Messages exported from: DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 With: Clare Curran (64 3/10/18 11:53 PM (Viewed 3/11/18 2:08 AM) Clare Curran (64 DigitalNZ@mbie.govt.nz 3/12/18 3:12 PM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Thx. Will email expression of interest and watch out for the process updates. Be well! 7/30/18 10:24 PM (Viewed 7/30/18 10:55 PM) Clare Curran (64 Hi Derek Clare Curran here. Are you available for a chat just after 8am NZ time tomorrow (Tuesday). 7/30/18 10:57 PM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Hi Clare, yes that works. Will you call me or do you want me to call you? Derek 7/31/18 7:37 AM (Viewed 7/31/18 7:41 AM) Clare Curran (64 I'll call you 7/31/18 9:49 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 If there’s anything else you need to ask or for me to do, for example audition for Dancing with the Stars, hit a hole in one or write an epic poem in the style of the Iliad or Odyssee on why I could do this job - just let me know and I’ll get right on it ;) 8/1/18 8:31 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Morning Clare I just want to assure you once more that the concerns you raised yesterday are concerns I’m aware of but are not ones that phase me. I have thought about them all deeply or I would not still be here at this stage. I’m unafraid of any public attacks; confident of finding ways to navigate likely bureaucracy; and am aware of past perceptions of me from more youthful and less wisdom-filled days on my path! I’m grounded in my own truth of what I’m here to serve, and am now more unflappable and more sure of who I am now than ever before. So all will be well no matter what your decision - but I can do this. :-) Dh 8/1/18 8:57 AM (Viewed 8/1/18 9:16 AM) Clare Curran (64 All good Derek. If you can demonstrate zen like patience for just a few more days. C ��♀# 8/1/18 9:56 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Absolutely. I’ve just started “Autobiography of a Yogi”. The book Steve Jobs gave to everybody at his funeral. It will take me at least those few more days to read it and in between will be tending to the thriving but unruly vegetable garden :-) 8/8/18 5:44 PM (Viewed 8/8/18 9:45 PM) Clare Curran (64 When can I call 8/8/18 9:48 PM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Hey Clare If you're still up, I'm awake now so could speak in 10 mins. If it's too late tonight I can speak at 8-10am NZT tomorrow or most of the later in the day tomorrow NZT. D 8/8/18 9:51 PM (Viewed 8/8/18 9:52 PM) Clare Curran (64 Ha! I am a politician. We never sleep. I'm in my office doing paperwork. Text when free 1 8/8/18 9:52 PM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Ok. Let me get organised. Be just a few mins. 8/8/18 10:06 PM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Ok. Can talk. 8/8/18 10:31 PM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 It's such an immense privilege to have this opportunity! Thank you 😊 8/8/18 10:33 PM (Viewed 8/8/18 10:36 PM) Clare Curran (64 This is such new territory for NZ. It feels a bit Star Trek 8/9/18 9:06 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Yes..! Well, when nothing is sure, everything is possible... 🚀 ☀ 8/9/18 9:54 AM (Viewed 8/9/18 9:55 AM) Clare Curran (64 So my private secretary for DIA will be in touch within hours to talk contract stuff. 8/9/18 9:56 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Sounds good ️ 8/15/18 8:34 PM (Viewed 8/15/18 10:24 PM) Clare Curran (64 So text when you are up, for a quick call 8/15/18 10:37 PM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Hello there. I can chat now 8/15/18 10:44 PM (Viewed 8/15/18 10:46 PM) Clare Curran (64 Hi I'm really tired and hope it's ok if we talk at 7.15am nz time tomorrow. The appointment went through Cabinet cttee today fine. Still to go to full Cabinet Monday. I'm keen to talk through announcement and other matters but have run out of oomph tonight. All is good tho. Full steam ahead. Talk in my morning 8/15/18 10:47 PM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Very good! Makes total sense. Speak at 715! Have a good rest. 8/16/18 7:56 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 On reflection of our call-I think other than the fact that you are only new once like we spoke about, it's a key risk to announce the appointment when the conflicts and contract etc is not all completed. One key reflection is that it's not done until it's done and we should get all our ducks in a row, nail all the conflicts, clean it all up and then announced. My gut is telling me it risks being rushed and not fully thought out. 8/16/18 7:59 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 For example if media ask Qs about things like that and we don't have answers yet...it might risk looking silly. 