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CARVER COUNTY OFFICE

 

PM: Det. Pat Murphy, #859 I . BM: Bill Mauzy

 

PM: Ah, today?s date is #212016. Time now is approximately 17:33 or correction 19:33.
This is a follow up phone call to Attorney Bill Mauz'ey, i believe and I?ll get the correct
spelling when I talk to him. Ah, telephone number this has to do
with the ah, death investigation of ah, Prince Roger Nelson and it's number two
thousand sixteenO12559. Ah, telephone number for Bil

BM: Bil-I Mauzy.

PM: Hi Bill, Detective Pat Murphy, Carver County Sheriff?s office.

BM: Hi. Thanks for calling.

PM: Hey, no problem. What can i do for-you tonight, sir?

BM: Well, ah, let?s 'see ah, ah, my, my new client, ah, Andrew 'ah, is hopeful that he'd get
his laptop back. 

PM: Um, 'right now! have his backpack and those items where l?m at, Bill, is I intend on
writing a search warrant to search the content of the backpack.

BM: Okay.

PM: And what discussed with your client is is afterthe search warrant was done .we
could discuss what items could or could not be returned.

BM: Okay, okay.

PM: Um, you know, my understanding from having the conversation with your client 

BM: Uh-huh.

PM: Is that backpack does, urn, contain illegal narcotics. Narcotics that are not either um,
prescribed to him or um, that he has the authority to possess. So, um, I don?t know
what other information is going 

BM: Okay.

PM: Be in the backpack, but um, that is part of the reason for seizing it. 

BM: Okay.

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So, um, Itold'your, I told your client that, you know, after I got a chance to look at
what was in the backpack and considering the whole sequence of events that

. happened today, 

Uh-huh.

We're just concerned about the, the circumstances involving ah, this person?s death 


Uh?huh.

Unfortunately your client was present at the time his body was discovered and just
trying to 

Uh-huh.

If your client has um, any relevant information that will help us understand or figure
out um, ah, what happened today.

Okay. Ah, are, you open with the County Attorney now?
It, am, am open with the County Attorney?

Yeah.

I haven?t discussed it with the County Attorney?s office.
Oh, okay. Okay.

Um, what I told your client is is I don't know what his, you know, return trip plans -
were um, you know, again, given the circumstances of the evidence today

Uh~huh.

It?s been a busy day.

Uh-huh.

Um, and I told him that I would try and, you know, get those things done as quickly as
reasonably possible, but you know, um, just some of the other follow up stuff that
needs to happen, 

Okay.

Unfortunately the reality is is I may end up having to hold onto your client's backpack
for a little bit longer than i anticipated.

Okay, yup.

Um, you know, I guess if he feels that he needs to return back home, I?m not
preventing him from doing that.

Okay.

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Urn, and, you know, i guess if there were items that needed to be returned to him
um, if he wasn?t willing to come back to Minnesota we could always arrange
something, but I did tell him that he would be responsible for postage if, if we needed
to mail something.

Well, you know, and and I can pick it up too. Or, or have it picked'up. 

Okay, yeah, whatever, whatever we can figure out, Bill, but 

Have him sign something, okay.

Yeah, that's, that's kind of where we?re at. Um, I was gonna call him and touch base
with him tonight. Do you want me to do that or will you do that for me?

No, l, ah, l, I'll, I?ll talk to him. You know, you know, and I think he, he will go back
home. . -

Okay. Do, do you think his plan was to, to, travel back tonight? He wasn't quite sure
and he hadn?t had a, a flight scheduled yet when I dropped him back off at the hotel
earlier today.

Yeah.

Do you know what his plan was 

Yeah. Yeah, that is his plan.

It, it is. Okay.

Yeah.

So he?s gonna try to fly back tonight? Okay.

Yes.

If he?s looking to get property back tonight that is not gonna happen.

No, it, it, it doesn?t have to be tonight. No, that?s, no, yeah, I can, I can pick it up for
him. Yeah, I mean, that, obviously is a quite the bullet, you know?

Yeah, it?s, it?s, it's, it's, just been a busy day, so.
Oh, I can imagine what your day has been like, oh my God.

A lot of circumstances, things going on, um, Bill can you spell your last name for me
so when I call you next time i don?t mess it up?

Yes, it?s ah, sure, yeah, M-a?u?z?y.
Mauzy, is that how you pronounce it?

Yeah, Mauzy, yeah.

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Mauzy, okay.

Pretty close, yeah.

And then do you have your own practice, Bill, or do you work with someone elseMinneapolis, it's ah,-

Yup. I

Yes.

Okay, so, I guess, you know if your client plans on leaving town um, you know, if
there's any other follow up that needs to happen l'll either arrange that through you or
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Yes, yeah, please.

If he's gonna go home, I'll, you know, may have to arrange that through law
enforcement out there if, if for some reason we need .to talk about having another
discussion or, it didn?t sound like your client, this was the first time he?s ever come to
Minnesota so i don?t know what his reason to come back to Minnesota would be

other than to collect property or if there was some other reason.

Yeah, and I'll take care ofthat and l, and I would ask that any communications with
him be, be done through me as his, as his lawyer.

Okay, can you send me an office letter or something, Bill?
Yeah, yeah.

That can either be through my email or through the snail mail?
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It doesn't matter.

Sure. Ah, okay, l?ll, I'll, lwill send you an email, ah, okay, I've got, give me, give me
your email address.

Ready?
Yup.
It's?r-

Uh-huh, okay.

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BM: Okay, good. I'll, send you an email either tonight 

PM: Yeah, that way i don?t forget about it.

BM: Or in the, in the morning.

PM: HI put it in the file and that way I remember your contact information, so.

BM: Okay, good. So ah, if, if there are um, narcotics in the backpack ah, are you thinking
about criminal charges 

PM: It, it, it, you know, it?s, it?s kind of early in the, in the circumstances where we?re at.
BM: (inaudible) okay.

PM: To be honest with you about that, Bill, but um.

BM: Okay.

PM: You know, I, I do know from information that i got from your client that um, it, it does -
appear to be that it?s gonna be a, a, controlled prescription narcotic that, like I 

BM: Okay.
PM: He neither had a prescription for nor has the right to possess or administer so 
BM: Yup.

PM: Whatever that circumstance may be that will probably be something that we 'd have
to talk to the County Attorney? 3 office about.

BM: Sure.

PM: If, ifthere would or would not be a, a criminal charge in the-matter.
BM: Okay. I

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BM: Fair enough.

PM: All right.

BM: Okay. Ah, thank you for the courtesy of the call. I appreciate it.

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PM: No problem. Thanks Bill.

BM: All right, thank you.

PM: Yup. Bye. Ah, today?s date is 4/21f2016 and the time now is approXimateiy 19:40 and
this is in regard to file numbertwo thousand sixteen 012559.

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PM: . Det. Pat Murphy, #859 MB: Meron Bekure, 

CN: Det. Chris Nelson, #839 I UF: Unidentified Female

AN: Angela Nucci, #837 UM: Unidentified Male

PM: How are you doing?

MB: Good.

PM: Good? You're kind of a soft spoken person and so I may have to ask you to speak up

- once ort-wice because (inaudible) voice carries pretty well, so if, ifl can?t hear you I, I
will ask you to repeat, okay? Um, do record my conversations, Maren. We get a
number of people that we're gonna talk to today, so I wanna? make sure that we
remember what people tell us accurately, okay? Okay, um, for the recording, today?s
date is 4212016 and the time now is approximately 11:46 and 
pronouncing it correctly Meron, is that right?

MB: - That?s right, Uh~huhspell that?

MB: M-e-r-o-n. I

PM: M-e?r-o-n. What?s your middle name, Meron?

MB: (inaudible)

PM: And last name?

MB: B-e-k-u?r?e.

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MB: _U~r~e

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MB: Uh-huh.

PM: And you're birthday.

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PM: And an address for you at home.

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MB: Ah. 

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.nd yyhatfs your cell phone number?

MB: Um,?

PM: Do you live With anybody else at that house? Or at that address?
MB: My parents. 

PM: Okay, and just in case um, I end up calling there won?t talk to them about any
conversations that we've had, but what are your mom and dad's first names.

MB: My, my dad?s first name is my last. name.
PM: 'You, okay.

MB: And then my mom is A?s?n-a-k-u.

PM: One more time, I?m sorry.

MB: A?s?n-a?k-u . . . .n-a

PM: N?a.

MB: - K?u.

PM: How do you pronounce that?

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MB: It?s (inaudible)
PM: Okay, and so then help me understand last names for your dad then.
MB: Oh, D?e?s?t?a. I

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D-e?s?t-a.

Desta?

Uh?huh.

And same last name for your mom?
No.

Different.

Cherpnet.

How do you pronounce that?
Cherpnet.

Cherpnet? Okay, and help, help me remember howl pronounce your last name.
Bekure

Bekure? Urn, and ifl can get a hold of you on your cell phone, Meron, do you have
an email or something like that? .

Yeah, it?s?
capitalized, sensitive?
Uh?huh.

Okay, um, we re here to talk about a death investigation at Paisley Park. Urn, have
you been to Paisley Park before Meron?

(inaudible) .

Okay, um who was the person that was found In Paisley Park? How do you know
that person?

I'm his assistant.

You?re his assistant, okay, and who was the person that was found?

Prince.

Does he go'by any other, I know he's identified by Prince, but does he, did he have
other past legal names?

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(inaudible) that?s it.

PM: That?s, that?s what he?s known as today.

MB: Yeah.

PM: Okay. Did, I, I thought, and maybe I?m wrong, but wasn?t his, one of his past legal
names his given name? Was it Roger?

MB: Prince Rogers Nelson (inaudible) I

PM: Prince Rogers Nelson, yeah, okay. How long have you been his assistant?

MB: Year and a half. 

PM: Year and a half? Okay, so can you tell me what was going on today or what brought
you out to Paisley Park this morning?

MB: Well, um, we hadn?t heard from him for, since 8 o?clock yesterday, sorry, um, usually
he (inaudible) throughout the time, throughout the night. We hadn?t heard from him.
Ah, Kirk had tried to call his room a couple times and then no answer so we?re like
let?s just go check on him. (inaudible)

PM: Okay, and what time did you say was the last time that 

MB: I think around 8pm yesterday.

PM: Okay. 

MB: But we were at Paisley until about 10.

PM: So you were at Paisley yesterday until about 10?

MB: Uh-huh.

PM: Okay, 

MB: it was just me and Kirk. Usually l'm, usually at work, we stay there (inaudible)

PM: Yeah, okay.

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PM: So, where did you, it you hadn?t had contact with Prince since 8pm was he on the
property or was he someplace else?

MB: He was, he was home.

PM: He was home, okay, and is, he has a living quarters there?

MB: Uh-huh.

PM: Okay.

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Off, the front of the building is his, his side of town. The other is kind of the whole
musical studio section.

Okay, and it, and I haven't ever been inside that building other than maybe that front
where we met this 

Uh-huh.

Um, so I, um, would it be possible for you to just kind of give me just a rough site
map so that I can understand where the living quarters are?

Where we were?

Yup.

is basically thatwhole section is his section.

Okay, and, and, i know, can you just give me a, give me a rough drawing because
we?re gonna be in there for a little while and it would be nice to have a little bit of a
road map of, of, .

So, this is the frontdoor where you guyscame in.

Yup.

There? a small kitchen which" IS this kitchen this kitchen Um, and then green room
is up the stairs which is his bedroom.

- On that second floor you said?

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The second. . .

Okay, let me just mark that bedroom I?ll remember green room, but is it, it? 5 called
green room because it?s green or is.

Yeah.

Okay, and sometimes people will call them a different coler but it?s not the actual
color of the room.

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Okay, and where, where Idoes, and this is wherehe spends most of his time when
he's here? Okay, um..

And this is sort of like the studios, the studios and then the back soundstage where
they, there' 3 performances done In the back

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Okay, when, when I came in um, Iwent with Andrew from this front area down this
long hallway, um..

Uh-huh. 

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That would?ve been if you kept going you would end where.
Cause the room 

The production room.

it, i, I don't know what did, what did you call it?

it's called the production room.

Production room? Um, I knowhis was in there, um, there was a desk in
there, that kind 'of thing. .

Yeah.

Okay, all right Um, and so is there when you say that?s his side of town, is there
kind of per, a perceived rule or..

Yeah (inaudible)

Or written rule to say that this is, this is my side, this is stuff that you have 

We just know, but this' Is, there' 5 a door that he can lock, basically all throughout so
all three doors would lock and you can't, nobody from this side can come in unless
there?s a garage, I mean, I have the access and Kirk has the access, but just us two. 

Uh?huh.

We go through the'garage and basically go in and you can open the doors from
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Okay, okay. Okay, so you, you hadn?t heard-from him since 8 clock last night You
guys were still on the preperty but you assumed that Prince was on his side of the
building. - 

Yeah.

Um, what was going on last night when you test saw him? i mean, did you guys talk
to him on the phone? Did you meet with him?

No, he was going to the doctor to get a general checkup.
Okay,llast night?
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Okay.

Urn, that's, that's all 1 knew.

Okay, so what was going on yesterday then?

Nothing.

Nothing? Did, did .

He slept all, like, he went to the doctor around 4:30 and before that we didn't 
80, did he go himself or did somebody give him a ride there?

Um, me and Kirk were gonna go. That's kind of why I was there and he said, ?You
don?t have to go. l'll go with Kirk,? so Kirk and him went and I left.

Okay.

'Well, I left and came back.

Okay.

Catrse there was a chef and stuff that we bring in for him to cook.
Okay, okay; So, who?s the chef?

Um, Ray Roberts. I

Do you know if Ray cooked for Prince last night, 

Hedid, but I don?t think Prince ate any of it. 

Okay, do you think Ray could?ve seen Prince after you guys did?
He didn?t, he didn?t see him.

Okay, 

Cause wejust had him pack up the food and then just leave it in the back and Prince 
never, i don?t think he came to the back to grab the food.

Okay. When did Ray leave then or when was he on the property?
It was probably around 8:30.
Okay. Do you have a contact number for Ray?

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Yeah, that?s okay.

MB: Just cause he doesn?t, he, he doesn't have any idea.

PM: Urn, is he just a private chef or does he have a business someplace else?

MB: He has a business. People's Organic.

PM: People?s Organic?

MB: He's 

PM: l?m 

MB: He?s the owner.

PM: Okay.

MB: But he?s our personal chef.

PM: Okay.

MB: Can i call him and just let-him know?

PM: You can call him in a little bit. lwon't haye a chance to call him until after we?re done
talking anyway, 

MB: I can call him?

PM: You can call him in a little bit.

MB: Oh.

PM: Okay, yeah, cause it, let's finish our conversation and then we're not getting side
tracked 

MB: just don't want him to freak out or anything.

PM: No that, that's okay. Do you think he knows what's going on yet, 

MB: Maybe. He was just texting meso.

PM: Okay, yeah, so we can talk to him about that. Again it?s, what, what we?re trying to
do, Meron, is just trying to figure out the last time that anybody saw Prince, talked to
Prince, and, you know, i just want to try and verify information that you?re telling me.
okay. 

MB: Right.

PM: Okay, okay, um, so did you see Prince in person yesterday?

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Okay. How was he doing yesterday?

i, I saw him from far distance.

Okay.

I mean it?swhen he told me I didn't have to go to the doctor with them.

Okay. Okay.

So, i didn?t really get a chance to know how he was doing.

Okay, has he been struggling With some things lately?

I?m not aware.

Okay. You?re his Personal Assistant but a guy who just flew in from California this
morning seems to have a reason to believe that he was here to help Prince for a
reason and I would think that his Personal Assistant would also know and what we?re
trying to find out, Meron, is the circumstances for the reason that Prince was found
dead. Okay, and I understand that Prince has a very private lifeand people try to
protect hisum, his persona and his lifestyle and everything else, but it is really 
important for us to understand to try and manage any rumors that are gonna come
out of any of this, um, what was going on yesterday and I, and i, and i think you have
an understanding being his Personal Assistant um, if he was, 

But i don't know the laws I don?t know.

What do you mean the laws?

I, well, we all have confidentiality agreements (inaudible)

And-Price is deceased. Prince is deceased, um, and so what we would want'to know
is the circumstances surrounding why he?s dead, okay, and if you have information 
that may helpus understand that, um, that will help us explain the circumstances in
which he was found. in. Um, and l?m hoping that you can be comfortable in talking
about that. 

I?m not.

You're not. Okay, so, are you willing to'tell me anything that you know about that may
help us understand Prince's current condition?

I don?t know.

Okay. You?re not in trouble, okay? And you?re not gonna get in trouble for things that
you tell me as long as you're honest about it.

i understand that.

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I would like to speak to someone, possibly a lawyer or whoeyer to also make sure
that I, I?m, you know, saying the right thing and alsojust, you know, I?m not sure the

- ins and outs of this whole thing so I don?t know what to tell you. I don?t 

PM: Okay.

MB: We all have confidentiality agreement that we signed and that's what I would stick
with 

PM: Okay.

MB: As far as I know the only thing I know is he was going to the doctor to get a checkup
yesterday so that's. ..

PM: Okay.

MB: The only thing I can tell you.

PM: So, the confidentiality agreement, just so I understand, was that something that you
had to sign when you got employed?

MB: Yeah.

PM: And was 

MB: That?s l, I believe not only am I doing it because of the 

PM: Uh?huh.

MB: also think as his Personal Assistant and knowing his private, 1 Would like to keep his
privacy 

PM: Right. 

MB: So.

- PM: But what, what we're trying to understand, Meron, is what I've already heard is there
is some concern that Prince was having some struggles with chemical dependency
stuff, okay, and I would believe you, as his Personal Assistant, would have some
judgement about how he was reacting yesterday whether he seemed normal,
whether or not he seemed out of it, um, what his personal were as, as 
how he would normally communicate with you. 

MB: This is what I told you, 

PM: You didn't tell me anything before.

MB: I?ll say, I?ll say it again, but when I came yesterday this, so I thought i was gonna go
to, he was gonna need me to go to the doctor with him.

PM: Uh?huh.

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So I came, and so right when i got there i saw him walking by and he kind of was
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PM: Okay.

MB: And that was the last, you know, exchange.

PM: And that was 

MB: - So I can?t really say how he was doing yesterday.

PM: Okay.

MB: Cause i don?t know.

PM: How about his past history, so i mean, why, why was this person here from California
that was here believing that he was going to help Prince urn, with some chemical
struggles?

MB: Um, you?re gonna have to um talk to him .

PM: Oh i did talk to him and you as his Personal ASSIstant would know why this man was

coming here because you guys arranged for him to come.

MB: i understand what you re asking me but l? saying I can answer and then from
them. ..correct understanding of the situation. I can?t 

PM: Okay.

MB: Whatever I?m. you know, this isn?t a, a, an interview and Ijust want to make sure I,
you 

PM: Okay.

MB: i would like to speak to people from my own and 

PM: Okay, who was, just so I understand. with the confidentiality agreement, who was the

confidentiality agreement signed with? Was it signed with Prince or was it signed with
Paisley Park?

MB: I believe it?s NPG that?s what they call it.

PM: Okay, and do you know who the controller is of 

MB: No.

PM: Do you know how, with the, with Paisley Park, do you know how the hierarchy who manages the property when Prince isn?t there?

MB: Kirk and I manage the property.

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. PM: Okay, so then above you is there, is there anybody above you guys that manage the
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MB: Uh-uh.

PM: So then you guys would be the controllers of 

MB: Yeah.

PM: Okay, so then why did you tell me you didn't know who controls 

MB: I don't know who, I don?t believe we have anybody that?s an authority.

PM: Okay.

MB: I?m not sure.

PM: So, then you guys, what I'm trying to understand' Is just how the business is
established and how it?s set up, okay. So, and then you and Kirk are the person that
are in control of Paisley Park and the company.

MB: Paisley Park, you said, you asked me who manages this, the property.

PM: Uh?huh.

MB: That's me and Kirk.

PM: Okay, and you told me before you didn't know who the managers were.

MB: The NPG is 

PM: Okay, is NPG, okay' is NPG a parent company of, of other companies. I guess maybe
that?s to try and clarify my question.

MB: NPG controls the music side of it. Paisley Park is Paisley Park.

PM: Okay. Do you know what the acronym NPG stands for?

MB: i think New Power Generation.

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MB: New Power Generation.

PM: New Power, okay. So, it?s NPG not 

MB: Yeah.

PM: Was that one of the companies that Prince had originally set up in the past cause I
think he had didn? t' he 

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PM: A couple of albums 
MB: Yeah, it's kind of like the band?s name too.
PM: Yup, yup, okay, okay. So, other than you, Kirk, and um, Ray being on the property
yesterday, was anybody else there?
MB: Just Prince.
PM: Nobody else that you would be aware of that would've been on that side of the
building that oould?ve gotten there without you guys knowing that, that?
MB: What, no. I don?t, i don't think so. It's possible, but I don?t think so.
PM: Okay.
MB: To let anybody in, 
PM: Right, and then you guys, you left, did you and Kirk leave at the same time last night?
- And so what time was that again?
MB: - Around 10:30.
PM: And then do you stay around here or do you go back, go back home?
MB: . Um, I stay at the hotel sometimes and I stay at home sometimes.
PM: Which hotel do you stay at?
MB: Country lnn.
Did you stay in town last night in the Country inn? I
MB: i did.
PM: Okay, and is that the one here in town?
MB: (inaudible)
PM: Okay, what room number did you stay in?
MB: 127.
PM: I?m sorry.
MB: 127.
PM: And do you have a normal room that you stay in 'if you stay here.
MB: That's it. I
PM: Okay. When did you check in?
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I've been checked in a long time ago.

PM: Okay.

ljust kind of stay there if I?m out here. i stay there.

PM: Okay. So, is the room always held for you so that whether you come in, when you
come and go so you don't ever have to go to the front desk or anything? It's just held
for you 

MB: Yeah.

PM: And that?s where you stay? Okay. Do you know how long that arrangement?s kind of
been in place?

MB: It's been awhile. i don?t know, about (inaudible)

PM: Okay, and did, after you left Paisley last night. did you go right back to the hotel or
did you go someplace else?

MB: I went to the hotel.

PM: Do you remember what time you got back there?

MB: Around 11-.

PM: 11? Do you remember which door you came through when you went in?

MB: Probably the side door.

PM: Which is, which is the side door?

MB: Not the Jimmy John?s but the other one. There's two side doors. One right by Jimmy
John?s, one 

PM: Okay, north or north. southeast, west side of the building?

MB: The front door?s here the door's that way.

PM: - Okay, so opposite side of the front part of the building. And where from that back
door is room 127 located?

MB: Right by that door.

PM: Right by the door? Okay.

MB: (inaudible) doors.

PM: Okay. Um. i picked up your purse when we were in Paisley Park. Um. because it?s a
death investigation, um, we have the right to control the interior of that building. Um,
we also have the right to, um, go through stuff. Isthere gonna be anything in your
purse that would be of concern to you that would find?

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Nope.

Anything illegal that would cause a problem or concern?

No.

Okay,_ could'we look through it just so I can verify that? How did you manage to get
your job with Prince? You said you?ve only worked with him forabout a year and a

half. Did you know him before that or?

No, I, used to model around town here, and the make-up artist that worked with his
band knew me and so the position that opened up and she told me and (inaudible)

Okay. so you kind of got lucky in that circumstance and so, how was-he to work for?
He was (inaudible) and he was an amazing person.

Yup, yup. Where did, what companies did you model for before this then? Were you
doing private stuff or did you, were you connected with a company or?

I worked with agen, different agencies in town.
Okay. When did you start your modeling career?

About, after I graduated college.

Oh, so how old are you today?

26. Well, I?ll be 26 next week.

About 26?

What day is it?

Today is the 21St I think. Isn?t it? I

Okay, yeah, uh-huh.

When is'your birthday?
Um-s my birthday.
80, it's okay if I look through here?

Go for it.

Okay.

There?s just-a bunch of junk in there. My room is a mess too.
Yeah.

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PMapologize forthat. i know l?m going through women?s purses it?s, you know,
kind of no man's land. You find, ah, you know, everything short of the kitchen sink so.
So who would you have to get in touch with, Maren, to feel comfortable with um,
being able to talk to me about the private side of Prince?s life because i said our, our
concern is is not to spread rumors about the 

Right.

But we also want to try and control rumors about the man and you know- as well as i
do that, given his per, perception and notoriety that there?s gonna be a million rumors 
that are gonna go on around about him.

Right.

Um, and 

i just have to talk to my family for a sec.

Okay. Your family, you mean, your mom and dad 

Yeah.

Or other people?

And then I just need to figure out what they suggest. I mean, it?s, it's 

The only thing I?m asking, Meron, isjust for people to be honest. That?s, that's all I
can do is ask for people to be honest about what they know. 

You're gonna find a lot of cash in there.

Okay, howmuch is a lot of cash?

I do a lot of like tour book sales and stuff like that.
Okay. What?s a lot-of cash?

Um, well, there should be, i don?t remember how much is in there, but there should
be like 3 something in there. 2, 3 thousand.

Okay. I haven?t run across cash in this envelope yet.

(inaudibie) 

in the back? Okay. Is. that, and that?s typical for you to carry that kind of money?
Yeah. 1

Yeah? 80, as Prince's Personal Assistant what does he have you doing? Do you set
appointments for him? Do 

i do everything.

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Okay. So, it looks like you're also, you must be getting mail to (inaudible)

MB: (inaudible) uh-huh.

PM: Dto you get it right at the hotel or do you have a PO box in town that it gets dropped
a .

MB: No, at the hotel.

PM: This must be the envelope with the cash.

MB: Yes.

PM: Is that a (inaudible)

MB: No, that's a disc burner.

PM: Disc burner? ljust wanna make sure you and are in agreement, -in agreement to
what you got here for money. ljust, have to count some cash, Chris.

CN: - Now Angie?s done. So we got everybody done.

PM: Yeah, i think Meron was their last meeting so it you wanna touch base with Dewitt
and then kind of see where we?re at. . 

CN: Okay.

PM: Okay.

CN: Um, she?s gonna need a r, a ride back.

PM: She is? Okay.

CN: Because the other two have a, a doctor?s appointment.

PM: Yup, okay, so we can either drop you back-off at um, the hotel or um, Paisley Park is
gonna be a place where you can?t go right now. Um, so i can help you out with that
so, it?s up to you if you want to take a ride or if you want to walk or, it's up to you.

MB: i can go back to the hotel.

PM: Okay, so um, Wejust have some cash we have to count, Ang.

AN: Okay, do you want me to help you with that or?

PM: Yeah, I think maybe if we just divide it out here and, she thinks there should be about
3 grand here.

AN: Okay.

MB: 350 something (inaudible)

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That should be a thousand.

AN: . Did Jasmine get you (inaudible)
MB: Uh?huh.
AN: on, okay, good. was worried that (inaudible)
MB: Thank you so much 
AN: No, you're welcome
MB: (inaudible) 
PM: Should be 6 hundred and 30 in that pile. Is that about what you 
MB: 3,630, yeah'that makes sense.
PM: 3,630.
MB: Uh-huh. I
PM: And then we got this envelope also. And what?s, what?s the tour book money? What
. is, what is that?
MB: It's a tour book that we?re doing um, we?re selling through peer, through peer to peer
distribution. 
PM: - Uh?huh.
MB: - So i sell it for whole sale price and then they 
PM: Yeah, but what's in the, what's in the tour book? I mean, 
MB: Oh, um, it?s a tour book. So he just did a tour recently it's a piano microphone show
so there?s a couple pictures and, you 
PM: Okay.
MB: loan kind of show you.
PM: Yeah, Ijust, I?m trying to understand what marketing thing through
Paisley or? 
MB: Sorry if my (inaudible) merchandising. I
PM: Yup. Okay, so then you arrange tours with other artists and that kind of stuff?
MB: (inaudible) 
PM: Okay, just, but I mean, if, if i bought a tour through you do I get to 
MB: It's not a tour. it?s a tour book.
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So, it's a bunch of pictures of Prince from the shows.

PM: Okay.

MB: ltt's kind of something that they can purchase. It's kindoflike the t~shi_rts that they

uy. . - 

PM: Yup, okay, so the merchandise and the, okay, all right.

MB: So it?s a 

PM: So I would, I was trying to understand if it was a, um, like a tour of the facility, tour
someplace else, a backstage pass 

MB: It?s, it?sjust his, his, his the (inaudible)

I PM: it's his way of being able to merchandise himself and make some extra money on

the, on the other side, right? -

MB: Yeah, something like that, yeah. I think this one might have been for a CD.

