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■APPEALS
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHEiiN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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PLAINTIFF,

CASE NUMBER
01-6095-CR-WDF

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vs.

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WILBERT McKREITH,
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VOLUME 5 of 6:
PAGES 1070-1212

Defendant.
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TRANSCRIPT of JURY TRIAL had before THE HONORABLE

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JOSE A. GONZALEZ, JR., in Fort Lauderdale, Broward County,

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Florida, on Tuesday, December 17, 2002, in the above-styled

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matter.
APPEARANCES:
FOR THE GOVERNMENT;

BERTHA MIIRANI,
ROGER STEFIN,
Assistant U.S. Attorneys

FOR THE DEFENDANT;

JOHN HOWES, ESQ.

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ANITA LaROCCA
OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
U. S. COURTHOUSE
299 E. BROWARD BLVD., 205-D
PORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA 33301
954 769-5568

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HE CCLKT: MiUas Of Cts Jury, gxO itccnlng. Be

nuv a
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awcad, plaaae.
wr. Kogan, you lode very d»Uc clan chia mnlng,

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envied «nch dega.

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Bedirect atamLnatien
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I'm 'varliij ny pj(p/ ehljft.

IC'eavd:?

training ehlit, actually.
HE CORT: All li^. Be eeated, plwae.

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' ttueege, you ese a«cn

yeacerday, air, you are lemlntel thaf. you an aclll xider each,
and you ay ciijuu imiune the wiOaa, FV. Itaaa.

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Mt. tOES: Thaik you.

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mugconoinca your nane. Qmd ntaning.

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ixm wmoaaaoi
ay Mi. >DES:
voider atvagge, lac a ts the firac tedv on

A. No. you aaUd it cerrectly.

GHSlfias
Difanaa BdUbit Nuiter is........

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Dafne Bdiibic NmOse 1 and 4

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Q. H« PKVIA (koif) cBi yjatCjui a nnter oC dUfannc
AaECloa. carrecc?
A. That le ccnect.

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Q. YOU iHacueaed yeacerday two of chon fxacciaaT

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A. yea.

34

Q.

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A. Thee la aznet.

]>f^ erhaneeaerc and oatgarlaai aalyaia?

1 0. OtMf. Another fuvtien that can be perfezned, la Inaga

1

3 manipulation, correct?

2 Q. a^. than you ham a bank aurmillanea paeco^eph, n)

3 A. Actually detecting loge nBilpulacim, yea, air.

3 you loxwktere a eamere la nuzed, let's say cn the tell ttae

4 0. All ci^. Another Antlcn that your dapBitmnc dsM la

4 the clock ia. and the itiege cfaac you are — chat ia dEilctad ia

S dKaecion eC inege nenlpulatlen. Tell the mdoa at the jury

S Wwte you are, your t^etmaz then haa the ablllcy to

S uhac that la.

S determine the size d chac mage, oorrecc?

7 A. Baaically. dececcioi cf unga manlpulaciai la a choco^

7 A.

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8 the Inege In audi --

Etalyela of Inegery to decexnane If m iaega la, ona. an

9 onglnal; s two, khether it haa hem altered in aoie «aqr.

It la poalbla at tinea to decenMne the ala cf ct^aecs In

9 Q. Of efejecca in the inege?

10 0. And the faurth firction chat t recall you cadklng atrar

10 A. Cbjeecs In the inege.

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U Q. Otay. The inege being the ptocognph?

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MiU you tall me tSwe chat teed la?

13 A. Hsuld that fce phetegramretry?
U Q. That's It. E^U chat for the bemflc of the oourc

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A. yea.
13 Q. Ckay. Md an object beiig eudi as a parsai?

14 c^eircar, please.
IS A. Recograaitecry ia MzUed p-h-o-t-o-g-r-a-eMix-t-r-y.

14 A. That la oorrecc.

16 0. Ctmf. Tell Che naibera of the Jury Mac ptmujiaaMUy is.

IS A.

17 A.

17 0. day. And you castifled that in this paitlnilar cms you

Rcccgraineciy ia the art ad adanoa of ettalnlng

la dlnanaiaiBl InfoniBClon Crcni mages.
19 Q. day. Msaeurmnes -20 A. yes.
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Q.

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15 Q. Ota/. Sudi aa the hei^ of a persenT
In me esses, yea.

la toz to eadi of the banks, ozrecc?
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Q. And you lodged at the caioas that ten uaad In eedi of the

31 banks?

23 Q. Broken doiai In cera that I oai tnderscsil,- la ChK fair Co
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33 A. ya, that's osxecc.
23 0. TO dKamina tM cypa of eanece it taa?
34 A. yea.

2S A. UMaihtmimri fron phoco^epha la anochar wey of putting it.

2S Q. And dKandna tfwc type of filter it hid?

A. yes.

 1 A. Y«6.
3 Q. And dKenAne dlsUncce with respect to «ta« the eanstaa

1 A. A TiwauEHiBiC device?
3 Q. A ruler.

3 wze in zelBCloi to thi aiw that voe pcztzqvd In tha vldK«7

3 A. No. lb. thn« are not. Ibt that I cm at least.

4 A. lb, 1 did not noin ii c mt/ dlacanoes.

4 0. day. cr a pencil to glw nlewBe te sale, osnet?

5 Q. Ycu cstnlnly oould haw nmniTml dlatnaa, aerract?

5 A. lb. there an cbjects in the aoaa that oould be laad tor
6 aeela.

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A. Yea, I oculd hat*.