2 8/16/18 8:01 AM (Viewed 8/16/18 8:05 AM) Clare Curran (64 We will not put you in that position. I realise you have questions but we are working quickly through the issues. will make contact in a couple of hours 8/16/18 10:28 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Ok. I still feel it's rushed and with risk. I would be more comfortable if we had more time to prepare properly. I appreciate if week of Sept 10 is too far but hopefully there is a happy medium between Monday and then! Will wait to hear from you. 8/16/18 9:35 PM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Good evening! How did it go - any update on comms plan? Also didn't hear from anybody at DIA today re conflicts, FYI. I'm up and about if you want to chat. D 8/17/18 7:04 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Hi Clare. I just had a good chat w Thursday NZT sounds like a much better option. I got contract late last night so will work thru that and all other issues w and start on the comms planning. Feeling much more comfortable for all concerned! Have a great day and let me know if you want to chat  8/17/18 8:27 AM (Viewed 8/17/18 8:44 AM) Clare Curran (64 That's great. I'm on the case. I want DIA lawyers to clarify conflicts of interest for you today and answer any other questions. I'll call again in next few hours. In the meantime see this? https://apolitical.co/solution_article/mapped-the-worlds-best-digitalgovernments/?utm_source=The+Apolitical+Platform&utm_campaign=42010556e5EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_08_15_11_03&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a11f6796a2-42010556e5-185551785 8/17/18 8:27 AM (Viewed 8/17/18 8:44 AM) Clare Curran (64 And this https://apolitical.co/lists/digital-government-world100? utm_source=Access+Granted+NZ+email&utm_campaign=52e57369b4EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_08_15_03_13&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f45883ab83-52e57369b4-55902151 8/17/18 8:44 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Thx. I saw that list of "people" but hadn't seen the list of countries. 8/17/18 8:48 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 As an aside, I almost invested in that company - Apolitical. The founder studied at Auckland Uni. 8/17/18 9:41 AM (Viewed 8/17/18 9:53 AM) Clare Curran (64 Can I call you in an hour or is that too late 8/17/18 10:01 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Yes it's Ok! I have guests over for dinner so can speak for maybe 15-20 if that works? Or could do longer call much later in about 4/5 hours. 8/17/18 10:50 AM DGH Unlocked iPhone 5s (+19 Standing by if you still want to call 36 total messages and 0 total images. 3 9/22/2012 pm; Handing Man Emmi i I Derek Handlay -- Email address 1 message Derek Handlay Sat, Mar 3' 2018 at 11.19 AM To C'are Curran Dear C'are Hope you are we". Please share the emaxl address shoum get In touch wuth wm be heanng back to New York tomorrow AM the best and hope to speak soon. Derek 9/22/2018 Duet Handlc) Mali rQSandThoughls i I Derek Handloy -- OS and Thoughts 5 messages Derek Handlay Sal, Aug 11,2018 319212 AM To Clale Culran Hello Clare So excited to be moving forward with this. It's such an amazing opponunity and privilege to help shape New Zealand - has sent me a draft offer letteri which I review and get back to her on logistic and administrative next steps but I assume I should lay out my more essential questions and thoughts here with you. As we spoke about below I'm laying out my main questions and thoughts I would like to start to work through with you over the coming days Let me know if I should be dealing with. on any of the below) Let's chat again very soon please! Derek 1. Resources and team - this is my number one most pressing consideration and has been from the outset - I am excited to really dive into this as soon as you have time to All of the obiectives (digital equal 1 economy I connected nation) etc require a lot of thinking, coordination mapping and communicating - the resources for this are my primary concern Aside from those above objectives - developing a stakeholder-led strategy requires a dedicated sharp and creative team lull time The original cabinet paper notes two dedicated stall members from GDCO and MBIE - is this still the thinking? Would love to chat more about this with you and whoever else would be involved in resourcing, How would we handle external hires/contractors/suppon ifdeemed best? have an idea of the type of team think would be ideal and imagine it to be a mix of internal and external people - as well as some international thinkers 2. Operational budgeufunding a To carry out the functions in the role well, there also needs to be some operational budget for things like convening communications design content etc for stakeholder and community collaboration as well as the outputs you would need (published maleriaL web contentetc) lorthatengagement 3. Conllicts or Disclosures submitted a draft proposal of issues and potential conllicts in the intenhew process On the phone you mentioned it's best we work through this togetherfitst - I have attached the memo to this email so you can see howl laid it out. Each one needs to be worked through carefully so that everybody understands them fully but think the most sensitive one is- if your advice comes back than can keep and lust be acutely aware of managing any lwould much prefer this - especially given 0 contract is lust one year and can be terminated 4, Timing has also asked about this so share the below her too - amily and I will be on the ground on Monday the 10th of September - my preference would be to announce in person during thatweek My preference for a start date would be October to give me a lew weeks to get settled as we have just bought a new house its got renovations etci getting. in school and all that stuff. Not sure how this sits you, 5, Location it hasn't been mentioned In any material to date that this role requires being located in Wellington so I have assumed location is not I understand from that I get an some at (I assume tn have some ldeas amund location - I would ptefer a mostly work embedded/"In Resldence" Ihe communtly atvarious organisations around the country - but would like an Auckland base as well a. "Announcement" Would like to hear your thoughts on how you have been thinking about this The announcement itself is an opportunity to kick off a broader engagement campaign and enlist self-selected leaders who to collaborate My preference would be to not 'waste' the announcement by just making it one way -- but by using it to kick off a two way conversation from the outset Deni Marl rQSaIIdThougms and Mattersdocx "3 127K Clara Curran Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 2.48 PM To Derek Han ey Thanks (or read, absorb and respond over weekend leuored [ext hlddefl] Clara Curran Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 3.51 PM To Derek Han ey Good thoughts. I theJPY one Is probably a talk that through a tew people. The other polenllal don't leap out at me ough Cablnet Office will have a Vlew agree some thought should go Into the the announcement l'm relaxed about It must sult you and famlly Could you work out a wee proposal around a broader engagement plan and an event to It off? And resources have more substantral to say next week though pard be trom DIA am very keen to a group of strong support people to be gathered around you, lncludrng and others yet to be determrned These be your "team" and you have to be that they WII Re budgel' I'll have more detarls to say aboutthat next week We should set up an actual tlrne to talk next week. I can do 5am Tuesday or Wednesday (NZ trme) or 7 30am Thursday leuored [ext hlddefl] Derek Handley Mon Aug t3, 2018 at 4.23 AM To Clare Curran Good mormng Clare, speakrng 730am your Thursday would be good because you have more thoughts on start budget by then Can we confirm that llme7 Also that glve me trme to share some more thoughts on those and the other lssues below over the commg days Speak soon Derek leuored [ext hlddefl] Derek Handlay Tue Aug 14,2018 at 2.23 PM To Clare