know this is
belated. I'm objecting to the use of the word
refuse, based on form.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Understood.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. To the extent you are invoking the
Fifth Amendment, is the reason you're invoking
the Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you received any other advice at
any point in time from any attorney or legal
authority about the investigation of the
Valentin shooting or Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, based on
attorney/client privilege, and I'm instructing
you not to answer.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you going to follow that
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A. Yes.
Q. Did you meet with counsel in
preparation for today's deposition?
MS. EKL: You can answer that.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. On how many occasions?
A. Today.
Q. Did you meet with counsel any time
other than today in preparation for today's
deposition?
A. Yes.
Q. On how many other times -- strike
that.
How many other times?
A. One other time probably.
Q. How long ago was that?
A. I don't remember.
Q. Was it one week ago, one month ago,
one year ago, can you give me an approximation?
A. No, I can't.
Q. The meeting that you had with counsel
today, where did that take place?
A. At a restaurant.

Q. You say at a restaurant?
A. Uh-huh.
MS. EKL: You have to answer yes or
no.
THE WITNESS: Yes, yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. That was this morning?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you discuss your -- did you
discuss -- strike that.
Were there anyone other than
lawyers present at that meeting?
A. No.
Q. What lawyers were present at that
meeting?
A. Just my attorney Elizabeth Ekl and
myself.
Q. Okay. No one else?
A. No one else.
Q. Okay. Anyone attend that meeting by
phone?
A. No.
Q. How long did that meeting last?
A. Ten minutes.

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Q. Did you review any documents in that
meeting this morning in preparation for today's
deposition?
A. No.
Q. Did you review any prior testimony or
discuss any prior testimony in that meeting
this morning?
A. No.
Q. In your prior meeting in preparation
for today's deposition, did you review any
documents?
A. Don't think so, no.
Q. Okay. Well, did you discuss any
documents or any prior testimony in that prior
meeting?
MS. EKL: Objection, it calls for
attorney/client communication. I instruct you
not to answer.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer that
question based on the instruction of your
counsel?
A. Yes.
Q. How many times have you met with

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counsel with regard to the Jacques Rivera case
at all, regardless of whether it's for purposes
of deposition preparation or otherwise?
A. One time probably. I don't remember.
Q. So there was the meeting this morning
with your client, there was another meeting in
preparation for today's deposition, are you
saying there was one other time in which you
met with attorneys?
A. No, that was it.
Q. Tell me all the times that you've met
with your attorneys with regard to this lawsuit
since it was filed.
MS. EKL: Objection, form. Are you
asking him how many times?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: I'll rephrase.
MS. EKL: Okay.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. How many times have you met with
counsel regarding Jacques Rivera's case since
this lawsuit was filed?
A. Once or twice. That's it.
Q. Was one of those times today?
A. Yes.

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Q. And was the other time the other
instance that you've told me about?
A. Yes.
Q. And neither of those instances did you
review any documents; is that correct?
A. Correct.
Q. And neither of those instances did you
discuss prior testimony; is that correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, calls for
attorney/client communication. I would
instruct you not to answer that question.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you refusing to answer my question
based on the instruction of counsel?
A. Yes.
Q. Have you ever discussed facts or
Jacques Rivera's lawsuit with lawyers?
MS. EKL: Objection, calls for
attorney/client communication. I would
instruct you not to answer.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Have you ever -- strike that. That's
a poor question.
Have you discussed the facts of

Jacques Rivera's lawsuit with any lawyers?
MS. EKL: Objection to the extent that
it calls for any attorney/client communication,
regarding any communications with your lawyers.
I would instruct you not to answer.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you discussed the facts of
Jacques Rivera's lawsuit with any current or
former Chicago police officers?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you reviewed your testimony given
in the criminal trial, People of the State of
Illinois versus Jacques Rivera?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you review your testimony given in
the civil trial of Leshurn Hunt?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you review your testimony given at
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versus Reynaldo Guevara, et al.?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you review your testimony given at
trial in the civil case Juan Johnson versus
Reynaldo Guevara?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you review your testimony given at
deposition during the civil case Juan Johnson
versus Reynaldo Guevara?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you find your testimony in the
criminal trial People of the State of Illinois
versus Jacques Rivera to be truthful and
accurate?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you find your testimony in the
civil trial of Leshurn Hunt to be truthful and
accurate?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Is the reason you're asserting the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you find your testimony given at
deposition or at trial during the civil case
Juan Johnson versus Reynaldo Guevara, et al. to
be truthful and accurate?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you reviewed any materials at all
in preparation for today's deposition?
MS. EKL: Objection, asked and

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answered.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you discuss this case with Police
Officer Gawrys?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you spoken with Officer Gawrys
about this case since the lawsuit was filed?

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Since this lawsuit was filed, have you
met with any current or former Chicago police
officers to discuss this case?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you -- since this lawsuit was
filed, have you spoken with any current or
former Chicago police officers about invoking
the Fifth Amendment?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Since this lawsuit was filed, have you
spoken with anyone about this case?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Since this lawsuit was filed, have you
spoken with Gillian McLaughlin, John Leonard
Daniel Noon, John Guzman, Joseph Fallon, Joseph
Sparks, Paul Zacharias, Edward Mingey, Russell
Weingart or Rocco Rinaldi regarding this case?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you discuss this case with Gillian
McLaughlin?
A. On the advice -MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you discuss this case with John
Leonard?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.

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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you discussed this case with
Daniel Noon since this lawsuit was filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you discussed this case with John
Guzman since this lawsuit was filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate

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you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you discussed this case with
Joseph Fallon since this lawsuit was filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you discuss this case with Joseph
Sparks since this lawsuit was filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you discuss this case with Paul

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Zacharias since this lawsuit was filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you discuss this case with Edward
Mingey since this lawsuit was filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you discuss this case with Russell
Weingart since this lawsuit was filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the

Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you discuss this case with Russell
Weingart since this lawsuit was filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You discuss this case with Rocco
Rinaldi since this case was filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: I apologize, I
didn't ask the question properly with regard to
McLaughlin and Leonard so I'm just going to ask
those two again.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you discuss this case with Gillian
McLaughlin prior to this lawsuit being filed -strike that.
Did you discuss this case with
Gillian McLaughlin since this lawsuit was
filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you discuss this case with John
Leonard since this lawsuit was filed?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you discuss this case with any
family members or significant others since this
lawsuit was filed?
MS. EKL: Objection, just to the
extent it invades the marital privilege, but
otherwise you can answer.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, are you married?
A. Yes.
Q. And what's your wife's name?
MS. EKL: You can answer your wife's
name.
THE WITNESS: Magneset Guevara.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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A. M-a-g-n-e-s-e-t.
Q. How long have you been married to
Magneset Guevara?
A. We been married since 1994, '93, '92.
Somewhere around there.
Q. Do you live together?
A. Oh, yes.
Q. How long have you lived together?
A. Longer than that, about 25 years.
Q. Where do you live?
MS. EKL: I object to that based on
the fact that you're asking for confidential
information and I believe it's subject to the
protective order.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: We'll keep this
information subject -MS. EKL: I also know that you -MR. SWAMINATHAN: -- to the protective
order.
MS. EKL: Well, I also know that you
are aware of where he lives because
Mr. Ainsworth showed up at my client's door,
and I understand that that was a mistake, but
you already have that information. I do not

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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Does Ms. Guevara live in the City of
Chicago?
MS. EKL: If you know, you can answer
that.
THE WITNESS: She doesn't live in the
City of Chicago.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do you stay in touch with Ms. Gloria
Guevara?
A. Yeah, we communicate.
Q. Do you have any children?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. How many children do you have?
A. About 15.
Q. How many children do you have with
Magneset Guevara?
A. Magneset Guevara.
Q. How many children do you have with
Magneset Guevara?
A. One.
Q. Does that child live with you?
A. No.
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Guevara?
A. No.
Q. Do you have any children with Gloria
Guevara?
A. Yes.
Q. How many children do you have with
Gloria Guevara?
MS. EKL: The number, yes.
THE WITNESS: Five.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do any of them live with you?
A. No.
Q. Do you have any children living with
you currently?
A. No.
Q. You said earlier you made reference to
15 children. Is that you have 15 or you have
about 15 children?
A. About 15.
Q. Okay. Can you tell me exactly how
many you have? Are you able to figure that
out?
A. No.
Q. Approximately 15 is the best you can

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do?
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. Have you ever been divorced or
separated from Magneset Guevara?
A. No.
Q. Have you always lived together in the
period from 1994 to the present?
A. Before that.
Q. Prior -- so for at least 20 -- for
approximately 25 years, you've lived with
Magneset Guevara without any periods of
separation; is that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. You've told me about six of
your children, you're unable to give me an
exact number of children; why is that?
A. Because -THE WITNESS: You want me to answer
that?
MS. EKL: Well, I'm going to object at
this point in time. I feel it's just
harassing. This is just personal information
regarding my client. He's not going to be
attempting to testify about the mothers of each

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other than Magneset Guevara and Gloria Guevara?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Other than Magneset Guevara and Gloria
Guevara, how many other women do you have
children with?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you provide financial support for
any of your children?
MS. EKL: At this point in time, we
have not decided whether or not he's going to
argue inability to pay. So if he's going to
use that as a defense, then we can revisit
whether or not you can ask that question.
But I think that it falls under
his finances, and at this point in time, I
would ask that we reserve all those questions
until that decision has been made, and I'm
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MR. SWAMINATHAN: Understood.

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Q. Sir, I have a couple of questions
about your appearance in 1988.
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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You had an afro in August 1988; is
that correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You were a plain clothes officer in
August 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate

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from 1988 -- strike that.
Do you have any photos of
yourself from 1988 or 1989?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment to my question because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You had a mustache in August 1988,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Is the reason you're invoking the
Fifth Amendment in response to my question
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You wore glasses in August of 1988,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
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answered. You can answer that, though.
THE WITNESS: No.
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information. I would instruct my client not to
answer that question regarding his -- any
dating relationships that he had. Well, strike
that.
I'm going to make the objection
and go ahead and allow him to answer that.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth Amendment
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. In 1988, the mother of the Maniac
Latin Disciple you were dating lived near
Rockwell and Potomac; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that the son of your
girlfriend would tell you rival gang members
that you could go after?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You were biased against Latin Kings at
that time in 1988, weren't you?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were going after Latin Kings
during that time in 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth in response
to those two questions because answering the
question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You were biased against Spanish Cobras
at that time in 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In fact, you were going after Spanish
Cobras at that time in 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth Amendment
in response to those two questions because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you knew Jacques
Rivera for, quote, quite a while prior to
arrest, unquote?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you knew that
Jacques Rivera worked at the recreational
center in Humboldt Park?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
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Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you would come into
the rec center and lift weights at the rec
center?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that when you went to
the rec center, you would ask questions about
people in the neighborhood?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence and foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because

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answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You had conversations with Jacques
Rivera prior to the Felix Valentin shooting
about things going on in the neighborhood;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You knew that Jacques Rivera was not
involved with gangs; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You and others in the Chicago Police
Department were looking for a reason to put
Jacques Rivera in prison; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. In 1988, you worked the nightshift
during the Valentin homicide investigation;
isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You worked five days per week; isn't
that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You were a gang crime specialist based
in the 25th District; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You worked with gang crime specialists
throughout the investigation of the Felix
Valentin murder; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because

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answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: For purposes of
these questions when I refer to "the
investigation," I'm talking about the
investigation of the Felix Valentin murder.
MS. EKL: I appreciate that.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You worked with officers out of the
14th District throughout the investigation;
isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You worked with officers out of the
25th District throughout the investigation;
isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You worked with your partner, Steve

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Gawrys, throughout the investigation; isn't
that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you worked with
Detective Gillian McLaughlin throughout the
investigation?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You worked with Detective John Leonard
throughout the investigation; isn't is that
true?

A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.

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investigation; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.

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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.

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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.

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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, you learned on August 27th, 1988
that Felix Valentin had been shot, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, you were not among the first
officers to respond to the call, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. The first officers who responded to
that call -- strike that.
The first officers who responded
to the call wrote a general offense report in
the case; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.

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Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You've reviewed the report done by the
first officers to respond to the call on
August 27th, 1988 -- strike that.
On August 27th, 1988, you've
reviewed the report that was done by the first
officers to respond to the call; isn't that
true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You learned upon reviewing that report
on August 27th, 1988 that the first responding
officers talked to Israel and Felix Valentin
and learned that the person who had shot Felix
Valentin was a 16 to 18-year old?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that the first
responding officers notified you and other gang
crime officers of the incident?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the an advice of my attorney, I
assert my Fifth Amendment constitutional
rights.
Q. Isn't it true the first responding
officers notified the 14th District of the
incident?

MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true the first responding
officers notified detectives of the incident?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you were involved with
the investigation from the very first day?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.

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Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. On August 27th, 1988 you were told
that the shooting occurred at 3:45 in the
afternoon; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You learned of the details of the
shooting from information that was put in the
investigator file that day and in the days that
followed; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment

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constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Did you go to the crime scene on the
first day?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Strike that.
Did you go to the crime scene on
August 27th, 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, isn't it true that your first
contact with Orlando Lopez was on August 29th,
1988.
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You did not interact with Orlando
Lopez on the date that Valentin was shot, did
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You did not interact with Orlando
Lopez on the day after Valentin was shot;
that's August 30th, 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Strike that.
You did not interact with or -MS. EKL: I would ask that you don't
strike that but you can re-ask it.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not interact with Orlando
Lopez on the day after Valentin was shot,
that's August 28th, 1988?

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numbers?
No. 1.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition
Exhibit No. 1 was marked
for identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, I'm handing you the document
marked Exhibit No. 1, it's Bates stamp CPD75
through 76.
Have you ever seen this document
before?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You did not interact with Orlando
Lopez on August 29th, 1988, did you?

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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true your first interaction

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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Do you intend to assert your Fifth

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Is the reason that you intend to

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answering the questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true on August 29th, 1988 you
learned that Lopez was the sole eyewitness in
the shooting?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true on August 29th, 1988 you
also learned that Lopez was 12 years old?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you knew that any
interaction with Lopez had to be done with his
parents present?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you never interacted
with Lopez with his parents present?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you knew that Lopez was
vulnerable to suggestion?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you knew that Lopez
was frightened by the shooting?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you took advantage of Lopez's fear
about the shooting; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You knew that Lopez was not a reliable
witness because of his age; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that throughout the
investigation of Felix Valentin's murder you
were the primary officer in contact with
Orlando Lopez?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You knew starting on August 29th,

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August 30th and August 31st, 1988 to get
Orlando to participate in a line-up?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You spoke by phone with Orlando's mom
on August 30th, 1988; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You spoke by phone with Orlando's mom
on August 31st, 1988; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering these questions about four phone
calls with Orlando's mom will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You knew that Orlando's sister,
Marilyn, was dating Israel Valentin, the
brother of the victim, didn't you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You knew that Orlando went to school
at Mozart Elementary School; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You called -- sorry, strike that.
You had a telephone number where
you could reach Orlando's mom; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering that question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You called that number on both
August 30th and August 31st, 1988 -- strike

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Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Orlando Lopez came to your attention
because the Chicago Police Department suspected
that the shooting was gang related and gang
crime officers were going to show Lopez gang
books?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, before you ever showed Orlando
Lopez a gang book you already decided that
Jacques Rivera would be your suspect in this
case, didn't you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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MR. SWAMINATHAN: Strike that
because -- I can't strike that, but I'm going
to ask the question again because I didn't ask
it properly.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, before you ever showed Lopez a
gang book, you had already decided that Jacques
Rivera would be your suspect in the Felix
Valentin murder; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. On August 27th, 1988, before you met
with Lopez, you decided that you were going to
pin the shooting on Jacques Rivera; isn't that
true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.

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Q. On August -- are you pleading the
Fifth because answering the question will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. On August 27th, 1988, you had
requested a rap sheet for Jacques Rivera
because he was, according to you, a suspect in
the Valentin shooting; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition
Exhibit No. 2 was marked
for identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. I'm handing you a document that's been
marked as Exhibit 2, and it's Bates stamped CPD
12.
Sir, have you seen this document
before?

A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Can you tell me what this document is?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, do you intend to plead the Fifth
with regard to any questions I ask you
regarding Plaintiff's Exhibit 2?
A. Yes.
Q. And are you pleading the Fifth because
answering any questions regarding this document
will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, isn't it true that you requested
this rap sheet on August 27th, 1988?

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And the rap sheet that you were
looking at, Plaintiff's Exhibit 2, was given to
you on August 27th, 1988; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. The date on the rap sheet reflects
that it was produced to you on your request on
August 27th, 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
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Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Officer Gawrys was present when you
requested this rap sheet on August 27th, 1988;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were present when Gawrys requested
this rap sheet on August 27th, 1988; isn't that
true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering either of those two questions will

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incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You were present when Detective
Gillian McLaughlin requested this rap sheet on
August 27th, 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence. And I'm going to object
to these questions that they're not being asked
in good faith since it's the same question
being asked in relation to each person.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were present when Detective John
Leonard requested this rap sheet on
August 27th, 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Who requested the rap sheet on
August 27th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You were present when Daniel Noon
requested the rap sheet on August 27th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were present when Supervisor

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August 27th, 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were present when Supervisor
Russell Weingart requested this rap sheet on
August 27th, 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were present when your Supervisor
Rocco Rinaldi requested this rap sheet on
August 27th, 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, and I have an objection
to the questions being asked repeatedly in
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THE WITNESS: On the advice -MS. EKL: -- based on the fact that
it's not being asked in good faith.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to any questions about who requested this rap
sheet on August 27th, 1988 because answering
the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. On August 27th, 1988, you added the
rap sheet to the investigative file; isn't that
true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you were present
when Detective Gillian McLaughlin placed this
rap sheet in the investigative file on
August 27th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were present when
Detective John Leonard placed this rap sheet in
the investigative file on August 27th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not evidence, and I object that it's not
being asked in good faith to the extent this
question is repeatedly asked about each
individual officer.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Isn't it true you were present when
Steve Gawrys placed this rap sheet in the
investigative file on August 27th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to any questions about who placed this rap
sheet in the investigative file on August 27th,
1988 because answering the question will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that on August 27th,
1988 you also received a mugshot of Jacques
Rivera that had been taken before the Valentin
investigation began?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because

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answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition
Exhibit No. 3 was marked
for identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. I handed you a document marked
Plaintiff's Exhibit 3 and it's Bates stamped
CPD48 and CPD49.
Sir, are you familiar with this
document?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Can you tell me what this document is?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you refusing to answer any
questions about the document handed to you as
Plaintiff's Exhibit 3?
MS. EKL: You can answer.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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questions about Plaintiff's Exhibit 3 -- strike
that.
Are you pleading the Fifth with
regard to any questions about Plaintiff's
Exhibit 3 because answering the question will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, you got this mugshot on
August 27th, 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And Gawrys was present when you got
this mugshot on August 27th, 1988; isn't that
true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, Officer McLaughlin was present
when you got this mugshot on August 27th, 1988;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, and I object based on
lack of good faith to the extent that the same
question is being asked in relation to each
officer.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And Officer Leonard was present when
you got this mugshot on August 27th, 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And Officer Mingey was present when
you got this mugshot on August 27th, 1988;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were present
when Gawrys -- strike that. I already asked
that one.
Isn't it true -- strike that.
Are you pleading the Fifth with
regard to any questions about who was present
when you got this mugshot on August 27th, 1988
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, isn't it true you were present
when Detective Gillian McLaughlin got this
mugshot on August 27th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were present when
Detective John Leonard got this mugshot on
August 27th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were present when
Supervisor Edward Mingey got this mugshot
August 27th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth regarding
any questions about whether you were present
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mugshot on August 27th, 1988 because answering
the question will incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you got this mugshot
before you ever met with Orlando Lopez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering this question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You got this mugshot before you ever
met with Felix Valentin; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You got this photo so that you can
show potential witnesses this photo of Jacques
Rivera; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You did this so that you could suggest
to witnesses that Jacques Rivera was -- strike
that.

You got this mugshot so that you
could suggest to witnesses that Jacques Rivera
was the person who had shot Felix Valentin;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, asked and
answered, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You got this photo so that you could
show Felix Valentin and his family this photo
of Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because

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answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You got this photo so you can suggest
to Felix Valentin and his family that Jacques
Rivera was the person who shot Felix Valentin;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. On August 27th, 1988 you placed this
mugshot of Jacques Rivera in the investigative
file?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. On August 27th, 1988, you were present
when Detective Gillian McLaughlin placed this
mugshot of Jacques Rivera in the investigative
file?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. On August 27th, 1988, you were present
when Detective John Leonard placed this mugshot
of Jacques Rivera in the investigative file?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, and I have an objection
to it being asked with lack of good faith to
the extent that it's asked in relation to each
individual officer.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
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Q. Isn't it true that both Plaintiff's
Exhibit 2 and Plaintiff's Exhibit 3 had been -both been placed in the investigative file by
August 27th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that all Chicago police
officers involved in the Valentin investigation
had access to the investigative file?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
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Q. On August 27th, 1988 you were present
when Steve Gawrys placed this mugshot of
Jacques Rivera in the investigative file; isn't
that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to any questions about who placed this mugshot
of Jacques Rivera in the investigative file
because answering the question will incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to any questions about who was present when
this mugshot was placed in the investigative
file because answering the question will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. Isn't it true that you had also
discussed materials in the investigative file
with Steve Gawrys?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that before you
discussed the materials in the investigative -sorry.
Isn't it true that before
August 29th, 1988 you discussed the materials
in the investigative file with your supervisors
too, Edward Mingey, Russell Weingart and Rocco
Rinaldi?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth regarding
who you discussed the materials with before
August 29th, 1988 because answering the
question will incriminate you?

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you yourself have
reviewed the investigative file and the
materials in that file?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You had helped to gather materials
that had been placed in the investigative file
before August 29th, 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that before August 29th,
1988, you had determined that you were going to
frame Jacques Rivera for the shooting of Felix
Valentin before you ever spoke with Orlando
Lopez?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Before any Chicago police officer
spoke with Orlando Lopez, you had come to an
agreement to frame Jacques Rivera with
Detective Gillian McLaughlin; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Before any CPD officer spoke to
Orlando Lopez, you had entered an agreement to
frame Jacques Rivera with Detective John
Leonard; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Before any CPD officer spoke to
Orlando Lopez, you had come to an agreement to
frame Jacques Rivera with Steve Gawrys; isn't
that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. EKL: Do you want to take a quick
break?
THE WITNESS: No, I'm fine.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Before any Chicago police officer
spoke to Orlando Lopez, you had come to an
agreement to frame Jacques Rivera with gang

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crime specialist Dan Noon, John Guzman, Joseph
Sparks, Paul Zacharias, Joseph Fallon -- and
Joseph Fallon; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that before any CPD
officer spoke to Orlando Lopez, you had come to
an agreement to frame Jacques Rivera with
Edward Mingey, Russell Weingart and Rocco
Rinaldi?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth regarding
any agreements to frame Jacques Rivera prior to
speaking with Orlando Lopez because answering
the question will incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were present when all of these
people discussed their agreement to frame
Jacques Rivera with one another; isn't that
true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And the conversations in which an
agreement was discussed to frame Jacques Rivera
took place before your first meeting with Lopez
on August 29th, 1988; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Your agreement with your co-defendants
to frame Jacques Rivera that existed before
your meeting with Lopez continued after your
first meeting with Lopez on August 29th, 1988;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that by the time you met
with Lopez on August 29th, 1988, Jacques
Rivera's rap sheet was already in the
investigative file?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that by the time you met
with Lopez on August 29th, 1988, Jacques
Rivera's mugshot was already in the
investigative file?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to those last two questions because answering
the question would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You brought Jacques Rivera's mugshot
to your first meeting with Lopez on
August 29th, 1988; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. You went to Orlando Lopez's house on
August 29th, 1988; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you brought Orlando
Lopez into the police station on August 29th?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you brought Orlando
Lopez to Area Six on August 29?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You brought Orlando Lopez to Area Five
on August 29th; is that correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth regarding
where you brought Orlando Lopez on August 29th
because answering the questions would
incriminate you?

