JERRY E, ABHAMSON
MAYOR

LOUISVILLE AND JEFFERSON COUNTY

CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN UNIT

Re:
Victim:
Address:
Location:
Date:
Time:
Suspect:
Address:

File:

Subject:

Submitted By:

Captain Myra Mason
Commander

Ma'am:

 

436 South Seventh Street
Louisville, Kentucky 40203
(502)588-2485
(502)588-2098

County JudgefExeoutive

October 23, 1993

Juvenile Sex Crime

Days Inn at 1620 Arthur Street.
Between March and August, 1993.

,Various

Jerry Lawler

93?1468
Initial Information, Initial
Interview Initial
Interview (Victim),
Initial Interview 
Initial Interview 
Initial Interview 
Initial Interview 
Photographs at Days Inn?Arthur
Street, Investigation at Holiday
Motel?Indiana, Initial Interview

Initial Interview

Initial Interview

(Days Inn?Hamburg, IN),

Initial Interview 
Initial Interview Initial
Interview Initial
Interview . Initial
Interview Follow?up
Interview Interviews
at Louisville Gardens, Follow?up
Interview of 

Follow?up Interview
(Victim), Follow-up Interview

Initial Interview Jerry
Lawler (Suspect), Initial Interview

Detective Tracy A. Schiller

"An Equal Opportunity Employer"

Captain Myra Mason
October 23, 1993
Page Two

INITIAL INFORMATION.

On 9~20?93 the undersigned received Case #93-1468. The
case narrative stated that the victim had reported having
sexual intercourse with the suspect and another individual
named Bill Marino. The narrative also included allegations
of oral sodomy taking place between the victim and the
suspect and the other white male, Bill Marino.

On 9?23?93 the victim and her mother came to the CACU
office for an interview.

INITIAL INTERVIEW:

On 9?23?93 at approximately 1625 hrs. the Victim and
her mother, came to the CACU office to be
interviewed. Present during the interview were the
undersigned and Det. Mike Redmond with the CACU office.

The victim's mother, was interviewed
first. was a white female with a date of birth of
She resides at with her
daughter and other children. stated that this

first came to light to her the Thursday prior to the 20th.
On that day the Victim was to be home at 2130 hrs. When
failed to return at that time, a family friend named
went looking for her. He first checked at the
child's grandmother's and then another girlfriend's house,

that girl's name being . then went to

East St. Catherine to check on . He located her there
and confronted her about being sexually involved with the
boy that lives at that address, . admitted
this, and after doing so asked if she was

involved with anyone else, and she replied yes. When asked
who, she stated Jerry Lawler and Bill Martin.

had relayed this information to
mother along with the fact that another young girl, named
was with her on several of these occasions.
stated that she didn't know what to do or how to handle the
situation, and called CACU and filed a report.

stated that she confronted her daughter about
these allegations. Her daughter told her that she in fact
did have sexual relations with both Jerry Lawler and Bill
Marino and that each time she had these relations they were
of a consensual nature. Her daughter told her that she had
met both gentlemen at the wrestling matches that she
regularly attends at the Louisville Gardens. also
told her mother that she engaged in sodomy and intercourse

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October 23, 1993
Page Three

with both subjects and that alcohol was involved on some of
these occasions.

stated she then called mother. She
said that had mentioned that she and both had
been together on several of these occasions and she wanted
to verify this with and her mother. mother
had spoke with her about this, and on 9?21?93 mother
and mother spoke to one another and found that the

girls did confirm each other's stories.

The undersigned and Det. Redmond then moved to
interview the victim.

INITIAL INTERVIEW: (VICTIM).

On 9-23?93 at approximately 1655 hrs., the undersigned
and Det. Redmond interviewed at the CACU
office. is a white female with a date of birth of

She resides at with her mother
and siblings. seemed a bit shy or reserved initially
in the interview, however, was not hesitant in supplying any

detail when asked.

stated that on May 26th she and were
picked up in front of the Louisville Gardens by Jerry
Lawler. She stated that Mr. Lawler was driving a black
Blazer with tinted windows. Once picked up, Lawler took
them to the Days Inn in Sellersburg, Indiana. Upon arriving
at the Days Inn they entered his room, and immediately upon
entering the room, Mr. Lawler took off his clothes and told
them not to be scared. He then told them it was time to get

naked. stated that she and left their clothes
on and all three of them got onto the bed. After a brief
period, Lawler took hand and placed it on his

genitals. She began masturbating him at this time and then
he asked her to put her lips down there. She stated she was
hesitant to do this at first, but finally did, and she
performed oral sodomy on him. Lawler then wanted to
do the same, and she did. After was through engaging
in oral sodomy with Mr. Lawler, they all laid in bed and
talked. stated she recalled Lawler calling someone
in Tennessee and told whoever he was speaking to about two
lovely girls he had in his room. Mr. Lawler then took both
girls to a local Taco Bell and then to the Value City in
Clarksville, Indiana. While at the Value City in
Clarksville, stated that she and and Jerry
Lawler were seen by a young man who regularly attends
Tuesday night wrestling at Louisville Gardens. She stated
she did not know his name but that she and both