7 Q. Md )«u oeuld hM than used thoae iinmiiuiuta to

7 0. But none of than taeasurataents tan takai; is thac luiblx.7

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8 A. That'S ozrect.

detcDBine, fs s«iple, tha hei^Kh of an indlvidal In an

9 0. So when -- and rrn juac going to pick the oa chat's oi cep

9 Inaga. oavaet?
10 A. Theatatleally.

10 ham. Thla la one of the enea we had fxon Kialak Bsik.

11 Q. Hell, I nam that'a «bat Ftetojianinuy la all ataut,

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12 Q. itm <m look A cbvenrenc'a Bdilhlt W-l-C, you'n not

uaiBLl?

A. deay.

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Y4B, It ia.

13 Bylng to pcreiay to the jury that this phcccgrMh, the cue cn

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I oai. and that'a ena of tie thli9 ttac you didr

14 the bottOD left, anl the me in the canter teccesu an of the

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It'a OM cf the thln^ we csi

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^ <b. dtM/.

15 aae nla. correct?
16 A. That la ocrrect.
17 Q. All ri^. Net to the scale of Che ehlit?

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yee.

you wan not aakad to do that in this eaaa, ecrract?

IB

That la comet.

18 A. YOU an pointing to the inege oi the far rl^ of that

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Oia/. Aa a n«tt«r of fact, you were asked to paitcaiB oily

19 dwrt; «d, no, they have not baan scaled Co be eactly one to

30 two of tbs four ftnctlm that your dqaitiiBit can parfem,

20 am.

21 ocejBct?

21 Q. d^. Me it yoir cestlnmy yeetentay thac you wen adad

23 A. That'a oortect.

22 CO dKerodM if you could Itecify tha artlelae wean or mxied

23 Q. day. Thne k* do — well, let ne bade kp. la thm a

23 by tha icCbar or rebben drlip the oouraa of Che rdbsies?

34 aeaauctaent devloa in

34 A. Yea.

of the ptstcgiaphB that haw bs*i

25 0. dc^. Yoi carrot acace thac the dafodant we the uilja

25 IflODikjced Into avldmsa?

1 In sy of the el^ ooubs; is that oomett

A. YH. sir.

2 A. That la correct.
3 Q. you camet ev It waa the ana nctter In «dl of the el#K

0. A dd jadBC?

4 cozKa, CEZiectr

Q. Mas iroduoeA

5 A. Ttac is ocerset.

A. YSa.

6 0. you camet say it la tha ana id

in aiy two ef the

7 el^ counts, oomet?

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Q.

You carrot aay it was not el^ dlffeimt rettea in —

10 rnuri^ differarc retbar for eadi dlffemK oomc. eemet?

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0- Ibching ox of the ocdlnBcy?
A. ifepa.

A. That la csiect.

9 Q.

A. That would be a itiiiernibli deaaiptlon.

A.

old Colorado brand jadoat?
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YOU oould go Into sy of the atom In the sea than you

A. tb, I «'t aay thK.

live and eeyba inn Imai me Ilka this?

Q. day. you talked yaatai'diy about the ddic. tfildi la

A. Soieching like that I'n «n.

aowemiBK'B Bdiltait 11. This diiit «sm ssnt to your

Q. di^. And you aaid chK thse van soae mil pinhdlaB at

A. YM15 Q. Oa/. Md a Mry KSy tag, «bldi l oculdi't find, that was

this a nafeni

An you calking Mouc Ilka tbse feathers Ilka

16 an to you, eearract?

A. YM. They wen caning cut. now they'n not.

17 A. That la oamet.

g. DO you have any devn plilowe at hone?

18 0. itiat alas was snt to you?

A. Ch, yes.

this were caning out?

19 A. I also noeived ths blaefc jadat that m dlaoMid

Q. D» you get this out cf

20 yestsRtay.

A. malng out at the asm.

21 Q. All nefs. Ths blade Jadcat. 1 left it ip han. chla itaa.

Q. dtay. dr aaietmse out of ths siddle cf the ptlloa, coo.

22 ibw. 1st Be seep you with the blade jadat ter a ettaBa, «d 1

rtdK7

23 wax to talk in

A. Uctls holas.

taraa that your profaaalml tarsa tor

pilloa at hors?

24 a ndnuta, so lat'a talk gaanlly Instead of Klaxlfloslly.

Q. So wtMti you wen calking yestad^' about sanechlng md

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Idacifylng cl aae characcenstics, disc you wan nelly calldip

YOU daacrlhad thla as a blade jadat?

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1 about «OB d3wi feathers ocrnlog ouc ot plnf»n in the jadaec?

1 Q.

2 A. cn that jadec, }«s.

2 A. tb, I do not.

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Q.

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blade in oolcr and has sesis at iteeevsr cUatanoee chose seals

4 A.

», I do noc.

an ^ait, >cu cai'C distinguldi this fian ary ocher that

5 Q.

ibn, in BOW but noc all of che picccgreptis Chat ycu ehoued

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mm

nede in Che soie cm of pcodaoClon; la Chat ceccect?

7 A.
B Q.
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But ocher chan s^'ing it's a nose ptoAioed jadcec chat Is

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0.

Co you reco^ze OovemnaA's Bdiibic 18 and 18-A?