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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard

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facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my -MS. EKL: Wait. I'm sorry. Is your
question --

MR. SWAMINATHAN: I'll ask it again.
MS. EKL: Okay.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to any questions I ask you about any
description that Orlando Lopez gave to you of
what he witnessed during the shooting?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence. But to the extent that
you can answer whether you are continuing to
assert the Fifth to that topic, you can answer
that question.
THE WITNESS: On the advice -MS. EKL: You can answer it. Would
you continue to assert the Fifth to any
questions on that topic?
THE WITNESS: Yes, I will. Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Okay. And you plead the Fifth as to
any questions on that topic because answering
the questions will incriminate you; isn't that
true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. Isn't it true that Orlando Lopez did
not tell you that he had seen the shooter
before?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that he did not tell you
that he had seen the shooter playing baseball
in Humboldt Park previously?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. In fact, you made up the story about
the shooter being someone who played baseball
in Humboldt Park; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You made up that story because you
knew that Jacques Rivera worked near Humboldt
Park; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
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Q. Orlando Lopez told you -- strike that.
Orlando Lopez did not tell you
that he thought the shooter was a Latin King;
isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Orlando Lopez told you that the man
who did the shooting was dressed in black;
isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Orlando Lopez told you that the man
who did the shooting had gold in his hair;
isn't that correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Orland Lopez told you that he hid in
the corner of a building during the shooting;
isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Orlando Lopez told you that he had
gone to a store during the shooting; isn't that
true?

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Orlando Lopez told you that he had not
seen the person who shot Felix Valentin at all;
isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And are you pleading the Fifth
regarding all of these questions about what
Orlando Lopez told you on August 29th, 1988
about what he witnessed during the shooting
because answering the questions would
incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth on
all questions about any of your interactions
with Orlando Lopez?
MS. EKL: Objection to the extent it
assumes facts not in evidence, but you can

answer whether or not you would continue to
assert the Fifth Amendment in relation to that
topic.
THE WITNESS: Yes, I will.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth on those
topics because pleading -- because answering
the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that on August 29th,
1988, you had Orlando Lopez look at a number of
gang books?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that gang books are blue
binders?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Gang books are filled with color
photographs, correct?

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MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
Gang Book description
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. All the photographs are IR
photographs, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The binders had four pictures per
page, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The pictures on each page were
lettered A, B, C and D, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The binders had indexes in the back
that listed the names of the individuals in the
photographs, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The back of each photograph lists the
names of the person depicted in the gang books?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The gang books were kept by Gang
Crimes North, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Those gang books were in the custody
of Gang Crimes North until all of the gang
specialists moved to Maxwell Street in the
1990s, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Today the gang books that you
allegedly showed to Orlando Lopez no longer
exist, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The gang books that you showed Orlando
Lopez were books that were supposed to never
leave the Gang Crimes office, correct?

MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that those gang books
were considered evidence in ongoing
investigations and had to be preserved as such?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to any questions regarding the gang books
because answering those questions will
incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form. But to the
extent that he is asking you any further
questions regarding gang books, would you
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you can answer that question.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You also made your own personal gang
books -- are you pleading the Fifth -- are you
pleading the Fifth with regard to any questions
about the gang books because answering the
questions will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You also made your own personal gang
books with photos of individuals to show to
crime witnesses; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You selected the photographs in your
personal book gang books yourself; isn't that

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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You took some of the photographs that
you put in your personal photo books; isn't
that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You included photos in your personal
gang book of individuals you planned to lock
up; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You put a photo of Jacques Rivera in
your personal gang book; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to any questions about your personal gang book?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence. To the extent that he
asked you any questions regarding any personal
gang book, if you are asked the question -- I'm
sorry.
Any questions that you would be
asked regarding any personal gang books
maintained by you, would you continue to assert
the Fifth?
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth on any

questions regarding possible personal gang
books because answering the questions will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, before showing Orlando Lopez any
photo books or gang books, you had determined
that you were going to manipulate him so he
would identify Jacques Rivera in the photo
book; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You planned to manipulate Orlando
Lopez into identifying Jacques Rivera by
showing him what photo to pick; isn't that
true?

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MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You planned to manipulate Orlando
Lopez to identify Jacques Rivera in the photo
book by directing his attention to Jacques
Rivera's photo in the photo book; isn't that
true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. You had agreed with the Detective
McLaughlin that you would manipulate Lopez to
identify Jacques Rivera in the gang book; isn't
that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You had agreed with Detective Leonard
that you would manipulate Orlando Lopez to
identify Jacques Rivera in the photo book?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You agreed with your partner, Steve
Gawrys, that you would manipulate Lopez to
identify Jacques Rivera in the photo book;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You had agreed with Detective
McLaughlin that you would manipulate Lopez to
identify Jacques Rivera in the photo book;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You agreed with the other gang crimes
officers, Noon, Guzman, Sparks, Zacharias,
Fallon, that you would manipulate Lopez to
identify Jacques Rivera in the photo book;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You agreed with Edward Mingey, Russell
Weingart and Rocco Rinaldi that you would
manipulate Lopez to identify Jacques Rivera in
the photo book; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And are you pleading the Fifth with
regard to any agreement with other officers to
in manipulate Lopez to identify Jacques Rivera
in photo books because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence. And as asked, I don't
think that he can answer that question as yes
or no. I don't know how to narrow that to a
topic by the way it's asked.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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agreements with any other officers who are
defendants in this case about manipulating
Lopez to identify Jacques Rivera in the photo
books?
MS. EKL: Object to form, assumes
facts not in evidence. To the extent that he's
asking you about any agreements, you can answer
the question of whether you would continue to
assert your Fifth Amendment rights in regard to
anymore questions about agreements.
THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because pleading the
Fifth -- sorry.
And you plead the Fifth because
answering the questions, those questions would
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that on August 29th,
1988, when you had Lopez look at gang books,
you gave Orlando the gang book?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that on August 29th,
1988, when you had Lopez look at gang books,
you let Orlando look through a gang book?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that when you had Lopez
look at the gang books, you flipped the gang
book to a particular page that you wanted Lopez
to look at?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because

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answering these three questions will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you were alone in the
room with Lopez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you pointed to the
picture of Jacques Rivera when you had Lopez
look at the gang books?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you told Lopez what
picture to select when you had him look at the
gang books?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,

assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you suggested to Lopez
that he should pick Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth in response
to these four questions because answering them
will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that when you had Lopez
look at photo books, Lopez pointed to Jacques
Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
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attorney, I assert my -MS. EKL: Actually -- I'm sorry.
Wait. Can you repeat the question. I think
I'm starting to get -BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that on August 29th,
1988, when you had Lopez look at gang books,
Lopez pointed to Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you told your fellow officers that
Lopez had picked Jacques Rivera from the photo
books; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you showed Orlando
Lopez the mugshot of Jacques Rivera before
showing him the gang book?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you told Orlando Lopez
to pick the same person from the photo book
that was depicted in the mugshot of Jacques
Rivera that you had already showed him?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
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answering either of those two questions would
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that when you had
Orlando Lopez look at the gang books you were
alone in the room with Orlando?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Even though Orlando did not pick
anyone out, you told your fellow officers that
he picked out Jacques Rivera; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. On August 29th, 1988 when you had
Orlando Lopez look at gang books, you gave
Orlando the gang books and let him look through
them; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Orlando could not
pick anyone out of the gang books?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because

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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
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facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You and other police officers told
Lopez that Jacques Rivera was responsible;
isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. On August 29th, 1988, when you had
Orlando Lopez look at gang books, you and other
officers told Lopez to pick Jacques Rivera from
the gang books, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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Q. Sir, on August 29th, 1988, when you
were supposed to have Orlando Lopez look at
gang book, you actually did not show him any
gang books; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Instead you showed him a mugshot of
Jacques Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not show him any other photos
at the same time, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You asked him whether the person in

the mugshot of Jacques Rivera was the person
who had shot Valentin, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You told him that the person in the
mugshot who was Jacques Rivera was the person
who had shot Valentin?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: I assert -- on the
advice of my attorney, I assert my Fifth
Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you did not keep
any record of the photograph that Orlando Lopez
supposedly identified in the gang book on
August 27th -- August 29th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you did not keep
any record of the photograph that Orlando Lopez
supposedly identified in a gang book on
August 29th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, asked and
answered, form, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And -- strike that.
You did not retain or preserve
the photo that Lopez supposedly selected from a
gang photo book, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And no other officer that participated
in the investigation retained or preserved the
photo that Lopez supposedly selected from a
gang photo book, correct?
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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. That photo was not copied in any way,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In your report of September 16th,
1988, you report the page and letter of the
photograph that was supposedly picked, but you
did not preserve the actual photograph?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You also did not retain or preserve
the gang photo book, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. By not preserving any photograph, you
deprived Jacques Rivera of evidence that would
have shown that Lopez did not pick Jacques from
a photo book on August 29th, 1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. By not preserving the handbook -- by
not preserving the gang books, you deprived
Jacques Rivera of evidence that would have
shown that Lopez did not pick Jacques Rivera
from a photo book on August 29th, 1988,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, isn't it true that Orlando Lopez
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. No other officer on the investigation
did so, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Only the index at the back of the
photo gang book -- strike that.
The index in the back of the book
is the only thing referenced in the police
report, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. As you sit here today, you have no way
to prove what photo Orlando Lopez actually
selected from any photo book, if he did select
a photo?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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shooter at all, correct?
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correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
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Q. You fed Orlando Lopez facts of the
shooting and made him into a witness, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You told him that Jacques Rivera was
the person who had committed the shooting,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you fabricated each
of the identifications made by Orlando Lopez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You fabricated Orlando Lopez's
identification of Jacques Rivera in a photo
book, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you fabricated Lopez's
identification of Jacques Rivera in a live
line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you concealed from Jacques, his
attorneys and prosecutors, the fact that you
had made up the entire story about Lopez
witnessing the crime, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You coerced Orlando Lopez to testify
falsely at trial against Jacques Rivera,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, are you pleading the Fifth
regarding any questions about your interactions
with Orlando Lopez because answering the
question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to assert the Fifth
Amendment to all questions about any arrest of
Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: I'm sorry. Repeat that
again. Maybe I heard it wrong?
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, do you intend to assert the Fifth
Amendment to all questions about any arrests of
Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, do you intend to assert the Fifth
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Rivera in which you participated?
A. On the advice of my -MS. EKL: Let me object first as to
the form.
If you intend the question to be,
do you intend to take the Fifth in regard to
any questions regarding your involvement in the
arrest of Jacques Rivera, then you can answer
that question.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Okay. And is the reason you do so
because pleading -- because answering the
question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that on August 30th,
1988, you arrested Jacques Rivera?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition Exhibit
No. 4 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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Q. Sir, what I'm handing you is a
document marked Plaintiff's Exhibit 4. It's
Bates stamped CPD 13.
Can you tell me what this
document is.
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you seen this document before?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you taking the Fifth Amendment
with regard to any questions about Plaintiff's
Exhibit 4?
MS. EKL: You can answer that.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answers these questions will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that when you arrested
Jacques Rivera on August 30th, 1988, Officers
Guzman, Noon, Zacharias, Fallon, Sparks and
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Your supervisor, Rinaldi, approved
your arrest of Jacques Rivera knowing that
there was no probable cause to arrest him,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You arrested Jacques Rivera on Beat
Street just west of Humboldt Park, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. It was daytime when you arrested
Jacques Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You told Jacques Rivera that you
needed to talk to him, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you threaten Jacques Rivera in any
way to accompany you to the police station?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you threaten Jacques Rivera in any
way to get him to accompany you to the police
station?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that it was common for
you to get volunteers for line-ups from the
neighborhood?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not put Jacques Rivera in
handcuffs at that time, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You did not discuss the Valentin
shooting with him at any time that day,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Instead, you discussed with Jacques
Rivera what was happening in the neighborhood,
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. After arresting Jacques Rivera on
August 30th, 1988 you first took Jacques to
Area Six, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Jacques Rivera was placed in an
interrogation room in Area Six, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And the door to the interrogation room
was closed and locked, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You left Jacques in the interrogation
room until close to midnight, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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Q. Before midnight you transferred
Jacques Rivera to Area Five, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. And Jacques was put in a holding cell
at Area Five, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Then your shift ended and you left
Jacques in the holding cell, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. At no time did you read Jacques Rivera
his Miranda rights, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. When you came in the next morning
Jacques Rivera was still in the holding cell,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. At no time, did you inform Jacques

Rivera why he was being held at Area Five,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you agreed with Officers Leonard,
McLaughlin and Gawrys that no one would
interrogate Jacques Rivera about the shooting
after his arrest so as to prevent him from
learning why he had been arrested, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition Exhibit
No. 5 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, are you pleading the Fifth with
regard to these questions about the arrest of
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sorry -- between Areas Five and Six because
answering these questions will incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. I'm handing you the document marked
Exhibit 5. It's Bates stamped CPD 14.
Sir, can you tell me what this
document is?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Have you ever seen this document
before?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you going to be pleading the Fifth
Amendment with regard to any questions about
Plaintiff's Exhibit 5?
MS. EKL: You can answer.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
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Q. And you do so because answering the
questions regarding this document will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that on August 30th,
1988 you added a line to Jacques Rivera's rap
sheet?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You wrote that he had been arrested
for an aggravated battery; isn't that true?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You wrote the date August 30th, 1988
next to that entry, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You wrote that even though you knew
that Jacques Rivera had nothing to do with that
aggravated battery, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering any -- any of these last four
questions about Jacques Rivera's rap sheet will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. In your arrest report, which has been
marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 4, you state that
hold papers were submitted in order to keep
Jacques Rivera in the 25th District lock up on
August 30th, 1988 and August 31st, 1988,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you submitted those hold papers so
that you could keep Jacques Rivera in the
lock-up even though there was no probable cause
to suspect that he had been involved in the
Valentin shooting, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes

facts not in evidence, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Hold papers were submitted by you and
Detective Leonard to the 25th District Watch
Commander on 11:00 p.m. on August 30th, 1988,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You discussed submitting those hold
papers with Detective Leonard, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You determined that you would be able
to perform a live line-up with Jacques Rivera
before the evening of the next day, August 31st
of 1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. And you discussed the plan to conduct
a live line-up on August 31st, 1988 with
Detective Leonard, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you discussed that plan to conduct
a live line-up on August 31st, 1988 with
Detective McLaughlin?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you discussed that plan to conduct
a live line-up on August 31st, 1988 with your
partner, Steve Gawrys?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You made sure that Jacques was held
overnight at Area Five, the 25th District, from
August 30th of 1988 to August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to all questions about the hold papers that
were placed on Jacques Rivera because answering
those questions would incriminate you?
MS. EKL: You can answer that.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
MS. EKL: I'm sorry. Actually, the
question I think you thought he was asking -we're stepping ahead.
MR. ART: Yeah, that's right.
THE WITNESS: Can you ask the question
again? I think -- we keep repeating the same
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don't know that he actually heard you because I
was thinking -- I instructed him wrongly. I
was thinking one question farther.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Fair enough.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth about all
-- are you pleading the Fifth with regard to
all questions about hold papers placed on
Jacques Rivera because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And are you pleading the Fifth
regarding all questions about conversations
about submitting hold papers because answering
those questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, do you intend to plead the Fifth
on all questions about Jose Rodriguez and
Felipe Nieves?
A. On the advice of my -MS. EKL: You can answer that
question.

THE WITNESS: Yes.
MS. EKL: That's the question -THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, you knew that on August 30th,
1988, Officers Letrich and Moriarity from the
14th District Tactical Unit had interviewed
Felix Valentin at Cook County Hospital,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you knew that Valentin had told
those officers that the individuals responsible
for his shooting were members of the Imperial
Gangsters gang, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Do you intend to assert the Fifth
Amendment with regard to all questions about
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question.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Felix Valentin also described the make
and model of car used by the perpetrators of
the shooting, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. He described the car as being a
two-door Toyota, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you knew that Jacques Rivera did
not drive the car that matched the description
that Felix Valentin provided of the car,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you discussed with
Letrich and Moriarity the fact that Valentin
had identified his assailant as Imperial
Gangsters?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
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Q. And you knew at that time and
discussed the fact that Jacques Rivera was not
an Imperial Gangster gang member?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you determined with Letrich and
Moriarity that they would show Valentin an
Imperial Gangsters photo book, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you knew that Letrich and
Moriarity had then returned to Cook County,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that Letrich and Moriarity

had then returned to Cook County Hospital and
had shown Felix Valentin pictures of Imperial
Gangster gang members, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that Valentin identified a
photograph of Jose Rodriguez as the shooter,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that Felix Valentin
identified photographs of Felipe Nieves as the
driver of the car, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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would undermine your effort to frame Jacques
Rivera for the crime, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, and foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you knew that Valentin's
identification of different suspects showed
that Jacques Rivera was the wrong guy?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that after Valentin's
identification of Rodriguez, Officers Letrich
and Moriarity had identified an address for
Jose, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And are you pleading the Fifth with
regard to all questions about Jose Rodriguez
and his arrest because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Officers Letrich and Moriarity
consulted with you about arresting Jose
Rodriguez, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And that Letrich and Moriarity went
with Officers Vergara and Wojcik to find and
arrest Jose Rodriguez, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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Q. You knew that they had arrested Jose
Rodriguez at 1:00 a.m. on August 31st, 1988,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. They had made that arrest at the same
time that you were putting hold papers on
Jacques Rivera in order to conduct a live
line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that Officers Letrich,
Moriarity, Vergara and Wojcik were taking Jose
Rodriguez to the 14th District, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment

constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You discussed with these officers
holding Rodriguez for a live line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that early in the morning of
August 31st, 1988, at the same time that
Jacques Rivera was being held at Area Five,
Rodriguez was being held at the 14th District,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that Rodriguez had been
arrested for shooting Felix Valentin, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you had particular reasons for not
arresting Felipe Nieves, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not search for Nieves at all
because his dad was a cop who you knew,
correct?
THE WITNESS: On the -MS. EKL: I'm sorry. Objection, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to any questions about Felipe Nieves because
answering those questions would incriminate

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you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You did not search for Nieves at all
-- I'm sorry. Strike that.
You did not want to pursue Felipe
Nieves as a suspect, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And so you just ignored him as a
potential suspect; isn't that correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you're pleading the Fifth with
regard to these last two questions about Felipe
Nieves because answering them would incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that Officer Letrich was
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Rodriguez were in custody?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Officer Moriarity
was aware that both Jacques Rivera and Jose
Rodriguez were in custody?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Officers Wojcik,
Vergara, McLaughlin, Leonard, Noon, Sparks,
Zacharias, Fallon, Gawrys, Mingey, Weingart and
Rinaldi all were aware that both Jacques Rivera
and Jose Rodriguez were in custody?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to any questions about who was aware about
Jacques Rivera and Jose Rodriguez being in
custody because answering those questions would
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. For each of the following individuals,
I want you to tell me if they were aware of a
plan to have -- strike that.
Did you talk to Officer Letrich
about having Lopez view a live line-up that
included both Jacques Rivera and Jose
Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you talked to
Officer Moriarity about having Lopez view a
live line-up that included both Jacques Rivera
and Jose Rodriguez?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you spoke to
Officer Wojcik about having Lopez view a
line-up that included both Jacques Rivera and
Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you spoke with
Officer Vergara about having Lopez view a
line-up that included both Jacques Rivera and
Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you spoke with
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line-up that included both Jacques Rivera and
Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a conversation
with John Leonard about having Lopez view a
live line-up that included both Jacques Rivera
and Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a conversation
with Daniel Noon about having Lopez view a live
line-up that included both Jacques Rivera and
Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a conversation
with Joseph Sparks about having Lopez view a
live line-up that included Jacques Rivera and
Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a conversation
with Paul Zacharias about having Lopez view a
live line-up that included both Jacques Rivera
and Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a conversation
with Joseph Fallon about having Lopez view a
live line-up that included both Jacques Rivera
and Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you had a
conversation with Steve Gawrys about having
Lopez view a live line-up that included both
Jacques Rivera and Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a conversation
with Ed Mingey about having Lopez view a live
line-up that included both Jacques Rivera and
Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a conversation
with Russell Weingart about having Lopez that
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Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a conversation
with Rocco Rinaldi about having Lopez view a
live line-up that included both Jacques Rivera
and Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And are you pleading the Fifth with
regard to any conversations about -- that you
had about having Lopez view a live line-up with
both Jacques Rivera and Jose Rodriguez because
answering those questions would incriminate
you?
MS. EKL: I object to -- object to
form, assumes facts not in evidence, but to the
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he's pleading the fact to any questions about
any conversations he may have had, in regard to
that topic, then you can answer that question.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that -- sorry. Strike
that.
Do you intend to plead the Fifth
with regard to all interactions with Orlando
Lopez on August 30th or August 31st, 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
MS. EKL: Well, let me back up. You
can answer the question as to whether or not
you would plead the Fifth in regard to any
questions about if you had any interactions and
what those interactions would be in relation to
Orlando on those two dates.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

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Q. Isn't it true that you called Orlando
Lopez's mother house on the evening of August
30th, 1988 after the arrest of Jacques Rivera
to see if he could view a line-up with Jacques
Rivera in it?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that Lopez's mother said
that it was too late that day?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true Lopez's mother said that
it was -- strike that.
Isn't it true she said that Lopez
was sleeping?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true Lopez's mother said she
did not want to wake him up?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true there was no other
police follow-up with Lopez that night?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you knew where
Lopez's mother lived at that point in time?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you knew Lopez's
mother's phone number?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true -MS. EKL: I know this is belated, but,
Counsel, I think you've already asked these
questions.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: That stuff is -there are a couple of things that have been
asked and some were actually -MS. EKL: Well, to the extent that
we're repeating any questions previously asked,
I would object.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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that point in time, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you knew Lopez's father phone
number, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you knew Lopez went to school at
Mozart Elementary School, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You knew that Orlando Lopez had been
in school on August 30th and 31st, 1988,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You knew that Orlando Lopez had been
in school on August 30th, 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you knew that Lopez would be at
his mother's house on August 31st, 1988,
correct?
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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you knew he would be at his
father's house on August 31st, 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you knew he would be in school on
August 31st, 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you found Orlando Lopez on
August 31st, 1988 without any problems,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to all questions about finding Orlando Lopez on
August 30th and August 31st because answering
those questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
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that.
Do you intend to plead the Fifth
with regard to all questions about any line-up
that took place on August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
As far as asserting your Fifth
Amendment rights.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any questions about any photo
line-ups or live line-ups on August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation. But
to the extent you're asked any questions about
line-ups or photo line-ups from those dates,
you can answer the question as to whether or
not you will continue to assert your Fifth
Amendment rights.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Ad you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any questions about any photo
line-ups or live line-ups at all in the
Valentin investigation?
MS. EKL: I would object to the form
of the question, but to the extent that you're
asked any further questions about any line-ups,
whether photo or otherwise in the Valentin
investigation, you can answer whether you would
continue to assert your Fifth Amendment.
THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, isn't it true that you conducted
two in-person live line-ups in the
investigation of the Valentin shooting?
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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You conducted one line-up in person,
live line-up, on August 31st, 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you conducted a second in-person
live line-up on September 15th, 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you made a police report
documenting the second in-person live line-up,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You did not document the first
in-person live line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You hid the fact that you conducted
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you hid that fact from Jacques
Rivera's attorneys?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you hid that fact -- strike that.
And you hid the fact that you
conducted a first line-up from state
prosecutors, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
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Q. And you hid the fact that you
conducted a first line-up from Jacques -strike that.
You hid the fact that you
conducted a first line-up on August 31st, 1988
from Jacques Rivera, his attorneys and the
state prosecutors, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, Detectives McLaughlin and Leonard
conferred with you about finding volunteer
fillers to stand in the live line-up on
August 31st, 1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And officers from the 14th District
were sent out to find fillers to stand in the

line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Those fillers were brought back to
Area Five, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you found a filler named Angel
Villafane to participate in the live in-person
line-up on August 31st, 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And Mr. Villafane provided you and
other officers working on the investigation
with his date of birth, age, and address,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You found a filler named Carlos
Olivero to participate in the live in-person
line-up on August 31st, 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And Mr. Olivero provided you and other
officers working on the investigation with his
date of birth, age and address, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you told Mr. Olivero that he was
going to be in a live line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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in a driveway working on a car with friends
when you picked him up to be in the line-up,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You found a filler named George Ruiz
to participate in the live in-person line-up on
August 31st, 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And isn't it true that you told George
Ruiz that you got the guy who killed Felix
Valentin and he was going to be in a line-up
for that crime?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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you and other officers working on the
investigation with his date of birth, age, and
address?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you found a filler named
Lopez to participate in the live in-person
line-up on August 31st, 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And isn't it true Mr. Lopez provided
you and other officers working on the officers
with his date of birth, age, and address?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In total you arranged to have four
fillers stand in the live line-up on
August 31st, 1988, correct?