PM: Ah, it doesn't say. lt?sjust got Bremer Bank on the outside ofit.

MB: Oh, that might actually be my cash. Sorry, it was, that?s actually my cash.

ON: We're gonna take off (inaudible) 

PM: Okay, yup.

UF: (inaudible) see you later.

UM: Um, we?re gonna go to the apartment and we're all there.

MB: Okay,

UM: So, you said you'll take her?

CN: Yup, we?ll take her.

PM: Yeah, we'll get her back to the hotel one way or the other.

UM: Thank you. How do we get out sir? (inaudible) We're just a phone call away.

PM: - They got side tracked so now I gotta recount. So, there?s a hundred there and I think
there's a hundred here, so it should be 200. Does that sound right, Meron?

MB: Huh?

PM: 200?

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'Yup.

There should be a hundred there.
Perfect.

Okay, and put that back in the envelope. ljust wanted .

- Keep that separate, right?

Yeah, that's separate.

Yes, yes, one's here and ones there, okay? Actually, I'm gonna hand that to ya and
l'm' sure that I messed up your purse so didn?t put stuff back in the right order
can arrange it. Um, if you called your parents to talk tothem about the
circumstance that you?re in um, because I don't want to keep going back and forth,
Meron, i want to figure out what you feel Comfortable withbut I said atthe same time
um, we?re trying to understand the issue of concern with Prince. i know that people
were concerned about him today and that's the reason you guys were there. Um, and
like I said, from what I know at this point there is an issue ofconcern with him
struggling with some chemical dependency'stui?f. Whether it was um, prescription
meds or pain meds or, or something else, but, again, i reasonably believe that-you as
his assistant would have some of that history which may help us explain the 
circumstances of why he?s there today because in reality what we are trying to figure.
out is was this something that was a medical event with him? Was it an overdose? Or
did somebody murder the man? And so what we?re, that, that in any death
investigation that's, those are the questions that We have to answer.

I understand.

And that?s, that?s why I'm asking you to be honest about what you know, okay. Um,
because, again, he?s a very high profile person and people are going to spread 
rumors no matter how much you try to control them. Um, but it's important for us to
know on the front half what those concerns would be because if, if I talk to somebody
who was his confidant and somebody who knew him and dealt with him and worked -
with him every day, can discount some of those rumors, okay, but that?s important
for me, okay, and it?s important, I think, to reSpect Prince?s life in that way. To not
allow people to spread those negative rumors, okay? -

agree.
And so 
That's why I need 

But that, that, that is also ourjob so what I want you to do is urn, take a couple
minutes, make those couple phone calls that you need to and then I'd like to check
back in with you and then um, maybe we can answer some of those questions that
you?re a little concerned about. Um, again, I know that he's your friend, he?s your
boss, you have these confidentiality agreements, but it really is important for us to

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understand how we could best explain the circumstances that we found him in today,
okay?

Uh-huh?

I know that makes sense to you and I know that you understand that.

Uh?huh.

Okay? So, um, what I?ll do is I?ll let you go jump out in the lobby or you can use that
conference room to make a couple of those calls. Um, how long a time do you think
you?ll need for that cause I want to give you a reasonable time for but I don?t want to
drag it out too long either.

Um, about a half hour?

Okay, that?s reasonable, okay. Um, I have your phone number in case we lose touch
with each other cause during that half an hour I?ll make some phone calls and stuff
too, um, for things that I need to accomplish and then we?ll get back together.

Okay.

Okay, um,.do you need anything else right now? Um, you know, I?m not saying that
you can?t leave the building. It?s easier for us to find each other but I need to, do you
need to step outside, take a walk, relieve some stress a little bit?

I think my parents actually might be around so I can call them (inaudible).

Okay, so I Will, where should I meet: you. in a half hour? Should I meet you in that
lobby where you and saw each other befOre? In that common area?

Yeah.
Okay, so I?ll meet you there in a half hour.
Okay.

So, what time is it now? About 12:23, okay? Anybody else that you need help getting
in contact with that you haven?t been able to? 

No, I?m good.

You?re good? Okay. Let me turn this off and time new again is approximately 12:23,

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PM: Our conversations.

AK: Yeah.

PM: it just helps us remember what we talk about.

AK: 'Oh, it?s fine.? 

PM: You know it's ah, um, not hereto say that, you know, anybody did anything wrong.
It's just trying to understand the circumstances of how you guys ended 

AK: Yeah.

PM: Um, at Paisley Park and what was going on.

AK: Yeah.

PM: Um, andl?m hoping that we can have some open conversations. You know, l?m
hearing - 

AK: Yeah.

PM: That there?are some concerns-and do you refer, Prince?s legal name is what? Do

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PM: You don't even know? Okay, cause I do, I do 

AK: 1 think it's Prince according to Wikipedia.

PM: Yeah, but I do also know that he has um, other names that he?s?been known by in the
past.

AK: Yeah, like the symbol.

PM: i laid my pen down here someplace and now I?m gonna find it. It probably fell out of
my pocket. Hey, Mark, do you have a pen I can steal from you?

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Ah, a couple of them if you could. Thank you, sir.

Anything else let me know. l'll be back.

Yup. 'Do you need anything to drink at all, Andy?

No, 'l?m okay.

Water or anything?

No, I?m okay. Do, do you want me to just kind start and (inaudible)

Um, yeah, hang on, let I kind of got a process for this and if I skip it then if forget to
come back to it so.

Sure, yeah, no problem.

All right, so for the recording, ah, today?s date is ab, 4(21/2016 and the time now is 
'10: 54 and meeting with Andrew and I don yet have a file number on this but this
is regarding a, a death investigation. Ah and do you prefer Andrew or Andy or what
do you prefer?

Andrew. 

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AK: .Yeah,_No dots, no dashes, and "capitals don?t matter.

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PM: Okay, I have to put my glasses on Um, can you um call Wags? She was calling me
before. She wanted us to have some piece of information or didn't know if she
wanted us to ask a question or..

. AN: Yeah Ill call her right away 

PM: So, if you would like to do that Okay, so um, lknow that when we met out at Paisley
Park, Andrew um, your purpose for coming here was to meet with Prince today,
right?

AK: Yeah.

PM: And, urn, you know, I said as, as I understand what hearing is there were some
medical' Issues or behavior concerns that people were having with Prince and I, and I
don't know what the background' Is with that so I hoping that you can have an open
conversation with me so maybe that will help us 

AK: Sure.

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PM: Um, and, you know, sometimes I know when we start dealing with medical stuff or
chemical dependency things or people being afraid that, you know, they?re kinda
miss representing the person. That sometimes that creates roadblocks.

AK: Sure.

PM: But I?m hoping that we can have some open communication.

AK: Sure. -

PM: Because it?ll help us understand and maybe have some explanations of why we
found him today the way he is. 

AK: Okay, yeah.

PM: Does that'make sense to you?

AK: Sure, yeah, and I, I?ll tell you what I know. I?ll tell you everything that I know.

PM: Okay, and that, and that?s great, and l, and i just bring that up because sometimes
we do run into that a little bit, so, um, it, that?s why it?s the best way to be able to try
and, and figure out what, what?s going on.

AK: Okay.

PM: Okay, so, you came to Minnesota for what reasonCalifornia last night.

PM: Okay.

AK: Um, and Prince?s people were in touch With our, with our medical practice.

PM: Okay, and what, what medical praCtice is that?

AK: It?s called Recovery Without Walls.

PM: Okay, and what do you guys, um, specialize in?

AK: We specialize in pain management.

PM: Okay.

AK: Addiction medicine, mood disorders.

PM: Okay.

AK: I don?t know that much, that many specifics about Prince?s case. I was gonna ask him
a couple things. i was sent by my dad to kind of talk to them and to see if our
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And, and, and just so that I understand when you reference your dad, is your dad a
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Yeah. So he's, so this is my dad, right there.

Okay, 50, Howard Korn, Kornfeld?

Yeah, he never. talked to Prince.

Okay.

Yeah.

So like he was sending you as the representative to come out here 

Yeah, he couldn't come out.

Okay, and, and just see whether or not Prince qualified for your program 

Right.

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Or if it was something that he would want to do.

Okay. ..

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Do, do you know was Prince aware that you guys were gonna come out here? Was
this kind of an intervention thing or what do you what do you think the purpose was
before you even got to the door? 

Tobe honest] don?t know.

Okay.

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and the girl, the girl, they wanted to urn, give him a lot of privacy.

Right.

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meet with Prince.

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met together and they were concerned abOut him cause they hadn?t heard about,
heard, heard from him and I kind of encouraged them to like check on him.

Okay.

And he said and they said well why don' you just come with us to the, whatever that
place' IS called

Yeah, they call it, they call it Paisley Park.

Come to Paisley Park and they couldn?t find him and encouraged them to check and
then ljust heard a scream and I just, I knew, you know, just like right there.

Okay.
I just, you know, you, you just kind of know, 

So, do you rememberjust for a, a timeline for me, Andrew, so when did your flight
come in last night, roughly?

80, my flight landed at like, um, early, 6 in the morning as a red eye.
80, yesterday? I

Today. I

Today so, you were in at 6am this morning?

Yeah. lwas in at 6am this morning. So, I'm a little tired, obvi0usly.

Yup, well I can understand that. Um, do you remember when you left your hotel to
come out here? Did you come up straight out from the airport? 

So, I got a car, they, they, they called some carfor me to be inthe hotel. I talked with
them. They, we met at the hotel. Um, Kirk and, I'm forgetting the girl?s name.

It, was it the tall, taller gal, Meron?

Meron, yeah.?

Okay.

Um, Kirk and Meron, we had breakfast together and then they were like okay let's
just go over there and I said, ?Okay,? and was kind ofjust expecting to show Prince
a brochure and talk to him and, you know, we were gonna like have a, you know,
possibly have his jet fly out 

Uh-huh.

Do our, do our program.

Uh?huh. Okay.

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9 in the morning? Can ljust look at my calendar?

Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

i just want to look at the time now.

just wondered if when you pulled up if you looked at the dash on the car or if you
happened to see a clock or if you? 

I think it' was like 9.

Or if you got some messages at about the same time when you got there and it, it
just helps create a timeframe for us when you got there.

I think like 9, Qish, 9:15.

Okay.

And I waited in that place where you, where we found the bags for like awhile.
Okay.

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With, with Meron, um, and this is the first time I've met them.
Yup, it?s okay.

And I think I?m just having a few memory issues (inaudible)

No, and it?s, you know, this, this isn?t to create stress on that end.

Yeah, he, no, no, no, no, I'm okay. I'm okay.

And I, and I struggle with names every once in a while too 
Yeah.

Especially if it?s 

Kirk', Kirk really stuck in memory, in my head so 

Yup, but brand new people, yeah, and you noticed when I met her I had to ask her
her name a couple times to make sure that was pronouncing it the right way.

Yeah, and then urn, you know, they, they were looking a little nervous and, and then
they went to go, they went to go check, look around for him and then'l heard a

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Okay. 

But they, you guys got, they got there really quickly. I felt him. My like, i put my hand
on him. He was warm. He was rig, rigor mortis.

Okay.

Um, yeah, so that's when i decided not to do CPR.
Okay, so where, where did you guys find him?

In the elevator.

In, in the elevator itself?

In the elevator itself. That?s where I saw him.

Do, do you remember which room the elevator was or which floorthe elevator was
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it was on the floor that we were on.

Okay, so main level?

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Main level, yeah, and if you?re looking at the 

Uh-huh.

He was on the right side of the elevator.

Do you remember face up, face down, seated?

Side, on his side.

Do you. remember which side he was laying?

Yup, left side. I th, I mean, I said that, yeah, I think so. Yeah.

Okay. Um, did it look like he had just collapsed there or when you first saw him did
he look like he was in a contorted body position or did it just look like he was laying
there?

It looks like he collapsed but he was a little contorted, you know.

Okay.

It looks like he collapsed on his own.

Okay, 

But his body Was a 

So, laying on his left side.

It almost looks like maybe he, what if he just like laid down to kind of like go to sleep.
Okay.

And just, 

Okay.

That's maybe what it looks like almost.

Okay.

He got dizzy and 

Okay, anything that you noticed immediately from looking at his face or any part of
his body that, and I don't know, because I havent seen 

Yeah.
Um, anything that looked like trauma to you, blood coming 

No. No.

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PM: Um, fluids that you noticed?

AK: No.

PM: Okay.

AK: He, he looked dead.

PM: Okay. Didn?t, it doesn?t sound like they gave you a lot of history but, you know,
obviously your dad?s facility, you know, helps recovering addicts. Is that, didthey give
you any of the back story of why they wanted you to come out and visit with him
other than to see if the program would fit him I mean did they talk to you about what
he was struggling with what he was using what he was doing?

AK: They, you know, l, I think like we like to, like we like to keep things like really, you

- know, really private, but..

PM: Yeah.

AK: I think obviously there was a, there was probably a drug' Issue involved and that?s
what I inferred. 

PM: Okay, did did they say whether it was street drugs or prescriptions. Did, do you, and
i don't know if you? re if it matters for your facility.

AK: l, I, I could infer that it was probably like prescription.

PM: Okay, and thats what 1? wondering because you, you would know the dialogue


AK: Right, and l, was like literally there to ask and all, you know, ask 

PM: Get all that history.

AK: Get all that history, um from him, you know, obviously, but yeah.

PM: So you don't, you know, you're speculating. You don't have a good answer for it
cause you didn?t get to meet the client yet.

AK: Yeah, right, right. You know, obviously, you know, my, my dad was in contact with his
"people. It was kind of like really quick like I was told, you know, like get on the plane,
you know, do, you know do 

PM: So 

AK: This happens sometimes. I?ve done this before.

PM: Okay.

AK: You know, like when we have like a high profile client.

PM: Yup.

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AK:

And it?s just like, yeah, I mean, it just, yeah, and, yeah, I mean, he, I, l, I could tell you
some stuff that I learned from um, Kirk like that they have this really tight knit, you
know 3 or, 3 people that, you know, help him.

PM: Uh-huh.

AK: You know. .

PM: So what, what did he tell you? Who are the people that help him?

AK: Yeah, and they, and they told me, they told me that he was struggling with um, they

told me that he was struggling with some, some opiates.

PM: Okay.

AK: Yeah, that?s what I got.

PM: Okay.

AK: Thatis and that's about all that knew that he might be in opiate withdrawal.

PM: Okay.

AK: You know.

PM: Okay.
AK: .That he wasn?t feeling that well.
PM: Okay. When did you, when did your um, recovery center get the call to come out? Do
you remember when your dad first started having contact? Was 

AK: My dad told me that he, he?d been on the phone all of yesterday. I

PM: Okay.

AK: 80, yesterday.
PM: Do you hold a medical degree like your dad 

AK: i don't.

PM: You don?t?

AK: I?m pre-med.

PM: Pre~med?

AK: Yeah.

PM: Okay, so you?re working on it?

AK: Yeah, I?m working on it. ljust took my MCAT exam. 

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PM: Okay.

AK: Um, i don?t know if this is my field.

PM: Okay.

AK: Yeah.

PM: Haven't, haven?t quite figured that out yet?

AK: Yeah.

PM: if that's where you finally wanna end up?

AK: Yeah, yeah. I, l, have um, I have Crohn's disease which is an inflammation of the
gut. 

PM: Uh?huh.

AK: And so I?m more interested in inflammatory conditions.

PM: Okayreally respect my dad and I love working with him.

PM: _Uh-huh.

AK: And I do work with him and I also have my own kind of business too.

PM: Okay. What, what?s your business?

AK: Um, I do like consulting and marketing for health professionals themselves.

PM: Okay.

AK: In private practice.

PM: Okay.

AK: What happened was, I was helping my dad with that and a lot of his colleagues got
jealous and asked, asked for my help.

PM: Okay.

AK: 30, It's kind of a specific field, but 

PM: Do you have a name of your company 

AK: Yeah.

PM: Or do you have business cards for your company?

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I don?t have, my business cards arrive 

PM: Oh, okay.

AK: In the mail, um, it?s called Practitioner 

PM: Okay.

AK: LLC.

PM: And where are you based out of? California?

AK: Yeah, out of my house. It?s what, it?s what us millennials tend to do.

PM: Okay, yup, don?t always want to go to an office setting and, yup, yup.

AK: Yeah, it?s, it?s going good, but I, but it?s not, it's not where my heart's at. My heart, I
want to go medical school or do a program or something.

Okay. Um, anything that you, you said that Kirk had talked to you that Prince has got
an inner circle of people and you know what, I, I?ve never met the man personally. I
do know that he can be a very private person and'there?s always 

AK: And that's what I got that 
PM: And there, there's always been that aura around 
AK: Very 
PM: Of people being very protective of him, bad or good. It doesn't matter. They?ve
always been very protective of him. .
AK: Yeah. Yeah. .
PM: Um, do you, out of any of that conversation that you had with Kirk, who are the 3

people, and maybe those would be people also that would be able to help us figure
out what happened. Um, did Kirk tell you who those other confidants were of his?

AK: Yeah, so, um, the, R0, Roni, the black, 

PM: Okay, okay, Meron?

AK: Meron.

PM: Yup, okay.

AK: Um, Kirk.

PM: Uh~huh.

AK: And there's one other lady that I could tell you her name.

PM: Okay, sure. Was that the, was that the same gal that was there?

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AK:

No

PM: The, the other girl?

AK: No.

PM: Okay.

AK: This urn, this is the other girl. Her name is, and we had, we had kind of a, she, she
helped arrange my travel over here.

PM: Okay. I

AK: Her-name is Phaedra.

PM: -

AK: P, P-h-a-e-d-r?a and, and, Kirk and um, Meron will tell you about her.

PM: Okay. Um, did you have a contact number for Phaedra?

AK: 

PM: Or, an, an email orlsomething orhow you guys communicated?

AK: Yeah.

PM: Did you have a last name that went with that?

AK: Oh, yeah, probably. Okay, so it?s Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins. L-a-m-k-i-n-s.

PM: Okay and her-contact?

AK: Um, sorry, I have a lot of numbers in here.

PM: 'No, it?s all right.

AK: (inaudible) that are not, ah, I mean, you?re gonna be able to get that information


PM: Yeah, I will but I just was wondering have it, 

PM: Okay. I

AK: Let?s see (inaudible) okay, so i think it's 

PM: Uh-huh'.

AK: 

PM: Okay.

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AK:

Yup, also just connected (inaudible) okay.

PM: So when you flew in who was your, who was your contact when you flew in? Was it
Kirk?

AK: It was Kirk.

PM: Okay.

AK: Yeah.

PM: And then which hotel are you gonna be staying at?

AK: Yeah, I?m probably 

PM: Are you just gonna fly back?

AK: If, if, if I?m allowed to go home I'd, I?d probably like to go home.

PM: Okay. I

AK: 

PM: And didn?t know if you'd be'able to get a connecting flight back?yet today 

AK: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.

PM: If you?re just .

AK: Okay, so the hotel um, is, l, I think I have the itinerary in there but le, let me just see if

I have it right here. Oh, I have the card. have the hotel card.

PM: No, that's an right. I

AK: What?s the hotel I?m in? This was all booked so it?s last minute.

PM: Okay.

AK: There's the hotel card. It's not a very helpful hotel card.

PM: Carlson Country. I

AK: Carlson Country inn and Suites.

PM: Okay. is that one located down by the airport or where 

AK: It?s like really Iclose to here, I think.

PM: Close to Chan?

AK: Yeah.

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PM: Or close to the airport cause there's a couple of them. ..

AK: It?s not close to the airport. It's close to here.

PM: Okay. I know there?s one in Eden Prairie. I think there?s one that's close to the airport.
I don't know if 

AN: There?s one here.

PM: Is there one here in town too? Okay. Um, the reason that I wanted to control the
bags, Andrew, just because, again, it's a death scene and we, we have to try and
document things that are, that are in place in the locations we?re at and,
unfortunately, the, that is such a large complex.

AK: Yeah.

PM: Um, you know, we?re gonna have to spend some time um, you know, just going
through and seeing if we can try and, we wanna make sure there were no other
people that were in the building um, and then if there is some other evidence that
might be there that would help explain Prince?s condition; Um, is there anything in
your bag that would be of concern just if we would look through it just to make sure
that we know what?s in it?

AK: There is something in there that would be of concern to your

PM: - Okay, and is that something that you're willing to tell me about 

.AK: Yeah, I mean, yeah, can I, can I pull it out?

PM: What is it?

AK: it?s some p, there, I have some pills with me.

PM: Okay, and what kind of pills?

AK: Um, I have some, some Buprenorphine with me.

PM: Okay.

AK: Which is like ah, a drug that?s used, you know, for opiate addicts and l, I brought
these on my own accord. - -

PM: Uh?huh.

AK: It's just when ltravel with this, these are the types of things, i have no intention of
using them, you know what I mean? I have um, like a little Ativan.

PM: Okay.

AK: 'With me which is like a benzodiazapine like if someone was having like a seizure.

PM: Okay.

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In front of me.

PM: Okay.

AK: You know what I mean?

PM: Okay, yup.

AK: Um there's like um ah a su an anti? ~nausea suppository if someone was like puking
all over the place

PM: Uh-huh.

AK: Um, I have with-me.

PM: Okay.

AK: Um, and that?s it, yeah.

PM: Okay, so, arethey controlled meds?

AK: They are, they are 

PM: That. that you would?ve had a script for or they?re controlled meds that you would've
taken from the facility if you were going out to meet with a client?

AK: Um, yeah, I didn?t take them from, you know, l, I brought them on my own accord.

PM: Okay. -

AK: You know. They?rejust. I didn't tell my-dad that I, that I brought them.

PM: Okay.

AK: ljust sort of like have them I, [just know ldon't even really like think about it. Ijustl
like haye them on me and I guess that not a very good idea.

PM: Well, no, and try, and Intrying to understand the 

AK: Sure.

PM: That we were 

AK: Sure.

PM: Um you know what going, you ?.re you ?,re you re going to visit with somebody who Is
potentially a drug addict.

AK: Yeah.

PM: You're bringing controlled prescriptions that don't belong to you.

AK: Right.

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PM: Um, and so then are you even qualified to determine what's going on with this person
to be able to administer the medications?

AK: Yeah, i, l, I wouldn?t i wouldn?t administer them under, under, under, under any
circumstances without consulting like a, like a physician.

PM: Right, so, so then, you know, jUst the reasonable question would be, Andrew, then

why would you carry them, you know? -

AK: Yeah The honest reason is is because if someone? a like, you know if someone 3 like


PM: Uh-huh.

Right in front of you, 

PM: . But you, 

AK: It takes a while 

PM: But, but you don?t know if you're helping or hurting if you?re not qualified to 

AK: Well, well, I would call a doctor.

PM: - Right, but you?re not helping or hurting and you?re not qualified 

AK: Sure.

PM: Do that and calling a doctor is one thing 

AK: Sure.

PM: Maybe taking direction from your dad over the phone' Is another thing, but that, that?s
all m, l? just asking you to be honest about it.

AK: being, I just, I just, I just am being completely honest.

PM: Yup, and that?s, 

AK: And that?sjust, and that?s it, and the, and what happened was is ljust had them in my
backpack and my backpack was in that room. I never tookthem out. I never touched
them.

PM: Uh? huh, but, but why did you bring them with. I mean, you say you carry them, but
why did you bring them with Did you, did you think that if Prince was willing to meet
with you, were they gonna be medications that you were going to help stabilize him?
What, what were you going to use them for? Or you know, other rumors that we
heard that, that have occurred at that location 13 people just go there to party and get
high. So, is that one.

AK: No.

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PM:

So, we?re going to see somebody who has a um, chemical dependency 

AK: Yeah.

PM: And then we get people that are coming to help him that also bring things that are,
unless they're prescribed to you, illegal to possess.

AK: 'Sure.

PM: Right? So, I'm just trying to understand the circumstance behind it, Andrew.

AK: Yeah, so, um, I could just say, couldjust say again, the reason why I have them
with me is because um, I, ljust know that, like, if there, if there, was an alcoholic who
was having a seizure, you know, i, you know, would call a, you know, and was on
the phone with 

PM: Uh-huh.

AK: And. I said, look, I have some, I have some Valium or I have some whatever.

PM: Uh-huh. -

AK: Should i give this to this person?

PM: Yeah, okay.

AK: And I would never give it myself.

PM: Okay.

AK: I would never ever give it myself.

PM: Okay, but then, you know, instead, I?m just, I'm just, l.?m just trying to understand the 
reasonableness question.

- AK: Or i would be on the phone with my dad or like 

PM: The, and knowing that your dad is in the medical field, that?s who I would expect that
you would probably call.

AK: Yeah.

PM: You know, and 1, and I think 

AK: Yeah, if he 

PM: If we were honest about it because if you call our dispatchers they can?t tell you to
give somebody something.

AK: Uh~huh.

PM: Our medics aren't gonna tell you to give anybody anything until 

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AK:

Sure.

PM: Until they get there, 

AK: Sure.

PM: Um, but I do understand when you get people that are of high profile you're'trying to
keep, you know, law enforcement away. You?re trying to keep the medics away if
they?re having a medical emergency to help them get to a facility 

AK: Sure.

PM: Maybe a little bit more private. Sometimes people try to intervene. I

AK: Sure.

PM: And so that would be one of the questions that i would have 

AK: I wouldn?t I

PM: Did some, did, did somebody try to intervenethey discovered 

AK: No.

PM: And things were going bad and somebody tried. to intervene by giving him something.

AK: If, if I had discovered him and he was like, you know, having some distress, I would, i 
would call, I would call my dad.

PM: . Yup,

You know, or i would call 9-1-1.

PM: Yup.

AK: That?s what I would do.

PM: Yup, and that?s all that I?m trying to understand, Andrew.

AK: I know, is it, yeah, and it?s just like, I mean, it?sjust like if, by the time l, like, you
Egow, sometimes like by the time a prescription can come, you know, someone could

PM: Well?, 

AK: And, and, and like, you know, the medications have, like I have an anti?nausea, you
know, it's a suppository. It?s. not, that?s not a controlled substance or anythingsounds like the other stuff that you, that you do have

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AK:

And it?s very, it's very, it's not that much-of it. You know what I mean?

PM: Right, but, but you also know, you know, being in the medical 

AK: Sure.

PM: That you can?t possess it without it either being prescribed to you or you having the
ability to control it.

AK: I understand.

PM: And it, right at this point from what you're explaining to me you have neither.

AK: Okay. I

PM: Right? 80, urn, I appreciate you being honest with me about that.

AK: Uh-huh.

PM: Um, knowing that, um, we are gonna collect those and keep those.

AK: Yeah, I understand.

PM: Um, is there anything else?

AK: No. I

PM: That, that would be in the 

AK: No.

PM: That we would have 

AK: No.

PM: Have any concern about?

AK: No.

PM: Okay, um, do you have any other medications on your person?

AK: No.

PM: Or anything else like that?

AK: No, just one little bag.

PM: Pardon me?

AK: Just one bag.

PM: One bag, and that?s inyour backpack.

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AK: Yeah.

PM: Okay, I

AK: Can I show you where it is?

PM: Well, we?ll, we?ll probably end up, we?re gonna go through and inventory it um, and I?ll
be giving you the bag back maybe at a later time. We?ll figure out what I can or can?t
give you'back at this point.

AK: Yeah.

PM: Um, just because, again, the possession of that would be illegal.

AK: I understand. I

PM: 80, um, we wanna try and work through that a little bit 

AK: Okay.

PM: Um, you know, our, our primary focus at this point is, is trying to 

AK: i know. -

PM: What?s going on with Prince.

AK: i don?t thinkthatlike, I don?t think that I really kind of fully thought through the I

implications, you know, that ljust took on.

PM: . Well, you know, 

AK: di, eh, it?s just, it was almost like unconscious, you know what I mean, that 

PM: Yeah, was, was that a bag that you checked 

AK: They?re just sit, they?re just sitting in my medicine cabinet.

PM: Yeah.

I AK: You know what i mean?

PM: Okay.

AK: I don?t even remember where they were from, you know what I mean? Like, I don?t, I
haven?t, I haven?t looked at them in mo, you know, I don?t, I don?t remember where
they?re from. It?s just 

PM: Yeah, but it, again, Andrew, I?m not trying to box you into a corner.

AK: Yeah, no, i know.