Hat about 17 od 17-A?

to Che jury yescacdsy, there were fizeanre pzeaanc, eccrax?

that is oociecc.

7 A.

Yes.

Mi you can't evai cell If it's nede — if ycu had this

B Q.

Ml fizeams have class diaraccgnactes, oarxecc?

OTlocado jadac Cron cnia year, and last year, and Che ^^ar

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10 LefcBe. if they used Che sane paccecn ^ar aftex year, you

10 Q. Ybu have fizeBzm eaidnos at Che m. meet?

u wuldt'C Inaw che diffeemee beCMSen them based on class

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A.

Ttoc is conecc.

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diaraeteristies; is that carrecC?

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Q.

YOU have the use of, if ycu ntrilfrl chon, flzescm MRdnees

A.

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at XIF, Alcohol, Ttbamo sd Flzeeras?

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If they Mere neking than in the sene uey, it waildi'C be

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CO tell the diffeesnee becvaoi Chon, epcepc pxb^y

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at che nueroecepic level if yoj Mere locking at the individual

15 Q. Mi alCho#i ic a a diffecenc agoKY, ycu all do gee

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saens and Che Msy che scicdiss vers put in.

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Q.

17 A.

Fran cine co Cine.

IB Q.

Fton time Co tine.

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Ocay.

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HI. SIBIN:

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ED ycu xeoiTiize Owemrenc's Bdiiblt —
15.

HL lOB: ttere's che sCidor.
ev Mi. K>B:

21 0.

He're 9»ing to puc a sCidoer on this, but Bgenc Uxis says

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this is QawiiiaiC's Bddtoic 15.

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A.

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Q.

25 A.

dcay.
Oo you rsecgiire that icon?
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2

g.

Kiuld ycu agree that dec is a pasrl haille mii-a*onscle

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pistol?
Ym. I would.

Q.

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wuld cell pearl handle?

7 A.
8 Q.
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»Bybe fdie pearl, but fer our sinple purposes, thac we

YM.
Ocay.

20 A.

Yea.

21

Q.

anebedy ycu m gee m Che pbme od call od say, hey.

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Susie, toy, Bill, I got clue gm, can ycu call iw wttac kind

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this is, zl^7

24 A.

Yes.

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Are ^ a 9x1 fsi7

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N9. I'mnoc.

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But you ha\« ycuc ovn SBqarts there co

19 talk about fizcsniB, ci^7

Q.

A....

1 A.

4 A.

tegether acnecljiea if naed be, zl^7

ibw, that would be saiechlns, chac pearl hsxUe. ic

be seseching that would be distinguiahable to you by use

ri#ic?

2 A-

Riit caps, yee.

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niic caps, ck^r.

Q.

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5

Mm, khoi ycu get a knic cap Co examine, like yoi got
this diizt co exandiw, you tai t-eii this jury now chat ycu just

6 hane noc locked at those hats, 12-A ad B. tuc you have Iccked
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ac 11, bscauae ycu pm acne Cype of idsicifylng neck m ic.

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ccnecC?

9 A.

Ihac is coccecc.

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of ycur eelenclfic cedndegy to determine vhecher cr ncc It

10 Q. Ani chac is so chac Cod^, conorxow, dsnavo: you're adod.

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wM a particular item involved in me of chase cases, carreet?

11 ycu can say, yes, I've asei this lean; cr, no, I've neb seal

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A.

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If ycu <-niirt aee it, Che firearm, held by an individial in

one of Che yldeoci^es well enou#i co dlscii^iltfi these

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ehetaccsriscicB, yee.

IS

Q.

Ifi

]UR IUb you needtf cis ataixt, iJmew it is, ycu inuld need

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che flzearm co do che soic, conecc?

18

A.

19 0.

Ck^.

Ml in cedar fer you Co make chac decananacicn.

Hisc is cccrecc.
YOU reoeived -- did ycu receive, and this im'c a cridc

chac icon?

13 A.

Ihac's cccrecc.

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15 A.

Yee.

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Biporcarc fer purposes of decenidning color ad oonbzasc,

Is
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Q.

A.

Q.

wWa w OwAlSUL*

Evm in -- particularly in black end vAlce?

20 quescim, I went ycu to cpsn Che bag and lock at it carefully.

20 A.

tteolucely.

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YOU say ycu wait to the bteks?

hrmitsi I'm going co give ycu two, 12-A and B.

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23

Ml I wnc ycu CO cell ne rfsChST cr rcc ^ recogUse
Chose c«o icon?

24 A.

I do ncc iBcogiixe 12-A. oor do I remjiise 12-B.

25 Q. All n^.

So cfaec che jiays cImt, chose ace aki toes,

Q.

22 A.

Yes, 1 did.

23 0.

CD you lemaiber dat month it was?

24 A.

I believe ic

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Q. <3^.

wm

Ot 20017

Octets.

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X A.

3001.

3 Q.

Ita) >ou kR CO cte beets — «*U, no. lac m be

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phece^iph hecxeen dac's bad video <yialicy ad Wse'e attslca

2

amlldci

3 A.

4

I cat cell in thac ptoco that Chare ia a strong oaipcnanc

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of 11^ coning ficni cuCaide, the cloaer Co Che door.

S «6ac Che lawther ««a liha cr the day ct any of the cetfasrlaa

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look eloaely ac Use ptocesmph, you aee chec the floor ia a

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loc brl^Kar m Uie ri^, vtiich la clcaer co che exterior
td/dota.