A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And isn't it true Villafane, Olivero,
Ruiz and Lopez were the fillers in a live
line-up viewed by Orlando Lopez on August 31st,
1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you are pleading the Fifth because
answering questions regarding a line-up on
August 31st and fillers in that line-up would
incriminate you, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. With regard to the mechanics of that
line-up, you had a hold on Jacques Rivera until
7:00 p.m. on August 31st, 1988, so you had to
complete your live line-up that included
Jacques Rivera by that time, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You picked up Orlando Lopez on
August 31st, 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You brought him to Area Five, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And 25th District in Area Five was the
location of the first line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Felix's father was also present in the
observation room for the line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, foundation.
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constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The line-up room was approximately
15-foot long by 12-feet wide, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. The line-up room had four walls with a
glass wall on one side, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. The line-up room had four walls and
there was glass on one of the four walls,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Detective McLaughlin was present for
the first line-up on August 31st, 1988,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. And Detective Leonard was present for
the first line-up on August 31st, 1988,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And officer Gawrys was present for the
first line-up on August 31st, 1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that one detective stood
on one side of the glass and one detective
stood on other side of the glass?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment

constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And isn't it true you put Jacques
Rivera in the middle of that line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you put Jose Rodriguez
at the end of the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you have all the participants in
the line-up numbers, correct?
MS. EKL: I'm sorry. Say that again.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You have all the participants in the
line-up numbers?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Each of the people that participated
in the line-up was given a number, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And then you call out the numbers,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And then each person steps back -steps forward and then back in the line,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you would suggest to Lopez that he
should pick Jacques Rivera from that line-up,
did you not?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you suggested this even though it
was clear that Orlando Lopez could not make an
identification, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition Exhibit
No. 6 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Showing you a document marked Exhibit
No. 6, can you tell me what this document is,

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exhibits that we -- the photos that we received

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can see it too before we -MR. SWAMINATHAN: Absolutely. We're

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exhibit, we're putting these together as one

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Can you -- did you get all the

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question.
I don't recall. Were there Bates
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MS. EKL: When you say 14 through 20,
are they in that same order or are they in a
different order?
MR. ART: That's the order they were
produced to us.
MS. EKL: Okay. But, I mean, is that
also the order that they're in in this
compilation? Is that 14 on the end on the left
and then ending with 20 on the right?
MR. ART: They are in the order that
they were numbered and produced to us.
MS. EKL: Okay. Thank you.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. All right. Sir, you have a copy of
Plaintiff's Exhibit 6 in front of you?
MS. EKL: Maybe we should put this
down.
MR. ART: Well, let's keep that up so
the camera can see that. He's got the
identical thing right there, and then we can
just ask questions about it.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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exhibit?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my constitutional rights.
Q. Do any of the individuals in this
exhibit look familiar to you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any questions about Plaintiff's
Exhibit 6?
A. On the -MS. EKL: You can answer that
question.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering
questions about Plaintiff's Exhibit 6 will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, these are the photographs of the
people that stood in the line-up that you
conducted on August 31st, 1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes

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facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And isn't it true that this is also
the order in which they stood?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. These are photos taken just outside of
the line-up room at Area Five in the 25th
District correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Let me re-ask that.
These are photos taken just

outside of the line-up room in the 25th
District in Area Five, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Each of these photographs are taken at
the same location, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And isn't it true that Jacques Rivera
is depicted in this line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Jose Rodriguez is
depicted in this line-up?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. After the line-up was concluded, you
immediately inventoried these photos of the
line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The pictures were sent to the evidence
and recovered property section of the Chicago
Police Department on August 31st, 1988 just
before midnight, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorneys, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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photographs were never shared with Jacques
Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And they were never shared despite
Jacques Rivera's requests for exculpatory
evidence during his criminal proceeding,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And they were never shared with
Jacques Rivera's attorneys' request for
exculpatory evidence during these criminal
proceedings, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And the inventorying of these
photographs was also part of your agreement
with Steve Gawrys that you would hide the fact
of the live line-up conducted on August 31st,
1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you forgot that these
photographs had been inventoried as evidence
which is why you did not dispose of them along
with the other photographs of the first
line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in facts.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Photographs were never shared with
Jacques Rivera's criminal attorneys at all,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And the photographs were never shared
with state prosecutors, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true the inventorying of
these photographs was part of your agreement
with Detective McLaughlin and Leonard, that you
would hide the facts of the live line-up
conducted on August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Do you want to keep
this one?
MS. EKL: Oh, thank you.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, who was picked in the line-up
that took place on August 31st, 1988?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Orlando Lopez did
not pick Jacques Rivera out of the first live
line-up on August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And that's the reason you released
Jacques Rivera from custody shortly after that
August 31st line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. If Jacques Rivera had been picked in
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from custody, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, calls for
speculation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you released Jacques
Rivera from custody without charges?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you would have
charged Jacques Rivera with aggravated battery
if he had been picked from the first line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, calls for
speculation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment

constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Orlando Lopez
picked Jose Rodriguez out of the first live
line-up on August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation -THE WITNESS: On the -MS. EKL: Sorry. Form, assumes facts
not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not want Jose Rodriguez to be
the person charged with this crime, did you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And you made sure that Jose Rodriguez
was let go after this line-up on August 31st,
1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You didn't though so that Jacques
Rivera could remain the suspect in the Valentin
shooting investigation, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, isn't it true that Orlando Lopez
picked a filler or non-suspect out of the first
live line-up on August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, you knew that Orlando Lopez had
failed to pick Jacques Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
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constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you knew this undermined your case
because Lopez had failed to pick from a line-up
the very person that you had previously
suggested to him was responsible for the
shooting, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

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Q. And you knew that Orlando Lopez had
failed to pick Jose Rodriguez, the person who
been selected from photos by Felix Valentin,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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line-up on August 31st, 1998 -- 1988 because
answering those questions would incriminate
you?
MS. EKL: Objection to the form of the
question. But to the extent that you're asked
any further questions regarding an August 31st
line-up, would you -- you can answer the
question of whether or not you would continue
to assert your Fifth Amendment rights in
regards to those questions.
THE WITNESS: Yes, I will.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you did not make
any report recording the fact that you
conducted a live in-person line-up on
August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.

BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you did this so that you could
keep Orlando Lopez as a witness even though he
had not picked Jacques Rivera from the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The first line-up on August 31st took
place in the same location as a second line-up
that you conducted on September 15th, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had an evidence
technician photograph the participants of the
live line-up viewed by Orlando on August 31st,
1988?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. However, photographs from the first
line-up were never given to Jacques Rivera,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And isn't it true you destroyed the
pictures of the first line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, do you dispute Jacques Rivera's
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occurred August 31st, 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Do you have any reason to dispute
Jacques Rivera's testimony that there was a
first live line-up on August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do you dispute the testimony of any of
the fillers who were in the first line-up on
August 31st, 1988 that there was, in, fact a
live in-person line-up on that date?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do you have any reason to dispute the
testimony of any of the fillers who testified
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in-person line-up on August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't the reason that there was no
report of the first line-up because you wanted
to preserve Orlando Lopez as a witness?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Since Orlando Lopez had picked a
filler, the only way to preserve him as a
witness was by pretending as if the line-up did
not happen at all, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, and argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment

BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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calls for speculation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you drove Orlando
Lopez home to his mother's house following the
line-up on August 31st, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you did not see Orlando
Lopez any date after that first line-up until
you picked him up again for a second line-up on
September 15th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, are you pleading the Fifth as to
all of these questions about the first line-up
and the documentation of the first line-up
because answering those questions would
incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. After the first line-up on
August 31st, 1988, Jacques Rivera was placed in
an interrogation room, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Jacques had no knowledge of what case
he was there for, correct?
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facts not in evidence, and foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not tell Jacques about the
Valentin shooting that day, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Jacques was arrested, stood in the
line-up and then went home, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that close to midnight
on August 31st -- August 31st, you and
Detective Leonard executed release papers for
Jacques Rivera?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And Jacques Rivera was released
without any charge, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. After he was released, you added to
Jacques Rivera's rap sheet that he had been
arrested for aggravated battery and has been
released without charge, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition Exhibit
No. 7 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that close to midnight
on August 31st, you and Detective Leonard
issued release papers for Jose Rodriguez?
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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, what I'm handing you is a
document that's been marked Plaintiff's
Exhibit 7, and it's CPD0051.
Sir, have you seen this document
before?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any questions about Plaintiff's
Exhibit No. 7?
A. Yes.
Q. And you do so because answering
questions about Plaintiff Exhibit 7 would
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And isn't it true that on Plaintiff's
Exhibit 7, it states that on August 30th, 1988,
Jacques Rivera was released without charge
about two-thirds of the way, page down?
MS. EKL: Objection, the document
speaks for itself, form.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you and fellow -- strike
that.
Do you intend to plead the Fifth
with regard to any questions about your contact
with Felix Valentin and his family members?
MS. EKL: Are you saying at any time?
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. At any time during your investigation
of the Felix Valentin murder?
MS. EKL: Object to the form to the
extent that it assumes facts not in evidence,
but you can answer the question as to whether
or not you would continue to assert your Fifth
Amendment to any questions regarding whether
you had any contact with Felix Valentin and his
family and the nature of those contacts.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any questions about interactions with
Felix Valentin in the hospital?
MS. EKL: You can answer that
question.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. You and fellow Chicago police officers
interviewed Felix Valentin at the Cook County
Hospital on multiple occasions, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
MS. EKL: I'm sorry. I know this is
belated. But to the extent your question is
asking about interviews of Felix Valentin
outside of his presence, I object to
foundation.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You made reports of those interviews

which you concealed from state prosecutors and
from Jacques Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The only reports of interviews with
Felix Valentin that you did not conceal were
the August 27th, 1988 general offense report
and the August 31st, 1988 supplementary report
of Letrich and Moriarity discussing Jose
Rodriguez, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Following the August 31st, 1988
line-up that you conducted, you did not
interview Felix Valentin, correct?
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facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you and fellow
Chicago police officers interviewed members of
Felix Valentin's family on multiple occasions?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation. To
the extent you're asking him questions about
interviews outside of his presence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you spoke with Israel
Valentin?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
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that he had suspected -- told you who he
suspected in the shooting of his brother?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And isn't it true that the people that
Israel Valentin told you were responsible for
shooting Felix were not Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Israel Valentin
told you the people responsible for shooting
Felix were Imperial Gangsters?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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with Israel Valentin, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You recorded your interviews of Israel
Valentin on GPRs, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. However, you concealed your record of
those interviews, didn't you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You concealed your recordings of the

interviews with Israel Valentin so they would
not be included in the program retention file,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You never memorialized your interview
in any document given to state prosecutors,
Jacques Rivera, or his defense attorneys,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you and fellow Chicago
police officers interviewed Israel's
girlfriend, Marilyn Lopez as well?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And those interviews demonstrated that
Jacques Rivera had nothing to do with the
shooting, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you concealed all records related
to your interviews with Marilyn Lopez, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You and fellow Chicago police officers
interviewed Felix's girlfriend as well,
correct?
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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Those interviews demonstrated that
Jacques Rivera had nothing to do with the
shooting, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You concealed your documentation of
those interviews from Jacques Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you and fellow Chicago
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as part of your investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true those interviews
demonstrated that Jacques Rivera had nothing to
do with the shooting?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you concealed those
other interviews?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about your communications
and interviews with members of the Felix

Valentin family because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form. I believe
you've already asked that question. But
objection, form, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your partner, Gawrys,
who was present with you for these interviews
I've just asked you about had also discussed
these interviews with you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, compound.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you agreed to conceal
all records of these interviews prior to -strike that.
Isn't it true you agreed with
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interviews prior to Jacques being charged and
to keep them secret during Jacques' wrongful
conviction and prosecution?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, compound.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
MS. EKL: And argumentative.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true, Gillian McLaughlin and
John Leonard were present with you for these
interviews and also discussed these interviews
with you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, and compound.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true they agreed with you to
conceal all records of these interviews prior
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secret during Jacques' wrongful conviction and
prosecution?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true Officers Noon, Guzman,
Sparks, Zacharias and Fallon were present with
you for these interviews and also discussed
these interviews with you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, compound.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true these officers agreed
with you to conceal all records of these
interviews prior to Jacques being charged and
to keep them secret during Jacques' wrongful
conviction and prosecution?
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assumes facts not in evidence, compound and
argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true Supervisors Mingey,
Weingart and Rinaldi were present with you for
these interviews and also discussed these
interviews with you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, compound.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true they also reviewed your
notes of these interviews?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Isn't it true they agreed with you to
conceal all records of these interviews prior
to Jacques being charged and to keep them
secret during Jacques' wrongful conviction and
prosecution?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, compound,
argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
MS. EKL: I'm sorry. I thought you
went out that door.
MR. ART: I did magic.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. So you never created any report of any
interview with Jacques Rivera, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, do you contend that you never
interviewed Jacques Rivera?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
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fellow Chicago police officers ever interviewed
Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Why did you conceal the reports of
interactions with Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to any questions about reports of interviews
with Jacques Rivera and other witnesses because
answering those questions would incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth
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photo line-up with Felix Valentin at Cook
County Hospital on August 31st?
MS. EKL: Did you say purported
photo -MR. SWAMINATHAN: Uh-huh.
MS. EKL: You can answer.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any -- strike that.
Do you intend to plead the Fifth
regarding any photo line-ups or purported photo
line-ups involving Felix Valentin during the
Valentin investigation?
MS. EKL: I'm going to just object to
the extent that it assumes facts not in
evidence, but you can answer that.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
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Hospital to visit -- strike that.
You never went to Cook County
Hospital to visit Felix Valentin on
August 31st, 1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Sir, no police officer went into Cook
County Hospital to visit Felix Valentin on
August 31st, 1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that there were no
pictures taken of the line-up on August 31st to
show the victim?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that any pictures taken
on August 31st, 1988 were to memorialize the

live in-person line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true Leonard McLaughlin wrote
a report that they presented photos to Valentin
at the hospital and that he didn't make an
identification?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true this was a way for you
and your colleagues to cover up the fact that
you had conducted -- that you had conducted an
in-person line-up with Lopez and not a photo
array with Felix Valentin?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that this was a way to
cover up the fact that you conducted an
in-person line-up in which neither Jacques
Rivera, nor Jose Rodriguez had been picked?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, and
argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that on August 31st,
1988, Felix Valentin could not communicate with
anyone?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true on August 31st, 1988
Felix Valentin was comatose?

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MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that on September 10th,
1988, Valentin could not communicate with
anyone?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true on September 10th, 1988,
Felix Valentin was comatose?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to all of these questions I've just asked you
about a purported photo line-up on August 31st
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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

Q. Isn't it true that you were actively
investigating the case between September 1st
and September 15th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. During that time, evidence gathered to
show that Jacques Rivera had nothing to do with
the crime, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. During that time, witness interviews
that you conducted showed that Jacques Rivera
had nothing to do with the crime, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You took notes about those interviews,
correct?
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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You made reports of those interviews,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You conducted other line-ups related
to this case during this time period, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Other suspects who were not Jacques
Rivera were selected; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You showed photo arrays to other
witnesses during this period of time, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Other suspects who were not Jacques
Rivera were selected, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You and other officers made reports of
evidence favorable to Jacques Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Wait. I'm sorry.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Strike that.

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Q. You and other officers made reports of
evidence favorable to Jacques Rivera during the
time period from September 1st to September
15th, 1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You and other officers made reports of
line-ups favorable to Jacques Rivera during the
time period of September 1st to September 15th,
1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. But you concealed all of these reports
after you had -- after you had Lopez I.D.
Jacques Rivera on September 15th, 1988,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you concealed this evidence,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that there was an active
investigation between September 1st and
September 15th, 1988 that showed that Jacques
Rivera was innocent?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about the period from
September 1st and 15th, 1988 because answering
these questions would incriminate you?
A. I -- on the advice of my attorney, I
assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any questions about Orlando Lopez
identifying that he had selected the wrong
person?
MS. EKL: I object to the form of that
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with a yes or no.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Strike that
question.
MS. EKL: Hold on. He's going to
reask the question.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, Orlando Lopez told you between
the first and second line-ups that he had seen
the real perpetrator of the shooting, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Orlando Lopez told you that Jacques
Rivera was not the person who committed the
crime, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Orlando Lopez told
you that he interviewed the real -- strike
that.
Isn't it true that Orlando Lopez
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near the corner of Armitage and Central Park?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And isn't it true that Orlando Lopez
told you that that person was an Imperial
Gangster?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that Jacques Rivera was not a
member of the Imperial Gangsters, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you looked into Lopez's
description of the person and determined the
true identity of the perpetrator, correct?

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you ignored the true perpetrator
because you wanted to put Jacques Rivera in
jail wrongfully, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering these questions about your
interactions with Orlando would incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that on September 15th
you and your partner Gawrys received a call
from Area Five detectives telling you that

Felix Valentin had died the day before?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you went to find Jacques
Rivera at that point?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you picked up Jacques
Rivera at approximately 3:00 p.m. in the
afternoon on September 15th, 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true you asked Jacques Rivera
to accompany you to Area Five voluntarily?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And it was your intention when you
picked up Jacques Rivera on September 15th to
arrest him and charge him for murder, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. But you had no basis to believe that
he was involved in the murder of Felix Valentin
at that time, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form,
argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that a second live
in-person line-up took place in this case -took place in this case on September 15th,
1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. The line-up that took place on
September 15th, 1988 took place at the Violent
Crimes office at Area Five, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
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Q. The line-up that took place on
September 15th, 1988 took place in the same
place as the line-up that took place on
August 31st, 1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you gave Orlando Lopez a ride to
the second line-up on September 15th, 1988,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about a second line-up on
September 15th because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. And do you intend to plead the Fifth
with regard to any additional questions about
the second line-up on September 15th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form. To the
extent that it assumes facts not in evidence,
you can answer the question, if you are asked
any questions about an alleged second line-up,
would you continue to assert your Fifth
Amendment rights?
THE WITNESS: Yes, I will.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Would you do so because answering
those questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that at the time of the
second -- of the line-up -- strike that.
Isn't it true at the time of the
line-up on September 15th, 1988 some of the
fillers that you used were prisoners?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that some of the fillers
in the second line-up had CB numbers on their
hands?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that some of the fillers
had no shoe laces?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that the prisoners that
you used as fillers in the September 15th
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't is it true the fillers in the
second line-up were named Santiago Sanchez,
Efron Cruz, Felix Torres and Israel Delgado?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you told Jacques Rivera
that he had to stand in the middle of this
line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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the middle of the line-up to increase the
chances that he would be selected from the
line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, why you decide not to include
Jose Rodriguez in the second line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you included Rodriguez
in the first line-up because other police had
viewed him as a suspect?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, foundation.
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throughout the line-up on September 15th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true Detective McLaughlin was
present through the entire second line-up as
well?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And isn't it true you and Detective
McLaughlin were the only two police officers
present?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. I'm showing you a document marked

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constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you didn't put him in
the second line-up because you were afraid that
Orlando Lopez might pick him out?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition Exhibit
No. 8 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that having another
suspect in the second line up distracted from
the man you wanted to put away for murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, and
argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were there

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my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with

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THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Does the first page of Plaintiff's
Group Exhibit 8 depict the second line-up that
took place on September 15th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that during the second
line-up, you coerced Orlando Lopez to pick
Jacques Rivera from the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that prior to the

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line-up that you conducted on September 15th,
1988, Mr. Lopez told you that Jacques was not
the person he had seen shoot Felix Valentin?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Orlando Lopez told
you and Gillian McLaughlin that Jacques Rivera
was not the person who had committed the
shooting?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you told Orlando Lopez
to select Jacques Rivera from the line-up
anyway?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.

BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you pointed out Jacques
Rivera in the line-up and told Orlando to pick
him?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true Gillian McLaughlin told
Orlando Lopez to pick Jacques Rivera anyway?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true Gillian McLaughlin
pointed out Jacques Rivera to Orlando Lopez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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Q. Isn't it true you did nothing to stop
the line-up once Orlando Lopez had told you
that Jacques Rivera was not the perpetrator?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true McLaughlin did nothing
to stop the line-up once Lopez had told you
that Jacques Rivera was not the perpetrator?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you told Lopez that you
would protect him if he picked Jacques Rivera
from the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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tell Lopez that he would have police protection
if he picked Jacques Rivera from the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you told Lopez to pick
out the same person that you had shown him
before in photos?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you knew that Lopez was young and
vulnerable to your suggestion, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you knew that Orlando Lopez's
parents were not there, correct?

