Whelan, M Edward III Whelan, M Edward III Thursday, September 20, 2001 9:49 AM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' Comments on Title IV of draft bill From: Sent: To: Subject: A handful of comments: 1. . (b) (5) l f . One simple fix would b . (b) (5) E.g.: . (b) (5) ng al 8. . 2. y: (b) (5) e. e". to ty es ms n. . e. s. . If you want me to draft language to address (b) and (c), let me know. 3. (b) (5) s: d. urt he se h. . 4. (b) (5) : . E.g.: t (b) (5) ." 5. (b) (5) ". Document ID: 0.7.18648.5030 Helgard_C._ Walke·r@who.eop.gov Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2001 3:10 PM To: Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Cc: Subject: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Jay_P._Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov; Rebecca_A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_O._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steven_O._Aitken@omb.eop.gov (b) (5) RE: OLC: Airline Board Attachments: pic05304.pcx (b) (5) Brett M. Kavanaugh 10/ 04/2001 02:58:04 PM Record Type: Record To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message bee: (b) (5) Airline Board {Document Subject: RE: OLC: link: Helgard C. Walker) (b) (5) Yes. We were told by OLC on the morning of Friday the 21st that . Joel and I so informed the congressional staffs and some Members. We were not involved in the negotiations about this specific issue, however. The negotiations entailed the 4 leaders {Oaschle, Lott, Hastert, Gephardt) sitting in a room with 2 staff members each during (b) (5) . The compromise apparently lunch on the 21st. Gephardt apparently still insisted on reached among these 4 leaders -- who were apparently aware of the OLC advice and Administration (b) (5) . position -- was to Document ID: 0.7.18648.5127 Ed advises (b) (5) . Let me know if you have further questions. Helgard C. Walker 10/ 04/2001 02:46:ll.8 PM Record Type : Record To: "Whelan, M Edward Ill" , Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: Jay P. Lefkowitz/OMB/EOP@ EOP, Rebecca A. Beynon/OMB/EOP@EOP, Joel D. Kaplan/WHO/EOP@EOP, Steven D. Aitke n/OMB/EOP@ EOP bee: (b) (5) Subject: RE: OLC: Airline Board {Document link: Brett M. Kavanaugh) Brett, do you remember dealing with/thinking about this issue during the legislative process? {Embedded image moved "Wh elan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/04/2001 01:50:28 PM pic05304.pcx) Record Type : Record To: Jay P. Lefkowitz/OMB/EOP, Rebecca A. Beynon/OMB/EOP cc: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/EO P, Joel D. Kaplan/WHO/EOP, Steven D. Aitke n/OMB/EOP (b) (5) Subject: RE: OLC: Airline Board Document ID: 0.7.18648.5127 (b) (5) I haven't had time to review it with care yet, but . (b) (5) One solution might be to . ---Original Message--From: Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov [mailto:Jay_P._Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 20011:33 PM To: Rebecca_A._Beynon@omb.eop.gov Cc: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Jay_Lefkowitz@dc.kirkland.com; Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov; Joel_O._ Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steven_O._Aitken@omb.eop.gov (b) (5) Airline Board Subject: Re: OLC: This was an issue that came up during the drafting and I thought solved the problem. (b) (5) Is that not correct? From: Rebecca A. Beynon on 10/04/2001 01:28:35 PM Record Type: Record To: Jay Lefkowitz, Helgard C. Walker/WHO/EOP@EOP, Joel 0. Kaplan/WHO/EO P@ EOP, Steven 0. Aitken/OM B/ EOP@ EOP cc: M.edward .whelan@usdoj.gov (b) (5) Subject: OLC: Airline Board Ed Whelan from OLC has just raised with me the point that (b) (5) . He hasn't formed a definite opinion yet, but wanted t o bring the issue to our attention. Ed, could you supply a little more information? Thanks very much. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5127 Message Copied To:_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ "whelan, m edward iii" jay p. lefkowitz/omb/eop@eop rebecca a. beynon/omb/eop@eop joel d. kaplan/who/ eop@eop steven d. aitken/ omb/ eop@eop Document ID: 0.7.18648.5127 Document ID: O.7.18648.5127-000001 Jay_P._Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov Jay_ P. _ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov From: Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2001 3:19 PM To: Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov Ce: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov; Jay_P._ Lefkowit z@omb.eop.gov; Re becca_A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_D._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steve n_ D._Aitken@omb.eop.gov Subject: RE: OLC: Attachments: pic03867 .pcx (b) (5) Airline Board (b) (5) . (b) (5) . Helgard C. Walker 10/ 04/2001 03:11:55 PM Record Type: Record To: Jay P. Lefkowit z/OM B/ EOP@ EOP cc: See the distribut ion list at the bottom of this message bee: (b) (5) Airline Board {Docume nt Subject: RE: OLC: link: Jay P. Lefko witz) As you can see from the email that I just sent out, Jay P. Lefkowitz 10/ 04/ 2001 02:59:04 PM Record Type : Record Document ID: 0.7.18648.5162 (b) (5) To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message bee: (b) (5) Subject: RE: OLC: Airline Board {Document link: Helgard C. Walker) Helgi: Can you give us a hand with an insert to (b) (5) thanks very much Brett M. Kavanaugh 10/ 04/ 2001 02:58:04 PM Record Type: Record To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message bee: (b) (5) Airline Board {Document Subject: RE: OLC: link: Jay P. Lefkowitz) duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5162 duplicate duplicate duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5162-000001 Joel_O._ Kaplan@who.eop.gov From: Joel_O._Kaplan@who.eop.gov Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:58 PM To: Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Ce: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov; Jay_P._Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov; Rebecca_A._Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_O._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steven_O._Aitken@omb.eop.gov Subject: RE: OLC: (b) (5) (b) (5) ? (b) (5) ? Document ID: 0.7.18648.5171 Airline Board Jay_ P._Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov From: Se nt: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:04 PM To: Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov Ce: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov; Rebecca_A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_O._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steven_O._Aitken@omb.eop.gov Subject: RE: OLC: Attachments: pic23291.pcx (b) (5) Airline Board I talked with Walker's GC who is sensitive to the issue, and I will be speaking with him and Walker at 5:30. (b) (5) . Helgard C. Walker 10/04/2001 03:50:18 PM Record Type : Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP@ EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message bee: (b) (5) Airline Board {Document Subject: RE: OLC: link: Jay P. Lefko witz) (b) (5) I think that is an excellent suggestion In the meantime, I'll try and come up with some language. If OLC has any ideas as a starting point, I'd lo ve t o hear them. Brett M. Kavanaugh 10/04/2001 03:42:49 PM Record Type : Record Document ID: 0.7.18648.5037 To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/ EOP@EOP cc: See the distribut ion list at the bottom of this message bee: (b) (5) Subject: RE: OLC: Airline Board {Docume nt link: Helgard C. Walker) (b) (5) . One way to do this is (b) (5) . Helgard C. Walker 10/ 04/2001 03:11:55 PM Record Type : Record To: Jay P. Lefkowitz/ OM B/ EOP@ EOP cc: See the d istribution list at the bottom of this message bee: duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5037 duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5037-000001 Helgard_C._ Walke·r@who.eop.gov Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:16 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Cc: Subject: Jay_P._Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Rebecca_A._Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_D._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steven_D._Aitken@omb.eop.gov (b) (5) RE: OLC: Airline Board Attachments: pic18686.pcx Interesting point. I think, however, that (b) (5) Other views? {Embedded image moved "Whelan, M Edward Ill" to file: 10/04/2001 04:01:53 PM pic18686.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Jay P. Lefkowitz/OM B/ EOP@ EOP, Helgard C. Walker/WHO/EOP@ EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message Subject: RE: OLC: (b) (5) Airline Board An additional comment: It is not at all clear to me that . As I read the Act, Rather, I simply want to point out t Document ID: 0.7.18648.5065 (b) (5) (b) (5) I don't mean t o argue this point here. (b) (5) (b) (5) . ----Original Message----From: Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov [mailto:Jay_P._Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:52 PM To: Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov Cc: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@,omb.eop.gov; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Helgard_C._Wa lker@who.eop.gov; Rebecca_A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_D._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steven_D._Aitken@omb.eop.gov (b) (5) Subject: RE: OLC: Airline Board I have already put in a call. I' II let you know as soon as I speak with Walker. Helgard C. Walker 10/04/2001 03:50:ll.8 PM Record Type: Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP@EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message bee: duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5065 duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5065-000001 Whela n, M Edward Ill From: Whelan, M Edward Ill Se nt: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:17 PM To: 'Jay_P._Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov' Cc: 'Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov'; ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov'; ' Re bec ca_A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov'; 'Joel_D._Ka plan@who.eop.gov'; 'Steven_D._Aitken @omb.eop.gov' Subject: RE : OLC: (b) (5) (b) (5) I think Airline Board ought to be something like the following: (b) (5) " ." -- --Original Message---From: Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov [mailto:Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:08 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Cc: Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Re becca_A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_D._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steve n_D._Aitken @omb.eop.gov (b) (5) Airline Board Subject : RE: OLC: If Ed's suggestion i.s the consensus view, then I don't believe I will have a hard time selling that to (b) (5) . Walker. {Embedded image moved "Wh e lan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/ 04/ 2001 04:01:53 PM pic09837.pcx) Record Type : Record To: Jay P. Lefkowit z/OM B/ EOP, Helgard C. Walker/WHO/ EOP duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5087 duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5087 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2001 5:45 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Ce: Subject: Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov; Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov; Rebecca_A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_O._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steven_ O._Aitken@omb.eop.gov (b) (5) RE: OLC: Airline Board Attachments: pic27339.pcx (b) (5) . {Embedded image moved "Whelan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/ 04/2001 05:13:30 PM pic27339.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message Subject: RE: OLC: (b) (5) Airline Board (b) (5) (b) (5) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5117 (b) (5) ----Original Message----From : Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov [mailto:Helgard_C._ Wa lker@who.eop.gov) Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:39 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Cc: Jay_P._ Lefkowit z@omb.eop.gov; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Rebecca_A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_O._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steven_O._Aitken@omb.eop.gov (b) (5) Airline Board Subject: RE: OLC: (b) (5) Yes, I think that's good. Here's a somewhat tweaked version, : " (b) (5) ." (b) (5) On a housekeeping note, I would add this language . (b) (5) One last thing to keep in mind -- though I don't see how we can avoid it, given this pickle• that we're in (b) (5) - is that . But again, it's unavoidable, I think. HCW {Embedded image moved "Whelan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/ 04/2001 04:17:07 PM pic00788.pcx) Record Type : Record Document ID: 0.7.18648.5117 To: Jay P. EDP duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5117 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5117 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5117 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5117 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5117 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5117 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5117 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5117-000001 Whelan, M Edward Ill From: Whelan, M Edward Ill Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:03 PM To: 'Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov'; ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' (b) (5) Airline Board: Subject: FYI: Tim Flanigan spoke briefly with me about (b) (5) (b) (5) I'll have some more specific ideas on this in the morning. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5125 Helgard_C._ Walke·r@who.eop.gov Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:05 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Cc: Subject: Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Rebecca_A._Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_D._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steven_D._Aitken@omb.eop.gov (b) (5) RE: OLC: Airline Board Attachments: pic22174.pcx Another interesting tidbit is that (b) (5) This suggests to me that, (b) (5) (Embedded image moved "Wh e lan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/ 04/ 2001 05:55:56 PM pic22174.pcx) Record Type : Record To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/EOP@ EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message Subject: RE: OLC: (b) (5) Airl ine Board I'm fine on the draft language . In case it's useful to pass along, Document ID: 0.7.18648.5148 (b) (5) ----Original Message---From: Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov [mailto:Helgard_C._ Walker@who.eop.