Pages l~41 BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION CASE NO.: 2017~0248 INTERVIEW OF POLICE OFFICER JOSEPH DEANGELO Requested By: Office of the Legal Advisor Held at: Boston Police Headquarters - 1 Schroeder Plaza Boston, Massachusetts 02120 Taken on: June 12, 2017 A A A Sergeant Juan Estevez Boston Police Department Internal Affairs Division 1 Schroeder Plaza Boston, MA Lieutenant Detective Brian McEachern Boston Police Department Internal Affairs Division 1 Schroeder Plaza Boston, MA Kenneth Anderson, Esquire Police Officer Joseph DeAngelo Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 I Inquired of: By Sergeant Estevez By Lieutenant Detective McEachern By Mr. Pasciucco Pages 22 31 Leo Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 June 12, 2017 12:24 p.m. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, June 12, 2017. The time is now 12:24 p.m. My name is Sergeant Juan Estevez. My last name is spelled Ewat?edvd e?z, and I am a sergeant assigned as an Internal Affairs Investigator. This is a recorded interview with Boston Police Officer Joseph DeAngelo. This interview is being conducted within the offices of the Internal Affairs Division on the third floor of Boston Police Headquarters, located at One Schroeder Plaza, Boston. Assisting me today is Lieutenant Detective Brian McEachern. Sir, would you please introduce yourself and spell your last name for the record? LIEUTENANT DETECTIVE MCEACHERN: Lieutenant Detective Brian McEachern. My last name is spelled M?c?E?a?c?h?e?r?n. I'm assigned as an Internal Affairs Investigator. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Thank you, sir. Also in the room is Police Officer Joseph Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 DeAngelo. Sir, would you please introduce yourself and spell your last name for the record? POLICE OFFICER DEANGELO: Officer Joseph DeAngelo, D?e?A?n?g?e?l?o. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Thank you, sir. Officer DeAngelo, are you aware that we are making an audio recording of this interview? POLICE OFFICER Yes, I am. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Thank you. Also in the room is Attorney Ken Anderson acting as Officer DeAngelo's legal advisor. Sir, would you please introduce yourself, spell your last name and state your title for the record? MR. ANDERSON: Attorney Kenneth Anderson, Awn?d?e?r?s?o?n. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Thank you, sir. Officer DeAngelo, you are required to answer all questions asked of you honestly and truthfully and to the best of your knowledge. Failure to do so could result in disciplinary action, up to and including termination. The Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 intentional making of false statements or reports and/or the intentional omission of significant or pertinent facts is considered untruthfulness and will be treated as such. Prior to the interview starting, you were given the opportunity to read the Police Commissioner's Memo 10?007, dated January 20, 2010. Did you read the memo? POLICE OFFICER Yes, I did. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Did you understand the memo? POLICE OFFICER Yes. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Do you have any questions pertaining to the memo? POLICE OFFICER NO. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Thanks. INTERVIEW OF POLICE OFFICER JOSEPH INQUIRED OF BY SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Q. Officer DeAngelo, do you know why you're here today, sir? Yes, I do. I would like to start with some background information. What is your department id and badge Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 number for the record? My badge number is 1780 and my id is 100415. And how long have you been a Boston Police Officer? Since January, 2013. Have you held any other positions with the Boston Police Department? No. And what is your current assignment? How long have you been assigned there? Since April, 2014. And what shift do you work? The first half. Officer DeAngelo, are you familiar with the one minute video that aired on Fox 25 News on Friday, June 9th? Yes. And in your own words can you explain to us everything you know about the Video? I know there's a video that I made making fun of one of my friends. Who made the video? I did. Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 You did, okay, and when did you make the video? Two weeks ago. I don't know the exact date but around two weeks, I think. And where did you make the video? I put it together when I was sitting in the back parking lot together, sir? There's a template that comes standard on iPhones and you just plug things into the template and that's it. Did anyone assist you making this video? No. And what type of software what type of template did you use? It's an app that comes standard on iPhones. So your phone comes with that application? Yes. And did it cost you anything to make this video? No, it did not. Did Officer Leahy participate in the making of this video in any way? No, he did not. And how did you get these pictures and videos? I've known him my whole life. I've had them on my Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 phone from different instances. And what was the purpose of this video? Just to make fun of him like friends do. Did you forward, give or send this video to anyone outside of the Boston Police Department? Yes, I did. To who, sir? Friends from home. And what are their names? I've got them written down. MR. ANDERSON: We kind of went through this, so when he says from home, he grew up in the- section of -, so I mean, do you want to he thinks this is a complete list. He?s gone back and deleted the text message but there's a group of POLICE OFFICER Are you ready? Yes, sir. Dennis Leahy, David McDonald, Brian Doherty, Jr. MR. ANDERSON: And those three are on the job. Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 MR. ANDERSON: It' 3 just the first three that are on the job. The rest are firefighters, electricians ?w actually, there's a civilian in the IT unit in there, John Donovan, a couple of National Grid guys, somebody in the Coast Guard, an unemployed veteran and then a mix of his childhood friends. SERGEANT DETECTIVE ESTEVEZ: Thanks. And how did you disseminate this to them? Text message. By text message through the phone? Yes. Did you forward the Video to the media? No. Do you know of anyone that forwarded this video to anyone else outside the Boston Police Department? Not that anyone has told me, no. And you said you forwarded it to Police Officer Leahy, the video? Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 Yes. He's part of the group text message that were all in there. Did Police Officer Leahy know you were making the video about him? No, he did not. Did you get Officer Leahy's permission to make this video? No, I did not. Did Officer Leahy agree to be in the video? No. And when did Officer Leahy find out you had made the video? When I sent it to the group text message. This was like a group text, so everybody received it at the same time? Yeah. I mean, what time he read it I don't know, but I sent it to them at the same time. You sent it, okay, at the same time to everyone. Did Officer Leahy agree with the content of the video? I don't understand the question. What do you mean? Well, what did he say about the video? I don't think he said anything specifically. He Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 was the butt of the joke. I guess he would not have agreed with the content of the video. And why is there a reference to black people in the video? We work in a primarily African?American district, and he works in 8?2 as well, and that was it. And that's why there's a reference because you guys work together at Yeah. Did Officer Leahy agree with the reference to black people in the video? No. Did Officer Leahy tell you at any time not to make the video? No, but he wouldn't have had an opportunity to tell me to stop doing something. Did Officer Leahy at any time tell you not to release or forward the video to anyone? I can't remember. Did Officer Leahy at any time ask you to remove the reference to black people in the video? No. Was Officer Leahy involved in any way in the making of the video? Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 84843693 No. Was Officer Leahy involved in the conceiving of the idea of the contents of the video? No. And who conceived the idea of conCeiving the video? I did. Are you aware of anyone forwarding the video internally to other Boston Police employees or city employees? I don't know. And when did you first hear that the video was public knowledge? Like on the news? Um?hmm. That night, that Friday. MR. ANDERSON: You mentioned this was made about two weeks ago, but you found out this past Friday, which would have been June THE WITNESS: Yeah, June -M MR. ANDERSON: Was it the 9th or 10th? SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: The 9th. Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 MR. ANDERSON: June 9th. Have you made any other videos like this one? No. Have you made any other videos with racial or gender related content? No. At the start of the video, the introduction, it says "sharp cheddar studio." Is that familiar to you? It's a joke. Officer Leahy's nickname is "cheese," so I was just putting a reference to cheese in there. So this is not like a studio or group of people that do these type of videos or anything like that? No. The video shows a group of people running at the beginning. Who are these people? That was Officer Leahy's Boston Police academy class. And then it goes on in the text, "In the fight between good and evil." The purpose of that statement or what did you mean by that? Nothing really. It was just kind of like ?m I Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 can't think of the term like a common phrase that I guess could be used when referencing the good work that we're supposed to do. And right after that statement there who's that person that comes up? There's a picture of a male balding with like mm I can't remember. I have a picture of it. Oh, that's my friend Mike. And who's Mike? He's a firefighter, Michael Ball, again, just making fun of him. And he would be the evil? Yeah, sure. Then a male in what appears to be a Boston Police uniform comes up and appears to have a Boston Police radio on. Who is that? That's Officer Dennis Leahy. And in this picture here is he in a police cruiser? Yeah. I took that picture of him in a police cruiser some weeks or months ago. I'm not sure of the exact date. We happened to be working together that night. Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 And why did you use this picture is there any reason you used this picture with the uniform on in this video? No particular reason. It's just a picture I had of him. And the next picture that comes up would be the same person, which is Officer Dennis Leahy. Officer Leahy, yeah. The text here says, "Dennis 'cheese' Leahy." Yeah. That's his nickname. And you stated that's his nickname, okay. Yeah. And then it goes on to say that he's a "chronic masturbator." Is there anything It's just a joke. We make fun of him about things like that. He?s like a nervous kid. And that's him with the sunglasses and a white tank top? Yeah, Officer Leahy. And did you take this picture? Yes. That was from some years ago before he was a police officer. And then the text comes up in the video, Charlie, Romeo, Echo, Echo, Papa, Yankee." What Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 did you mean by that in the video? Again, just making fun of him. And just making fun of whom? Officer Leahy. And there's a small clip that comes after and he appears to be in a vehicle. Yes. Is that a police vehicle? Yes, it is. And do you know who his partner was that day, who's on the passenger side? I don't know. I wasn't even sure if there was someone in there. i can't remember. And you know who took this clip? Yeah, I knew that. And then the video goes on to show a text that says, "Inept cop" and a dog with a limp become the most unlikely duo." Making fun of Dennis Leahy with the inept comment, and the dog with the limp is in reference to a dog that Officer Leahy struck with a vehicle at one point, just making fun of him again. And that's followed up with a male wearing sunglasses, apparently on top of a tractor naked. Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 Oh, yeah. That was a photo?shopped picture of Officer Leahy. So is this a cropped picture? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is not him. That's like a weird picture that can be found on the internet. And then there's a person in a pool, like a small clip of a Video. He's bringing someone up. Oh, yeah, yeah, I think w? do you have that? I think it might be my friend? So that's not He?s not a police officer. And what was the purpose of that part in the video? Just to fill the time frame or whatever it was. Then the Video moves on to a picture of a person wearing That's a photo?shopped picture again. That's my friend - He's not wearing anything. It's just his head put on top of Is this like a military helmet? Yeah. It's from when he was in the army. And then with the body of a bear. Yeah. It just makes no sense. There's really no purpose to it. Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 And this is not Officer Leahy? No, no, no, no. Why would you put this picture in this video? Again, just like to fill space. I'm kind of just making fun of one of my other friends who was listed in this thing here who it was sent to. And then the video shows a Boston Police barrier with the words "suck" on it. It appears to be spray paint. Yeah. Did you take this picture? I took the picture. That was a barrier assigned to me at the Marathon. I thought it was funny that someone had done that. And the purpose of this picture in the video? Making fun of me and making fun of police officers. Then the video shows a small clip of about four African~American males. Yeah. One is standing up and three appear to be on the floor. Did you take this video? Yeah, I did. And it appears to be from a moving vehicle. Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 8489693 19 Yeah. I was at work driving by and there were a couple of gentleman who we encounter on a regular basis who sleep in that doorway. And why did you take this video? I don?t know. There's really no reason behind it. And why did you add this clip to this video? To fill time. And right after this clip the words, "This summer black people have met their match." Yes. And what was the purpose of that statement? Again, just making fun of Officer Leahy and myself really. As far as I'm concerned, it's meaningless. I don't believe any of what's on that page. And this was followed up by a picture of four African?American females dressed in what appears to be carnival costumes. Did you take that picture? No. That was a Google image that was found on the internet. And can you tell us why were African?American males and females depicted right before and right after that text message, "This summer black people Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 have met their match?" It's just speaking to, like I mentioned earlier, the fact that is primarily an African?American neighborhood and that's where we work. Officer DeAngelo, do you have any personal biases against African?Americans? No, I do not. Against any minority group? No. Do you think that all AfricanwAmericans are criminals? No, sir. Do you think that all AfricaDPAmericans are evil? No. Was this video intended as a threat towards the AfricanwAmerican community? By no means, no. Are you a member or are you affiliated with any type of hate group, and let me define hate group, social group that advocates and practices hatred, hostility and violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, nation, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation or any other designated sector of the society? Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 No, sir. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Lieutenant Detective McEachern, do you have any questions or clarifications for Officer DeAngelo? LIEUTENANT DETECTIVE MCEACHERN: Just a couple of questions. INQUIRED 0F BY LIEUTENANT DETECTIVE MCEACHERN: Q. Lieutenant McEachern for the record. You stated that you made the Video to make fun of Police Officer Dennis Leahy. Can you explain what your purpose was and how that was intended to make fun of him? Oh, it just kind of plays on several of the things playing on his personality, you know, and the way he carries himself. He's kind of a nervous individual. I don't know, the whole thing was just making fun of him. Have you made previous videos making fun of him? No, sir. And you said that you made the video in the parking lot of District 2. Yes, sir. Was anyone with you when you were making the Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 84843693 video? No, sir. And were you on or off duty when you were making the video? I was on duty, sir. And were you in a police car or a personal car? Police car. And you said that there was an app that came standard on an iPhone to make the video. Yes, sir. It's like a template. Do you know what the name of the app is? It's iMovie. How long ago did you make the video? A couple weeks, two or three weeks ago maybe. And there were pictures of Police Officer Dennis Leahy that were in the video and some of them had him in a police cruiser. Were you in the police cruiser with him when you took those pictures? When he was sitting in the cruiser? Yeah. Yes, I was. Were you riding together or just We were. They were all compiled over time. They weren't all taken that day. Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 know you were going to did he know you were taking the pictures of him or the video at the time? I think he knew, but he didn't know that I was going to make anything of it like this. And you sent the video as a group text? That's correct. And one of the persons on the group was Dennis Leahy? Yes. Did he respond to that in any way? Specifically, I can't remember. I don't think he was happy with me that I had done it, though. And do you still have the messages and can you check to see what his response was? No, sir, I do not. And there were two other people. The first two names on the list were Boston Police Officers? That's correct. Did any of them make a response to you about this video? Specifically, I can't remember. There's so many people in it, and we have different walks of life and different jobs at this point and some of us Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 have kids. We're not all immediately responding at one time or another anything specifically. Do you remember if Dennis Leahy told you to take the video down or do anything with it? MR. ANDERSON: Well, I mean, I don't know if he can take it down once its been sent. It wasn't like posted on an internet platform or Facebook. It wasn't on Facebook or anything like that. Do you remember if Dennis Leahy or the other two Boston Police Department employees made any statement that this was inappropriate and it shouldn't have been disseminated? I don't even know if they saw it immediately. I don't know. I can't remember. You made the video about two weeks ago. Is that about the same time you sent it out? Yeah, I made it and I sent it. It took a total of about five minutes. You didn?t use any Boston Police Department equipment when you made the video? No, sir. Do you know how the video got released to the media? Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 No. You made a reference at the beginning of the video about good versus evil and you have all the pictures and stuff that were inserted in between and then it says, "This summer black people have met their match." What did you mean by that statement? It really didn't mean anything. I don't know. Are you referring to black people as evil? No. Do you believe that black people are criminals? No. Do you believe that in the course of your duties because you work in an area that's described as predominantly black that your job is a fight against black people? No. Why would you add that in the video then? I don't know, it was MR. ANDERSON: Could we just take a quick pause? LIEUTENANT DETECTIVE MCEACHERN: Yeah. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Pausing at the Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 8489693 request of the attorney. It's 12:49 p.m. (Whereupon, a brief recess was taken.) SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: We're back on the record. The time is now 12:52 p.m. LIEUTENANT DETECTIVE MCEACHERN: This is Lieutenant McEachern still asking questions for the record. Officer DeAngelo, at the beginning of the video that you made it had a statement "good versus evil" and at the end of the video it had a statement, "This summer black people have met their match." Can you explain what you meant by that statement? I didn't mean anything by it. The good versus evil thing was more just a cliche that could fill a slide as if it were the trailer for a movie. I don't believe any of what was in the video. It was taken out of context, and it certainly was insensitive and it was distasteful, but it was not meant to offend anyone. And you described that some of your reasoning in the video was a result of you and Dennis Leahy working in a predominantly AfricanHAmerican Lee 8: Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 community. There was a reference to good versus evil. Do you feel that African?Americans are evil? No, sir. I work with a lot of good people from all different races, creeds and colors, and I take a great deal of pride in working in 8?2 and working for the people who call and working for the people in a proactive way. As I said, I take a great deal of pride in that neighborhood and in doing my job the correct way. And you stated that you made the video as a way of making fun of Police Officer Dennis Leahy. Can you describe how this video was intended to make fun of him? You kind of have to know him. Even just putting him in this situation would make him uncomfortable and he's that member of our group of friends that like that's just how we make fun of him, and he does the same to us in different Ways, but yeah. And can you explain how the phrase, "This summer black people have met their match" is a way to make fun of him? Well, he's not really a match for anyone. That's definitely the match part. It was kind of Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 