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not have Lopez's parents at
the line-up because you wanted to be able to
manipulate Orlando Lopez, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about your interactions with
Orlando Lopez because answering them would
incriminate you?
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you never recorded that
Orlando Lopez has said Jacques Rivera was not
the shooter in any way police report?

MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you reported that
Orlando Lopez had identified Jacques Rivera as
the shooter?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you never shared
the true story that Jacques Rivera was not the
shooter and you didn't share that story with
Jacques or his attorneys?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You didn't share that true story with
the prosecutors at any time, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you, Orlando Lopez,
and Gillian McLaughlin were the only people
present during the second line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true after the line-up, you
took Jacques Rivera to the booking desk and got
paperwork ready to charge him with murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And this happened before felony review
arrived, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, objection,
foundation, assumes facts not in evidence.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that this was the first
time you had said anything to Jacques about him
being involved in the Valentin shooting
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. At the desk you told Jacques Rivera
that if he gave you a name that you could use
as the shooter, you would put his name down as
the driver of the get-away car, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. After the line-up was completed and
before Jacques was charged, Weingart approved
the line-up that you had done, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You told Weingart what Lopez had said
about Jacques not being involved in the
shooting, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Weingart agreed with you to withhold
information about how the line-up had actually
been conducted and that Orlando Lopez had
said -- strike that.
Weingart agreed with you to
withhold information about how the line-up had
actually been conducted, true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. And he agreed with you to withhold
information about what Lopez had said from
prosecutors and from Jacques Rivera's
attorneys, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that there was no
prosecutors present at the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Prosecutors did not come to speak with
any of the police or to Jacques Rivera until
after the line-up was complete, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. There was no felony review until after
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correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not share with ASA Rosner what
had transpired in the line-up, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not share with ASA Rosner
anything that transpired previously in the
investigation, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You falsely informed ASA Rosner that
Lopez had selected Jacques Rivera as the person
who shot Felix Valentin, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about the involvement of the
ASA because answering those questions would
incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition Exhibit
No. 9 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. I'm handing you a document marked
Plaintiff's Exhibit 9, Bates stamped CPD53.
Have you seen this document
before?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to assert the Fifth
Amendment with regard to any questions about
the document marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 9?

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MR. SWAMINATHAN: Valentin.
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And are you pleading the Fifth -- do
you intend to plead the Fifth with regard to
any questions about your interactions with
Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Object to the form to the
extent it assumes facts not in evidence. You
can answer the question as to whether or not
you intend to plead the Fifth to any questions
regarding whether you had any interactions with
Jacques Rivera, and if so, what those
interactions were.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
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A. Yes.
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you're listed as a
prosecuting witness on Plaintiff's Exhibit 9?
MS. EKL: Objection, document speaks
for itself.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that it was not until
after the second line-up that you told Jacques
Rivera for the first time that he was being
charged with the shooting?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that this is the first
time that you and your colleagues ever told
Jacques about the shooting of Valentin?

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You did not tell an ASA on the evening
of September 15th or any other time that
Orlando Lopez had told you and McLaughlin that
Jacques was not the shooter, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. No other police officer told any ASA
-- strike that.
No other police officer told any
assistant state's attorney that Lopez had told
them that Jacques was not the person who shot
Valentin, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not tell Jacques or his
defense attorneys on the evening of September
15th, 1988 or any other time that Lopez had
told you and McLaughlin that Jacques was not
the shooter, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. No other police officer told Jacques
or his defense attorneys that Lopez had told
them that Jacques was not the person who had
shot Valentin?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You wrote a police report
memorializing that Lopez had told you and
McLaughlin that Jacques was not the shooter,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Police reports stating that Orlando
Lopez had told police that Jacques had not
killed Valentin were concealed; isn't that
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true police reports stating
that Lopez had told police that Jacques had not
killed Valentin were destroyed?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Neither you or any other police
officer ever told an ASA that you conducted a
first line-up in which Lopez picked an
individual who was not Jacques Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Neither you nor any other police
officer ever told Jacques or his attorneys that

you conducted a first line-up in which Lopez
picked an individual who was not Jacques
Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence. I thought that
was a question you just asked; but if not,
either way, same objection.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Neither you nor any other police
officer ever wrote a report memorializing the
fact that you conducted a first line-up in
which Lopez picked an individual who was not
Jacques, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you did not take
any steps to stop Jacques' wrongful arrest?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you did not take any
steps to stop Jacques' wrongful prosecution?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you did not take any
steps to stop Jacques' wrongful conviction?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, and
argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you're pleading -strike that.
Are you pleading the Fifth with
regard to these questions about charges against
Jacques Rivera because answering the questions
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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. I'm turning your attention back to
Plaintiff's Exhibit 8.
Isn't it true you're the person
who placed a red X on this line-up photo above
Jacques Rivera's head?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The red X was not placed on this
photograph by Orlando Lopez, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The red X was not placed on this
photograph by any other witness, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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Q. The red X was placed on this
photograph by a police officer, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition Exhibit
No. 10 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, what I've handed you is a
document marked Plaintiff's Exhibit 10. It's
Bates stamped CPD32 and CPD50.
Have you reviewed this document
before?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to assert your Fifth
Amendment right with regard to any questions
about Plaintiff's Exhibit 10?
A. Yes.
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

Q. Isn't it true you were the officer who
signed the final arrest report for Jacques
Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you and your partner
Gawrys picked up Jacques around 3:00 p.m. on
September 15th, 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you brought Jacques
Rivera to Area Five Violent Crimes?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you put in the arrest
report that he had been picked by a witness?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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arrest report that the witness, Orlando Lopez,
had told you that Jacques was not the person
who had committed the shooting?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were the officer who
signed the final arrest report for Jacques
Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form,
specifically to the word final arrest report.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. I draw your attention to a document
that was originally marked as Plaintiff's
Exhibit No. 1.
Isn't it true that on
September 16, 1988 you wrote a supplementary
report, Plaintiff's Exhibit 1?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. And you intend to plead the Fifth -strike that.
Are you pleading the Fifth -strike that.
Are you pleading the Fifth
because answering that question will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Just in case it wasn't clear on the
record report.
Do you intend to plead the Fifth
with regard to any questions related to
Plaintiff's Exhibit 1 and the supplementary
report you wrote on September 16th, 1988?
MS. EKL: I object to the form of the
question. If you -- you can answer the
question whether or not you intend to plead the
Fifth regarding any questions regarding Exhibit
No. 1.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
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your supplementary report on September 16th,
1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form. You can
answer the question as to whether or not
again -- no, never mind. Don't answer -THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. EKL: Unless you want to rephrase
it.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: I think we can
handle this.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. So to be clear, you intend to plead
the Fifth with regard to -- strike that.
Are you -- strike that.
Do you intend to plead the Fifth
with regard to any questions about Plaintiff's
Exhibit 1?
MS. EKL: You can answer that.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you wrote -- strike
that.
Isn't it true on September 16th,
1988 you wrote a supplementary report?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. And you wrote it in collaboration with
your partner, Steve Gawrys, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you gave the report to Mingey, the
supervisor that was present that day, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And Mingey approved this false report,
false report, Plaintiff's Exhibit 1, knowing
that it was false, correct?
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assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And the September 16th supplementary
report was written the day after Jacques was
arrested, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And the report, Exhibit 1, was written
the day after you concluded the second line-up
in the case, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And the report, Exhibit 1, is a
fabrication, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And isn't it true you deposited the
report, Plaintiff's Exhibit 1, in the
investigative file?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your report of September
16th, Exhibit 1, is not listed on the
investigative file inventory?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you deposited the false
report that is Exhibit 1 in the investigative
file in order to shore up your false story
about Jacques Rivera's involvement in the
shooting of Felix Valentin?
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assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you made this
report on September 16th to make the frame up
that you had constructed make sense?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that while your report
states that Orlando Lopez picked Jacques Rivera
from a photo book, that is false?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that while your report
states that you made numerous attempts to
interview Valentin at Cook County Hospital,
that is false?

MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And isn't it true that while your
report states that you showed Felix Valentin a
gang book at Cook County Hospital
September 10th, 1988, that is false?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that the Exhibit -Exhibit 1 falsely states that Valentin picked
out a photo of Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you never visited
Valentin in Cook County Hospital?
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true Valentin never made any
identification of Jacques Rivera?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true your report includes a
false story about the second line-up that took
place on September 15th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your report falsely
states that you informed Jacques Rivera that he
was going to stand in a line-up for murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your report admits the
fact that Lopez told you that Jacques Rivera
was not the person who committed the crime?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your report falsely
states that you showed Orlando Lopez
photographs of Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you did not even have a
photograph of Jose Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your report falsely
states that you showed Orlando Lopez
photographs of Felipe Nieves?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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Q. Isn't it true you knew that the

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Q. Isn't it true you knew that the
information contained in this report was false
when you signed it?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Gawrys knew that
the information contained in this report was
false when he signed it?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that despite knowing it
was false, Gawrys joined in the lie?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Mingey knew that

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the information contained in this report was
false when he signed it and approved it?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that despite knowing it
was false, Mingey joined in the lie?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true the report of September
16th, 1988 marked as Exhibit 1 was important to
bring charges against Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about Plaintiff's Exhibit 1
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incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you could have just
taken Jacques Rivera to Cook County Hospital to
be identified or not by Felix Valentin but you
chose not to, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Why didn't you attempt to have Felix
Valentin identify Jacques Rivera while he was
still alive?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you did not do this
because you knew that Valentin might tell you
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shot him?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you inserted this lie in
your police report, that is Exhibit 1, about
Valentin identifying Jacques Rivera knowing
that the report would be the official record of
the investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that the report as Exhibit 1
would be provided to state prosecutors,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that you were giving state

prosecutors false information, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that the report as Exhibit 1
would be given to Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you knew that the report as
Exhibit 1 would be given to Jacques Rivera's
attorneys, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that as a result of producing
Plaintiff's Exhibit 1, that those individuals
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case, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that everyone involved
except for you and your fellow officers would
have no idea that the story about an
identification by Felix Valentin at the
hospital on September 18, 1988 was a lie?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In fact, no one would have known that
you never visited the hospital on
September 10th, 1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentive.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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Q. Isn't it true you added this lie about
Valentin's identification of Jacques at Cook
County Hospital in order to help you -- help
your -- strike that.
Isn't it true you added this lie
about Felix Valentin's identification of
Jacques Rivera at Cook County Hospital in order
to help your effort to frame him for a crime he
did not commit?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true other CPD officials on
the investigation knew that you had put this
lie into your report and agreed with you that
you should include it?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
argumentative, assumes facts not in evidence,
and compound.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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Q. Isn't it true that Gawrys was present
when you wrote this lie in your report of
September 16th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Detective Gillian
McLaughlin was present when you wrote this lie
in your report on September 16th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Detective John
Leonard was present when you wrote this lie in
your report on September 16th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Isn't it true that gang crime
specialist, Daniel Noon, John Guzman, Joseph
Fallon, Joseph Sparks and Paul Zacharias were
present when you wrote this lie in your report
of September 16th, 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Is it true your supervisors, Edward
Mingey, Russell Weingart and Rocco Rinaldi
approved the lie that you wrote in your report
of September 16th, 1988 marked as Exhibit 1?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, and
argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition Exhibit
No. 11 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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to these questions about Plaintiff's Exhibit 1
because answering them would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. I'm handing you a document marked as
Plaintiff's Exhibit No. 11. This is Bates
stamped CPD80 and 81. Have you viewed this
document before?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering this question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any questions about Plaintiff's
Exhibit 11?
A. On the -- yes.
Q. And you do so because answering the
question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You have no reason to dispute any of
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correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form,
argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You have no reason to dispute any of
the items listed on the inventory sheet,
correct?
MS. EKL: Actually, I'll withdraw my
objection to the last question.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The inventory sheet does not list all
of the police reports that you created in
connection with this case, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The inventory report does not list
your report of September 16th, 1988, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,

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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The inventory sheet does not list all
of the reports created by other detectives and
police officers in this investigation, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The inventory sheet does not list all
the notes created by other detectives and
police officers in this investigation, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The inventory sheet does not list all
the photographs taken by police officers in
this investigation?

MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You didn't record reports on the
inventory sheet that you did not want Jacques
Rivera and state prosecutors to find out about,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not record on the inventory
sheet a number of reports and other evidence
that was kept in your street file, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that evidence that would
have shown that Jacques Rivera was innocent was
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from the inventory form?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true -- strike that.
Are you pleading the Fifth with
regard to these questions about Plaintiff's
Exhibit 11 because answering the questions
would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Your report of September 16th, 1988
marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 1 states that you
showed pictures of Jose Rodriguez and Felipe
Nieves to Orlando Lopez, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not put those photos in an
array, correct?
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facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You just showed them the photographs,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you did not show
Lopez photos of Jose Rodriguez at any time?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you did not show Lopez
photos of Felipe Nieves at that time?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true Orlando Lopez never told
that you Jose Rodriguez was not involved in the
Valentin murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Lopez never told
that you Felipe Nieves was not involved in the
Valentin murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about your interactions with
Orlando Lopez because the questions would
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment constitutional rights.
Q. Isn't it true that before Jacques
Rivera's arrest, you were told the actual
identity of the person who shot Felix Valentin?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Isn't it true you never pursued that
individual?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you decided to
pursue a case against Jacques Rivera instead of
the real shooter?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights?
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you knew that Jose
Rodriguez was an Imperial Gangster?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that he had been identified
by Felix Valentin, correct?
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facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that he lived on Spaulding
between Wabansia and Armitage, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that the car in which
Valentin's shooter had escaped drove to
Spaulding and then south to Wabansia, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that Imperial Gangsters had a
motive to kill Campbell boys, correct?
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that the Imperial Gangsters
wanted the Campbell boys to join them and the
Campbell boys had refused, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that this was a motive for
Jose Rodriguez to shoot Felix Valentin,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
argumentative, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Nevertheless you decided not to put
Jose Rodriguez in the second line-up because
you wanted Jacques Rivera to be picked,
correct?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you testified at Jacques
Rivera's criminal trial?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. And you gave that testimony on
April 16th, 1990, correct?
MS. EKL: Just to be clear, when you
say that testimony, you're just saying
testimony in general, you're not -MR. SWAMINATHAN: Let me ask it -strike that. I'll ask again.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You gave your testimony at Jacques's
criminal trial on April 16th, 1990, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you were under oath when
you gave that criminal testimony?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence. Well, actually, I'll withdraw
that objection.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you knew Jacques
Rivera had been wrongfully arrested when you
gave that testimony at his criminal trial?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that Jacques Rivera was being
prosecuted for something that he did not do
when you gave that trial at this -- when you
gave that testimony at his criminal trial,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You testified falsely that Jacques had
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not have gold hair at the time of his arrest,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that he did not have any
color in his hair at that time, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In fact, you knew that his hair was
brown, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form. Withdraw
that. Sorry.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about your criminal trial
testimony because answering the questions would
incriminate you?
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you testified falsely
that you saw Jacques Rivera in Humboldt Park on
multiple occasions implicate him in the crime
even though you knew that Jacques Rivera was in
Humboldt Park because he worked there?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true the testimony you gave
under oath at that trial was a lie?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it the case that everything in
that -- isn't it true that your testimony -strike that.
You lied intentionally in order
to make sure that Jacques Rivera was convicted
of a murder he did not commit; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And today you're refusing to answer
questions about whether you provided false
testimony under oath in 1990 by asserting your
right not to incriminate yourself here today?
MS. EKL: Object to the form of the
question and specifically to your use of the
word saying that he refused -- that he's fusing
here today.
Aside from that -THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You understand that any statute of
limitations on perjury that you might have
committed in 1990 has run, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. And is it your position that you still
cannot answer whether the testimony that you
provided during Jacques Rivera's criminal trial
is truthful?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that at the time of your
testimony, you knew that Jacques had not
committed this murder, yet you testified
against him anyway?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about your criminal trial
testimony because answering these questions
would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you knew that
Jacques Rivera had an alibi for August 27th,
1988, the day of the murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that Jacques Rivera was with
his family on August 27th, 1988, correct?
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facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you ignored Jacques
Rivera's alibi when you framed him for shooting
Felix Valentin?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about Jacques Rivera's alibi
because answering the question would
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, isn't it true that you were
questioned about this case by the Cook County
State's Attorney office prior to Mr. Rivera's
exoneration?
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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you helped move
Mr. Lopez to Pennsylvania in the late 1990s?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you moved Orlando Lopez
to Pennsylvania to hide him so he would not
expose your misconduct in this case?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, argumentative.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about your actions after
Mr. Rivera's conviction because answering them
would incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.

BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you've been
questioned about this case by investigators
since Mr. Rivera's exoneration?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you've been questioned
about this case by investigators from the Cook
County State's Attorney office?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you've been questioned
about this case by investigators for the Cook
County State's Attorney office since
Mr. Rivera's exoneration?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you've been questioned
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exoneration?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you've been questioned
about this case by IPRA since Mr. Rivera's
exoneration?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you've been
questioned about this case by lawyers that were
hired by the City of Chicago to investigate
your wrongdoing since Mr. Rivera's exoneration?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, do you regret putting Jacques
Rivera in jail for 24 years for a crime he did
not commit?
MS. EKL: Objection, form,
argumentative, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about your actions after
Mr. Rivera's exoneration because answering
these questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Please tell us every witness you
interviewed while investigating the Valentin
shooting.
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Please tell us every discussion that
you had with fellow Chicago police officers
during the Valentin investigation.
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Please tell us every communication you
had with Orlando Lopez and his family during
the Valentin investigation.
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Please tell us every step that you
took to ensure that the person who really
killed Felix Valentin was brought to justice?
MS. EKL: Objection, form,
argumentative, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Please tell me every fact that
supports your belief that Jacques Rivera shot
Felix Valentin?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions because answering them would
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Isn't it true that you put almost 40
people behind bars wrongfully?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you have particular
techniques that you use to put people behind
bars wrongfully?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. One of those techniques that you use
to put people behind bars, is that you coerce
witnesses to falsely testify under oath; isn't
that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that one of the
techniques you use is to coerce suspects into
confessing a crime you know they did not
commit?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that one of the
techniques you use to put people behind bars
wrongfully is to fabricate evidence including
falsifying police reports?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that one of the ways -you strike that.
Isn't it true that one of the
techniques you use to put people behind bars
wrongfully is to withhold exculpatory evidence
from prosecutors and criminal defendants and
their attorneys?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that one of the
techniques you use to put people behind bars
wrongfully is to manipulate witness
identifications and live line-ups?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. Isn't it true that one of the
techniques that you use to put people behind
bars wrongfully is to perform unduly suggestive
photo identifications?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about techniques you use
because answering those questions would
incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that your supervisors
knew the next techniques that you use to put
people behind bars wrongfully?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your supervisors knew
that you prosecuted people who were innocent?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you received a promotion
to gang crime specialist despite your
supervisors knowing that you prosecuted people
who were innocent?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you received a merit
promotion to detective despite your supervisors
knowing that you prosecuted people who were
innocent?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about your supervisors'
knowledge of your actions because answering the
questions would incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that the case Juan
Johnson versus Reynaldo Guevara and the City of
Chicago ended with a $21 million jury verdict
against you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true the jury found that you
violated Juan Johnson's constitutional rights
in causing him to be convicted of a crime he
did commit?
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true Steve Gawrys was your
partner at the time of the investigation that
led to Juan Johnson's wrongful conviction?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you testified in
that case that you and Gawrys participated in
all aspects of that investigation together?
MS. EKL: Just to be clear, you're
talking about the civil case, Johnson versus
Guevara?
MR. ART: No. 5 C 1042.
MS. EKL: Clarifying whether you're
talking about the civil case or criminal case.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you testified twice
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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true the first time you
testified was in a deposition on March 9th,
2007?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you committed perjury
when you testified on March 9th, 2007 in
Johnson versus Guevara?
MS. EKL: Objection, calls for a legal
conclusion.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You testified a second time -- strike
that.
You testified a second time in
Johnson versus Guevara at trial on June 8th,
2009, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. And that testimony was in open court
in front of a jury, correct?