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PM: But you brought them along for a purpose, you know, and I think that you were going
to see a high profile client that you thought was maybe gonna have some problems
and you brought some made with you that if he was in an unstable condition I think
you were gonna try and help him.

AK: I would call a doctor.

PM: Yeah, but I think the purpose for bringing them with was to try and help him okay?
Um, again, the risk and l, and I guess what I was gonna ask Is was the um, did you
'check the bag or was it a carry on? Because surprised that you didn?t get caught
through screening that if, if they? re not In a prescription bottle and if they re just laying
in there loose that somebody wouldn?t have intercepted them and, and whether it
was missed' In screening or if you just checked them through.

AK: Yeah. Carry'on. I

PM: Okay, so, yeah, sometimes they do a real good bag search because really at that
point they can tell you that um, you could' ve been arrested for the felony right at, right
at airport security.

AK: Wow, and that could?ve destroyed my 

PM: Either, either on the front end, you know, um, or on the back end so, you know, if
there, if there 

AK: Am I gonna get, am I gonna get charged with a felony-for (inaudible)?

PM: You know, our focus at this point, Andrew, is to understand what's going on.

AK: Yeah.

PM: Okay, um,- this is an issue. I?m not gonna lie to you. I?m, I?m, I?m not here, like I said,
I?m not here at this point to try and jam you up for something 

AK: Sure.

PM: But, um, there is a concern, given the fact of the circumstances that were presented
with Prince that, you know, he?s found dead in the place where he lives.

AK: Yeah.

PM: And you know, like i said, the concern is is 

AK: Sure.

PM: You know, that peoplehad for him is that he was abusing narcotics or medications
and then other people are showing up and they have illegal narcotics.

AK: Yeah.

PM: Or medications with them.

AK: Well, I?m just trying to be as honest as possible.

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No, and I, and I appreciate, like I said, I?m not trying to harp on it, Ijust, Ijust want
you to understand that we, we have to address that issue. -

AK: Okay.

PM: And, you know, um, one i can?t return those things to you because, 

AK: - That?s okay, I don?t, yeah.

PM: I, you know, in, 

AK: I feel, I feeling really stupid, you know what I mean, like right now, yeah. Ijust


PM: Well, but, I, I, I believe that, you know, I think you?re a really smart guy.

AK: I am.

PM: And, and that? Why I said that I think you came here with the intent to help um, and I
believe that.

AK: Yeah.

PM: It? just I also understand the aura of secrecy that goes along with the Issues with
Prince or anybody that' 5 high profile like him.

AK: Uh-huh.

PM: That people want to help and keep him out of the public eye.

AK: Sure.

PM: - You know, sol do know that his people really become uncomfortable when law
enforcement shows up at his door.

AK: Yeah.

PM: Because it, again, he?s such a private person that they don want anything negatively
to affect him.

AK: Yeah.

PM: Um, and so, you know, do I think that, you know, once information gets out that he?s
passed away I assume that there gonna be a million stories that are gonna go on,
gonna go around about him.

AK: What I, what I, what I don'twant Is, I have, you know, I have a future career and just
don't want this to harm 

PM: Yeah, 

AK: That?s the only thing.

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PM: Yup, and, and l, I am not making any promises to you one way or another. All I?m
saying is that appreciate you being honest about it instead of having me find it and
then have you lie about it, okay.

AK: Yeah.

PM: And that, and that sometimes is a worst case scenario when people box themselves

into a corner and, and try and hide it or lie about it, 

AK: Okay, okay, well, I?m glad I did the best thingappreciate that, so, um, when you, um, so you guys got to the
building about 9, 9:15. You went to that waiting room that you and were at.

AK: was sitting in there with Rona.

PM: And, and, do, do you know how long it was in between the time that um, you were
waiting and the time that he was discovered. i mean, was it a couple of minutes?

AK: 15 minutes.

PM: Do you think, was it that long?

AK: Yeah, 10 to '15 minutes.

PM: Just cause they were having a hard time finding him?

AK: And Kirk came back and was like nervous because he didn?t want to interrupt Prince
or something like that.

PM: So, do you think Kirk found him first and 

AK: I, I, think 

PM: Meron went with him 

AK: I think Kirk found him first and then Meron went with him.

PM: Cause was she with you originally?

AK: She was with me originally, yeah

PM: Okay Oh, okay, okay. You need anything else? Did, did Chris have something that I
should? we known about?

AN: It was that she wanted us to do it.

PM: Oh, okay; 

AN: Now I?m going with these guys.

PM: Oh, okay, thanks, Ang.

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AN: Yup.

PM: Okay. Do you know who, so there were five of you there, one was the doctor.

AK: The doctorjust showed up. He wasn?t there. I

PM: It, yeah, but he was there when I got there so I'm just trying to count the number of -
people so, it was you, Meron, Kirk, and then there were two other people.

AK: They showed up after. I I

PM: After?

AK: It was only me, Meron, and Kirk.

PM: Okay, do you know who the other two people were?

AK: I don?t, I don't know. I

PM: The, the other couple that was there?

AK: I don?t know who they were.

PM: If they were friends 

AK: They obviously seemed like friends.

PM: Okay.

AK: They seem like that's what they seemed like.

PM: Do you know how long after the others showed up, I mean, how long were you guys
at the building?

AK: I, ah, 10, 10 minutes?

PM: Okay.

AK: Everyone showed up really quick.

PM: Do 

And the doctor told me that he was just on a routine, 

PM: Was, was the plan that the doc, cause when I introduced myself to the doctor he had
some packets of information.

AK: Yeah.

PM: Did you know that he was 

AK: No. 

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PM:

Pass off any paperwork.

AK: I had no idea that he was, i had no idea that he was gonna come.

PM: Okay, so hejust happened to be there?

AK: Yeah.

PM: So I, that, that?s and maybe you don?t know the answer l?m trying to figure out what
this other inner workings was going on in the background.

AK: I had never met that doctor before nor did I even know that that doctor was involved.

PM: Okay.

AK: That was the first time i 

PM: He just showed up 

AK: Yeah.

PM: And did he show up after Prince was discovered or did, was "it before, while the time
you guys were looking for him? Do you remember 

AK: At like rig ht after, I

PM: Right after?

AK: Yeah, just like coincidentally like it seemed like._

PM: Did, did the doctor check him too, do you remember?

AK: No, the doctor did not check him, or, I, don?t'think so.

PM: Okay. I

AK: No, the, the doctor showed up after the police cars.

PM: Okay.

AK: Pretty, pretty sure.

PM: Okay.

AK: Pretty sure.

PM: Other than thejet lag thing um, taking any other medications, drinking this morning? I

AK: No.

PM: Anything else?

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AK: Absolutely not.

PM: Okay, all right.

AK: I take, I take a couple medications for my Crohn?s disease.

PM: Yup, okay.

AK: That?s all.

PM: That?s all right.

AK: Took them, took those this morning.

PM: Okay, um, there might be other questions that would come up, Andrew, but um, you
know, the best place I have for you right now is, is our lobby.

AK: I?d like to go to the bathroom, please.

PM: Oh, absolutely. You should say something so I 

AK: Okay.

PM: I can get this done to, I don?t, I don?t want you to be there uncomfortable.

AK: All right.

PM: Um, so, I don?t have any other questions. If there's something else that comes up I
will talk to you about it. 

AK: I'll see you.

PM: Yup, right now I'm not gonna return the backpack until we address that issue and
figure out how we?re gonna handle that. Um, and if you have any questions for me let
me know, okay? And be and ll be around okay? So gonna try and meet with

the other people and I gonna give you one of my cards and then gonna show
you where the restroom Is so that 

AK: Um, yeah, Ijust, Ijust want, you know, Ijust want you to know that like I, a really
good person and obviously you know that and I have a lot of big, I have a lot of big
dreams ahead of me

PM: Uh-huh.

AK: And I've never done anything illegal in my life. I?ve never been arrested.

PM: Yup. -

AK: I?ve never, you know and Ijust, I guess why I?m feeling scared and 

PM: Yup, no, I..

AK: (inaudible) I'm just seeing 

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PM:

AK:

PM:
AK:
PM:
AK:
PM:
AK:

PM:

Yup.

Some, something that would be a mark on my record that would ah, not allow
medical schools to admit me.

Yeah, 

And that would ruin my life.

i, i understand your concern.

So, I really hope that doesn?t happen because I really wanna help people.
Yup. I, I understand that. There we are. There's one of my cards, 
And, yeah, it"syalways like my policy to just be completely honest, 

Yup, and that?s all I can ask people to do, okay? Um, so we?re gonna turn this Off and
we're gonna get you to the restroom, Andrew. Time now is 11 :28.

ERRORS ANDIOR OMISSIONS MAY HAVE OCCURRED DURING THE TRANSCRIBING OF THIS
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ICR 16012559
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CARVER COUNTY OFFICE

 

CW: Detective Chris Wagner, #875

KJ: Kirk Anthony Johnson,?

DM: Sergeant Dewitt Meier, #813

UM: Unidentified Male

 

CW: This is a taped statement, ICR 16-12559 a recorded statement given by Kirk Anthony
Johnson, date of bird-in response to questions from Detective Chris Wagner,
badge #875. The statement is being taken at 7801 Audubon Road in Chanhassen, MN on
April 215?, 2018 beginning at 1150 hours. Please state your name and date of birth for the
record.

KJ: Kirk Anthony Johnson?

CW: And what is your mailing address Kirk?

KJ: 

CW: And what city is that?

KJ: .-

CW: ?and a cell phone for you?

KJ: -

CW: And do you have any other phone numbers?

KJ: No.

CW: Okay urn do you understand you are not under arrest and this is a voluntary
statement. 

KJ: Yes.

CW: Okay, ljust want to let you know that because the doors are closed for our privacy
but what I understood is you are ah Prince?s Head of Security?

KJ: I call it kind of Liaison, Security, Estate Manager.
CW: Yeah, ah a sister.

UM: (inaudible).

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KJ: Yeah.

UM: Thank you.

CW: Yep. Urn do you understand this conversation is being tape recorded?
KJ: Yes.

CW: Okay and are you underthe influence of any alcohol, drugs or medications that
would alter what you are telling mewill just start at the very beginning urn you have known Prince since.
KJ: Um 1984 is when first met him during Purple Rain, as a dancer.

CW: Okay and um through that you've, have you been here, worked here from that?
KJ: was just a band member from um 1989 to 1992 then I did the remixes and drum
programming from 1999..1992 to 1996 um from 1997 to 2000 was his drummer um and
then I left after thatjust to you know, continue my own journey as a urn health and fitness
instructor and then he..in 2009 he asked me if I would come back to just manage the
property, so I?ve kind of managed the property um from 2009 to this point.

CW: Okay and the property, is itjust this property?

KJ: No there?s, he has um a couple of houses, a storage building in..in Minneapolis, 3
church there some of them are just um yac..they?re vacant.

CW: Okay the houses are here in Chanhassen?

KJ: here's three houses in Chanhassen.

CW: Okay.

KJ: And then ah a office building in Chanhassen.

CW: Okay.

KJ: A storage building in Chanhassen and then just property and there?s a couple houses
in Minneapolis, I think his sister lives in and um I?m not sure of the other one and there's a
vacant church in North Minneapolis.

CW: Okay and so have you um been here then all the time for..since 2009?

KJ: Just in and mean pretty much, pretty much here.

CW: Okay.

KJ: ..um just kind of like just in different positons like I?ll be building manager and then I

was later on um I was a drummer but pretty consistent but would work here and then at
my otherjob so.

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CW: Okay, but you?ve..l would assume that of everybody that we've talked to today
though you were the most connected.

KJ: Probably well.

CW: His, his music, he has a manager also that you said is out in California?
KJ: I Yeah Phaedra. She?s going to be coming here. I
CW: And what is her name?

KJ: last name.

CW: Do you know how to spell her first name?

KJ: I?ll give that to you.

CW: Okay.

KJ: First name 

CW: Okay.

KJ: And then last name 

CW: I?m sorry can you start over again.

KJ: 

CW: Okay.

KJ: 

CW: K-Ellis-Lamkins.

KJ: Yeah.

CW: Okay and do you have her phone number?
KJ: 

CW: Okay is that her cell I assume?

KJ: Yeah.

CW: And she?s been out in California?
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KJ: Yeah.

CW: Do you know} for how long or does she usually live out there?
KJ: She lives out there?

DM: Chris I?m sorry to interrupt you, what?s his date of birth?
KJ: 

DM: Thank you.

CW: 

KJ: Well he's 57 years old so what is that.

CW: Dewitt.

?57, 57?

CW: Well he?s 57 years old so we aren?t sure.

DM: -is his date of birth?~

KJ: Yep.

CW: And he's 57. Yeah so he was born in 1958.

KJ: Okay.

CW: Um so you had said um other than you um anyone else that's frequently here at the
building? 

KJ: Other than the cook, Ray and Meron is his recent assistant.
CW: And Meron was she the one in the white sweatshirt?

KJ: Yeah.

CW: Okay so um assistant is Meron. How do you spell her name?
KJ: 

Okay and she's at the hall right now.

KJ: Yeah.

CW: And then he has a cook that?s here also?

KJ: That comes in just to cook and he?s out, that?s ah Ray.

CW: Do you have his last name?

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KJ: could get to my phone, it?s just..for some reason i just don?t think i have it.

CW: A phone number even, we would just want to follow up with him, would he have
come here for breakfast this morningdidn't come, he didn't do dinner last ah'no um maybe he did do dinner last night,
he wasn?t here this morning though.

CW: Okay.

KJ: Ray Roberts,?

CW: Okay and so other than the cook are there any cleaning people that would come?
KJ: Yeah but they usually come when Meron is here.

CW: Okay so Meron would be the person to talk to about anybody that?s here or not.

KJ: Yeah.

CW: ..she?s kind of planned and scheduled everything?

KJ: Yeah.

CW: Okay um and you had said um, I guess we can..we can back up and um I know that
you've kind of given a health, health history to Dr. Quinn, could you kind of just give me a

brief 

KJ: Um I don?t know his total health, i mean ljust figured out after we was flying back
from Atlanta that he passed out, unconscious and it scared me so..

CW: When was this?
KJ: I ..this was last Thursday.
CW: Okay so that would have been April um, we?ll figure that out later, okay so last

Thursday, April, you?re flying back from Atlanta and he has a, he has his own plane? Was


KJ: Yeah we had a jet, myself, him and Judith Hill was on that flight.
CW: And who is Judith Hill?

KJ: She?s a singer.

CW: Okay.

KJ: A artist.

CW: Okay.
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KJ: But i was sleeping, she came to me and said something?s wrong with Prince, I went
back there, he was unconscious and was trying to you know, wake him up, he wouldn't
wake up, I told him land the plane and then we went to the hospital.

Okay.

KJ: ..and um they, I think they gave him something to bring him out of the co..or whatever
he was, this unconsciousness and they said they, I think he was..he might have been on
some kind of pain pill because they had to take him out of it, and when they was asking
questions, he said that he only took one or two you know, he admitted that he had took
something but it was like one or two, two pills and so when i looked and tried to find the pills,
I looked in his bag and I think it was a, I found a Ny..Nyoxen? No, i don't know the name of
it, but it would be on the record at the hospital.

CW: And what hospital was that?

KJ: it was in Moline, Illinois. i can?t remember the name of the hospital.

CW: Okay, I heard you giving that to the Medical Examiner, okay.

KJ: Yeah.

CW: But he had Nyoxen or something like that in his, was it a prescription to him or was
just.

KJ: That's what i don?t know.
CW: Okay.
KJ: Yeah.

CW: Um anything else that you know of with him with prescription medications?

KJ: No.

CW: Okay, so he had a doctor that was here this morning in the blue coat, who was that
guy?

KJ: That?s doctor, that?s my doctor, Schulenberg that i had him see because i was
concerned about his health.

CW: After this incident with him..
KJ: Yeah.

CW: ..being unconscious.

KJ: Yeah.

CW: Okay.

KJ: So I was like you need to see a doctor to see what's going on with you because he
kept saying he was dehydrated, tingling in his arms and you know, I?m just like well let?s you

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know, go to my doctor to check and see what?s going on with you. So he agreed to that
which I was like okay cool.

CW: And what is your doctors? name?

KJ: Doctor Mike Schulenberg.

CW: Schulenberg?

KJ: Yeah, l?m not sure exactly how to spell it.

CW: is he one of the guys that went up to the Chan office then to get interviewed?
KJ: Yeah he might have, might have went up there. 
CW: Do you have his phone number?

KJ: if i could get to my phone?

CW: ?okay so after you guys came back um this was the first time you?ve ever
noticed anything with him? Okay.

KJ: i mean the only time was just, he said he was just dehydrated so I took him to the
emergency room, this was like a year, no, the week before, he said he was dehydrated so i
took him to my..my doctor again and we just got fluids and then he said he was fine but um I
think it was a year before there was the same thing and he said he was really dehydrated
um so i didn?t even think nothing about..of it, took him to the, i took him to the emergency
room at 212 and they you know, gave him fluids and then you know he said he was fine, I
just bring him back, I drop him off.

CW: _Um is..you?re in to health and fitness i mean, and you?ve known him for a long time.
JK: Uh-huh.
CW: ..has he um deteriorated as far as.

KJ: I He had, he had been looking just a little frail, but I just you know.

CW: Okay.
KJ: ..he just always kind of goes up and down so I didn?t you know, but he ate pretty
healthy.

CW: Okay that was my next question.

KJ: Yeah, he ate pretty healthy, he?s a vegetarian, the only thing he would eat sometimes
fish, sometimes eggs.

CW: Does he drink a lot of water?

KJ: He drinks a lot of water. Every once in a while he?d have some alcohol, you know,
some wine or.. but I?ve just never known him to be like crazy over drinker, it?s all about you
know, it?s all about wor .

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CW: Okay.

KJ: He?s really, he's always been private so I mean even from me he would keep me at a
distance so i was you know, respected that, respected his privacy.

CW: Okay um so he would..does he typically eat three meals a day or..

KJ: Usually his assistant would bring him lunch and then he would eat dinner..
CW: Okay.

KJ: ..as far as I know.

CW: 80 it?s not um uncommon for I mean, if there?s no cook here, he wouldn?t typically eat
breakfast, nobody would have come in here this morning.

KJ: No.

CW: Okay.

KJ: Never, usually never.

CW: Okay, not a breakfast eater.
KJ: No.

CW: Okay um and has he, you said that he had um been dehydrated, tingling in his arms,
anything else you can remember him complaining of? Any problems sleeping or anything?

KJ: He?s just always been a night guy.

CW: Yeah.

KJ: ..so I, I didn?t really pay attention to it, when I get you know, texts or emails at two or
.three in the morning, he?s always been that way, I mean even you know, after party we'd
stay up all night, he?d sleep during the day and his day starts at two, three o?clock you know..
CW: Yep.

KJ: ..so that wasjust kind of normal.

CW: Right, um okay so you had um, last Thursday.

KJ: Uh?huh.

CW: ..so today is Thursday, so a week ago was when you had the plane urn where you
had the emergency landing.

KJ: Emergency landing, yep.

CW: ..how long did he stay in the hospital for?

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KJ: He stayed there until eight or nine o?clock because we had to..we couldn?t get
anotherjet, so about nine, nine o?clock we left out of there to catch, catch a jet home and
then they left, i didn't see him um they left in one car and I went in another can.

CW: Okay.

KJ: ..because he was just going straight home.

CW: Okay is Judith a girlfriend or..

KJ: No she?s just an artist of his.

CW: Okay.

KJ: A singer.

CW: Okay um and so you guys kind of parted that night.

KJ: Yep.

CW: ..and then Friday, did you..do you see him every day usually?

KJ: No..
CW: Okay.
KJ: ..it?s only if there?s something that needs to be done, you know  just..only if I needed

to see him for something. But Friday we ended up having..no, was it Friday or Saturday? It
was Saturday. I seen him again Saturday because we had a party here, a dance party
because he wanted to let everybody know that he was okay.

CW: Okay so how many people were here then?

KJ: I think it was about 250, 300 people.

CW: Okay ah and so was he okay that night?

KJ: Yeah he seemed fine to me.

CW: Okay and socializing and doing everything that he typically does?

KJ: Uh-hum.

CW: Okay and then Sunday.

KJ: I don't usually see him on Sunday?s.
CW: Okay.
KJ: Um..

CW: Monday, do you remember?

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KJ: Monday, don't remember seeing him. I think the next time I seen him was
Wed..what's today?

CW: Today's Thursday, yesterday was.

KJ: Tuesday.

CW: Okay, Tuesday you saw him.

KJ: Yeah cause he wanted to talk to..he wanted to have ah just a little meeting with Larry
Graham. 80 me, Larry Graham and Meron came here and he was just talking about you
know, how he had to cancel these next few shows cause we had talked about him taking a
rest you know, you need to rest because afterthat episode last week, why don't you take
some time off. 

CW: Did he perform on Saturday night?

KJ: No.

CW: Is that unusual for himwas just a dance party, it wasn't.

CW: Oh, okay.

KJ: ..yeah. Everybody and their mama?s just like blowing me up.

CW: Do they, everybody knows about it already?

KJ: I think so.
CW: Okay.
KJ: I don't know how.

CW: Well we are doing everything we can to keep this as private as possible.
KJ: How would, who would say something?

CW: Um it unfortunately any..you know it can be one person and..l don?t know. Um I?m not
sure but.

KJ: Right.

CW: ..um okay so Tuesday you saw him, you had a meeting here with Larry Graham and
his assistant.

KJ: Yep.

CW: And he wanted to cancel some shows.
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KJ: He had canceled some shows.

CW: Or he had canceled them.

KJ: Because he was going to have a show Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

CW: Next week?

KJ: ..and this week.

CW: Oh.

KJ: But he had decided to cancel them because of you know, what happened in Atlanta.
CW: Okay.

KJ: ..he needed to take a break.

CW: Okay so he was just here by himself recuperating.

KJ: Uh-huh.

CW: Okay did he have, have a regular doctor?

KJ: Not that I know of.

CW: All right but he was addicted to pain medications?

KJ: He never told me that but that?s what I'm finding out.

CW: Something?s going on that you don?t know.

KJ: Yeah, he?s, he never admitted, I mean and ljust figured that kind of out after that
Friday or that time we had to land the plane that this is what..it started to all making sense
though just his behavior sometimes and change of mood and I?m like oh this is what, I think
this is what?s going on, that?s why I took the initiative and said let?s go to my doctor because
you haven't been to the doctor, let's check it all out.

CW: Okay who is Andrew and how does Andrew come into this.

KJ: Andrew was from the company that we had called to um come out here and try to
help him get you know, possibly you know, talk these
pain pills.

CW: Okay so you guys, was this during the meeting with Larry.

KJ: No this was like just yesterday we were just trying to reach out because Prince said
he wanted to talk to somebody, so just yesterday we just reached out think the name is,

this guy in San Francisco, How..Howard, I?m trying to find out.

CW: He's the doctor in San Francisco?

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KJ: Yeah that we were just reaching out to. And so he sent his son who's Andrew cause
he couldn?t make it, Andrew Kornfeld, Recovery Without Walls is the name of the
company.

CW: l?m sorry, l..what?s his last name?

KJ: Kornfeld, 

CW: And he, and it's from Recovery.

KJ: Without Walls.

CW: ..Without Walls.

KJ: 80.

CW: Okay so you guys Tuesday had a meeting, and who is Larry?

KJ: Larry Graham is just another artist.

CW: Okay.

KJ: ..bass player.

CW: Artist, bass player..

KJ: ..friend, yeah.

CW: 80 the three of them had a meeting but you weren?t there or you were there on
Tuesday? -

KJ: Yes.

CW: The four of you?

KJ: Yep.

CW: Prince, you, Larry Graham.
KJ: And Meron.

CW: And Meron. Um what?s Meron's last name? That?s okay, you know what, l?ll get it
later from my partner.

KJ: Yeah it?s just like.
CW: Don?t worry about it. 80 um the four of you kind of confronted Prince and.
KJ: No we didn?t confront him at all..

CW: Oh.

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KJ: ..he was just it was just a talk, he was just talking about how he you know um, he
was telling Larry how we didn't want him to do these shows this week because he was not
feeling well..

CW: Right.

KJ: ..so that was just you know, the conversation and um it was really short and then I
left, think Meron left, Larry left and scheduled for him to go to the doctor the next day,
that was Thursday.

CW: So today is Thursday.

KJ: Or Wednesday, yes.

CW: Wednesday okay um so you had scheduled him with your doctor?

KJ: Yeah.

CW: Okay so did he go yesterday?

KJ: Yeah.

CW: Okay so Wednesday, how did the day turn out or, or how did the day start? What
time did you have contact with him..

KJ: Um..

- CW: ..wait, wait let?s back up, I?m sorry, Tuesday.

KJ: Yep.

CW: ..so you guys had a meeting here about what time?
KJ: Ah eight, eight thirty.

CW: At night?

KJ: Yeah.

CW: Okay and then you left and um when was the next time that you saw him, was
Wednesday then?

KJ: Yep.

CW: The plan was Wednesday.
KJ: Go to the doctor.

CW: ..go to the doctor.

KJ: Five o'clock, so we left here about a quarter to five, just me and him, drove him over
to see my doctor um they took blood, checked all his vitals.

CW: Where is that clinic at?
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KJ: North Memorial on Hwy 7.

CW: Okay, the flashing the light there..your phone.

KJ: There?s no flash.

CW: Oh, lthought that it was..the light was.

KJ: The lights probably going out.

CW: ..the light bulb there is..okay, um so he agreed to go to the doctor..
KJ: Yep.

cw: ..they took blood.

KJ: Uh-hum.

CW: ..um did they find anything or anything going.

KJ: I think that the doctorjust, we hadn?t got the results back, he was just bringing them
back to? me today.

CW: Okay.

KJ: And then he agreed to pee in a cup..

CW: Okay.

KJ: ..so think the doctor said that there was evidence that he was on something, so.
CW: The doctor told you that there was evidence.

KJ: Yeah.

CW: ..that he was on something?

KJ: Yep.

CW: Okay.

KJ: And he, he had said, he had told the doctor that he was on Tylenol and he didn?t
want to say what it was, the doctor was like what kind, he?s like I?m not sure, and so the
doctor knew, at..at that point we knew it was something and then you know, he had asked
the doctor can we you know, can we take blood and can we do pee in a cup and he?s like
yep, did that and.

CW: Okay, so yesterday um you didn't see him until about a quarter to five.

KJ: Uh-hum.

.CW: ..you came here and picked him up, you both drove down to North Memorial.

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KJ: Uh-hum.

CW: ..and you went and saw your doctor..

KJ: thhum.

CW: ..um and then you drOpped him off?

KJ: Yeah we went, first we went to Walgreens to grab some um prescribed ah medicine
to try and help him come..cause he was having the jitters and he's like he needed something
to help him come down off the, off the ah the Tylenol or whatever.

CW: Okay so you went to Walgreens before you went to North Memorial?

KJ: No after, this was after.

CW: Okay, okay so the doctor, your doctor gave him a prescription.

KJ: Uh-huh.

CW: Do you remember what that was for?

KJ: To help him calm his nerves, his jitters and whatever.

CW: Okay.

KJ: I don?t remember the name of it. We picked that up, came and then he took one.
CW: Where did you go to Walgreensyou remember what time that was about?

KJ: it had to have been seven or seven fifteen.

CW: What time was your appointment with your doctor at?

KJ: Five.

CW: Okay so, so the doctor um at the clinic um had taken his blood and a urine and
anything else that happened at that time?

KJ: Nope.

CW: Tried to just explain how he wasn?t feeling good, he was dehydrated, stuff like that,
so they just took a couple of those.

KJ: Uh-huh.

CW: the doctor gave him a prescription for something just to calm him down for his
jitters, you guys left the hospital, you stopped at the Walgreens at 101 and 7 and picked up
the prescription and he..and Prince took one pill?

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KJ: Yeah.

CW: Okay and.

KJ: He just like, he?s just..this is not helping.
CW: Okay.

KJ: ..and he, he didn?t take them.

CW: Okay where do you think those pills would be now?

KJ: I think I might have threw them away, cause I was like if he aint going to take them,
I?m throwing them away. I'll check and see.

CW: Okay.

KJ: I might even just have them at home, l?m not sure.

CW: Okay so urn but you don?t remember what they were?

KJ: No.

CW: It was only one prescription?