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October 23, 1993
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talked to the boy and the boy also got Mr. Lawler's
autograph. After leaving Value City, Lawler dropped both
girls back to the vicinity of Louisville Gardens at
approximately 1340 hrs. This was a Wednesday and a regular
school day of which both girls had cut.

went on to say that on June 6, 1993 she met with
Mr. Lawler again. She stated that Lawler, along with

and left Louisville Gardens in car that
evening after wrestling. and
followed in car. Both carloads went to

the Days Inn at 1620 Arthur Street, where Mr. Lawler
registered. He registered in Room 106, where Lawler put his
belongings, and then they all left and went to the nearby

McDonald's. After eating, and took Mr.
Lawler back to his hotel. and left
the restaurant and told she was going to
spend the night with a friend and had drop her off
at Brook and Hill Street. stated that in fact she

did not know anyone that lived in that area but her plan
was to walk back to the hotel and meet with Jerry Lawler.
After being dropped off, did in fact walk to the Days
Inn on Arthur Street and went to Lawler's room. There she
spent the night in the room with Mr. Lawler, where they had
sexual intercourse and performed oral sodomy on each other.
stated that Lawler left the next morning, that being
6?7~93 at approximately 0630 to 0700 hrs. and then she left
the room at approximately 0730 hrs. From this location she
went to house and they both cut school that
day. stated she had told about having sexual
intercourse with Lawler while they were together that day.

went on to say that on July 7, 1993 she met with
Lawler again. At approximately 0630 hrs. she left her home
and went to the Days Inn on Arthur Street and met him in
Room 200. stated they were laying in bed nude
kissing and talking and she performed oral sodomy on him.
She stated that when she originally arrived at the room
Lawler was on the telephone and had her go to the bathroom
and wait until he got off the phone, after which she came
into the room and they removed their clothes and performed
the above mentioned acts. stated that there were no
other incidents that she was involved with concerning Jerry
Lawler. then began telling of the incidents

concerning Bill Martin.

stated that on June 26, 1993 she and
met Bill Martin at the Dizzy Whiz around 3rd and St.
Catherine. He then took them to the Holiday Motel in
Jeffersonville, Indiana. She believed the room number to

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October 23, 1993
Page Five

be #3 or 4 but was uncertain as to the room number. Before
arriving at the room, Bill Martin bought some beer and the
three of them went to his hotel room and began drinking and
talking. After a short while, Mr. Martin took his clothes
off and was lying on the bed kissing and wanted her
to take her clothes off. She did so and after which they
engaged in sexual intercourse. stated that was
watching TV while this was going on. stated that
after she and Mr. Martin completed the sex act she went to
the bathroom while and he had sexual intercourse.

said she also met with Mr. Martin sometime
between June and June 6th of '93. She stated that she
met Bill Martin and they went to the same hotel in
Jeffersonville. She also said that he had bought"B??rmEHiS'
time as the last time and after arriving at the room and
drinking they got in bed together and took their clothes
off. She stated that once nude, Mr. Martin got on top of
her and attempted to have intercourse with her but he could
not obtain an erection. stated that no other sex

acts took place.

It should be noted that seemed quite emotional
at some points of the interview and actually broke down into
tears when speaking about the specific sex acts with both
Mr. Lawler and Mr. Marino.

INITIAL INTERVIEW:

After speaking with the undersigned and
Det. Redmond spoke with . is a
white male with a date of birth of . He resides at

and his phone number is

stated that he is a longtime friend of the
family. He stated that he also helps in
keeping track and keeping safe her children. He stated that
had been acting a bit odd for a short period of time
and he knew that something was not right with her. He
became suspicious that something was going on between her
and a young boy named . He confirmed the story told
by in reference to the Thursday prior to the
20th. He stated that he in fact did go looking for
and had gone to her grandmother's and to another
girlfriend's house. He ultimately found at
home on St. Catherine. He questioned her as to her
involvement and she stated that she has been having sex with
Jerry Lawler and Bill Martin (aka Bill Marino). Both of
these men are wrestlers that perform at the Louisville

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October 23, 1993
Page Six

Gardens primarily on Tuesday evenings on a somewhat regular
basis.

said told him about the incidents in
Indiana with both Lawler and Martin. She also told him
about the incidents that occurred at the Days Inn on Arthur
Street in Louisville, Kentucky. He recalled another time
that he had gone looking for both girls and had found them
sitting outside of a phone booth next to the Days Inn on
Arthur Street. He stated this was fairly recently but
neither girl had told the truth as to why they were at that
location. feels that most probably would
not have told if he hadn't pressured her into being truthful
with him and giving the reason why she had been so withdrawn

and changed as of late.