A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. And you committed perjury the second
time you testified as well, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, calls for a legal
conclusion, and also assumes facts not in
evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You lied under oath when you testified
that second time at trial on June 8th, 2009 in
Johnson versus Guevara, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You lied under oath when you testified
in a deposition on March 9th, 2007 in Johnson
versus Guevara, correct?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you intentionally framed
Juan Johnson for a crime he did not commit?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, isn't it true a few months before
you were promoted to detective, you located
witnesses to a month-old homicide that had
occurred?
MS. EKL: I'm sorry. Can you repeat
that. You faded off at the end.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Sure.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, a few months before you were
promoted to detective, you located witnesses to
a month-old homicide; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague,
foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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question involved two cars, a man was driving
his cousin and was shot by a passing car, and
the man who was driving was killed, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you became a
detective in August of 1990?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you brought two men in
who purportedly had a license plate number?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you found a photograph
of the person matching the license plate number
in your police file?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you endorsed, put that
photo with -- put that photo together with six
to eight other photos?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that in that case,
Dorsch was in charge of the ID procedure but
you were in the room?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that both of the
witnesses in that case were young boys?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague, assumes facts not in evidence.
Counsel, could we at least get a

date that you're referring to or a name of a
person, some kind of point of reference?
MR. ART: We're talking about an
investigation of few months prior to August
of 1990.
MS. EKL: Right. Could we get a date
or a name of these people, anything specific
regarding -- you keep saying this investigation
and there's been no -- no anything put into the
record about what you're asking about.
MR. ART: I mean, that's the
investigation that the events we're talking
about occurred a few months prior to August of
1990. It's the investigation Dorsch testified
about at the Solache hearing, which I think
you're familiar with; if not, your client is.
MS. EKL: Well, Mr. Dorsch did not
provide any details about any specifics either.
So in order for my client to answer a question,
whether he was answering as taking the Fifth or
answering as -- you know, responding to the
question with some other type of an answer, he
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And right now your question is,
is there an investigation where he was the
investigator that happened some time before he
became a detective, and it's too vague.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: I can ask him the
question. If he believes the question is too
vague, or he doesn't remember the answer to the
question, he can tell me he doesn't remember
that or -MS. EKL: So if you don't have any
other details to provide, that's fine. But I'm
just asking that you provide details so there's
some kind of context so that we have -- we can
all know what it is that you're talking about.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, when did you become a detective?
MS. EKL: You've already asked that
question; asked and answered.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. For purposes of these questions, I'm
asking you -- I would like you to focus on the
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that you became a detective.
And we're talking specifically
about an investigation involving Officer
Dorsch.
Now, with regard to the questions
that I've asked you previously, to follow on
those questions, isn't it true that you -- that
there were two witnesses who participated in an
identification procedure and those two
witnesses were young boys?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
completely vague as to an investigation
involving two witnesses and an identification,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that the first boy could
not make an identification?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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Q. Isn't it true you pointed to a photo
and told him that that photo was the suspect?
MS. EKL: Objection form, foundation,
vague as to who you're referring to, and
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you said, quote, that's
the guy, unquote, and the kid picked that
photograph?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague as to who the kid is and what incident
you're referring to, assumes facts not in
evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Officer Dorsch then
ordered you to leave the room with the boy you
had manipulated into picking the suspect photo?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, vague as to who
the boy is.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that the second boy did
not make any identification?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague as to who the second boy is.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you then performed
a physical line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, vague as to
date, as to what incident you're referring to.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true in the physical line-up,
the first boy who you had coached picked the
suspect?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, vague as to what
boy, what line-up, what investigation.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true in the end, Officer
Dorsch got the charges dropped when he learned
that the boys had been paid to identify wrong
guy?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, vague as to the
boy, the investigation, or any other details of
what case you're referring to.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that in this case, you
were responsible -- that you were nearly
responsible for the wrongful conviction for
murder based on a photo manipulation and live
line-up manipulation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
compound, assumes facts not in evidence, vague
as to what investigation, what murder -- almost
murder conviction you're referring to.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you remember the
events and the incident that I am talking about
involving Officer Dorsch in the period shortly
before you became detective?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about events involving
Officer Dorsch and an investigation that took
place in the period before you became detective
because answering these questions would
incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, is it your intention to deprive
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asserting your Fifth Amendment right?
MS. EKL: Counsel, at this point I'm
going to object to you asking these questions
that are vague. You're asking him questions
that no person can possibly answer -- provide
answers to. There's -- you're providing no
details of anything.
It's, were you involved in some
investigation at a point in time that spanned
about two years or two months or whatever it
was.
It's an unfair question, it's
harassing, and my client shouldn't have to
answer questions about some vague, unknown
investigation. And if the line of questioning
is going to continue like that for the next
several hours, then we're going to leave.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Well, certainly
we're going to be moving on shortly but are you
instructing him not to answer this particular
question?
MS. EKL: This question as to whether
or not he's trying to obstruct your client, how
can he be obstructing your client from gaining

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Q. Sir, do you know the former police
officer Joe Miedzianowski?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering this question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any questions about Joe
Miedzianowski?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Let me -- I'll ask
it again.
MS. EKL: You can answer the question
as to whether or not you assert your Fifth
Amendment rights to any questions regarding Joe
Miedzianowski?
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. EKL: Counsel, I just want to put
on the record a standard objection to your
question about whether or not he is answering
-- whether or not he's asserting his Fifth
Amendment right because certain questions would
incriminate him, when answering that very
question would implicate his Fifth Amendment
rights, when you know full well that he has a
right to assert the Fifth Amendment for reasons
other than just that it would -- sorry -- for
reasons other than it would -- strike that.
It's the end of the day. I'll raise it again.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, you're aware that Joe
Miedzianowski has been convicted as part of a
drug conspiracy during which he abused his
position as a Chicago police officer, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition Exhibit
No. 12 was marked for
identification.)
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Q. You're aware that he was sentenced to
life in prison, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You're aware that -- strike that.
And you know that Miedzianowski's
misconduct led to the break up of the Gang
Crimes Unit of the Chicago Police Department,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. What I'm handing you is a document
marked Plaintiff's Exhibit 12. It's Bates
stamped Bluhm, B-l-u-h-m, 41072 through
41088 -- sorry, through 41086.
Sir, are you familiar with this
document?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any questions I ask about Plaintiff's

Exhibit 12?
MS. EKL: You can answer that.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering the
question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. EKL: And, Counsel, just following
up on my objection before. What I intended to
say was your question about whether or not he's
doing so because these questions would tend to
incriminate him is an unfair question because
he's entitled to assert his Fifth Amendment
rights, not only for questions that would tend
to incriminate him, but also that would provide
answers that could be used as a causal link to
incriminating evidence or to be used against
him in some kind of a criminal prosecution.
And it's unfair question because
in order to answer it, other than asserting his
Fifth Amendment rights, he would be waiving
those rights. So I just have a standing
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MR. SWAMINATHAN: All right.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, Plaintiff's Exhibit 12 is FBI
Form 302 report memorializing an interview with
Mohamed Omar at the U.S. Attorney's office in
Chicago on June 20th and June 21st, 2001.
Sir, do you know Mohamed Omar?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. I'm going to ask you to turn your
attention to Page 5 of the report. The first
full paragraph of the report states, Omar paid
Miedzianowski $10,000 in the basement of the
police station located -MS. EKL: I'm sorry. Counsel, what's
indicated at Page 5 at the top isn't what
you're reading.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: What did I say?
It's the full paragraph, it's Bates
stamped 41076, first full paragraph. The
paragraph begins, Miedzianowski later lent
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that the paragraph?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Yep. Later met
Omar. It's the second to the last sentence of
that paragraph.
MS. EKL: Okay.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In the first full paragraph, second to
the last sentence it reads, Omar paid
Miedzianowski $10,000 in the basement of the
police station located at Belmont and Western;
do you see that, sir?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, were you aware of this payment by
a known drug dealer to a Chicago police
officer?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, isn't it true you participated in
drug shake-downs with Miedzianowski?
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Q. Isn't it true that you paid drug
dealers?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you made sure that
charges were dropped in exchange for payment?
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Guevara had a reputation for,
quote, unquote, messing with gang members.

Guevara's, quote, policy, unquote, was to catch
a person with drugs or guns, but let them buy
their way out of trouble.
Guevara allegedly took whatever
money or guns he found or demanded payment if
the individual had no cash on hand. Guevara
was also said to have accepted bribes to change
positive or negative identifications during
line-ups for murder cases.
Do you see that paragraph, sir?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you had a
reputation in Humboldt Park prior to 1988 of
messing with gang members?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you continued to mess
with gang members throughout your career with
the Chicago Police Department?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. Isn't it true you had a practice of
catching, stopping or arresting individuals
with guns or drugs and telling them they could
buy their way out of trouble?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you accepted cash in
exchange for dropping charges and
investigations?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you accepted cash in
exchange for releasing people from custody?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you accepted guns in
exchange for dropping charges and releasing
people from custody?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you had shaked down
individuals for money and valuables?
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you accepted bribes in
exchange for your agreement changing the
results of live line-ups?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you accepted bribes in
exchange for your agreement to change the
results of live line-ups prior to 1988?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you did the same
thing in Jacques Rivera's case?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a practice of
accepting bribes in exchange for your
agreement -- strike that.
Isn't it true that you accepted
bribes in exchange for an agreement to change
the outcome of photo identification arrays?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you had a practice of
accepting bribes in exchange for an agreement
to change the outcome of photo identification
arrays?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that just like it says
in the FBI report, you accepted these payments
and manipulated line-ups this way particularly
in murder cases?
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you accepted these
bribes from rival gang members who wished to
implicate others for crimes that they had
committed?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you accepted these
bribes from criminal defense lawyers?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you accepted these
bribes from other police officers?

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Let's start with that paragraph
in its entirety, the first full paragraph.

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was represented by Boyke who made a telephone

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call to Guevara. A. Omar paid Boyke an

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additional $20,000 and the case was

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
I object to your reading a portion of this

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friends with the Attorney Boyke?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
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murder suspect in exchange for a $20,000

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payment?

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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or 1988, for murder. Marcos D paid Boyke
$20,000 and beat the case. This story is true
as well, isn't it?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
mischaracterizes the nature of the report. I
object to you reading the report into the
record and assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And this is an instance in which you
were paid an additional $20,000 apart from the
Abraham Omar case to get rid of the case
against the second murder suspect; isn't that
true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence, and
mischaracterizes what the paragraph itself
says.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that the actual
perpetrator of the Valentin shooting paid you

to let them go in that investigation as well?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence. Has -- well,
strike that.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were paid to put the
charges on Jacques Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
Counsel, I suspect, or I hope
that you have a good faith basis for asking
these questions and you're not just speculating
because you do have -- you understand
Mr. Guevara is here today, he's sitting and
answering questions and asserting his Fifth
Amendment rights, but you have a duty to ask
questions in good faith to which you have some
basis for believing that there might be some
truth to them.
But if you're just making things
up so that he'll assert the Fifth so that you
can later try to put that in a front of a jury

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and get an adverse inference, I believe that
that's goes beyond just an improper question
and that that's unethical.
So I'm just putting that out
there now; that if we need to, we'll raise the
appropriate objections in front of a court.
But I'm just putting you on notice now that we
intend to do so if there is absolutely -- if
these questions have no basis.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Our questions are
brought -- just for the record, I have no
problem with you raising the objection that
you're raising. You'll have whatever debate we
have to have down the road.
Our questions are being asked in
good faith based on a very thorough review of a
whole lot of records, all of which have been
shared with defendants. And after a very
thorough investigation and we have given months
and months of time for all sides to spend time
reviewing those records and those records form
a good faith basis for the investigation that
we're doing and the questions that we're
asking.

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MS. EKL: Okay. Well, Counsel, I'm
not aware of any documents in all of the
documents that have been tendered in this case
to indicate that Mr. Guevara was paid any money
in relation to this case and in relation to
anything that took place in the investigation.
Not stating an opinion as to
whether or not there's a truth to that or not,
but just the mere fact there's not even an
allegation that I'm aware of anywhere in the
documents regarding the Valentin investigation
and Mr. Guevara being paid.
So if there are documents like
that that have not been tendered, I ask that
you tender those immediately because I know
they would fall under one of our discovery
requests.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: I'll be very clear.
We are asking these questions in good faith
based on a very thorough investigation of past
incidents and past events. All right.
And whatever debate you want to
have down the road about whether the questions
we're asking were in good faith and appropriate

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just go back for one moment.
With regard to my prior sets of
questions regarding Plaintiff's Exhibit 12, are
you pleading the Fifth with regard to my
questions about Plaintiff's Exhibit 12 because
answering those questions would incriminate
you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. All right. Sorry about that. Now
returning back to my questions.
I just asked you a question about
the investigation of the shooting of Amy Merkes
and Jorge Rodriguez in September 1994.
Do you intend to plead the Fifth
on any questions about this investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering questions about this investigation
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to be used in any specific form and fashion in
the context of evidence in this case, we will
have that debate.
MS. EKL: But, Counsel, my objection
is to your asking questions about him being
paid in this case, in the Valentin
investigation, because there has been no
evidence to date, that I'm aware of, of anyone
making that reference or suggestion or
inference or implications.
So the mere fact that you have
documents about other people making allegations
in other cases I don't believe provides
sufficient basis for you to ask those questions
in this case.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: I understand your
objection.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, were you involved in
investigating the shooting of Amy Merkes and
Jorge Rodriguez in September of 1994?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Strike that. That's fine. But let me

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you framed Roberto
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Rutherford, McDonald, Troken, and others?

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
Are you still referring to the
to highlight how
Almodovar Important
case?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Yes.
MS. EKL: Same objection.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you manipulated witness
identifications and live line-ups during this
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you performed unduly
suggestive photo identification during this
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investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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photos
were MS.
obtained
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you showed Jackie Grand photos of Roberto
Almodovar and William Negron and told her,
quote, those were the guys who did it, unquote,
or words to that effect?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you told Kennelly
Saez not to mention that you showed him photos
before the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you showed Kennelly
Saez photos of Roberto Almodovar and William
Negron and told him those were the individuals
responsible for death of Merkes and Rodriguez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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shooting?

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assumes facts not in evidence.
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, didn't you testify in the trial
of Robert Almodovar and William Negron in
November of 1995?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. And did you give false testimony in
that trial?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, are you asserting your Fifth
Amendment right not to incriminate yourself
regarding these questions I've asked you about
this investigation, the investigation involving
Robert Almodovar and William Negron because
answering those questions would incriminate
you?

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Q. Sir, were you involved in

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: When I refer to this
investigation, I'll be referring to the Charles

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investigation?

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answering the question would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.

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investigation?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true -- strike that.
Isn't it true that you attempted
to frame Charles Ellison and Angel Gaya in
conspiracy with Officers Halvorsen, Brendan and
Mason?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you coerced Maria
Rivera into making a false identification of
Charles Ellison and Angel Gaya in two separate
line-ups?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you coerced Maria Rivera
in two separate line-ups but unzipping your
pants and propositioning her?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Isn't it true that you knew Maria
Rivera had not seen anyone's face and yet you
had her make false identifications?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true the prosecution later
abandoned murder charges against Ellison?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you coerced Maria Rivera
into making false identifications?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you fabricated evidence,
including falsifying police reports, in
connection with this investigation?

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you withhold exculpatory evidence
from prosecutors, criminal defendants and their
attorneys?
MS. EKL: In relation to this
investigation?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: In relation to this
investigation. Thank you.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you perform unduly suggestive
photo identifications during the
investigation -- during this investigation?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, are you asserting your Fifth
Amendment right not to incriminate yourself for
these questions regarding the Charles Ellison
and Angel Gaya investigation because doing so
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, were you involved in

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: And for purposes of
my following questions, this investigation is

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murder.

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to speed it up, but I think maybe you should

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say the Rhodes investigation just so that the

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record is clear, because if we keep saying this

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investigation, it may cause issues. So it will

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be better just to refer to the victim's name.

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clarification. So we'll call this the Rhodes

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investigation. I guess that sometimes we may

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Q. Isn't it true that you coerced Scott
Thurmond to falsely testify under oath in the
Rhodes investigation?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you framed Johnny
Flores in conspiracy with Officers Paulnitsky
and Villareal?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you fabricated evidence,
including falsifying police reports in
connection with the Rhodes investigation?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you withheld exculpatory
evidence from prosecutors and their attorneys
in the Rhodes investigation?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you manipulated witness
identification and live line-ups during the
Rhodes investigation?
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Q. For purposes of the following
questions, I'm going to be referring to the
Rhodes investigation. And let me just ask the
question one more.
Were you -- weren't you involved
in investigating the murder of Jeffrey Rhodes
in November of 1989?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth on
any questions regarding the Rhodes
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering questions about the Rhodes
investigation would incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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suggestive photo identification during the

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Rhodes investigation?

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you conducted a line-up

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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that Scott Thurmond

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participants in the line-up?

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. Isn't it true there were multiple
line-ups in that case?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that there were no
photographs taken at the first line-up on March
31st, 1990?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that on April 30th, 1990
Officer Paulnitsky claimed that he spoke with
Thurmond by phone, and Thurmond allegedly said
that he had seen the assailant and it was the
person in the No. 4 spot in the line-up, Johnny
Flores, but that wasn't true; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.

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Q. Isn't it true that you told Thurmond
who to choose from the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true on April 4th, 1990, you
showed Thurmond another line-up and you told
him who to choose?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, are you asserting your Fifth
Amendment right not to incriminate yourself in
response to any questions regarding the Johnny
Flores investigation -- the Rhodes
investigation?
MS. EKL: You can answer that.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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Q. On April 3rd, 1990, isn't it true that
Officer Paulnitsky claims that Thurmond spoke
with him by phone and Thurmond allegedly said
that he had seen the assailant and it was the
person in the No. 4 spot in the line-up, Johnny
Flores, but that wasn't true, is it?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that a second line-up
was conducted on April 4th, 1990 at Area Five
and Flores was the only person who had been in
the previous line-up that was in the second
line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you withheld exculpatory
evidence from prosecutors and criminal
defendants and their attorneys?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you attempted to
manipulate witness identifications and live
line-ups during the investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that on June 13th, 1997,
you hit Ariel Gomez in the face during the Diaz
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, objection,
foundation, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you conspired with
other Chicago police officers during the Diaz
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you interviewed

Ruth Antonetti during the Diaz investigation
and she told you that she only witnessed one
shot from the vehicle Ariel Gomez was in,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you took Ruth
Antonetti to the window of a room where
Ms. Gomez (sic) was sitting and told her,
quote, this was the guy who shot at her, or
something like that to that effect?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Ruth Antonetti
refused to tell you that Ariel Gomez was
Mr. Diaz's shooter?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you told her that
you were sure this was the guy who shot at her
and committed the murder of Mr. Diaz?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Ruth Antonetti told
you that she had heard two or three gunshots
that did not come from Ariel Gomez's vehicle,
or something it that effect?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you told her that
that was bullshit and that you knew the shots
came from Gomez's vehicle?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that when Ruth Antonetti
said she would not identify anyone she was not
sure of, you told her you, quote, did not need
her because you had enough witnesses?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you never reported the
substance of that conversation with Ruth
Antonetti in any police report?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that on June 13th, 1997,
you also spoke with Maria Castro about the
killing of Conception Diaz?

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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you told Maria Castro
this Ariel Gomez was the shooter?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you didn't record what
Maria Castro told you about the number of shots
fired?
MS. EKL: Are you saying Maria or
Marian?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Maria.
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You also didn't record what Maria

Castro told you about the direction of the
shots fired, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that on June 13th, 1997,
you also spoke with Debbie Daniels about the
killing of Conception Diaz?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you didn't record what
Debbie Daniels told you about the number of
shots fired?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't is it true that you destroyed an
ammunition clip found at the crime scene where
Conception Diaz was shot?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you destroyed this gun
clip because it would provide exculpatory
evidence for Mr. Gomez whom you decided to
frame for killing Mr. Diaz?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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the ammunition clip was, quote, unquote, lost,
in police reports?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you called Ariel
Gomez's mother on the phone and told her that
her son was going to prison forever?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
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Q. Isn't it true you threatened
Mr. Gomez's mother on the phone because you did
not want her to report seeing Mr. Gomez
pleading into the police station?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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assumes facts not in evidence.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that on July 28th,
1988 -- strike that.
Isn't it true that on July 28th,
1998 you testified at the trial of Ariel Gomez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form -- strike
that.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. During that trial you provided false
testimony regarding your investigation of
Conception Diaz's murder, your investigation of
the crime, your intimidation of witnesses and
other facts related to Mr. Gomez being a
suspect for the shooting, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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involving the Diaz investigation because
answering those questions would incriminate
yourself?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, were you involved in
investigating the murder of Rosendo and Juan
Hernandez in and around -- sorry. Strike that.
Were you involved in
investigating the murder of Jorge Gonzalez in
and around June of 1997?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth with
regard to any questions about the Jorge
Gonzalez investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. EKL: Actually, you can answer
that question to the extent you can with it
being vague, you can still answer it.
THE WITNESS: Yes, I can.

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Do you intend to plead the Fifth
-- let me ask it again.
Do you intend to plead the Fifth
with regard to any questions about the Jorge
Gonzalez investigation in and around June
of 1997?
MS. EKL: Same objection, vague, form.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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Q. Is that because answering
the question
would incriminate yourself?
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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you fabricated evidence,
including falsifying police reports in
connection with the Jorge Gonzalez
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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and their attorneys in the Jorge Gonzalez
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you manipulated witness
identifications and live line-ups during the
Jorge Gonzalez investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't is it true you performed unduly
suggestive photo identifications during the
Jorge Gonzalez investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you deliberately created
a suggestive line-up in order to frame Rosendo

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth on
any questions about the investigation of
Jacqueline Montanez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
but you can answer.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering the
question would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you fabricated evidence
including falsifying police reports in
connection with the investigation of Montanez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you manipulated witness
investigations and live line-ups during the
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you performed an unduly
suggestive photo identification during your
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you withheld exculpatory
evidence from prosecutors, criminal defendants
and their attorneys as part of the Montanez
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you framed
Jacqueline Montanez in conspiracy with Officer
Halvorsen?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you coerced one or more
witnesses to falsely testify under oath in the
Montanez investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you interrogated
juvenile Jacqueline Montanez without a youth
officer present?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that it was your
standard practice to interrogate juveniles
without a youth officer present?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about the Montanez
investigation because answering the questions
would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, were you involved in
investigating the murder of Marlon Wade in and
around October of 1989?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth on
any questions about the investigation of the
murder of Marlon Wade?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
vague; you can answer.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you coerced one or
more witnesses to falsely testify under oath in
the Wade investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you coerced
Virgilio Muniz into making a false
identification?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you fabricated evidence,
including falsifying police reports in
connection with the Wade investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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and their attorneys in the Wade investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you manipulated witness
identifications and live line-ups during the
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you performed unduly
suggestive photo identification during the Wade
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you told Mr. Muniz

to pick out Manuel Rivera by showing Mr. Muniz
a photograph of Mr. Rivera and saying this is
the person who killed Marlon Wade?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you framed Manuel
Rivera in conspiracy with Officer Gawrys and
Officer Zacharias?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you also framed Manuel
Rivera in conspiracy with Officers Guerrero,
Villardita and Vukonich and Halvorsen?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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Muniz that if he did not identify Manuel Rivera
as the murder of Marlon Wade, Muniz himself
would be charged with the murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you showed Muniz photos,
pointed at Manuel Rivera and told Muniz to
select Rivera as the shooter?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you exerted extreme
pressure on Muniz until he identified Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Officer Villardita showed Muniz photos, pointed
at Manuel Rivera and told Muniz that he should
select Rivera as the shooter?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you asserting your Fifth Amendment
rights with regard to all the questions about
the Wade investigation because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, were you involved in
investigating the murder of Anthony Hawkins in
or around July of 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth on
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-- strike that.
Do you intend to plead the Fifth
on any questions regarding the Anthony Hawkins
murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague; you
can answer that question.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you do so because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you fabricated evidence,
including falsifying police reports in
connection with the investigation of the
Hawkins murder?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you withheld exculpatory
evidence from prosecutors, criminal defendants
and their attorneys during the Hawkins
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you manipulated
witness identifications and live line-ups
during the Hawkins investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you performed unduly
suggestive photo identifications during the
Hawkins investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you framed Adolfo
Rosario for the Hawkins murder in connection
with other Chicago police officers?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. EKL: Counsel, how do spell the
last name on that one?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Rosario?
MS. EKL: Adolfo?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Adolfo Rosario,
R-o-s-a-r-i-o.
MS. EKL: Thank you.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you conducted at least
one line-up in that case on July 15th, 1988?
MS. EKL: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Adolfo Rosario was
part of that line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you put Adolfo Rosario
in that line-up without any probable cause?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you arrested Adolfo
Rosario about a month before you took steps to
implicate him in the Hawkins murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that when you arrested
Mr. Rosario, you placed a red X on his hand?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that when you placed
Mr. Rosario in the line-up, you took steps to
make the line-up unduly suggestive in order to
ensure that Adolfo Rosario would stand out and
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Q. Isn't it true that you placed a red X
on Mr. Rosario's hand to signify to witnesses
that they should select him from the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Mr. Rosario was the
only person in the line-up with a red X on his
hand?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Mr. Rosario was the
only person in the line-up with short -- that
all the people in the line-up had short hair
while Mr. Rosario had long hair?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that the line-up that
you had Adolfo Rosario participate in was
unduly suggestive because Mr. Rosario's attire
was very different from the attire of the other
individuals in the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that before Mr. Rosario
was in the line-up regarding the Hawkins
murder, you rewrote the red X that you had
previously placed on his hand?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. Isn't it true you fabricated evidence,
including falsifying police reports in
connection with the investigation of the Jose
Garcia murder?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you withheld exculpatory
evidence from prosecutors, criminal defendants,
and their attorneys during the Jose Garcia
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you manipulated witness
identifications and live line-ups during the
Jose Garcia investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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Garcia investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you coerced Isidro
Quinones to falsely identify Eruby Abrego?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you coerced Fred
Marrero to falsely identify Eruby Abrego?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you coerced Ramon Torres
to falsely ID Eruby Abrego?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,

assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you coerced Lugo, an
individual named Lugo, to falsely ID Eruby
Abrego?
MS. EKL: What was the name on that?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Lugo, L-u-g-o.
MS. EKL: That's the whole name?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Yeah.
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't is it true you tried to coerce
Eruby Abrego into giving a false confession?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you attempted to frame
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Detective Wojcik
beat up Eruby Abrego very badly?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were present
when Detective Wojcik beat up Abrego?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Abrego was spitting
up blood after his beating?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that in that case, you
interviewed Isidro Quinones, Fred Marrero,
Ramon Torres and Lugo? Strike that.
Isn't it true in that case that
you interviewed a number of witnesses, but
signed Detective Ernest Halvorsen's name on
Eruby Abrego
your police report?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you knew that Jason
Rodriguez was the shooter, not Eruby Abrego?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you took steps to
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment
constitutional rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Nicasio Santiago
told that you Rodriguez was the shooter and not
Eruby Abrego?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you created police
reports containing false information in the
case?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you knew that Eruby