KJ: No there was..there was three of them, cause I went there to get one, he didn't..that
didn?t feel like it was working and he gave us two more totry for him and he took one, and he
said this is not working, its not helping me.

CW: And do you remember, you don?t remember what those were?

KJ: No the doctor would have those.

CW: Okay um and you think those might be at your house? We would have to go get
them if you think that they?re there.

KJ: Yeah I think I kept them.

CW: Okay um all right, so then after Walgreens, then where did you guys go?

KJ: Brung him here and dropped him off.

CW: Okay so then you guys got here, I think you said you dropped him off at what time?
KJ: It was like eight o?clock, a quarter to, something like that.

CW: Okay, okay and he just wanted to be alone and that was the last of it? Okay, did you
see what he was wearing when, do you remember what he was wearing?

KJ: He just had black on, black pants, same thing he has on new, black shirt.
CW: 80 what he's wearing now is what he was wearing yesterday?

KJ: Yeah.
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CW: And then you said.
KJ: His jacket was upstairs.

CW: ..the jacket and the gloves that were up in the hallway, okay. And is it typical for him
to use the elevator rather than the stairs? 

KJ: Yeah, I think because of his hip being bad, he had surgery on it years ago.

CW: On..surgery on?

KJ: His left hip I think it was. Let me answer this call.

CW: Okay.

KJ: Yes ma?am. Keep it together, yep, yeah I know, me too, this is ridiculous right now, I
know, yeah, keep it together, I don?t know, I don?t know what to do either, it?s just crazy now,
We got to keep it together somehow. I don?t, I don't know. Yeah I'm talking to a Detective
right now, she?s just asking me questions. Just about you know, what..where..where we
were, when the last time I seen him, taking him to the doctor and stuff like that. Yeah, l..l
think she's at city hall or something they got her. .just her and Josh and Hannah, theyjust
wanted to get people out of the building. Okay bye.

CW: His sister?

KJ: That was Phaedra.

CW: Oh okay.

KJ: She's going to try and come here sometime tonight.

CW: Okay, um so ah ljust want to recap um everything had seemed to be fine um you
said about a week ago um he was complaining about being dehydrated, you took him to 212
Medical Center to the ER, they gave him fluids,

KJ: That was, that was over a year ago.

CW: Oh a year ago.

KJ: I did that one, but took him to the North Memorial, I had my doctor come here,
checked him out and you know he said he wanted to get some fluids so we drove over to
North Memorial and gave him fluids.

CW: So the doctor came here yesterday first?

KJ: No that was um a week before.

CW: Okay, I'm sorry, I missed this part about this.

KJ: Sorry.

CW: Okay so a week ago, a year ago you brought him to 212.

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KJ: Yeah.
CW: Okay.
KJ: I think it was even over a year but.

CW: Okay and then last week you contacted your doctor, was this before or after the
plane?

KJ: This is before.

CW: Okay urn do you remember what day that was at all? He left on Thursday or no, you
were coming back from Atlanta on Thursday.

I KJ: He was, I can?t remember the date.
CW: Okay.

KJ: Meron was with us, we went to take him to get fluids and l, I left to go teach class, I
left, left him there. What?s that?

CW: it?s my (inaudible)
KJ: Oh it?s an alarm going off.

CW: Um, okay so last week one day um before you guys want to Atlanta, when did you go
to Atlanta if you came back Thursday?

KJ: We went on Thursday as well.

CW: Oh it was just a day trip?

KJ: Day trip.

CW: For music or..

KJ: For a concert.

CW: Okay.

KJ: He stated it was the best concert he ever did, it was just the best.

CW: 80 l?m probably wrong on my um, when you?re saying he left at..so last Thursday he
had a concert.

KJ: In Atlanta.
CW: concert in Atlanta, it didn't get over l?m assuming until late then?
KJ: It got over at eleven thirty or so, we flew back about one, one AM.

CW: Okay so I?m confused, so when you say he got out at nine, it?s nine the next
morning.

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KJ: Yes.

CW: ..Friday.
KJ: Yes.
CW: Okay.

KJ: Yes, yeah sorry.
CW: was confused with that okay.

KJ: Hello. Hi. Talk to who? I?m talking to the Detective. Just telling the events, just
that?s all. Yeah, I don?t knowjust tell them what..tel  them what it is you need to tell
them, tell the truth. Yeah she's going to be..Phaedra?s going to be coming here at some
point. Yeah. Nah I don?t what..what do they, what?s the. yeah cause that?s what we figured
out when he um come on the plane when he you know, took the pills and i had to take him
out, that?s all we know is was he was taking something, so you know, it could have been..l
don?t know how long it could have been he?s been taking them you know. That?s why we
called Andrew and those guys to see if he would you know, he said he wanted to talk to
somebody so that's why we bring them guys here Andrew, and talk to his dad Howard, that's
why we brung him here this morning in hOpe that he would you know, that they can help him.
Yeah, yeah absolutely. Yeah for sure. Yep. Yeah I?m not sure what we do. I?ll talk to the
Detective once we?re done and see what's next. Okay me finish with her and then
I?ll call you back. 

CW: Everyone wants to talk to you.

KJ: i don?t know.

CW: Um okay so ah yesterday you guys.
KJ: Uh-huh.

CW: ..was Wednesday um Prince admitted to you that he had a problem, that he wanted
to try to reach out and get some help.

KJ: Yeah.

CW: Okay, any idea how long this has been going on? No idea?

KJ: No.
CW: Okay.
KJ: I mean that..that?s why I was trying to reach back to people when no one was just

you know, everyone's scared to say something I guess, I don't know.
CW: All right.
KJ: That?s what pisses me off cause it's like man, how did he hide this so well?

CW: He?s very private you said?

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KJ: Very private.

CW: Okay. well never ah met him or been here i guess but I?ve heard that from my
other partners with just dealing with security and stuff here so um would he have kept
anything up in his room? Like which room would he have kept his things in?

KJ: That?s what I don?t know.

CW: Okay so none of you guys, he doesn?t ask for you guys to get him anything or fill
prescriptions or go and get anything. he doesn?t have a doctor so any prescription he?s
getting is from somewhere else? 

KJ: Yeah he's never asked me.

CW: Okay so he, has he um okay, I?ll get to that question in a second then 80..

KJ: Yeah.

..um all right so my timeline here is Thursday was the Atlanta concert um you guys
ah got here, flew back here about nine ah Friday morning.

KJ: Yep.

CW: ?okay'um and then you had a meeting on Tuesday with Larry and you guys about
that there's something going on, he needs to cancel these concerts that he had Monday,
Wednesday and Friday this week, Saturday he had a dance party, everything was fine, he:
didn?t perform but he was complaining about beingdehydrated.

KJ: Uh?hum.

CW: ..and then um during that meeting with Larry and his assistant and you, was that
when you guys decided to reach out to California?

KJ: No, it was just to get him, have him to go to the doctor and just do a physical.

CW: That was what you guys wanted, to get a physical done, was what you kind of had
met with him.

KJ: Yeah.
CW: Um and do you have Larry's information?

KJ: Larry Graham?

CW: Yeah.
KJ: 
CW: Okay.

KJ: 

CW: And does Larry, has he been notified?

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KJ: Yeah.

CW: Okay so he would maybe expect a call from us in the future if we had any questions.
When you say he was a musician, bass player.

KJ: Bass player yep.

CW: ..but they were kind of tight then?

KJ: Yeah they were both Jehovah Witness 30..

CW: Okay.

KJ: ..church together, he would come and do concerts here sometime.

CW: Okay. So who would you say would be Prince?s maybe um group, the closest people
that would know him other than you and his assistant?

KJ: Meron and Phaedra, his sister, Larry urn that?s pretty much it in his circle lately.
CW: Okay so the five of you are pretty much the circle of everybody that would know
what's going on with him? Okay um and so you guys reached out to Andrew and his dad to
come here and when did Andrew fly in?

KJ: This morningthe airport or..

KJ: No he..we met him at the hotel.

CW: Okay so he hadn?t even, Andrew had never even met Prince yet? Okay and had he
ever been here before?

KJ: No.

CW: This was a first meeting then. Okay, and um the other person that was with Meron,
there Was another man that was here um you guys were talking when we were on the stairs.

KJ: That was Josh and Hannah, they had just came in.

CW: Josh?

KJ: Yep.

CW: And who is Josh?

KJ: Josh is a producer, he was in um the band for and Hannah is a drummer,
she was in the band. They would be, well i guess they would be other ones that would kind
of be in the circle as well.

CW: Okay and they?re up in Chan 30..

KJ: They live here in Chan as well.

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CW: Okay I?m assuming though they?re all..my partners are all talking to them then..

KJ: Yeah. .

CW: so you dropped him off at a quarter to eight um he wasn?t feeling good, the pills
that..that your doctor gave him, nothing worked.

KJ: Uh~huh.

CW: ..said good night, nothing unusual about that?
KJ: Yep.

UM: (lnaudiblewrap it up here, okay.

KJ: Yeah.

CW: We might have to talk to you again obviously Kirk, um dropped him off here and then
this morning when did you try and get a hold of him? Or you..you met with Andrew or what
was the plan for today?

KJ: Yeah we was just meeting with Andrew just you know, to see what you know, what
they could talk to him about and then give him a how they can..oause he wanted someone to
come to the studio, he didn?t want to go outside the studio just for privacy reasons, Andrew
was going to come in the place of his dad, his dad was going to come tomorrow.

CW: Okay.

KJ: ..and just talk can help and you know the process of what
we can use to you know, bring him down off the opiates I guess they're called, um in the
hope that you know, Prince would allow it to happen cause he said he wanted..he wanted
something so.

CW: Okay so um you couldn't get a hold of him this morning?

KJ: I tried to call and it was just something didn't feel right.
CW: Okay.
KJ: ..so I tried to call his room, nothing, called the kitchen, nothing, those are the only two

numbers you..you usually can get him, he don?t have no cell phone or nothing or on the
computer.

CW: He talks to you on the computer..
KJ: Yes.

CW: ..Iike texting?

KJ: Like email.

CW: An email?
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KJ: Yeah.
CW: Okay and how is the security here? You run that security system?

KJ: It?s pre..there?s no security system, it?s just doors are locked or unlocked, that?s all.
There?s no cameras or no alarms on.

CW: There's no cameras here?

KJ: He?s very self?conscious of that for whatever reason. I know at one point there was,
but there is none.

CW: Okay and no alarm system?

KJ: Turned that off too.

CW: And so what..so the gate is the only way to control people coming in and out?
KJ: The gate and the doors being locked.

CW: Is there a way to track if there's anybody coming in and out of the gate? No way to
track that system? Okay so it?sjust a remote.

KJ: Yeah.

CW: ?kind of like a garage door opener?

KJ: Yeah.

CW: That?s it? Okay so when did he take out his surveillance and everything?
KJ: I don?t know, I wasn?t here when it happened.

CW: 80 it was before 2009?

KJ: Yeah.

CW: Or whatever, I think that?s what you said it was.

KJ: Yep.

CW: Okay um is there anything..l..l know that they're wanting to maybe talk and speed
this up so I probably will have to talk to you again Kirk.

KJ: Okay.

CW: Um is there anything that I didn?t ask you that you think that we should know right
away pertaining to everything?

KJ: Not that I can think of.

CW: Okay. Urn is everything you?ve told me a true statement?

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KJ: Yes.

CW: Have I made any threats or promises for you to talk to me?
KJ: No.

CW: have to ask that 

KJ: Okay.

CW: Um okay we will end this statement then at 1236 on 4/21/2016.

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CN: Detective Chris Nelson. #839 HW: Hannah Welton,??
va: Joshua Walton.?

CN: Okay, this in reference to 16012559. Ah, i?m taking a recorded statement from
Hannah Walton and ah, JoshUa Welton, ah, married, ah, both played in the band.
Date of birth for Hannah is? ah, for Joshua is Um, the questions are
in response from Deputy, or Detective Chris Nelson, badge 839. The statements
being taken at the Chanhassen City Hall in the city of Chanhassen, Minnesota on
4l21 of 2016 at approximately 11:45am. No one other is a witness to this and again,
this is reference to ICR 16012559. Okay, um, Josh, why don't you just go ahead and
start from the beginning and tell me like, your past history, like what you were telling
me before that you were in his band and produced a 

JW: Yeah, 

oN:_ of albums with him. 

My ah, wife was discovered on You Tube.

ON: Okay.

JW: Ah, by Prince and ah, Hannah was, and ah, i basically came with the package. 80, I
he's very respectful of marriage and i think that ah, that?s how him and i have kicked
it off.

CN: Okay.

JW: Because ah, our moral beliefs in Jesus and our moral beliefs in marriage and core

- valbes were very similar and so for ah, about 9 months that's pretty much what I had
with him. Um, before I did anything with him it was just a relationship.

What year did this all take place?

HW: 2012.

JW: 2012.?

CN: ?12 okay.

JW: And so um, as the years um, progressed, within that year, ah, I did some

choreography for him and then I started to produce some songs, just re?mixeshere
and there and slowly but surely urn, you know, I was, I did a record on, with him and
it was a big deal because I guess he never did anything Iike that before um, with

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anybody. So, um, not only do we have like a personalrelationship then we started to
develop a business relationship.

Sure.

And then we did another album together. we?ve also just represented him in
meetings and Hannah and we met with a couple different people and just, it's
family more than anything. it?s weird to talk about it this 

Yeah.?

But it?s just Very truthful in a sense that it?s just been like family. You know, you know,
and before the camera and not, you know, we just kinda knit together in a way that
um, families would.

Yeah.-

You know, 

Okay, and "what brought you out here today, to Paisley Park?

Ah, Meron called us.

Okay. 

um, it's basically-Kirk, Moron, Hannah, and I that um, have been arOund
as of late.

. Okay.

Um, you know, weju?st saw him Monday. We went out Monday to the movies. 

Uh-huh.

And um,- went out to eat and watched a jazz performance at the Dakota and ah, you
know. 

That?s the last time we saw him.

That's the last time we saw him and I emailed 
VVaslasth?ondaythe?18m?

Yeah. I

Yeah.

Okay, and how, how was he? Did he say anything about the way he was feeling or
anything?

Not at all.

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JW:

No, his, his, you know how you can, you know family, you can always tell if
somebody?s vibrant or you can always tell if somebody?s you know, low. You know, I
feel like he was between low and in the middle. You know, just very, just, just cruising
I would say. You know, you just felt like he was cruising and, you know, when you're
a worldwide icon you never know what somebody?s going through unless they tell
you.

CN: Yup.

JW: You know, and so, ah, you know, or God does, you know so for me, ljust, you know,
we're always there in those times just to be a light, you know. Not even trying to do or
get anything. it's just like, or get information from him as to how he?s feeling. 

. CN: Yeah.

JW: Wejust wanna have a good time with him.

CN: Sure.

JW: So, I mean, that's as much as we wanted to do on Monday. Um, and went, you know,
went to the movie and, I mean, he was walkin and talkin.

HW: Uh?huh.

JW: And, you know, we were jokin cause we went to the, we went out to Dakota first.
Then we went to the Beach Club to eat some food and kick it and then we went to
the movie. . 

CN: Okay.

JW: And, you know, that's just like a normal night for us. I mean, last month we went out
to the Chanhassen, wejust always, itjust, you know how it is.

ON: Yeah.

JW: You know, you just kick it back and relax. 80, um, like said, you know, it?s no
different from when l?ve seen him years in the few years like.

. HW: in the past.

JW: So, it's not like I, you 

CN: Yeah.

JW: All of a sudden just saw.

CN: Something.

JW: Some fatal crazy, you know what i mean?

HW: Yeah.

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Yeah. Did he ever mention any, if he had any issues with any kind of drugs or
anything like that?

No.

Never.

He?s never told us anything like that.

Nothing?

No, I 

You've never seen anything like that?

No, 

Uh-uh.

We've never, that?s the thing about it, it?s because, i mean, when it came to, when I
mentioned in the beginning our core values, like that?s something that we, you know,
agreed on. We weren?t gonna be a part of any type of, you know, drunkenness or


Drugs environment.

Kind of environment because we don?t, we don't particularly like things like that or, or
want to be around things like that and so he didn?t either and so that?s why i was so
obvious that, you know, it was just that we were supposed to connect. 80, um, no, i
mean, he, that was something he prohibited.

Yeah.

You know what I mean, so it?s nothing that we were around.

Okay, what, is, does he have any other hardships in his life that you know of or
anything like that? Anything you can think of?

Anything else out of public knowledge um, I mean, we've, things that are just, that
might not have to do with health or, you know things like that. I mean, 

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, like i said, we've known him foryears so we?ve had many


About the business and stuff.
You know, about business and, you know, just things like that.
Nothing personal 

Well, yeah, nothing, nothing health wise.

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Detrimental or anything.

Yeah, nothing like that. You know we?ve had plenty of conversations, but I, that's,
nothing that has to do with this, you know.

Okay.
Yeah.

And last time you seen him was on Monday and then you, it?s not like you call and
talk to him every day. it?s 

Well, we email practically almost every day, you know what i mean? We, and, and,
and if we see each other, you know, it's because of that, you know. As of lately
because of his touring, you know, when he?s in town is when we talk more often, but
you know, i haven?t. because I mix his stuff too, cause I?ve also mixed the record so
I've been mixing all the shows. 

Okay.

That come in and so when he did the show in, you know Toronto and Montreal and
Arms, or notAmsterdam, those different shows, you know, I get the files
and I mix them all.

But you wouldn?t go with him to those shows?

No, we went to Toronto with him.

Toronto.

We flew with him um, to Toronto which is the second to last show he did.

Yup.

And um, even there, I mean, we were with him literally, practically the whole day
except for the first show.

Yeah.

We got up in the morning, we flew with him there, and then that's when we, he did 
the first show, we came to the second show.

Yeah.
Okay.

We went to the, ah we were there with the a, the, the second show, we went to the
after party. Then we, we flew home with him.

Okay.

So, we were with him throughout the whole entire time and um, it?s like a brother.

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HW:

(inaudible) Yeah.

JW: Just laughing, having a good time. We even talked about the Atlanta show.

CN: Okay.

JW: On the jet like, you know, as far as, you know getting to somemore urban areas and
things like that and um, just, just diversify where he went.

CN: Sure.

JW: You know, 

CN: And then something, wh, do you know anything about this emergency landing that
they had to do?

Hwi All we (lnaudible)

JW: No, we actually found 

CN: Okay.

JW: Via, a friend called us from Atlanta.

HW: Yeah.

JW: 'Um, but then he was already back in town by the time we heard about it.

HW: And heard it from him.

JW: You know what l'm saying? Yeah.

CN: And do you know about that?

JW: No, I mean, as much as, as much as we know is ah, just on the plane Kirk had made
the call.

CN: Okay.

JW: You know, Kirk had told us.

HW: To land it.

JW: Yeah, to land it because he wasn't himself and he wasn?t responsive.

CN: Okay.

JW: And so when they um, when they landed in 

HW: Yeah.

JW: I believe it was.

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Moline?

Illinois.

Yeah. Moline, Illinois, um, i guess they whatever you called it got him for the We
Yup.

Or you 

The paramedics.

Yeah, the paramedics came and got him and he snapped back into place and then
within that, cause when you fly a jet you have to, like if you land I think you have to
give them 12 hours. 

The crew. . 

The crew, 12 hours before you fly again so they had to find another plane to get back
cause he wanted to get back home.

Okay, and when he flies, is that his personal jet or is that. 
No, we go through Signature.

Oh, Signature? Okay, up in Eden Prairie?

Yeah. Or, is? it Eden Prairie?



It's closer to the Delta.

it's closer to Blooming, I think it might be in Bloomington or something?
Yeah.

It?s over by the airport there's a Signature, 

Yeah.

Yeah, okay.

That?s where he normally flies.

And then you guys obviously get the call this morning. What does Kirk tell you this
morning?

Meron. Meron actually called.

Or Meron.

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Yeah.
I apologize.

And she was hysterical so we couldn?t really understand exc, she actually understood
more than I could.

Yeah. 

All we could hear was, "Come to Paisley.?

Yeah. .

Then Kirk just text me come to Paisley. Like I said, its four of us here.

Yeah. 

You know, and um, you know, we know he has Tyka but we hardly ever have seen
her in the last few years, but she, she ah, we saw her last couple times as far as
family goes 

At Paisley.

As far 

Who?s Tyke?

His sister.

His sister.

Sister, okay.

Yeah, and so we've, you know, as in the last, you know, four years Third Girl
was the band that he had where she was the drummer.

Okay.

And um, you know, um, we, we've spent a lot of time with them but then in the last
few months it's literallyjust been us four.

You four.

Um, that's been in the closest proximit. proximity of his dealings.

Sure.

And just seeing him and going out to the movies and that kind of vibe, you know.
Yup.

Um, so that?s pretty much been our dealings with him, 

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Him inviting us to the movies and stuff.

Yeah, yeah and it?s always been, you know, what he?s said, like, ?Hey, come out to
the movies,?

Right.

And like you know, like ?Hey, what are you guys doing tomorrow?? or that kind of
thing, you know.

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So you guys get over there this morning.
Yeah.

Who?s all there?

Um, Meron and Kirk

Well, the doc, a. doctor that I haven?t met yet. The gentleman I think you might've
already talked to.

Okay.

Mike.

Yup.

Andrew, which I never met yet. I guess he just came in.
Yeah.

Okay.

Ah, Kirk, Meron, a whole bunch of different paramedic people.
Okay.

Um, cops and

Yeah, it was just like the Sheriff, like the police.

The Sheriffs, the Detectives and yourself.

So when you, when you guys got there the cops and 

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It happened, well, by the time Meron decided to call us after she got a, you know,
mustered up 

Yeah.

ls when everybody was already there and so 

Yeah.

You know, when I saw, when i got there, you know, Kirk text me to come to Paisley
as well as Meron called us and I mean, if anything, like i said, the last time Prince
Went out was with me, Kirk, Hannah, and Meron.

Okay.

Yeah.

You know, and so it's 

To the best of your knowledge he?s not doing any drugs or drinking any alcohol or
anything like that?

I mean, we?ve seen alcohol.

Yeah.

Occasionally.

I mean in a sense 

Yeah.

But it?s not like, obsessive. Like we?ll, 

Like where he's a drunk or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like 

No, nothing like that.

No, he?s, I?ve never seen him like do drugs. I 

Never.

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JW:

The only thing I can ever recall is like if, if somebody took an Advil or something like
that but nothing 

HW: Yeah, nothing that would 

JW: Yeah.

HW: - Like addiction or, you know overdoing anything.

JW: Yeah, he?s never expressed anything like that to us. We?ve never seen him do
anything like that.

HW: Uh-uh.

JW: You know: 

ON: Did he ever talk about having pain anywhere in ?his body like his legs, a tingly feeling
or something like that 

HW: N, 

JW: Only thing l?ve ever seen him do in pain wise is like go like this with his, with his arm.
You know what I?m saying?

HW: Yeah, when we?re on the road and stuff.

JW: But 

ON: Yeah, 

JW: guitar player is like, you 

HW: Yeah.

JW: It?s just, it?s just like the territory, 

HW: Yeah, I mean, when you?re touring and traveling and performing for hours, multiple
shows, you know, we all have one of those.-

CN: Oh yeah, cause I?m sitting here and you went (inaudible)

HW: Yeah. I

JW: That?s, that?s the 

HW: Outside of that, no.

CN: Yeah, okay.

HW: There?s been nothing.

JW: 1, I don?t even rec, I don?t even remember him ever getting a cold, 

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HW:

No.

JW: There was one 

HW: 

JW: I remember him getting a' cold and his voice was sounding funny. I was like, ?Dude,
you sound crazy.? You know, and ah, that was a while ago.

HW: A long time ago, right? 

JW: Yeah. -

HW: That was, I remember because it was after we had gotten off of a tour and he says
that, you know, when your body is going and going and going and you finally have
time to rest is when, you 

JW: Yeah.

I JW: - Every now and then he may get a cold or something after a tour 

CN: Well, then you get run down after doing, you 

HW: Right.

ON: A 3, 4 hour Show.

JW: it's a lot. It?s a lot.

CN: it takes a lot out of you.

JW: it?s a lot.

HW: But yeah, I mean, he actually encouraged us to, you know, like change up our diet
and get healthy 

JW: Yeah, he?s, yeah, he?s a very 

HW: He?s 

JW: Health. -

HW: Yeah.

JW: You know, we 

HW: I mean, look at him.

JW: Yeah.

HW: You know, you can see that 

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CN: Yup.

HW: 

CN: Yeah, he?s not overweight by no means or anything like thatlate I feel like he was skinnier though. You know what I mean? And it just as far
as like, I don't know if he was, you know, i don?t think he like, does like working out or
anything like that but, you know, usually to me, I mean, he?s always looked the same.

CN: Yeah. -

You know, 

HW: Yeah.

JW: Yeah, man, it?s, it?s one of those things where it?s kind of like everything is happening
thisweek. You know what I?m saying? You know, we, we see him. You know, you
notice, like, his energy, but at the same time it?s 

HW: You don?t think anything of it.

JW: Yeah, you don't sit here and think 

CN: All right.

JW: Drinking 0r all that other stuff. You know what I mean? 80 for me it?s just kind of like,
I think overtime you just start to put the pieces together and

CN: Sure.

JW: But, 1 

HW: It?s hard to believe.

JW: Yeah, it's, 

HW: it doesn't seem real.

JW: it kind of feels sur, yeah surreal.

HW: Yeah.

CN: Yup.

JW: is the best word for it.

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CN:

Yeah, can?t, believe me, it took me by surprise when I got the call this morning


JW: Yeah, and that?s why it?s like we?re looking on Twitter and everybody?s calling us and
it?s like people are, I 

CN: 80 it?s already out?

JW: it?s such a huge, well, I guess the authorities said 

HW: We tried to make sure 

JW: They said something like there?s been a fatality at Paisley, but they?re not saying it?s
Prince.

. HW: But they're not saying it?s so now everyone?s freaking out.

JW: This is a big deal and so for us it?s kind of like, we're trying to think about who?s, like
who?s gonna protect his stuff. How does that happen?

HW: His legacy. I

JW: . His legacy.

CN: Yeah. 

Like, what are people gonna say? Paisley Park, i mean, we didn't live there, but we
practically did, you know what l'm saying, I mean there was times we got there, I got
there at 2pm and left at 8am.

HW: Yeah.

CN: Yup.

JW: You know what I mean? Like, there?s been times when we?ve spent hours working on
records and records and records just him and l, and, and then with the band.

HW: And then after that playing ping pong 

JW: Yeah, 

HW: Going to (inaudible)

.JW: Yeah, like, yeah, it?s just been, it?s just been our thing. To, to, to, to think that it?s, you
know, you just wanna like, how, what?s, what?s, like for me, anytime a tragedy
happens I often have a calmer, and I wanna figure out what we have to 

HW: Right.

JW: Cause often times you don't know what to do cause I?ve had, you know,
different moments when you panic 

ON: Yeah.

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JW:

That doesn?t get anything done so I?ve learned from those situations and just kind of
think like, what would he want?

HW: Right. That?s what l'm thinking.
JW: And still don't. It hasn?t really hit me because of the last time I saw him was at the
movie so it's 
HW: Uh-huh.
JW: You 
CN: Did anybody have a beef with him that was upset with him about anything?
JW: Ah. ..
HW: I don't knowknow, there's many people who you could Write down, but
that's just -
CN: It's the music business.
Yeah, it?s the music business.
HW: Yeah.
JW: I mean, it?s kind of like, people got beef with me, like why did he choose him as .
producer?
CN: Yeah.
JW: Why did he pick her to play the drums?
HW: Yeah.
CN: Play the drums.
JW: You know what I mean?
HW: Yeah.
JW: 80 it's like, as far as like, like, his inner circle, like I said, it?s, it?s 
HW: Very small.
JW: it's very, very, very tight.
CN: Okay.
JW: And so, people don?t know where he is unless we tell em. You see what I?m sayin?
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CN:

Yup.

JW: 80, for somebody to get to him and able, to be able to get at 

HW: I don't know, I 

JW: It would be 

HW: It?d be hard,l guess, but at the same time, you know, he lives at Paisley alone, 

JW: But, it, who knows that, like we would only know that, right?

HW: Unless he reaches out to people I'm saying. You know he could like, he (inaudible)

JW: Yeah, but that?s people like I said it?s very, like there's very few people in the last 4
years, right, the people that we?ve even met through him has been people he's
known for a long time.