INITIAL INTERVIEW:

On 9?24?93 at approximately 1645 hrs. the undersigned,
Det. Mike Redmond with the Crimes Against Children Unit, and
Commonwealth Prosecutor Lisa Schweickart went to

to interview . Upon arrival we spoke
with mother, is a white
female, date of birth of . She resides at

and their phone number is .

stated that she at first heard about this
incident about two days prior to our arrival. 
had called and asked if she knew what was going on with both
girls. She in fact did not know anything of the situation
and told she didn't. At that time told her that
both girls had been with a couple of wrestlers and named
Jerry Lawler and another one of which she could not recall
the name. She stated that the next day she confronted

about this. stated that her daughter attempted to
deny this at first but then broke down and admitted that
yes, in fact it had happened. further told her mother

that the acts were all consensual and that they happened at
the Days Inn, and all other facts that were given to her by
were confirmed by

INITIAL INTERVIEW:

Immediately following the interview of we
spoke to . known as is a white
female, date of birth of . She resides at

with her mother. seemed a bit reserved as to

giving the account of what occurred between her and the
wrestlers. She stated that the things that she did, she did
them because she was willing and no one forced her.

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October 23, 1993
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stated that she has known Jerry Lawler since she was 11
years old. She stated that on Tuesday, May 25th that both
girls were talking to Mr. Lawler at the Louisville Gardens
after wrestling. He had asked both of them to come to his
hotel that night and one of them to sneak out. They had
told him that they couldn't because the next day was a
school day. He then asked them to cut school that next day
and come see him._ He wanted them to call a cab company and
see how much it would cost to take a cab from Louisville
Gardens area to his hotel in Indiana. She stated they
contacted Yellow Cab and estimated the fare to be twenty to
thirty dollars. That night at about 2330 hrs. they spoke to
Mr. Lawler via three?way calling. During this conversation
Lawler had decided that the girls should not take the cab,
that he would pick them up in front of Louisville Gardens
that following morning, and they agreed to do this.

said that at approximately 8:00 Wednesday morning

the 26th, Mr. Lawler picked both girls up in front of the
Louisville Gardens. She remembered he was driving what she
believed to be a blue 4 4, something like a Bronco. She
stated it was just the three of them but she recalled seeing
articles in the truck that belonged to Mr. Lawler's son.
The undersigned asked what these articles were, and she
stated she saw his son's jacket in the back seat. There was
also a magazine which had articles of Jerry Lawler and his
son in it. Lawler drove them to the Days
Inn in Sellersburg. said as soon as they got in the
room Lawler told the girls that it was time to get naked.
He then took his clothes off and turned on the TV and they
all started watching cartoons. started masturbating
the suspect and then eventually began "sucking his thing".

said that after this was done, she also gave Lawler a
"blow job". While was performing oral sodomy on
Lawler, was kissing him. After this was completed
and a short while following, the three of them left the room
and went to the Value City by River Falls Mall. said
she recalled seeing a guy who works at Value City that they
see at the wrestling quite often. This man recognized them
and spoke to them briefly and also got Jerry Lawler's
autograph. After leaving the Value City, they went to Taco
Bell and ate. Immediately after leaving the Taco Bell,
Lawler dropped both subjects off in front of Louisville
Gardens at approximately 1420 hrs. She stated that they
needed to be back at that time because they had school that
day and had to be in in time to make it look as if they did

in fact go to school.

The undersigned then asked if Lawler in fact knew
their ages. She stated that she has heard tell him

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October 23, 1993
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that she was 14 years old on more than one occasion while at
the wrestling on Tuesday nights. She then again repeated
the fact that she has known Lawler since she was 11 years
old and has on numerous occasions told him her age.

went on to say that on June 29th, that being a
Tuesday. that she was to spend the night with . They
talked to Jerry Lawler that night at Louisville Gardens and
he'd asked them both to come over, and they agreed. The
girls told that they were staying at
sister's house that night. Both girls walked to
Arthur Street to the Days Inn. They stopped at a nearby
phone booth and called and he wanted to know what they
were doing. stated that he had given
instructions to call when they got to sister's house.
stated they went as far as to have a girl named
call and tell him that she was sister and that
the girls were not with her at that time because they were
out getting pizza. Apparently, they called back just a
short while after this call was made because had made a
comment to her about being back awfully fast from getting
the pizza. He also stated to when she had called
that he believed that the girls were lying to him.
said started crying and told where they were.
came by with brother. and picked both
girls up. She stated they were sitting on the steps near
the phone booth by the Big Foot on Arthur Street, which is
directly next to the Days Inn. asked the girls what
they were doing, and said that they were just out
walking around until it got late. She stated that
was then to sneak her into home, where she was to
spend the night. said that this was a lie. that their
real plan was to go see Jerry Lawler. said that they
all rode around for a short while and then in fact did go
back to house and did sneak her past her
mother and she spent the night in the attic.

then stated that had told of another time

that she had been with Jerry Lawler. had apparently
told her mother that she was spending the night with

. in fact went to Jerry Lawler's room at the
Days Inn on Arthur Street. was unsure of the exact
date here. had told her this had occurred and the
date that she was told was June 27th. said that she
spent the night with Jerry Lawler and had cut school the
next day. stated she was unsure of the date and
guessed it to be around March the 9th. The undersigned
asked who she had first heard this from, and she stated that
she had actually heard this originally from .