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:47 PM duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5148 duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5148-000001 Helgard_C._ Walke·r@who.eop.gov From: Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2001 6:21 PM To: Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Ce: Subject: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov (b) (5) Re : Airline Board : Attachments: pic09048.pcx (b) (5) I agree with Ed that . Brett M. Kavanaugh 10/ 04/2001 06:13:21 PM Record Type: Record To: "Whelan, M Edward Ill" cc: helgard c. walker/who/ eop@eop bee: (b) (5) Subject: Re : Airline Board : C. Walker) I think (b) (5) (Document link: Helgard . (Embedded image moved "Whelan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/04/2001 06:02:36 PM pic09048.pcx) Record Type : Record Document ID: 0.7.18648.5084 To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/ EO P@EOP, Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP@ EOP duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5084 Document ID: O.7.18648.5084-000001 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2001 6:26 PM To: Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov Ce: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov; Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Re becca_A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_D._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steve n_ D._Aitke n@omb.eop.gov Subject: RE: OLC: Attachments: pic30385.pcx Duly considered . (b) (5) (b) (5) Airline Board . Jay P. Lefkowitz 10/04/2001 06:23:40 PM Record Type: Record To: Brett M. Kavana ugh/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message bee: (b) (5) Airline Board {Document Subject: RE: OLC: link: Brett M. Kavanaugh) (b) (5) Brett M. Kavana ugh 10/04/2001 06:18:08 PM Record Type: Record Document ID: 0.7.18648.5145 To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message bee: (b) (5) Airline Board (Document Subject: RE: OLC: P link: Jay P. Lefkowitz) seems simple and right to me Helgard C. Walker 10/04/2001 06:14:24 PM Record Type: Record To: Jay P. Lefkowitz/OMB/EOP@EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message bee: (b) (5) Subject: RE: OLC: Airline Board (Document link: Brett M. Kavanaugh) Here's a version based on our prior language: (b) (5) " ." (b) (5) Jay P. Lefkowitz 10/04/2001 06:04:27 PM Record Type: Record To: "Whelan, M Edward Ill" cc: See the distribution list a t the bottom of this message bee: Subject: RE: OLC: P link: Helgard C. Walker) (b) (5) Airline Board (Document Ed: Just had a long ta lk with David Walker and Document ID: 0.7.18648.5145 (b) (5) (b) (5) Can you improve on this? {Embedded image moved "Whelan, M Edward Ill" to file: 10/ 04/2001 05:55:56 PM pic30385.pcx) Record Type: Record duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5145 duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5145 Document ID: O.7.18648.5145-000001 Jay_P._Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov Jay_ P. _ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov From: Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2001 6:30 PM To: Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov Ce: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov; Jay_P._ Lefkowit z@omb.eop.gov; Re becca_A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_D._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steve n_ D._Aitken@omb.eop.gov Subject: RE: OLC: Attachments: pic10945.pcx (b) (5) Airline Board Agree completely. I just sent it around to "consult" Helgard C. Walker 10/ 04/2001 06:28:50 PM Record Type : Record To: Jay P. Lefkowitz/ OM B/ EOP@ EOP cc: See the d istribution list at the bottom of this message bee: (b) (5) Subject : RE: OLC: Airline Board (Document link: Jay P. Lefko witz) My opinion is . Jay P. Lefkowit z 10/ 04/ 2001 06:23:40 PM Record Type: Record Document ID: 0.7.18648.5184 (b) (5) duplicate duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 'duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5184 Document ID: O.7.18648.5184-000001 Helgard_C._ Walke·r@who.eop.gov Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:35 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Cc: Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Re becca_A._Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joel_D._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steve n_D._Aitke n@omb.eop.gov Subject: RE: OLC: Attachments: pic31661.pcx (b) (5) Airline Board (b) (5) I think, . (Embedded image moved "Wh elan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/ 04/ 2001 06:28:27 PM pic31661.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Jay P. Lefkowitz/ OMB/ EOP, Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP cc: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/ EOP, Rebecca A, Beynon/OM B/ EOP, Joel D, Kaplan/WHO/ EOP, Steven D. Aitke n/OMB/ EOP Subject: RE: OLC: Airline Board (b) (5) ----Original Messa ge----From: Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov [mailto:Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov] Se nt: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:25 PM duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5199 (b) (5) duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate Document ID: O.7.18648.5199-000001 Helgard_C._ Walke·r@who.eop.gov He lga rd_ C._ Walker@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 200 1 6:42 PM To: Whe la n, M Edwa rd Ill Cc: Brett_ M._ Ka va naugh@who.eop.gov; Ja y_ P._ Le fkowitz@omb.eop.gov; Re be cca_ A._Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Joe l_ D._ Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Ste ve n_ D._ Aitke n@omb.eop.gov Subject: RE: OLC: Attachments: pic26691.pcx (b) (5) Airline Boa rd Gre at idea. So here 's the current version: (b) (5) " ." {Sente nce got unwi e ldy so I had to brea k it up.) {Embedded image moved "Wh e lan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/ 04/ 2001 06:27:01 PM pic26691.pcx) Re cord Type : Re cord To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP@ EOP, He lga rd C. Walker/ WHO/EOP@ EOP cc: Jay P. Lefkowitz/ OM B/ EOP@ EOP, Re be cca A. Be ynon/OMB/ EOP@ EOP, Joe l D. Kaplan/WHO/EOP@ EOP, Ste ve n D. Aitke n/OMB/ EOP@ EOP Subje ct: RE: OLC: (b) (5) Airline Boa rd I like He lgi's language, too. We might add " a t the e ndl. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5219 (b) (5) ----Original Message---From: Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov [mailto:Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:21 PM To: Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov Cc: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov; Helgard_C._Wa lker@who.eop.gov; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Rebecca_A._Beyno,n@omb.eop.gov; Joel_D._Kaplan@who.eop.gov; Steven_D._Aitken@omb.eop.gov (b) (5) Airline Board Subject: RE: OLC: seems simple and right to me Helgard C. Walker 10/ 04/2001 06:14:24 PM Record Type: Record To: Jay P. Lefkowitz/OMB/EOP@EOP duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5219 duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate duplicate Document ID: 01186485219 Document ID: O.7.18648.5219-000001 Whelan, M Edward Ill From: Whelan, M Edward Ill Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 8:27 PM To: 'Helgard_ C._ Walker@who.eop.gov'; 'Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop .gov' Ce: ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Subject: RE: Proposed l anguage (b) (5) ----Original Messa ge----From : Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov [mailto:Helgard_C._ Walker@who.eop.gov) Se nt: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:31 PM To: Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov Cc: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Subject: Re : Proposed language (b) (5) . What's your view, Ed? PS I think you had Brett's old email, so I've copied him. Jay P. Lefkowit z 10/ 04/ 2001 07:27:22 PM Record Type : Record To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: brett_kavanaug h@dc.kirkland.com bee: Subject: Re : Propos,ed language (Document link: Helgard C. Walker} It's a good question, but I don't th ink it's a problem. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5220 However, I'll look into it a little more. Helgard C. Walker 10/04/2001 07:22:41 PM Record Type: Record To: Jay P. Lefkowitr/ OMB/ EOP@EOP cc: brett_kavanaugh@dc.kirkland.com bee: Subject: Re: Propos.ed Language (Document link: Jay P. Lefkowitz) (b) (5) . Jay P. Lefkowitz 10/ 04/2001 07:16:35 PM Record Type : Record To: Brett_Kavanaugh@dc.kirkland.com, Helgard C. Walker/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: Subject: Proposed Language GAO' s negotiating with us now. Here•s their bid, followed by my counterproposal, which I haven't sent yet. - - - - - - Forwarded by Jay P. Lefkowitz/OMB/EO P on 10/04/2001 07:14 P M - - -- - - - (Embedded image moved Anthony H Gamboa to file: 10/04/2001 06:48:19 PM pic30604.pcx) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5220 Record Type: Record To: Jay P. Lefkowitz/OMB/ EOP@ EOP cc: Subject: Proposed Language (f) For purposes of any operational and decisionmaking functions, the "Board" means the voting members of the Air Transportation Stabilization Board established under Section 102 of the Act. The voting members of the Board are the Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System {who is the Chairman of the Board), the Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of Transportation, or their designees. The Comptroller General, who is a nonvoting member, will not participate in the review, operations, or deliberations of the Board but will provide such audit and evaluation support as the Board may request. (f) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5220 (b) (5) Helgard_C._ Walke·r@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Ce: Hart, Rosemary; Brett_ M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Re becca_ A._ Beynon@omb.eop.gov Subject: Attachments: RE: Airline Loan Guarantees Friday, October 05, 2001 6:18 PM pic32468.pcx I think it's too late, as the regs have already gone out the door, but I'll copy Re becca so that we can lay a marker on this po int as possible action in any supplemental regs issued by the Board. {Embedded image moved "Wh elan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/ 05/ 2001 05:10:11 PM pic32468.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: "Hart, Rosemary" {Receipt Notification Requested), Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP@ EOP Subject: RE: Airline Loan Guarantees Sorry -- one additional suggest ion: Changing " would be eve n better. (b) (5) -- --Original Messa ge--- From: Whelan, M E-d ward Ill Sent: Friday, October OS, 2001 5:06 PM To: 'Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov' Cc: Hart, Rosemary; ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' (b) (5) Subject: RE: I'm fine on Document ID: 0.7.18648.5326 (b) (5) . " in the last line to " (b) (5) " (b) (5) With respect to . ---Original Message--From : Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov [mailto:Helgard_C._ Walker@who.eop.gov) Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 4:25 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Cc: Hart, Rosemary; Brett_M._ Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Subject: RE: Airline l oan Guarantees (b) (5) Ed, here's the language we wound up with on : (b) (5) Since you were satisified with prior, similar versions of this, I take it you also think this language is (b) (5) . Is (b) (5) that correct? I just wanted t o nail this down, since you felt . (b) (5) Brett, I am copying you to see if you know anything about . HCW HCW Document ID: 0.7.18648.5326 (b) (5) \ 1...l t l V CUUCU image moved "Whelan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/05/2001 01:31:43 PM pic15212.pcx) Record Type : Record To: Helgard C. Walker/ WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: "Hart, Rosemary" (Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: RE: Airline loan Guarantees (b) (5) Helgi: Rosemary advises that . - Ed ----Original Message--- From: Whelan, M E-d ward Ill Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 5:20 PM To: 'Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov' Cc: Hart, Rosemary Subject: RE: Airline l oan Guarantees Helgi: I suspect that the issues are intertwined: (b) (5) . I think (b) (5) insights on this. Ed ---Original Message-From: Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov [mailto:Helgard_C._ Walker@who.eop.gov) Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:42 PM To: Yoo, John C Cc: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Hart, Rosemary Subject: RE: Airline l oan Guarantees Document ID: 0.7.18648.5326 , but I look forward to Rosemary's Thanks, John . Ed and I have been in heavy email t raffic on a related matter, . But I could s till use some quick and dirty advice on this separate question, . (b) (5) (b) (5) (Embedded image moved "Yoo, John C" to file: 10/04/2001 01:09:12 PM pic03958.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/ EOP cc: "Whelan, M Edward Ill" , "Hart, Rosemary" Subject: RE: Airline Loan Guarantees Helgi: I am going to refer this to Ed Whalen, who worked on the airline bailout, and Rosemary Hart, who does executive orders. They should be able to give you an answer pretty quick. John -----Original Message---From : Helgard_C._Walker@who.eop.gov [mailto:Helgard_ C._Walker@who.eop.gov] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 200112:50 PM To: Yoo, John C Subject: Re : Airline Loan Guarantees John - (b) (5) Any problems with this? What's the best vehicle? If you could give me a quick read on this, I would greatly appreciate it. Th,.nk<. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5326 ..... ... ._., Helgi - - - - - - Forwarded by Helgard C. Walker/WHO/EOP on 10/ 04/200112:46 PM - - - - - - Helgard C. Walker 10/04/200112:45:29 PM Record Type: Record To: Rebecca A. Beynon/OMB/EOP@EOP cc: Jay P. Lefkowitz/OMB/EOP@EOP, Joel D. Kaplan/WHO/EOP@ EOP bee: Records Management@ EO P Subject: Re : Airline Loan Guarantees (Document link: Helgard C. Walker) (b) (5) I have looked at thi s quickly, and my assessment is that . Does DOT have a proposal for us to look at? I also need to talk with my bosses t o see how we think (b) (5) , as well as get advice from OLC. I will try and get this done ASAP because I always like to have matters nailed down, although I don't think it's critical that (b) (5) None of (b) (5) occur by Friday. are going out the door anywhere for quite a while. HCW From: Rebecca A. Beynon on 10/ 04/2001 08:51:24 AM Record Type: Record To: Helgard C. Walker/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: Jay Lefkowitz Subject: Airline Loan Guarantees Helgi - As we discu·ssed yest erday, Document ID: 0.7.18648.5326 (b) (5) (b) (5) that Let me know what you think about this, and what st eps, if any, you think are needed to be sure (b) (5) . Document ID: 0.7.18648.5326 Document ID: O.7.18648.5326-000001 Whelan, M Edward Ill From: Sent: Whelan, M Edward Ill To: 'Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@omb.eop.gov'; ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Ce: ' Rebecca_A._Beynon@omb.eop.gov' Subject: RE : Victim's Compensation Fund Attachments: airline 101001.wpd Wednesday, October 10, 2001 10:25 AM I attach a draft opinion on this matter. My apologies if the haste shows . I expect to be unreachable (at the Supreme Court) from around 11:00 t o 12:45. -- --Original Message---From: Jay_P._Lefkowit z@omb.eop.gov [mailto:Jay_P._Lefkowit z@omb.eop.gov] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 8:57 PM To: Brett_ M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Cc: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Rebecca_A._Beynon@omb.eop.gov; Jay_P._ Lefkowitz@-o mb.eop.gov; michborek@aoI.com Subject: Re : Victim' s Compensation Fund (b) (5) . thanks Brett M. Kavanaugh 10/ 09/2001 06:47:42 PM Record Type : Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: See the distribut ion list at the bottom of this message bee: Subject: Re: Victim' s Compensation Fund (Document link: Jay P. Lefkowitz) Just to be clear, Document ID: 0.7.18648.5335 (b) (5) . Brett M. Kavanaugh 10/09/2001 06:44:06 PM Record Type : Record To: Rebecca A. Beynon/OMB/EOP@EOP cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message bee: Records Management@ EOP Subject: Re: Victim's Compensa tion Fund (Document link: Brett M. Kavanaugh} (b) (5) From : Rebecca A. Beynon on 10/ 09/2001 06:41:07 PM Record Type : Record To: M.Edward.Whelan@usdoj.gov@ inet, john.yoo@usdoj.gov@ inet, jonathan.cedarbaum@usdoj.gov@ inet cc: Jay Lefkowitz, Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP@ EOP, michborek@aol.com @ inet Subject: Victim's Compensation Fund Ed - I'm trying to track you down right now. I left a message with Jonathan, and he said you would call (b) (5) when you got my message. As the voice message I left you said, I'll talk t o you soon. Thanks very much. RB: 202-395-3193; (b) (6) (b) (5) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5335 (cell}; (b) (6) (home} (b) (5) Message Copied To:_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ m.edward.whelan@usdoj.gov@ inet john.yoo@usdoj.gov @ inet jonathan.ced arbaum@usdoj.gov@ inet Jay P. Lefkowit z/OM B/EOP@ EOP michborek@aol.com @ inet Message Copied To :_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ rebecca a. be ynon/omb/eop@eop m.edward.whelan@usdoj.gov@ inet john.yoo@usdoj.gov@ inet jonathan.ced arbaum@usdoj.gov@ inet jay p. lefkowitz/ omb/ eop@eop michborek@aol.com @ inet Document ID: 0.7.18648.5335 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 7:22 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: RE: Presidential Libraries Act Attachments: pic24954.pcx No. {Embedded image moved "Wh elan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/ 15/2001 05:35:40 PM pic24954.pcx) Record Type : Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: Subject: RE: Presidential Libraries Act May Paul consu lt with the Archivist's office on this? ----Original Message-From: Whelan, M E-d ward Ill Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 3:37 PM To: 'Kavanaugh, Brett' (b) (5) Subject: We don't have anything in the can on this . I've asked Paul Colborn to prepare . let me know your dead line. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5352 (b) (5) Document ID: O.7.18648.5352-000001 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 9:00 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: Re : Presidential Libraries Act Attachments: pic07731.pcx th is week, if possible, thanks (no on Archives consultation) {Embedded image moved "Wh elan, M Edward Ill" to file : 10/ 15/2001 03:36:40 PM pic07731.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: Subject: Presidentia l Libraries Act We don't have anything in the can on this. I've asked Paul Colborn to prepare . Let me know your deadline . Document ID: 0.7.18648.5358 (b) (5) Document ID: O.7.18648.5358-000001 Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: Colborn, Paul P To: ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Ce: Subject: Whelan, M Edward Ill (b) (5) FW: OA Attachments: (b) (5) .doc Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:05 AM (b) (5) (b) (5) Brett: Could you please fax me (at 305-8524) the and referred to in the attached email? I already have the materials sent t o Dawn Johns en in 1994. Thanks. -- Paul cc: Ed ----Original Message--- From: Whelan, M Edward Ill Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:14 PM To: Colborn, Paul P (b) (5) Subject: FW: OA ----Original Message---From: Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov {mailto:Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 5:11 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill (b) (5) Subject: OA - - - - - Forwarded by Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP on 10/16/2001 05:10 P M - - -- - Catherine S. Anderson 10/ 16/2001 05:09:11.5 PM Record Type : Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP@ EOP Document ID: 0.7.18648.5376 cc: Subject: (b) (5) OA Brett: I am sending you the following materials in response to OLC's request: {See attached file: (b) (5) .doc) (b) (5) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5376 (b) (5) e In any event, to the extent that OLC does not already have copies, the materials may be helpful. Let me know if you need any additional information. After OLC has an opportunity to revie w the materials, it may be helpful to meet wit h them t o discuss further. Kate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5376 Whelan, M Edward III Whelan, M Edward III Wednesday, October 17, 2001 3:00 PM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' FW: Hatch Act question From: Sent: To: Subject: Brett: Your question whethe C (b) (5) is proving more complicated than expected. Here's a brief overview of OLC's current thinking: 1. On the one hand: t (b) (5) . t . . 2. On the other hand: ic (b) (5) of g. to on i). . I'm not sure that this is readily amenable to oral resolution. Ed Document ID: 0.7.18648.5377 Let's discuss at your convenience. Dinh, Viet From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: No. Dinh, Viet Friday, October 19, 2001 5:42 PM Whelan, M Edward III; Newstead, Jennifer 'Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' RE: legislative tweak to 13 USC 9 But good idea. Should we conside (b) (5) ? -----Original Message----From: Whelan, M Edward III Friday, October 19, 2001 4:53 PM Sent: To: Dinh, Viet; Newstead, Jennifer RE: legislative tweak to 13 USC 9 Subject: Does the approved legislative package do anything on 13 USC 9? -----Original Message----Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:12 PM Dinh, Viet; Newstead, Jennifer To: Subject: legislative tweak to 13 USC 9 Importance: High Viet and Jennifer: Brett Kavanaugh has asked me to pass along the following: t (b) (5) . . t . Here's my first stab at a legislative fix: : (b) (5) " Ed Document ID: 0.7.18648.5399 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:48 AM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: Re: OPM reg question Attachments: pic26953.pcx no, (b) (5) and (b) (5) as applied to the people identified in (b) (5) {Embedded image moved "Wh elan, M Edward Ill" to file: 10/ 23/2001 09:32:26 AM pic26953.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP cc: Subject: OPM reg question Is the reg that you were asking about OPM reg that addresses the same matter? Document ID: 0.7.18648.5414 (b) (5) ? Or is there some separate Document ID: O.7.18648.5414-000001 Huntington, Clare From: Huntington, Clare Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 6:27 PM To: ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Ce: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Bradshaw, Sheldon (b) (5) Transportation Secretary (b) (5) Subject: Brett, As I mentioned on the phone this afternoon, Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Clare Huntington 514-4487 Document ID: 0.7.18648.5413 (b) (5) Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 9:02 AM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: aviation security Any thoughts? - - - - - - Forwarded by Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP on 10/ 31/2001 07:59 AM - - - - - Elizabeth S. Doughe rty 10/ 30/2001 09:29:49 PM Record Type: Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: Joel 0. Kaplan/WHO/ EOP@ EOP Subject: aviation security Hi Brett! I don't know if you have seen (b) (5) We are not sure what this means (and neither are the policy or leg folks at DOT). So we were hoping that you might look into it (with OLC and OOT's help, of course) to see just what it means to (b) (5) Would you mind looking into this? Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks very much! Document ID: 0.7.18648.5415 Huntington, Clare From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Attachments: Huntington, Clare Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:35 AM 'Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Whelan, M Edward III Aviation security proposed amendment Sky Marshalls memo.doc Brett-We have looked at the proposed amendment, "Deputization of airport screening personnel," and agree that on it's face it is unclear what the amendment would achieve. In the attached memorandum, you will see that OLC has advise (b) (5) . . t . . . . r , . For your convenience, I have set forth the relevant statutory provisions below and have attached the OLC memorandum mentioned above, which was not published or distributed publicly. If you have any questions, please feel free to call me a (b) (6) . Thanks -- Clare (b) (5) " : Document ID: 0.7.18648.5421 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:58 AM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: Addington Addington was should call him if you can to explain; thanks Document ID: 0.7.18648.5457 (b) (5) ; you Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Friday, November 02, 200112:58 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: Re: Tuesday committe hearing Attachments: pic23170.pcx John would be g-reat if you cannot do it. House Subcommittee on Government Efficiency. Horn is chair. (Embedded image moved "Whelan, M Edward Ill" to file: 11/02/200111:04:43 AM pic23170.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP cc: Subject: Tuesday committe hearing If you remain of the view that I might be asked to t estify on behalf of the Administration, please give me more info on this hearing (which committee, what time, precise topic, etc.) so that I can get ready. I'll also need to have a backup plan have anyone else in mind, let me know. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5463 (b) (6) . I'll check with John Yoo. If you Document ID: O.7.18648.5463-000001 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 4:25 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: PRA presidential records -- letter to Horn.doc; Presidential Records Act ta lking points November 1.doc Attachments: (See attached file : presidential records -- letter to Horn.doc)(See attached file : Presidentia l Records Act talking points Nove mber 1.doc) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5467 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Monday, November 5, 2001 9:10 AM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: Horn Testimony housepra.doc; pic03985.doc Attachments: FYI; (b) (5) - - - - -- Forwarded by Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP on 11/05/2001 09:09 AM - - - - - (Embedded image moved GaryM Stern to file : 11/02/2001 04:24:24 PM pic03985.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP cc: Subject: Horn Testimony As we discussed, here is the current, final version of the testimony, which includes all of the OLC (b) (5) changes, except that, as we discussed, . Please advise us asap if you want any additiona l changes in light of the OLC testimony. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5468 Document ID: O.7.18648.5468-000002 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Monday, November 05, 200110:10 AM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: Re: Judge's le tter to Congressman Horn Attachments: Nov 2 le tter to Rep Horn re Pres Records.doc - - - - - - Forwarded by Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP on 11/05/200110:09 AM - - - - - Elizabe th N. Camp 11/05/200110:06:49 AM Record Type : Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: bee: Subject: Re: Judge's le tter t o Congressman Horn {Document link: Brett M. Kavanaugh) {See attached file: Nov 2 le tter to Rep Horn re Pres Records.doc) Brett M. Kavanaugh ll/05/200110:02:20 AM Record Type : Record To: Elizabeth N. Camp/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: Subject: Judge's le tter to Congressman Horn {Document link: Elizabe th N. Camp) can you e-mail final version so that I have a computer-file copy; thanks Document ID: 0.7.18648.5470 Document ID: O.7.18648.547O November 2, 2001 Dear Chairman Horn: I have learned that on November 6 the House Subcommittee on Government Efficiency, Financial Management, and Intergovernmental Relations will hold its previously postponed hearing on the Presidential Records Act. In advance of that hearing, we wanted to inform you of a recent development. President Bush yesterday signed an executive order implementing section 2204(c) of the Presidential Records Act, the provision of the Act that states: “Nothing in this Act shall be construed to confirm, limit, or expand any constitutionally-based privilege which may be available to an incumbent or former President.” That statutory provision is necessary, of course, to the Act’s constitutionality, for the Supreme Court held in 1977 that both former and current Presidents retain the constitutional right to assert privileges over the records of a former President, including after expiration of a 12-year period of presumptive non-disclosure. See Nixon v. Administrator of General Services, 433 U.S. 425 (1977). Furthermore, Congress contemplated that such constitutional privileges would be available and could be asserted, even after expiration of the 12-year period: At the time the Act was enacted, Senator Percy stated that if a Pres ident “believe[d] that the 12-year closure period does not suffice, that President could object to the release of some document in the 13th or 15th or 20th year.” Cong. Record S36844 (Oct. 13, 1978). The Act and its legislative history, as well as the Supreme Court’s decision in Nixon v. Administrator of General Services, obviously necessitate procedures for former and current Presidents to review Presidential records of a former President and, if they choose, to assert constitutional privileges. President Bush’s order responds to that need by establishing clear and sensible procedures for former and current Presidents to exercise their rights and responsibilities in a timely manner. The order replaces an earlier executive order (Executive Order 12667 of January 18, 1989) that had established some skeletal procedures for assertion of privileges over Presidential records and had provided that the current President would have the primary responsibility for asserting privileges over the records of a former President. President Bush’s new order supercedes that prior order both to set forth clearer procedures and to establish, consistent with the Supreme Court’s decision in Nixon v. Administrator of General Services and with what the Administration believes to be sound policy and procedure, that former Presidents are to have the primary responsibility for asserting privileges over their records. Indeed, section 4 ofPresident Bush’s order, which is its most critical component, provides that the current President will defer, absent compelling circumstances, to the decisions of the former President regarding the former President’s records. In sum, therefore, the new executive order grants the current President less relative authority over the records of a former President than did the prior executive order. We believe this point is critical to a proper understanding of the executive order, and has been largely overlooked in public commentary thus far. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5470-000001 The Honorable Steve Horn November 2, 2001 Page Two In addition, President Bush’s order does not purport to guide former Presidents as to their privilege assertions. Section 9 of the order provides that the order does not purport to indicate “whether and under what circumstances a former President should assert or waive any privilege.” Indeed, it would have been improper, if not illegal, for President Bush to attempt to limit or override the constitutional rights and privileges of former Presidents -- rights that have been guaranteed by the Supreme Court. But it also bears mention that Section 2 of the order refers to the historical practice before enactment of the Presidential Records Act by which former Presidents, over time, have released a vast majority of their records even though under no legal obligation to do so. We anticipate that this historical practice will continue. At a minimum, contrary to the claims of some commentators, there is no logical basis for assuming that former Presidents will exercise their constitutional and statutory authority to seek withholding of privileged records more aggressively than earlier Presidents -- from President Washington to President Carter -- exercised their plenary and far broader authority to withhold all records. Finally, you should know that the Administration consulted extensively with the National Archives and Records Administration, the Department of Justice, and former Presidents’ representatives before President Bush issued this order. We benefited greatly from that consultation. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions about the order. Sincerely, Alberto R. Gonzales Counsel to the President The Honorable Steve Horn United States House of Representatives W ashington, DC 20515 cc: The Honorable Janice Schakowsky Document ID: 0.7.18648.5470-000001 Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: To: Subject: Attachments: Whelan, M Edward III Monday, November 05, 2001 10:24 AM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' PRA redraft pra testimony.doc Brett, attached is a slight redraft. A few comments: 1. . (b) (5) , . I have made revisions in several places t t. 2. On your comment on my phrasing. ": (b) (5) (b) (5) (b) (5) , I prefer (b) (5) r. 3. . (b) (5) . 4. I've added a sentence at the end of the next-to-last paragraph. 5. If you hav (b) (5) I've left a message with Maggs. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5469 handy, could you fax it to me? t. I want to kno (b) (5) Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: To: Subject: Whelan, M Edward III Monday, November 05, 2001 3:31 PM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' PRA question (b) (5) "? y. . Document ID: 0.7.18648.5473 Any other thoughts? nt he at er nt Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 3:42 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: Re : PRA quest ion Attachments: pic02683.pcx (b) (5) just met with Horn et al; (b) (5) (Embedded image moved "Whelan, M Edward Ill" to file : 11/05/ 2001 03:30:45 PM pic02683.pcx} Record Type : Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/ WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: Subject: PRA question duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5480 ID: O.7.18648.5480 Document ID: O.7.18648.5480-000001 Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: To: Subject: Whelan, M Edward III Monday, November 05, 2001 4:27 PM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' FW: Tomorrow's hearing on the Presidential Records Act, Executive Order FYI -----Original Message----From: Burton, Faith Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:26 PM To: Whelan, M Edward III; Colborn, Paul P; Thorsen, Carl Tomorrow's hearing on the Presidential Records Act, Executive Order Subject: Henry Ray of the Horn Subcommittee just got back to me about this hearing, which he expects will be especially well attended because of the "controversial" Executive Order. He expects that, in addition to Subcommittee Chairman Horn, RMM Schakowsky, Members Ose and Maloney will attend, as well as Chairman Burton and Full Committee RMM Waxman will attend, reportedly because they are concerned that the new EO is inconsistent with the PRA and possibly unconstitutional. The panels are planned as follows: I. Archivist Carlin and Anna Nelson, as historian, to explain the EO and provide a policy perspective, respectively; II. AU political science professor Mark Roselle; Ed; Peter Shane of Univ. of Pittsburgh law school and Carnegie Mellon, and possibly Scott Nelson, of the Public Citizen Litigation Group. This panel is expected to talk about the legal issues presented by the EO, although he mentioned that Roselle could be moved to the first panel. Henry expects that Ed will likely get lots of questions about whether the EO is constitutional and consistent with the PRA. Ed and Paul (b) (5) t? They would like to get the prepared statement as soon as it's available. I mentioned to Henry that this line-up is inconsistent with the usual protocol that all Administration witnesses appear on the first panel, but he thinks this makes more sense. (Actually, protocol is that Admin. witnesses appear on the first panel and only with other Admin. witnesses, although there have been exceptions in special situations). Please let me kno (b) (5) . Faith Document ID: 0.7.18648.5478 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 8:06 AM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: Re : PRA quest ion Attachments: pic28589.pcx (b) (5) (Embedded image moved "Wh e lan, M Edward Ill" to file : 11/06/ 2001 07:58:17 AM pic28589.pcx) Record Type : Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: Subject: PRA question I need to understarnd . Is it accurate to say Document ID: 0.7.18648.5486 (b) (5) (b) (5) Document ID: O.7.18648.5486-000001 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 8:07 AM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Attachments: l etter to Horn final.doc Oo you have Judge's letter t o Horn? That probab ly should be part of the package OOJ OLA sends up to Hill and publicly releases. We will FAX over a signed copy if you agree with that assessment {letter is attached below). Have your assistant call Elizabeth Camp at 456-2632 t o get the signed copy FAXed over. {See attached file: l etter to Horn final.doc) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5488 November 2, 2001 Dear Chairman Horn: I have learned that on November 6 the House Subcommittee on Government Efficiency, Financial Management, and Intergovernmental Relations will hold its previously postponed hearing on the Presidential Records Act. In advance of that hearing, we wanted to inform you of a recent development. President Bush yesterday signed an executive order implementing section 2204(c) of the Presidential Records Act, the provision of the Act that states: “Nothing in this Act shall be construed to confirm, limit, or expand any constitutionally-based privilege which may be available to an incumbent or former President.” That statutory provision is necessary, of course, to the Act’s constitutionality, for the Supreme Court held in 1977 that both former and current Presidents retain the constitutional right to assert privileges over the records of a former President, including after expiration of a 12-year period of presumptive non-disclosure. See Nixon v. Administrator of General Services, 433 U.S. 425 (1977). Furthermore, Congress contemplated that such constitutional privileges would be available and could be asserted, even after expiration of the 12-year period: At the time the Act was enacted, Senator Percy stated that if a Pres ident “believe[d] that the 12-year closure period does not suffice, that President could object to the release of some document in the 13th or 15th or 20th year.” Cong. Record S36844 (Oct. 13, 1978). The Act and its legislative history, as well as the Supreme Court’s decision in Nixon v. Administrator of General Services, obviously necessitate procedures for former and current Presidents to review Presidential records of a former President and, if they choose, to assert constitutional privileges. President Bush’s order responds to that need by establishing clear and sensible procedures for former and current Presidents to exercise their rights and responsibilities in a timely manner. The order replaces an earlier executive order (Executive Order 12667 of January 18, 1989) that had established some skeletal procedures for assertion of privileges over Presidential records and had provided that the current President would have the primary responsibility for asserting privileges over the records of a former President. President Bush’s new order supercedes that prior order both to set forth clearer procedures and to establish, consistent with the Supreme Court’s decision in Nixon v. Administrator of General Services and with what the Administration believes to be sound policy and procedure, that former Presidents are to have the primary responsibility for asserting privileges over their records. Indeed, section 4 ofPresident Bush’s order, which is its most critical component, provides that the current President will defer, absent compelling circumstances, to the decisions of the former President regarding the former President’s records. In sum, therefore, the new executive order grants the current President less relative authority over the records of a former President than did the prior executive order. We believe this point is critical to a proper understanding of the executive order, and has been largely overlooked in public commentary thus far. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5488-000001 The Honorable Steve Horn November 2, 2001 Page Two In addition, President Bush’s order does not purport to guide former Presidents as to their privilege assertions. Section 9 of the order provides that the order does not purport to indicate “whether and under what circumstances a former President should assert or waive any privilege.” Indeed, it would have been improper, if not illegal, for President Bush to attempt to limit or override the constitutional rights and privileges of former Presidents -- rights that have been guaranteed by the Supreme Court. But it also bears mention that Section 2 of the order refers to the historical practice before enactment of the Presidential Records Act by which former Presidents, over time, have released a vast majority of their records even though under no legal obligation to do so. We anticipate that this historical practice will continue. At a minimum, contrary to the claims of some commentators, there is no logical basis for assuming that former Presidents will exercise their constitutional and statutory authority to seek withholding of privileged records more aggressively than earlier Presidents -- from President Washington to President Carter -- exercised their plenary and far broader authority to withhold all records. Finally, you should know that the Administration consulted extensively with the National Archives and Records Administration, the Department of Justice, and former Presidents’ representatives before President Bush issued this order. We benefited greatly from that consultation. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions about the order. Sincerely, Alberto R. Gonzales Counsel to the President The Honorable Steve Horn United States House of Representatives W ashington, DC 20515 cc: The Honorable Janice Schakowsky Document ID: 0.7.18648.5488-000001 Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: To: Subject: Whelan, M Edward III Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:18 AM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' FW: protocol -----Original Message----From: Burton, Faith Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:16 AM To: Thorsen, Carl; Whelan, M Edward III RE: protocol Subject: Good. The current one panel plan will still leave Ed in the fray with non-governmental witnesses; Ray just reported that they think Brett is OK with the current plan. FB Henry -----Original Message----From: Thorsen, Carl Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:13 AM To: Burton, Faith; Whelan, M Edward III RE: protocol Subject: Brett is on the phone with Russell George right now. I'm going to call him directly. Will get back asap. -----Original Message----From: Burton, Faith Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 8:59 AM Whelan, M Edward III; Thorsen, Carl To: Subject: RE: protocol Ed, I agree with your sens (b) (5) but WH participation in this issue will be important. r; I'm happy to pursue this with the Committee I'll call Kirsten. FB -----Original Message----From: Whelan, M Edward III Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:27 AM To: Burton, Faith; Thorsen, Carl protocol Subject: Any further word on the panel structure? The White House (per Kavanaugh) as (b) (5) . The legislative contact at the White House is Kirsten Chadwick. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5487 Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: To: Subject: 1. Whelan, M Edward III Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:37 AM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' postscript Any reactions to the Post story? Would it be worthwhile for someone t (b) (5) ? 2. Gary Stern commented after the hearing that he think . Document ID: 0.7.18648.5492 (b) (5) Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Friday, November 09, 200110:15 AM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Ce: Colborn, Paul P Subject: Re: Ose questions Attachments: pic23275.pcx (b) (5) . for #2, make sure to cite (b) (5) . will you draft up . answers? let me know what you want me t o do and when. thanks again. (b) (5) {Embedded image moved "Wh elan, M Edward Ill" to file : 11/09/200110:08:30 AM pic23275.pcx) Record Type : Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP cc: "Colborn, Paul P" {Receipt Notification Requested) {1PM Return Requested) Subject: Ose questions I received follow-up questions from Ose and am sending them to you. Deadline for response is 11/ 30. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5497 Document ID: O.7.18648.5497-000001 Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: To: Subject: Whelan, M Edward III Friday, November 09, 2001 5:36 PM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' Clinton Just in case you haven't already seen it: Ex-President Clinton Resigns From Supreme Court Bar By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former President Bill Clinton, facing the possibility of being barred from practicing law before the U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) because of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, has resigned instead, his lawyer said on Friday. ``Former President Clinton (news - web sites) hereby respectfully requests to resign from the bar of this court,'' his lawyer, David Kendall, said in a two-page letter to the high court's clerk. Kendall did not elaborate on why Clinton decided to resign. Clinton's resignation from the Supreme Court bar will have little practical impact. Clinton has not practiced before the Supreme Court and was not expected to argue any cases in the future. On Oct. 1, the Supreme Court suspended Clinton from practicing before the court and gave him 40 days to show why he should not be disbarred. On Jan. 19, the day before leaving office, Clinton admitted giving false, evasive statements about his relationship with Lewinsky, the former White House intern. As part of a deal with the independent counsel, Clinton accepted a five-year suspension of his license to practice law in Arkansas and a $25,000 fine. The Arkansas suspension triggered the high court case entitled, ``In the matter of discipline of Bill Clinton.'' Kendall had said in October that Clinton would fight disbarment. In the letter filed on Friday, Kendall said Clinton had been a member in ``good standing'' of the Arkansas bar for more than 25 years and had never had public or private professional discipline imposed by any bar. He said Clinton cooperated fully with the Arkansas Supreme Court Committee on Professional Conduct, furnishing all requested information in a timely manner. Kendall said Clinton's conduct did not relate to a criminal conviction or to the practice of law. It occurred as a private party in a civil Document ID: 0.7.18648.5498 proceeding, he said. The suspension stemmed from Clinton's answers in response to questions about his relationship with Lewinsky during questioning by lawyers for Paula Jones, who had filed a sexual harassment suit against Clinton. Kendall said Clinton agreed to the suspension and fine ``to avoid the burden of litigation for all parties, to achieve an expeditious and definite resolution and in acknowledgment that his actions merited censure.'' Kendall cited statistics showing that only four of the 570 aution, but did not impose suspension or disbarment, Kendall said. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5498 Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Whelan, M Edward III Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:26 AM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' Colborn, Paul P PRA questions FYI: I received, and am sending you, two more sets of questions from Chairman Horn. The requested response date is Nov. 20. We'll try to have draft responses for your review by the end of the week. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5499 Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Whelan, M Edward III Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:56 PM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' Colborn, Paul P RE: Horn questions Please also take a good look at 63. -----Original Message----From: Whelan, M Edward III Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:55 PM Sent: 'Kavanaugh, Brett' To: Cc: Colborn, Paul P Horn questions Subject: The questions from Chairman Horn that I'd ask you to take a first cut at are 1-4, 14-15, 58-59, and 69. Thanks. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5502 Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Colborn, Paul P Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:31 AM 'Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Whelan, M Edward III Letter to Congress explaining why Gov. Ridge won't testify Brett: I'd be happy to draft the letter you requested. letter you prepared earlier this year? Thanks. -- Paul cc: Ed Document ID: 0.7.18648.5528 Could you email me the latest draft of the generic Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Attachments: Colborn, Paul P Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:48 PM 'Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Whelan, M Edward III; Bybee, Jay FW: Assertion of executive privilege on prosecutorial decisionmaking documents conrad.potus4.wpd It has come to my attention that I neglected to attach the attachment. Here it is. -----Original Message----From: Colborn, Paul P Tuesday, December 04, 2001 5:01 PM Sent: To: 'Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Whelan, M Edward III; Bybee, Jay Cc: Subject: Assertion of executive privilege on prosecutorial decisionmaking documents Brett: Attached is the current draft of the AG letter to the President. As we discussed, I'm running the traps here to make certain tha f (b) (5) . But all indications so far are tha (b) (5) l. As we also discussed, I'll prepare a log of the documents. I'll try to do that tomorrow. -- Paul cc: Jay, Ed Document ID: 0.7.18648.5542 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:53 AM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Ce: Colborn, Paul P Subject: Memo Can you all today prepare a draft memo addressed to Judge Gonzales making clear (b) (5) . Any such memo also should make clear, of course, that . Document ID: 0.7.18648.5546 (b) (5) Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Attachments: Colborn, Paul P Monday, December 10, 2001 1:51 PM 'Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Bybee, Jay; Whelan, M Edward III executive privilege claim conrad.potus4.wpd; conrad.documentlist.wpd Brett, fyi, we've submitted the letter to the AG's office for his signature and expect to get it back today some time. Attached are the latest versions of the letter and list of documents. -- Paul cc: Jay, Ed Document ID: 0.7.18648.5552 Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Colborn, Paul P Monday, December 10, 2001 5:09 PM 'Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Bybee, Jay; Whelan, M Edward III AG letter to President on executive privilege claim Brett: The AG has signed the letter and it is being faxed to you now. How would you like me to deliver The hearing is currently the original? And when can we expect to get a presidential decision? scheduled for Thursday morning. -- Paul cc: Jay, Ed Document ID: 0.7.18648.5550 Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: To: Subject: Whelan, M Edward III Monday, December 10, 2001 5:24 PM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' OLC applicant At your convenience, I would like to speak to you regardin Document ID: 0.7.18648.5551 (b) (6) f. Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Attachments: Brett: Colborn, Paul P Monday, December 10, 2001 5:35 PM 'Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Bybee, Jay; Whelan, M Edward III FW: Current draft of the prepared statement for Thursday. ep.statement.wpd Any comments on the attached? -- Paul -----Original Message----Burton, Faith From: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:28 PM Horowitz, Michael-CRM; Bunnell, Steve; Colborn, Paul P To: Cc: Rybicki, James E Current draft of the prepared statement for Thursday. Subject: Document ID: 0.7.18648.5554 Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Attachments: Colborn, Paul P Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:19 AM 'Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Bybee, Jay; Whelan, M Edward III executive privilege claim conrad.documentlist.wpd Brett, per your request I'm faxing you right now the final document list. you yesterday. It's also attached here. It's the same as the one I emailed You'll notice at the end of the draft testimony I forwarded you yesterday that there is a paragraph about the President's assertion of privilege. Legislative Affairs here has requested th f (b) (5) . Although an alternative o recommen know your thoughts about this. -- Paul cc: Jay, Ed Document ID: 0.7.18648.5557 (b) (5) (b) (5) is also a possibility, I t. Let me Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 200112:44 PM To: Colborn, Paul P Ce: Bybee, Jay; Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: RE: Executive privilege claim Attachments: burton memo from president.doc; burton subpoena ARG memo.doc; pic17911.doc (b) (5) ? (Embedded image moved "Colborn, Paul P" to file : 12/ 11/200112:36:36 PM pic17911.pcx) Record Type : Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: "Bybee, Jay" (Receipt Notification Requested), "Whelan, M Edward Ill" (Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: RE: Executive privilege claim Brett: I have revised your drafts to conform them to changes I made t o the AG letter from September. (b) (5) The changes reflect . Because the latter memos included (b) (5) . (b) (5) Also, I emailed you yesterday of Legislative Affairs' preference for (b) (5) . I've now learned that their preference has become Let's talk about this when you have a moment. You might want to discuss it directly (b) (5) with Dan Bryant or Carl Thorsen. This question may affect how you word . Document ID: 0.7.18648.5578 -- Paul cc: Jay, Ed ----Original Message---From: Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov (mailto:Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov) Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 200111:52 AM To: Colborn, Paul P Cc: Bybee, Jay; Whe lan, M Edward Ill Subject: Executive privilege claim Please review as soon as possible the following draft memos from Judge Gonzales to the President and from the President to the Attorney General. Thanks. {See attached file: burton memo from president.doc){See attached file : burton subpoena ARG memo.doc) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5578 Document ID: O.7.18648.5578-000003 Raehel_l._Brand@who.eop.gov Rachel_L._Brand @who.eop.gov From: Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:32 AM To: Whe lan, M Edward Ill; Jan_E ._ Williams@who.eop.gov Ce: / OOV=H._ Christopher_ Bartolomucci@who.eop.gov/OOT=RFC822/0=INETGW/ P=GOV+OOJ/ A=TELEMAl l/C=US/; Bradford_A._ Berenson@who.eop.gov; Robe rt_ W._ Cobb@who.eop.gov; Courtne y_S._ Elwood @who.eop.gov; Noe l_J._ Francisco @who.eop .gov; Brett_ M._ Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; He lgard_ C._ Walker@who.eop.gov; Rachel_L._ Brand @who.eop.gov; Kyle_Sampson@who.eop.gov; Timothy_ E._Flanigan@who.eop.gov; Alberto_ R._Gonzales@who.eop.gov Subject: Attachments: Chicago Tribune asks for Wilson to step down/LA Times profiles Berry attl.htm; ATTACHMENT.TXT; pic16199.htm - - - - - - Forwarded by Rache l L. Brand/WHO/ EOP on 12/ 12/200110:31 AM - - - - - - Anne Womack 12/ 12/200110:12:SO AM Record Type: Record To: Rachel L. Brand/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: Subje ct: Chicago Tribune asks for Wilson to st e p down/ LA Times profiles Berry Chi Trib is good, LAT is total in the bag for Berry... - - - - - - Forwarded by Anne Womack/WHO/EOP on 12/ 12/200110:12 AM - - - - - - - {Embedded image moved KArriaga@aol.com to file : 12/ 12/2001 09:37:23 AM pic16199.pcx) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5597 Record Type: Record To: See the distribution list a t the bottom of this message cc: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message Subject: Chicago Tribune asks for Wilson to step down/LA Times profiles Berry Copyright 2001 Chicago Tribune Company Chicago Tribune December 12, 2001 Wednesday, NORTH SPORTS FINAL EDITION SECTIO N: Editorial; Pg. 30; ZONE: N LENGTH: 353 words HEADLIN E: Berry versus Bush BODY: Things haven' t been very civil of la te at the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights . The Bush a dminist ration wants t o replace Commissioner Victoria Wilson with Pe ter Kirsanow, a Cle ve land labor lawyer. The administration says Wilson's term is up. Commission Chairman Mary Frances Berry says it is not. Think this is a genteel dispute? Think again. Last Friday, Berry dared the Bush team to send in federal marshals to seat Kirsanow. Instead of sending in the marshals, the administration sent Justice Department lawyers t o file suit. The administration is asking the federal court to remove Wilson so that Kirsanow can repla ce her. Wilson was appointed by President Bill Clinton to fill in for Judge A. Leon Higginbotham, who died in December 1998. The administ ration quite reasonably figured that Wilson would leave when Higginbothan-n's term ended on Nov. 29. Board members a lways have had uniform staggered terms. Four are appointe-d by the president and four by Congress. Wrong, says Berry. In a little-publicized move, Congress in October 1994 changed the term of office of each commission member to six years, e liminating provisions that a llowed for interim or .acting terms. In a le tter, Reps. John Conyers, Jr., (D .-Mich.) and Jerrold Nadler (D.-N.Y.), who he lped draft the change, say the y wanted to uphold the independence of the body from the whims of any particular president or party. Berry says tha t's her concern, too. But her resoluteness happens t o be blocking a Republican vote that would e ve nly split the panel. With the panel in a continuing dis pute with Florida Gov. Je b Bush over undercounts of the sta te's black voters in the 2000 p residential e le ction, it is hard to belie ve this feud is free of partisanship. Nor is this an "independent" body. It is a body appointed by the president and Congress. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5597 The law may now be silent on succession, but the spirit of the law suggests its time for Wilson to ste p aside. Chairman Berry's credibility is at stake. The commission can be a valuable watchdog in helping Americans t o get along, but it should learn t o get along with the White House. Copyright 2001 / Los Angeles Times Los Angeles Times December 12, 2001 Wednesday Home Edition SECTION: Part A; Part 1; Page 26; National Desk LENGTH: 953 words HEADLINE: The Wo rld & Nation; Civil Rights Chief Shows Equality in Bedeviling Critics BYLIN E: JOHANNA NEUMAN, TIM ES STAFF WRITER DATELIN E: WASHINGTON BODY: Most politicians sit up st raighter when the White House calls-an unseen but perceptible salute to power. Mary Frances Berry is not most politicians. Outspoken, passionate, tenacious, she is at the moment fighting President Bush's decision to select a new member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, which she chairs. In fact, she told White House Counsel Alberto R. Gonzales that if he wanted t o seat a ne w commissioner, he had better send the U.S. marshals. The case is now in court, but the controversy has revived interest in the 63-year-old Berry, who has served on the commission for nearly half its 44-year history and has angered e ve ry administration, Republican and Democrat, since she came on board . President Carter appointed her in 1980, and she promptly criticized him for repatriating Haitian refugees. President Reagan t ried to fire her, but she took the dismissal to court--and won. President Clinton took a lashing from her when he withdrew his nomination of Lani Guinier to be assistant attorney general for civil rights. And Bush saw her accuse his brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, of a pattern of "injustice, ineptitude and inefficiency" that d isenfranchised minority voters in the 2000 election. Critics say her take•-no-prisoners style {the online publication Salon.com has called her "a vitriolic brawler") d ilutes her effective ness and that of the commission, which has a $9-million a rnnual budget and 80 employees but no enforcement powers. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5597 The Nationa l Journal's Stuart Taylor says she runs the commission "as a propaganda mill for the victimology wing of the Democratic Party." Berry's fellow commissioner Abigail Thernstrom thinks that the commission's reputation is "in the basement." But Berry, a historian and writer who was born in segregationist Nashville and survived an early childhood that she says was worthy of Charles Dickens, delights in the specter of being a proud black woman talking truth to power. "It never occurs to me to worry about whether a president disagrees," she said in an inte.-view. "I wish I could be more diplomatic, more measured. I'm not trying to figure out every day how to be a lightning rod . It's just that I have the courage of my convictions." If she is rough on opponents, some might argue she has earned the privilege. Placed in an orphanage by her mother after her father deserted the family, she says her earliest memory is hearing her brother wail for more food. She was 4 years old when her mother reclaimed the children, raising them alone while working as a beautician. Berry deduced that to get what you wanted in life, you had to fight. She credits teachers at every level for encouraging her to achieve, especially one high school history teacher, Minerva Hawkins, who was a mother figure and friend until she died last year. "She used to say that I was a diamond in the rough, and she was still trying to rub off my rough edges," Berry said. Perhaps as a result, there are bachelor's and mast er's degrees from Howard University and a doctorate in history and a law degree from the University of Michigan. Currently the Geraldine R. Segal Professor of American Social Thought at the University of Pennsylvania, Berry is a former chancellor at the University of Colorado at Boulder, where she was also a professor of history and law. In her academic writings, as in her political appointments (she worked as an education officia l before being named t o the commission), Berry is above all a contrarian. It seems it's not just presidents she enjoys skewering. She was the lead author in a 1992 book, "Long Memory: The Black Experience in America," which argued that for blacks in the 1960s, "the threat of genocide was real. It was roughly comparable to the threat faced by the Jews in the 1930s." She is proudest of a book called "Why the ERA Failed," which criticized the feminist movement for a flawed political strategy. "It's all about how the women's movement was outfoxed by {conservative) Phyllis Schlafly," she said. She wriggles out of labels, saying she is no Democrat, not necessarily a liberal-a thorn b,y any other name. And she enraged many listeners of Berkeley's KPFA-FM when, as Pacifica Foundation chairwoman, she initiated management changes that she said were aimed at wresting control of the station from "white male hippies over 50." One broadcaster was arrested on the air, accused of violating her ban on discussing the cont roversy on the air. The General Accounting Office, in a 1997 audit, criticized the commission as "an agency in disarray, with limited awareness how its resources are used." Berry's defenders said the GAO was. doing the hirlrlinu nf RPnuhlir..