CN: For a long time.

JW: 80 it's not like we?ve gotten new people, and the people who were quote unquote
new in the last 4 years um, you know, we, i mean, (inaudible)

ON: I mean, and what's Kurt?s, or I

JW: Kirk is the estate manager. He?s known him since Purple Rain days. -

HW: Yeah.

JW: He's, he?s been his drummer. He's been a producer.

HW: A dancer.

JW: A dancer. He?s kind of like, 

HW: And now he?s the estate manager.

JW: Like, kind of like (inaudible) He's done that times how ever many years.

CN: Okay, and does Kirk live at the Paisley Park?

HW: No.

JW: No, no.

CN: Okay. Where does he live?

JW: We all, we all live 

HW: He lives in Chanhassen.

JW: ln Chanhassen, yeah.

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CN:

All right.

JW: And we just work here. Like, we haven?t officially like, you know, made, changed our


HW: Right, we didn?t just move 

JW: And call it - I

HW: And then happen to work with him. We worked with him and then decided 

JW: Yeah.

HW: You know, while we?re working with 

JW: Yeah.

HW: Live here.

ON: Okay.

HW: And so that?s, you know, why 

CN: Where are you guys originally from?

HW: I'm originally from Louisville, Kentucky.

CN: Okay.

HW: But um, Chicago is where we met and were living and um, when we got married,
moved to Atlanta.

CN: Uh?huh.

HW: And then when he found me on You Tube and kind of called us to co, to meet

CN: To do (inaudible)

Um, we came from Atlanta to here.

JW: Yeah, I, yeah.

CN: Cause Prince doesn't own any other houses or live in any other houses here in
Chan. He just stays at Paisley Park, correct?

JW: No, he doesn't live in anywhere, of the other houses but he has property.

CN: Yeah.

JW: Yeah.

CN: 80, he has property he owns?

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HW:

Yeah.

CN: He tore down his old big mansion, right?

JVV: Yeah.

HVV: Yeah.

JW: Yeah, he?s got, yeah, yeah, 

HVY: Yeah.

JVV: Yeah.

CN: 

JW: 1 don?t know 

HVW ldo?tu

JW: Who would try to kill 

HVV: Yeah.

JW: Like, are you kidding me?

CN: Ah, the, the reason I say that is cause it's a non?witnessed death.

HVV: l?ght

CN: So, we don?t know what happened.

HW: You have to investigate everything, huh?

CN: 80, that's why we gotta take it 

JW: Yeah, yeah, i understand.

CN: We treat it that way.

HVY: 'Yeah.

CN: And, because we don?t know what's go, when the autopsy comes back, what's the
autopsy gonna say and 

HVV: l?ght

CN: This whole day, i don?t, I?m sure you guys will be able to go back there, you know,
and hang out in the front, but you?re gonna see lots and lots of cops there and they're
gonna go through the entire place, so.

HW: Oh, man.

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JW:

Dude that, that, 

I mean, yeah, I can't imagine anyone being like, out for his life.

HW:

JW: Dude, I?m 

HW: He?s such 

ON: 

HW: He is a peaceful person.

JW: Yeah.

HW: And he always talked about how, you know, if people, you know, say this or that
about me in the media or whatever, you know, I don?t have beef with anybody. i don't
have a problem with anybody. So, he, you know, 

CN: Was he depressed or anything?

HW: No, "not. ..

He don?t even, he, he was like, so anti-drama.

HW: Yeah.

I CN: Thatis. he?s low key.

HW: Yeah.

JW: Low key.

HW: Very chill

JW: He literally is like that. Like,

HW: Yeah.

JW: It?s, it?s interesting because, you know.

HW: Very quiet.

JW: Cause when you see celebrities you kind of wonder like, you know, what are they
really like? You know, he, he, like, when it comes to even confrontation, he?s not like
that. He enjoyed, ah, 

HW: Uh-huh.

JW: Um, conversation, whether it?s passionate or not, whether it?s chill or ah, I don?t want
to say aggressive, butiust more hype like when you get passionate. Like if, you know
how I mean.

HW: Yeah.

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CN:

Like if you get into something that you're passionate about you 

HW: Yeah.

JW: Let?s say you bring up politics or religion like those kind of topics we often um, ah
Jesus.

HW: So many people calling right now.

JW: Yeah, so it?s one of those things .dude.

HW: Sorry.

CN: No, I, I understand. Your phone is gonna be blowing up pretty soon.

HW: Yeah, no, but he, yeah.

JW: Poof!

HW: i mean peaceful and and was extremely smart and enjoyed studying and learning
new things and so 

JW: Oh my gosh. I'm it?s sinking in a little bit.

HW: He had the he had the opportunity to sit down with people and I
just have intelligent conversation, like, he's very shy actually. A lot of
people may not believe that.

CN: No, that's the way i took him as 

HW: But, um, and then when you actually get to know him though and he opens up he's
really funny. 

JW: Smart.

HW: And likes to be around 

JW: That guy is smart.

HW: Funny, vibrant people, but extremely smart,

CN: Okay.

JW: Like, he, he's smart, man.

CN: All right. Well, is there anything else you can think of?

JW: Well, i this is a weird question.

CN: Sure.

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JW:

But if you guys find out that there was some type of, is that, is that public or is that
something you guys have to keep silent, 

HW: Meaning like can we know?

JW: Could we find out like, i don?t know. That's kind of weird, like is it closure? Like, like if
somebody tried to hurt my family member I would wanna know who.

CN: Yeah.

HW: Yeah.

CN: No, you?ll be, when the autopsy comes back then the case will, once we close our
case?.

JW: Yeah.

ON: Then everybody gets notified.

JW: Like the world?

CN: And it?s, it?s, it's, public. Yeah.

HW: Oh.

JW: Okay, cause that to me is like, that person justice and all that kind of stuff you know
what mean?

HW: Yeah, right.

0N2. Until then right now, obviously, I don?t know the people listen to the scanners and all
that kind of stuff .

JW: Yeah.

CN: You know, if they heard there?s somebody way I understood it is

it came out as an unresponsive male at Paisley Park as it got dispatched out.

JW: Because I don?t think anybody was even with him from what Meron told us.

HW: No, yeah, because they found him and he 

JW: Yeah.

CN: Yeah, they came in the morning and then made the call right away.

JW: And, and, let me tell you, like unless, that?s the thing, like it would?ve had to have
been, I don?t think anybody did anything.

HW: I don?t think so either.

JW: I really don?t.

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HW: i can't think of anyone.

JW: Cause it?s almost like really Impossible in a sense because Prince knows if
somebody comes in the building, you know what mean?

HW: The doves always coo.

JW: Like the doves always sing like crazy, I mean.

HW: Yeah.

JW: 1 mean.

HW: When there?s activity.

JW: Yeah, like he knows, you know what I mean?

HW: Yeah.

JW: And 

HW: And the gate?s always closed, the doors are always looked.

JW: The gate?s always closed, the door, you know what i mean?

HW: Really good security.

JW: it would be like some straight Mission Impossible type stuff. You know what I mean?

HW: Yeah. I

JW: For somebody to even get close to him, to know he?s there and where to go.

HW: Right.

JW: You know what I mean? 

CN: Do you know if_ he had security cameras inside or anything like that?

HW: He does haye cameras. I don?t know where.

JW: There?s cameras. I don?t know if they're active. Kirk might know something like that.

Okaydon't think, don?t think they?re working.

HW: I don?t know. I

CN: Okay.

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JW:

I don?t think they?re on. i think it might?ve been just a part of the building, but he didn?t
feel like the needed to live in fear 

HW: Yeah, like he didn?t own any weapons or anything.

JW: You know, sometimes he would have the doors open, you know what I mean? And
so I?d drive by and see the windows op, orthe, the, the, the. front door open on
beautiful days, you know?

CN: Yeah.

JW: And so some, he didn't live like in a sense where, he even said that like, when we
were talking one time like, you know, why do people live in a state of fear?

HW: Uh?huh.

JW: You know what I mean? Just in conversations, you know.

HW: And just taking about like guns and stuff like that. like he didn?t own any guns. He
didn't feel like the needed to. Yeah.

JW: Yeah.

And he didn?t have any bodyguards or anything like that?

HW: Not at Paisley.

JW: No, I mean, well, at 

. HW: oh the road he had.

JW: On the road, you know what l?m saying? Like I said 

HW: Not on a regular basis.

JW: Yeah, not on like a consistent basis.

HW: Like at home.

JW: Kirk has done security work, but all the security guards who would?ve quote unquote
been there would?ve been folks at ah, ah, Paisley Park after dark. It's like these
events we do.

CN: Yeah.

HW: Yeah, whenthere?s shows and stuff.

JW: But they?re, they?re hired, hired folks who come help.

HW: They?re at night.

JW: No, but Kirk is the guy who functions as like the main security and I mean I?ve even
done security in a sense.

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JW:

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JW:
CN:
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JW:

Yeah, so have I.

Yeah, we, 

I mean we get people that just stroll up to the building all the time.
Oh yeah.

And we say, "Hey this is private property.?

Oh yeah we ?,ve we? ve, yeah, we? ve, we ?ve all been you know like I said, at, when
you' re, when you? re in that you kind of..

To get into the building do you need a key or a card?

No there?s, 

Like a fob or something?

There's two gates that you get into the building. There?s actual keys to the doors.
Okay.

But um, there?s, there?s three, there?s one garage which is his main entrance, but
that?s toward the back end. You?d need a clicker.

Okay.

Kirk has a clicker. Sometimes Meron has a clicker.
Okay. I

Ah, even had a clicker once, you know, but I don?t have one now.
But it?s usually like Prince, Kirk, Meron.

Yeah.

They?re, they have 

Yeah, 

He gave them openers.

Kirk, and Meron cause Meron is the assistant.
Okay.

So, you know.

Where does she live?

She lives, basically, at the Country Inn Hotel.

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CN: Okay.

HW: ln Chanhassen, or 

JW: And then, I'm sorry, yeah the Country Inn and Suites.

HW: The Country Inn and Suites, sorry.

JW: Yeah, but then she, I think she actually lives in Farmington.

CN: Okay.

JW: You know what I'm saying? 80, um, yeah, she?s, she's his assistant.

CN: Yeah, you can grab that.

JW: And then he's the estate manager and I?m just kinda, dude, I mean, I don't even
know what, what to call him, you and l. Just like family, man, he?s 

HW: Family, I mean, he's mentioned to us that, you know, he feels like we?re his kids and
he loves us like we?re his kids.

JW: I Yeah. 

HW: And that?s what it, you know it feels like that.

GM: Yeah.

HW: This doesn?t feel like our, you know, like our boss.

JW: Yeah, it's not, he, he even said 

HW: Or anything like that and it never has.

JW: He?s even said that, like l'm not your guys?s boss, 

HW: Yeah, we work together. We work with each other. You don?t work for me. He, he's
been 

He says that with everyone, 

HW: Sweet and . ..

JW: You know he's, he?s really, you know, it?s, it is what it is.

ON: How about family wise? Who does he have for family?

HW: We don't knovv'other 

JW: The only person i know 

HW: ls Tyka.

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JW: ls Tyka and i don?t know if Omar if that?s his 

HW: I don't know, I don't know his real name. I don?t know his last name.

JW: don',t but let me tell you something, like i said man it?s, it' 3, it?s a tight knit so, I
mean I met Tyka In all the four years I've been here. ..twice?

HW: Yeah, and only saw her this last time at Paisley.

JW: And it was literally in the last couple of months. She met, the second time I met Tyka
was the second time she met her. .

HW: Which was this, the last party he had.

JW: 80, you know, you know, um, I don?t know of any other family that he has.

HW: He's never mentioned, he, he never talked 

JW: I even asked him about his family and you know, i mean, it?s, they?re all i guess his
half siblings.

CN: Okay.

JW: You know what I?m saying? 80, um, from what I know, you know what I?m saying? It?s
what he, hesaid, 

HW: And, i mean, he's made comments like you guys are more family to me than any
blood relatives.

JW: Well, he said that but that's kind of like a crazy thing to record 

HW: Well, no, l?m just saying like, that?s just, he didn?t really talk about family too much.

JW: Yeah, he, he didn't.

CN: Well, is everything you guys told me today true?

HW: Yes.

JW: Yes.

CN: Have I made any threats or promises to you?

JW: No.

HW: Have you made any threats? No, no.

CN: Okay. Do you agree to sign this statement after it?s typed and you?ve had a chance to
read it?

HW: Yes.

JW: Yeah.

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CN: Do you understand that you can receive a copy of your statement after signing it?
HW: Yeah.
JW: Yeah. that?s cool.

CN: Okay, we'll end this statement at 12:11 hours on 4/21/16.

INADVERTENT ERRORS ANDIOR OMISSIONS MAY HAVE OCCURRED DURING THE TRANSCRIBING OF THIS
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CN: Det. Chris Nelson, #839 MS: Dr. Michael Todd Schulenberg,?

CN: Okay, this is a recorded statement given by ah, Michael Todd Schulenberg, date of
birth of~from, answering questions from Detective Chris Nelson, badge 839.
This statement?s being taken at Chanhassen City Hall in Chanhassen, Minnesota, ah
on 4/21/2015 at approximately 11:57am. Ah, present as a witness during this
statement is no one. Ah, again, this in reference to ah, 16012559 and correction it?s
actually 10:57.

MS: 10:57.

CN: Okay, go ahead and just tell me your name again for the record please, sir.

MS: Michael Todd Schulenberg.

CN: Okay, and what?s your mailing address?

M8: 

CN: - And what?s a phone number for you?

MS: Ah, home number is- I

CN: Okay. 

MS: 

CN: And cell phone.

MS. 

CN: Okay, you understand you?re not under arrest and this is a voluntary statement,
correct? Okay. Um, what would you like to be called? Would you like to be called
Michael, 

MS: Mike. Mike?s fine.

CN: Okay, Mike, I understand that you?re a doctor or physician that 

MS: Correct.

CN: Had seen 

MS: Professional contact with the decedent.

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Okay, and the deceased is, 1, it?s Prince, his name, but his real name is Roger
Nelson, correct?

Ah, I thought his name, and he's in our electronic record as Prince Rogers Nelson.

Okay, perfect. Okay, can you just give me a brief history how you became in contact
with him? .

Ah, sure. Um, Kirk Johnson who was present this morning ah, has been a patient of
mine for probably 16 plus years and ah, last fall Kirk contacted me to see if I would
be open to ah, helping him with his ah, boss. Ah, at that point and time itjust was,
you know, kind of the idea of like doing a physical, getting things checked out, um,
and that?s what was ah, shared with me. Um, nothing evercame to fruition with that
until about ah, two weeks ago on April I received a text message, I think at 5:45
in the morning. 

Okay.

Um, asking if i would be able to ah, help out and "potentially administer some l.V.
fluids that day. .

Okay.

80, um, after speaking with ah, Kirk, ah, I came over to Paisley Park at about 6:45 in
the morning. . 

Okay.

Um, met ah, Prince, ah took a history, did what physical exam I could ah, at his ah,
house, or studio.

Yup.

Um, and then, since he wanted LV. fluids, that's not something i could do there so
then we arranged to meet up at my ah, office um, and, 

Where is your office located at?

My office is at 15450 Highway 7, Minnetonka 55345. 80, um, so Kirk ah, brought ah,
Prince over. Ah, Meron, who is Prince?s Personal Assistant then met us there too.

Okay.

And ah, just for privacy purposes, we entered through the back of the building and
came into the urgency center part which was not open for patient care.

Okay.

Um, placed an gave him a liter of W. normal saline, ah, he said he felt better
and then left in the ah, presence of ah, Meron. 

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Um, let?s see, two days later he called me to let me know he was feeling better, um,
that some of the that we had discussed on the or no, it was, sorry, it
couldn?t be two days later.

Okay.
It was on the 
On the 

Yeah, so on the 8th um, Meron texted me at lunch and said, could Prince talk to you?
And then about ?10 minutes later Prince called me and Spoke to him on the phone
for about 15 minutes urn, just ah, reviewed that some of the he had been
complaining, of on the had improved after the W. fluids, um,_and ah, then ah, we
just kind of talked about ah, a plan. He was, had seen a Chiropractor that night. He
was having some new and we just kind of talked about that and I offered
to see him again um, and do some blood work if he felt that was necessary. Um, but
we just kind of left it at that.

At that.

Ah, and then the next urn, my next contact with him was on the 21?, yesterday.
Okay.

Where, I gotta look at the, I don't re, ah Kirk contacted me.

Okay.

Ah, by text and um, let?s see here, ah, or actually i had talked to Kirk on, I think,
Wednesday? Yes, and then we had talked about having Prince come over for kind of
an assessment, maybe some blood work, ah, and ah, on Thursday at 7pm and then
it, then it happened actually at 5. Kirk got in touch with me and then he came, we,
they, Kirk and Prince came over to the office at 5pm.

Okay.

So, in the interim um, i had learned from Kirk who stated to me that he had just
learned this, ah, concern that ah, Prince was using ah,_opiates.

Opiates? Did he say, ah, how much he was using?

Kirk didn?t know.

Okay.

Um, what he told me is that he had been in contact with a lot of people who knew
Prince ah, and who, apparently, were aware of this, but Kirk told me that he had not
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And the first time that they called you and contacted you, what kind of the
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Ah, you know, he was complaining of like, ah, numbness, ah, and tingling in one of
his legs. I think it was the right leg and then numbness and tingling in his hands. Ah,
and that he had had some ah, vomiting ah, the night before that ah, he had attributed
to ah, some soup he had eaten.

Okay.

Imean, I didn?t

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Walk around 

Yeah.

Look to see if there was any vomit around 

Sure.

Stuff like that, so.

And then at any time?did PrinCe tell you that he was suffering from, if that?s the case,
that he was taking Opiates or anything like that?

I asked him if he was taking any prescription medications ah, and Ith, I believe he
said, Um, and then i asked again if he was taking anything for like, ah, the
hands and he said that he had a medication but he didn?t know what it was.

Was, okay, and in your time you didn?t prescribe him any new medications or
anything like that.

I did not prescribe any medications on the 

Okay.

Yesterday prescribed medications to treat opiate withdrawal.
Okay.

So, ah, so Prince came in at 5 yesterday. We arranged again to, at that
time, because the clinic is ah, 

Yeah.
There are no patients around cause he, my impression was that he wanted privacy,
and um, so we met, we took Vitals, did kind of the routine stuff. I did a history,

physical examination, um, asked him about ah, blood work which he was ah,
consenting to do at that time and then i had one of the nurses come in to draw blood

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Prince told me that he wa, had, was taking Tylenol.
Okay.

I asked him if there were any other ingredients in the Tylenol and, I believe, he either
said, or that he did not know.

Did not know.

Um. and I asked him when he had last taken Tylenol and he said it .was that morning.
Okay. I

Ah. and his main complaint when he came'in is that. he was feeling antsy.

Antsy.

Ah, he denied any'nausea or vomiting. Ah, he said he felt a little shaky, ah, denied
any diarrhea.

Okay.

I was asking about opiate withdrawal 
Okay.

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And has the blood work and everything, has that, all the results come back on all that
yet? -

Ah, it has.
Okay.

Um, I?m sorry, howl ended up at Paisley Park this morning ah, and then so the story
con?nued,son.

Okay.

Um, we administered the liter of LV. fluids. Um, I sent a prescription to the Walgreens
on 101 and 7

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of Clonidine before he left the office and one dose of Hydroxyzine. Do you needme
to spell those?

Yeah.

Clonidine is C-l?o?n-i-d-i-n-e. It's a blood pressure medication that has, for many
years, been used to treat of opiate withdrawal.

Okay.

And Hydroxyzine ah, H?y?d-r?o-x-y?z?i?n-e is an antihistamine similar to like, Benadryl.
Okay and he took one dose of that?

Took one dose of those because he felt that he needed something to relax. He asked
if something could be given intravenously and I said, we didn?t keep things like
that in the office.

Okay.

Which, in the clinic we don?t, in the urgency center they do, but i, frankly, I didn't
wanna, I didn't wanna make the problem worse. 

Sure.

By doing, by giving, you know some other type of controlled 

Sure.

Intravenously in the office.

So, the doses you gave him were in pill form?

Yeah, Clonidine 0.1 and the Hydroxyzine was 25 milligrams.

And last night when he left did he seem like he was in good spirits?

Yeah, yeah, he walked out. He appeared comfortable. He left with Kirk and that was
around 6:30. - -

Okay, and when people want l.V.s and you give peOple l.V.s what does that help
with? Is that just like, flushing out your system?

Mostly people just feel better if they're dehydrated.
Okay.

i guess i would say that maybe he was mildly dehydrated. His mouth looked a little
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Low, okay, and do you know if he filled his prescription? You don?t know?

i only know that he filled the prescription for the Clonidine.

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Um, the other two prescriptions ah, that issued, I printed. You?d have to ask 
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If those were filled because I gave them to Kirk. Ah, one was for a prescription of the -
Hydroxyzine.

Yup.

And, after looking up opiate withdrawal treatment on the computer, ah, I issued a

prescription for Valium.

Okay.

Prior to discharge, um, there was still, he, Prince and Kirk left around 6:30 ah, cause
i had picked my daughter up at gymnastics at 6:45 over by Paisley Park, actually.
Um, the, ah, ljust had a frank discussion and stated to Prince with Kirk in the room
that ah, Kirk had been a long time patient of mine, um, i did not want to violate trust.
Ah, Prince explicitly asked what the two prescriptions were and I didn?t want to lie so
I, cause Kirk's preference was to not even have the Valium available, which i totally
understand.

Yup, cause he had an issue 

Um, but felt that if it could be administered in a, well, I wasn?t aware that he had an
issue with Valium.

Okay.

So, but if it could be administered in a supervised setting it, it would be a safe thing to
use, but i explicitly stated to Prince that ah, just my understanding that ah, what, it
was my responsibility to be a good doctor and I didn?t want to substitute one problem
for another.

Another, sure.

And he said, ?Understood, I will use the other two first.?

Okay.

Ah, exp, you know, speaking explicitly about the Valium.

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Um, and then that was the last time when they left the office, that's the last time that I
physically seen Prince.

Okay, and what kind of effect does Valium have on your system?

So, the types of that Valium would be used to treat it for in this setting are

. primarily the anxiousness.

Okay.

Jitteriness, ah, it's widely used as a tranquilizer, a muscle relaxant, ah I do
yasectomies. I give men Valium to take before the 

Okay.

To help them relax.

Okay. 

So, and prescribed what I thought were ah, reasonable, short term quantities. I think
for the Clonidine it was 30 for the Hydroxyzine it was 30 capsules and for the Valium

it was just 15 ah, tablets. 

if you were to mix all of those kind of things would that cause problems within your
system?

lt certainly could if you intentionally overdosed on all of these, but as far as like are
they given together for opiate withdrawal? Probably on a routine basis.

Okay, and then this morning you were going over 



And then I cut you off.

No, actually ah, last night ah, I received a call from Phaedra. Ah, Kirk had ah, given
her my contact information to her. I?m just checking. i think It was around ah, 8:30.
So, 8:17, i don't mind showing this. We had an 11 minute phone call.

Okay.

Where she asked me if I would be ah, willing to speak to a Dr. Kornfeld. Ah, Prince, i
believe Prince or Kirk had reached out to Phaedra.

Okay.

Um, to arrange a chemical dependency assessment and treatment and so she was
calling me as ah, the doctor of record regarding this.

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Um, wanting to know if i would speak with ah, Dr. Kornfeld. Um, I gave her ah,
information about our interaction. Ah, what medications had prescribed because,
ah. potentially. was told Dr. Kornfeld might reach out to a doctor in Minnesota who
could prescribe um, anti-withdrawal medications.

Sure.

Um. that medication is Suboxone. I've not gone through the training and so I don?t
prescribe Suboxone. 

Okay.

You have to go through training to prescribe it forthat.

And Dr. Kornfield?s out 

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F-e-l-d. He's out in California. Um, runs, he?s an addiction medicine speCialist.
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Um, and ab, so she was gonna reach out back to him. Um, and wanted to know if ah,
if I would speak to him. 

Okay.

So, and then the second phone call, which occurred at 10:47 ah, was Phaedra calling .
me again and then we were conference called with Dr. Kornfeld.

Okay.

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And Phaedra, at this time, was out in California, correct?
As far as I know. The area code's from San Jose.

Okay.

But everyone has cell phones these days, so.

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Urn, after the first conversation with Phaedra, I texted Kirk to say spoke to this

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CN: Yup.

MS: And he texted back, said yes, thanks.

Okay.

MS: 80, um, so I spOke briefly with Dr. Kornfeld. Ah, explained ah, what had, the
medications hadgiven. He agreed that those were appropriate medications to
manage withdrawal and then shared with me that he was having his son come out
who is here.

ON: Yup.

MS: as ah, kind of ah, ah, and try to convince Prince to come out to California for ah,
ah, opiate withdrawal treatment 

ON: Okay.

MS: Management. Ah, and had thought that, just shared that had thought what I did was
medically appropriate.

CN: Okay.

MS: 30, um, then I received, then i went back to bed cause I had been sleeping.

CN: Sure.

MS: Ah, and received a couple texts from Kirk that came at 11:12pm after he mistakenly
sent me a photo of the interior of Paisley Park at 9:38. i got it and I'm like, what's
that? Um, but i didn?t see these texts until this morning. Ah, and so then I went into
the office, arrived at my office at about 8:15, finished ah, my documentation on the
note, um, and asked Kirk if he was still in town. Ah, Kirk texted me back as you can
see there. l?m still here waiting for him to wake up to give him something to take edge
off and that the other doctor, I presume, he?s referring 

ON: Yeah (inaudible)

MS: Andrew, who's not a medical doctor, ah is in town to help. Ah, thanks for the help.
Ah, and then i said, I?ve rec, have records and test results that I can fax over to
Paisley if you have a fax machine. Prince had given me verbal ah, permission to
communicate all test results and medical concerns to Kirk.

CN: Kirk, okay.

MS: Um, and Kirk texted back, do you have a fax? Ah, and then as was texting him he
texted me about the email. Um, we don?t have con?dential or secure email so 1 don't
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scanner at the office. 80 that?s when i said I just, I'll drive over, drive over. He said
that would be good. Let me know when you're coming, so itexted him. That was
probably about ah, 9:30, um saying I?ll be over in about 10 minutes, which ent,
entrance should meet you at? And, to make a long story short, that's how I ended
up at Paisley Park this morning, was just simply to drop off these records 

ON: Sure. I

MS: Smooth the'medical transition over to Dr. Kornfeld, um, in California. Ah, and then I
arrived at the scene ah, that you?re now well aware of.

CN: Okay.

MS: Totally um, by coincidence.

CN: Okay.

MS: I was not aware that anything bad had happened.

CN: Okay.

MS: . Kirk had not responded to my last text, so, obviously.

CN: Do you know how to take ah, pictures of this stuff and 

MS: I don't.

CN: Okay.

MS: I'm pretty cell phone illiterate, l?m sorry.

CN: Okay, because, like i said, I will want to capture the conversation that you had at, you .


MS: That?s fine.

CN: Going back and forth with Kirk.

MS: The conversations that Kirk and 1 had back in the fall were also on my cell phone, but
that cell phone, unfortunately, took a'swim in the Dominican Republic last month, and
no longer functions.

CN: Okay.

MS: 80.

CN: Well, with your permission, can I take pictures of this? And 

MS: Ah, yeah, let me see here.

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Just of the conversation that you had.

MS: Ah, ah, yeah, 

CN: Cause I know how important the phone is to ya?.

MS: I think that?s the beginning.

CN: Okay. I'll do'that at the end.

MS: Okay.

CN: When we're all done here.

MS: Sure.

CN: is there anything else that you can think of that?s important to this?

MS: Ah, so, on, so when [talked to Prince, you know, on Friday, he had informed me that

he had cancelled his shows. That he was supposed to go to that night.

CN: Okay.

MS: On the 14?? .um, Kirk contacted me asking if Prince could have some pain medication
because his hip was bothering him. i did feel comfortable issuing a prescription um.
because I had evaluated him the week before and issued a prescription for 15
Percocet. Um, and then Friday night I, like everybody else, heard about the, or was it
Saturday? Yeah, Saturday, heard about the emergency landing and everything and
then 

CN: . ldidn?t hear about the emergency landing (inaudible)

MS: Oh, yeah, he was flying back from Atlanta

CN: Okay.