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The undersigned then asked if there was anything
distinguishing about Jerry Lawler that appeared unusual to
her. She stated that she didn't notice anything about him
that was out of the ordinary other than the fact that she
did recall seeing hair dye in his bag that was Sitting on
one of the beds in the hotel room.

then went on to speak about the meetings with

Bill Martin. She stated the last time occurred in the
Holiday Motel in Indiana around June 26th. stated
that on Friday night she had went to home and

had told her that she had to see someone at the
hospital. said that this was actually a lie and that

had gone to Bill Martin's room. stated she
left and went to . After a while

came back to and told her that she actually
went to the hotel and had sex with Bill Martin. said
Bill Martin wanted both girls to come over and get drunk
with him. Bill Martin met both girls across the street from
the Dizzy Whiz at 3rd and St. Catherine. He met them there
at about 1430 to 1530 hrs. said that the three of
them stopped and got some beer. She stated she believed it
was Colt 45 and whiskey. They then went to the Holiday
Hotel in Indiana. The undersigned asked what
Mr. Martin was driving, and she stated he was driving a
yellowish?beige four-door with a light brown interior. It
appeared to be clean but an older car. She recalled that it
had a removable radio but no other distinguishing items that
she could recall. Upon arrival at the Holiday Hotel, they
entered his room. She described the room as follows: The
room had a bed on the left hand side upon entering the door;
the right had the air conditioner in the wall up high. The
room had blue curtains of the pull?back type; they were
pulled back with the long sticks and not with a cord. She
believed the carpet to be beige and the bedspread to be a
multicolor. said they all sat around and drank and
listened to the radio and told jokes for some time.
and Bill Marino were dancing while she watched. They all
then went and lie down on the bed and began talking. After

a short while got up and sat in a chair and left
and Bill Marino in the bed. stated she went to
the bathroom and when she came out she saw ?sucking

Bill Marino's thing" and they asked her to do the same
thing and she did. After this, she went to the bathroom

again and when she came out she saw and Bill Marino

having sex. Once done. went to the bathroom and then

Bill Marino went to the bathroom. stated she recalled
passing out on the bed and at that time had sex

with Bill Marino. (A note should be made that Bill Marine
is Bill Martin's stage name for wrestling and will be

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October 23, 1993
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referred to as either/or throughout this investigative
letter.)

They then ordered a pizza from Papa John's and after
eating the pizza and Bill Martin had sex again.
While and Bill Martin were lying in bed, called

to see if he was looking for .

stated that asked her "what the fuck was doing
and where she was". She told that she didn't know
where she was but she knew that he knew she was lying.

then told . that they had to go and Bill Martin
asked her to just give them five more minutes. She became
angry and upset and stated no, that was looking for her
and they had to go now. said she then called
back and said that was with a friend and that they
had just left. After this conversation they all left Bill
Martin's room and he took home and dropped off
at Zorn Avenue apparently at a cousin's home or next to the
cousin's home. said that was to be at this
location at about 2215 hrs. and that was quite upset
that she had not been there yet. The undersigned then asked

if at any time during the sex acts that a condom was
used, and she stated no. The undersigned then asked if Mr.
Martin had ejaculated and she stated yes and further stated
that she was not on birth control at that time.

stated that Mr. Martin had asked her how old she
was and she said she was 14 years old. She stated that the
topic of age came up when he was driving them over to the
hotel initially. Martin said that had told him at
one time that she was 16 but he didn?t believe this and
challenged that. She then said she was 15 and he didn't
believe that either. finally told Bill Martin that
she was 14 years old and he in fact believed this.
stated that the only thing she recalled Martin saying upon
dropping them off was that they shouldn't tell anyone that
they had been with him or what they did because he would get
in big trouble. The undersigned asked when she first
met Bill Martin, and she stated it was approximately 1%
months before the event that she just spoke of. She stated
that she and had met Bill Martin at the same time and
it was after wrestling at Louisville Gardens.

INITIAL INTERVIEW: .

On 9?27?93 at approximately 1815 hrs. the undersigned,
Det. Redmond, and Commonwealth Prosecutor Lisa Schweickart
went to At that location we
spoke to is a white male with a date

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of birth of . He resides at with
his mother, the victim, and another sibling.

The undersigned questioned in reference to the
incident in which he and had picked up the girls in
front of Days Inn on Arthur Street. He stated he did in
fact recall this and that he, along with had picked up

and at the Big Foot on Arthur Street at about

2300 to 2330 hrs. He stated this was sometime around June
6th or 8th but he was unsure of the exact date. He stated
that they did bring back to the house and she did
sneak in and spent the night in the attic. He stated his
mother did not know this and they had kept that a secret
from her. The undersigned then asked him again if he was
knowledgeable as to the date, and he stated that he could
not be exact other than that he recalled it happening a week
or so before school got out. The undersigned then asked if
he was aware of the sex acts in regards to Jerry Lawler and
Bill Martin, and he replied that he had first heard about
this situation sometime last week.