Heve yai aver reealvad siy infccstlai co call you

chec you've iHasjsed hse vdch is?

7 A.

If ^

itae oily intaRBCloi calaclng co cbe wachar, particularly

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8

Che am condiciona. Use 1 received, if you you lanc to put it

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received. I accuelly decaemnad by lodelns ac Che inagM on Che

9 Cilaa is avBtdalnd by cha bi'ijtcjsaa d che sarall aom.

IC'a ao njdi brid*er chat che ^id patcam of che

10 videotape co eee any oucaide acenee co aee vfiecher Chare uere

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Itanina si che lefc, tdiidi ia clcaer •- ahieh ia nere inaids

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acroig atacbe. vfiieh «ould inUcaCe acicng amlidtC'

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Chs bsnk. Us limiting is leas scisg, because there's leas

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Q.

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diracc oucslde li^.

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g.

14

A.

Ckay.

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Ijsidei ia Use csrecc?

can you call tem chac piecuce «a«c che am ccndiciai la,

IS A.

DSC ia cDcrecc.
Wna wieh anlidb [ateua.. oorrecc?

I'ln going co aA you co -- sosuee ne juac a aecend, plaaae.
Let ne dov you Oowernient'a fidiibiic \S-3-L.

IS g.

Ckay.

And n you can sss chac grid of dies.

All of your ptoccs for oenparison purposes vara dss

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amli^t oendiUen ia?

18 g.

n

A.

17 A.

Wna vdch amlid<t preaac.

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n^te not sharp Saba but bcldA li#K.

18 g.

Ok^.

19 Q.

It ia etcher atrmg aunlighc a- licfc omrcaac, aasliq

day.

And you cannec rfpirrtre smlidK. correct?

19 A. tocually we )aue cia^csi liepicing. vhidi are laipe, acroog

So you oould call ebac nudi Ccoa looking aC Chia

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laipa, vhidi are used inside in labcraccry eecting co caoaata

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tto

md bn^toeae in acem eases of smli^d.

33 glaaa doer.

23 g.

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0-

Nell, m Che phetoyegha td»e auiStxya Inaida Che bsik,

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mry. Use's 16.

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lec'a uee for eaiple VB-8-S-H «d lode ac etda [toco ip ban,

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sa'a In 16.

35

Che iggnc left-hand eotnar, can you cell che diffaranea in ctaia

25 A.

eniMB . (%n»

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IS have blade aezapa.

I'va put befere you here QovmniisiC'a Bdtibic 15 — I'm
Vsc'e 15. ad chia ia 16.

two's

in 15.

TWO vaedsa in 15. and ss watdi in 16, che two tacdss in

in«t

die ia an Itonen Tblachlon vacdi.

The

1 A.

There appMrs to be a dark bend on Che ri^ wrist.
If you would have had Us cwo icsrrs in OoveuiiBiL's BddblC

ochB- one mly haa atperbridic — I'ai crying to wm —

2 g.

3

g.

3

HKbar IS. could you poeslbly have used chose co oenpaze co che

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anry afeeznom: <k> ^7

4

icaa St che right wise in this particular [tocagragto co see

2

Ku dm'C lon> Sitdi me of choae ^aa off at about 4i30

5

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Becauee one of Chan deea.

g.

9 A.

Lac ms ask you a tooad qjsacien about all of che ptocea

Hawe you s«r aasi choae tw icane befeas?

9 you'va aaan here.

I'm Crying co see ---

Coes OMcmBit's Bdtlbic 16 appear co you

hare?

A.

13 A.

I'm aura chat che govetnicnc will let you

the bag if

Ib, I dm'c aee any omits, sy idanclfyUg amcka Use ••

no. 1 ISMn'C eean any of cfaeee vecdsa.
Mt. IOCS:

Jla^. aay I aesil nss co Us wtcrsaB ao

ic'a eaaie^ co --

16

HE OSJC:

Suraly.

yea. air.

-nua ta Ocvenisnc'a MdUc VB-I-C.

Since OoveuiiHit's Bdtlblt 16 abaas a ailvv bended wist

13

wtoob, t wa net lacking for any allvmr brnded wiac wacebaa in

14

ai^ of che iKsgea, ao I cm'c call you if chse are aoy in cha

IS

iaages cr not.

16 0.

«kU, if you're Icckiig ac wrlacs and <4sc che rcttacs are

17 itoing, chan you would oertalnly haw paid accencicn co this

nr Ht. KMBS:

18 g.
19

day.

g.

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14

17

YM. Use would have basi passible.

8

you naed co. co tea a liccle becter?

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N3.

CO ba pfesail in any of che phocegrapha Use ace in evlitede

g.

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w&eh thac icanp

7 A.

10

10

13

6

is. ci#C?

7 A.
8

IQu ckn-c Inow Sddv ena ic

5 If they ace -- if they tsve ewi cuiiiui class dseaccaiacia

laCe-hMd

eiaisr ptocogreph la a parecn balding e gai in Ssc had?

18

Idnd of item, if Ic was preasie, ri^?

19 A.

UBre were — let me scats. I was locking ac cha left wiaC

20 A.

ihe left had.

30 of che Individual in this case, and --

21 Q.

ttac'B m Che left had?

21 g.

Mvmr cbe

33 A.

o> che left tsnd?

33 A.

X waa not p^lng accantion co Che ri^ wrlac.