Curran Clare Can you confirm the llme below works and we can speak lhen7 Thanksl Derek [Quoted Clara Curran Tue' Aug 14, 2018 at 7.15 PM To Derek Han ey 715am n2 trme But also may call Tuesday euemng my trme to update you on cabrnet cttee 9/22/2012 Handing Man rQSmIdThougms leumed Ken mddenl Clara Curran Tuey Aug 14, 2018 at 7.55 PM To Derek Han ey Sorry Wednesday evemng n0! Tuesday But 7 153m Thursday NZ ume for me can [Ounled lenmddefl] Derek Handlay Wed Aug 15, 2018 at 2.44 AM To mare Curran mere 0mm So. - you may can thus evemng we Wed NZT update re Cabinet - we speak at 715am Thurs NZT re an e'se. Thanks Derek leumed Ken mddenl qlzz/zols Handle) Mall thing: i I Derek Handley -- things 2 messages Clara Curran SuniAug19,2018 at 5:13 PM To Derek l-lan ey So By tomorrow there be a dralt media leleasei backgrounder on you. dralt set ol potential oueslions lhat you/melPM might be asked (challenging ones lncluded) and a set ol dot points tor me lo talk lo when you are announced want to talk up your retuming home. The whole Kiwrs come home thing is really important as a message (or this govt I know you weren'l born a but I think you mighl ldenlify as one77 hope so as lhis is a really slrong poinl. Plus the journey you have been on and your insights having lived so long overseas as well as your actual achievements, What kind or country could NZ be? Thal's the oueslion we wanl lo be able to answer and how to gel there i practical terms, And then lhe importance or social inclusion and social benefits ola bigger locus on tech, Just a lew small things. We can talk lomorrow I hope lhe discussions the BIA people are working out and thatyou be able lo sign a contract soon. This is getting Derek Handlay Mon. Aug 20, 2018 312238 PM To Clale Culran Hello Clale Thanks (or your note l've been getling updates over the weekend which is good, We have also been working mm on the media stralegy and other channels need to update in near real time (eg- definllely - most definllely - identity as a KIWI, us so essential lo me and is a major reason wanled to come home - to contribute lo somewhere care deeply about on an intimate level also so strongly believe in our ability lo become a global beacon or hope and crealivity tor progress. have spoken with at several limes over lhe weekend and mosl recently lust now aflel your Cahlnel meeling wnich heard wenl we worked with my lawyers over the weekend to send over a marked up version o1 lhe contracl documents lhis morning NZT wnich know- spoke to you aboul a lew hours ago. am 0K With all the proposed solutions including the Oct 1 -- and 3 months severance, So hopefully the next version sends me (which I am waiting up for here lo receive so can get it back to him your loday) is one 99% ready for signing has been exceplional to work with So we are iust a lew days away now - very exciting indeed. Let's speak tomorrovin Derek [Ounled Ken muoenl l/l 9/22/2013 Duck Handlc) Mail some ldca: lo Slancd on Muerlan i I Derek Handley -- some ideas to get started on workplan 2 messages Clara Curran Tue Aug 21,2013 at 1:24 PM To Derek Han ey Hl Ihele l've attached some thoughts around how to gel us slaned l'rn officials In put together a bunch 0! reports and briefings on the I've been on where the govt is to date on things like aniflclal intelligence, inlemet 01 Ihingsi 56' digllal digllal digital inclusion elc. . in try not to bombard you ([00 much) no ooubt be sending you a bunch lo read Lignl leading lot Ihe plane -) Let's start working on a work plan and here's a starterlor to, Sony nol very analytical, iusl lap 01 mind worth leading me Future ofWolk repon that a bunch ol Labour MPs did in opposition (leo by Grant Robertson We are on lhalwork in govt rillps l/dansaaprownmx pdl71478147232 rillps labour org rlz/granlirubensonilaunchi rillps stufl co And here's Labour's loT policy let me 2017 election (Note this is Labours policy ano therelore not necessarlly govt policy l/danSaBpm7vhmx pdl71504908762 iusl some things to get slarteo on -) Workplan.dncx 16K Derek Handlay Tuei Aug 21,2018 313231 PM To Clale Culran Greall Thanks lot sharing. l'm up to speed the plans and remaining item we need to achieve yia- al DIA. Jusl spoke lo him and am ofllo bed now as is coming on midnight Let me know it you want In chat tomorrow orwhenever, Derek [Ounled Ken hldaefl]