MS: And had an emergency landing in Illinois and was in an ER. for 3 hours to get ah, fif,
ah, LV. fluids.

CN: Okay.

MS: And 

CN: Was that on his private plane?

MS: I believe 50.

CN: Okay.

MS: Yeah. Um, and then on Monday, the Kirk texted me, and if you take pictures
you?ll see this, can you call me? So i called him and it was at that time that Kirk ah,
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MS: Ah, he apologized that he had asked me to issue ah, prescription ah, for that and that
he had only just found out and had, over the weekend contacted a number of people.
He did not tell me specifically who they were other than he mentioned ,an ex?wife,
um, who verified that, potentially, I guess Prince had had a problem for many years.

CN: Okay.

MS: With ah, opiate use.

CN: Opiates.

MS: 

CN: Over a prolong, prolonged period of time of abusing that. What can that do to your
body?

MS: Well, ah, prolonged use of opiates um, causes ah, dependence so if you stop you?re
gonna go through withdrawal.

CN: Sure.

MS: Ah, you can have habituation where people require increasing amounts of opiates to
treat whatever . ..

CN: Sure.

MS: They're experiencing. Um, men can go through premature testicular failure. That's
probably why the low market's so big right now.

CN: Yup.

MS: Ah, women can go through premature menopause, so it can have some endocrine
effects.

CN: Okay.

MS: Um, beyond that, ah, i would not necessarily consider myself an expert in the long
term effects of opiates. Ah, and I did not inquire about like, how long is, exactly how
long this has been going on. i did not inquire exactly like, who Kirk had talked to to
get this information.

CN: Sure.

MS: And so then that kind of came the urgency of this week with the idea of doing this
evaluation as urn, hopefully to potentially find some medical evidence that these
medications were harming Prince as a way to ah, potentially convince him to seek
ah, treatment.

CN: Sure. Okay. if i was gonna seek to get the medical records would that go through
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MS: Yeah.

CN: Okay.

MS: There?s virtually nothing there.

CN: Nothing.

MS: We did do lab tests yesterday. Really the only thing that was remarkable was ah,
mild anemia, not even really enough to cause 

CN: Okay.

MS: Urn, and at the end of the visit ah, Prince, ah, asked to use the bathroom so we
collected a sample and ran a urine drug screen on it is, was positive for opiates.

CN: Okay.

MS: Ah, and nothing else, ah, drug screen of abuse. Urn, always order drugscreens with
confirmatory testing but that?s not back yet. Confirmatory testing is where it 

CN: Yeah, it gets sent 

MS: Exactly which one it is.

CN: Yup. Okay, is there anything else you can think of?

MS: Ah, not unless you had any other questions for me.

CN: No.

lVlS: So these are 

CN: I think you pretty much explained everything and explained (inaudible)

MS: These were theoniy two times that I?ve had contact with Prince.

CN: Yeahthink ah, was trying to help as best I could.

CN Yeah.

MS: You know, given the ah, information available and I totally agreed with the plan to set
up, you 

CN: Yeah.

MS: Chemical dependency um, treatment. So, I may have mentioned to'ah, had given
Kirk ah, a contact at our clinic who had a confidential contact at Hazelden as well.

CN: Okay.

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MS: Cause, understandably, we?re trying to do this, that?s hence the very early morning
and after clinic hours visits, 

CN: To keep it confidential.

MS: But I play by the rules and it?s all documented in our electronic medical record.

ON: No, that?s good.

MS: And, and have not provided any other services or prescriptions or anything outside
of what?s been documented in the electronic record.

CN: And all the 

MS: Well, i take that back. When I saw him on the 7?h prescribed ah, prescriptions for
Zofran which is an anti?nausea medication.

ON: Okay. I

MS: And vitamin D.

ON: Well.

MS: Um, under Kirk's name.

CN: Okay.

MS: Because ah, they?re not controlled.

ON: They?re not controlled substances.

MS: And ah, yeah. Ah, the only thing I regret, and I?ll be perfectly honest is that ah, Kirk
said it would be better if I provided the Percocet prescription under his name.

ON: The Percocet.

MS: Yeah.

CN: Okay.

MS: And so, that's in our electronic medical record. documented it.

CN: Okay.

MS: That ah, it was being provided for back pain.

CN: Okay.

MS: Um, I?ve known Kirk for 16 years. Ah, to the best of my recollection, that?s probably
the first prescription for a controlled medication I have ever issued to him.

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Yup, it would be under Kirk's.

Yes, so I do regret that i did that, but I don?t do things like that. Actually this is
probably the first time I?ve ever done anything like that.

And how many Percocet pills was that? Do you remember?

it was Percocet 5/325 ah, 15 that was before I was aware 

Of the opiate.

Of the opiate problem, which I learned about on the 

Sure. Okay. Well, I don?t think there's anything else that I need to get from you
except for I?ll go get a camera. I?ll just take pictures of the conversation that you had
with you and Kirk.

Sure.

But, and notime Prince never called you or anything like that did he?

Prince called me that Friday the 

Okay.

Ah, and we had talked on my phone for about 15 minutes, on my cell phone for about
15 minutes.

Okay, but you, he didn?t text you or anything like that?
No.
Okay.

I?ve not had a texting conversation with ah, Prince and I'm not even sure ah, l'm not
even sure I have his phone number on my phone anymore.

Okay.
Urn, you know, I, it is urn, not my mission in life to be a doctor to the stars.
Yeah.

Um, let me see here, yeah, there's, that?s the ah, phone number right there.

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CN: Yup.

MS: 1:30 so, and that was shortly after ah, Meron, who?s his Personal Assistant had
texting me, had texted me asking if i could speak with Prince.

CN: Okay.

MS: And in that conversation, as I mentioned before, he basically, he said the, a lot of the
that he had complained about the day before had improved with the W.
fluids. Ah, and then he had mentioned the chiropractor had come that night, but it
wasn?t his usual one. He was concerned about some he was having after
ah, one of the adjustments.

ON: The numbness?

MS: Well, he was having I can?t recall exactly and i didn?t document this
conversation in our electronic record that he was having 1 think, down the
left leg that sounded like a nerve root 

GM: Okay.

MS: Had been irritated by the chiropractic manipulation. .

CN: Sure.

80, and Ijust tried to reassure him that it?ll probably get better. Just give it a little bit
of time.

CN: Yeah.

MS: it does not mean you?re out of balance.

CN: Sure. Okay,well is there anything else that you can think of?

MS: Ah, no, that?s pretty much it to the best of my recollection.

CN: Okay. Is everything that you told me here today true?

MS: To the best of my knowledge.

CN: Um, have i made any threats or promises to you?

M8: N0. 

ON: Do you agree to sign the statement after it?s typed and you?ve had a chance to read
it?

MS: Certainly.

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CN: Do you understand you can receive a copy of your statement?
MS: I do now.

CN: Okay. We will end this statement at approximately 11:30am on 4/21? 6. 

INADVERTENT ERRORS ANDIOR OMISSIONS MAY HAVE OCCURRED DURING THE TRANSCRIBING OF THIS
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MCN: All right Meron, just tell me what you know. What,what, what did you do for Prince?
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MB: . Um, I?ve assisted him with anything that he asked.
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MB: whether it would be getting him lunch, um, you know.
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MB: Just simple things that he would needs, getting groceries, he
.- wants stuff to, if he wants stuff from the stores or anything really, just him, his

Okay.
MB: Related so, that?s about it.
in, in the lastCouple of weeks it sounds like he?s been having some health issues.
Haveyou noticed that too?
MB: I?ve, Well, he, he had a flu and-he cancelled a Show.
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MB: '80, yes, i knew about that.
CN: Okay. Ah, when you say he had the flu, was be throwing up 
MB: No. 
CN: Diarrhea 
MB: No.

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to be here. - 

CN: - Okay. 

MB: -Type Of thing so if he was having that type of I wouldn?t know.

CN: Okay. I

MB: Unless he shared it with the doctor. He didn?t share it with me.

ON: I Okay. Did you have a routine that you came here at a certain time or was it just that
he would call and 

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JO: Oops, are you in the middle?

CN: Yes.

JO: Can I ask hersomething real quick?

CN: Yes. I

JO: I Hello, my name is Jim Olson, the Sheriff. Um, do you know who Prince?s attorney

was? Do you have any idea? -

MB: Um, there?s a couple.

JO: Okay. Would one of them be from Fox law firm like a Jerry Hanson or
something? Does that 

MB: Gary? -

JO: Could be Gary Hansen.

MB: Possibly, why?

JO: Okay, we?ve got him outside.

MB: Oh, okay.

JO: But we don't want to 

MB: I think um, I think right now they?re probably coming to talk to us so you can just keep
them out for now and we'll talk to 

JO: Just keep them out? Okay.

MB: Yeah, we?ll reach out, just, ifthey're looking for me Hi probably (inaudible)

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Okay, they weren't looking for you, directly.

Oh, okay. I

But they wanted to get in here then.

Okay, maybe talk to Kirk.

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Okay, how, so did you have a regular schedule of you coming to work a certain time
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l?m usually here in the afternoons.

In the afternoons?

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Okay. And how long have you worked for him?

A year and a half.

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i see him when (inaudible)

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Okay, and do you know if he's on any medications or anything like that?
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Did you have to go buy him anything?

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like, diarrhea or having the flu or something like that?

I?ve gotten him like fleet or something for constipation.
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Not Tylenol.

Not Tylenol? Okay, and the last couple weeks who?s, have you noticed anyone else
really coming here or has it just been your inner circle?

Just us.

Just you guys? Okay, and the last time you seen him was last night?

Uh?huh.

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Um, around 4:30.

Around 4:30? ls'that when you left or is that when he went to his room?

No, that?s when I came. He was gonna go to the doctor to get a checkup.

Okay, yup.

And then i came here with Kirk and we were gonna take him like we always do.
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Yup.

So, we had a cook and packed up food and so I had to let the chef in.
Yeah. I

That's kind of what my job is.

Okay, do, do you know if he ate last night?

I don't believe, I mean, if there's whatever Ray brought in if it?s still back there then
no.

Okay.

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Okay, what time did you leave last night?

Um, around 11 or 10.

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10:30 or 11? Okay, and did you see him before then?

Uh-uh. I didn?t, that was the last.

Last time? Okay, well is there anything else you can think of that might be important?
No.

Okay, he wasn?t complaining of any pain in his legs or tingling or anything like thatyou?

No.

All right, well, that?s all I needed.

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CN: Detective Chris Nelson, Badge #823

JH: Judith Glory Hill, 

RD: Robert Dugdale, Attorney
Unk: Jeff Voller, DEA Agent

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CN: Our, our plans are not to discuss what we talk with you directly with anyone else just like
we've, we?ve talked to numerous people and we?re not going to discuss specifically what was
said in our conversations with other people, so I hope you feel comfortable talking to us and
again I?m glad that you reached out to us um I think it?s important, our condolences. I know
you've lost a friend and a co-worker and a colleague um with that Um let..let's just start with just
some basic, basic stuff that we always start with in interviews, just if you could ah spell your 
name for us. -

JH: 

CN: Okay do you have a middle name Judith?
JH: Glory.

CN: Okay and what's your date of birth?

JH: 

CN: Okay how about a mailing address?

JH: Um? so there'?in it, oh, that?s email, you?re talking

about.

- CN: That's okay, yep.

JH: ..ah actual.
ON: A physical mailing address if..the old school.
JH: ..okay, yeah.

CN: ..if I wanted to drop something with the post office.
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JH: a?
CN: Okay how about a phone number.

JH: 

CN: Okay.

Unk: Just to let you know that this..we don?t release this information, this is just to make sure if
we have to subpoena you for some reason, the US. Attorney would be able to locate you.

JH: Okay.

RD: That?s right, and you, and you can tell them, she?s represented by counsel..

Unk: Yes, right, they know that.

RD: ..their communication should come through me, not through her.

Unk: Right, right, right.

RD: Okay.

CN: - Um I think to start with, if it?s okay with you, you guys kind of reached out with us ah we
have numerous questions we'd like to ask but is there ah a specific reason or what, what would
you like to tell us and we?ll kind of go from there, does that work for you?

JH: Oh..

CN: How about we, how about we start with..and I?ll, l?ll make it a little bit easier than that
open blanket, how about we first talk about um the trip to Atlanta.

JH: Okay.

CN: Can you start with um, um was that planned months in advance, weeks in advance?
JH: No it was the night, overnight.

CN: When was it planned, when did you know that you were traveling?

JH: Um I Spoke with him the night before and we didn?t..  had no plans of going to Atlanta
and then the next morning he said hey, do you want to go to Atlanta with me today to see my
show.

CN: Okay so that, so..so that would have been the next morning, would have been the 13th or
the 14th of Aprilwas um, what was the day before? I didn?t have much time, it was like

that happened and then my flight was like the next day or something like that.

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CN: Okay, okay and I?m not trying to, I?m not trying to pin you down.
JH: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CN: ..to a specific date or whatever, just as best as you can.
JH: Yes I think it was the next day was the show.

Unk: And Judith where are you when you, you first.

JH: Um L.A.

CN: Okay so..

Unk: Okay so you?re in LA. and you get this invitation to go..
ON: Yep.

Unk: go to it, okay.

CN: 80, so your trip is from LA. to, to Atlanta?

JH: Minneapolis.

Unk: Oh you're..okay.

CN: Oh, to Minneapolis, okay, okay and then when you got to Minneapolis, where did you
go?

JH: I checked in to the Country Inn, it?s a hotel like down the road from Paisley Park.

CN: Okay, okay and then ah, that was, was that on the day that you guys traveled to Atlanta
or was that the day before?

JH: it was the night before.

ON: The night before, so probably i think on the 

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay then when did you first see ah Prince, Mr. Nelson?

JH: We got a late start that day so um he picked me up at the hotel noon or oneish.
CN: Okay.

JH: Maybe even later, two?

CN: Okay.

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JH: Late afternoon.

CN: Okay and this is the day before?

JH: This is the day of the show.

ON: The day of the show, okay.

JH: Yeah.

CN: ..okay and who was with him when he picked you up?
JH: Um just the driver and it was just me and him.

CN: Okay, do you know his driver?

JH: Was?it Kim? I think it was Kim that time. She usually does it, yeah I think Kim, I?m not
sure, but I'm pretty sure but usually Kim does the driving.

CN: Okay.

JH: Sometimes there?s someone else.

CN: Okay.

JH: But think it was Kim that time.

Unk: What were they, what were they driving that day?
JH: Ah like an 8.. um an SUV, black.

Unk: Okay.

CN: Okay and do you know Kim?s last name?

JH: No I don't.

CN: Okay how, how would'you describe Kim?

JH: Oh she?s really bubbly.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..she?s always laughing.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..she?s a very happy person, very fun.

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Yeah white.

White person.

Middle, middle aged like.

Okay, okay, okay so that?s the night, that?s..that?s the 14th and Prince is there and just

the driver and where do you guys go from there?

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Okay, okay.
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Okay and Kim drops you off and she's on herway and what ah what were the flight

Oh you mean like..

Meaning what did you guys fly, what when you got there.
Oh it was like a small jet..

Okay.

..we usually fly privately.

Yep.

..so a small jet, we just came in.

Okay have, have you flown with Prince numerous times?
Yeah.

Okay and is it, is it usually the same, the same jet do you know or..
Um similar, it's always a..it?s not like his personal jet..
Yep. 

..so sometimes it changes.

Yeah, he uses a company.

Yeah.

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Yeah, they?re,? they?re in the small little..

Yep, yep.

..cubicle in the front.

Yep, do you know, is it usually the same pilots or is it..

Different.

Different pilots, okay.

..yeah different.

How about flight crew, do you..

Sometimes it?s the same lady um when we, but they?re different.
Okay.

..different ones. That lady I?ve never met before.

Okay you.

Yeah.

Okay-so ah when you, when you flew out, who..who all was on the plane?
Oh it was just Prince um me and Kirk.

Okay and how did Kirk get there, do you know?

Ah he drove separately.

Okay.

..and met us there.

Okay so you guys met in the, in the airport.

Yeah, yeah in the plane yeah.

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CN: Okay how long um, so the driver you?d seen before ah the pilots maybe you?ve seen
before, the flight ah crew, not the crew but the urn flight attendant you hadn?t seen before ah
how about Kirk, have you seen him a lot? Do you know him?

JH: Oh yeah.

CN: Okay ah when, when did you first meet Kirk do you think?
JH: Um sometime ah sometime late 2014 maybe.

CN: Okay.

JH: I ..or the first of 2015, something like that.

CN: Okay and is that about the time that you met Prince aa'wen?
I JH: Yeah I met Prince in 2014.

CN: Okay so at..at about that same time.

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay how would you describe um during this entire time then, the..the relationship that
Prince and Kirk have or how would you describe Kirk's role with Prince?

JH: Oh he's his right-hand man.

CN: Okay.

JH: He does everything, I mean he was his dancer then like his music production, additional
production on his you know, records and then he became his drummer and then he, he was the
estate manager for Paisley Park and then he's a body guard, he was my drummer, he became
my drummer..

CN: Okay.

JH: . ..and musical MD for a while and um so he does everything.

CN: Okay did he, did he become your drummer after I assume you met him in '14, so after
you met Prince, met him through Prince.

JH: Yeah.
CN: ..and then he did some drumming for you? Okay.
JH: And then Prince put a band together for me and made Kirk the MD.

CN: Okay um when you say that he?s his right~hand man and he?s the manager of Paisley
Park, do you know, when you see Prince, is Kirk usually with him?

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JH: No.
CN: Okay.

JH: It depends um it is just, um the scenarios are different, my scen..l?m usually with Prince
and if we need Kirk to do something, Kirk will open up the you know, sometimes we get locked
out of Paisley and he has a separate key so he opens it up, stuff like that or he would go with..l
mean for me he was my drummer so he like ran all my stuff.

CN: Yeah.
JH: ..you know, I always saw him.
CN: Okay.

JH: For, for Prince he was, I mean he did everything. He was in the studio sometimes like
um any type of event at Paisley, he was the one that helped facilitate and bring the and just
kind of ran events so.. 

CN: Okay.
JH: mean I saw him in so many different versions of like he was'always doing something
different.

CN: Okay so the three of you are on the plane and anything ah you fly to Atlanta, is it directly
to Atlanta?

JH: Yeah.

CN: Anything eventful or anything happen on the plane or..
JH: He wasn?t feeling well, he just slept.

CN: Okay.

JH: In the back ofthe plane.

CN: Okay.

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay for most of the entire flight?

JH: Yeah he was..yeah he wasn?t feeling well.

CN: Okay and um anything other than that, just he wasn?t feeling well, he slept, okay.
JH: He slept.

CN: Okay how about when you get to Atlanta, what happens?

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Jl-l: Ah we get to Atlanta, go straight to the dressing room, go and get some food and he
sound checks and then um and then he does the show.

CN: Okay and where, so that?s what Prince does, that?s what you do, what does Kirk do
during that time, do you know?

JH: Yeah Kirk ah, I don?t know where Kirk went, we met with another bodyguard, so the
bodyguard kind of handled me and helped me get food and then Kirk went and, I don?t really
know, he has a lot going on cause he has to deal with whatever..

CN: Okay.

JH: ..that's logistically like as if a manager 30..

CN: Sure.

JH: h' ..so he went down and maybe Spoke to some of the..l don't know, he was just, I didn?t
see 1m.

CN: Okay so about, do you know about what time you got to the venue then?

JH: Ah well let's see, the first show was a 7:30 show I believe, 7:00 or 7:30 and we were
running late, we were pretty much getting there around that 

CN: Okay.

JH: ..so 'he had a really quick sound check and we had to get police escorted to the venue
anyways because we were running behind.

Unk: Where was the event?
CN: Okay.

JH: Where? Um it?s the beautiful theater, the um' ah what?s it called, it?s like a chain theater,
they?ve got..it's like old theater, I don't know, I forget the name. 

Unk: Something like the Pantages or..

JH: It?s not the Pantages but it?s like ah one of those 

ON: I forget now too, I read it of course but.

JH: It's like an-old beautiful theater.

Unk: Okay.

CN: Okay so um first show?s at 7:30 ah does, does ah Prince perform at that one?

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CN: Okay and take kind of..take us through um the you know, the night and you know let's
say up until you guys go back to the airport. Anything eventful? -

JH: Ah well, he i mean, he..he wasn?t really feeling good until he did his first show, he did his
first show and he did an amazing, incredible show and then came back to his dressing room
and you know, I went into the dressing room and I said hey amazing, he's like thank you you
know, I mean he said a lot of stuff that was kind of hard to hear.

CN: Okay.
JH: It was stuff like you 
CN: And I, and I would like to hear specifically and l..l it might be hard for you to..

JH: ..yeah, I mean he, yeah he..hejust, he just was in a never seen him, he was
just kind of, oh man I enjoy sleeping more these days you know, maybe it means We done all
l?m supposed to do here on this earth, stuff like that and was kind of like, so I was like okay,
you know and I was like well'what..what about the you know, like so you don't enjoy being here
um you know, when you're awake? He?s like no, it's boring, incredibly boring you know, so he
was very kind of in a..kind of depressed. 

CN: 'Okay.

JH: ..mindset and that was after the first show um second show he did the..another amazing
show, you?d never guess these things on..on the stage and then he comes back and that?s
when you know, he was a little more in a better mood.. 

CN: Okay.

JH: ..and he was um and then Janelle Moose and CeeLo Green kind of..and we all kind of
came in and had like a little, they were only there for like ten, fifteen minutesjust talking how .
great it was and um things like that.

CN: Okay.

Oh there?s another thing, there was, before the first show, or the first show
when he was more depressed talking about all those things there was a guy from Electric Fetus
whichis a small independent um record shop and he had one ofthe um younger guys ah that
owns it come out and..and sit there and talk about business things like we want to do this and
that with the store, so that was it.

CN: Okay when you ah, let me take you backjust a little bit here, when you said Prince
wasn?t feeling well urn did he tell you what wasn?t feeling well or what was, or was it just that he
wasn?t feeling well.

JH: Well that..the day of, of that when we..we woke up and went to the airplane or the show
he just says I?m not feeling well.

CN: Okay.

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JH: But you know, the conversation we had a few days earlier he was talking about how he
got sick and had to postpone the show and he was just like, he?s like no ljust developed flu like
like you would have a flu and then I lost my voice which was a concern.

CN: Sure.

JH: But he?d had his, he had his voice for the Atlanta show so it wasn?t that he lost his voice,
I think he might have just..l mean later on he told me he was just nauseous.

CN: Okay.

JH: It was a nausea kind of thing.

Okay-um so at the show he performs two shows, you mention a couple of people that,
that ah pop their heads in or visit him, any other people that um that he maybe knew or that..that
showed up um any peOple that he was um close to or spent any time with while, while you guys
were there that you were aware of?

JH: No.

CN: Okay.

JH: I Not for that Atlanta trip.

CN: Okay.

JH: There, it was just um CeeLo and his kind of crew and Janelle and.

ON: Who's Janelle?

JH: Janelle Monae.

CN: Okay.

JH: She's an incredible artist, she..she's a good friend of ah Prince you know, she?s just a
good artist.

CN: Okay, okay so the second show ends about what time do you think?
JH: It started at 10:30 or something, it was about an hour and a half show.
CN: Okay, okay so nothing else that you can think about remarkable during the show urn..

JH: Well he did say that um he joked about it after his last show and he was like man I
thought I was going to fall asleep on..up there. I was like.

CN: And, and what do you take that to mean, in your opinion do you think.

JH: I thought it was very strange.
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CN: Okay.

JH: I mean I, this again, when this, when he said that this..the incident hadn't happened yet
on the plane 50..

CN: Yeah.

JH: ..I had no, just thought that was weird, why would..you never would, like you?re so in

the moment on stage you would never fall asleep so I thought..  found that to be very out of
character for him to say something like that.

CN: Okay for the, for the, since 2014 since you?ve know him, that was out of character.

JH: Oh for the stage, yeah, you don?t.

CN: For the stage okay, okay.

JH: No, that?s when he?s most alive is on stage.

CN: Okay so um anything else you can think of before you guys leave the, leave the venue?
JH: Um I mean we just talked about, I mean yeah there was a lot of things about the music,
a lot of music business however is not what it used to be and just kind of discouraged about all
of that.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..it was more a conversation and that was along the lines of kind of after the first show,
just music is not, it?s not like, he?s like back in the day you know, it was this and that and we
were all like you just reminisce, reminiscing a lot about the heyday.

CN: Yeah.

JH: ..and then feeling like right now it?s like there?s no one else, he was the only one, it was
that kind of conversation.

CN: Okay a little depressing kind of huh?
JH: Oh yeah, yeah it was, it was, it was hard to see him in that state.
CN: Okay um how do you guys leave the venue?

JH: Ah we just, we go down to the elevator and we get into the SUV and we just um go back
to the airport.

CN: Okay so an SUV that picked you up from the airport, ah was that just, was that a service
out there that, just 

JH: Yeah.

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Did you know that person at all? The driver?

No.

That's not a usual..

No we always, whenever we fly to a city..

Yep.

..there?s always just some stranger driving us.

Okay so you didn't get the impression that Kirk or Prince knew the driver or..
No you know.

Okay, okay so the same driver, same SUV takes you back to the airport.
Yeah.

And who?s all in the SUV when you go back?

Um just Kirk, or I mean sorry, just Prince and I.

Okay, no Kirk?

No.

Okay how did Kirk get from the airport to the Atlanta venue?

Oh wait, was he sitting up front? I don?t think he was. I think, there?s always two, it?s, it?s,

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Okay.

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CN: 80 there?s more than, there?s more than one van that go from.

JH: ?Like two yeah.

CN: Like two that go from the airport to the venue.

JH: Yeah.

CN: ..and then from the venue back to the.

JH: Yeah I believe so.

CN: Okay and you, and you think maybe Kirk was in the other one?

JH: Yeah well there's only just Kirk was the only other person this time around so.
CN: Okay so..

JH: But I don?t remember Kirk being I you know, I don?t really, he might have been in the
front but. 

CN: Okay.

JH: ..most likely he wasn't.
CN: Okay.

JH: ..he was in the other one.

CN: Do you know, is there, is there a..my own ignorance, is there a..a reason if there is just
three of you traveling if there is two, two cars or is thatjust the way he likes it done or..

JH: I mean hejust, whenever I'm there it?s, it?s, it?s him and l.
CN: Okay so maybe it?s just a privacy thing or..

JH: Yeah.

CN: You guys are going to perform together or..

JH: Well yeah, I 

CN: Yeah I understand.

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay um so anything remarkableremarkable about the? trip back to the airport? If you
think about the ride back? .

JH: Um, he?s talking, he was in a more pep in his step.
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CN: Okay.

JH: Talks about oh man, favorite moment was first time seeing Fleetwood Mac and kind of
still reminiscing, it was all reminiscing.

CN: Yep.

JH: ..and very much like I was just so excited about that and but he was talking, he was
definitely, it seemed like he was in a better?

CN: Okay.

JH: ..better than he was before.

CN: Okay and you get back to the airport and anything, you get out of the SUV, you're there,
you?re at the airport, go through security, is Kirk there then when you..with you? Can you
remember when you go through security? 

JH: We don?t go?through security.

CN: Oh you 90..

JH: We go straight to the, on..on to the.

CN: Oh okay cause you're flying on, yeah, i get it.

JH: Yeah.

CN: 80 you are able to go straight to the plane.

JH: Yeah we just, yeah the SUV's just take us straight up and drive us straight to the..the
airport.

CN: Okay, gotcha, okay.

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay so who, who all then boards the plane to go back?

JH: Kirk, Prince and l.

CN: Okay and was it the same, the same flight crew that brought you there?
JH: Yeah, yeah.

CN: Okay, as far as you know the same pilots, same.

JH: Yeah, same lady.

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CN: Okay, same flight attendant. So take me through that then. You guys get on the plane
and..and what happens?

JH: Ah we get on the plane, kind of get settled, ah Kirk always sits in the front, he sits like if
the plane is that way and the pilots are this way, there?s a seat and he just faces the pilot and
then.. 

CN: Okay.

JH: ..then there?s the table and there?s two seats this way and then Prince and Prince sits
across directly from me and so it was that kind of thing and we talked a little bit but um he told
the stewardess we?re going to have something to eat and so she starts to prepare food, that
was the first time he was going to eat anything because he hadn?t eaten and he um, he goes to
the back of the plane um l?m still sitting this way and he goes to the back, there?s like another
couch type of thing.

