STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 161st Legislative Day 1/6/2011 continue to work on this issue, but it now needs to be resolved, not by eliminating it, but by reforming it. commission has given us a road map. The We have the time to implement additional reforms and it's also time then for the Governor to review every case of the death penalty on a case by case analysis. He has that ability to do that, even if he doesn't agree with what happened by the jury, then he can do that. And finally, Ladies and Gentlemen, natural life without parole… Let me just close up. I just need a few minutes. Natural life without parole is not worse than the death penalty. I don't believe that to be the case, when you're still able to have human contact and be able to walk around a prison for however many years that may be. I don’t think that is worse than death 'cause I guarantee that the victim's families wish that that loved one was back. I urge this Body to vote 'no'. Thank you, Mr. Speaker." Speaker Mautino: "Further discussion? The Lady from Cook, Representative Mendoza." Mendoza: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Ladies and Gentlemen, today marks the end of a long and difficult journey for me on the issue of the death penalty. Many of you may recall that I was one of the last Members in this chamber to pass an expansion of the death penalty. In fact, there was no issue that I was more passionate about than that one issue. Throughout my entire life, I've been a staunch supporter of the death penalty and a firm believer in the justice it serves and the punishment it represents for the worst of the worst in our society. I still believe that to be true. 09600161.doc 114 STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 161st Legislative Day 1/6/2011 I want to leave no doubt that I feel no compassion or see any value whatsoever in the lives of the truly guilty on death row. I could administer the death penalty myself to a cop killer or a serial murderer and sleep like a baby at night, if I knew without a doubt of their guilt. matter of fact, I believe that our current As a manner of executing the guilty in Illinois is much too compassionate and shows respect for life where the killer had none. I believe that a sanitized death is too kind and that the guilty should die in a manner much harsher, truer to the crimes that they committed. I know that this may sound cruel to some of you, but it pales in comparison to the cruelty inflicted upon so many innocent victims by these murderous animals. But this debate for me is no longer about whether or not guilty killers deserve to die for their crimes, they do deserve to die, they do. However, over the 10 years that I have served in this chamber and having to acknowledge the indisputable fact that we have exonerated more innocent actually executed, advanced only necessary to acknowledging a recognizing handful, ensure the people fact at in the most, that we that we Illinois fact of fix are the the human than that many we we've have reforms system, and and prone to making mistakes, no matter how honest our intentions, I have come to realize that in order to ensure that justice is served in the form of death to an evil cancer in our society we must innocent person. accept the possibility of executing an I'm not okay with that and none of us should be okay with that. Illinois has the worst record in 09600161.doc 115 STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 161st Legislative Day 1/6/2011 the country when it comes to getting it right. We've come horrifyingly close to executing innocent men and it could happen again. Every time we punish an innocent man, we're rewarding a guilty criminal by allowing them the freedom to continue to harm others. This is not being tough on crime. That is why for the last five years, I've led the charge with your help to pass felony arrestee DNA. stalled in the Senate. It shamefully DNA will help us punish the guilty and exonerate the innocent, yet it shamefully stalled in the Senate. Over five years of trying hard and we still can't pass this sensible and necessary reform measure. I see little to no hope of passing the multitude of other reform measures recommended to fix our broken death penalty system. State's attorneys across this state and this General Assembly must do much more than has been done to address the 85 reforms measures that have still not been passed and that are necessary to lift the moratorium. this pace, if it takes us five-plus years to pass At a sensible tool like felony arrestee DNA, how long is it going to take to tackle the rest of the reform measures? Folks, my journey has been difficult and it's been wrought with self challenge and self reflection and self-doubt; however, over the years, I challenged myself to get out of my comfort zone and I did so when I personally met with death row exonerees. Four years ago, Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno, introduced me to Madison Hobley, one of the John Burge torture victims. Tillis. Three years ago I met with Darby These men were innocent. They were wronged by all of us because their wrongful convictions were on behalf of 09600161.doc 116 STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 161st Legislative Day 1/6/2011 the people of Illinois. Speaking to them and hearing their horror stories of being hours away from execution made me reflect on my own beliefs regarding our ability to apply the death penalty in a fair and error free way. it can't be done. I believe I can no longer stomach the idea of potentially executing an innocent person in order to ensure that the guilty pay for their crimes. That is why today I rise in acknowledgement of the fact that our death penalty system is broken beyond repair and that the right thing to do is to abolish it with the understanding that those who are on it today should be remanded to spending the rest of their lives behind bars with no chance of parole. Life with no chance of parole may not satisfy my or victim's emotional desire for justice, but it does meet our responsibility of keeping society safe from these animals. It means that their punishment will result in death but in jail and away from society. In the event that our criminal justice system once again wrongfully convicts an innocent person, there is still a chance…" Speaker Mautino: Berrios: "Representative Berrios." "Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to give Representative Mendoza my time." Speaker Mautino: Berrios: Mendoza: "Grant the Lady five minutes." "Thank you." "In the event that our criminal justice system once again wrongfully convicts an innocent person, God forbid, there is still a chance that that wrong can be righted. With death, that is not possible. I understand that this is a very, very personal, controversial, emotional issue 09600161.doc 117 STATE OF ILLINOIS 96th GENERAL ASSEMBLY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TRANSCRIPTION DEBATE 161st Legislative Day 1/6/2011 for many of us, and I respect each and every person in this chamber's position, but for those of you who are on the fence on whether or not to vote for this, I hope you can understand my reasons and consider voting 'aye'." Speaker Mautino: "Further discussion? The Gentleman from Cook, Representative Burns." Burns: "Thank you, Speaker. To the Bill. convenient piece of legislation. This is not a It's not an easy piece of legislation. It is a difficult issue to talk about and to think about. As a son of a law enforcement officer, who spent 25 years in the Cleveland Police Department, when I heard about cop shootings I wondered whether or not it was my father empathize who might with the have been families of shot that victims day. and And with I their plight, but the simple fact of the matter is this, that the death penalty is not applied equitably across our society, that the application of the death penalty, in fact, in many cases, enforces many of the inequalities that currently exist in our society, that if you live outside of Cook County, you are more likely to be sentenced to death than if you African live inside American who of Cook kills County, that white victim, a if you're you're an more likely to be sentenced to death than a white person who kills a black person, that if you're low income, if you are uneducated, that you're more likely to be sentenced to death than someone who has more education and more money. That simply does not comport with our notion of what a just society is. It is not fair and it is not right. I leave… I don't want to talk too long, because we have a lot of 09600161.doc 118