Abrego didn't match the description of the
perpetrator of the Garcia homicide, but
nonetheless took steps to implicate and ensure
the conviction of Mr. Abrego?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you knew that
eyewitnesses described the shooter as being
5'10" tall with dark complexion?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you knew Eruby Abrego was 5'4"
inches with light complexion, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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witnesses to get them to select Eruby Abrego
from the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You told Isidro Quinones, Ramon Torres
and Fred Marrero to choose Eruby Abrego in the
line-up, didn't you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew that Eruby Abrego's will was
eventually overcome by being beaten and that he
gave a false confession, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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of questioning regarding a victim by the name
of Jose Garcia and a suspect by the name of
Abrego? Have you provided documents regarding
this investigation?
MR. ART: I believe so. We have
definitely brought in every document that we
have regarding this investigation.
MS. EKL: Okay. It's very possible
that I'm just not familiar with this particular
one. I know that we've received evidence
regarding other people, or at least the names
listed, but these names have not even appeared
on any disclosures to us.
MR. ART: I believe we provided the
documents. I'm not positive as I sit here. We
provided all the documents that we do have in
our possession.
MS. EKL: Okay.
MR. ART: I guess that's all I can say
at this point.
MS. EKL: Okay.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, were you involved in the
investigation of a crime in which Jose Cruz was

a suspect?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you conducted a
suggestive line-up to implicate Jose Cruz?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you put Jose Cruz
on a phonebook to make him look taller during a
line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you attempted to
frame Jose Cruz in conspiracy with Officers
Ferrari, Mingey, Wojcik, Riccio, McDonald and
Gawrys?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you fabricated evidence,
including falsifying police reports in
connection with the investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you withheld exculpatory
evidence from prosecutors, criminal defendants
and their attorneys during the Cruz
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you manipulated witness
identifications and live line-ups during the
Cruz investigation?
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Q. Isn't it true you performed unduly
photo identifications during the Cruz
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you asserting the Fifth Amendment
with regard to my questions about the Cruz
investigation because answering the questions
would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, were you involved in
investigating -- strike that.
Sir, were you involved
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you withheld exculpatory
evidence from prosecutors criminal defendants
and their attorneys during the investigation of
the Delgado murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't is it true you manipulated
witness identifications and live line-ups
during the investigation of the Delgado murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you performed unduly
suggestive photo identifications during the
investigation of the Delgado murder?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you conspired -- isn't
it true you conspired with other Chicago police
officers to frame Anthony Rosario?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you -- strike that.
Isn't it true that you showed
photos of Gonzalo Delgado to others in that
case?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Anthony Rosario's
name was written on the back of the photo that
you showed Gonzalo Delgado.
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you conducted
line-ups in that case?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you interviewed
witnesses in relation to the Francisco Delgado
homicide case?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You disregarded and failed to report
information demonstrating that Anthony Rosario
was not the one who committed the crime based
on those interviews with witnesses?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.

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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you singled out and
targeted Anthony Rosario for the Delgado
homicide even though you had no evidence or
other facts to support probable cause
identifying Anthony Rosario as a suspect?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that this was not the
first time you that maliciously prosecuted
Anthony Rosario?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you knew Anthony
Rosario for many years in part because you knew
his stepfather who was a Chicago police

officer?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you had arrested
Anthony Rosario when he was a minor?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that your first attempt
to falsely implicate Anthony Rosario for a
crime failed when the State -- when the State
dismissed the charges against him because an
adult, not a young minor, had undisputedly
committed the crime?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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correct?
MS. EKL: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In that proceeding, you provided false
testimony in order to secure the conviction of
Anthony Rosario, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you asserting the Fifth with
regard to any questions about the Francisco
Delgado killing because answering those
questions would incriminate you?
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, were you involved in
investigating a crime -- strike that.
Were you involved in
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth on
any questions about the investigation of the
Danny Garcia killing?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague; you can answer.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the questions about this
investigation would incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you fabricated evidence,
including falsifying police reports in
connection with the investigation of the Danny
Garcia killing?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.

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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you coerced Esteban
Rodriguez, Jesus Fuentes, Margarita Casiana and
Melanie Parker to falsely testify under oath?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you told Esteban
Rodriguez to identify Johnny Martinez in a
line-up as one of the men responsible for the
death of Daniel Garcia?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you -- that on
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you withheld exculpatory
evidence for prosecutors, criminal defendants
and their attorneys during the Daniel Garcia
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you manipulated
witness identifications and live line-ups
during the investigation, the Danny Garcia
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you performed unduly
suggestive photo identifications during the
Daniel Garcia investigation?

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details about the killing of Daniel Garcia?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

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to persuade him to identify Johnny Martinez as

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one of the men responsible for the death of

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men responsible for the death of Mr. Garcia?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you included the
additional details that you fed to Esteban
Rodriguez in a police report to make it seem as
if Mr. Rodriguez had given you those details
when, in fact, you provided them to him?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you coerced Melanie
Parker to identify Johnny Martinez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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initially viewed photos as part of the
investigation of the murder of Daniel Garcia,
she made no identification?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you intentionally
refused to document that fact?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that your standard
operating procedure is never recording an
instance where a suspect is not identified in a
line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
also asked and answered.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Isn't it true that after she failed to
identify Johnny Martinez, Melanie Parker
expressed an intention to not speak with you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were determined
to get Melanie Parker to provide an
incriminating identification of Johnny
Martinez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you offered Melanie
Parker a deal to get her to falsely implicate
Johnny Martinez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.

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Q. Isn't it true that you told Melanie
Parker that you knew of her outstanding warrant
and that this warrant would be quashed if she
identified the people involved in the killing
of Danny Garcia?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Melanie Parker then
identified Johnny Martinez as one of the men
responsible for the death of Daniel Garcia?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that on February 7th,
8th and 9th, 1999, you denied Johnny Martinez
food and drink while he was detained at the
police station?
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true on February 7th, 8th and
9th, you coerced Johnny Martinez into signing a
false statement by promising him that he would
not be charged with the murder of Danny Garcia?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you asserting your Fifth Amendment
rights not to incriminate yourself -- strike
that.
Are you asserting your Fifth
Amendment rights with regard to all questions
about the Danny Garcia investigation because
answering the questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, were you involved in
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around July of 1995?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Do you intend to plead the Fifth on
any investigation about the murder of Jamie
Alvarez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague; you can answer.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering questions about the Jamie Alvarez
murder will incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague,
foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you fabricated evidence,
including falsifying police reports in
connection with the investigation of Jamie -in connection with the Jamie Alvarez
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you withheld exculpatory
evidence from prosecutors, criminal defendants
and their attorneys during the Jamie Alvarez
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you manipulated witness
identifications and live line-ups during the
Jamie Alvarez investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you performed unduly
suggestive photo identifications during the
Jamie Alvarez investigation?
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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you framed Edwin
Davila for the murder of Jamie Alvarez?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you interrogated
Edwin Davila on July 2nd, 1995 and handcuffed
him to a wall?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
Did you say Edwin or Edgar?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Edwin.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you told him,
quote, you may have beat your last murder, but
you're not going to get out of this one?

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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you conducted an unduly
suggestive line-up by having only Davila turn
all the way around during the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment right.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you tried to coerce
Edwin Davila into confessing to the crime?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you asserting the Fifth with
regard to my questions regarding Edwin Davila
because answering those questions would
incriminate you?

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, did you receive any training when
you joined the Chicago Police Department in
1973?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Were you in a 10-week training course?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Was it a basic training course?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, did you have training in
detective school when you became a detective in
1990?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you have training on conducting
line-ups?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you have training on
interrogations?

A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Apart from basic training in 1973,
what training had you had from the Chicago
Police Department prior to August of 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that basic training is
the only training that you had before 1988?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You did not receive written policies
and procedures from the Chicago Police
Department, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. As a matter of practice, you did not
review written policies and procedures from the
Chicago Police Department between 1973 and
1988, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. With regard to witness interviews and
interrogations, you were never trained that you

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need to refrain from manipulating witnesses,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You were never trained that you need
to take extra care when you have children as a
witness, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You were not trained that children are
most vulnerable, correct?
MS. BARBER: Objection, form, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were not trained that the parents
should be present when children are questioned,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You were not trained about the dangers
of manipulating child witnesses, correct?
MS. BARBER: Objection, form, vague.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were not trained to be
particularly careful about sharing crime scene
facts with child witnesses, correct?
MS. BARBER: Objection, form, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were not trained about using force
during interrogations, correct?
MS. BARBER: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you often used force
during interrogations?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you often used force to
coerce witnesses to make false identifications?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.

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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you often use threats of
violence to coerce witnesses to make false
identifications?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you did not have any
training about how to select fillers so that
line-ups would not unduly suggestive?
MS. BARBER: Objection, form, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were not trained to
select fillers that would ensure that line-ups
were not suggestive?
MS. BARBER: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. Isn't it true you often selected
fillers to make it obvious who the suspect was
in a particular line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
MS. BARBER: Join in those objections.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did not have any training about
limiting the number of suspects in a line-up to
one, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You did not have any training about
documenting line-ups, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you never documented the
result of a line-up if a witness picked a
filler or non-suspect?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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Q. Isn't it true you were trained only to
document line-ups where suspects were picked,
and line-ups where a witness was unable to pick
anyone?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you did not receive any
training in photo identifications?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true your training in photo
identifications was limited to the fact that
the people in the photos should look alike?
MS. BARBER: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you routinely failed to
follow that limited training?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. Isn't it true you routinely showed
witnesses single photos of suspects?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you routinely showed
witnesses single photos of suspects and falsely
reported that you were showing the witnesses
multiple photos?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You routinely pointed out to witnesses
with (sic) photos to select from a photo array?
MS. EKL: Objection, form.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Strike that. I'll
strike that.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You routinely pointed out to witnesses
which photos to select from a photo array,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.

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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You would not let people flip through
these photo books on their own, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you often took gang
photo books used for identifications out onto
the street even though they were not supposed
to be removed from the police station?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
compound.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that this was your
practice?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you routinely used old
Gang
books. toRG would
mugshots to suggest
identification
witnesses?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you would make your own
gang photo books with people that you wanted to
see arrested?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
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street undermines their evidentiary value?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that gang books were not
own? to leave the station without a
supposed
subpoena from the state's attorney office?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were trained
that police reports are the official records of
the case?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you were not
trained by your obligations under the
constitution about exculpatory evidence?
MS. BARBER: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were trained to
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about your obligation under the constitution to
disclose exculpatory evidence?
MS. EKL: Objection, asked and
answered.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney -BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true -MS. EKL: He's answering.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Sorry.
THE WITNESS: -- I assert my Fifth
Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were not
trained about your obligation under the
constitution to disclose exculpatory evidence?
MS. EKL: Objection, asked and
answered.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were trained that
police reports must include all important
investigation?

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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you were trained
that police reports are evidence?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you were trained
that police reports must be accurate?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you were trained on
the responsibility to keep notes on GPR pads
and include them in the file?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you were trained on the
responsibility to maintain notes and include
them in the official file?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, time.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were not
trained on the risks of tunnel vision?

MS. BARBER: Objection.
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were not trained on
the need to report misconduct of other police
officers?
MS. BARBER: Objection, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
(WHEREUPON, Deposition Exhibit
No. 13 was marked for
identification.)
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. What I'm handing you is a document
marked Plaintiff's Exhibit 13. It's Bates
stamped RFC811 and RFC1429.
Sir, do you intend to plead the
Fifth for all questions relating to Plaintiff's
Exhibit 13?
MS. EKL: Counsel, can we have just a
moment to look at it?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Yes.

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MS. EKL: I don't know that he's going
to be able to answer all those questions
without knowing what it is you're going to ask
him about it.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, are you familiar with the
document that's been provided to you as
Plaintiff's Exhibit 13?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Is this a complete -- is Plaintiff's
Exhibit 13 a complete list of all of your CR
files?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that you admitted
misconduct in each of these instances to
investigators of the city but were never
disciplined for all but three of the
complaints?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a reputation
among your fellow Chicago police officers for
doing sloppy paperwork?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a reputation
among your fellow Chicago police officers for
having an unusually high clearance rate?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you had a higher
clearance rate than all of your fellow Chicago
police officers?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you had a
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people, unquote, meaning you caused them to be
charged with crimes that they were not involved
in?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions I've asked you about
training and discipline because answering these
questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, isn't it true you were trained
prior to 1988 on the importance of recording
your notes on general progress reports so that
the notes could be preserved in the official
file?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were trained prior

to 1988 on the importance of preserving your
notes so that the information in the notes
could be available to both the prosecution and
defense?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were trained prior
to 1988 on the importance of preserving all
police reports so that information in the
reports could be available to both the
prosecution and the defense?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You were not trained by the police
department about the importance of preserving
your notes so that notes could be available to
both the prosecution and the defense, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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Q. You were not trained by the police
department about the importance of preserving
your reports so they would be available to both
the prosecution and the defense, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were aware that in 1988 Chicago
police officers followed a practice of only
submitting documents in the official file that
tended to inculpate the person charged with the
offense, correct?
MS. BARBER: Objection.
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
MS. BARBER: Form.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, you followed the practice of
only submitting documents into the official
file that tended to inculpate the person
charged with the offense, correct?
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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discussed with your supervisors your practice
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official file that tended to exculpate the
of only submitting documents into the official
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file that tended to inculpate the person
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How would they know
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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assumes facts not in evidence.
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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Q. Isn't it true you discussed in 1988
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withholding documents from the official file
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that tended to exculpate the person charged
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with the offense?
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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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assumes facts not in evidence.
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, you followed the practice of
withholding documents from the official file
that tended to exculpate the person charged
with the offense, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You maintained the practice of
withholding documents from the official file
that tended to exculpate the person charged
with the offense for your entire career; isn't
it true?
MS. EKL: Objection, asked and
answered three different times. Objection,
form, assumes facts not in evidence,
foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true in 1988 you kept
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true no supervisor ever
admonished you for withholding exculpatory
evidence from the official file?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Prior to and during 1988, supervisors
instructed you to withhold exculpatory evidence
from the official file, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about official files because
answering the questions will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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followed the City's written policies when
conducting line-ups and photo arrays?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that in 1988 you didn't
follow the City's written policies when
conducting line-ups and photo arrays?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true in 1988 when you
conducted in-person line-ups, you followed the
police department's practice to use arrestees
for the lockup -- from the lockup as fillers?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, when you conducted in-person
line-ups, you followed the police department's
practices to use civilians from the streets as
fillers, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, assumes facts not
in evidence.

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, when you conducted in-person
line-ups, you followed the police department's
practice to write the arrested suspect's CB
numbers on their hands prior to placing them in
the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, when you conducted in-person
line-ups you followed the police department's
practice to have arrested suspects stand in the
line-up without shoe laces while having all
fillers wear shoe laces?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, the police department had no

policy limiting the number of suspects that you
placed in line-ups, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. In 1988, the department had no
policies governing the physical characteristics
of fillers who were placed in line-ups,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, you followed the department's
practice of using the same fillers in multiple
line-ups, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, you followed the department's
practice of using the fillers from the same
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member?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, when selecting which filler
to use for in-person line-ups, you followed the
department's practice to use fillers who looked
substantially different from the suspect so as
to make it easier for a witness to identify the
suspect?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence, and also I don't believe
these questions are being asked in good faith.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, you followed the department's
practice to not document the results of a
line-up if a witness picked a filler?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, you followed the police
department's practice of only documenting the
result of a line-up if the witness identified
either the suspect or no one?
MS. BARBER: Asked and answered.
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The reason behind your practice of not
documenting the result of a line-up if the
witness picked a filler was to prevent the
witness's credibility from being undermined?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, you followed the police
department's practice of indicating to
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MS. BARBER: Objection, form, vague.
MS. EKL: Assumes facts not in
evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, you discussed with your
supervisors your practice of only documenting
the results of a line-up if the witness
identified either the suspect or no one?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, assumes
facts not in evidence.
Counsel, I just want to put on
the record, I feel like you are abusing this
process of Mr. Guevara asserting his Fifth
Amendment right and asking questions to which
you have no basis, no basis in fact, and I just
want to put that on the record.
MR. ART: We have conducted an
extensive discovery into filler identification
line-ups, so we would dispute that, but your
objection is noted for the record.
MS. EKL: If you could point to any
single document or any testimony in this case

that indicates the policy of the Chicago Police
Department is to put people that looked
dissimilar from each other, look differently in
a line-up, I would appreciate because that
question was asked, and I don't think there's
any good faith basis to show that they have a
practice in policy of putting people that look
differently into a line-up.
That's just an example of many
questions that have been asked during this
deposition to which I don't believe there's any
possible basis in fact.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: We disagree.
MR. ART: Yeah.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. No supervisor ever admonished you for
your practice of only documenting the result of
a line-up if the witness identified either the
suspect or no one, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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In 1988, you followed the police
department's practice of showing a single photo
of the suspect to the witness before showing
the witness a line-up with the suspect
included?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Throughout your career, you had a
practice of showing a single photo of the
suspect to the witness before showing the
witness a line-up with that suspect included?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, you followed the police
department's practice of creating photo arrays
in a manner that would make the suspect stand
out relative to the fillers?

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Q. Throughout your career, you followed
the police department's practice of creating
photo arrays in a manner that would make the
suspect stand out relative to the fillers?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1988, you followed the police
department's practice of telling witnesses to
pick the suspect from the photo array before
the witness made any identification?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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Q. Throughout your career, you followed
the police department's practice of telling
witnesses to pick the suspect from a photo
array before the witness made any
identification?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not if evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you would routinely
tell witnesses who to identify in live
line-ups?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you would routinely
tell witnesses who to identify in photo
line-ups?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my

attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You told your supervisor that you were
engaged in this practice, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You supervisor observed you engaging
the practice of telling witnesses who to
identify in live line-ups and photo line-ups,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You engaged in this practice of
telling witnesses who to identify in live and
photo line-ups since the beginning of your
employment with the Chicago Police Department,
correct?
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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. The practice continued up to and -- up
to, including the prosecution and conviction of
Jacques Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation, form,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were never
disciplined for engaging in these practices?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague, assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your supervisors
encouraged you to engage in this practice?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague, assumes facts not in evidence.
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get arrests and close cases, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation,
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that in 1988 you were

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maintained a practice -MS. EKL: I'm sorry. Can you start -I missed the first couple of words.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you maintained a
practice in 1988 and throughout the rest of
your career of withholding exculpatory evidence
from the official file so that criminal
defendants could not make use of that evidence
at trial?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. During your career as a police
officer, you were aware of a practice within
the police department to use force against
criminal suspects during interrogations,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

Q. During your career as a police
officer, you were instructed by supervisors to
use force against suspects during
interrogations, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. During your career as a police
officer, you discussed with supervisors your
practice of using force against suspects during
interrogations, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You were never admonished by a
supervisor for using force against suspects
during interrogations, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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Q. During your career as a police
officer, you were aware of a practice within
the police department to use force against
witnesses who were gang members in order to get
them to implicate other gang members?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Prior to 1988 you were trained on the
risk of unduly focusing on any one suspect or
theory in a criminal investigation, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. During your career as a police
officer, you followed a practice of using force
against witnesses who were gang members in
order to get them to implicate other gang
members, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Prior to 1988, you were not trained on
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Q. Sir, isn't it true that you filed for
bankruptcy before?
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bankruptcy -- that when you filed for
bankruptcy, your supervisor Mingey had an
interest in your bankruptcy estate?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. What financial state did your
supervisor Mingey have in your bankruptcy?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that Mingey's financial
stake in your bankruptcy violates CPD rules
about financial relationships between officers
and their superiors?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your financial
arrangements -- strike that.
Isn't it true your financial

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true he recommended you for
promotion because he had a financial interest
in your success?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, in August of 1995, you threatened
Evelyn Diaz that if she didn't come to the
police station, you would take her children
away, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
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Q. In August of 1995, you showed Evelyn
Diaz a photo of Luis Serrano and told her,
quote, this is the guy, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You told Diaz that if she didn't say
it was Serrano, you would put her in jail and
take her son, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You falsely reported that Diaz
voluntarily identified Serrano, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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answering my questions about Evelyn Diaz will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you coerce Carl Richmond in May
of 1993 to identify Robert Bouto as responsible
for the death of Salvador Ruvalcaba?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you frame Robert Bouto for the
killing of Salvador Ruvalcaba?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions about Carl Richmond because
answering these questions will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. In 1989, you tried to get Martin
Taylor to falsely implicate Edwin Ortiz from a
photo array; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.

THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You did that even though Taylor told
you he did not see who committed the murder,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth regarding
my questions about Martin Taylor because
answering the questions will incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1989, you drove Victor Vera, a
Spanish Cobra, to an investigation controlled
by the Latin Kings in an effort to coerce Vera
into giving a false confession, correct?
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assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In 1989, you threatened Vera that if
he did not confess, you would incarcerate his
parents for 100 years in an effort to coerce a
false confession from him?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You provided details of the crime to
Vera so that his false confession would appear
truthful, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to my questions about Victor Vera because
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. EKL: Hold on one second. I just
need to -- go ahead.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, did you conduct a suggestive
line-up in the investigation of the murder of
Hector Rivera in July 1998?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you frame Tony Gonzalez for the
killing of Hector Rivera?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth regarding
my questions about Hector Rivera because
answering the questions will incriminate you?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. On August 24th, 1999, did you beat up
Juan Hernandez in order to coerce him to
participate in the line-up?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to Juan Hernandez because answering the
question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
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Q. On September 18th, 1986 at the Congo
lounge you were attempting to buy cocaine from
Rafael Garcia; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:

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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. On February 21st, 1991, did you coerce
a false confession from David Rivera in the
investigation of the murder of Eugenio
Dominguez?
MS. EKL: Objection.
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Strike that.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. On February 21, 1991, did you coerce a
false confession from David Rivera in the
investigation of the murder of Eugenio
Dominguez?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you frame David Rivera for the
killing of Eugenio Dominguez?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to my questions about David Rivera because
answering the questions would incriminate you?
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lounge; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you then falsely charged
Garcia with battery?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true you were given a two-day
suspension for this incident?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth regarding
Rafael Garcia because answering the questions
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falsely identify Antonio McDowell, correct?
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Gonzalez was responsible for the death of Alvin
Reed and Francisco Marrero?
MS. EKL: Objection, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You used suggestive line-up techniques
in the investigation of the murders of Alvin
Reed and Francisco Marrero; isn't that true?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You framed Joaquin Gonzalez for the
murder of Alvin Reed and Francisco Marrero,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
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techniques in July 1991 investigating -- in the
investigation of the killing of Eddie Figueroa?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you frame Rubin Sanchez for the
killing of Eddie Figueroa?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth regarding
Eddie Figueroa because answering the questions
would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. EKL: I'm sorry. Can we get a
time check again?
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: 6:45, 15 minutes.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. In April of 1985, did you tell
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Did you put a gun to Buzzo's -- strike
that.
Did you put a gun to the head of
Buzzo's dog and threaten to shoot the dog?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
Is the air conditioner going?
MR. SWAMINATHAN: Is it too cold?
MS. EKL: No, no. Sorry.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to these questions because answering them will
incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true that on June 24th, 1982,
you along with Daniel Noon and Edward Mingey,
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you or Detective Koncz, K-o-n-c-z,
beat a witness on May 8th, 1995 to obtain
information about a homicide that occurred in
August of 1994?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the questions will incriminate you?
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. On August 27th, 1986, did you beat up
Bill Buzzo?
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Did you assault a civilian named
Melvin Warren in and around April of 1986?
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BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth because
answering the question will incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Mr. Guevara, isn't it true you were
promoted to gang crime specialist despite the
fact that your supervisors knew that you
engaged in misconduct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
MS. BARBER: I believe asked and
answered at this point as well.
MS. EKL: I believe so, too.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your supervisors knew
that you engaged in misconduct because you
discussed it with them prior to your promotion?

