ICR # 16012559 ·Digital Statement CARVER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE CN: Detective Chris Nelson, Badge #823 JH: Judith Glory Hill, D O B : - RD: Robert Dugdale, Attorney Unk: Jeff Voller, DEA Agent Unk: Marc Lombardi, DEA Agent CN: Our, our plans are not to discuss what we talk with you directly with anyone else just like we've, we've talked to numerous people and we're not going to discuss specifically what was said in our conversations with other people, so I hope you feel comfortable talking to us and again I'm glad that you reached out to us um I think it's impo~ant, our condolences .. I know you've lost a friend and a co-worker and a colleague um with that um let.let's just start with just some basic, basic stuff that we always start with in interviews, just if you could ah spell your name for us. ( JH: J-U-D-1-T-H H-1-L-L. CN: Okay do you have a middle name Judith? JH: Glory. CN: Okay and what's your date of birth? JH: CN: Okay how about a mailing address? JH: Um about.. (_ so there'~in it, oh, that's email, you're talking CN: That's okay, yep. JH: .. ah actual .. CN: A physical mailing address if.. the old school .. JH: .. okay, yeah. CN: .. if I wanted to drop something with the post office. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:. . Page 1 ( JH: Ah CN: Okay how about a phone number. JH: CN: Okay. Unk: Just to let you know that this .. we don't release this information, this is just to make sure if we have to subpoena you for some reason, the U.S. Attorney would be able to locate you. ( JH: Okay. RD: That's right, and you, and you can tell them, she's represented by counsel.. Unk: Yes, right, they know that. RD: .. their communication should come through me, not through her. Unk: Right, right, right. RD: Okay. CN: Um I think to start with, if it's okay with you, you guys kind of reached out with us ah we have numerous questions we'd like to ask but is there ah a specific reason or what, what would you like to tell us and we'll kind of go from there, does that work for you? JH: Oh .. CN: How about we, how about we start with .. and I'll, I'll make it a little bit easier than that open blanket, how about we first talk about um the trip to Atlanta. JH: Okay. CN: Can you start with um, um was that planned months in advance, weeks in advance? JH: No it was the night, overnight. CN: When was it planned, when did you know that you were traveling? JH: Um I spoke with him the night before and we didn't.. I had no plans of going to Atlanta and then the next morning he said hey, do you want to go to Atlanta with me today to see my show. CN: Okay so that, so .. so that would have been the next morning, would have been the 13th or the 14th of April? JH: Oh it was um, it was um, what was the day before? I didn't have much time, it was like that happened and then my flight was like the next day or something like that. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, LMM Page 2 DOB:tliiiilllt ( CN: Okay, okay and I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to pin you down .. JH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. CN: .. to a specific date or whatever, just as best as you can .. JH: Yes I think it was the next day was the show. Unk: And Judith where are you when you, you first.. JH: Um LA CN: Okay so .. Unk: Okay so you're in LA and you get this invitation to go .. CN: Yep. Unk: _.. to go to it, okay. CN: So, so your trip is from LA to, to Atlanta? JH: Minneapolis. Unk: Oh you're .. okay. CN: go? Oh, to Minneapolis, okay, okay and then when you got to Minneapolis, where did you JH: I checked in to the Country Inn, it's a hotel like down the road from Paisley Park. CN: Okay, okay and then ah, that was, was that on the day that you guys traveled to Atlanta or was that the day before? ( JH: It was the night before. CN: The night before, so probably I think on the 13th. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay then when did you first see ah Prince, Mr. Nelson? JH: We got a late start that day so um he picked me up at the hotel noon or oneish. CN: Okay. JH: Maybe even later, two? CN: Okay. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB· LMM Page 3 ( JH: Late afternoon. CN: Okay and this is the day before? JH: This is the day of the show. CN: The day of the show, okay .. JH: Yeah. CN: .. okay and who was with him when he picked you up? JH: Um just the driver and it was just me and him. CN: Okay, do you know his driver? JH: Was it Kim? I think it was Kim that time. She usually does it, yeah I think Kim, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure but it was Kim but it was um usually Kim does the driving. CN: Okay. JH: Sometimes there's someone else. CN: Okay. JH: But I think it was Kim that time. Unk: What were they, what were they driving that day? JH: Ah like an S .. um an SUV, black. Unk: Okay. CN: Okay and do you know Kim's last name? JH: No I don't. CN: Okay how, how would' you describe Kim? JH: Oh she's really bubbly .. CN: Okay. JH: .. she's always laughing .. CN: Okay. JH: .. she's a very happy person, very fun. ( ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:._ LMM Page4 ( CN: White person? Black person? Asian person? JH: Yeah white. CN: White person. JH: Middle, middle aged like. CN: Okay, okay, okay so that's the night, that's .. thal's the the driver and where do you guys go from there? JH: Yeah it was Kim. CN: Okay, okay. JH: Um we go to the airport. 14th and Prince is there and just CN: Okay and Kim drops you off and she's on her way and what ah what were the flight arrangements at the airport? JH: Oh you mean like .. CN: Meaning what did you guys fly, what when you got there. JH: Oh it was like a small jet .. CN: Okay. JH: .. we usually fly privately .. CN: Yep. JH: .. so a small jet, we just came in. CN: Okay have, have you flown with Prince numerous times? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay and is it, is ii usually the same, the same jet do you know or .. JH: Um similar, it's always a.. it's not like his personal jet.. CN: Yep. JH: .. so sometimes ii changes. CN: Yeah, he uses a company .. JH: Yeah. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: LMM Page 5 ( CN: .. and kind of whatever they have available. JH: Yeah. CN: Do you know, are there um when you fly with him, do you see the pilots? JH: Yeah, they're,' they're in the small little .. CN: Yep, yep. JH: .. cubicle in the front. CN: Yep, do you know, is it usually the same pilots or is it.. JH: Different.. CN: Different pilots, okay. JH: .. yeah different. CN: How about flight crew, do you .. JH: Sometimes it's the same lady um when we, but they're different.. CN: Okay. JH: .. different ones. That lady I've never met before. CN: Okay so she wa.s a new one to you. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay so ah when you, when you flew out, who .. who all was on the plane? JH: Oh it was just Prince um me and Kirk. CN: Okay and how did Kirk get there, do you know? JH: Ah he drove separately .. CN: Okay. JH: .. and met us there. CN: Okay so you guys met in the, in the airport. JH: Yeah, yeah in the plane yeah. ( ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B . Page 6 c CN: Okay how long um, so the driver you'd seen before ah the pilots maybe you've seen before, the flight ah crew, not the crew but the um flight attendant you hadn't seen before ah how about Kirk, have you seen him a lot? Do you know him? JH: Oh yeah. CN: Okay ah when, when did you first meet Kirk do you think? JH: Um sometime ah sometime late 2014 maybe .. CN: Okay. JH: .. or the first of 2015, something like that. CN: Okay and is that about the time that you met Prince as well? JH: Yeah I met Prince in 2014. CN: Okay so at..at about that same time. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay how would you describe um during this entire time then, the .. the relationship that Prince and Kirk have or how would you describe Kirk's role with Prince? ( JH: Oh he's his right-hand man. CN: Okay. JH: He does everything, I mean he was his dancer then like his music production, additional production on his you know, records and then he became his drummer and then he, he was the estate manager for Paisley Park and then he's a body guard, he was my drummer, he became my drummer.. CN: Okay. JH: .. and musical MD for a while and um so he does everything. CN: Okay did he, did he become your drummer after I assume you met him in '14, so after you met Prince, met him through Prince.. · JH: Yeah. CN: .. and then he did some drumming for you? Okay. JH: And then Prince put a band together for me and made Kirk the MD. CN: Okay um when you say that he's his right-hand man and he's the manager of Paisley Park, do you know, when you see Prince, is Kirk usually with him? l ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hiii, 008:. . Page 7 ( JH: No. CN: Okay. JH: It depends um it is just, um the scenarios are different, my scen .. l'm usually with Prince and if we need Kirk to do something, Kirk will open up the you know, sometimes we get locked out of Paisley and he has a separate key so he opens it up, stuff like that or he would go with .. I mean for me he was my drummer so he like ran all my stuff.. CN: Yeah. JH: .. you know, I always saw him. CN: Okay. For, for Prince he was, I mean he did everything. He was in the studio sometimes like JH: um any type of event at Paisley, he was the one that helped facilitate and bring the DJ's and just kind of ran events so .. CN: Okay. JH: .. I mean I saw him in so many different versions of like he was always doing something different. ( CN: Okay so the three of you are on the plane and anything ah you fly to Atlanta, is it directly to Atlanta? JH: Yeah. CN: Anything eventful or anything happen on the plane or .. JH: He wasn't feeling well, he just slept. CN: Okay. JH: In the back of the plane. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay for most of the entire flight? JH: Yeah he was .. yeah he wasn't feeling well. CN: Okay and um anything other than that, just he wasn't feeling well, he slept, okay. JH: He slept. CN: Okay how about when you get to Atlanta, what happens? ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB. . . . Page 8 ( JI-I: Ah we get to Atlanta, go straight to the dressing room, I go and get some food and he sound checks and then um and then he does the show. CN: Okay and where, so that's what Prince does, that's what you do, what does Kirk do during that time, do you know? JI-I: Yeah Kirk ah, I don't know where Kirk went, we met with another bodyguard, so the bodyguard kind of handled me and helped me get food and then Kirk went and, I don't really know, he has a lot going on cause he has to deal with whatever .. CN: Okay. JI-I: .. that's logistically like as if a manager so .. CN: Sure. JI-I: .. so he went down and maybe spoke to some of the .. I don't know, he was just, I didn't see him. CN: Okay so about, do you know about what time you got to the venue then? JI-I: Ah well let's see, the first show was a 7:30 show I believe, 7:00 or 7:30 and we were running late, we were pretty much getting there around that time ... ( CN: Okay. JI-I: .. so he had a really quick sound check and we had to get police escorted to the venue anyways because we were running behind. Unk: Where was the event? CN: Okay. JI-I: Where? Um it's the beautiful theater, the um ah what's it called, it's like a chain theater, they've got.it's like old theater, I don't know, I forget the name. Unk: Something like the Pantages or.. JI-I: It's not the Pantages but it's like ah one of those um ... CN: I forget now too, I read it of course but .. JI-I: It's like an old beautiful theater. Unk: Okay. CN: Okay so um first show's at 7:30 ah does, does ah Prince perform at that one? JI-I: Yeah. