Depo - Clay Hill - Sep 24 2003 19 at that point consider the use of force reasonable and 20 minimizing the risk of physical discomfort, harm, or 21 pain to her? 22 23 MR. DAW: A. Form. Again, according to the information I had, I'm 24 not willing to agree that the restraint caused the 25 suffocation. And that's -- that's my answer. O'NEAL * PROBST * WELLS - 713.521.1314 251 1 2 Q. (BY MR. COLLMER) And why are you not willing to agree to that? 3 A. Well, I just am not sure that's what did. 4 Q. Well, do you have any information which says 5 that something else caused her to die during the 6 restraint coincidentally immediately proximal in time to 7 the restraint being applied to her? 8 9 MR. DAW: Form. And that's not how it happened, and you know that. 10 MR. COLLMER: That's just not true. You 11 know, that is how it happened. 12 department reports say one thing. 13 massage the people, they say a different story. 14 want to get into the issue of whether or not suborning 15 was involved, that's a different issue. 16 involved in but it sure looks like people's stories 17 change radically from what they first told the sheriff's 18 people. 19 20 MR. DAW: You know, the sheriff's After the lawyers If you Not one I'm Well, yeah, I appreciate you saying that. 21 MR. COLLMER: 22 MR. DAW: 23 MR. COLLMER: Yeah, you know -- But the way you just --- you -- you wanted to Page 215