CN: Yep.
JH: ..and um he, he?s like fiddling with his bag okay..
CN: Okay.

JH: ..um and then I didn?t really think much of it but he..oh no, he sat here first and talked to
me a little bit and he asked me um if I needed a cough drop cause was coughing and so I was
like no I?m okay, or no he?s like are you okay with your cough or whatever and was like yeah
I?m fine and then he goes and he stands up, he goes and he goes to the back of the plane and
fiddles with his bag, and he?s fiddling for a while and then he comes back and he hands me a
cough drop and I was like okay, thank you and then he goes back to his bag and he?s fiddling
with the bag for a while again and um finally he comes back to his table and um he?s talking
about you know, wants me to stay with him in Paisley Park for another day so we can like watch
movies you know, just hang out for a while.

ON: Yeah, okay.

JH: .Ah and then he says urn but we?ll see, I might need to sleep you know, get some rest
and was like yeah sure, you know whatever you need to do and that?s when it happened. He
ah, the lady had already brought him food out and he just took a couple bites and then ah..

CN: Okay.

JH: ..then he just looks down and um it looked like we were both going to kind of prepare to
sleep or whatever, I was he..his eyes were fixed and he just kind of looked down and
he kind of like did like one of these and like this again and then, and then just went like that.
GM: Okay.

JH: And I thought that was weird.

ON: Okay, let me ask you a couple of um specific questions. When you say the bag, can you

describe the bag that he?s fiddling with or fiddling in?
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JH: Yeah it?s a little like um black kind of, it?s kind of ah, a round top..

CN: Okay, okay.

JH: ..and then it?s a square, a little square kind of thing.

CN: Okay and is that um, do you know that to be his bag.

JH: It?s his bag.

CN: Is it a bag you?ve seen before?

JH: Yeah he always traveled with it.

CN: Okay so it?s. his travel bag.

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay and from the time he first went back and came back with a cough drop for you and
then I understand he went back to the bag again and then came back and then kind of nods off.
How much time are we talking about?

JH: It was, like the first time five minutes of fiddling.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..something like that and then came back with the cough drop and then went back and
then a little bit longer.. -

CN: Okay. 

JH: ..and then came back, something like that.

CN: Okay so maybe from the first time he fiddled with it, maybe ten minutes or..
JH: Yeah something like that, I mean..

CN: Okay.

JH: ..I think he might have even gone to the restroom, yeah, yeah but it was like around five,
ten minutes or something like that.

CN: Okay and is that the, is that the first time um on this trip that you?ve'noticed him doing
any..anything with his bag or fiddling with it?

JH: Yeah.
CN: Okay, okay and okay we can..so five to ten minutes and um you said he kind of nodded

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JH: Yeah.

CN: ..and then go on, what happened then?

JH: So he you know, he nods off and then I hear some water spilling, I look under the table
and he still has the water bottle in his hand and it?s spilling and I thought, I was like immediately
I go up and i went straight up to Kirk, I woke Kirk up and I said hey Kirk, i don?t know, i don?t
know.

CN: Okay was Kirk sleeping during this time?

JH: Yeah.
CN: Okay.
JH: was like I don?t know and so he gets up and he sits next to Prince and that?s when we

start..he shakes Prince, nothing. I was like, was like freaking out um we both got up, Kirk and I
and went straight to the cockpit and we?re like we got to like land, we have to land and so that?s
you know, he, he goes in, Kirk you know is telling them we gotta land we have an emergency
situation and then we get back and we?re still, he?s just holding Prince and he?s like Prince,
shaking him, no..no response. And was like is his heart beating and then he felt his chest and
he?s like yeah and was like okay and then he kept shaking him Prince, Prince, nothing and
then I ask again, is his heart beating and he felt it and he was like yeah but it?s irregular so it?s
getting like, time was not on our side and .um it was taking forever to descend but finally we
descended.

CN: Okay.
JH: Yeah.

CN: And what um, Ms. Hill, what..do you have any inkling of what?s going on or do you, are
you thinking something?

JH: I thought he was dead.

CN: Okay.

JH: was like he looked dead and was freaking, was just like..my heart was pounding,

that?s why I kept asking if his heart was beating cause he looked dead to me. was like he?s

not..he looks like lifeless, lifeless, like he?s, he?s not I mean I don?t know if you would call that
fainting, that?s not fainting, like he looks like not alive.

CN: Yeah there?s, there?s nothing there, there?s no..

JH: There?s nothing.

CN: ..no response, no..

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JH: Nothing, he?s just limp. He?s like, we?re shaking him and there?s nothing. So you know,
thank god you know, Prince or Kirk said his heart was still beating but I was like you know so,
but that was very scary.

CN: Okay, okay so the..and l?ll not to, l..l assume during all ofthis there?s a pilot and a co-
pilot, are they in the cockpit during this entire time? 

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay and the flight attendant ah..

JH: Yeah.

ON: ..from, from, from when you got on the plane you said she served some food um..
JH: Yeah.

CN: ..she was, what was she doing, normal flight attendant things?

JH: Yeah she was doing normal flight attendant things and yeah.
CN: Okay and Kirk was sleeping.

JH: Yeah.

Did he fall asleep shortly after you took off or..

H: Yeah, just in front, yeah right away.

CN: Okay and you said that?s typically when you fly..

JH: Yeah, yeah. I I

CN: ..he?ll sit in the front.

JH: Yeah he usually keeps to himself in the front.

CN: . Okay, okay so the plane is ah is finally getting down to the ground and what happens
next? 

JH: We finally land and then the paramedics come onto the plane and, and they?re very, to
me in my opinion they were moving too slow, I was like, they?re like okay we?ve heard that
someone?s unresponsive but oh they?re still alive, I was just..it was frustrating me..

CNzi Okay.

l'

JH: ..finally they?re like oh can we move this table and was like is the ambulance here and
they?re like they?re five minutes out so it was like okay so you know, then they're like oh can we
move this tablehis seat, I was like guys this is kind of an emergency

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like, so finally their like, someone just like picks, someone, everybodyjust kind of picks up a leg
and an arm and they all kind ofjust carry him out into the ambulance and get him onto the bed.

CN: Okay so the first two people that showed up were separate from the actual ambulance
showing up?

JH: Yeah they were like paramedics.
CN: Okay.

JH: ..they were not the ambulance.

ON: Okay, all right so you guys pick him up, you carry him out and you get him on the bed
In..

JH: Yeah.

CN: ..and they put him in the ambulance um do you all go in the ambulance or who goes in
the ambulance? 

JH: We all go.

ON: Okay.

JH: Yeah.

CN: And did um did you take anything with you from, from the plane? Were you guys flying
with luggage did you. 

JH: We had our luggage but I just took my purse.

CN: Okay. I

JH: And um Kirk carried his stuff.

CN: Kirk, Kirk?s stuff?

JH: N0, his..Prince?s stuff.

CN: - Oh Prince's stuff.

JH: Like his cane and his bag, he carried his stuff for him.

CN: Okay.

JH: Um into you know. 

CN: The ambulance.

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JH: ..and he and they said one person can sit um in the, next to the bed and one person can
sit in the front and I decided I would sit in the front.

CN: Okay.
JH: ..it was so traumatic for me to see this whole thing.
CN: Yeah.

JH: 80 um you know, they, they proceeded and they asked like did he take anything and
then Kirk said Percocet and so the guys were like well we?re, we?re guessing he took ah more
than one, I think they said something like that.

CN: Okay.

JH: And they?re like we think, we think, we think we know what we need to do here and then
they, they gave him something and then they were like okay there we go, there we go and was
like what?s happening, it?s like that?s what we thought and then I was like okay and then I get up
into the front and we start driving and they?re they keep telling Prince like..

CN: Okay so that?s, so you were in the back initially, this is taking place.

JH: Oh no, this..this was like ah when we were all standing around.

CN: Yep.
JH: ..ah before we had tooken our actual seatsi.
ON: Yep.

JH: ..they, they, they um hit him with the thing.

CN: Yep.

JH: ..and they were like.

CN: is this in the back of the, the ambulance?

JH: Yeah.
CN: Okay.
JH: I?m kind of still..Kirk and and everybody?s kind ofjust standing, we?re all standing in the

back of the ambulance. -
CN: Yeah.

JH: ..it hadn?t moved yet and he was just in the bed and they hit him with the thing and then,
then, then we got situated and Kirk decided to sit back there and I decided to sit in the front and
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CN: Okay.

JH: ..they were talking and they were like telling Prince you gotta cooperate with us, we?re
going to try and get you back and they um you know, and then his body started convulsing like
rapidly and I was like what is going on, they?re like it?s looking like it?s wearing off, we got to hit
him again and they hit him again and then these..the guys like hey, can..can we stop the
vehicle, we need to take a picture of his heart and all this is going on and I?m just like oh my
god, so finally like you know, they hit him again and it?s just a lot of chatter and then um finally
we get to the ambulance and we pull in and or to the emergency room um and we pull in um
and um then they open the, the doors and get out of my seat and open the..and they, they
pull him out and l, and see him and he?s like looking around and was like oh my god, thank
you, he?s alive like so whatever they did worked. I was like so..l really thought he was dead, I
was like I don?t know if he?s going to make it but he got through that and was so thankful.

CN: Okay urn let me take you back a little bit, when, when the ambulance crew asked what
he took and Kirk said Percocet.. .

JH: Uh-huh.

CN: ..did he say anything, anything else about that. What exactly did you hearthe
conversation from Kirk about, about what he took.

JH: He just said Percocet.

CN: Okay.

JH: That was it.

. CN: Did they ask him how many? Did Kirk have a response?

JH: No, I don?t think so, I don?t remember correctly, I?m not 100% but I don?t think he said he
took two or three or what..  don?t think he gave a number.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..they were the ones that were like no offense guys, but we think he?s like taken.. I
I CN: Yep.

JH: ..-several or something like that?s what they were saying to us.

CN: Okay and did Kirk have a response to that?

JH: No it was just, we were all just like yeah, it was a lot going on but that was, that "was the
end of that conversation.

CN: Okay um..

Unk: Just to ask, was this all news to you that he was taking Percocet?

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JH: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CN: Yeah.

JH: Yeah, lwas like.

CN: And we can talk about that now since you brought it up.
Unk: Sure.

CN: What?s your knowledge of Prince?s use of medications, supplements, any you know,
whatever it might be? -

JH: I had no idea he was taking anything.

CN: Okay.

JH: . The only thing I knew he would do is those 5 Hour Energy drinks.
CN: Yep.

JH: ..he did a lot of those.

CN: Okay.

JH: Other than that had no idea. This was news. This was the first time I?ve ever
experienced anything like this with him.

CN: Okay and how many times roughly do you think you've been with Prince, I mean in
person, with him over the.

JH: Oh..
CN: ..couple of years or a year and a half, i forget what the..the..

JH: Yeah it was like that, something like that.

CN: Okay.

JH: i would be there for like two weeks straight.

CN: Yeah.

JH: ..and I?d go home to LA. about a week or two and I?d come back.
CN: Okay.

JH: ..it would be for like two weeks again.

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CN: Yep.

JH: . be there, stuff like that.

CN: Okay.

JH: Just kind of that.

CN: So you, you, you saw him a lot. I mean if you..
JH: Yes. I

CN: You stayed at Paisley and during these two week stints during all these times you've
seen him you had no idea that he was taking drugs. -

JH: Right.
ON: ..or prescriptions or..
JH: Right.
CN: Okay.
JH: Yeah.

Unk: You never saw him take any pills ever?
No I never saw that ever, I mean I didn?t even see any pills laying around anywhere.

CN: Did anyone ever talk to you or mention to you about Prince taking pills or any, anything
about that?

JH: No.

CN: Anything about pills or drugs or prescriptions or..
JH: No pills or prescriptions, nothing.

CN: Okay anything else, illicit drugs.

JH: Any, oh no, no, nothing, nothing like illicit drugs or anything. The only thing he would do
is like drinking some cognac sometimes, like little shots of cognac.

CN: Okay so he wasn't a big drinker either?
JH: No, no, no, no.
CN: Okay.

JH: Just sometimes cognac. -
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CN: Okay so no, we won?t beat a dead horse, no..no pill knowledge?
JH: No.

CN: Okay so you?re at the hospital now and you?re going in and anything remarkable there or
what?s taking place or what are you hearing?

JH: Well a lot, Well I mean the doctors come in, um there was a lot of discussion about, I?m
trying to remember what happened first. First they ask him if he?s okay and then he says he?s
cold and they give him blankets and things like that and, and then um ah their, their conc..their
main initial concern is we need to find out what you?ve taken and um they were like we cannot
let you leave this hospital unless we know what you?ve taken because you could die depending
on what it is, you could be some really crazy drug we don?t know of and we don?t, we can?t.

CN: Yep.

JH: I . ..so urn so Kirk openedthe bag to search in there to like see-if there?s anything and we,
he opened the bag, looks through and there was nothing and then, and then again, and then
while Prince was awake and more conscience he Says to um he says to us there is something
else, it?s..it?s in the, it?s in the urn now it was like some herbal container'like what you would think
of like as bayless or garlic or something you would get at Whole Foods.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..I forget but it was like bayless inside the bag and um he?s like it?s in the bayless so Kirk
opens the bag again, Opens it up, looks at it..

CN: Do you'have those pictures? I can show these to you first if you?d like. Um well they?re in
the stack there, okay so first of all, that is, who is that?

JH: lt?s- Kirk.

CN: Okay and that?s you? It looks like you right?

JH: Yeah. 

. CN: Okay and this is Mr. Nelson and you probably, and I?m sorry, I don?t mean to upset you..
JH: That?s the, yeah.

CN: That?s the bag we?re talking about? Okay. All right enough with that, Ms. Hill I don?t
mean to upset you.

JH: No, no, that?s.

Unk: Ms. Hill, did.,did Mr. Nelson always carry his bag with himself or did someone always
carry it for him?

JH: He always carried it.

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Unk: Always carried it.

JH: Yeah.

Unk: Okay.

Unk: Just for um, just a question um so the trip to Atlanta was just, you left that day 'forthe
shows that night and then you were coming back that night, did he have any other luggage with
him apart from this, this bag? Meaning Prince? -

JH: Um did he have his big suit.;suitcase?

Unk: I?m just wondering, did he have luggage, did he have to change for the show or anything
like that?

JH: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Unk: And he brings that stuff? Not..not his people?

JH: No, no the, the um the other people they, they carry-our luggage.
CN: Okay.

JH: It goes into the..the luggage compartnfient of the..of the plane.
Unk: But as far as what he?s carrying for is essentially what is a day trip.
Jl-l: Yeah it?s always the little bag and the cane.

Unk: Okay.

JH: Always.

CN: Either of those bottles?

JH: Yeah, yeah.

CN: That was the bottle?

JH: that?s..that was, that was the one.

CN: Okay the Bayer bottle.

JH: They bay..yeah, thought it was bayless, but yeah.

CN: Bayer, okay, okay so.. I

JH: ..yeah, yeah.

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CN: ..so Prince was looking through his bag and saying or 
JH: Kirk?s was looking, oh sorry, go ahead.

CN: ..um who told you or what did you overhear when, when they said look in the, the Bayer
bottle, who was saying that? .

JH: Ah Prince.

CN: Prince was saying that, okay.

JH: Prince was telling us.

CN: Prince was telling you, okay. 

JH: Prince was telling Kirk and he?s like it?s in the Bayer.
CN: Okay.

JH: ..and then Kirk opened the Bayer and asked Prince where did you get these? And Prince
didn?t answer.

CN: Okay and did you see what was in there? What..what was inside?

JH: No so they took, so the doctors were like okay we?re going to test these to figure out
what these are because we need to ?find out..

CN: Okay.

JH: ..so they run a little test and they, they say it?s like okay, so there like all right, this is not,
this is like another, it has Tylenol in it, it?s like another versionof pain pill or Percoc..or whatever,
it shouldn?t, basically her point was this should not have put you in like the state you were in so
obviously you?re overdosing on Tylenol, we got to..we got to figure out what?s going on with
your, your kidney and your liver, that was their whole point because it?s very outrageous what
happened to you, that?s what her point was.

GM: Okay and this is the female doctor?

JH: Yes.

CN: Who said, okay, was.

JH: Yeah, yeah.. .

CN: ..who?s having, who?s having the conversation and how was Mr. Nelson responding?
JH: He?s um, he does not want to take the test.

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JH: She?s like we want to take the test, we have these tests that we recommend and he?s
like no test, and then Kirk says no test and was like. so she?s like okay, just to let you know,
and again she?s like this is like, it is very important that you know, you understand the risks to
this and she goes into it and she?s like I?m going to leave the room and let you think about it and
so she does that, and she does it a few times you know.

CN: Okay so what?s the conversation when she leaves the room just between you guys, what
conversation is happening about what?s taking place?

JH: Well ori..initially it was, Kirk was in the room and he just said stuff like you know, we
can?t keep doing this and..to Prince and he?s like we?re here for you brother and all that, so there
was no discussion about you should take this test, right.

CN: Okay.

JH: But then Kirk left and. it was juSt me and Prince and that?s the rest of the night, i stayed
with him and l, and um, I said I?m very concerned, you know, you don?t want to take these tests
and the doctors are saying this is very important you know.

CN: Uh?hum.

JH: ..and, and he?s like I know, he?s like I know, l?m concerned too, I want to know what?s
going on with my body too, I just can?t do these tests here, i have to get back home and l..l
promise once I get back home I?ll take these tests.

CN: Okay.

JH: i said okay, you know like his main concern'l think was the records being there, he
wanted to be..he?s like I just need to get home, I was like okay so you?re going to take the tests
when you get home, okay, cause but I like.. I just couldn?t believe like 'do you not care? Like why
do you not want to take these tests like, and I know it was a huge issue about drawing blood
and all that, but he said he would do them when he gets home and was like okay, so
you?re..okay, so that was what he told me. 1

CN: Okay, so there was, just so l?m straight, cause this is important stuff for us um, there was
first some, theyasked the, the doctor asked him if he would take a test and was Prince the first
one to say no he doesn?t want to take it, was Kirk the first one to say no he?s not taking it, was.

JH: Ah Prince.

CN: Prince okay, and then Kirk also said no he?snot taking them as.

JH: Yeah, as..as a confirmation to her.

CN: Okay, okay and then you said Kirk left and do you know where he went or..

JH: Yeah he was in the..the lobby ah there was another like lobby area and he was making
calls and things like that.
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JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay so Prince says that he'll urn take the tests when, when you get home,
any..anything else that?s remarkable while you?re at the hospital? Any other..any more
conversation?

JH: Yeah lots of conversations, I mean he explained what happened to his body, he?s like I
left..my soul left, I could hear you, could hear everybody talking and I kept saying how am I
going to get back to my body and it was the hardest thing um he expl..it was very vivid, I mean I
can go into detail about what itwas that he experienced um on..on the, on his side of it..

CN: Okay.

JH: ..and he felt like he needed to express that and then I was like you know, I was like so,
so definitely no more of these pills right, you know what I said to him and
he's like, I can?twell he?s like, no he said something like well then that means I can't perform
because my hands are hurting. My hands hurt and l..that was the first I ever heard him say,
cause this was the first time I think he was saying he was banging on the piano and that usually
is the guitar, this piano tour I think was getting to his hands and so that..and then I was like well
there was more discussion, he's like, he?s like no, I think it'sjust because I mixed the two, I
won?t do that anymore, he?s like I know my body well, I know l..l?m a pretty good judge of..of my
body, but he?s like it?s because I mixed the two. said well she?s saying you?re overdosing on

- Tylenol perhaps like that your kid..so I?m trying to explain to him like no, your organs and this
and that you know, and he?s, he?s con..he started to go down the line of like so what did they
give me? He started really getting obsessed with that and he started saying you know, he?s like
you know, it?s one thing if'..if it?s my, my decision and if it?s anything I did, it?s..that?s one thing,
but if someone else is interfering..interfering and they give me something and we don?t know
what it is, how it affects the chemistry of whatever else is in my body right now, so we need to
find out what they gave me cause all of these you know, this tornado that I experienced, that
happened only when they gave me that shot, he?s like on the plane I was only dreaming, ljust
had a dream about there were two sides of people choosing but l..he was like I would have
waken up and was  ike..and he?s like no, I would have woken up, so he started to kind of
rationalize, he?s like but wh.en..it was they gave me that thing, that?s when it started to go
haywire, so we need to find out what they did to me, and I?m thinking well they saved like you
huh like, so, but I didn?t want to argue with him because he?s getting very passionate about it so
I was like okay, keeping him calm, was Iike..he was like can we find out the name of what they
gave me, and I said figure" it out and we?ll ask and he?s..so that was where he was
going down the line of it and you know, he..so that, that was a lot ofthe conversation about the
drugs. Then there was more like spiritual conversation about.

CN: Okay.
JH: ..other things you know.

GN: When he said though, you said that..that he told you that he thought it was that he mixed
the two.

JH: Yeah.

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ON: 

JH: Yes.

..did he elaborate any more on that, like he mixed two different pills or..
JH: Percocet and this other thing in the Bayer, just..

CN: Okay.

JH: ..whatever that was, he was like, it's probably cause, 'oh and he also, he did say he took
two of the ones in the Bayer.

CN: Two of the ones in the Bayer, and what did he say about the Percocet?

JH: He didn?t say how much he took of the Percocet. 

Unk: But he did say that he took them.

JH: He didn?t say he took Percocet, he said it was that I mixed the two.

Unk: Okay.

JH: So I, I knew it was ?Percocet because of what Kirk said earlier that it was Percocet. 
Unk: Okay. I

JH: So, and we didn?t know what this other thing was in the Bayer so, but in his mind he was
like no, it?s cause I mixed the two, that?s why this happened.

CN: Okay did they, do you know, did the hospital test anything else orjust the..the one out of
the Bayer bottle.

JH: Just the one out of the Bayer.

CN: Okay.
JH: Yeah.
CN: Okay.

Unk: (inaudible) there was a conversation that all three of you had, I just want to go back to it
a little bit, Kirk said something, we can?t keep on doing this. What was..what did they, what did
he mean by that, or what do you think he meant by it, or do you know what he meant tried to ask questions later and people said that, and Trevor-and some
other people did say that something?similar to this happened a couple of years ago so um I
didn't ask Kirk specifically what that meant, but in my mind it..it was like okay this has
happened, and later on lwas in the..the lobby and Kirk was like, hejust looked at me, he?s like I
have a feeling this has been going on for a long time and he?s been hiding this. He was like, this

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probably has been dated back from when he had that hip surgery. He was like, he was like, he
was limping while he was sick that week, he was limping and..and he kept you know, he just
was like speculating like this might have been going on for a while, but l..l didn't ask him about
what he meant by um we can't keep doing this. Um, but he was just talking to me about how he
just felt like he?s been doing a good job hiding this, he?s like..he?s like it all makes sense, like all
these mood swings, like he was kind of like piecing it together. Kirk was like you knew, and l,
yeah. 

CN: Okay. Um anything else that Prince told you other than, and l..you don?t need to get into
the spiritual stuff with me and 

JH: Okay.

CN: 1..um or if it was anything superpersonal but, if..if it has something to do with um what he
had taken or drugs bl" even if he?s um depressed or things like that we would be interested in but
meaning i don?t want to pick your brain.

JH: Yeah.
CN: ..if it was super personal stuff but anything else with Prince?

JH: Um, I mean there?s a lot of like, that was the mountain top, talking about the Atlanta
show, now I can go away and rest and things like that. 

CN: Okay.

JH: Um but in..in terms of like pills, i think that was?it, think..l mean ljust kept explaining to
him, reiterating to him, that the doctors, what the doctors kept saying, cause ljust don?t think he
was getting it, i was like.. . . . 

CN: Yeah.

JH: They?re say..you know, we need to figure out what's happening with your organs, that
was my main thing, I was like um, but he never really you know, when we first got there and we-
got into the room he just kind of looked at Prince, or Kirk and l, was like, and he was like sorry
guys, you know and we?re like huh, you know, why are you apologizing so, but as far as like pills
and drugs no.

CN: Okay and then any other conversations that you had with Kirk about this, you know, that
day while were..while you were in Atlanta? -

JH: He just kept you know, Kirk was like, what did he..is he okay, like he was checking in
with me a lot cause. . -

CN: Okay.
JH: Um how?s he doing, what?s he saying, kind of that kind of thing.
CN: Okay.

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JH: But um I mean we yeah, we had conversation about like, was just like he's tripping off
of what they gave him and like going down that rabbit hole and we were..and he was like oh my
god, why, it's like he finds a..a rational..a way of thinking, Prince gets locked in and then that?s
when it goes that way, and so we were more just like discussing that but um..

CN: Any..anything more with Kirk about past drug use or prescription use or you had
mentioned that Kirk said something to you that I think this has maybe been going on longer,
anything more? . -

JH: Yeah I mean he was like, I think this has been going on longer, and he?s like, he?s like i
finally got him. to see my doctor like two weeks ago or something, he?s like he would..it was, it
was like a big thing like finally, cause it?s just hard to get Prince to do anything you know, but
that was about it you know. -

CN: Okay anything more, anything more about um his doctor then, about Kirk and Prince and
the doctor, any more conversation about that?

JH: No he just said itjust was like, I finally got him to. see my doctor.
CN: Okay. I

JH: ..and that was like a big victory that was kind of..

CN: Okay.

JH: ..that was it with that.

Okay, um any, any more talk about Percocet specifically with Kirk while you were there?

JH: NO.

ON: Okay or the,.the mystery drug in the Bayer?

JH: No.

CN: Okay.

Unk: How about after?

JH: After the hospital?

Unk: After the hospital, after um after Prince's passing ah..

Oh, yeah I haven?t spoken to Kirk about any of that stuff since, yeah, there?s been

no..we, we haven?t spoken about like the drugs and all but he just, when we were in Paisley for
the little, little private memorial, you know, Kirk was just like talking about, he?s just like it all

. makes sense now, like..he just kept saying that like he knew this whole time, that?s what he kept

saying, it was just like..and telling him about how you know, he?s..he was just saying you know,
we're planning these summer shows and he..he would say to Kirk like if I?m not there you?ll still

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do it, right? That kind of stuff where it was getting really like whoa, like his statements were
saying.

CN: Who, who would say that?-

JH: Prince.

CN: Prince would say that if l?m not there.

JH: You?ll still do these, these shows right? I mean those are just crazy statements.

CN: 80 some of the things that you?re, that you?re telling us, I mean does..l hate the word, I
hate to use the word suicidal, but does Prince kind of seem depressed and like he?s.

JH: Well it was fifty fifty for me..
CN: Okay.

JH: ..because he did show, I mean he, Phaedra said that he took the tests and they took
blood and everything on like Tuesday or something, that was a huge victory like he never would
so he was definitely trying and he wanted it, but I think that there was a lot of his statements
were also like accepting that he might not make it, it was that kind of stuff so i, l, l..the first thing
I did when i got back to Minneapolis and you know, we..l stayed with Prince a little bit after that,
we went up and watched movies and things and..and he was like you know you?re not saying
this to anything..anybody right now and was like yeah, okay I?ll keep it confidential. But I called
Phaedra right away, was like man he almost died, I told her, was like..and she was like what?
She was just like..he told me he was sleeping on the plane and that I know Judith is concerned
but like it was like nothing like he was giving a whole nother story and um..

Unk: And who?s Phaedra?

JH: Phaedra is like, she?s been running his affairs for a lot of things, like all his business you
know, for a while.

Yeah.

So um, but you know, yeah there was as lot of it was like you know like what he said in
the..the hospital you know, if it?s on me, then it?s on me, kind of like. 

CN: Okay, just to not leave our chronological kind of route I?ve been taking us.
JH: Right.
CN: ..so you fly home, you get back on..is it a different plane? Same plane?

JH: . It was a different plane, oh wait, yeah they couldn?t..they needed a different plane
because the crew had left so we got another flight. .

CN: Okay anything ah that you would consider remarkable on the flight home, any
conversations, any.

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JH: Ah everything was like more like he was making jokes about it like.
CN: Okay.
JH: ..he?s like I promise l?m sleeping Judith, that kind of thing.

CN: Okay, no..no specific conversations about what he had taken or anymore conversations
about where he got what he took or..

JH: None of that.
CN: ..none ofthat, nothing with Kirk and he?

JH: . No, ?Kirk was like..he's like you?re going on a vase, he was like, Kirk was like yes, I'm
going on a cruise, that kind of thing, it was that kind of thing.