At this time Lisa Schweickart interviewed .
The interview consisted of a recap of the information given

during her first interview.
PHOTOGRAPHS AT DAYS STREET.

On 9?27?93 the undersigned, Det. Redmond, and Lisa
Schweickart went to 1620 Arthur Street to the Days Inn. The
phone number there is 636?3781.

Upon arrival the undersigned spoke to the front desk
clerk, stated that any information

regarding registration would have to be obtained from the
was not present but

manager,
would have to be contacted the next date. did
refer us to the service employee, took

us to Room 200 and allowed us to take photographs of that
room. Det. Redmond took approximately 13 shots of Room 200

that day.

On 9?28?93 at 2315 hrs., the undersigned went by the

Days Inn on Arthur Street. The undersigned spoke to
who stated that Jerry Lawler was registered on the

following dates: June 6, Room 106; July 6, Room 200; June
29, Room 115. stated she would have to check the
following date for a March 9th registration.
then asked me to contact her on 9~29~93 at approximately
2300 hrs. to obtain copies of these registrations. COpies

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of these registrations were obtained and are included in the
file.

On 9-29?93 Det. Redmond went to the Days Inn on Arthur
Street and obtained photos of Room 106.

INVESTIGATION AT HOLIDAY MOTEL, JEFFERSONVILLE, INDIANA.

On 9?27?93 at approximately 2210 hrs. the undersigned,
Det. Redmond, and Lisa Schweickart of the Commonwealth
Attorney's Office went to the Holiday Motel located at 1901
Highway 62 East in Jeffersonville, Indiana. The phone
number of this motel is (812) 283?6641.

Upon arrival the undersigned spoke to 
the manager. stated the last time that Bill

Martin had registered was 9?1?93. She stated that any other

registration information could be obtained from the owner of
the motel, phone number is

. did allow us to see Room 2 and a
sketch of that room was made. After seeing Room 2, the
undersigned spoke to again, who stated that

Mr. Martin comes to their motel as a regular guest. When he
does come there he usually drives a Ford and she described
it as small but could not give any other details such as
color, etc. She went on to say that Mr. Martin has
different women with him every time he comes.

On 9?27?93 at 2245 hrs., the undersigned called
. number again is
He stated that he would check his
registrations and that I should call him back the following
day. On 9-28?93 at 0920 hrs., the undersigned called and
spoke to . She stated that the registration
information was as follows: He was registered on May 28th,
June 1st, and June 25th. All registrations are under Bill
Martin and the address given is
Kentucky. stated the
registration cards will be left at the hotel for the
undersigned to pick up. Copies of these registrations are
included in the file.

INITIAL INTERVIEW: (VALUE CITY).

On 9?28?93 at approximately 
and Commonwealth Prosecutor Lisa Schweickart went to 700
Eastern Boulevard in Clarksville, Indiana to the Value City
store. Upon arrival the undersigned spoke to the store
manager, stated that he was not

familiar with anyone that was a wrestling fan, but was told

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October 23, 1993
Page Thirteen

that another store employee, had a son that
had previously worked there that was. then had
come to the office so that we may speak to her.

The undersigned then spoke to
is a white female who resides at 
Charlestown, Indiana. Her phone number is .
stated that her son, had worked
at the store previously and was a big fan of wrestling at
Louisville Gardens. She stated that we could then speak to
him via phone, and she dialed the number.

After made contact with her son, the
undersigned then spoke with him via phone from Value City.
is white male with a date of birth of
He resides at Charlestown,
Indiana with his mother. stated that he did recall
sometime back two girls came into the store with Jerry
Lawler. He described one girl as having dark or black hair
and the other one lighter brown hair. stated that he
sees these girls regularly at the Louisville Gardens
wrestling on Tuesday nights. He stated that after a short
discussion with them that he did ask Mr. Lawler for an
autograph, of which Mr. Lawler gave him.

INVESTIGATION: DAYS INDIANA.

On 9?28?93 at approximately 2130 hrs., the undersigned
and Commonwealth Prosecutor Lisa Schweickart went to 7618
Old State Road in Sellersburg, Indiana to visit the Days
Inn. It should be noted that this Days Inn has a
Sellersburg mailing address; however, it in fact does lie
within the city limits of Hamburg, Indiana. The phone
number of the Days Inn is (812) 246?4451.

Upon arrival at the Days Inn, the undersigned spoke to
front desk person . stated that
Jerry Lawler does stay there quite often but could not give
specific information as to what days he was registered
there. stated that the information required could
only be supplied by the hotel manager, .

was not available at the time, and I advised that I
would contact her via phone at a later date.