~n nnnnnPntc:. of ~ffirm;::1tivP ~r:tinn. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5597 ... ....... .. ,6 .... , ,,._,., ...... .......... ..... ,.,,., ..... . ._, , .._. .... , ........ . , ........ ._ ......... ...... . Her defense is Arthur S. Flemming. One of the grand old men of Republican politics, who served presidents from He,rbert Hoover t o Richard Nixon, Flemming was there at the creation, when President Eisenhower decided to create the commission as a means of defusing the civil rights movement that was simmering across the South. When Carter named Berry to the commission in 1980, Flemming took her under his wing. He would take her to breakfast at the hushed Hay-Adams Hot el and school her on the ways, big and small, of Washington power_ Mostly, he told her about the commission's history, about Eisenhower's tablepounding insistence that it get the facts (which is why the panel has subpoena power} arnd that it maintain its independence. "No White House, no Justice Department, te lls us what to do," Berry said. "When the day comes and I'm no longer on the commission, I'll know I did what Arthur Fle mming taught me: to protect the integrity of the commission." GRAPHIC: PHOTO: "I wish I could be more diplomatic.... It's just that I have the courage of my convictions," says Mary Frances Berry. PHOTOGRAPHER: Associated Press Document ID: 0.7.18648.5597 Copyright 2001 Chicago T'ribune Company Chicago Tribune December 12, 2001 Wednadsy, NORTH SPORTS FINAL EDITION SECTIOH: Ed i torial; Pg . 30; ZONE: N LEHGTH: 353 w«ds HEADLIHE: Berry v:rsus Bush BODY: Things haven't been very civil o f late et the U. S. Commission on Ci v il Rights. The Bush administration wants to replace Commissione:r V idOJia Wilson wi th Peter Kirsenow. e Clev eland lebOf lawyer. Th,e administration says Wilson•s term is up. Commission Chairmen Maty Frances Berry says i t is not. Think this is a g enteel d ispute? Think eg ein. La.>t Friday, Be:rry dared the Bush team to se:nd in federal marshals to se.s t Ki1>Snow. lnsi ead o f sending in ihe marshals, the administration sent Justice Oeparlmeni lawyl:i'S to file sui t. The administration is es&i ng the federal court to remove Wilson so that K irsenow can replace her. Wilson w es appointed by President Bill Clinton to fill in for Judge A Leon Higginbotham, who d ied in Qe.cembef 1998. The administration qui te reasonabl y fi gured th.at Wilson would leave when Higginbotham·; term ended on Nov. 29. Board members always hav e had uniform staggered terms. Four are appointed by the pcesident end four by Congress. Wrong, says Berry. In a little-publicized move, Congress in Odoba 1994 dtanged the tam o f office of each commission m e mbe, to six y ears, eliminating pco v isions the tallowed for intaim or acting tams. In e lettet, Reps. John Conyers, Jr.. {D.-Mich.) end Jerrold Ne di et {D.-N.Y.), who helped d raft the change, say they wanted to uphold the independence o f the body from the whims o f any particular pt"eside:nt or party. Betry says th.et"s her con can, too. But her ra-...oh.rleness happens to be blocking e Republican vote th.al would ev enl y split the panel. Wi th the panel in a continuing dispute wi th Florida Gov. J eb Bush over und!:1'counts of the state's blacl: vot:rs in the 2000 pc-eside.ntiel election, i t is hard to believe this feud is free. o f partisanship. Noc is this an "'independent"' body. It is a body appointe-d by the president and Congress. The law may now be silent on SuCOl:$$iOn, but the spiri t o f the law suggests i ts tim e for Wilson to step esidi:. Chairman Beny"s aedibility is at stake. Th-e commission can be a v aluable watchdog in helping Americans to g et along, but i t should learn to g et along wit!, the White, House. Copyright 2001 / Los Angeles Tim es Los Angeles Tim es Decemba 12, 2001 Wedn esday Home Edi tion SECTIOt,J: Pert A; Part 1; Page 26; National Dest LENGTH: 953 words HEADLINE: The WOJld & N ation; Ci vil Rights Chief Shows E,quality in. Bedeviling Cti tie& BYLINE: JOHANNA NEUMAN, TIMES STA FF WRITER DATELINE: WASHINGTOl'I BODY: Most politicians sit up stra ightei when the Whi te Hou.>e calls-an unseen but perceptible salute to power. Mary Frances Beny is not most politicians. Outspoken, passion.ate, tenacious, she is at the moment fi ghting President Bush•s d ecision to seled a new m ember o f the U.S. Commission on Civ il Rights, which she ch.airs. In fact, she told Whi te House Counsel A lberto R. Gonz ales that if he wanted to seat a new commissione,, he h.ed bette, send the U.S. mersh-.als. The case. is n°"'' in court, but the controversy hes revi ved interest in the 63-year-old Berry, who has served on the commission for nearl y half i ts 44-yee.r history and has angered evecy administration, Republican end De.moaat. since she came on board. President Cane, appointed het in 1980, end she pcomptl y a i ticized him few repatriating Hai tian refuge,es. President Reaga n tried to f ire her, but she tool: the d ismissal to court-and won. President Clinton tool: a le,shing from hei when he wi thdrew his nomination of Lani G uinie, to be assistant attorney g ene,al few civil rights. And Bush saw her ao::use h is brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, o f e pattern o f "'injust ice, inepti tude end inefficiency"' thet dise:nfranchised minori ty voters in the 2000 election. Document ID: 0.7.18648.5597-000001 Critics say hei take-no-prisoners style. {the online publication Salon.com hss called ha .,a vitriolic bcawler") d ilutes her effectiv eness end that o f the commission, which has a S9-million annual budget and 80 employees but no enfoccement powas. The National J.oumel's Stu art TaylOJ says she runs the commission • as a propag.e.nda mill foc the vidimology wing o f the De:mocratic Party.• 6etrys fellow commissioner A bigail Thernstcom thinks that the commission's reputation is "'in the bas.ement.• But Berry, a histOJian and write, who was bo.-n in segregationist Ncashville and survived an e.arly childhood that she says was worthy of Charles Didi:ens, d elights in the specter o f being a ptoud blad: woman tail ing truth to power. " It ne Va' occors to me to worry about whethei a pcesid'ent d isagrees,• she said in en intervie-w. "'I wish I could be more d iplomatic, more measured. I'm not trying to fi gure out every da y how to be a lightning tod. It's j ust tha t I have the courag e of my convictions.• If she is rough on opponen.ts. some might argue sh-e. has earned the p(ivile,ge. Pieced in an Ofphanage by he:r mother after ha father deserted the family, she says her earliest memory is hearing het brother wail foe moce food. She was 4 y ears old when her mothe:r reclaimed the childte.n, raising them alone while 'NOR'.ing as a beautician. Berry d educed that to g et wha t you wa.nte-d in life, you ha d to fi ght. She aedits teachers at every lev el fOi encourag ing her to achiev e., especially one high school his1()(f teach et, Minerva Hs~ ins, who was a mother figure and friend until she d ied lest y ear. "'She used to say tha t I was a diamond in the. rough, end she was still trying to tub off my rough edges,• Berry said. Petheps as a resu It, there aJe bachelor's and mestet"s <:l.egre,es from Howard University and a doctOfate in history and a law degree from the University o f Michigan. Cunently the, Geraldine R. Segel Professor o f American Social Thought at the University of Pennsylv ania, Berry is a focmei chancellor at the Univasity of Colcxado at Bouldei, where she was also a professOJ -o f his1()(f and law. In her academic writings, es in hei politics.I appointments {she wod:ed as an education o fficial befoce, be,in.g named to the commi »ion), Berry is above all a contrarien. It seems i f s not j ust p,esid~ nts she enj oys s):ewe,ing. She was the lead authOf in a 19'92 bod, "'Long Memory: The Blade Expaie.nce in America," which argued tha t foc blad:s ini the 1960s, "'th: threat o f ge nocide was ree:L It was coughly oompaJable. to the threat faced by the J ews in the 1930s."' She is pcoudest o f a book called -Why the ERA Failed," which criticized the feminist movement foc a flawed political strategy. "'If s all about how the women's movement w as outfoxed by {conservativ e) Phyllis Schlafly,• she said. She wriggles out o f labels, saying sh.e is no Democrat, not neCE:$$8t ily a libecel-e thocn by any o ther na me. And sh.e. enraged many list eners of Beri:eley's KPFA -FM when, es Pacifica Foundation ch.eirNoman. sh: initiated ma.nag errte,nt cha nges tha t she said were aimed et wrestin_g control of the st ation from "'w hite male hippies ova 50." One broad caste, was arrest ed on the ai,, accosed o f violating her ban on d iscussing the controversy on the air. The Genecal Accounting Office-, in a 1997 audit. criticized the commission as "'an agenOf in d iSSffay, with limited awsrenes.s how its ,esources aJe used.• Barfs d efenden said the GAO was doing the bidding o f Republican opponents of affirmativ e action. Ha d efense is Arthu, S. Flemming. One of the gtand o ld men of Republican politics, who served ptesidents from Habert Hoovec to Richard Nixon, Flemming was there at the. creation, when President Eise.nhowet d e,cide.d to a este the commi$:$ion es. a means of d efusing the civil t ights movement that was simmering acr0$.$ the South. When Carta named Berry to the commission in 1980, Flemming toot hec undec his wing. He would tille hec to bceakfest at the hushed liayAdams Hotel and school her on the ways, big a nd small. o f Washington po\Vet. Mostly, he told ha about the commission's h isto,y, about Eise.nhowa's table-poundi ng insist ence that it g et the facts {which is why the panel has subpoen.a powet) end tha t it maintain its independence. "'No White House, no Just ice Department, tells us wh.at to do,• Berry said. ' 'When the day comes and I'm no longer on th: oommission, I'll know I d id wha t Arthur Flemming taught me: to pcotect the integrity o f the commission." GRAPHIC: PHOTO: "'I wish I could be moJe d iplomatic. ... It's j ust tha t I ha ve. the courag e of my convictions,• sa)'"S Mary Fra nces Berry. PHOTOGRAPHER: Associated Press Document ID: 0.7.18648.5597-000001 Message Sent To:_____________________________________________________________ Anne Womack/WHO/EOP@EOP hfbelmar@yahoo.com bblomquist@nationalpress.com CKMarshall@sidley.com Dorothy.Taft@mail.house.gov gfeld@nrsc.org kgambrell@upi.com mhosen@newsweek.com Message Copied To:_____________________________________________________________ Barbara_Ledeen@src.senate.gov (Barbara Ledeen) cloparo@sos.state.oh.us crochester@kairos-inc.com dkong@ap.org thomas.ferraro@reuters.com Document ID: 0.7.18648.5597-000002 Colborn, Paul P Colborn, Paul P Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:40 AM Thorsen, Carl; Whelan, M Edward III Bryant, Dan; Burton, Faith; Horowitz, Michael-CRM; Bunnell, Steve; 'brett_m._kavanaugh@who.eop.gov'; Dryden, Susan Subject: RE: Thursday's Hearing Attachments: burton.issue3.wpd From: Sent: To: Cc: Issue paper 3 (attached), which we prepared for the AG in early September, presents the approach I favor regardin . Slight revisions would be necessary for (b) (5) . (b) (5) -----Original Message----Thorsen, Carl From: Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:22 AM Thorsen, Carl; Colborn, Paul P; Whelan, M Edward III To: Cc: Bryant, Dan; Burton, Faith; Horowitz, Michael-CRM; Bunnell, Steve; 'brett_m._kavanaugh@who.eop.gov'; Dryden, Susan Subject: RE: Thursday's Hearing I just spoke with Wilson. We're on for tomorrow morning @ 10 am. He says the Chairman's focus for this hearing will remain on the Boston docs subpoenaed, our apparent refusal to turn them over, and how to reconcile our position with the Department's history of providing "review" accommodations. (b) (5) . ) One panel, Horowitz is the only witness. Also, just fyi, Jim implied that he will not be surprised if exec privilege has been asserted by tomorrow. It would be great if by today @ 3 pm we have already nailed dow (b) (5) . We may wan (b) (5) , but I leave that to comm. experts. -----Original Message----From: Thorsen, Carl Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:16 PM To: Colborn, Paul P; Whelan, M Edward III Cc: Bryant, Dan; Burton, Faith; Horowitz, Michael-CRM; Bunnell, Steve; 'brett_m._kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Thursday's Hearing Subject: Ed, Paul Brett and I just discussed the logistics o (b) (5) . I suggested that it might be beneficial t (b) (5) , if its appropriate to do so. (Paul, I understood from our conversation that this has been done in the past?) Brett wanted to discuss this Document ID: 0.7.18648.5596 with you and Ed. Could you please get in touch with him to discuss tactical options? Also, Brett will be there from 3-4 tomorrow for the moot, so let's plan to cover this topic through discussion and q&a during that first hour. Thanks. Carl Thorsen Deputy Assistant Attorney General Office of Legislative Affairs U.S. Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, D.C. 20530 Document ID: 0.7.18648.5596 Steve Bunnell Sent: Steve Bunnell Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:50 AM To: Colborn, Paul P; Thorsen, Carl; Whelan, M Edward Ill; Martens, Matthew Ce: brett_m._kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Burton, Faith; Bryant, Dan; Dryden, Susan; Horowitz, Michael-CRM Subject: Attachments: RE: Thursday's Hearing From: MEH2.test.wpd Date: 12/ 12/200110:52 am -0500 (Wednesday) From: Steve Bunnell To: "PColborn".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "wCThorsen".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "wMWhelan".WTGATE2.CRMGW; Martens, Matthew CC: "brett_m._kavanaugh@who.eop.gov@inetgw".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "FBurton".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "wDBryant".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "wSDryden".WTGATE2.CRMGW; Horowitz, Michael-CRM Subject: RE: Thursday's Hearing Per the discussion yesterday, attached for your review and comments is my attempt at a version of Michael' s prepared stateme nt. For discussion at today's 3 pm meeting. (b) (5) »> Thorsen, Carl 12/ 12/0110:21AM »> duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5598 Thorsen, Carl From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Ok. Thorsen, Carl Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:41 PM Whelan, M Edward III Bryant, Dan; 'brett_m._kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' RE: Hearing However, in our vie . . . . Thanks for considering this. ) (b) (5) l -----Original Message----Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:30 PM Thorsen, Carl To: Subject: RE: Hearing Thanks. We're discussing this now. . (b) (5) -----Original Message----From: Thorsen, Carl Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:21 PM Sent: To: Whelan, M Edward III Subject: Hearing Ed, a heads-up, Dan just spoke with Jay. . Carl Thorsen Deputy Assistant Attorney General Office of Legislative Affairs U.S. Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, D.C. 20530 Document ID: 0.7.18648.5602 He feels very strongly tha , (b) (5) . Steve Bunnell Sent: Steve Bunnell Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:33 PM To: Colborn, Paul P; Thorsen, Carl; Whelan, M Edward Ill; Martens, Matthew Ce: brett_m._kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Burton, Faith; Bryant, Dan; Dryden, Susan; Horowitz, Michael-CRM Subject: Attachments: RE: Thursday's Hearing From: MEH3.wpd Date: 12/ 12/2001 06:35 pm -0500 (Wednesday) From: Steve Bunnell To: "PColborn".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "wCThorsen".