MAY 14, 2014 FAR BAR MEETING WITH BRIAN MCCARTIN
Brian McCartin ("Det. Mccartin") called me (Robert Rabbani) and told me that they had found
and interviewed an additional witness for this case. To thank them for their relentless
investigation of this case, I offered to buy Det. McCartin and the other detectives a drink that
night. Det. McCartin and I, however, decided to meet on Wednesday instead.
On May 14, 2014, at around 6:45 p.m., Det. Mccartin, one of our law clerks, and I met at Justice
Restaurant and Bar, located in the Double Tree Hotel on First Street. Det. McCaiiin and I each
had one drink. We then went to Far Bar Restaurant and Bar, also on First Street in Little Tokyo,
where we met Guy Iverson ("Iverson"), a federal public defender and longtime friend of Det.
McCartin. We ordered food and drinks and the conversation was friendly and apolitical. We were
then joined by Iverson's colleague, Peter Arian ("Arian"). Apparently, Det. McCartin and Arian
knew each other from prior meetings. Once Arian arrived, the conversation turned into a spirited
political debate covering topics from detainees at Guantanamo Bay, to drone strikes, to
the death penalty.
We were watching the Kings game and after the game, Iverson left. Det. McCartin got up and
without letting us know, settled the entire bill. Arian had put his coat on and was ready to leave
as well. I asked Det. McCartin to wait until I finished my drink. He agreed and sat down. Arian
decided to stay as well. Arian then began questioning the integrity and credibility of the LAPD,
stating that there was pervasive corruption throughout the department. I defended the LAPD,
stating that I have not come across anything that I thought suggested corruption.
Det. McCartin was angered and called Arian a "fucking moron," told him that he was "fucking
stupid" and that he "doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about." Det. Mccartin described
how in the 1980s and 1990s he handled multiple call-outs for gang-related murders each night
and how gang members terrorized the law abiding majority of the community. In that context,
Det. McCartin called the gang members "assholes" and "thugs." In that same context, he said
something to the effect of, "I was out there with those niggers." Referring to the gang members,
he then stated, "They call themselves that." Det. Mccartin asked, "What, you've never used that
word in the privacy of your own living room?" Arian answered, "No, you don't know my wife's
ethnicity. She would take offense to that." I stated, "No, you can't say that." Arian then asked,
"What if my wife is black?" I do not recall Det. McCartin's response, if any. I ended the
conversation and indicated that it was time to leave.
Arian, the law clerk, and I walked out of the restaurant and waited for Det. McCartin. While we
were waiting, Arian and I talked about being trial attorneys. After a while, we all left. It turned
out that Det. McCaiiin was talking to someone else in the bar and left through a different door.
It should be noted that the longer quotations are paraphrased to the best of my recollection.
Further, prior to that night, I have never heard Det. McCartin use any derogatory term towards

 any group. I have never heard Det. Mccartin express any kind of bias towards anyone, whether
race-based, gender-based, religion-based, or otherwise.