On 10?5?93 at approximately 1345 hrs., the undersigned
spoke to via phone. was very hesitant
to speak to the undersigned in regards to Mr. Lawler. When
questioned as to why, she stated that Mr. Lawler had called
her and told her that he had a meeting set with the
undersigned on 10?6?93. He then requested that she not give

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Page Fourteen

us the information that we requested in regards to the rooms
and dates that he had rented. He advised that he
wished to be the one to give that information.

stated that she wished to protect her guests, however,
wanted to cooperate with the police as much as possible.
The undersigned then explained that it was important that
the information be confirmed with her and not with Mr.
Lawler, and she stated that she understood. then
stated that Mr. Lawler had checked in on Tuesday the 25th
that night and checked out late on the 26th. She then
stated she would make a copy of this registration and make
it available to the undersigned. A copy of that
registration is included in the files.

INITIAL INTERVIEW:

0n 9?29?93 at approximately 1850 hrs., the undersigned

Spoke with via phone. is a white
female and she resides at in Borden,
Indiana. Her phone number is . The undersigned

questioned in regards to the incident that

had spoke about earlier, that incident being the night that
the group of them had taken Mr. Lawler from the Louisville
Gardens to the Days Inn on Arthur Street and during which
had went and had dinner together at the McDonald's. This
was the same evening that had went back to Mr.
Lawler's hotel room.

stated that she in fact did recall that

evening. She stated that she and her daughter, took
Lawler to the hotel. She stated the hotel that they went to
was the Days Inn on Arthur Street. then advised

that this would have been sometime between 2130 and 2200
hrs., immediately following the wrestling matches at the

Louisville Gardens. After arrival at the Days Inn, Lawler
signed in and then they all went to the McDonald's and ate.
The undersigned asked who rode in which cars. She

stated that she, Lawler, and her daughter went in one car
and another girl went in the other

while 
car. The undersigned then asked who went to the McDonald's
to eat, and she advised that they all did. stated
that she and then dropped Mr. Lawler off at his hotel

room sometime prior to 2300 hrs. When asked who went back
to the hotel she advised that they all had, that being both
cars. She further advised that she believed that

and her carload left at the same time they did.

said she remembered sometime during that evening that Mr.
Lawler asked if she could take him to the airport
the next day. The undersigned asked if could
recall the exact date or approximate date that this

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October 23, 1993
Page Fifteen

occurred. She could not, but merely recalled this being
around the period that the WWF was in town.

INITIAL INTERVIEW:

On 9?29?93 at approximately 1825 hrs., the undersigned

spoke to via phone. is a white
female with a date of birth of . She resides at
and her phone number is .

recalled that evening in the same manner as her mother had.
She recalled taking Mr. Lawler to his hotel room and
allowing him to check in. stated that the car
arrangements were the same as her mother had mentioned in
the previous interview. Again, account was
virtually the same as that of her mother's. No other
information of any significance was mentioned.

INITIAL INTERVIEW: .

On 9?29?93 at approximately 1330 hrs., Det. Mike
Redmond of the Crimes Against Children Unit spoke to
via phone. is a black male, date of

birth of . He resides at

told Det. Redmond that he recalled seeing

both girls on what he thought to be a Wednesday morning out

front of the Louisville Gardens. He stated that he did not

see them leave with anyone and could not refer to the girls

by name. He stated that he merely knows the girls by face.
was unable to give any other significant

 

information.
INITIAL INTERVIEW: (BOARD OF EDUCATION).

On 9?30?93 at approximately 1030 hrs., Det. Mike
Redmond spoke to in regards to days that both
girls have been absent from school. informed Det.
Redmond that - was absent on May 26th and also from

June 2nd through June 8th. He then advised that
was absent on May 26th, May 28th, June lst, and June

7th.
INITIAL INTERVIEW:

On 9?30?93 at approximately 1750 hrs., the undersigned

spoke to via phone. is a white

female, date of birth of . Her home phone number is
and she is the roommate of . The

undersigned spoke to about the same incident

as and had been involved in.

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October 23, 1993
Page Sixteen

recalled this being on a Tuesday night approximately two
months ago. She stated that Jerry Lawler needed a ride that

particular evening. Jerry Lawler had rode with and
while and went

in car. She recalled the events in the same

manner as the did. She commented on taking Mr.

Lawler to the Days Inn on Arthur Street and about having
dinner at the nearby McDonald's. The undersigned then asked
what they did after leaving Mr. Lawler at the hotel
room. stated she took to a friend's house
on Brook Street just off of Hill Street. She recalled
seeing standing at the front door and then after a
short while she walked around to what appeared to be the
side or rear of the house. said she never saw
anyone come to the door nor did she see enter the
house. said she dropped off at
approximately 2300 hrs. and then was taken home at

approximately 2315 hrs.
INTERVIEW: .