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "wMWhelan".WTGATE2.CRMGW; Martens, Matthew CC: "brett_m._kavanaugh@who.eop.gov@inetgw".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "FBurton".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "wDBryant".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "wSDryden".WTGATE2.CRMGW; Horowitz, Michael-CRM Subject: RE: Thursday's Hearing Attached is what should be essentially the final draft of Michael's testimony. Please note I have added (b) (5) ... »> Thorsen, Carl 12/ 12/01 01:15PM »> My comments: (b) (5) . (b) (5) - suggest this sentence: " " (b) (5) -- add (b) (5) (b) (5) " (b) (5) ---Original Message-From: Steve Bunnell Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 200110:50 AM To: Colborn, Paul P; Thorsen, Carl; Whelan, M Edward Ill; Martens, Document ID: 0.7.18648.5607 (b) (5) Matthew Cc: brett_m._kavanaugh@who.eop.gov; Burton, Faith; Bryant, Dan; Dryden, Susan; Horowitz, M ichael-CRM Subject: RE: Thursday's Hearing Date : 12/ 12/200110:52 am -0500 (Wednesday) From : Steve Bunnell duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5607 Thorsen, Carl From: Thorsen, Carl Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:19 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill; Horowitz, Michael-CRM; Long, Linda E Ce: Bryant, Dan; Burton, Faith; 'brett_m._kavanaugh@who.eop.gov'; Wray, Chris; Herbert, James; Durham, John Subject: Monday and Tuesday Meetings on Boston/Burton/Exec Priv Issues Yes. Linda, pis. schedule in OLA conf room: Monday@ 10 am - AAG's Bryant, Chertoff, and Bybee (w/staff) and POAG Chris Wray or his designee (we'll probably patch in Herbert and possibly Durham by conf. call for that meeting). Same group for Tuesday@ 8 am but include Tim Flannigan and Brett Kavanaugh from WH Counsel ( contact Alison @ 456-2632). Thanks. ----Original Message---From: Whelan, M E,d ward Ill Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:03 PM To: Thorsen, Carl; Horowitz, Michae l-CRM Subject: RE: Pre-meeting on Boston issue Just to confirm my understanding: The OOJ-only pre-meeting will occur Monday at 10:00. The meeting with the White House folks will occur Tuesday at 8:00. Both meetings will occur in the OLA conference room. ----Original Message----From: Thorsen, Carl Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:01 PM To: Horowitz, Michael-CRM; Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: RE: Pre-meeting on Boston issue sorry to create confusion. i'm trying to speed skate through my 465 unopened emails. ---Original Message-From: Michael-CRM Horowitz Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:51 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Cc: Thorsen, Carl; Bybee, Jay Subject: Re: Pre-meeting on Boston issue Date: 12/ 14/2001 02:53 pm -0500 (Friday) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5604 From: Michae l-CRM Horowitz To: "wMWhe lan".WTGATE2.CRMGW CC: "wCThorsen".WTGATE2.CRMGW; "wJ Bybee".WTGATE2.CRMGW Subje ct: Re : Pre-meeting on Boston issue I am available and will have Val put it on my s chedule and Mike 's . Document ID: 0.7.18648.5604 Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: Colborn, Paul P To: ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Ce: Subject: Whelan, M Edward Ill Attachments: Bostondocs .tp3.wpd Friday, December 14, 2001 4:43 PM RE: Committee interest in Boston documents Brett, here's the ex:panded version. ----Original Message---From : Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov [mailto:Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:55 PM To: Colborn, Paul P Subject: RE: Committee interest in Boston documents yes, that too, thanks; left you a voice mail {Embedded image moved "Colborn, Paul P" to file: 12/ 14/2001 02:50:01 PM pic18247.pcx) Record Type : Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP@ EOP cc: Subject: RE: Committee interest in Boston documents But my draft does not contain discussion of DOJ' s Boston investigation and how the documents relate to that. Carl says you want that addressed too. Do you or don't you? Document ID: 0.7.18648.5610 ----Original Message---From: Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov [mailto:Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:46 PM To: Colborn, Paul P Subject: Re: Committee interest in Boston documents bingo; let me know when final; thanks ! {Embedded image moved "Colborn, Paul P" to file: 12/ 14/2001 01:49:40 PM pic23717.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP@EOP cc: Subject: Committee interest in Boston documents Brett: Here's my fir:st draft of the talking points you asked for. I'm having it reviewed now for accuracy. Is this what you had in mind? -- Paul Document ID: 0.7.18648.5610 Colborn, Paul P Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 200111:17 AM To: ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Ce: Subject: Whelan, M Edward Ill RE: important: need review of draft PRA letter Attachments: (b) (5) . wpd Brett, per our conversation, here are the paragraphs I wrote awhile ago on . -- Paul cc: Ed (b) (5) ----Original Message---- (b) (5) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5623 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 200111:29 AM To: Colborn, Paul P Ce: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: RE: important: need review of draft PRA letter Attachments: (b) (5) .wpd; pic25277.pcx thanks; I changed that and incorporated your material {Embedded image moved "Colborn, Pau l P" to file : 12/18/200111:17:07 AM pic25277.pcx) Record Type: Record To: Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP@EOP duplicate Document ID: 0.7.18648.5633 duplicate Document ID: 01186485633 Document ID: O.7.18648.5633-000001 Colborn, Paul P From: Colborn, Paul P Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 200111:51 AM To: ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Ce: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: RE: important: need review of draft PRA letter Brett, in addition to the substantive comments Ed and I have given you by phone, here are a few nits: Add full cite to Nixon v. GSA in 3rd para. In para. 7, add "whe ther" after "former President" in 3rd line, and change "Presidentiecords" t o "Presidential rec.ords" in 3rd-to-last line. In para. 9 {"First"), dehyphenate "long-standing" In para. 12 {"There also"), add "to" before "take" in line 10. ----Original Message----- (b) (5) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5630 Whelan, M Edward Ill From: Whelan, M Edward Ill Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:08 PM To: 'Kavanaugh, Brett' Subject: FW: important: need review of draft PRA letter FYI ----Original Message----From : Whelan, M Edward 111 Sent: Tuesday, Dec.ember 18, 2001 2:07 PM To: Burton, Faith; Thorsen, Carl Cc: Colborn, Paul P Subject: FW: important: need review of draft PRA letter Faith: Both Paul and I think that your sentence following reflects a couple edits for your consideration: " (b) (5) . The (b) (5) ." -- Ed -- --Original Messa ge--- From: Burton, Faith Sent: Tuesday, Dec.ember 18, 20011:54 PM To: Colborn, Paul P; Thorsen, Carl Subject: RE: important: need review of draft PRA letter What about this? FB -- --Original Message--- From: Colborn, Paul P Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:30 AM To: Burton, Faith Subject: FW: important: need review of draft PRA letter Faith, please call me about this. Also, I never received the signed OLA letter to Horn and Ose declining to answer their questions. Please fax that t o me asap at 58524. -- Paul ---Original Messa ge-- (b) (5) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5637 Document ID: O.7.18648.5637 Whelan, M Edward III From: Sent: To: Subject: Attachments: FYI: Whelan, M Edward III Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:23 AM 'Kavanaugh, Brett' FW: Draft letter to Burton, per our conversation burton.1218.rev.wpd Here are the OLC revisions from last night (b) (5) ). -----Original Message----From: Colborn, Paul P Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:16 PM Sent: To: Burton, Faith; Chertoff, Michael; Horowitz, Michael-CRM; Martens, Matthew; Whelan, M Edward III; Bybee, Jay; Thorsen, Carl; Durham, John; Herbert, James; Bryant, Dan Subject: RE: Draft letter to Burton, per our conversation Attached is OLC's suggested revision to OLA's draft. Jay Bybee was out of the office this afternoon and therefore hasn't reviewed this draft. But Ed Whelan and I thought it was important to circulate the draft today so everyone can start reviewing it. -----Original Message----Burton, Faith From: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:47 PM To: Chertoff, Michael; Horowitz, Michael-CRM; Martens, Matthew; Whelan, M Edward III; Bybee, Jay; Thorsen, Carl; Colborn, Paul P; Durham, John; Herbert, James; Bryant, Dan Subject: Draft letter to Burton, per our conversation << File: burton.1218.wpd >> If I've inadvertently omitted anyone from this circulation, would you please forward it to that individual; thanks. I will also share this with Beth Beers at the FBI. Faith Document ID: 0.7.18648.5644 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:00 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: Draft op-ed Attachments: WP Gonzales Presidential Reocrds draft 2 12.18.doc An op-ed is running tomorrow in Wash Post. Please review this draft ASAP. Thanks. {See attached file : WP Gonzales Presidential Reocrds draft 2 12.18.doc) Document ID: 0.7.18648.5649 Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov From: Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:54 PM To: Whelan, M Edward Ill Subject: FINAL CLEARANCE- SAP, H.R. 3210-Terrorism Risk Insurance Protection Act {Senate substitute) Attachments: HR3210 senate sap.wpd - - - - -- Fo rwarded by Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/ EOP on 12/19/2001 05:53 P M - - - - - Brett M. Kavanaugh 12/19/2001 05:48:46 PM Record Type: Record To: m.edward.whelan@udoj.gov@ inet cc: Subject: FINAL CLEARANCE- SAP, H.R. 3210-Terrorism Risk Insurance Prot ection Act {Senate substitute) - - - - -- Fo rwarded by Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP on 12/19/2001 05:48 PM-- - - - Danielle M. Simone tta 12/18/2001 08:34:07 PM Record Type: Record To: See the distribution list at the bottom of this message cc: Subject: FINAL CLEARANCE- SAP, H.R. 3210-Terrorism Risk Insurance Prot ection Act {Senate substitute) Here is the final version of the SAP on H.R. 3210, for your clearance . The SAP is written to reflect Sen . Document ID: 0.7.18648.5648 Daschle's proposed substitute amendment (not the House version ot the bill). The bill is s cheduled to be considered on the floor at some point after 12:00 pm tomorrow. Therefore, please respond t o me with your comments/clearance, by 11:00 am tomorrow, Wednesday, December 19th. If you have any questions, please call me. Thanks, Danielle {54790) {See attached file: HR3210 senate sap.wpd) DRAFT - NOT FOR RELEASE December 19, 2001 {Senate) (b) (5) ****** Document ID: 0.7.18648.5648 {Do Not Distribute Outside the Executive Office of the President) This Statement of Administration Policy was developed by the Legislative Reference Divis ion {Rodgers), in consultation with Commerce {Clark), Treasury {Dorsey), State {Faulkner), EP {Smith), NEC {Sumerlin), OVP {Addington), CEA {Furchtgott-Roth, Holtz-Eakin, Brown), BRO {Dale, Lebron, Timberlake), OIRA (Noe), OMBGC {Beynon), and HTF {Boden, Enger). Justice did not respond to our request for views. OMB/LA Clearance:_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ Administration Position to Date The Administration has not taken a position on the Senate version of H.R. 3210. On November 28, 2001, a SAP on H.R. 3210, the "Terrorism Risk Protection Act" was sent to the House Rules Committee. The SAP urged prompt passage of H.R. 3210 "as a step t oward enactment of legislation to ensure the continued availability of insurance for terrorist-related acts." H.R. 3210 included provisions that limited terrorist -related litigation. The SAP expressed the Adm inistration's concern with the repayment assessment mechanism and the administrative complexities of H.R. 3210 as a whole. The SAP also stated that "procedures for consolidation and management of mass tort litigation arising out of a terrorism incident are a necessary part of any meaningful terrorism insurance proposal, and thus a necessary condition for Administ ration support of any t errorism insurance bill." Summary of Senate Manager's Amendment to H.R. 3210 The following summary is based on a draft of a manager's amendment that Treasury staff believe will be offered as a substitute for the House passed version of H.R. 3210. The amendment would establish a temporary "Terrorism Insured Loss Shared Compensation Program" {Program) within the Department of the Treasury intended to ensure the continued availability of commercia l property and casualty insurance and reinsurance for terrorism-related risks. The amendment would provide for Federal assistance for future terrorism damage if it reache,s certain levels. That amount would be based on a formula, which is market share multiplied by $10 billion in the first year, and market share multiplied by $15 billion in the optional second year. For losses above this "retention !eve.I," the cost of terrorism losses would be shared. The Federal government would pay for approximately 80 percent of insurance losses below $10 billion, with the industry paying 20 percent. For losses between $10 billion and $100 billion, the split would be 90-10. The amendment would provide authority for one year to pay for certain property and casualty losses resulting from a terrorist attack; the authority could be extended for a second year. Authority of the Secretary of the Treasury. The amendment would make the Secretary of the Treasury responsible for car,rying out the program for financial assistance for commercial property and casualty insurers that would be established by the bill. The Secretary could ext end the Program an additional year, expiring on December 31, 2003. Triggering Determination and Federal Cost-Sharing for Commercial Insurers. • r r+ o .' '. ' ' '' • I •' Document ID: 0.7.18648.5648 I I . ' .' Under the amendment, 1-ederal tinancial assistance wou ld be triggered by a determination ot t he Secretary that the insured losses resulting from the event of an act of terrorism occurring during the covered period, or the aggregate insured losses resulting from multiple events of acts of terrorism all occurring during the covered period. The Secretary would have the sole authority for dete•rmining whether an occurrence or event was caused by an act of t errorism, whether insured losses from acts of t errorism were caused by one or multiple events or occurrences, and whether an act of terrorism occurred during the covered period. The amount of Federal assistance would be based on a formula, which is the "market share" of a participating insurance company (total amount of gross property and casualty insurance premiums during the 2-year period preceding the year in which the act of terrorism occurred, as a percentage of the aggregate of all industry wide premiums) multiplied by $10 billion in the first year, arnd market share multiplied by $15 billion in the optional second year. For losses above the "insurance company's deductible," the cost of terrorism losses would be shared. The Federal government would pay for approximately 80 percent of insurance losses below $10 billion, with the industry paying 20 percent. For losses between $10 billion and $100 billion, the split would be 90-10. The amendment would provide authority for one year to pay for certain property and casualty losses resulting from a terrorist attack; the authority could be ext ended for a second year. The aggregate amount of finarncial assistance provided could not exceed $100 billion. Sovereign Immunity Protections. Whenever Federal