CN: Okay, okay so no um nothing else remarkable? You get back to Minneapolis.
JH: Yeah get back to Minneapolis ah and we were just together. -
CN: Okay and is there a car waiting there then at the airport to take you guys back?
JH: . Yeah. I

CN: Okay and did all you guys go in the same car or?

JH: No it was just Prince and again.

CN: Prince and you, okay and Kirk rode in a different car..

Jl-l: Yeah, yeah.

CN: Okay um that black bag um that we showed you the picture of, where did that..where did
that black bag go, do you remember? 

JH: don?t even-remember. I don?t even know. I?m assuming that it was with Prince at that
point, oh he had his cane, we walked out, yeah he had his cane and out of the hospital, it was
like he was back to having his stuffl think.

Okay, okay and you said earlier that that bag is Prince's, that?s his.

JH: Yes that?s his bag.-

CN: ..that?s his bag, okay. Um and he typically, he..he has it with him? He controls it?

JH: Yeah.

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JH: No that?s his bag.

CN: Okay.

JH: Yeah.

CN: ..okay so you and Prince um drove back to Paisley then?

JH: Yeah he drops me off at the hotel, he goes to Paisley, like shower whatever and then

i meet him for lunch at Paisley.

CN: Okay. And um how was he then? How was he doing then?-

JH: He?s really calm, he?s kind of..he didn?t eat much, he never did ah he?s just kind-of very
calm but he?s talking about, he?s gotta shake this off, he?s got to get on stage or something and
he was going to plan a party to make sure everyone knows he?s all right.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..and then we go upstairs to his bedroom and just watch like movies and things like that.
CN: Okay when you say his bedroom um which, which room is thatupstairs, it?s just directly above next to the stairs, you go in this little foye..
CN: Yeah.

JH: ..and then there?s this bedroom.

CN: Is it green?

Unk: The green room?

JH: The green room.

Unk: The green room.

JH: The green room.

CN: Yeah the green room, okay and do you know that to be his bedroom?

JH: Yeah.

CN: ls that..that?s where he stays, that?s where he sleeps?

JH: Yes.

CN: Um yeah up the stairs, so that?s..that?s..that?s the room that leads into, the bedroom-this
is kind of like a sitting room and I guess back here there would be a bed.

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JH: Yes;

CN: Okay and bright green?

JH: Yes.

CN: Okay when you guys were hanging out, any..any conversations about um the pill stuff or
anymore.

JH: No more, no more pill stuff.

CN: Okay.

JH: it?s all just kind of others like life and just what we?re watching like documentariesand
shows, documentary and things like that.

CN: Okay.

JH: Just completely unrelated to what just happened.

CN: Okay um do you know, did um did he like to cover like his TV when he wasn?t watching it
with a sheet or something do you know? 

JH: Uh-hum.

CN: Okay that was, that?s typical.

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay.

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay anything else about the room or um..

JH: No pills in the room ever.

CN: No?

JH: Never, his..l mean his bathroom is so simple, it?s like Listerine, toothpaste, like nothing.
CN: Yep not a medicine cabinet.

JH: No, no medicine cabinet, nothing like..nothing.

CN: Okay.

JH: But you know, he would always leave in the middle of the night.

CN: Okay.

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JH:  mean..

CN: And 90.. 
JH: I always assumed it was his computer.
CN: Okay.

JH: i don?t know.

Unk: What side of the bed did he sleep on?

JH: What?

Unk: What side of the bed did he sleep on?

JH: Ah there?s a humid..there's a the..there?s a the side where the telephone is.
Unk: Okay so if you?re laying in bed it would be the left side.

Unk: As you..

JH: What?

Unk: If you?re laying in his bed or if he was laying in the bed it would be his left side.

JH: I?m so bad with,?it?s where the ah the phone is.
Unk: Okay.

JH: It?s ah, it's on the bathroom side.

Unk: Okay.

CN: if you?re, if you're standing facing the bed and the beds right in front of you, it?s on
the..the right side. If you?re facing the bed.

JH: Yes, yes.

CN: Okay um do you know, you mentioned he would go to his computer or whatnot, do you
know what, what ah computer he typically used?

JH: Yeah he was..it was a, it was his office. He would get up, he'd go and do emails.
CN: Okay.
JH: He was always leaving though.

CN: Always leaving the bedroom or the..

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ni?hunever sleeps through the night.

Okay.

But l..it was always either to the computer room-or something like that.
Okay and that, the computer room or is that the office then?

Yes.

80 it would be like a, the desktop.

Yes.

..computerthere. Um any other computers that you. know that he used or..
No.

Okay you never saw him using laptops?

Oh yeah, on the road.

On..on the road, okay.

Yeah there?s a little thin, thin laptop.

Okay, do you know, how would you describe that one?

It?s thin, it's almost like an Airbook, its very.

Okay.

..very thin laptop.

Gray like an Airbook? Gray and thin?

Yeah, yeah like a gray, yeah.

And that one you'd bring on the road?

Yeah.

Okay do you know um, did he have a cell phone?

No. I

Okay, do you..did he ever have a cell phone since you?ve known him?

Not since I, not since I, no.

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CN: Okay do you know how he communicated with people?

JH: Mainly through email but calling.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..from landlines if he wanted to talk to you.

CN: Okay is that how he would speak with you..

JH: Yeah.

ON: ..or communicate with you, he'd call you?

JH: Mainly yeah, call me..

CN: Okay.

JH: I ..email talk and then he?d call me.
CNzi Okay what email address would you receive emails from him at?
JH: - Thmit?s like. I.

CN: Yep, yell?

JH: Yep.

CN: 

JH: yeah.

CN: Okay any other email addresses?

JH: No.
CN: Okay.
JH: I mean he would email me sometimes through Twitter.

CN: Okay do you remember what his ah what his Twitter name was?

JH: Oh like the address? don?t..itjust always said Prince or @3rdeyegirl but then he
changed it to @Prince.

CN: Okay.
JH: Right.

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CN:
JH:
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JH:

Okay um how about text messaging? 
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Okay any type of messaging? Any type of Instagram ah..

Ah no. For me it wasjust the email, calling ah sometimes he would..he would call

wherever i would be, he would just where are you and get the number, it was mainly my cell
phone but if was at a hotel or stuff like that he would get it on then Twitter,

CN:
JH:
CN:
JH:
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JH:
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Unk:

JH:

Unk:

JH:

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Unk:

JH:

Okay did he, did he use other people's cell phones to communicate do you know?
He used my cell phone to..whenever he needed to get to Kirk or something.

Okay. I

He would call and tell me to call Kirk or something like that.

Okay, and..and would these usually be voice calls or..

Yeah oh he?d call me and and say tell Kirk we need this or that, that kind of thing.
Okay um do you remember ah a red laptop computer at all ever?

No. -

Okay um what else about communications.

Were you ever in his office?

Oh yeah all the time.

Okay. Where, where was the..was it a computer tower that he used?

It was like yeah ah, yeah.

Okay and the office we're talking about is the larger one that is close to the entrance.
Yeah, yeah.

..the main.

..upstairs.

..oh it was upstairs.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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Unk: Okay.
JH: Upstairs there's a piano in there, I don?t know if there is now but.
Unk: Okay.

JH: ..ah there's a couch, there?s the desk, a computer, I think there are even two screens ah,
l?m not sure but then I think there was a tower. 

Unk: Okay.

CN: Yeah up along the wall where there's several doors all down that hallway.
JH: Yeah, it was the first.. I

CN: Yeah the office, kind of the first one.

JH: Yeah.

CN: ..okay and so that?s where, do you think, in your experience that's where he did most of
is emailing from or..

JH: Yeah, in my experience yeah.

CN: Okay, how about when he was on the road, was he emailing people with the laptop or..
JH: Yeah he would email still.

CN: Okay.

JH: He was still in touch.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..I think it was through the laptop.

CN: Okay and again but as far as you know um with like chat type stuff, lMessage, all that
type of..

JH: Yeah, no, no.

CN: Okay, okay so we were talking kind of about that night and you said he never slept
through the night and he would get up and use the computer.. -

JH: I wasn?t um I wasn?t with him that night, i left um, I?m just talking about in general.
CN: Yeah, yeah.

JH: But left that day, I left um, I stayed with him upstairs and we watched a few movies and

then my flight was that evening.

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CN: Okay on..on the 15*? your..
JH: Yeah, yeah.

CN: Okay.

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay and you said that he was talking to you about he wants to do a show or throw a
party and show people.

JH: Yeah.

CN: 

JH: Yeah which was the next day, yeah.
CN: ..next day okay.

JH: He wanted me totweet that was in the show at the show and everything was amazing
just to..

CN: Okay and that what I was going to askanyone ask you to. .to
say anything about that trip to Atlanta or..

JH: Yeah he wanted me to say he] was at the show and that it was great.
CN: Okay.
JH: ..so he could retweet it to show people things were?

CN: Okay so he wanted you to tweet on the 15th about the show that he did the night before
that everything was good

JH: Yeah, yeah.

CN: Okay, so I think at 2:50 in the afternoon on the 15th you did have a tweet that said.
JH: Yeah, yeah.

CN: ..it was a good show and okay.

JH: Right, yeah.

CN: Okay um so you leave Paisley, you catch your flight home, anything else about this trip,
and you told us a lot

JH: Yeah.

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CN: ..and you?re, and you?re doing great.

JH: Um drug related, I can't think of..of anything.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..about that trip you know, or in general, I mean.
CN: Okay.

JH: mean I could, yeah about that trip, yeah.

CN: Okay ah anybody..so after this happens and the plane has to land, did anyone else
contact you or talk to you about what to say or what should we do about this onljust called Phaedra and told her..
CN: Yep.

JH: ..what was up, that was about it. Ah oh yeah, I mean Prince was trying to get ahold of

- Kirk, what?s that for}. i.t was something like, i don't remember why he wanted to get a hold of

Kirk, I .it must have been something small, but he wanted to find out what the name of thIs
drug was that they gave him.

ON: Oh, okay.

JH: ..that was like a thing and he got, Kirk got the name of it and stuff like that so he wanted
Phaedra to investigate it.

CN: Okay did Kirk tell you that he got the name of it or Kirk..

JH: Yeah he had writ..we wrote it down, got it from the doctor when we were in the.
CN: Oh, okay before you left?

JH: Yeah.

CN: Okay, okay um did you then in this next week have more conversations with Prince? Did
you talk to him more?

Jl-l: We stayed in..in touch.
CN: Okay.
JH: Through email, there was a lot of emails going back and forth..

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CN: Okay.

JH: ..and he just kept me abreast about everything, like hey I went bike riding today, this and
that, the party, I told him you know this and that and showed them my guitar, whatever, just. .just
telling me and a lot of discussion about my music, I had a new record and he was excited for me
and things like that.

CN: Okay um nothing about..about his ah future care or anything about what he was going to
do you know, with this..this problem that kind of had you know, come to light?

- JH: Um well I just kept, was like telling Phaedra make sure he goes to the doc, like that
was.;but from him I didn't push it, he onlyjust..these last words from me is you know, something
tells me or it feels like yourstay here was too short, that?s what he told me. .

CN: Okay, okay how about um from Kirk or Meroh or Phaedra, any conversations that you
had with them about what to do or what should be done 

JH: Well Phaedra said, she was like so he did reach..he did tell Meron to set up an
appointment for the doctor, that?s what she was telling me um mean my conversation with
Phaedra, we were going back and forth about what to do.. .

CN: Okay.

JH: ..and was just trying to..l was like, well you got..you have to..he has to take the tests,
he said he would do them once he got home.

CN: Okay.

JH: ..you know, so it was that kind of conversation. Meron text me and was like that must
have been so traumatic for you, you know, that was..it was..that was about it from her..

CN: Yep.
JH: 

CN: Were you part of any urn conversations about the ah..ah is it Recovery Without Walls?
Doctor Kornfeld?

JH: Well yeah, i mean, I mean after his passing you know, Phaedra?s like we were'doing
everything, we even got..after your call like we went, we got you know detox, we got him on a
pro..we were, it was like and he took the tests and so she was just like devastated cause she
was like I don't know what happened, we were doing everything based upon like what we knew
you know, but she. 

CN: Yeah.

JH: ..didn?t specifically tell me. think for me, I had to clarify with her through text after my
phone conversation with her that, cause I was like he wasn't breathing, like that was my thing,
like he was almost..he was dead like in my mind and then I was-like wait, was he breath..cause

was like maybe he was breathing so I was like, text Kirk, was like was he breathing and he
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was like yeah he was breathing, I was like okay and I had to clarify that with Phaedra like he
was breathing I guess, it didn?t look like it, but that kind of thing.

ON: Okay.

Unk: But you didn?t have any role in setting up the..the Doctors Without Borders intervention.
JH: No. i 

Unk: ..you, you left it to Phaedra to coordinate that.

JH: Yeah Phaedra, yeah.

Unk: ..oh Phaedra, I?m sorry.

JH: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CN: Okay the last time um that you spoke or had communication with Prince was on what
day?

JH: Monday.

CN: lVlonday, okay.

JH: Yeah. 

CN: Okay, okay anything else guys about the trip?
Unk: Yeah, um the second body guard.

JH: Yeah.

Unk: ..was that a body guard that would often travel or not travel or..

JH: He was um, he started to um in the last few months, I had seen him. .that was my second
time seeing him, he was?

Unk: Do you know what his name was?

JH: I forget his name um he did the DC show and then I think he was traveling with Prince-
for some other stuff recently.

Unk: Older guy, younger guy?
JH: Older.

Unk: White guy, black guy?

JH: Black guy, yeah.

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How old do you think he was?

Late 50?s? Something like that.

Did you ever see him at Paisley?

No, he was always like on the road person.

Okay.

Yeah.

And you just saw him the last few, few times?

Yeah, yeah. 

Okay.

Yeah.

Who would know his name? I think we might know his name, but who.
Oh Kirk..Kirk would know.

Kirk knows, okay.

Okay.

I think we know who it is, but okay.

Um when you said you were at the concert um the owner of Electric Fetus.
Yeah, he was like the son of the owner or someone, something something like that.
So he?s the son of the owner, so th?ere..was there one or two people?
It was one, one person.

One, one person.

He invited him to the show.

Okay.

..to come back stage to talk about..he?s like I wanted you to see this show so you could

see what we do here and that kind of thing and.

Unk:

JH:

What was, do you remember what his name was?

I don't.
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Okay.

He was a younger guy.

Like what age?

Maybe like. in his thirties um he?s yeah, he?s part of Electric Fetus.

Okay.

And we?re talking Electric Fetus in Minneapolis?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Um..

And he?s maybe the owner?s son..

Something like that like he wasn?t the main guy, he was like a part of Electric Fetus.
Okay did anybody say that he was the owners son or..

How did I know..um what, oh my god, was it Prince or him, i don?t remember who. said it.

Okay but you knew, somehow you knew it was potentially was the son of the, of the

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, he was either..he was in charge or son or whatever, something like that.
Does Kirk know him?

I don?t know.

Okay.

I don?t think, I mean maybe, I have no idea, I have no idea.

Okay.

Okay um what were the two other..Meron, did you know Meron?

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JH: Yeah.

Unk: How long was Meron with Prince?

JH: She came on around the same time I did.

Unk: Okay.

JH: She was a new assistant, actually I knew um Mariah was the assistant before her..
Unk: Okay.

JH: oame in around the time Mariah was still the assistant and then she was new so
around like early beginning of 2015 or something.

Unk: Okay and what did, what did Meron do?

JH: She was his assistant so she would do everything from get him food every day, things
like that ah travel with him, whatever needed to happen. But when um, yeah, I mean their roles
kind of got more intense as the time..because Phaedra stepped out for a second.

Unk: Um..

JH: ..she went on and that's when Meron had more on her plate, like had to run more and
Trevor was running the label but then he got, he stepped out so then at the end it was like
Meron, then I think Phaed..he got Phaedra back in the game.

Unk: Uh?hum.

JH: ..so her role has been from the beginning it was like personal assistant, then she had to
handle more, then she handled a little bit more so she?s yeah.

Unk: Urn pretty Close to Prince or with Meron or was itjust really more of a just..it wasjust
business and they weren?t.

JH: Well she, she tells me that it was just..nothing?s happened with them.
Unk: Okay um, um..

CN: Do you know Mariah?s last name?

JH: I don?t.

CN: How about Trevor?

JH: Guy.

CN: Trevor Guy.

Unk: The Welton?s. Do you know who they are?

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JH: They?re very..yeah.

Unk: Okay tell me a little bit about them um their connection.

JH: Oh they're um well Hannah was his drummer..

Unk: Okay.

JH: . ..and. Joshua is ah did a lot of production in, on the records and was also auxiliary
keyboardist in the show so they had a big role, they were very close to Prince. Prince liked them
a lot. They..he thought they were like his kids.

Unk: Okay. 

JH: Yeah.

Unk: And..any..ever discussion, disparaging discussions between the other staff about them
or concerns about them .

JH: No I think it was difficult when Hannah decided to have a baby and that?s when
3rdeyegirl kind of fell apart.

Unk: Okay.
. .JH: ..and I know he really wanted 3rdeyegirl to continue but she felt like it was a time for her
to..to move on and..or not move on, they were still living in the house and he really loved them
to pieces so..
Unk: Uh-hum.

JH: - ..they Were still very much involved even though 3rdeyegirl had kind of disbanded.
Unk: Uh?hum.

..um but they were still very much a part of his life.

Unk: So did the Walton's live in a house that Prince owned?

JH: Uh?hum.

Unk: Okay.

JH: They live next to Kirk, yeah they both..

Unk: Oh they, they live next to Kirk, okay.

JH: ..their two houses are like this.

- Unk: Okay, did Meron live in one of the houses or no?

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JH: No she lives at home.
Unk: Okay, all rightyou consider to be the people that are closest or that were closest to
Prince, like his inner circle?

JH: Well it dep..it?s, it?s tricky cause he?s close to everyone but Hannah and Josh, well
JoshUa was like. his son, so he really loved Joshua. Meron, the assistant, so she was there for a
. lot of it, um Phaedra, she ran all the stuff, Kirk ran all the stuff, so that..that would, those were
like in my world, that was..those were like the four, aside from me, I was very close to. him but
aside from me that was like kind of the people I knew.

CN: Okay this might be an odd question, do you know, did..did Prince use the elevator in his
house? 

JH: All the time.

CN: Okay you'd see him or be with him?

JH: Oh yeah, that?s how he kind of got up and down.

Okay, he..he would use it, okay.

JH: All the time.

CN: Rewind here, let me touch on one thing, when you guys were in. .in Moline when the
plane landed um do you know who Kirk was calling at all, did you. did he talk about who he was

calling or who he was reaching out to or.

JH: - I know he spoke to Phaedra.

CN: Okay.
JH: I don't know who else he was calling.
CN: Okay.

JH: But i know it was Phaedra.
CN: Okay you?d mentioned that'he went out of the room and was contacting people or..

JH: Yeah he was in the other room so he was on the phone a lot but don?t know other
than Phaedra, I don?t know.

CN: Okay.
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CN: l?m getting down there.

Unk: So Kirk never, about the Percocet issue, Kirk never said anything about um how Prince
got the Percocet, did he say anything about that?

JH: No, not any..nothing.
Unk: And you haven?t talked to him since.

JH: No, not since..l mean we've Spoken about this tribute, texting me about me being
involved in the tribute, but we haven?t caught up about like everything else.

Unk: Okay.

CN: Okay, Ms. Hill has anyone told you what to say or What not to say, has anyone reached
out to you? Sometimes when things like this happen, people don?t want certain things said or
want people to say things a certain way, has anyone reached out to you about this issue and.
JH: Um Sheila.

CN: Okay.

JH: Oh she, l..l know Sheila well..

CN: Okay.

JH: .Iand she was just trying to be very protective of me and she?s like you know you can?t
say anything right, you know. .and that was it, -I mean she was like if you needed a lawyer, if
anyone comes out we can help you with that. She the only one. .

CN: Okay no one else has tried to yeah, sway you, what you might say or..

JH: No.

CN: Okay, okay. And I think you?ve already answered this and obviously we, you know, we
know the cause of the death and prescription medication and pills and whatnot are very
concerning to us and um do you have any knowledge at all about where he would get pills or
medicines or medications, whether it? from medical personnel, from you know, drug dealers,
illicit means.

JH: Yeah, right, yeah I can?t, I don?t know. i have no idea.

Okay do you, do you have any..any communications saved whether they?re emails or
text messages or phone messages that you think are pertinent to this investigation?

JH: Ah I can?t imagine, I mean there's loads of emails between him and I mean.
CN: Pertinent to..

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CN: Yeah.
JH: ..nothing like drugs, like anything like suspicious, nothing like that.

Okay, do you have anything that you think might be of evidentiary value for us,

- something that would ah help us in this investigation outside the communications?

JH: Um I mean when we?d travel he?d go by Mr. Bravestrong, like that was his name, i don?t
know, i don?t know if that is anything.

CN: Peter..Peter Bravestrong.

JH: Yeah Mr. Bravestrong, Peter Bravestrong.
CN: Okay.

JH: Ah I 

CN: Any other names?

JH: No not that I know of.

CN: Okay would he ah, would he check into hotels with that name or..

Yeah.
CN: Okay.
JH: Yeah.

CN: Anything else guys?

Unk: Um what?s your email address, you started it and then you started.
JH: Ah? 

Unk: was going to say something and now I can?t remember.

CN: Think about it. Ms. Hill, I like to ask everyone this question.

JH: Yep.

CN: if you Were conducting this investigation, who would you talk to? What else would
you do? A  ot..sometimes people have great ideas.

JH: Oh I would go um, I would talk to some of the older people that worked with him also.

CN: Okay.

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JH: Cause there?s loads of people that work with him.

CN: Yeah.

JH: There?s loads of ex~managers and people that seem to know more about him as 
CN: Yep.

.JH: ..when he's going through his pain like Kiran, she knows a lot, stuff like that would
probably go back um i, if I was conducting it yeah, i guess I would talk to as many people as

possible because he was very..l would talk to all the girlfriends, i mean cause he opens up you
know. 

CN: Okay.

JH: ..you see'he opens up differently when you?re his girlfriend.
CN: Okay.

JH: He..

Unk: Do you know who his past girlfriends are?

ON: was going to say are you comfortable telling us names of..of ah past girlfriends? Some
we may know, some we may not.

JH: Man, I'm going to go, lwould guess, yeah I mean..l know, I mean..okay, it?s so crazy, I
mean I guess you could say Andy Allo before me, Bria Valente, I mean then after that I mean
it..everything else is all what read 'on?Iine. don't really and these are people that..he never
told me, like we would never discuss that you know, so this is all obviously what?s obvious to me
from what I?ve read and what know from other people.

CN: Okay.

JH: But anybody like on that..with that kind of role would know him best, I mean he..he, he
hides from staff, I mean, theyjust have to follow orders you know, but.

CN: What do you mean hides from staff?

JH: Well like the way he was telling Meron like I?m fine, like her whole version of it is like..he
didn?t tell her anything about..l think it?s just kind of like you know.

CN: Okay and so the couple of ex?girlfriends and obviously we mention Kirk a lot, we mention
ah Meron, we mention Phaedra because we know these certain people are.

JH: The last few..
ON: ..the lastfew, yep.

JH: ..but there?s loads of.. oads of chapters.
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I .

CN: Yep.

JH: ..and they?re all as intense as the four of five of us, there would be like replaced and
there would be like as intense, like Mariah was Meron before that and before her it was
someone else, they all like experienced the same thing we experienced in different seasons of

his life and they all have a whole world of their own experience of him and his seasons you
know.

CN: Yeah.

JH: So there?s probably more clues there in every..
CN: Sure, yep.

JH: ..you know.

Unk: Do you know if..did Prince wear his clothes a certain way and did he have any
superstitions or anything like that?

JH: Um he..he always wore this..this tank top inside out, no..superstitions, don?t..l don?t
know, nojeans like he?s like don?t wearjeans, I don't, i don?t know.

Unk: Like he would just wear tight pants with no pockets a lot of times.

JH: on right, yeah.

_Unk: Okay.

JH: Yeah no pockets, yeah that?s right, I mean a lot of it was made by this one designer and
then. ah some stuff he would wear Magpie stuff and things like that but yeah, but yeah i don?t
know of any superstitions.

Unk: Okay,

CN: Ms. Hill is there anything that we haven?t asked you that you think is important.

JH: Ah I can?t think of anything.

Unk: Any late night people coming when you were there, just odd hours of the time that?s
weird?

JH: No, never saw anybody, never. He drives a lot you know.
Unk: on he did.

JH: Yeah we would go grocery shopping at four in the morning, stuff like that. Or we?d go to
Walgreens to get chocolate and..oh he loved the 5?Hour, the 5-_Hour Energy drinks was terrible,
those he would get all the time. But i didn?t see anybody come to Paisley or anything like that.

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Unk: Did you ever make any stops, kind of unannounced stops that people, at other persons,
places, Or maybe you didn?t go in orjust thought it was odd or..

.JH: No.

CN: What we?re getting at Ms. Hill, not to beat around the bush, I mean peOple who um,
people who use drugs of whether their illicit or prescription drugs or whatnot and sometimes
both, they have to get them somewhere.

JH: Yeah.

CN: ..and, and there..there are various ways that they get them um, if you?re up on current
events in the, the prescription drug world like we are cause that?s what we do um people are
buying'and selling pills on the streets, they?ve been doing it for years um peOple get pills from
doctors, people get pills from you know, there?s all these different
various ways.

JH: Right.

CN: ..so that?s one of the things of course that we are looking at..
Jl-l: Yeah. I

CN: ..is where, where did these drugs come from.

JH: Right.

CN: ..and there could be various different ways.

JH: Yeah, it?s..it?s..

CN: And we?re not trying to um disparage anyone?s reputation or anything like that.

JH: Yeah.

ON: ..I mean it kind of is what it is now, ah ourjob is to ah primarily find out what the truth is
and what happened and then our greaterjob is to try and make an impact on this to try and stop

it..



JH: Yes, yes.
CN: ..so this doesn?t continue happening you know, over and over and over again.
JH: Right.

CN: ..like it is right now.

JH: Yeah, I wish I had..l wish I had more, don't..l can?t imagine where he got it. l..l really, it
couldn?t have been Kirk or Meron, it?s like i don?t know who else, I mean unless he had like a..l
mean but then he would have to email the person like I don?t even know.

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CN: Yep.

JH: Cause it?s like how else is he going to get ahold', unless you know, cause he would
phone..the phone, maybe it was a phone number, but um I have no idea.

CN: Packages mailed to the house while you were there? FedEx, 

JH: FedEx's yeah. I

CN: Yeah.

JH: Yeah stuff like that.

CN: Was that pretty common?

JH: Yeah he?d get stuff a lot.

Unk: Did you ever look at the addresses of the packages at all?

JH: No, I don?t know, there?s all kinds of stuff, clothes or whatever.

CN: Yeah.

JH: Yeah. I

Unk: Knowing that your part, you were a big part of his life here at the last couple of years,
have a lot of people been reaching out to you trying to talk to you, try to elicit you for
information?

JH: Yeah.

CN: Yeah, has anybody said anything that you thought maybe they know more?

JH: Oh no.

Unk: No nothing like that?

JH: I mean other older people know more about him..

Unk: IUh-hum.

JH: ..if they knew him longer but.

CN: But conversations that you?ve had since this has happened, there isn?t a person that you
would say when you were kind of giving us your list of who you think we should talk to um no
one would stick out since this has happened that called and said something weird or..

JH: No.

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 And i know this is..

JH: Tyka knew that she was, she knew he was dying I guess two years, she knew
something.

CN: Something.

JH: She said, she was like oh I knew my brother was going, I?ve known it for two years now.
CN: Okay and that was after he passed away? I

JH: This was yeah, at the memorial.

CN: Did she say that publicly to people orjust privately to you?

JH: No just to me.

CN: Okay.

JH: Yeah, l..yeah.

CN: Okay. If um, if something comes up, if you remember something else obviously through
your attorney, um feel free to contact us um again we really appreciate you talking to us and I
know some of this is hard and.

JH: Uh~hum.

If anything else comes up though, please..please let us know.

RD: Okay, we absolutely will, okay.

CN: Do you have any questions for us?

RD: i don?t, no.

CN: Probably a lot that we couldn?t answer but ah..

RD: Nah that?s all right.

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