33 g.

Cn the lefc kclac.

33 g.

Msn you taadfiad befere about how you decaradne

24 A.

‘Pare doesn't ^paar co ba anything cn the left aelac.

34

individual dsraccerl sties of a psmm. you calksd about class

39

Mac's St Us ngx snat?

25

dseaececlacica as being che -- wbat wee it — mee, Uiin, wtst

g.

wrisc?

 i

1 •lae?

1 A. Ch. Mil, yea. lb, let ne [xarauc that. I <ea trying to

2 A. nr ct» face; nsM. dUn.

of ct» nouch. iKcfila,

2 aM If cha am and handa had

diaclngil*ing nadca. audi aa

3 dnp4 of ttw «y«8, owall ah^ of the hasl.

3 tatcoca or ocher large clearly vlalble faacurea.

4 Q. Ckay. Oc of the thl/^ that you uould do fcr

4 g. And you nade no audi dacaimlnatlai; la ctac fair to aiy?

S Indlvidualizaclcn of Knacnt's hards, would be to look fer mf

9 A. NO.
S g. NO, you did not nate

• Upeclfli? ehwractariatia that «ould be uiiqje to a particular
7 pmoi'a bark, cecracc?

• A. Tbac rculd be cenaet.
9 g.
10 A.
U 0.
12 A,
13 Q.

A defcrnaty?
YW.
Arttarltla, a mLaaUig jolis -■
na.
.. miaslng digit, arythlng oC that nature, rl^T

audi -7 A. I did not find ay taaOBM that 1 could lae CD
8
iaHvidMd
in oa^ c£ tte
9
10 g. Ckay. Now, you and l puUad out cogeths- to^ W<2>It,
U oeerace?

u

A. ym.

13 g. And I told you chla Ma anths' pboco I aaa going to baM

14 A. yiaa.
19 Q. <lov- So lowdldi't •• you did not cndEt that type oC

14 you look at?
19 A. Yaa.

U aadnKlai with 't"’ to aiy ct ttaaee itaaa; la tbat fair to

IS g. Nat, in tUa

17 m/t
U A. locking Car mtaalng diglta, no, tbat mm not eaiachlng I

ptnco. *at'a on the late wlac?
17 A. Tta lefc Miac ^pjaaia to ha«a a elngla dale baxl oi ic.
la and aena type cC U*car obyacc cn the terri itaelf.
19 g. Ckay. YOU can't ei«i aay thac'a a watch; can you?

19 waa •• 1 did.
20 0. Bid you ocndjct aiy mnonatlcn to cry to dataimliia

30 A. Thac'a cccrect,

21 InUvliiial idsttlfylng dtaraccsiaUca fcr any of the

31 g. Ck^. Aa oppoeed to the phocegr^ I abswed you juR a

23 ptooto^rapha that you locked at «dch maperT to any of the alfpr

33 mUuce a^ Mere the bad wm o) Che right hand aod nothing waa

23 bank rctberlaa?
24 A. Oh, aa far aa the anna and hacda ^7

33 on the lefc had. cn Chla one thaw'a aqaathing oi the left

29 0. tm.

29 ri*c?

24 hard ad at laoec froa chla photo, m oi't aee eta rishc hand.

^____________
1 A. Ha can't see the rl^ hand in chat (hoco, thac'a rlpht.

1 A. Offhad I can't recall Mecher there are ay er chare are
I'd neal to go bade and lock Co aae if Chare are mv

2 Q. And that <aM fren the Qjuiaiue ank xdfeary, orrrarT?

3 noc ay.

3 A. That la Canweroe Bnk.

3 alcb holaa in cha na*.

4 Q. And the first oa «mb KlBlalO

4 g. Lac aa dor you

tew. dat do m haw In that ena?

A. ThMe la definitely a hole in cha area ct cha

rlp^

9 A. Yaa.

s

« Q. Ckay. lec'a go to VB-4-K. Wiidi la fzon Bnk of AtMTlea.

6 hare in cha ipper lafe.
7 g. Ckay. If you hai — If you had cha made wich cwo holM In
9 1C, whatever nurtxr it la --

7 A. Ck^.
8 g. tBw, fine of all, : «ant you to Icck at chla naak. Did
9 you ner aee mrf tiaak odth holaa in it?
10 A. Bvar?
U g. In thia oaa.
U A. tn thla eaaa, ! did not recelw aiy aads with holaa In it.

9 A. YM.
10 g. — could you uae thia tieak ad aake wa dacandnaclaa m

u

to dacher s noc it laCchM that aadd

13 A. YM, I oould.

13 g. I'^a gx to ba earatul MCh you, bx lec'a UAC omael^aa

13 g. tMe you adeed to do Ctat?

U CO thia oaa.
IS holaa in it?

U A. lb, I wee not.
19 g. I’m going co uae ay ceradnolcgy inacaad of youn, ckay.

IS A. Cnly In the vldeca did I aee tmele with holaa In Ch«n.

U A. O^.

17 g. Cl^. That particular phxegr^h, the oa In cha ifpar

17 Q.

li iwL'iBiil ULUiei < iM Ciuu Ua vUaja uluiu.7
19 A. Y«a.