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB. . Page 9 ( CN: Okay and take kind of..take us through um the you know, the night and you know let's say up until you guys go back to the airport. Anything eventful? JH: Ah well, he I mean, he .. he wasn't really feeling good until he did his first show, he did his first show and he did an amazing, incredible show and then came back to his dressing room and you know, I went into the dressing room and I said hey amazirig, he's like thank you you know, I mean he said a lot of stuff that was kind of hard to hear. CN: Okay. JH: II was stuff like you know ... CN: And I, and I would like to hear specifically and 1..1 ii might be hard for you to .. JH: .. yeah, I mean he, yeah he .. he just, he just was in a really .. l've never seen him, he was just kind of, oh man I enjoy sleeping more these days you know, maybe ii means I've done all I'm supposed to do here on this earth, stuff like that and I was kind of like, so I was like okay, you know and I was like well what.. what about the you know, like so you don't enjoy being here um you know, when you're awake? He's like no, it's boring, incredibly boring you know, so he was very kind of in a .. kind of depressed .. CN: ( Okay. JH: .. mindset and that was after the first show um second show he did the .. another amazing show, you'd never guess these things on .. on the stage and then he comes back and lh,at's when you know, he was a little more in a better mood.. ' CN: Okay. .. and he was um and then Janelle Monae and Ceelo Green kind of..and we all kind of JH: came in and had like a little, they were only there for like ten, fifteen minutes just talking how great ii was and um things like that. CN: Okay. JI-I: Oh there's another thing, there was, before the first show, or before ... after the first show when he was more depressed talking about all those things there was a guy from Electric Fetus which is a small independent um record shop and he had one of the um younger guys ah that owns it come out and .. and sit there and talk about business things like we want to do this and that with the store, so that was it. CN: Okay when you ah, let me take you back just a little bit here, when you said Prince wasn't feeling well um did he tell you what wasn't feeling well or what was, or was ii just that he wasn't feeling well. JH: Well that.. the day of, of that when we .. we woke up and went to the a'1rplane or the show he just says I'm not feeling well. ( CN: Okay. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B - Page 10 ( JH: But you know, the conversation we had a few days earlier he was talking about how he got sick and had to postpone the show and he was just like, he's like no I just developed flu like symptoms like you would have a flu and then I lost my voice which was a concern. CN: Sure. JH: But he'd had his, he had his voice for the Atlanta show so it wasn't that he lost his voice, I think he might have just.I mean later on he told me he was just nauseous. CN: Okay. JH: II was a nausea kind of thing. CN: Okay um so at the show he performs two shows, you mention a couple of people that, that ah pop their heads in or visit him, any other people that um that he maybe knew or that.that showed up um any people that he was um close to or spent any time with while, while you guys were there that you were aware of? JH: No. CN: Okay. JH: Not for that Atlanta trip. CN: Okay. JH: There, it was just um CeeLo and his kind of crew and Janelle and .. CN: Who's Janelle? JH: Janelle Monae. CN: Okay. JH: She's an incredible artist, she .. she's a good friend of ah Prince you know, she's just a good artist. CN: Okay, okay so the second show ends about what time do you think? JH: It started at 10:30 or something, ii was about an hour and a half show. CN: Okay, okay so nothing else that you can think about remarkable during the show um .. JH: Well he did say that um he joked about it after his last show and he was like man I thought I was going to fall asleep on .. up there. I was like .. ( CN: And, and what do you take that to mean, in your opinion do you think .. JH: I thought ii was very strange. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B LMM Page 11 ( CN: Okay. JH: I mean I, this again, when this, when he said that this .. the incident hadn't happened yet on the plane so .. CN: Yeah. JH: .. I had no, I just thought that was weird, why would .. you never would, like you're so in the moment on stage you would never fall asleep so I thought .. ! found that to be very out of character for him to say something like that. CN: Okay for the, for the, since 2014 since you've know him, that was out of character. JH: Oh for the stage, yeah, you don't. CN: For the stage okay, okay. JH: No, that's when he's most alive is on stage. CN: Okay so um anything else you can think of before you guys leave the, leave the venue? JH: Um I mean we just talked about, I mean yeah there was a lot of things about the music, a lot of music business however is not what it used to be and just kind of discouraged about all of that.. CN: Okay. JH: .. it was more a conversation and that was along the lines of kind of after the first show, just music is not, it's not like, he's like back in the day you know, it was this and that and we were all like you just reminisce, reminiscing a lot about the heyday .. CN: Yeah. JH: .. and then feeling like right now it's like there's no one else, he was the only one, it was that kind of conversation. CN: Okay a little depressing kind of huh? JH: Oh yeah, yeah it was, it was, it was hard to see him in that state. CN: Okay um how do you guys leave the venue? JH: Ah we just, we go down to the elevator and we get into the SUV and we just um go back to the airport. CN: Okay so an SUV that picked you up from the airport, ah was that just, was that a service out there that, just a .. JH: Yeah. ICR#16~ DOB~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, LMM Page 12 ( CN: .. a transportation company that came and got you? JH: Yeah. CN: Did you know that person at all? The driver? JH: No. CN: That's not a usual.. JH: No we always, whenever we fly to a city .. CN: Yep. JH: .. there's always just some stranger driving us. CN: Okay so you didn't get the impression that Kirk or Prince knew the driver or.. JH: No you know. CN: Okay, okay so the same driver, same SUV takes you back to the airport. JH: Yeah. CN: And who's all in the SUV when you go back? JH: Um just Kirk, or I mean sorry, just Prince and I. CN: Okay, no Kirk? JH: No. CN: Okay how did Kirk get from the airport to the Atlanta venue? JH: Oh wait, was he sitting up front? I don't think he was. I think, there's always two, it's, it's, it's always Prince and I. CN: Yep. JH: Privately and then whoever else is going they go in the other van. CN: Okay. JH: I think that's what happened .. CN: Okay. JH: .. on the way, I know that was like that going, I think .. ! don't think Kirk was .. ( !CR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB!•.- · LMM Page 13 ( CN: So there's more than, there's more than one van that go from .. JH: Like two yeah. CN: Like two that go from the airport to the venue .. JH: Yeah . CN: .. and then from the venue back to the .. JH: Yeah I believe so. CN: Okay and you, and you think maybe Kirk was in the other one? JH: Yeah well there's only just Kirk was the only other person this time around so. CN: Okay so .. JH: But I don't remember Kirk being I you know, I don't really, he might have been in the front but .. · \' CN: Okay. JH: .. most likely he wasn't .. CN: Okay. JH: .. he was in the other one. CN: Do you know, is there, is there a .. my own ignorance, is there a .. a reason if there is just three of you traveling if there is two, two cars or is that just the way he likes it done or .. JH: I mean he just, whenever I'm there it's, it's, it's him and I. CN: Okay so maybe it's just a privacy thing or.. JH: Yeah. CN: You guys are going to perform together or.. JH: Well yeah, I mean ... CN: Yeah I understand. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay um so anything remarkable .. remarkable about the trip back to the airport? If you think about the ride back? ' JH: Um, he's talking, he was in a more pep in his step. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: 5/6/84 LMM Page 14 ( CN: Okay. JH: Talks about oh man, favorite moment was first time seeing Fleetwood Mac and kind of still reminiscing, it was all reminiscing .. CN: Yep. JH: .. and very much like I was just so excited about that and but he was talking, he was definitely, it seemed like he was in a better.. · CN: Okay. JH: .. better than he was before. CN: Okay and you get back to the airport and anything, you get out of the SUV, you're there, you're at the airport, go through security, is Kirk there then when you .. with you? Can you remember when you go through security? ( JH: We don't go through security. CN: Oh you go .. JH: We go straight to the, on .. on to the .. CN: Oh okay cause you're flying on, yeah, I get it. JH: Yeah. CN: So you are able to go straight to the plane. JH: Yeah we just, yeah the SUV's just take us straight up and drive us straight to the .. the airport. CN: Okay, gotcha, okay. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay so who, who all then boards the plane to go back? JH: Kirk, Prince and I. CN: Okay and was it the same, the same flight crew that brought you there? JH: Yeah, yeah. CN: Okay, as far as you know the same pilots, same .. JH: Yeah, same lady. 160112 5 ICR# Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: MM Page 15 CN: Okay, same flight attendant. So take me through that then. You guys get on the plane and .. and what happens? JH: Ah we get on the plane, kind of get settled, ah Kirk always sits in the front, he sits like if the plane is that way and the pilots are this way, there's a seat and he just faces the pilot and then .. CN: Okay. JH: .. then there's the table and there's two seats this way and then Prince and I, Prince sits across directly from me and so it was that kind of thing and we talked a little bit but um he told the stewardess we're going to have something to eat and so she starts to prepare food, that was the first time he was going to eat anything because he hadn't eaten and he um, he goes to the back of the plane um I'm still sitting this way and he goes to the back, there's like another couch type of thing .. CN: Yep. JH: .. and um he, he's like fiddling with his bag okay .. CN: Okay. .. um and then I didn't really think much of it but he .. oh no, he sat here first and talked to JH: me a little bit and he asked me um if I needed a cough drop cause I was coughing and so I was like no I'm okay, or no he's like are you okay with your cough or whatever and I was like yeah I'm fine and then he goes and he stands up, he goes and he goes to the back of the plane and fiddles with his bag, and he's fiddling for a while and then he comes back and he hands me a cough drop and I was like okay, thank you and then he goes back to his bag and he's fiddling with the bag for a while again and um finally he. comes back to his table and um he's talking about you know, wants me to stay with him in Paisley Park for another day so we can like watch movies you know, just hang out for a while. CN: Yeah, okay. JH: Ah and then he says um but we'll see, I might need to sleep you know, get some rest and I was like yeah sure, you know whatever you need to do and that's when it happened. He ah, the lady had already brought him food out and he just took a couple bites and then ah .. CN: Okay. JH: .. then he just looks down and I um it looked like we were both going to kind of prepare to sleep or whatever, I was just... and he .. his eyes were fixed and he just kind of looked down and he kind of like did like one of these and like this again and then, and then just went like that. CN: Okay. JH: And I thought that was weird. CN: Okay, let me ask you a couple of um specific questions. When you say the bag, can you describe the bag that he's fiddling with or fiddling in? ICR#1601!-5 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: MM Page 16 .--- ( JH: Yeah it's a little like um black kind of, it's kind of ah, a round top .. CN: Okay, okay. JH: .. and then it's a square, a little square kind of thing. CN: Okay and is that um, do you know that to be his bag .. JH: It's his bag. CN: Is ii a bag you've seen before? JH: Yeah he always traveled with it. CN: Okay so it's his travel bag. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay and from the time he first went back and came back with a cough drop for you and then I understand he went back to the bag again and then came back and then kind of nods off. How much lime are we talking about? (. JH: II was, like the first lime five minutes of fiddling .. CN: Okay. JH: .. something like that and then came back with the cough drop and then went back and then a little bit longer.. CN: Okay. JH: .. and then came back, something like that. CN: Okay so maybe from the first time he fiddled with ii, maybe ten minutes or .. JH: Yeah something like that, I mean .. CN: Okay. JH: .. I think he might have even gone to the restroom, yeah, yeah but ii was like around five, ten minutes or something like that. CN: Okay and is that the, is that the first lime um on this trip that you've noticed him doing any .. anything with his bag or fiddling with ii? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay, okay and okay we can .. so five to ten minutes and um you said he kind of nodded off or ii was strange lo you .. ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB~ Page 17 ( JH: Yeah. CN: .. and then go on, what happened then? JH: So he you know, he nods off and then I hear some water spilling, I look under the table and he still has the water bottle in his hand and it's spilling and I thought, I was like immediately I go up and I went straight up to Kirk, I woke Kirk up and I said hey Kirk, I don't know, I don't know. ( CN: Okay was Kirk sleeping during this time? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay. JH: I was like I don't know and so he gets up and he sits next to Prince and that's when we start..he shakes Prince, nothing. I was like, I was like freaking out um we both got up, Kirk and I and went straight to the cockpit and we're like we got to like land, we have to land and so that's you know, he, he goes in, Kirk you know is telling them we gotta land we have an emergency situation and then we get back and we're still, he's just holding Prince and he's like Prince, shaking him, no .. no response. And I was like is his heart beating and then he felt his chest and he's like yeah and I was like okay and then he kept shaking him Prince, Prince, nothing and then I ask again, is his heart beating and he felt it and he was like yeah but it's irregular so it's getting like, time was not on our side and um it was taking forever to descend but finally we descended. · CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. CN: And what um, Ms. Hill, what..do you have any inkling of what's going on or do you, are you thinking something? JH: I thought he was dead. CN: Okay. JH: I was like he looked dead and I was freaking, I was just like .. my heart was pounding, that's why I kept asking if his heart was beating cause he looked dead to me. I was like he's not.. he looks like lifeless, lifeless, like he's, he's not I mean I don't know if you would call that fainting, that's not fainting, like he looks like not alive. CN: Yeah there's, there's nothing there, there's no .. JH: There's nothing. CN: .. no response, no .. ( DOBlllP ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, Page 18 ,.·-· ( JH: Nothing, he's just limp. He's like, we're shaking him and there's nothing. So you know, thank god you know, Prince or Kirk said his heart was still beating but I was like you know so, but that was very scary. CN: Okay, okay so the .. and I'll not to, 1..1 assume during all of this there's a pilot and a copilot, are they in the cockpit during this entire time? ( JH: Yeah. CN: Okay and the flight attendant ah .. JH: Yeah. CN: .. from, from, from when you got on the plane you said she served some food um .. JH: Yeah . CN: .. she was, what was she doing, normal flight attendant things? JH: Yeah she was doing normal flight attendant things and yeah. CN: Okay and Kirk was sleeping. JH: Yeah. CN: Did he fall asleep shortly after you took off or .. JH: Yeah, just in front, yeah right away. CN: Okay and you said that's typically when you fly .. JH: Yeah, yeah. CN: .. he'll sit in the front. JH: Yeah he usually keeps to himself in the front. CN: Okay, okay so the plane is ah is finally getting down to the ground and what happens next? JH: We finally land and then the paramedics come onto the plane and, and they're very, to me in my opinion they were moving too slow, I was like, they're like okay we've heard that someone's unresponsive but oh they're still alive, I was just.it was frustrating me .. CN: Okay. .. finally they're like oh can we move this table and I was like is the ambulance here and JH: they're like they're five minutes out so it was like okay so you know, then they're like oh can we move this table, how do we get him out of his seat, I was like guys this is kind of an emergency ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB1lllftl!ll' Page 19 like, so finally their like, someone just like picks, someone, everybody just kind of picks up a leg and an arm and they all kind of just carry him out into the ambulance and get him onto the bed. CN: Okay so the first two people that showed up were separate from the actual ambulance showing up? JH: Yeah they were like paramedics .. CN: Okay. JH: .. they were not the ambulance. CN: in .. Okay, all right so you guys pick him up, you carry him out and you get him on the bed JH: Yeah. CN: .. and they put him in the ambulance um do you all go in the ambulance or who goes in the ambulance? ' JH: We all go. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. \ CN: And did um did you take anything with you from, from the plane? Were you guys flying with luggage did you .. JH: We had our luggage but I just took my purse. CN: Okay. JH: And um Kirk carried his stuff. CN: Kirk, Kirk's stuff? JH: No, his .. Prince's stuff. CN: Oh Prince's stuff. JH: Like his cane and his bag, he carried his stuff for him. CN: Okay. JH: Um into you know .. CN: The ambulance. ICR#160.25 Statement Judith GlolJI Hill, DOB MM Page 20 ( JH: .. and he and they said one person can sit um in the, next to the bed and one person can sit in the front and I decided I would sit in the front.. CN: Okay. JH: .. it was so traumatic for me to see this whole thing. CN: Yeah. JH: So um you know, they, they proceeded and they asked like did he take anything and then Kirk said Percocet and so the guys were like well we're, we're guessing he took ah more than one, I think they said something like that. · CN: Okay. JH: And they're like we think, we think, we think we know what we need to do here and then they, they gave him something and then they were like okay there we go, there we go and I was like what's happening, it's like that's what we thought and then I was like okay and then I get up into the front and we start driving and they're they keep telling Prince like .. ' CN: Okay so that's, so you were in the back initially, this is taking place .. JH: Oh no, this .. this was like ah when we were all standing around .. CN: Yep. JH: .. ah before we had tooken our actual seats .. CN: Yep . JH: .. they, they, they um hit him with the thing .. CN: Yep . JH: ..and they were like .. CN: Is this in the back of the, the ambulance? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay. \. JH: I'm kind of still..Kirk and I and everybody's kind of just standing, we're all standing in the back of the ambulance .. CN: Yeah. JH: .. it hadn't moved yet and he was just in the bed and they hit him with the thing and then, then, then we got situated and Kirk decided to sit back there and I decided to sit in the front and then the vehicle started moving and ah .. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:. . Page 21 ( CN: Okay. JH: .. they were talking and they were like telling Prince you gotta cooperate with us, we're going to try and get you back and they um you know, and then his body started convulsing like rapidly and I was like what is going on, they're like it's looking like it's wearing off, we got to hit him again and they hit him again and then these .. the guys like hey, can .. can we stop the vehicle, we need to take a picture of his heart and all this is going on and I'm just like oh my god, so finally like you know, they hit him again and it's just a lot of chatter and then um finally we get to the ambulance and we pull in and or to the emergency room um and we pull in um and um then they open the, the doors and I get out of my seat and I open the .. and they, they pull him out and I, and I see him and he's like looking around and I was like oh my god, thank you, he's alive like so whatever they did worked. I was like so .. / really thought he was dead, I was like I don't know if he's going to make ii but he got through that and I was so thankful. CN: Okay um let me take you back a little bit, when, when the ambulance crew asked what he took and Kirk said Percocet.. JH: Uh-huh. CN: .. did he say anything, anything else about that. What exactly did you hear the conversation from Kirk about, about what he took. \' JH: He just said Percocet. CN: Okay. JH: That was it. CN: Did they ask him how many? Did Kirk have a response? JH: No, I don't think so, I don't remember correctly, I'm not 100% but I don't think he said he took two or three or what.I don't think he gave a number.. CN: Okay. JH: .. they were the ones that were like no offense guys, but we think he's like taken .. CN: Yep. JH: .. several or something like that's what they were saying lo us. CN: Okay and did Kirk have a response to that? JH: No ii was just, we were all just like yeah, ii was a lot going on but that was, that was the end of that conversation. { CN: Okay um .. Unk: Just to ask, was this all news to you that he was taking Percocet? ICR# 160 . 255. Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: MM Page 22 ( JH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. CN: Yeah. JH: Yeah, I was like .. CN: And we can talk about that now since you brought it up. Unk: Sure. CN: What's your knowledge of Prince's use of medications, supplements, any you know, whatever it might be? ( JH: I had no idea he was taking anything. CN: Okay. JH: The only thing I knew he would do is those 5 Hour Energy drinks .. CN: Yep . JH: .. he did a lot of those. CN: Okay. JH: Other than that I had no idea. This was news. This was the first time I've ever experienced anything like this with him. CN: Okay and how many times roughly do you think you've been with Prince, I mean in person, with him over the .. JH: Oh .. CN: .. couple of years or a year and a half, I forget what the .. the .. JH: Yeah it was like that, something like that. CN: Okay. JH: I would be there for like two weeks straight.. CN: Yeah. JH: .. and I'd go home to L.A. about a week or two and I'd come back .. CN: Okay. JH: .. it would be for like two weeks again .. ICR#160.25 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB. MM Page 23 / ( CN: Yep. JH: .. I'd be there, stuff like that. CN: Okay. JH: Just kind of that. CN: So you, you, you saw him a lot. I mean if you .. JH: Yes. CN: You stayed at Paisley and during these two week stints during all these times you've seen him you had no idea that he was taking drugs .. ( JH: Right. CN: .. or prescriptions or.. JH: Right. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. Unk: You never saw him take any pills ever? JH: No I never saw that ever, I mean I didn't even see any pills laying around anywhere. CN: Did anyone ever talk to you or mention to you about Prince taking pills or any, anything about that? JH: No. CN: Anything about pills or drugs or prescriptions or .. JH: No pills or prescriptions, nothing. CN: Okay anything else, illicit drugs. JH: Any, oh no, no, nothing, nothing like illicit drugs or anything. The only thing he would do is like drinking some cognac sometimes, like little shots of cognac. CN: Okay so he wasn't a big drinker either? JH: No, no, no, no. CN: Okay. JH: Just sometimes cognac. · ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B : Page 24 ( CN: Okay so no, we won't beat a dead horse, no .. no pill knowledge? JH: No. CN: Okay so you're at the hospital now and you're going in and anything remarkable there or what's taking place or what are you hearing? JH: Well a lot, well I mean the doctors come in, um there was a lot of discussion about, I'm trying to remember what happened first. First they ask him if he's okay and then he says he's cold and they give him blankets and things like that and, and then um ah their, their conc .. their main initial concern is we need to find out what you've taken and um they were like we cannot let you leave this hospital unless we know what you've taken because you could die depending on what it is, you could be some really crazy drug we don't know of and we don't, we can't .. CN: Yep. .. so um so Kirk opened the bag to search in there to like see if there's anything and we, JH: he opened the bag, looks through and there was nothing and then, and then again, and then while Prince was awake and more conscience he says to um he says to us there is something else, it's .. i!'s in the, it's in the um now it was like some herbal container-like what you would think of like as bayless or garlic or something you would get at Whole Foods .. CN: ( Okay. JH: .. I forget but it was like bayless inside the bag and um he's like it's in the bayless so Kirk opens the bag again, opens it up, looks at it.. CN: Do you have those pictures? I can show these to you first if you'd like. Um well they're in the stack there, okay so first of all, that is, who is that? JH: It's Kirk. CN: Okay and that's you? It looks like you right? JH: Yeah . . CN: JH: Okay and this is Mr. Nelson and you probably, and I'm sorry, I don't mean to upset you .. That's the, yeah. CN: That's the bag we're talking about? Okay. All right enough with that, 1.. 1 Ms. Hill I don't mean to upset you. JH: No, no, that's .. Unk: Ms. Hill, did .. did Mr. Nelson always carry his bag with himself or did someone always carry it for him? i JH: He always carried it. ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, 0 0 8 LMM Page 25 ( Unk: Always carried it. JH: Yeah. Unk: Okay. Unk: Just for um, just a question um so the trip to Atlanta was just, you left that day for the shows that night and then you were coming back that night, did he have any other luggage with him apart from this, this bag? Meaning Prince? JH: Um did he have his big suit.suitcase? Unk: I'm just wondering, did he have luggage, did lie have to change for the show or anything like that? ( JH: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unk: And he brings that stuff? Not.not his people? JH: No, no the, the um the other people they, they carry our luggage. CN: Okay. JH: It goes into the .. the luggage compartment of the .. of the plane. Unk: But as far as what he's carrying for is essentially what is a day trip. JH: Yeah it's always the little bag and the cane. Unk: Okay. JH: Always. CN: Either of those bottles? JH: Yeah, yeah .. CN: That was the bottle? JH: that's .. that was, that was the one. CN: Okay the Bayer bottle. JH: They bay .. yeah, I thought it was bayless, but yeah .. CN: Bayer, okay, okay so .. JH: .. yeah, yeah. ICR#1. 0125 . Statement Judith Glory Hill, DO MM Page 26 ( CN: .. so Prince was looking through his bag and saying or he ... JH: Kirk's was looking, oh sorry, go ahead. CN: .. um who told you or what did you overhear when, when they said look in the, the Bayer bottle, who was saying that? JH: Ah Prince. CN: Pri.nce was saying that, okay. JH: Prince was telling us. CN: Prince was telling you, okay. JH: Prince was telling Kirk and he's like it's in the Bayer .. CN: Okay. JH: .. and then Kirk opened the Bayer and asked Prince where did you get these? And Prince didn't answer. CN: ( Okay and did you see what was in there? What.what was inside? JH: No so they took, so the doctors were like okay we're going to test these to figure out what these are because we need to find out.. CN: Okay. JH: .. so they run a little test and they, they say it's like okay, so there like all right, this is not, this is like another, ii has Tylenol in it, it's like another version of pain pill or Percoc.. or whatever, it shouldn't, basically her point was this should not have put you in like the state you were in so obviously you're overdosing on Tylenol, we got to .. we got to figure out what's going on with your, your kidney and your liver, that was their whole point because it's very outrageous what happened to you, that's what her point was. CN: Okay and this is the female doctor? JH: Yes. CN: . Who said, okay, was .. ··-. JH: Yeah, yeah .. CN: .. who's having, who's having the conversation and how was Mr. Nelson responding? JH: He's um, he does not want to take the test. CN: Okay. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B . Page 27 ( JH: She's like we want to take the test, we have these tests that we recommend and he's like no test, and then Kirk says no test and I was like .. so she's like okay, just to let you know, and again she's like this is like, it is very important that you know, you understand the risks to this and she goes into it and she's like I'm going to leave the room and let you think about it and so she does that, and she does it a few times you know. CN: Okay so what's the conversation when she leaves the room just between you guys, what conversation is happening about what's taking place? · JH: Well ori..initially it was, Kirk was in the room and he just said stuff like you know, we can't keep doing this and .. to Prince and he's like we're here for you brother and all that, so there was no discussion about you should take this test, right. CN: Okay. JH: But then Kirk left and it was just me and Prince and that's the rest of the night, I stayed with him and I, and I um, I said I'm very concerned, you know, you don't want to take these tests and the doctors are saying this is very important you know .. CN: Uh-hum. .. and, and he's like I know, he's like I know, I'm concerned too, I want to know what's JH: going on with my body too, I just can't do these tests here, I have to get back home and 1..1 promise once I get back home I'll take these tests. CN: Okay. JH: I said okay, you know like his main concern I think was the records being there, he wanted to be .. he's like I just need to get home, I was like okay so you're going to take the tests when you get home, okay, cause but I like .. I just couldn't believe like do you not care? Like why do you not want to take these tests like, and I know it was a huge issue about drawing blood and all that, but he said he would do them wheri he gets home and I was like okay, so you're .. okay, so that was what he told me. · CN: Okay, so there was, just so I'm straight, cause this is important stuff for us um, there was first some, they asked the, the doctor asked him if he would take a test and was Prince the first one to say no he doesn't want to take it, was Kirk the first one to say no he's not taking it, was .. ( JH: Ah Prince. CN: Prince okay, and then Kirk also said no he's not taking them as .. JH: Yeah, as .. as a confirmation to her. CN: Okay, okay and then you s31id Kirk left and do you know where he went or .. JH: Yeah he was in the .. the lobby ah there was another like lobby area and he was making calls and things like that. ., CN: Okay. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB. . Page 28 ( JH: Yeah. CN: Okay so Prince says that he'll um take the tests when, when you get home, any .. anything else that's remarkable while you're at the hospital? Any other..any more conversation? JH: Yeah lots of conversations, I mean he explained what happened to his body, he's like I left.my soul left, I could hear you, I could hear everybody talking and I kept saying how am I going to get back to my body and it was the hardest thing um he exp!. .it was very vivid, I mean I can go into detail about what it was that he experienced um on .. on the, on his side of it.. CN: ( Okay. JH: .. and he felt like he needed to express that and then I was like you know, I was like so, so definitely no more of these pills right, you know that's .. that's .. that's what I said to him and he's like, I can't. .well he's like, no he said something like well then that means I can't perform because my hands are hurting. My hands hurt and !..that was the first I ever heard him say, cause this was the first time I think he was saying he was banging on the piano and that usually is the guitar, this piano tour I think was getting to his hands and so that.and then I was like well, there was more discussion, he's like, he's like no, I think it's just because I mixed the two, I won't do that anymore, he's like I know my body well, I know !..I'm a pretty good judge of .. of my body, but he's like it's because I mixed the two. I said well she's saying you're overdosing on Tylenol perhaps like that your kid .. so I'm trying to explain to him like no, your organs and this and that you know, and he's, he's con .. he started to go down the line of like so what did they give me? He started really getting obsessed with that and he started saying you know, he's like you know, it's one thing if.. if it's my, my decision and if it's anything I did, it's .. that's one thing, but if someone else is interfering .. interfering and they give me something .and we don't know what it is, how it affects the chemistry of whatever else is in my body right now, so we need to find out what they gave me cause all of these you know, this tornado that I experienced, that happened only when they gave me that shot, he's like on the plane I was only dreaming, I just had a dream about there were two sides of people choosing but !..he was like I would have waken up and I was like .. and he's like no, I would have woken up, so he started to kind of rationalize, he's like but when .. it was they gave me that thing, that's when it started to go haywire, so we need to find out what they did to me, and I'm thinking well they saved like you huh like, so, but I didn't want to argue with him because he's getting very passionate about it so I was like okay, keeping him calm, I was like .. he was like can we find out the name of what they gave me, and I said yeah; we'll figure it out and we'll ask and he's .. so that was where he was going down the line of it and you know, he .. so that, that was a lot of the conversation about the drugs. Then there was more like spiritual conversation about.. CN: Okay. JH: .. other things you know. CN: When he said though, you said that.that he told you that he thought it was that he mixed the two .. JH: Yeah. ( '. - lCR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B - ·-ri:::;- Page 29 ( CN: .. or .. JH: Yes . CN: .. did he elaborate any more on that, like he mixed two different pills or .. JH: Percocet and this other thing in the Bayer, just.. CN: Okay. JH: .. whatever that was, he was like, it's probably cause, oh and he also, he did say he took two of the ones in the Bayer. CN: Two of the ones in the Bayer, and what did he say about the Percocet? JH: He didn't say how much he took of the Percocet. Unk: But he did say that he took them. JH: He didn't say he took Percocet, he said ii was that I mixed the two. Unk: Okay. JH: So I, I knew ii was Percocet because of what Kirk said earlier that it was Percocet. Unk: Okay. JH: So, and we didn't know what this other thing was in the Bayer so, but in his mind he was like no, it's cause I mixed the two, that's why this happened. CN: Okay did they, do you know, did the hospital test anything else or just lhe .. lhe one out of the Bayer bottle. JH: Just the one out of the Bayer. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay. Unk: (inaudible) there was a conversation that all three of you had, I just want to go back to ii a little bit, Kirk said something, we can't keep on doing this. What was.what did they, what did he mean by that, or what do you think he meant by ii, or do you know what he meant by it? JH: Um and I, and I tried to ask questions later and people said that, and Trevor and some other people did say that something similar lo this happened a couple of years ago so um I didn't ask Kirk specifically what that meant, but in my mind it.. it was like okay this has happened, and later on I was in the .. the lobby and Kirk was like, he just looked at me, he's like I have a feeling this has been going on for a long time and he's been hiding this. He was like, this ICR# 160"'255 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: MM Page 30 ( probably has been dated back from when he had that hip surgery. He was like, he was like, he was limping while he was sick that week, he was limping and .. and he kept you know, he just was like speculating like this might have been going on for a while, but 1..1 didn't ask him about what he meant by um we can't keep doing this. Um, but he was just talking to me about how he just felt like he's been doing a good job hiding this, he's like .. he's like it all makes sense, like all these mood swings, like he was kind of like piecing it together. Kirk was like you know, and I, yeah. · CN: Okay. Um anything else that Prince told you other than, and l .. you don't need to get into the spiritual stuff with me and whatnot... JH: Okay. CN: .. um or if it was anything super personal but, if..if it has something to do with um what he had taken or drugs br even if he's um depressed or things like that we would be interested in but meaning I don't want to pick your brain .. JH: Yeah. CN: .. if it was super personal stuff but anything else with Prince? JH: Um, I mean there's a lot of like, that was the mountain top, talking about the Atlanta show, now I can go away and rest and things like that. CN: Okay. JH: Um but in .. in terms of like pills, I think that was it, I think .. I mean I just kept explaining to him, reiterating to him, that the doctors, what the doctors kept saying, cause I just don't think he was getting it, I was like .. CN: Yeah. JH: They're say .. you know, we need to figure out what's happening with your organs, that was my main thing, I was like um, but he never really you know, when we first got there and we got into the room he just kind of looked at Prince, or Kirk and I, was like, and he was like sorry guys, you know and we're like huh, you know, why are you apologizing so, but as far as like pills and drugs no. CN: Okay and then any other conversations that you had with Kirk about this, you know, that day while were .. while you were in Atlanta? JH: He just kept you know, Kirk was like, what did he .. is he okay, like he was checking in with me a lot cause .. CN: Okay. JH: Um how's he doing, what's he saying, kind of that kind of thing. CN: Okay. ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:~ Page 31 "\ ( · JH: But um I mean we yeah, we had conversation about like, I was just like he's tripping off of what they gave him and like going down that rabbit hole and we were .. and he was like oh my god, why, it's like he finds a .. a rational..a way of thinking, Prince gets locked in and then that's when it goes that way, and so we were more just like discussing that but um .. CN: Any .. anything more with Kirk about past drug use or prescription use or you had mentioned that Kirk said something to you that I think this has maybe been going on longer, anything more? JH: Yeah I mean he was like, I think this has been going on longer, and he's like, he's like I finally got him to see my doctor like two weeks ago or something, he's like he·would .. it was, it was like a big thing like finally, cause it's just hard to get Prince to do anything you know, but ' that was about it you know. CN: Okay anything more, anything more about um his doctor then, about Kirk and Prince and the doctor, any more conversation about that? ( 'I JH: No he just said it just was like, I finally got him to see my doctor.. CN: Okay. JH: .. and that was like a big victory that was kind of.. CN: Okay. JH: .. that was it with that. CN: Okay, um any, any more talk about Percocet specifically with Kirk while you were there? JH: No. CN: Okay or the .. the mystery drug in the Bayer? JH: No. CN: Okay. Unk: How about after? JH: After the hospital? Unk: After the hospital, after um after Prince's passing ah .. JH: Oh, yeah I haven't spoken to Kirk about any of that stuff since, yeah, there's been no .. we, we haven't spoken about like the drugs and all but he just, when we were in Paisley for the little, little private memorial, you know, Kirk was just like talking about, he's just like it all makes sense now, like .. he just kept saying that like he knew this whole time, that's what he kept saying, it was just like .. and telling him about how you know, he's .. he was just saying you know, we're planning these summer shows and he .. he would say to Kirk like if I'm not there you'll still ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB~ Page 32 ( do it, right? That kind of stuff where it was getting really like whoa, like his statements were saying .. CN: Who, who would say that? JH: Prince. CN: Prince would say that if I'm not there .. JH: You'll still do these, these shows right? I mean those are just crazy statements. CN: So some of the things that you're, that you're telling us, I mean does .. I hate the word, I hate to use the word suicidal, but does Prince kind of seem depressed and like he's .. JH: Well it was fifty fifty for me .. CN: Okay. JH: .. because he did show, I mean he, Phaedra said that he took the tests and they took blood and everything on like Tuesday or something, that was a huge victory like he never would so he was definitely trying and he wanted it, but I think that there was a lot of his statements were also like accepting that he might not make it, it was that kind of stuff so I, I, l .. the first thing I did when I got back to Minneapolis and you know, we .. I stayed with Prince a little bit after that, we went up and watched movies and things and .. and he was like you know you're not saying this to anything .. anybody right now and I was like yeah, okay I'll keep it confidential. But I called Phaedra right away, I was like man he almost died, I told her, I was like .. and she was like what? She was just like .. he told me he was sleeping on the plane and that I know Judith is concerned but like it was like nothing like he was giving a whole nother story and um .. Unk: And who's Phaedra? JH: Phaedra is like, she's been running his affairs for a lot of things, like all his business you know, for a while. CN: Yeah. JH: So um, but you know, yeah there was a .. a lot of it was like you know like what he said in the .. the hospital you know, if it's on me, then it's on me, kind of like .. CN: Okay, just to not leave our chronological kind of route I've been taking us .. JH: Right. CN: .. so you fly home, you get back on .. is it a different plane? Same plane? JH: . It was a different plane, oh wait, yeah they couldn't.. they needed a different plane because the crew had left so we got another flight. CN: Okay anything ah that you would consider remarkable on the flight home, any conversations, any .. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B : . Page 33 JH: Ah everything was like more like he was making jokes about it like .. CN: Okay. JH: .. he's like I promise I'm sleeping Judith, that kind of thing. CN: Okay, no .. no specific conversations about what he had taken or anymore conversations about where he got what he took or .. JH: None of that. CN: .. none of that, nothing with Kirk and he? No, Kirk was like .. he's like you're going on a vaca, he was like, Kirk was like yes, I'm JH: going on a cruise, that kinq of thing, it was that kind of thing. ( CN: Okay, okay so no um nothing else remarkable? You get back to Minneapolis .. JH: Yeah get back to Minneapolis ah and we were just together. CN: Okay and is there a car waiting there then at the airport to take you guys back? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay and did all you guys go in the same car or? JH: No it was just Prince and I again. CN: Prince and you, okay and Kirk rode in a different car .. JI-I: Yeah, yeah. CN: Okay um that black bag um that we showed you the picture of, where did that.where did that black bag go, do you remember? JH: I don't even remember. I don't even know. I'm assuming that it was with Prince at that point, oh he had his cane, we walked out, yeah he had his cane and out of the hospital, it was like he was back to having his stuff I think. CN: Okay, okay and you said earlier that that bag is Prince's, that's his .. JH: Yes that's his bag. CN: .. that's his bag, okay. Um and he typically, he .. he has it with him? He controls it? JH: Yeah. CN: Um no one else carries it for ..for him or stocks it for him or .. ( ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:. . Page 34 ( JH: No that's his bag. CN: Okay.. JH: Yeah. CN: .. okay so you and Prince um drove back to Paisley then? JH: Yeah he drops me off at the hotel, he goes to Paisley, 1..1 like shower whatever and then I meet him for lunch at Paisley. CN: Okay. And um how was he then? How was he doing then? JH: He's really calm, he's kind of .. he didn't eat much, he never did ah he's just kind of very calm but he's talking about, he's gotta shake this off, he's got to get on stage or something and he was going to plan a party to make sure everyone knows he's all right.. ( CN: Okay . JH: .. and then we go upstairs to his bedroom and just watch like movies and things like that. CN: Okay when you say his bedroom um which, which room is !hat? JH: Um if you go upstairs, it's just directly above next to the stairs, you go in this little foye .. CN: Yeah. JH: .. and then there's this bedroom. CN: Is it green? Unk: The green room? JH: The green room. Unk: The green room. JH: The green room. CN: Yeah the green room, okay and do you know that to be his bedroom? JH: Yeah. CN: Is that.that's where he stays, that's where he sleeps? JH: Yes. CN: Um yeah up the stairs, so that's .. that's .. that's the room that leads into, the bedroom, this is kind of like a sitting room and I guess back here there would be a bed. ( 0099 ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, Page 35 JH: Yes: CN: Okay and bright green? JH: Yes. CN: Okay when you guys were hanging out, any .. any conversations about um the pill stuff or anymore .. JH: No more, no more pill stuff. CN: Okay. JH: It's all just kind of others like life and just what we're watching like documentaries and shows, documentary and things like that. CN: Okay. JH: Just completely unrelated to what just happened. CN: Okay um do you know, did um did he like to cover like his TV when he wasn't watching it with a sheet or something do you know? ( ( JH: Uh-hum. CN: Okay that was, that's typical. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay anything else about the room or um .. JH: No pills in the room ever. CN: No? JH: Never, his .. I mean his bathroom is so simple, it's like Listerine, toothpaste, like nothing. CN: Yep not a medicine cabinet.. JH: No, no medicine cabinet, nothing like .. nothing. CN: Okay. JH: But you know, he would always leave in the middle of the night. CN: Okay. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:. . Page 36 ( JH: I mean .. CN: And go .. JH: I always assumed it was his computer. CN: Okay. JH: I don't know. Unk: What side of the bed did he sleep on? JH: What? Unk: What side of the bed did he sleep on? JH: Ah there's a humid .. there's a the .. there's a the side where the telephone is. Unk: Okay so if you're laying in bed it would be the left side. Unk: As you .. JH: What? Unk: If you're laying in his bed or if he was laying in the bed ii would be his left side. JH: I'm so bad with, it's where the ah the phone is. Unk: Okay. JH: It's ah, it's on the bathroom side. Unk: Okay. CN: If you're, if you're standing facing the bed and the bed's right in front of you, it's on the .. the right side. If you're facing the bed. JH: Yes, yes. CN: Okay um do you know, you mentioned he would go to his computer or whatnot, do you know what, what ah computer he typically used? ( JH: Yeah he was .. it was a, it was his office. He would get up, he'd go and do emails. CN: Okay. JH: He was always leaving though. CN: Always leaving the bedroom or the .. ICR# 16011-25 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB MM Page 37 ( ( I JH: He never sleeps through the night. CN: Okay. JH: But !..it was always either to the computer room or something like that. CN: Okay and that, the computer room or is that the office then? JH: Yes. CN: So it would be like a, the desktop .. JH: Yes. CN: .. computer there. Um any other computers that you know that he used or .. JH: No. CN: Okay you never saw him using laptops? JH: Oh yeah, on the road. CN: On .. on the road, okay. JH: Yeah there's a little thin, thin laptop. CN: Okay, do you know, how would you describe that one? JH: It's thin, it's almost like an Airbook, its very .. CN: Okay. JH: .. very thin laptop. CN: Gray like an Airbook? Gray and thin? JH: Yeah, yeah like a gray, yeah. CN: And that one you'd bring on the road? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay do you know um, did he have a cell phone? JH: No. CN: Okay, do you .. did he ever have a cell phone since you've known him? JH: Not since I, not since I, no. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B : . Page 38 ,,... \ ( CN: Okay do you know how he communicated with people? JH: Mainly through email but calling .. CN: Okay. JH: .. from landlines if he wanted to talk to you. CN: Okay is that how he would speak with you .. JH: Yeah. CN: .. or communicate with you, he'd call you? JH: Mainly yeah, call me .. CN: Okay. JH: .. email me and say can we, can we talk and then he'd call me. CN: Okay what email address would you receive emails from him at? JH: T h - i t ' s lik. CN: JH: Yep. CN: - JH: . - . yeah. CN: Okay any other email addresses? JH: No. CN: Okay. JH: I mean he would email me sometimes through Twitter. CN: Okay do you remember what his ah what his Twitter name was? JH: Oh like the address? I don't.. it just always said Prince or @3rdeyegirl but then he changed it to @Prince. CN: Okay. JH: Right. ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:. Page 39 ( . CN: Okay um how about text messaging? JH: No. CN: Okay any type of messaging? Any type of lnstagram ah .. JH: Ah no. For me it was just the email, calling ah sometimes he would .. he would call wherever I would be, he would just where are you and get the number, it was mainly my cell phone but if I was at a hotel or stuff like that he would get it on then Twitter. CN: Okay did he, did he use other people's cell phones to communicate do you know? JH: He used my cell phone to .. whenever he needed to get to Kirk or something. CN: Okay. JH: He would call and tell me to call Kirk or something like that CN: Okay, and .. and would those usually be voice calls or.. JH: Yeah oh he'd call me and and say tell Kirk we need this or that, that kind of thing. CN: Okay um do you remember ah a red laptop computer at all ever? JH: No. CN: Okay um what else about communications. Unk: Were you ever in his office? JH: Oh yeah all the time. Unk: Okay. Where, where was the .. was it a computer tower that he used? JH: It was like yeah ah, yeah. Unk: Okay and the office we're talking about is the larger one that is close to the entrance .. JH: Yeah, yeah .. Unk: .. the main .. JH: .. upstairs. Unk: .. oh it was upstairs. JH: Yeah. CN: Yeah. ( { ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB'!!' Page 40 ( Unk: Okay. JH: Upstairs there's a piano in there, I don't know ifthere is now but.. Unk: Okay. JH: .. ah there's a couch, there's the desk, a computer, I think there are I'm not sure but then I think there was a tower. · even two screens ah, Unk: Okay. CN: Yeah up along the wall where there's several doors all down that hallway. JH: Yeah, it was the first.. CN: Yeah the office, kind of the first one .. JH: Yeah. CN: .. okay and so that's where, do you think, in your experience that's where he did most of is emailing from or .. JH: Yeah, in my experience yeah. CN: Okay, how about when he was on the road, was he emailing people with the laptop or .. JH: Yeah he would email still. CN: Okay. JH: He was still in touch .. CN: Okay. JH: .. I think it was through the laptop. ! CN: Okay and again but as far as you know um with like chat type stuff, I Message, all that type of .. JH: Yeah, no, no. CN: Okay, okay so we were talking kind of about that night and you said he never slept through the night and he would get up and use the computer .. JH: I wasn't um I wasn't with him that night, I left um, I'm just talking about in general. CN: Yeah, yeah. JH: But I left that day, I left um, I stayed with him upstairs and we watched a few movies and then my flight was that evening. ICR#160~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B LMM Page 41 ( CN: Okay on .. on the 15th your .. JH: Yeah, yeah. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay and you said that he was talking to you about he wants to do a show or throw a party and show people .. JH: Yeah. CN: .. he's .. JH: Yeah which was the next day, yeah. CN: .. next day okay. JH: He wanted me totweet that I was in the show at the show and everything was amazing just to .. CN: Okay and that's what I was going to ask. Did he, did he ask you or anyone ask you to .. to say anything about that trip to Atlanta or.. JH: Yeah he wanted me to say he .. I was at the show and that it was great.. CN: Okay. JH: .. so he could retweet it to show people things were .. CN: Okay so he wanted you to tweet on the 15th about the show that he did the night before that everything was good. JH: Yeah, yeah. CN: Okay, so I think at 2:50 in the afternoon on the 15th you did have a tweet that said .. JH: Yeah, yeah. CN: .. it was a good show and okay. JH: Right, yeah. CN: Okay um so you leave Paisley, you catch your flight home, anything else about this trip, and you told us a lot.. JH: Yeah. ICR# 160--25 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: MM Page 42 ( CN: .. and you're, and you're doing great. JH: Um drug related, I can't think of.. of anything .. CN: Okay. JH: .. about that trip you know, or in general, I mean .. CN: Okay. JH: .. I mean I could, yeah about that trip, yeah. CN: Okay ah anybody .. so after this happens and the plane has to land, did anyone else contact you or talk to you about what to say or what should we do about this or.. ( \ JH: No. CN: No. JH: Um I, I just called Phaedra and told her.. CN: Yep. JH: .. what was up, that was about it. Ah oh yeah, I mean Prince was trying to get ahold of Kirk, what's that for. .. it was something like, I don't remember why he wanted to get a hold of Kirk, 1..1..it must have been something small, but he wanted to find out what the name of this drug was that.they gave him .. CN: Oh, okay. JH: .. that was like a thing and he got, Kirk got the name of it and stuff like that so he wanted Phaedra to investigate it. CN: Okay did Kirk tell you that he got the name of it or Kirk .. JH: Yeah he had writ.we wrote it down, got it from the doctor when we were in the .. CN: Oh, okay before you left? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay, okay um did you then in this next week have more conversations with Prince? Did you talk to him more? JI-I: We stayed in .. in touch. CN: Okay. JH: Through email, there was a lot of emails going back and forth .. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:""" Page 43 CN: Okay. JH: .. and he just kept me abreast about everything, like hey I went bike riding today, this and that, the party, I told him you know this and that and showed them my guitar, whatever, just. .just telling me and a lot of discussion about my music, I had a new record and he was excited for me and things like that. CN: Okay um nothing about.about his ah future care or anything about what he was going to do you know, with this .. this problem that kind of had you know, come to light? Um well I just kepi, I was like telling Phaedra make sure he goes to the doc, like that JH: was .. but from him I didn't push it, he only just.. these last words from me is you know, something tells me or it feels like your stay here was too short, that's what he told me. · CN: Okay, okay how about um from Kirk or Meroil or Phaedra, any conversations that you had with them about what to do or what should be done or .. JH: Well Phaedra said, she was like so he did reach .. he did tell Meron to set up an appointment for the doctor, that's what she was telling me um I mean my conversation with Phaedra, we were going back and forth about what to do .. CN: Okay. JH: .. and I was just trying to .. I was like, well you got..you have to .. he has to take the tests, he said he would do them once he got home .. ( CN: Okay. JH: .. you know, so it was that kind of conversation. Meron text me and was like that must have been so traumatic for you, you know, that was .. it was .. that was about it from her.. CN: Yep. JH: .. um. CN: Were you part of any um conversations about the ah .. ah is it Recovery Without Walls? Doctor Kornfeld? JH: Well yeah, I mean, I mean after his passing you know, Phaedra's like we were doing everything, we even got.after your call like we went, we got you know detox, we got him on a pro ..we were, it was like and he took the tests and so she was just like devastated cause she was like I don't know what happened, we were doing everything based upon _like what we kneV'( you know, but she .. CN: Yeah. .. didn't specifically tell me. 1.. 1think for me, I had to clarify with her through text after my JH: phone conversation with her that, cause I was like he wasn't breathing, like that was my thing, like he was almost. .he was dead like in my mind and then I was like wait, was he breath .. cause 1.. 1was like maybe he was breathing so I was like, I text Kirk, I was like was he breathing and he ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOBl!lfl Page 44 ( was like yeah he was breathing, I was like okay and I had to clarify that with Phaedra like he was breathing I guess, it didn't look like it, but that kind of thing. CN: Okay. Unk: But you didn't have any role in setting up the .. the Doctors Without Borders intervention .. JH: No . Unk: .. you, you left it to Phaedra to coordinate that.. JH: Yeah Phaedra, yeah. Unk: .. oh Phaedra, I'm sorry. JH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. CN: day? Okay the last time um that you spoke or had communication with Prince was on what JH: Monday. CN: Monday, okay. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay, okay anything else guys about the trip? Unk: Yeah, um the second body guard .. JH: Yeah . Unk: .. was that a body guard that would often travel or not travel or .. ( JH: He was um, he started to um in the last few months, I had seen him..that was my second time seeing him, he was .. Unk: Do you know what his name was? JH: I forget his name um he did the DC show and then I think he was traveling with Prince for some other stuff recently. Unk: Older guy, younger guy? JH: Older. Unk: White guy, black guy? . JH: Black guy, yeah . { ' ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B : . Page 45 ( Unk: How old do you think he was? JH: Late 50's? Something like that. Unk: Did you ever see him at Paisley? JH: No, he was always like on the road person. Unk: Okay. JH: Yeah. Unk: And you just saw him the last few, few times? JH: Yeah, yeah. Unk: Okay. JH: Yeah. CN: Who would know his name? I think we might know his name, but who .. JH: Oh Kirk .. Kirk would know. CN: Kirk knows, okay. Unk: Okay. CN: I think we know who it is, but okay. Unk: Um when you said you were at the concert um the owner of Electric Fetus .. JH: Yeah, he was like the son of the owner or someone, something something like that. Unk: So he's the son of the owner, so there .. was there one or two people? JH: It was one, one person. Unk: One, one person. JH: He invited him to the show.. Unk: Okay. JH: .. to come back stage to talk about.he's like I wanted you to see this show so you could see what we do here and that kind of thing and .. Unk: What was, do you remember what his name was? JH: I don't. D08e' ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, Page 46 ( Unk: Okay. JH: He was a younger guy. Unk: Like what age? JH: Maybe like in his thirties um he's yeah, he's part of Electric Fetus. Unk: Okay. CN: And we're talking Electric Fetus in Minneapolis? JH: Yeah. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. Unk: Um .. CN: And he's maybe the owner's son .. JH: Something like that like he wasn't the main guy, he was like a part of Electric Fetus. Unk: Okay did anybody say that he was the owners son or .. JH: How did I know .. um what, oh my god, was it Prince or him, I don't remember who said it. Unk: Okay but you knew, somehow you knew it was potentially was the son of the, of the owner. JH: Yeah. Unk: Okay. JH: Yeah, he was either .. he was in charge or son or whatever, something like that. CN: Does Kirk know him? JH: I don't know. CN: Okay. JH: I don't think, I mean maybe, I have no idea, I have no idea. CN: Okay. Unk: Okay um what were the two other .. Meron, did you know Meron? ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, 0 0 8 : - Page 47 ( JH: Yeah. Unk: How long was Meron with Prince? JH: She came on around the same time I did. Unk: Okay. JH: She was a new assistant, actually I knew um Mariah was the assistant before her.. Unk: Okay. JH: .. I came in around the time Mariah was still the assistant and then she was new so around like early beginning of 2015 or something. Unk: Okay and what did, what did Meron do? JH: · She was his assistant so she would do everything from get him food every day, things like that ah travel with him, whatever needed to happen. But when um, yeah, I mean their roles kind of got more intense as the time .. because Phaedra stepped out for a second .. Unk: Um .. JH: .. she went on and that's when Meron had more on her plate, like had to run more and Trevor was running the label but then he got, he stepped out so then at the end it was like Meron, then I think Phaed .. he got Phaedra back in the game .. Unk: Uh-hum. JH: .. so her role has been from the beginning it was like personal assistant, then she had to handle more, then she handled a little bit more so she's yeah. Unk: Um pretty close to Prince or with Meron or was it just really more of a just.it was just business and they weren't.. ( ·~ ' JH: Well she, she tells me that it was just..nothing's happened with them. Unk: Okay um, um .. CN: Do you know Mariah's last name? JH: I don't. CN: How about Trevor? JH: Guy. CN: Trevor Guy. Unk: The Welton's. Do you know who they are? •' ICR# 160--559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: MM Page 48 ( JH: They're very .. yeah. Unk: Okay tell me a little bit about them um their connection. JH: Oh they're um well Hannah was his drummer.. Unk: Okay. JH: .. and. Josh.ua is ah did a lot of production in, on the records and was also auxiliary keyboardist in the show so they had a big role, they were very close to Prince. Prince liked them a lot. They .. he thought they were like his kids. Unk: Okay. JH: Yeah. Unk: And .. any .. ever discussion, disparaging discussions between the other staff about them or concerns about them or.. JH: No I think it was difficult when Hannah decided to have a baby and that's when 3rdeyegirl kind of fell apart .. Unk: ( Okay. JH: .. and I know he really wanted 3rdeyegirl to continue but she felt like it was a time for her to .. to move on and .. or not move on, they were still living in the house and he really loved them to pieces so .. Unk: Uh-hum. JH: .. they were still very much involved even though 3rdeyegirl had kind of disbanded .. Unk: Uh-hum. JH: .. um but they were still very much a part of his life. Unk: So did the Welton's live in a house that Prince owned? JH: Uh-hum. Unk: Okay .. JH: They live next to Kirk, yeah they both .. Unk: Oh they, they live next to Kirk, okay. JH: .. their two houses are like this. · Unk: Okay, did Meron live in one of the houses or no? ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B : . Page 49 ( JH: No she lives at home. Unk: Okay, all right. CN: Did um or who do you consider to be the people that are closest or that were closest to Prince, like his inner circle? JH: Well it dep .. it's, it's tricky cause he's close to everyone but Hannah and Josh, well Joshua was like. his son, so he really loved Joshua. Meron, the assistant, so she was there for a lot of it, um Phaedra, she ran all the stuff, Kirk ran all the stuff, so that.. that would, those were like in my world, that was .. those were like the four, aside from me, I was very close to him but aside from me that was like kind of the people I knew. CN: Okay this might be an odd question, do you know, did .. did Prince use the elevator in his house? ( JH: All the time. CN: Okay you'd see him or be with him? JH: Oh yeah, that's how he kind of got up and down. CN: Okay, he .. he would use it, okay. JH: All the time. CN: Rewind here, let me touch on one thing, when you guys were in .. in Moline when the plane landed um do you know who Kirk was calling at all, did you .. did he talk about who he was calling or who he was reaching out to or.. JH: I know he spoke to Phaedra. CN: Okay. JH: I don't know who else he was calling. CN: Okay. JH: But I know it was Phaedra. CN: Okay you'd mentioned that he went out of the room and was contacting people or .. JH: Yeah he was in the other room so he was on the phone a lot but 1.. 1don't know other than Phaedra, I don't know .. CN: Okay. JH: .. who else he was talking to. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, D O B : - ~ Page 50 ' CN: I'm getting down there. Unk: So Kirk never, about the Percocet issue, Kirk never said anything about um how Prince got the Percocet, did he say anything about that? JH: No, not any .. nothing. Unk: And you haven't talked to him since .. JH: No, not since .. I mean we've spoken about this tribute, texting me about me being involved in the tribute, but we haven't caught up about like everything else. Unk: Okay. CN: Okay, Ms. Hill has anyone told you what to say or what not to say, has anyone reached out to you? Sometimes when things like this happen, people don't want certain things said or want people to say things a certain way, has anyone reached out to you about this issue and .. JH: Um Sheila. CN: Okay. JH: Oh she, 1.. 1know Sheila well .. CN: Okay. .. and she was just trying to be very protective of me and she's like you know you can't JH: say anything right, you know .. and that was it, I mean she was like if you needed a lawyer, if anyone comes out we can help you with that. She's the only one. CN: Okay no one else has tried to yeah, sway you, what you might say or .. JH: No. CN: Okay, okay. And I think you've already answered this and obviously we, you know, we know the cause of the death and prescription medication and pills and whatnot are very concerning to us and um do you have any knowledge at all about where he would get pills or medicines or medications, whether it's from medical personnel, from you know, drug dealers, illicit means .. JH: Yeah, right, yeah I can't, I don't know. I have no idea. CN: Okay do you, do you have any .. any communications saved whether they're emails or text messages or phone messages that you think are pertinent to this investigation? JH: Ah I can't imagine, I mean there's loads of emails between him and I I mean .. CN: Pertinent to .. JH: I mean sometime just stuff about him sleeping a lot, I mean that's not really .. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:. . Page 51 CN: Yeah. JH: .. nothing lik.e drugs, like anything like suspicious, nothing like that. c'N: Okay, do you have anything that you think might be of evidentiary value for us, something that would ah help us in this investigation outside the communications? Um I mean when we'd travel he'd go by Mr. Bravestrong, like that was his name, I don't JH: know, I don't know if that is anything .. ( CN: Peter .. Peter Bravestrong. JH: Yeah Mr. Bravestrong, Peter Bravestrong. CN: Okay. JH: Ah I mean .. CN: Any other names? JH: No not that I know of. CN: Okay would he ah, would he check into hotels with that name or .. JH: Yeah. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah. CN: Anything else guys? Unk: Um what's your email address, you started it and then you started .. JH: A..-- Unk: I was going to say something and now I can't remember. CN: Think about it. Ms. Hill, I like to ask everyone this question .. JH: Yep. CN: .. if, if you were conducting this investigation, who would you talk to? What else would you do? A lot.sometimes people have great ideas. JH: Oh I would go um, I would talk to some of the older people that worked with him also. CN: Okay. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB: . . . . Page 52 .. ( JH: Cause there's loads of people that work with him. CN: Yeah. JH: There's loads of ex-managers and people that seem to know more about him as a .. CN: Yep. JH: .. when he's going through his pain like Kiran, she knows a lot, stuff like that I would probably go back um I, if I was conducting it yeah, I guess I would talk to as many people as possible because he was very .. ! would talk to all the girlfriends, I mean cause he opens up you know .. CN: Okay. JH: .. you see he opens up differently when you're his girlfriend. CN: Okay. JH: He .. Unk: Do you know who his past girlfriends are? CN: I was going to say are you comfortable telling us names of.. of ah past girlfriends? Some we may know, some we may not. ( JH: Man, I'm going to go, I would guess, yeah I mean .. I know, I mean .. okay, it's so crazy, I mean I guess you could say Andy Allo before me, Bria Valente, I mean then after that I mean it.everything else is all what 1..1 read on-line. 1..1 don't really and these are people that.he never told me, like we would never discuss that you know, so this is all obviously what's obvious to me from what I've read and what I know from other people. CN: Okay. JH: But anybody like on that.. with that kind of role would know him best, I mean he .. he, he hides from staff, I mean, they just have to follow orders you know, but.. CN: What do you mean hides from staff? JH: Well like the way he was telling Meron like I'm fine, like her whole version of it is like .. he didn't tell her anything about..! think it's just kind of like you know. CN: Okay and so the couple of ex-girlfriends and obviously we mention Kirk a lot, we mention ah Meron, we mention Phaedra because we know these certain people are .. JH: The last few .. CN: .. the last few, yep. JH: .. but there's loads of..loads of chapters .. ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOBlfi1•• ""rMM Page 53 ( ' CN: Yep. JH: .. and they're all as intense as the four of five of us, there would be like replaced and there would be like as intense, like Mariah was Meron before that and before her it was someone else, they all like experienced the same thing we experienced in different seasons of his life and they all have a whole world of their own experience of him and his seasons you know. CN: Yeah. JH: So there's probably more clues there in every .. CN: Sure, yep. JH: .. you know. Unk: Do you know if.. did Prince wear his clothes a certain way and did he have any superstitions or anything like that? Um he .. he always wore this .. this tank top inside out, no .. superstitions, I don't..! don't JH: know, no jeans like he's like don't wear jeans, I don't, I don't know .. ( Unk: Like he would just wear tight pants with no pockets a lot of times. JH: Oh right, yeah. Unk: Okay. JH: Yeah no pockets, yeah that's right, I mean a lot of it was made by this one designer and then ah some stuff he would wear Magpie stuff and things like that but yeah, but yeah I don't know of any superstitions. Unk: Okay. CN: Ms. Hill is there anything that we haven't asked you that you think is important. JH: Ah I can't think of anything. Unk: Any late night people coming when you were there, just odd hours of the time that's weird? JH: No, never saw anybody, never. He drives a lot you know .. Unk: Oh he did. JH: Yeah we would go grocery shopping at four in the morning, stuff like that. Or we'd go to Walgreens to get chocolate and .. oh he loved the 5-Hour, the 5-Hour Energy drinks was terrible, those he would get all the time. But I didn't see anyb0dy come to Paisley or anything like that. ( ICR# 16012559 Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB""' Page 54 Unk: Did you ever make any stops, kind of unannounced stops that people, at other persons, places, or maybe you didn't go in or just thought it was odd or .. JH: No. CN: What we're getting at Ms. Hill, not to beat around the bush, I mean people who um, people who use drugs of whether their illicit or prescription drugs or whatnot and sometimes both, they have to get them somewhere .. JH: Yeah. CN: .. and, and there .. there are various ways that they get them um, if you're up on current events in the, the prescription drug world like we are cause that's what we do um people are buying and selling pills on the streets, they've been doing it for years um people get pills from doctors, people get pills from pharmacy's,· pharmacists you know, there's all these different various ways .. ( JH: Right. CN: .. so that's one of the things of course that we are looking at.. JI-I: Yeah. CN: .. is where, where did these drugs come from .. JH: Right. CN: .. and there could be various different ways. JH: Yeah, it's .. it's .. CN: And we're not trying to um disparage anyone's reputation or anything like that.. JH: Yeah. .. I mean it kind of is what it is now, ah our job is to ah primarily find out what the truth is CN: and what happened and then our greater job is to try and make an impact on this to try and stop it.. JH: Yes, yes. CN: .. so this doesn't continue happening you know, over and over and over again .. JH: Right. CN: .. like it is right now. JH: Yeah, I wish I had .. I wish I had more, I don't.I can't imagine where he got it. 1..1 really, it couldn't have been Kirk or Meron, it's like I don't know who else, I mean unless he had like a.. I mean but then he would have to email the person like I .don't even know. ICR#16~ Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB . . . . . LMM Page 55 CN: Yep. JH: Cause it's like how else is he going to get ahold, unless you know, cause he would phone .. the phone, maybe it was a phone number, but um I have no idea. ( CN: Packages mailed to the house while you were there? FedEx, UPS? JH: FedEx's yeah. CN: Yeah. JH: Yeah stuff like that. CN: Was that pretty common? JH: Yeah he'd get stuff a lot. Unk: Did you ever look at the addresses of the packages at all? JH: No, I don't know, there's all kinds of stuff, clothes or whatever. CN: Yeah. JH: Yeah. Unk: Knowing that your part, you were a big part of his life here at the last couple of years, have a lot of people been reaching out to you trying to talk to you, try to elicit you for information? JH: Yeah. CN: Yeah, has anybody said anything that you thought maybe they know more? JH: Oh no. Unk: No nothing like that? JH: I mean other older people know more about him .. Unk: Uh-hum. JH: .. if they knew him longer but .. CN: But conversations that you've had since this has happened, there isn't a person that you would say when you were kind of giving us your list of who you think we should talk to um no one would stick out since this has happened that called and said something weird or.. JH: No. ICR#160= Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:'!!!:\"' Page 56 /,,,,--·-~. I I ·cN: And I know this is .. JH: Tyka knew that she was, she knew he was dying I guess two years, she knew something. CN: Something .. JH: She said, she was like oh I knew my brother was going, I've known ii for two years now. CN: Okay and that was after he passed away? JH: This was yeah, at the memorial. CN: Did she say that publicly to people or just privately to you? JH: No just to me. CN: Okay. JH: Yeah, l..yeah. CN: Okay. If um, if something comes up, if you remember something else obviously through your attorney, um feel free to contact us um again we really appreciate you talking to us and I know some of this is hard and .. ( JH: Uh-hum. CN: If anything else comes up though, please .. please let us know. RD: Okay, we absolutely will, okay. CN: Do you have any questions for us? RD: I don't, no. CN: Probably a lot that we couldn't answer but ah .. RD: Nah that's all right INADVERTENT ERRORS AND/OR OMISSIONS MAY HAVE OCCURRED DURING THE TRANSCRIBING OF THIS CONVERSATION. PLEASE REFER TO TAPE FOR PRECISE DIALOGUE. ICR#160=. Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:'!'lr Page 57