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true your supervisors knew
that you engaged in misconduct prior to your
promotion because they observed it?
MS. EKL: Objection, asked and
answered, form, foundation, assumes facts not
in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. During the entire investigation of the
Valentin murder, you were a gang crime
specialist, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You worked each day at the Valentin
murder investigation, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert

my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Before 1988 you had worked with your
co-defendants on many occasions, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You worked with Steve Gawrys at the
time of the Valentin investigation, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You worked with Steve Gawrys
throughout the Valentin investigation, correct?
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. When you work cases with Steve Gawrys,
you always work side by side with each other,
correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
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Q. Is it true that your partner was
always there when you did things?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you were always there when your
partner, Steve Gawrys, did things, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that when you and Gawrys
were partners, you always worked the same
shifts?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true that you were worked
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THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Isn't it true he was your partner
before Steve Gawrys?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Isn't it true you also worked with
Gillian McLaughlin, John Leonard, Daniel Noon,
John Guzman, Joseph Fallon, Joseph -- sorry,
Paul Zacharias, Edward Mingey, Russell
Weingart, and Rocco Rinaldi on many occasions?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, compound,
vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You received a merit promotion to
detective despite the fact that your
supervisors knew that you engaged in
misconduct, correct?
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foundation.
MS. BARBER: Four times.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Your supervisors knew that you engaged
in misconduct prior to your promotion because
they observed it?
MS. EKL: Again, you've asked this
question over and over. Yes, you have. It's
been the exact same question more than one
time.
Objection, form and foundation as
to even their knowledge. Objection.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You retired from the Chicago Police
Department on June 15, 2006, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, asked and
answered. This, again, has been asked before.
MR. ART: It really hasn't. We have
not asked about when he retired from the

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MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And the law firm has been retained to
investigate acts of misconduct by you since the
wrongful conviction of Jacques Rivera, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You've given interviews to
investigators who are part of the City's
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Have you given interviews to lawyers
other than your own who are part of the City's
investigation?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.

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attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. And you've been questioned by federal
authorities for actions that you took during
the course of your employment with the Chicago
Police Department?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation,
assumes facts not in evidence.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Sir, you grew up in Humboldt Park,
correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. Sir, you knew about gangs in that
area, correct?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You had knowledge of the Spanish
Cobras, the Maniac Latin Disciples, Latin
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A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. You participated in those gangs as a
kid, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, foundation.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. You knew of all those gangs before you
became a Chicago police officer, correct?
MS. EKL: Objection, form, vague.
THE WITNESS: On the advice of my
attorney, I assert my Fifth Amendment rights.
BY MR. SWAMINATHAN:
Q. Are you pleading the Fifth with regard
to my questions about your involvement -- or
your knowledge about gangs because answering
the questions would incriminate you?
A. On the advice of my attorney, I assert
my Fifth Amendment rights.
Q. With regard to your pleading the Fifth
Amendment during the course of this deposition
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This concludes the
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We'll waive signature.
(Whereupon, the deposition
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STATE OF ILLINOIS)

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I, Jamye Giamarusti, a certified shorthand

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reporter, within and for the County of Cook and

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personally appeared before me, at 312 North

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May, Suite 100, Chicago, Illinois, REYNALDO

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GUEVARA, in a cause now pending and

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undetermined in the Circuit Court of Cook

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County, Illinois, wherein JACQUES RIVERA is the

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Plaintiff and REYNALDO GUEVARA, et al., are the

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Defendants.

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was first duly sworn to testify the truth, the

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whole truth and nothing but the truth in the

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cause aforesaid; that the testimony then given

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I have hereunto set

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229:7,18
230:2,9,19
231:2,8,14,21
232:4,12,22
233:6,17
234:2,10,19
235:5,14,23
236:8,17
237:2,11,20
238:4,13
239:11,23
240:6,10,16
240:20 241:2
241:7,11
242:2,6,10,15
242:19,24
243:4,8,15,22
244:12,21
245:3,14,19
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247:4,12,22
248:11,20
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251:7,13,21
252:6,12,19
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254:2,7,10,17
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255:23 256:8
256:16,24
257:7,14
258:2,9,16,24
259:8,17
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264:3,11,20
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268:7,14,24
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271:11,20
272:6,14,24
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274:8,17,24
275:10,20
276:9,15,23
277:8,17
278:2,11,19
279:2,9,19
280:5,14,24
281:10,18
282:3,13,23
283:10,19
284:3,10,17
284:24 285:6
285:15,24
286:7,16
287:1,16,24
288:11,16
289:6,18
290:3,13,20
291:5,13,21
292:5,13,21
293:7,17
294:1,10,18
295:3,12,20
296:4,12,19
297:7,17
298:7,18
299:6,16
300:4,14,22
301:10,18,22
302:5,13,21
303:22 304:5
304:12,20
305:5,14
306:1,12,20
307:3,11,18
308:2,23
309:6,13,20
310:3,10,17
310:24 311:6
311:12 312:2
312:10,19

313:2,10,18
314:10,17
315:4,12,19
316:4,13,20
317:2,8,14,18
317:23 318:7
318:14,22
319:8,17,24
320:9,16
321:2,11,19
322:4,13,21
323:7,15,24
324:9,22
325:5,13,21
326:7,12
327:6,14,22
328:7,16,24
329:8,15,22
330:7,15,22
331:5,14,21
332:4,13,20
333:4,9,18
334:1,10,18
335:1,11,19
336:2,10,22
337:8,14,21
338:4,11,18
339:2,11,20
339:22 340:4
340:11,20
341:7,24
342:6,16
343:2,10,19
344:4,12,21
345:9,19
346:2,9,17
347:1,10,17
347:23 348:5
348:15,17,23
349:6,11,15
349:22 350:7
350:15,23
351:8 352:7
352:24 353:6
353:12,19
354:3,10,18
354:24 355:7

355:15 356:3
356:11,19
357:4,13,20
357:24 358:4
358:12,19
359:2,9,15,23
360:6,15
361:7,15,22
362:6,13,20
363:2,12,20
364:5,15,22
365:5,11,18
366:5,15,23
367:13,23
368:7,15,23
369:9,19
370:3,9,13,21
371:5,13,20
372:3,11,19
373:3,12,20
374:4,11,19
375:3,10,14
375:18 376:1
376:9,16,23
377:6,14,20
378:4,11,19
379:1,8,16
380:2,6,18
381:2,10,20
382:5,11,18
383:1,10,14
384:1,13,18
384:24 385:6
385:12,20
386:3,12,18
386:24 387:16
387:24 388:7
388:15,24
389:7,14,20
390:2,7,16,24
391:6,11,16
391:24 392:8
392:17,22
393:6,11,19
393:23 394:8
394:17 395:2
395:14,23

396:8,17
397:1,8,17
398:2,11,17
399:1,8,20
400:1,6,14,21
401:1,9,18
402:2,6,22
403:7,11,18
404:2,10,18
406:20 407:16
407:23 408:7
408:17 409:2
409:9,17
410:2,13
411:1,10,21
413:20,23
414:3,7,12,17
414:24 415:10
415:19 416:3
416:13,21
417:7,14
418:9 419:12
419:20,24
420:4,11,16
421:11,16,24
422:6,11,15
422:20,24
423:7,14,21
424:5,14,21
425:4,12,18
426:4 427:5,9
427:20 428:9
428:21 429:6
429:23 432:22
433:8,20
434:1,6,14,21
435:8,15,22
436:7,15,23
437:6,14,22
438:6,12,16
439:1,6,21
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453:8,18
454:2,10,19
455:3,12,20
456:4,11,22
457:6,14,22
458:6,14,23
459:7,15
460:1,9 461:2
461:11,22
462:5,13,20
463:14,22
464:6,13,20
465:4,12,21
466:5,14,24
467:11,18
468:1,9,18
469:1,9,17,24
470:6,13
471:1,8,15,22
472:6,14,22
473:7,15,23
474:8,16,23
475:8,15,21
476:11,17
477:2,10,18
478:2,14,20
479:3,11,18
480:4,14,23
481:8,16
482:1,7,12,23
483:5,14,22
484:6,13,20
485:3,14,21
486:5,12,19
487:2,14,21
488:5,14,22
489:8,16,23
490:7,15,23
491:7,13

493:2,9,17
494:2,10,19
495:3,12,18
496:1,16
497:1,10,18
498:2,10,19
499:3,10,17
500:2,12,20
501:5,11,22
502:4,12,19
503:3,18
504:2,11,20
505:4,12,21
506:5 507:5
507:15,22
508:7,14,23
509:7,16,24
510:10,18
511:3,12,21
512:2,17
513:2,11,19
514:3,10,20
515:4,12,19
516:1,6,9,12
516:17,21
517:1,6,10,15
517:21 518:3
518:8,14,19
519:1,8,14,20
520:2,9,16,23
521:7,12,16
521:23 522:5
522:9,16,23
523:5,13
524:2,9,16,24
525:6,15,21
526:2,9,14,21
527:11,20
528:1,5,9,14
528:21 529:4
529:11 530:9
530:14,24
531:7,14,21
532:6,12,21
533:7,14,22
534:7,18
535:3,14,24

536:9,21
537:4,14,24
538:9,17,22
539:3,8,17
540:2,12,22
541:3,12,20
542:5,17
543:1,11,20
544:5 545:23
546:10,19
547:4,14,23
548:9,17
549:1,8,17
550:3,11,18
551:1,8,14,22
552:14,23
553:7,15,23
554:9,14,21
555:2,10,15
556:1 557:4
557:11,20
558:6,14,23
559:7,15,22
560:3,10,14
560:19 561:2
561:10,18
562:3,12,20
563:1,11,18
564:2,15,19
564:24 565:8
565:13,23
566:6,13,20
567:1,9,16,21
568:5,12,17
569:5,13,21
570:3,15,20
571:12,16
572:1,5,14,20
573:3,15,20
574:6,15,20
575:2,6,15,20
576:6,15,20
576:24 577:6
577:10,16,24
578:7,14,21
579:3,7,17
580:5,17

581:3,10,17
582:2,10,18
583:2,11,15
583:19 584:2
584:8,14,20
585:6
asserted 46:20
asserting 13:19
20:7 24:22
57:21 58:2
63:17 64:4,12
65:11 66:2,14
67:2,10,22
68:4 69:3 72:2
85:1 244:6
384:5 412:1
415:5 417:21
429:17 438:18
442:20 449:17
461:24 466:7
475:11 482:3
491:9 495:14
502:14 511:14
511:17 515:21
544:15
assertion 67:14
assigned 12:6
12:23 14:3,15
15:3
assist 387:20
assistant 342:11
assisted 207:24
associated 68:3
assume 6:24
assumes 13:23
23:9,24 24:16
26:19 27:3
28:18 29:9
37:11 38:1,15
39:5 40:16
41:9,24 42:18
43:9 44:3
45:11 60:17
68:10 70:8
84:6,20 85:11
107:20 108:10
111:18 112:19

116:3 119:23
122:22 128:16
129:4,16
130:4 138:20
139:8,17
140:7,19
141:18 142:3
142:12,21
143:18 144:7
144:16 145:4
147:11,20
148:5,22
149:13,22
150:7,16
151:3,11,23
152:12 153:18
154:8 155:7
155:16 156:5
160:1 163:22
164:20 165:7
168:1,20
169:8 170:19
172:14,24
177:2,11
179:3,12,21
180:5,12
181:12 182:16
183:6,14,24
184:10,21
185:7,17
186:5,23
187:9,18
188:16 189:1
189:9,22
190:9,23
191:7,21
192:10,19
193:8,22
194:24 195:20
196:6,12,19
197:4,12,21
198:7,16
199:1,8,23
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246:17 247:1
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248:8 251:4
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254:22 255:21
256:6,14
259:15 263:24
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266:9 269:9
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274:15 277:6
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278:17 279:16
280:2,11,21
282:10,20
283:7,16,24
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292:3,10,18
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294:7,15
295:1,10,18
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301:7 302:11
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312:16,24
316:2,11
318:19 319:6
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325:2,11,19
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328:5,14,22
329:6,13,20
330:5,13
331:12,19
332:2,11
333:1,16,23
334:8,15,23
335:9 336:8
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345:5,17,24
346:7,14
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357:2,11
358:10 359:20
360:4,13,21
361:5,13,20
362:4,11
363:10,18
364:3,13
365:3 366:3
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367:11,20
368:5,13,21
369:7,16
372:1,9,17
373:10,18
374:24 375:7
377:4,12
378:1,9,17
379:14,24
380:22 381:7
381:17 383:22
385:17,24

386:9 387:22
388:5,13,21
390:13,22
391:21 392:6
392:14 393:4
393:17 394:6
394:15,24
395:12,21
396:6,14,23
397:6,15,24
398:8 401:6
401:16 403:5
403:24 404:8
404:16,23
407:14,21
408:5,14,23
409:14,23
410:9,21
411:8,19
416:10 419:17
420:9 421:21
423:19 424:3
424:12,19
425:2 426:1
427:2 428:7
428:17 429:3
429:11 436:13
437:20 438:4
440:21 441:5
447:22 448:12
448:22 449:5
449:13 451:3
451:11,20
452:3,11,20
453:6,16,24
454:8,17
455:1,10,18
456:2,9,20
457:4,12,20
458:4,12,21
459:5,13,23
460:7,24
461:20 465:10
466:3 468:7
468:16 469:7
469:15 472:4
472:12,20

473:5,13,21
474:6,14,21
475:6 476:24
477:8,16,24
479:1,9,16
480:2,12,21
481:6,14,23
483:12,20
484:4,11,18
485:1,19
486:3,10,17
486:24 487:12
487:19 488:3
488:12,20
489:6,14,21
490:5,13,21
491:5 493:7
493:15,24
494:8,17
495:1,10
496:23 497:8
497:16,24
498:8,17
499:1,8,24
500:10,18
501:3,20
502:10 504:9
504:18 505:2
505:10,19
506:3 507:3
507:13,20
508:5,12
509:5,14,22
510:8,16
511:1,10
513:9,17
514:1,8,16
515:2,10,17
522:20 530:22
535:1,11,22
536:7,18
537:12,22
538:7,15
539:14,23
540:9,19
541:9,17
542:2,13,22

543:8,17
544:2,11
545:21 546:8
546:17 547:2
547:12,21
548:7,15,23
549:6,15
550:1,9,16,23
551:6 552:12
553:21 554:7
555:22 557:9
557:18 558:4
558:12 559:5
559:13,20
561:8,16
562:1,10,18
563:16,24
565:6,21
566:4,11,18
567:7 568:10
569:11,19
571:2,10,23
572:12 573:1
573:10 574:4
574:12 575:13
576:12 581:24
582:8,16,24
583:9
attempt 363:14
501:13
attempted
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485:23 493:19
attempting
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attention 134:5
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75:13,16,20
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82:5,11,15,21
83:2,8,13,18
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87:7,12,18,24
88:6,10,16,23
89:5,12,18,24
90:6,10,16,20
91:2,6,12,16
91:22 92:2,8
92:12,18,22
93:4,8,14,18
93:24 94:13
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101:18,24
102:5,11
103:17,23
104:5,10,14
104:20,24
105:6,10,16
105:20 106:2
107:10,15,23
108:4,12,17
108:23 109:6
109:12,18
110:1,7,12,16
110:23 111:4

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112:2,10,15
112:22 113:4
113:11,16,21
114:1,5,9,13
114:17,22
115:2,13,17
115:22 116:6
116:11,16,20
117:1,5,11,15
117:20,24
118:4,8,12,16
118:23 119:3
119:12,16
120:2,7,14,19
121:3,8,14,19
121:23 122:3
122:10,15,24
123:5,9,14,18
123:23 124:10
124:17,21
125:1,6,10,15
126:1,5,10,14
127:2,7,11,15
127:19,24
128:4,8,12,19
128:24 129:7
129:12,19,24
130:7,12,18
130:22 131:5
131:9,15,20
132:1,5,9,16
132:21 133:5
133:9,13,18
133:23 134:3
134:12,17,23
135:12,17,23
136:4,10,14
137:1,5,8,12
137:21 138:1
138:5,10,14
138:22 139:3
139:11,20
140:2,13,22
141:3,9,14,21
142:6,15
143:5,12,20

144:1,10,22
145:7,16,22
146:2,13,16
147:7,14,23
148:11,17
149:1,16
150:1,10,19
151:6,14,19
152:2,7,15,20
153:8,13,21
154:2,11,16
154:21 155:1
155:10,22
156:8,16,23
157:7,12,19
157:24 158:8
158:13,22
159:6,19
160:4,11,16
160:23 161:4
161:11,15,23
162:8,17
163:6,16
164:1,9,14,23
165:10,15,23
166:8,14,19
166:23 167:3
167:7,11,15
167:19 168:4
168:10,14
169:23 170:4
170:9,14,22
171:5,10,15
171:20 172:1
172:6,17
173:9,14,20
174:3,10,17
174:24 175:7
175:18 176:1
176:10,19
177:4,13
178:9,16,21
179:5,14,23
180:7 181:4
181:14,19
182:3,8,18,23
183:8,16

184:2,12,23
185:9 186:18
187:2,11,21
188:3,9,18
189:3,11,17
190:1,12,17
191:1,10,14
191:23 192:4
192:13,21
193:3,11,16
193:24 194:5
195:3,7,14,23
196:8,15,22
197:6,14,24
198:9,18
199:3,10,18
200:1,7,17
201:1,10,21
202:4,10,16
202:23 203:5
203:12,18
204:1,8,17
205:1,7,21
206:15,19
207:6,9,19
208:4,14,18
209:1,7,13,21
210:3,10,14
210:19,24
211:5,11,17
211:23 212:3
212:7,11,15
212:22 213:6
213:17 214:6
214:13,17
215:4,9,13,17
216:1,7,17
217:3,9,16,24
218:8,16
219:1,9
220:11,17
221:7,14,20
222:7,14,21
223:4,13,22
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ho was positively idontificd as the person that shot the victim Felix VALENTIN
on 27 Aug 88. ?oancr with witness, charges of ?at. Dngree
murder were approved.
Orlando LOPEZ, witness. was shown photos of Jose 
and Felipe HIEVES and he stated to r/i's that these two individuals tore not
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NAME I: ADDRESS 3135!; DATE or orncan a ms'r. mun-st:  9159031111111
one R105 1 986 .28 Jul 81. art. 1 
34kg w; North Rogers, Dist. Disorderly Conduct.
30 April 196#
Jacquea 6776065 - Feb 33 Off Chavez 1h dist Robbery
3135 w. Beach I 28 Feb 83, Robb., (35-18-1a), Poss Vah., 
30 Apr TO CHIEF JUDGE, Judge Sodini
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Uack RIVERA 6851273 02 Jun.83 Off Gruber Bummer Mobile Force t1L1) 
"535 11 Beach 24 June 83, 11th Gun (thau?lalu Fail Exib Reg. (1113c) Fail
30 Apr 65 Pass. I.D. (38~83?2a) Judge haurie (Docket NoEgifhne?gg. Prosse, Theft. Poss 
6776065 Veh. ayra PROBATION. Judge Hall.
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?32 w. Division -
Apr 65 10 Aug 87, Battery?38-12-3) SOL Judge Chrones

Jacques _3034413 ?24 May 88, Off. RRamirez, 14th dist. P055. Cann.
4448 W. Cortez 
30 Apr. 65,

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The: Facts briefly stated are: as Fnlloms: The victim while seateg in his
.gghicle at 3320 Cortland was attacked by arresfea Jacques Rlvera who
s.th ?qjm zen theg. The: victim died of his Hound?s on 11+ September 1.958.

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?aw? chmeGMN w.w.m. wwanm- 
oghw no mo wux wwa no mu?m ammw anumm.menm mu 
mn? nwnmun ha ?rmu oxwm ?aw muuwdmn mm
mum amwnwum Honmnwou. Quadm Cw mum nzwm.wmn wiww.
Hum muowumm ozww mun Uwa 23% rm ?mm. kru 
n?m?mww?mm Wm mun nmu mam H?mz 
mm<m oxww ?rm nwua.

n?mn Emmn Ewnw no uncmm.mn thwm?nn? NH
umnnum muumwum w: ?0 numu Hm awn
no" ?mcm no to??w mwocn mam 
mw muunmwm Hmnwu nmam no nwm.wunmw mun. Hmumwwum. 
mu cuwnr n?m?nuww an wuumm. oswm.?wm Jon "on


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amwnwumm ??wm nuwammnra::.

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rm an I
03mm no Human mu :mvmeGMm_m
Munwmuwmnu.m WO?mm. mu numnm mum mnuwmnm Mn


-mumu arm newn?meLm mewdmm. um 
anmm. mam mwuwmn n?w wuwm
on nonmwnu mum.wmn mum Mu :uuwm 
wmmumxn 0m mum HLQ
?WPmewm mum nm n0nmmuw mu ?pm wuw

om Unwnw Munw. nuanmno. 
. Ltuk?.
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. nu WO?an.Om QNKW Hmwmua ozww Hmandnu om
. arm ?HOnmwnu 0m mum om nan waon?ma om hoanum m?aa

?mrwmocmm.

. ozwm.mnm nowm.swa nann.03wm nu
3mm no no cw van uoCHu
mum Mu mmnm.

mem mum om.andm
awwmem muoa nanocmr wmmo; .memnwmoxme.wua 03mm 
mwru? cm nun mu moan 

_w?mUmnwm?szu ?wmunu an nwmwamm 5w
no ?aw onWmH_uonnw ammunmnw two .m nun
- . . .

nmww.mnm wwmo nn?m
unwumwum Dam 
no Haw Nwwomwwa
w.x.m-.hdmw. rodmw
rwmanN. 03mm mum Hum? umam


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run mnoa memo
I amawmu..
racy Hanwn 

?tharm? nu zmrmO? 
mmww0? wo<mu. tum imwnwum 63m wan
amavmum mmamuamm anCHUmm. ozmw awn 
mwm?m~ nuum ucu?mm 0m nonmwam. no mun mwumbcu. .ozwm man
wamwwm umnwam muwmumm.