U

20 g. And doaa it er doaa le net ^paar to haw tolaa In cha

30

21

31 too Icng?
23 A. X'ei nxy. did you aay oould I m did I?

in thia oaaa, you did not aea aiy na* with

23 A. In thia p»f
Inge, <xa would be hazd'iaaBeal to Me
33 If chare are sy holaa.

24 Q. Do you raeall if chare la a dlfftranc Kiaga «4Nra chare
2S ffllphc be holae in it?

ir^cin? flttMUxwmCs,

19 ttAuuaf a Bdtibic 1S-9-K?
ltd I dai'c MIX CO lae yois Cmb. hmaea cha woad'a

23 g. ttuld you.

be poeelhle to flake a iiaaaii'Biwir cn chec gtn.
24 A. IC
39 Mac would be naceaaary, would ba Co haM othac plccuraa bacear

 1 BtmiE9 Chtt

In order to identify Che neka wd ncdel bd

1 A. tfaeCher ycur ncuth ie epen. vAecher ycu point ^ur ncuth

2 chBC a xeeeMUuetlen of the acene could be portomd taldJig a

2 tdth It being cpoi in Che rigc direction coveada Che CBiera.

3 Blnilar neke «d ncdel to ttec «e^cn Into Che bank, and Chen

3 ifaeeher ycur ncuth ia close srugh co Che eanen co aee Chon,

4 ftqisially crying co poaluo) it.

4 and vAechei' cheie la ligx 93ing into ycur ncuch Chat refleeca

5
C

Kichout havuq chac infanetiai, taadng — one needa
CO tanw saccly «4«t« choc 9s ia in ads co aela an aeeurate

7 neaBuceaanc of ic.

e

itt lust nfcere it ia. but hoe it's

poBlciaad.

diffemces in the angle can greedy

9 affect Che iiuaumilil a
10 Q.

u

In ocher usde, aonbcdy tould have co 90 co Chla taller

window, to eatwt'a ruitaer two ac that bs9c, aid hold up a aeriaa

12 of gn at afacut chat heig« co note that daceminaciai?
13 A. fW the ncac accurate zeaulc, yes.

5 Chen bade cut oxo the video csiBca co leflaec Che ailrw
S fllUnge.
7

If ctcae ceech are close scugi to che fronc of ^ur

B RcuCh CO be eeen.
9 Q. All rlefx. cod you nocloe arvchlng like (ksical «crk in any
10 of Che phtcegrapha — In any of che videos chst ycu vaedwd.
U Isc alas chs phocugwphs Chat ace hsre in svidacs?

u
u

A.

I'm Sony, did I lock for --

14 Q. BIX ycu could aclll give is co a reeacniibil a dagee of

Q. Did ycu notice?
14 A. Did I nxlce in the vUeocepes — I dlcfa'c nocioe m/

15 Bciaicific earcaincy a nwatiirenent oi the langch of chac

15 fllUnga or siliar csech.

IS barrel, ccmcc, cm withajc the apeeifica?

16 0. ^ gald ceech?

17 A. IC vould be peaalWe co cnlnilarfr aore else, tax with an -

17 A. Or gald ceech.

IB but wieb — I dot'c Imw tfxc laxertaincy chat vculd have.

18 Q. Or any cype of tecal «Odc chec would indlvldUBliae a

19 Q. you're neaauring tiantalne cn uanx. you e*i oertalnly (fa

IB pereoi as che robber in aiy of chaae eaaas?

30 tida, rigx7

30 A. (tot in any of Che videoa.

Zt A.

21 Q. Mall, ycu're limcing ic. so lee ne -- (fa ycu need co

it'B poaalbla co rake a nBasuivBK of chec iwnim,. yes.

23 dew ip cn a video esnea?

23 tnaaden ycur answer?
23 A. As I --

24 A. It depMdi.

34 Q. Did ycu hsve anything besides vi(jeos?

25 Q. IC deptfa tpm?

35 A. axiy?

22 Q. All iigic.

1 have filling, cbeycre silver. Mil chey

1 Q. Did ycu hsve aiyching besidae yidsos?

1

2 A. I had Boie (fDCograpAa.

2 A. tfaC in ocarstica.

3 0. Ckey. They're noc in evldenoe. correct?

3 Q. day. YOU said yaacerday thla bag wa (ade by wry My,

4 A. m, I believe c«o ptocegr^to that depict Chs defxdwx are

4 naufaccuced by wry l^, n^?

5

in ewidenos.

Oot any esperciae in chia area?

S A.

I'R> not euce I aaid Chat ic waa irerwfaccured by wry My.

7 dirfa'C have ny bank phocogephs?

6 ic la a Wry lay bag.
7 g. J«e ycu aure you didi'C asy IC was (amfaccuied by Wry

6 A. There were no -- 1 did noc notice siy dsrxai veade oi che

8 My?

9 v«wiv tr**w«r (n wry nf i-h» vidww or rhe film from the Ctnmeroe

9 A.

6 Q. atay- MU. I'm calking about che bank phocogi^hs. ttu

If I

Chat it vaa nmfaccuiBd by Mary Kv< chan 1 laa

10 Bade.

10

In enor.

u

U

g. Ctay. Wve ycu aver hand of wry ny?

u
u

A. yea. 1 hsve.

U g. Ckay. Oi W-4-M. take a lock at chs ngx wise ares, ad
14 ceU ee if ycu aat aeneching chae?

u A. Wry Kay cosreclca.

15 A. yea. chare eppaaie co be a txigx band oi che rigx wrlac

15 g. ax ycur tzad. Md I (kzi'c neai thee in a aarc way, I'm

U of che indiviAiai -- of che bade ictXer.