On 10?8?93 at approximately 1335 hrs. the undersigned,
Det. Mike Redmond, and Commonwealth Attorney Lisa

Schweickart went to residence. The
undersigned asked who he had spoke to in regards

to this incident. He stated that he had gone to the Holiday
Hotel in Indiana and Spoke to an older couple about the
incident. He said he did not go to any other hotels but did
go to the Louisville Gardens. said that he had
gone to the Louisville Gardens he believed to be the second
day after he had found out about the incident. He recalled
talking to a man named who he thought was the assistant
manager. He told that had been having sex with
Jerry Lawler and Bill Martin. He also stated that something
ought to be done about this because one of these wrestlers
had taken both girls to Indiana. said that he
did mention both girls' names but believed that he gave the
last name of as He said he made no threats,
just simply told them.this and felt that they should look
into it. He wasn't sure if mother was going to
prosecute, but felt that Louisville Gardens should look into

it nonetheless.
INVESTIGATION: LOUISVILLE GARDENS.

0n 10?8?93 at approximately 1415 hrs. the undersigned,
Det. Redmond, and Commonwealth Prosecutor Lisa Schweickart
went to the Louisville Gardens. Upon arrival we spoke with
Mr. Tony Butler and Mr. King, the general manager. Mr.

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October 23, 1993
Page Seventeen

Butler stated that he recalled sometime around September
20th or 21st or 22nd, in that time period,
coming to his office. Mr. Butler said that had
told him that he was going to sue the promoter and everyone
else. At that time he told Mr. Butler that his ex?wife's
sister, a 13 year old girl, had met with wrestlers and went
to their hotels and sex was involved. He then handed Mr.
Butler a letter that had written of which a c0py is
enclosed in the file. The undersigned asked Mr. Butler if
the girls' names were mentioned, and he stated that

and were mentioned. He also stated that
Jerry Lawler and Bill Marino's names were mentioned as the
wrestlers involved. Mr. Butler stated that at no time was
he advised of what hotels were involved other than there was
one in Indiana. No dates were mentioned and the
conversation with lasted approximately 10

minutes.

Mr. King then told the undersigned that Jerry Lawler
had called two or three times wanting to know where this
information was coming from. He stated that he wanted to
know who had made the complaint. Mr. King told Mr. Lawler
that he didn't know due to the fact that he has been advised
by their lawyers not to discuss this with anyone. The only
person he had spoke to in regards to the incident was the
promoter, Jerry Jerod. He advised Mr. Jerod of the
allegations and that an unknown person may be suing him.

INTERVIEW: . d?

On 10?8?93 at approximately 1450 hrs. the undersigned
Lisa
Schweickart went to home. While there, we
spoke with . stated that the past Monday at
approximately 1630 hrs. Jerry Lawler had called her. He
told her that he had called earlier and got her
number. The undersigned asked what Mr. Lawler had
wanted. said that he had told her that she was the
key to his getting out of this. He then told her that what
she needed to do was to lie and say that nothing happened.
He then told her that he would call back and talk to her
mother about 2000 hrs. that evening. The undersigned asked
if he did call back and she replied that yesapproximately 2000 hrs. and he in fact did talk to
her mother. stated that she had no knowledge as to
the contents of that conversation. had asked Mr.
Lawler how he had found out about the allegations and he
told her that he found out through Louisville Gardens, that
they had called him and told him. He then left his number

Captain Myra Mason
October 23, 1993
Page Eighteen

with her, that number being . He told her to
call him if she needed him and love you". He then hung
up. said she had called after this

conversation and said that she and her mother wanted

to drop this. She would not go into details but this came
about after Mr. Lawler had called them.

INTERVIEW:

On 10:8793 at approximately 1550 hrs. the undersigned,
Det. Redmond, and Commonwealth Prosecutor Lisa Schweickart
went to home. stated that Jerry Lawler
had called one day and asked to speak to her mother. He
then asked her why she had said all these things and she
told him because and her mother were suspicious that
something was going on. She stated the conversation did not
last long and was ill at ease talking to about that
conversation's content. She went on to say that Mr. Lawler
called back later that day and spoke to her mother. The
undersigned asked if she knew what day this was, and she
said she believed it to be on Sunday, 10?3?93. She was then
asked if she recalled or knew what the conversation between
Lawler and her mother was, and she stated no. At that time

Commonwealth Prosecutor Lisa Schweickart asked if the
allegations she had presented to us earlier were true or
not. stated that everything she had told us was

true, that she just felt uncomfortable pursuing this after
the conversation she had with Mr. Lawler.

INTERVIEW:

On 10-10?93 at approximately 1735 hrs., the undersigned
spoke to Via phone. stated that on
Monday at approximately 2000 hrs., Mr. Lawler had called
her. He told her that nothing had actually happened between
him and the girls. He advised her that he took them to
Indiana to buy them clothes. He went on to tell
that all the police wanted to do was to make a name for
themselves and that after they ruined everyone's lives they
would be off to the next case and never give them another
thought. He then advised her that he had a lawyer and that
if she thought that he had violated the girls that maybe she
should talk to his lawyer. She stated that he had not
called since that date. had talked to 

mother, and she stated that she was afraid the
girls were going to get a reputation from this.
was quite upset that Mr. Lawler would call her on the phone
and attempt to discuss this situation with her and was
adamant at pursuing prosecution.