 

. <mrwmaam~ nuw? ozwm mmnmu nme 
mw<m Swa.w mamww. ma?H-Umunwma wmumm?u.

Fm mung? mmau.nwam~ imm nnw?wnwW
omww szmewmozmmw m? 
mumnwnu mm mum wanmnu Mn mwiuurw 
haww 03mm n?wn {mm UM mmucw?wnw
wwuuwwm :wnw mwunwm numb mw?m no my wuww amum 
.ndwunwb Hammon?hnwn nuwm nu. KHmUmuF?zmmH. awn nocmwa.
"womm mwam m?nm mnua "rm mm mu cummwn?<mn awnw
0m wwnoWUw. wovmnnu mum Amman?. .

. mPUmuww_m 2mm mum 
nu mw?m mwunm Pu wwnmuu ?maw nummwu mm-
mum Maudumwum me no =mmunvum mumm an?
um muuwwn.a mnmuNHWEUEme. ww?mmwm. no oxrw 
3w Mundumma munm nu mm? cw uwm ummu

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gnuwamm oamu 

 

moammwam Hmnwu_ mrUHwbb Emm.?wuumn on acwmm? 

DEWW mm<m mmoa udmn Unmonm wm?cmwor @Hucw ?wa a?n

0m.n?m mm<w Ha?m? rm ?mm
:ou.nWm Hun . . .

Hm mum ?magma am on can? amw ram. 
UHmn? amwm~ ma dam zxww. nuwm ozwm.nnmn rm rum:
vmomwm ?30 no Haw nnwu om ozww
awmw no wmanm mum.wwm nxu menx amwwm_

0m nonmwum mn mun unwammw n?mn ozww madam mm Oum?m

mum nmuwnmw mwuw mn?mmnw wh.0anmmn. zumu nun Haw nmam no 
awnimmw won nun ozww mm" ?0x "mu 
?nun nun mum mwma.oao nmmw.
omwm yum wuumummn mow no
mmnan 0Hm_0m 3mm can an nUw iuwwm Duran
manm? EWHH a?wm Una meo nu EHO
mmwwam nu waww nqwu mwn?n mimm mnua 
nwuxmmw. w?wnmn?.mo mHmen mun ?rm wuwomwm?m.

wn n?m UHmumnmnawdwu Honmmwon. mun 
nonnm.nmw mnom 0m n:m daanwm.
mum my Hm? mam menw
amwm mo mun ?an Mano nmeu waywnm nmu. m?m
&Ho<m no me wocmm-

. wmn.oom 0m ?rm mwua ?wm ?mun
inwnw Hm nnow mwnw.coo nu nu 
away awamme. 03mm zmwanwEOEm?w aonmw.wm nan 
0m szuwmwzoxmxqu ann?mumm nioomwmn ?own:

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Om
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wwam am ?mmUNHw20?mxH nova Omwm n?mn me anwumw wmdm? r:
. wwmo now? nu =wmmw mums ma?wum..

OEWN snmaumnunm amwum nwmu ozww m?nupu nunnwunm
no mm? cw mnum .

oxrw mwogn mam umm 9mm

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no two 03mm ?wm no
Emmuwmh?oxmww. ?50 mun m.ao?mw mm.
mmeOH mw? 
Uzmw Ewuw awnw aqwu ?wu 
wumwum wm.nowwnm nu ummwum. D?ww 
b_mu? mno? ImmwumyROmem w: ?mm mhnawu Om 
wMJuHmm nmcmu Hun 

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moaning amalgam a? . . .0
. mmwwu nww-nmm mu n?0.nm?iwmr.
ammunmwuosmwm Hmaoawwnm me roam.mbm wona unanno.

In.

. Hu 0H mwuww Hmmo? ozwm iwnw
sz. ??rm ?mm.w?m unwm?wma? 0m Hanan? Om ozrw.m ma-
erHm admmwo. new? omvw nuwn Um wumi nucmwm 0m
mummw mama two ?wunmu no :65% moau ozww wmm.wr< wmumwm no
mum mwmme man man mm non cum ?womwma 0m 
mm: ozwm no m.mmwn
Hewunm 0mm mnomu? . a. . . .

muoa 03m 0m armm?wmm 

ww amu. OZPN mmda nun ahnm%
:m mun nwm?onwmu Dummw amwm ?nnwm mo nu nuw om 
Hm mnoumm. .Pn mum Uwuwmum w:

:u an 

nuhnmmu? Hunw?wnm. mum mu
Hnuu?ua?mw ?Wm nwu. .

a wm.mw numu 2mm awnw

ozwm mun. 
muwm? hwWUHmm. noox nucn?? mwn1wm1 w?m nwumw m?wmnm Om
OEWN m?m mwmo Hormm WUOEH n?w 



35mm mam mnOMMnm nun m. "amt
mmwumm mum aoaw?. arm mummw m0 mza no
Arm ame two 2mm 
mum nOHm rwa nan Hum Bounw 3mm umwu.nmwwu UW onMnm OHmHanm. Hum
mummxm ?mwm mcm?w?wocm mum wman mWwa

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mam ozww nu awn aonm%.unoa
S??mw. 03?? ?mw? 

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no mw.mou. mam mum Hwammw . ozwm 
mm Hmamnuwum aonmw no no 

- moamnwam 5.. Hume. napalm am mmUmezoamHH .wn nwu
I wonmnum mn m?wn? gnu nmunnmw Mu n?wnwno.
ozww ?own mwo?w ammummw?osmwr
- nova 029m numn Obvrmawn Ewm won .Enwwm twuw
. many :mHm wwmwuwnwmu
. wawm m?wmm rm 3w Emwnma w: on Huw-
0mm. 
- m3Mm qwm??m ?wanI 3mm quNuMmm nu mam w-wm?uwl am
annuluo m-u3 wonmw awn mu 
mu.mum w- .rpquu 03mm wnu Hum ammn 

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niaciz?gn a. acumawn 05mm . awe mm m. a ma: 

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mun mun
mmwuwn mum WHHomHma om nonmwum mum w?m ?rm
. . . .

3mm ozrm mn wmwao?n.m?n 
mn?mmnm Mu mun qum ombw mum waomnma 0m nonw?sm. oxww
.mmqm arm wuwn Hma no ?n meHaHHawanm can
iwmr. swm-uw unn?numn nun om mum mwwm.nm n?m am
nunwunw nn 03w?. 01mm H3 n?m V?mmammn
0m n?m wanmnw wn.wmwanun mum . .
?mm.no anus me mwmuw om n?m aozmw. ozww



mum Hwn?mqnm 
03mm mum mw.mncm?ouwmu amwm nrmem ram muuwummn.m "so.
Nwwomuwa muum ?aww ?unw Honmw omwm nu?nwnuwu
nun-d

 

nu ?w amwumu Hm :iwom m?m
Ozww wn "Ha ammnwum H-m0m 
3mmUwazo?wmm mna,wwm nn?nwu. 000x ma??nw Omwunw MWmemm.hum
mwzmosmmw. mu wowwnw qw?wnwm ?Wm kuum5umnn. um gamma
no memm.w0anm awn mnom.wn nme in?wa anm
0m umHnOanm mum who nwma No.03ww. Hum 
mwoimm an mu nun m?n mum meIOWm m?nwawn 
.

.me0 H5 Hmmo. ozwm Kama amrmO? mn?m
n?ocwumm.03hm awnw rwwomwma 0m on
up". ozww mm?w an mrUHrrw m?wa ?rm 
nwwu omww ?mwm ozrm o.m on H?u.nn

?mm nuaw~.wwunrw mama no
.m UmeH 
wamn wm_wm no Uc? 

wan nowa wwa Wm Emu nu nuam cm awn: mam an?m? 
mm?msnm. Hum mmumma wbm.qum mwuHrbm mdm.uom nwmw.

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23' 
nun

DEMW Bonmw mm mwO? ?Wmm 
mum no Ham nun on mu uunl. awrmw 
arm no ?30 nwmwama nu Jw<w Unwd awnw nun
uwu?m mu mm nucwm nor wmw. w.m omwm 
Hm? ruwn?umam am nun wu- muua umw mam.omn muna n?m
Uuwwu. wam mmo.oum nm om Him w?m.nmm

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?mvmm munnm mum? mwunww wuummnwu 
u:mummw snow uwm :wmumenm um ?nudvnwa
wn?u n? mtwm. two mw.??m wu no 

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soamamm_oamn . .ogamxmammwxunawun .

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ncsicrna: E. ?Divan 

.. nan Hana mHmo man 
mnnOH?mK no mam "tun ma ammunmnunma.
meHrwb.wn arm nmum.. umwm mmoo man

nmwm?wonm Mu E?wnw ma?wm waa no <mrmw. .ozrw awn
ma?wm m0%Hm imm 

620 am n?m.WMHom?mam am nonmwum mHoa n?wm ?nvzomm ?muw
mow? no mmn?om m.x.w. ?n
ammn Ozwm mum dwumu.mn me ozww d??Mm mum
wmwa 03mm Umnr.

.

mwuu Gama man mwdmu 
awn unm.?mnw No mm? 4mvammW?m. HDHQ Ozww
nwmu Hm no anm om: m?WZm.

mnwmam w: Enww. PB 

mm gnaw?wwa mum mum?u mnwumnm Mn n?wnmmo mno<uamu 03w. ?w

Wuwomuma om nonuwnm on nmeHn. ozwm nowm nun numn ?n

Emma m??mm mo nswn_wm sun no "um

meu. oawm my?sam 993 3m Emu Hmnmudmu mwoa
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mpanrm wsnwuannmm.ozwm no mobrzmo oamwo m.x.m. 
m:Uwab ?own numn O?mwo.wum KHN awn? Bowm? u.
mm memm mum.=wHwam .

Onwmw n?cm mHmu mwxm.mon? mwwum miua
won Hum ??nw0mm am nnmun 
Hnnw?mwum ONFWZUD m.W2m..?m?m mum 
n?m?rm m.x.m..mrmw.. mun
=wmwmuzunw.= mwmamm Haw EM Um

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?aaodm? um tunw Havana m?oa mun
wn mno?n an non 

03mm awn mu mum nmu 
mu mmwabun mun wan.noox ?rm Econmn w?nm vm?wnu
.3m?an??0?mxm um nmeUmn amnnm?n
mnn? :ww mum anmmu mmdmumw muonm n?n n?m om
mum acqwum nmu. armu.mm4m mum nu ozwm. . .
mmn.03mw wmdm.monm nn.mmww.m Hw?mm

Aha? n.ummn 

. wnnwum.w wuwwnm Hmwa mn.03wm.m Hmmw?mmnm; mwonw 
imm.Hmno<mnmm. .zmmuwmwmoamwm sma.mw<um mum nu ozww- ozrw
?30 5m.?omwm 0m mu. Hum 
Emm.nwuo?? O?n Ma nuaun. w?nmn nowm 036A 
?30 rum Ozwm cw mawwnw.

a .
w?mnmn puma..03PW mun me Huanwmw. urxm? 03Wm_ 
wawnmw w5<0w4wnm Enumnno<mu wmmunm.
??wm U?n.awm non

mu n?mu Howumuwmm swmu.wwa. ozww cnmmumnuon m.Hocmw
a?ucmw Ewmumwwzoxmwm cmanmn w?mw. 
?wnw mum w.w.m. rmu.
.m mmnm.amawwn.xno:n Nu gmc550uOKPW mow?m nn Su? Hm "Hm
nmmw. w?mmw mumwu mwm?wv mm
anmuma we Oxbm Hahn m04?m.noHn aka 5m {mm.mow:m no nauunw
w? mom?m newd mman ?n ?mwmmu mm.pua no udumm
a an?mw no wadmm mum

?wmnm
nu umw
?mammdm nwu wmmu .

HH on ENNUNH no?nwnumu ozww mun
mmwxa Hwy an cm ?hwomnmam om mr
Wunmm. ?Wmu ozvm OZWH nan win
Wuwomuwam nu manx Mn mums Wu "mm
nmu mn?.wawnm om amuw awn
inmwmayzw?mwm_wn uowwnw Okmuwm
iwmu oxrw rm manna Om mud mun mum mm?mlm wuoru
hi.? 9. II an 
mmWILunl U.- .rl ll

mumunm :uunnm?nn oxwm nu u?vh truanm mu mu0?u
wwum a?wm aunnwnumu 

UP Nun mm Huawunm an an ?Wulwum 

o? cum

   

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1

no Auw_ rad. no 03wm_ two nwnu
mown zwm?Hw muzu mum dcunmm 0m
nonmwuw muua ozwm m<on< mm<m5 nu ?ma awwm. rmnwu n20 
HOH noun mun :wwm 035m cam
xwwom?wa cm nonmwum no 3wmeHm mdm?% mm<Mn nu nan am?m.
mnoa mmuHOXmean< Humm mum Kw.?mm nunm?nnmm 
mm an? UiiO?wm :Mbr Mu
nuwnmmo 0H mu ?OerJw annwmu.m wocmm. awawwmQ mun 
3mm Umwn Hu<aw<mm wn zww?m? umwa mow 
w?m?HOnm an noannm? Wu umxn cam on nummwm.

pHnHAmanw mum nu;?wmd mm m?Muwwcm mun
ozrm Ummwn MCHn?wmumm 0m muoa rwvo PKG
PMhmam wHUn:mH..mm2wnU m?m mmaudo Hmmwumm Mu mmnodmu
mm?w. vawuowm. .

manw rn?mm_mw
zomnHOmm mum mnumwnm ma nuwnwmo- wumowamn
ozww nun? ?rm mmenENMn 5mm Ummw 039m awe n?mn Mn 
cm mun imm mw?nw we nun ?Www suns 
.mnwmimqumu. Ogrw Ham? on? wum owm om nonw
"awn Wm :wm mwouwnm ??mnm. 03PM mam
Inn anew": nan memnmn wom?m zmunm?n?
nun Dawn mmgu nocwn non nu 

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mum

Ha mwnw<.no ommw.
wmwmu oxww no nunmwun mow Hpa-
Ozwm nmww<m?wu Emww Wwwomnma Om no 
nto ammwm. ozww mow.nwm
Hmnmu n?wm ozww Wm mzrwamwv Emm 

mu?mm no Ova oxww nu awmn


03mm wuw: oxwm w-w-m..wmqavw z?

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luv .
.rahrrma.m mw?mwmm anew oswm mw
an zmx?mww mmume hum ZHMUM wzozm?n
?aw? ozww Wm auuwa nm?m 0m mw .mno 03mm
mum mwm.oou nmmy mwua man mm<w Mm nu
nuwm mwumHHWEm u?mu U??w ?wu
anmm.anwu :wn.nwu axwm nmmwuumm mennuwxn nu mU?mm
mum Hmew ww?mwmwu -

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Ha Humm. ozww mcmuwwmmammanthd :Hnw.onm ruwm 
0m monumm 0m on nummwn. .mmenHWZo
Otwm man a?cmm. .

Hm wumu_ zanumrwosmmH wmnw?w Hu<ow?ma H: mm 
Eva: ?Hm w.w.w. vb?; ogrm Mn
n?mn4xumoNHv20?me 
ozww. mun :wmamm awn mm nwm.~mnw wwmn?wnn ?owwnm
mnanon wwannm won mm numnm mum nmvamH munmm?m Mn wan
wwmnEmem umww?m aoum< no n?mwu mnam
anmeUManw?u.. ogww rm mwm.no@ um?
awnuu m1H nuanwn?mn Hm ?mma,no.mmw man: mm

11.5.!

HKDHUMHNIT manna? mun mam

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 momm. monm :3 Emma muwmumm mum 

Noam mowu =m om nonmwum mow m-mmw2w2wmw muu? Emu 
w? wh Own aux. Noam mmnuwmn 
nh?m ?mUm Ewn? 03mm on Om mum "Own 03mm nnw? 3m
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wa

"mommy Emnnmu nu mnmun runa omwm. OKWW
mewu 

OEWN Hmuhmm Honmnmu 03 Emzm0nu den.w wn 
mod nonuwm om Bunnrm Mm Hmmq. munm Faun nm? wn n?m 
mum Ozww mun won? mnwm?mn nu?mm H: an.m nu?nw awnww Hn nO?wn
. Um ?wmu 03w? mmuwmm. um Wmmwu no.

o?ww n?omw aEWUHanmm on noonw?m ?rm? 5m 
n?m 5mmn.mow 

 

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n?wm DEMW nwmn.mon? mwnuwm.muwm wimw muua
MO momz EOOUPWH. IMMUNHWZOEMHH mmw? :mnw?m

?wr
. ?wm: i?onmwv. ?anw 03mm :U?mHmunom no Gm Noam
. mwmo new? Oiwm aim? Hm memwmm-omm.mhum Eoowbrb
-n mama awa.vmmu.nrnonmw mwwa stinky? ionwm n?wmn
.. moan .
.05 Dam 03mm war nnwu :Ha 
moomww? Mum? nuuwown Omw 0m mw m?nm.m 
wrnu OKWN pm Wm x?m? madmOum no Haw nuumuuw
03mm nuwm Tm arm ?uw mum naum mowm vn no
mnamunm mwma.
mum? ww mum nm?m um a mzuno
- .m anumu-npuwnm:mu _uuLw w?uw uuww mum?
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Wm<m ?0??.hom Nun in 

cannunum no awn

xowwamn oamH .oaomxuohm?x~our?n Hm

 
 

can ?uoamww.= ozww 
nun mm.an nwmum 0m nou?pmn

yum ?mnuv 
can mn and. umenn
Mu .

::mvmo no Emma mama ENE
nwobmwwu Hun moouwbv.nvmn

   
  

Mum

Hun

mmpamn mum nwano 

noHQ ozhm n?Wn zmenwu ?aw. ?30 os?mm Umn Mn
nwnw?u. 02mm ENE ?O?nw mow ahdm mmWn. oxww. woan.nmmn?m ?nwum
mm?m cuxuu?nu. Md?mo m.w.m. urnu. mum onm 



mum DHWN 
mum ?own Hwy nUm%_Hma m? noum mum ?own

. ?wmu wenm mam amn_mOH nan man

oxww mn? MOON w?n ?rm znanmn Emu

main.?



ww: wh mm .?n?muwmu.
pm nwu.wma anomwmm.wua wum_UmH.ma.nwanU. 03km nm<mu
umnqumn mum ?unmw mow munm on 

rmu noavmunamun on :ruau= p3 
Han mun? muowm..iwwnw um Hmmowm no ?Hyman nm rhvo.m. o?wm
mmua wunx ram "Wm numw mu nmuamm?xmnmumu m?u?.w0nmuwn
mm mum om mumu? wn
ogrm mwmo mun whaywo no mun 
nHme. nu an
nxo-mmou . . 

H5 wmmu~ o?uwu.m m?won nHun". 03mm mwoqm 
nnunx mm ammw wmamw an mmwmu ?ddm mmwou. 
oxym.mnm imHm man wUmumm nan mwM0n_
nmwauan muudm 6% mum munwxvam uzw
Eu on: Ewm Hnu??mn um ?um mroonwum.. .

nvmnuwunnwun Mu om
awan. on 03m wmcm.w 03mm mum nu 
moan mum wam ocunmm 0w anw?mm Wm wmw?mmww nun
won mam on ?mnm. 0?mm mow ma?u mun 
ncunmw am nunwwum.

m0 me no
amwx: nmumwmm nnwawmmw Wm mmumeMm m?u anmmw. Mum
iowxmu can

mwmu nucmm mun: waunwn awwm Emu
wwdwu 0n Human wn n?unmmn. 03w kuaw manna mm mwcmumw? d?m
5w3wuwu.m :mm z??uuLn wwun 

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namcwm.
iwnw mmeHmm nommwm mmnm.
ozww. WMwomHma am.numwwuw mana.nrm zmanmn.amwm
305mm 03 Emma?. .

namamw mum.moumunumm canw

no m,x.

nonwnum 0m Emu



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wu umwm. .ozbm.xnn? umwmoz (mm 
unwm ozwm wwonn mum ammnw?m mn awn 
cwwnu Umvmoz.m?a Wmm.w o4mH mhum wannm.

wn.3Hm Mn -0?mwu_m 
wam ou?nmw an mom mwmno Hm wm
.m&2.on um?muww 

mo?Mmmonmm . ozww mumo
"on nonww?w umanw<ma an n?mmwn.wvw. anmH. mwmno 
ma wm?w?wopww :wnm GaunNm 0m nonmwum. umwmoz 
no wm rm Gm new: no mun? 33 man.

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mum DN?mnm 03?? HD m?mmw? UMWMOE iwnw
0m nonmwum~_wnn oxww .wmrmoz 394mm
vmwu OEEN Hmamwuwum mmnn. ozrw Umwwu mung 
nuwm Umwmoz mum? wm mum .0n.hm?w ?u 03mm won
n?n .

u?nwum namdmummnwomm imuw UK 9
iwuwnmm. 02mm mam arm
ozwm. Hn_nw0mm nnh<wuuwnhoum. Ome mun
=an: mm 1mm inum mow.mn? nommwam oxww
:mm mOHa no FMOZ. . . .

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um mummuwnu pm. as? man mvun wn. pmnmu
wmw?nmw ?awn ?Hm nunnWNuwm wwuuw nnm?nuuw 0m ?mhuw?wa.

nu mumnwu nu anmu sum ?adv;
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nUm mudm mme mnua 

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MEEDZEANOWSKI also related his iutentiona to escane fram
CHAR-that he knew security was tight
at the MCC, so'he intended to make a mov?.during to tie
feceral building; spacifically faking illness or a heart attack.
added that in the event he were tak?n.ta receive
meczcal attenticn. it wOuld mas: likalv be to Hasni*a1
what: he would have'friends and family:waiti_ to assist him. - 

further confided E: CPD pos'wALLE

ad DENEIS some by M:znzzagowsxz's house since his

p1

.E;Yes: and had-synken ad them on the phone'durina
Le egh ne calls'zo his wife: 

0. told GMAR that SMITH
and sac gzven family mon=V. .

and to 
CHAR saw-them in a polic?
:Dl? CHAR that if OMAR
t3 QQ anything with :uem, as were incereSEEd. SMITH
.could be'as good as this" and pointed to the backsea: of
gar: OMAR saw threa-kilbgrams ci cacaize. SMITE and
had heard-Er CHAR was

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that he-was glad CHER was "hanging in :1
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OMAR beliaved.that-t:
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womwm on 03m madam Em
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aruunw? wumwnmu 

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Internal Affairs 20 Dec 2012

Records Section
Rivera Ir. 
012 4428
Complaint History- Reynaldo Guevara, Stephen Gawrys, Daniel Noon, John Guzman, Imp]! Fallon, Joseph
Sparks, Paul Zacharias, Gillian McLaughlin, John Leonard Jr? Edward Mingey, Russel] and
Room Rinaldl

01January2000t020Deoember 2007

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