IS juK saying, nochiiq ycu tnaw aiychiig atox emo^ chat yw

17 Q. Saiethlng ahlny like this?

17 loow chat it exiaca, rl^7

18 A.

18 A.

Q.

Bade rr**mr CT

12 A. Ms. taric itttme er bade idfaers.

IC looka a bit '■■w.'-. chai chat tzacslac.

g. Cbarecios?

I faiox chat there is e wry Kay atpcratlai.

19 Q. (2xd, Ckay.

19 g. you Imw tWre'B a Wry Kay (facpcraciai Chat aella

30 A. There also Is -- there sla> itpears to be a raised tacigx

30 ooaacics?

21 area oi chs tep aide.
22 Q. Did ycu gat any yaalcy at aU co coipwe?
23 A. tt>. 1 did noc.

31 A. yea..
22 g. you isEw chat wry ny .Taa pzanxioa ficni ciae co cloar?

24 Q. AU right, you ad t ace icw going to vadk dowi the road

33 A. yea.
34 g. DO you Imw if chia le a proicticnal bag or a bag chac la

25 at -■ ycu and I are gang co go (fawn che coed of ocaiscica.

36 vaad by tht pa^le that sail wry My prafact?

 1 A.
2

I can

Me with Rv eyw.

3 04

I ds noC Isow anything ^ouc thli big cutildi of

Ctay.

And

den'c krow how nav of these bage there eve,

n#K?

5 A.

That'a select.

1 distinguish sate begs ftori other b^.
2 g.

But not all?

3

A.

NOC all.

4

Q.

Ct^.

5

kind of nunber «dch reject to this, li^?

90 you cm't give us a thirty to the ei#Xh power

6 Q. And you dvi't koow hew nsoy of than wae ultijiKely

6 A.

HOC in this ease.

7 pn&nd, eonect?

7

Q.

a^.

8 A.

I tb not iaoM specific luitere. no.

8

Chat ON cm use to give indlvldial dwraeterlsclcs to a

9

Ckay.

9 peracn?

10
U

Q.

You said yMCer^, I believe, that there's no

Is a pauiiiiaait cbeek tame a facial deracceiiJUe

Eignlfleant individual characteristics about the Mary ray beg

10 A.

that you can use Co individjally identify it; is that cccraet?

11 me's dsde tenee, in general, is a class diacactefistlc.

NO, cheek ba:ea are a claea cbarscterlatlc.

Tbe qiallcy of

12

Ht. HOES;

13

HE COKTs Yee, air.

But you were ncc atile to uae these?

14

15 A.

Bcactly.

15

Ht. KWS: Thmkyou. Itachlng fucChar.
HE COST: Redirect.

16

Gkay.

16

12 A.
13

NB. I didn't say Otac.

There ace individual

dBcaccarlaclcs on this beg that can be tsed to identity it.

14 Q.

Q,

Itould ytu ■ - would it be your eptnioi that all bs^

17

imde In the sore tin as that beg. ssie ycoductlon nn as that

17

la

bag, would have the sate class characteristics as chat beg?

18

19 A.

yea.

20 Q.

Ckay.

19

Hi. IOE5: Ch, I'm Sony, Jtr^, there is.
THE aUH: Ckay,
Hi. iOCS: No, I don't have aiy ocher ^jaaelcns of
the wicnees.

Based ifcn the photegr^is that you haie — s the

20

•OmSc

21 videos that you have available fee you to use hse. would mv

21

HI. SISO):

22

tag In that asis nn be indistinguishable fiaii the baga

22

23

depicted oi the videos?

24

A.

25

1 (bi't think so.

l dai't thiiYc that any bag would be

indistinguishable, I think that it would be pceaible to

BY HI. SIGFIN:

24

Q.

25

amt tp to you, plus there vss thircy'-fi'n willteecer film, ae

2 A.

2

Q.

ct.

And you spent tiire extcactiig infamaticn from those

4 pbotegr^ba and doing the carparlsen analysis that you've
5

Hr. itacder Brue^, a Icc of bank surveillance filns were

TteedM 8eue~- - w>Mveet/lltwH«
1

That ia >

Oie Roimt, plaeee. %ur Ibor.

23

1 well?

3

sir.

HmTTWfT mWHfllCM

1097

««Jer Bps--------

could I have juec a minute, JUi^?

Ht. KMS:

cbjectldi. beyond Che scepe.

Tie CCUKT:

Sustained.

3

BY Hi. BISIN:

4

Q.

YOU were Mked igjesclais about Che jadec, ind I believe

5 you testified at aaie length aboic it.

described.

Is there arching abeut

6

the pboccgrefiB vbidi discingiish thoae pbocogr^be from chie

7 wxMng cn this case, if you can estiBBts it?

7

Jadiet. aa ducted in the berk idbecy surveillaKe

8 A.

8 photoeprapbe?

6

Anzooitecely hew irany nn hcucs harve ^ Voit

Mall, I )nv I ape£ weeks cn this <Bae.

9 tudred hours.
10
11

So at least a

Over two and-a-half weska, two and-a-haU full

9 A.

No, there' e nothing in choee pbocegr^bs chat shew

weeks, possibly as many aa two hwdred hours.

10

Q.

U

in the video fcoti Che bank idbery that are different fron that
jadKC.