financial assistance is t riggered (i.e., whenever an act of terrorism occurs), the amendment would provide for a Federal cause of action which would be the exclusive remedy for damages claimed pursuant to any acts of terrorism that caused the insured losses. These cases would be governed by the law of the State in which the act of terroris m occurred, unless such law is inconsistent with or preempted by Federa l law. Under the amendment, the plaintiff may seek any form of recovery from any person, government, or other entity that was a participant in, or aider and abettor of, any act of terrorism. Ext ension of Program. The Secretary could, upon making a determination that an ext ension of the provisions of the bill is necessary to ensure the adequate availability in the United States of commercial property and casualty insurance coverage for acts of terrorism, ext end the period in which these provisions apply to a date no later than December 31, 2003. State Preemption. Under the amendment, a commercial insurer would be considered t o have complied with any State law that requires or regulates the provision of insurance coverage for acts of terrorism if the insurer provides coverage in accordance with the definitions regarding acts of terrorism under the regu lations issued by the Secretary. If any provision of any State law prevents an insurer ifrom increasing its premium rates in an amount necessary to recover any assessments pursuant to the amendment, such provision is preempted only to the ext ent necessary to provide for such insurer to recover such losses. Studies and Reports. Under the amendment, no later than 9 months after the date of enactment the Secretary would be required to submit a report to Congress that would consider the impact of the Program on: {1) the availability of insurance coverage for acts of terrorism; {2) the affordability of such coverage, including the effect of such coverage of premiums; and {3) the capacity of the insurance industry to absorb future losses resulting from acts of t errorism, taking into account the profitability of the insurance industry. The Secretary would also consider the probable impact on the United States economy if the Program terminates at midnight on December 31, 2002. Within 9 months of enactment of the amendment, the Secretary would be required to conduct a study and report t o the Congress on the potential effects of acts of terrorism on the life insurarnce industry in Document ID: 0.7.18648.5648 the United Sta tes and other lines of insurance coverage. The Secre tary would be required to consult with the National Association of Insurance Commissioners {NAie}, representatives of the insurance industry, and other expe rts in the field. Beginning 6 months after e nactme nt of the ame ndme nt, and e ve ry 6 months thereafter, e ach participating insurance company would be required to submit a report to the NAIC that states the premium rates charged by that insurance company during the preceding 6-month period for insured losses covered by the Program, a nd includes an explanation of and justification for those rates. The NAIC would be required to forward copies of each report submitted, t o the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Co mmerce, the Chairman of the Federal Trade Commission, and the Comptroller General of the Unit ed Sta tes. The Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Commerce, and the Chairman of the Federal Trade Commission would be required to submit a joint report t o Congress and the Comptroller General of the United States summarizing and e valuating the reports forwarded by NAIC. No later than 9 0 days after receipt, the Comptroller General of the United States would be required to e valuate and s ubmit a report t o Congress an e valuating the reports. Pay-As-You-Go Scoring According to BRO {l ee), the ame ndme nt would affect direct spe nding and receipts; the refore, it is subject to the pay-a s-you-go requireme nts of the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990. RMO staff advises that the bill could pote ntially have a PAYGO cost, but an 0M B estimate has not been made. Cost est imates a re proble matic due to unce rtainties involving future acts of terrorism. CBO scoring of the manager's ame ndment is not ye t available . LEGISLATIVE REFER ENCE DIVISION DECEMBER 18, 2001 Message Se nt To:_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ Nicholas E. Calio/WHO/EOP@ EOP Joel D. Kaplan/WHO/EOP@ EOP Kriste n Silverberg/WHO/EOP@ EOP Jack Howard/WHO/EOP@ EOP Ziad S. Ojakli/WHO/EOP@ EOP Matthe w Kirk/WHO/ EOP@EOP Michael J. Co nway/WHO/EOP@ EOP Jill Davie/WHO/EOP@ EOP Alison Jones/WHO/EOP@ EO P Ashle y Holbrook/WHO/EOP@ EOP Daniel M. McCa rthy/WHO/EOP@ EOP D. Marcus Su me rlin/ OPD/ EOP@ EOP Leslie A. Moone y/OPD/EOP@ EOP Allison L. Rie pe nhoff/WHO/ EOP@ EOP Diana L. Schacht/OPD/EOP@ EOP Re becca L. Halkias/WHO/EOP@ EOP ' " ' - - -' · · t Document ID: 0.7.18648.5648 ,-. _ • • LL - l\4 11tl""\ / r r.r,...-::-.r l"'\ n wenay J. (:,rU00S/WHU/ tUl'(!!)tUI' Edward lngle /WHO/EOP@EOP Albert Ha wki ns/WHO/ EOP@EOP Nancy P. Oorn/WHO/EOP Cand ida P. Wolff/ OVP/EOP@EOP Lauren K. Allgood/OVP/EOP@EOP Cesar Conda/OVP/EOP@EOP Neil S. Patel/OVP/EOP@EOP Jonathan W. Burks/OVP/EOP@EOP Douglas J. Ho ltz-Eakin/CENEOP@EOP Diana E. Furchtgott-Roth/CENEOP@EOP Daniel J. Bartlett/WHO/ EOP@EOP Susan 8. Rals ton/WHO/EOP@EOP Harriet Miers/WHO/ EOP@EOP Stuart W. Bowen/WHO/ EOP@EOP Barbara A. Barclay/WHO/EOP@EOP Debra 0. Bird/WHO/ EOP@EOP Carolyn E. Cleveland/WHO/EOP@EOP Karen 0. Cruson/WHO/EOP@EOP Lauren C. Lobrano/ OMB/ EOP@EOP Chris tine C. McCarlie/ OMB/ EOP@EOP Eric C. Pelletier/OMB/EOP@ EOP Randall S. Kroszner/CEN EOP@EOP Brett M. Kavanaugh/WHO/EOP@ EO P David S. Addington/ OVP/EOP@EOP Linda C. Luis i/NSC/ EOP@EOP George M. Andricos/NSC/ EOP@EOP John A. Cloud/NSC/ EOP@EOP John F. Sammis/NSC/EOP@ EOP Amy C. Smith/OMB/EOP@ EO P Document ID: 0.7.18648.5648 Colborn, Paul P Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:16 AM To: ' Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov'; Thorsen, Carl; Bryant, Dan Ce: Subject: Whelan, M Edward Ill Attachments: burton.1219.olc.wpd RE: Burton letter Brett: Attached is the fina l version. I'm also faxing you a signed copy. I'll leave it to Dan or Carl to (b) (5) respond on the quest ion. -- Paul ----Original Message--- From : Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov [mailto:Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:46 PM To: Thorsen, Carl; Bryant, Dan; Colborn, Paul P Subject: Burton letter few questions: can someone e-ma il me final version of letter to Burton? ? Document ID: 0.7.18648.5651 (b) (5) U.S. Department of Justice Office of Legislative Affairs Office of the Assistant Attorney General Washington, D.C. 20530 December 19, 2001 The Honorable Dan Burton Chairman Committee on Government Reform U.S. House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515 Dear Mr. Chairman: I am writing to follow up regarding the Committee’s subpoenas seeking prosecutorial decisonmaking memoranda in connection with the Committee’s investigations of campaign finance matters, alleged false statements by an individual (Ernest Howard) in a separate investigation, and the FBI’s handling of informants in Boston. The Department stands ready to work with the Committee to seek to accommodate the legitimate needs that the Committee may have for information regarding these matters. The Department has a strong confidentiality interest in the extremely sensitive prosecutorial decisionmaking documents called for by the subpoenas. The Attorney General and other Department decisionmakers must have the benefit of candid and confidential advice and recommendations in making investigative and prosecutorial decisions. Consistent with the longstanding position of the executive branch with respect to these kinds of highly sensitive memoranda, the President has therefore asserted executive privilege with respect to the subpoenaed documents. At the same time, he has requested that the Department remain willing to work with the Committee to provide such information as the Department can, consistent with his instructions and without violating the constitutional doctrine of separation of powers. Pursuant to longstanding executive branch policy, in responding to congressional requests for confidential information, the Department seeks in all cases to engage in an accommodation process in an effort to satisfy legitimate congressional needs while protecting executive branch confidentiality interests. The Department has already accommodated the Committee’s information needs with respect to the prosecutorial memoranda relating to campaign finance and the Howard matter. We have provided briefings on the reasons for the decisions to decline prosecutions for Ernest Howard and Mark Middleton, which your August 30, 2001, letter indicated were very helpful. With regard to the Conrad collection of memoranda, on August 23, 2000, Document ID: 0.7.18648.5651-000001 then Attorney General Reno publicly stated the reasons for her decision not to appoint a Special Counsel and, on October 5, 2000, you questioned her about that decision in an interview on the record. Prior to these explanations, the Department had provided the underlying factual records relating to each matter, to the extent permissible under the grand jury secrecy requirements of Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. In the October 2000 meeting, some information also could not be provided because of its relevance to then pending investigations. As to the Boston matter, we believe that the Department and the Committee can work together to provide the Committee additional information without compromising the principles maintained by the executive branch. We will be prepared to make a proposal as to how further to accommodate the Committee’s needs as soon as you inform us in writing of the specific needs the Committee has for additional information. See United States v. American Tel. & Tel. Co., 567 F.2d 121, 127 (D.C. Cir. 1977); Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities v. Nixon, 498 F.2d 725, 731 (D.C. Cir. 1974) (en banc). The Department has been providing an extensive body of other materials to the Committee since April 27, 2001, when we provided approximately 1178 pages in response to your request of March 30, 2001 for documents about the murder of Mr. Edward Deegan, for which Mr. Joseph Salvati and six others were convicted. Since the crime was not prosecuted federally, the FBI does not have a discrete file on the subject. Hence, the responsive documents were found in other files and some information was redacted because it pertained to other matters outside the scope of the Committee’s request. In August 2001, Committee counsel reviewed unredacted copies of these documents and some pages were re-processed to restore information that was responsive to your June 5 request for documents on other Boston matters. More than 3800 pages have been produced in response to that request and the FBI is still processing responsive documents regarding the FBI’s handling of informants in Boston. We expect to provide documents regarding the FBI’s Top Hoodlum Program this week and to produce additional documents after the Holiday recess. The document production process for the Boston matters has thus been proceeding since March of this year. We note, moreover, that the Committee’s March and June requests did not indicate any interest in the prosecutorial decision-making memoranda and the Committee did not even request them until it subpoenaed them on September 6. The Committee then immediately scheduled for September 13 a hearing regarding its demand for these documents. When that hearing was postponed due to the events of September 11, the Department was advised that the matter would be deferred until a later time. We first learned that the Committee was renewing the matter during the week following Thanksgiving when the hearing was re-scheduled for December 6. It was postponed to December 13 at the Department’s request so that Assistant Attorney General Michael Chertoff could testify, but his obligations relating to the September 11 investigation made that appearance impossible and the Chairman refused the Attorney General’s request that the hearing be postponed to the week of December 17. 2 Document ID: 0.7.18648.5651-000001 The Department fully respects the Committee’s interest in reviewing allegations of misconduct by government employees, and we have provided, and will continue to provide, investigative records, judicial filings, and other records responsive to your requests, consistent with the accommodation process. Of course, we cannot provide grand jury information covered by Rule 6(e), electronic surveillance information subject to Title III, or information that would identify confidential informants. Finally, as the Committee is aware, the Department is fully committed to addressing corruption in the handling of informants by the FBI in Boston and has dedicated extensive resources to that purpose. In 1999, the Justice Task Force was established to investigate law enforcement corruption relating to Messrs. James Bulger and Stephen Flemmi. The Task Force has expanded the scope of the inquiry to include allegations that FBI agents and prosecutors allowed a witness to frame Mr. Salvati and others for the Deegan murder while permitting that witness to protect another individual, who was central to the murder conspiracy. It was the Task Force that located exculpatory documents, which led to the release of Peter Limone and the dismissal of charges against Mr. Salvati and Mr. Limone. The Task Force also has obtained the indictment of former FBI Special Agent John Connolly, which is expected to go to trial early in 2002. Additionally, the United States Attorney’s Office in Boston obtained indictments against Messrs. Bulger and Flemmi in 1995 and in 2000, charging them with 19 and 10 murders, respectively. The ongoing work of the Task Force and the United States Attorney’s Office is dedicated to investigating and prosecuting corruption by FBI agents and prosecutors relating to the handling of informants, as well as any underlying crimes that may have been committed by those individuals. As these efforts proceed, it will be important to ensure that they are based only on the evidence and the law, free from any political influence or coercion. We have not objected to the Committee’s undertaking its own investigation and we understand that Committee staff have conducted interviews and may have undertaken other investigative steps in Boston and elsewhere. We ask that the Committee provide us with information that it believes may be relevant to potential violations of federal criminal law. We understand the Committee’s interest in not deferring its own inquiry while our criminal investigations continue, and we trust that the two can continue independently, as has often happened historically. The Department looks forward to a continued dialogue with the Committee so we can accommodate your legitimate oversight needs for information in a manner that is consistent with 3 Document ID: 0.7.18648.5651-000001 our law enforcement responsibilities. We would like to resume such a constructive conversation as soon as possible. Sincerely, Daniel J. Bryant Assistant Attorney General cc: The Honorable Henry Waxman Ranking Minority Member Members of Committee on Government Reform 4 Document ID: 0.7.18648.5651-000001 Colborn, Paul P From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Has the letter gone out? -- Paul Ed Brett: cc: Colborn, Paul P Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:29 AM 'Brett_M._Kavanaugh@who.eop.gov' Whelan, M Edward III Letter to Chairman Horn re presidential records executive order Document ID: 0.7.18648.5650 If so, could you fax me the signed copy at 305-8524? Thanks.