Captain Myra Mason
October 23, 1993
Page Nineteen

INITIAL INTERVIEW: JERRY LAWLER.

On 10?11?93 at approximately 1000 hrs., Mr. Lawler and
his attorney, Tim McCall, came to the CACU office. Mr.
Lawler was given his rights and they were witnessed by his
attorney, Tim McCall, and the undersigned and Det. Redmond.
The conversation was audiotaped and a copy of this is
included in the file. During this conversation Mr. Lawler
admitted to the girls being at his hotel room in Indiana.

He denied, however, picking them up and bringing them there
and stated that they merely appeared at his front door. He
also stated that they had gone to the Value City and that he
did take them home. When asked how he took them home, he
stated that he had to borrow his son's car, that being a
Chevy Blazer. Mr. Lawler also recalled the incident where
and had taken him to his hotel after
wrestling at the Days Inn on Arthur Street. He stated that
he did ride in the car with both of those women and that
they did have dinner at the McDonald's. He stated the other
car contained and . He denied
ever coming to his room afterwards. Mr. Lawler denied any
sexual contact with either girl at any time. He further
stated that the only time that either girl was in or near
his rented room at one of the motels would have been the day
mentioned in Indiana when he had taken them home and stOpped
by the Value City en route to do so. When asked if he had
talked to either girl or their family since the incident, he
replied that he had. During his recount of these phone
conversations he had stated that he had taped the

conversation with and her mother and was unable to do
the same with the conversation he had with . He
further stated that had admitted over the phone

that she had lied to the police about the sexual
allegations. The undersigned then asked Mr. Lawler if he
had the tapes, and he stated that they were in a briefcase
back at the attorney's office. The undersigned then asked
Mr. Lawler and his attorney to produce these tapes so that
the undersigned and the Commonwealth prosecutor could hear
this. Mr. Lawler became flustered at this request and Mr.
McCall stated that he would have to review these tapes prior
to the Commonwealth's hearing them. The Commonwealth
Attorney, Lisa Schweickart, asked if they would review and
produce only the tape of stating that she had lied.
At that time Mr. Lawler stated that she didn't exactly say
that she was lying but indicated that on the conversation.
The tape was then requested again and Mr. McCall stated that
he would have to review this first.

The undersigned met Ms. Schweickart at the Grand Jury
Room. Mr. Lawler was present; however, his attorney, Tim

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October 23, 1993
Page Twenty

McCall, was not. After a few minutes Mr. McCall appeared,
at which time we requested to hear the tapes. Mr. McCall
stated he had not the time to hear the tapes properly and
could not do so before the next date. The grand jury date
was then continued by Ms. Schweickart and the tapes
requested that following morning.

On 10?12?93 Mr. McCall contacted Ms. Schweickart of the
Commonwealth Attorney's Office and stated that he was in
fact not turning those tapes over to us. He stated that he
was not going to allow us to hear them nor would he turn

them over to us.

INITIAL INTERVIEW: I

On 10?11?93 at approximately 1200 hrs., the undersigned
and Commonwealth Prosecutor Lisa Schweickart went to Meyzeek
Middle School and interviewed 
aka is a white female, date of birth . She
resides at and with her
mother. She stated that they all knew Jerry and had known
him for some time. She stated that she. along with
and would talk to him on the side after wrestling
many times. She stated they would also take pictures for
him with fans and he would give them money for this. She

recalled first telling her about kissing Mr. Lawler
some time back. She knew that there were things going on
between and Jerry Lawler. When asked about the

incident in the car where they had all taken Mr. Lawler to
the Days Inn on Arthur Street, she recalled this very

clearly. She stated that and had taken them
there while she and rode with in
car. She stated she also knew about plans to sneak

back to Lawler's room that night. She recalled

dropping off on Brook Street and knew that she went
back to the hotel. That next morning, called her and
then met her and they both skipped school. During that
following day said that had told her about
having sex with Jerry Lawler. The undersigned asked what
she meant by sex. and stated that had mentioned

oral sex and intercourse.

said that she had first told about this after
getting into an argument with . She told about
this incident and this made angry because had
strong feelings for Lawler. She stated she told about
two weeks after her finding this out. The undersigned then
asked if she believed account of the sex acts with"
Jerry Lawler. stated that there was no doubt in her
mind that these things did happen. The undersigned then

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October 23, 1993
Page Twenty?one

asked the last time that she had talked to and she
stated at least two months ago, that they weren't getting
along and had been fighting and this was the reason she

hasn't talked to her.

When asked about Bill Marino and the sexual encounters
that both and were involved in, she stated that
she had known about that for about three months. This

information came to her through . The undersigned
then asked if either girl had told her about any other

wrestlers that they had been having sex with and she stated
no, that these were the only two that they had ever
mentioned and she felt sure that what they had told her was

true.

Respectfully submitted,

Detective Tracy A. Schiller
Crimes Against Children Unit

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