referencing the fact that put it this way. When he first started working and when he was in the academy, I was getting calls from him every night asking what do I do here, what do I do there. I've helped him on a lot of his l?l's because he has to get off on the tangents and stuff and he's just he's a great kid but he's not very confident in himself, a lot of times not sure of himself. And what does that have to do with black people? Nothing. Why was it added into the video? Well, like I said earlier, it's because we work in a predominantly AfricanmAmerican neighborhood. And can you explain what you mean by that statement? Which statement? You referenced black people and you said it had no meaning but you work in a predominantly African? American community. The community that we work in a lot of Cape Verdean and a lot of Haitian people are African? American people. It was more referencing our work environment. It wasn't meant to reference anyone Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848u9693 negative way in any way, shape or form. And do you feel that black people are evil? No, I do not. And do you feel that black people are criminals? No, sir. You said that you believe the video was taken out of context. Can you explain what you mean by that statement? Well, the whole thing is distasteful no matter what way you shake it, but it wasn't meant to offend any particular group of people. If it was going to offend anyone, it was going to offend Officer Leahy, that's it. And have you made any videos prior to this that reference black people? No, sir. LIEUTENANT DETECTIVE MCEACHERN: I don't have any further questions. INQUIRED OF BY SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Q. One more question. Do you remember the exact date you sent the video? No, sir, I do not. And are any other people on this list African? Americans that you sent the video to? Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 No, sir. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Thanks. Any questions? LIEUTENANT DETECTIVE MCEACHERN: Attorney Anderson, is there anything you?d like to ask? MR. ANDERSON: If I could just ask a couple questions. INQUIRED 0F BY MR. ANDERSON: Q. Officer DeAngelo, in terms of Officer Leahy, you've known him since childhood? Yes. And it's fair to say that the list of people are all mostly childhood friends who it was sent to? Yes. And when you sent it, did you intend it to be within this, you know, small to medium size group and not to be sent to anybody beyond that? I expected it to remain within my group of friends. Now, the app that was used to make this Video, did one of your friends first discover that or how did you first become aware of that app? One of my friends made mention of it. Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 you know when that was in relationship to when you made this Video? Like right around the same time, Within 15 to 20 minutes. And of your group of friends, had other people made videos also kind of mocking other friends? Yes. And how many videos do you think total had come out of your group of friends? Three including this one. So there were two videos made by people in this group using this app and then you said i'm going to take a stab at it and you made one making fun of Officer Leahy? Yes, that's correct. You sent it thinking it was just going to this select group of friends and it wasn't going to be disseminated beyond that? That's correct. Do you have any Facebook account? No. Twitter or any social media at all? No. Do you comment on political things on the internet Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 all? No, not at all. Now, you agree with me that the reference in there to "black people met their match" was inappropriate and distasteful? Extremely, yes. Have you had any complaints about working in the area in terms of dealing with minorities? As far as I'm aware, I don't believe I've ever had a complaint. And do you try to treat everybody fairly and the same regardless of the color of their skin or where they're from? Yes. Have you ridden with African?American partners? Yes, I have. And who were those? My first partner at Bw2 was Samora Lopes. He's in the gang unit now. I think we rode together for like six months. And what about in the academy, did you have, you know, a diverse group of friends at the academy? Yeah. I sat next to Conrad Dalton, who is actually at now. I have a good relationship Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 with Conrad. We sat right next-to each other. Now, you told me when we met earlier today that there was actually someone who gave you a nickname at the academy. Well, she works at the academy now. She gave me a nickname when I was in Hyde Park. And who was that and what was the nickname? Daphne Orion, and she called me "day?day." And was that supposed to be some type of African? American nickname or something? That's what she told me it was. In terms of this video, when you found out, what was your reaction, when you found out that it had been sent to somebody else and made the media? Well, I haven't slept much. I haven't eaten much. Iim pretty ashamed of myself and extremely sorry if I offended anyone. It certainly wasn't meant to offend anyone. In our conversations over the weekend, certainly on Friday when this came out I can tell you're nervous here and you're not really articulating, but you understand the perception and how this looks for the department? Yup, I do, I do. I understand it, especially with Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 the light that's been shed on policing in recent years in this country. MR. ANDERSON: I don't have any other questions. INQUIRED OF BY SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Q. Regarding the other two Videos, what were they about? Oh, just our friends, but I can't remember. I don't even know if I actually watched like the whole things. Were they related to this or similar to this Video? No, no, no. It was the same app but they were all completely separate. And regarding social media, have you ever had other accounts open before? Yes, I have. In the past two weeks have you closed any of your accounts? I closed an Instagram account. And how long ago was that? Like after I heard this went to the news. When it went on the news you closed it? Yeah, I did. Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 that? A. Because I have pictures of my family and my friends and my girlfriend and I on there, and I didn't want anyone getting their pictures all over the place. I didn't want someone finding my name and searching it and having my family on Fox 25. Q. And regarding the nickname that you got, can you explain what kind of nickname was that "day? day" was it? A. Yeah. Q. And you say it was kind of an African?American nickname? A. Well, I don't know. That's what Daphne told me. Q. be you know what she meant by that? A. I don't know. Daphne is African?American. I don't know what she meant by it, but we have a very good relationship. I don't know, that's what she calls me. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Lieutenant, any other questions? INQUIRED 0F BY LIEUTENANT DETECTIVE MCEACHERN: Q. I just have one question in regards to your Instagram account. I understand you closed it for privacy purposes and your family and friends, but Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 was there anything racially insensitive that you think was something that you were trying to not get disseminated? No, sir. There was nothing similar to Video on your Instagram account? Nope. LIEUTENANT DETECTIVE MCEACHERN: I don't have any further questions. MR. ANDERSON: Just for the tape, I reached out yesterday with the suggestion, you know, if there's a Facebook or something because me, personally, I was able for a long time to keep my personal life separate from my work, but I don?t know, maybe two years ago I became friends with Mike Leary on Facebook, and then I get like 10 requests a day from cops that I didn't want to accept but I kind of had to, and I've seen how cops go back and forth kind of mocking each other over Trump or Hillary, and it's amusing but sometimes I kind of cringe when I see some of the stuff that's posted up there, and I was concerned, you know, if there's up there to Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 delete that, and I was told by Officer DeAngelo that in the academy he had an account just to keep track of things, because that's how things were scheduled between people in the academy, but there's no pictures, there's no posts, there's nothing? POLICE OFFICER DEANGELO: NO. I don't think I ever actually was able to use it. I just don't really care for Facebook. MR. ANDERSON: So, you know, that's not a concern, and my concern is, you know, what if the media finds out who it is, looks and then there's other stuff up there, and he?s just not that guy, you know, and the people that I've spoken to at speak highly of him and there's no issues that we were ever concerned about. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Thank you. Officer DeAngelo, do you have any other questions today, sir? POLICE OFFICER NO, I don't think so. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Is there anything that I have not asked you or Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693 anything that we haven?t touched on that you think may aid us in this investigation? POLICE OFFICER NO. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Is there anything that you'd like to addlr sir? POLICE OFFICER Yeah. I try to treat everyone no matter What their background is or what their life story is the way I want to be treated. That's kind of the way I was raised, and there's a lot of people in my life that have instilled in me tolerance and acceptance, and I'm not a bigoted person, and I certainly am not a racist. That's it. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Would you like to change or clarify any response to any questions? POLICE OFFICER NO, I don?t think so. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: Have you answered everything truthfully and to the best of your knowledge today? POLICE OFFICER Yes, sir. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: During the Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 course of the investigation, there may be a need to bring some individuals back in for follow~up questions, so there is a chance that we could ask you to come back in to answer more questions in the future. Okay? POLICE OFFICER Okay. SERGEANT ESTEVEZ: All right. Thank you for your time. This interview is now concluded and the time is now 1:06 p.m. (Whereupon, the interview was concluded at 1:06 Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848-9693 41 I I A I, Linda Lee, a Certified Verbatim Court Reporter and Notary Public in and for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, do hereby certify that the transcript of an audiotape hereinbefore set forth, containing 41 pages, was duly transcribed under my direction to the best of my knowledge, skills, and ability. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 29th day of June, 2017. Linda Lee, Notary Public My Commission Expires January 14, 2022 Lee Associates Certified Court Reporters (781) 848?9693