And would it be fair to aay that this ia not the cnly case

differmiae on that jadec, any diarmceclstlcs of Che jacket

12

that you have wceked — or wes weeking during the tine period

12

13

that you were locking at these iieitsrials?

13

Q.

14

j^iec midi necch fmeutee in the bank aui\«illmee video of

15

Che jactaK wem by the ictber?

tad, in fact, you pointed oA mne of Che feabuzes of Chie

14 A.

Ttat is oceonct.

15

Q.

tbw, the def«e Iwyer adtad you tbecher or not you cm

16

tmeify M an spert aa to the person that «aa wearing the

16 A.

Yes, 1 did.

ahirt, and I believe your answer wculd he?

17

Q.

And with iwwto the kbry Kay hag, Qovetntent'a EMilbic

16

U, dldi't you identify individual diarmCerlstlcs of chat bag

17

18 A.

X'ni not sure I —

19

cm you identify the petson vbo was wearing the shirt in

20

Q.

the retberies?

21 A.
22

I uamx Idwtti^ the penm vbo tern nenrlrij tbe

ahirt in aadi robbery.

19 idildi ealwa it diffeimt than ocher Mry tay bega chat nny have
20 ooie off the aane aeaaibly line?
21 A.

yea. t did.

22 Q. And. in fact, lot aery dtffea.mt indlvldal ctarerrsTlstlcs

But cm you Bay abether <x not that diirc, Oouennent'a

23

were you able to idmcify Icoking at chac ediibdc, in

24

BchSbit — I believe it's 11, is the shirt that tea at sevm of

24

cenparism with Che bmk autvelllmoe pbocographs of a bag

25

the

25 being carried by Che icbfaer?

23 'Q.

retberias?

 A

1 A.

2 Q. Md eculd you roaud us of tfiac chcee four izdlvittBl

1 BY HI. BIEFIN:
2 Q. Kith la^ecC to Che tag In front

3

3

to BElve ac a [scbabllity as far ae the individol

4

daiaccerlscic that tculd abac?

4 A.
S

e

Thsie tame fair ^edfic daraccsrisclcs diK I noced.

The first Ota has the all^nap of the blade and silMer

•tripes froTi the bedt sick of Che beg vdCh the ad cf Che b^.

S A.

Che fact Chat cha ailver lines cn the inside line tp «dch the

6

7 blade lime on tha back side.
B
9

you. tss wee you able

Basically I'm dealing with a bdack er ittlce alcuaclat.

thia case, blade or ailver.

Either you're going to get the

7 blade line in as place m you're going to gat Che eilvar Um

Ite neenS *'*»■■■«<

w the

BIBS ac Che t^ at a silw line.

oi the

The third dtacsecariscie

8

in CISC plaoe.

9

I'm noc Ueuking etawi by fifty paioant of the black

10

Um or fifty pexcanc of cha ailwr line.

11 Md Che last characteristic «ee tha allwer line at the t«cy c^

U

it's either a blade line or a ailver line, tiiiedi ia a

12 of the back place.

u

filcy/fifey.

U 0.

Md did you coia cp «dch aiy izttebllitiaa ae to. again.

13

feature being blade cr silver.

tha odds or prcbablliciee chac thsea icais untilri Bpaar aoccly

14

•a they are cn chac bag in a lattm faahicD?

IS either be oi a ailver Um ae a black lim.

10 tas the wy aiedl elltar Um « the up

14
IS

16 A.

the beck piece.

YSb, I did.

hSMa tha ai^H <» a blade Una.

17

IB

chBaccecUClc.

IS

20
21

.Aoc pidc ma ficr ample.

Hell -IR. (CMS;

YCur ttxcr, I object.

•uffldaK basis aacabllahad.

There's noc a

He said he dcaat't toiw hm many

in particular, them silver ai^ en the and

aUver line.

Q. And, te ample, lac'a caM the fizsc itaa of IndMABl

I'm just Hying.

YCu got Ida os ctaaKs in tab of a Bscific

16

17

19 A.

In

cm

Thayr're on a

That eiiodnacae aU of Che other bags that vould

UiOMiae at the Cep, there's eithm a silver line at

19

Che C9 or there's a blade Um at the top.

20

fifty/fifey.

21

of Che beck, it's os in four.

Oa dianoe in tuo.

So with this, tha anpa and cha top of tha aide

22 tore made.

22

23

23

up, It'S OS in ei^; cue Uass cuo ciaaa do.

24

Che Blctae here having silver aliyung witb blade, the •Uvor's

TW (HRr:

21

suacained.

Mt. BUfflH:

29

UB 0019:

YCur WnOT, CDS —

Mich the ackUtioi of the bade ctf the bag ailver ac the
And cbai with

2S either going to align «dch blade, or the ailver's going to

So ahead, nou (paeciai.

1 the tnwi big that taa dsMi to you a fee mliuas ags?

1 all9a «dch silw.

2

Ht. lOG: Cbjacucn. Jut^. bayofd the scope.

3 clma CMD la cm In tlxun.

3

UB OXKr; eustalnad.

4 Q. lao cinaa ao tines tto tloea cho?

4 BC N(. 3IB1N:

5 A. Yes. ccriscc. 1\id to tha fourth pata.

5 Q. Did you in fact uaipste thoae ibccognpha tdth the fatoai

c

6 beg that kss aeiad cn 89Ch Terrace?

Ttat'4 amhK cm In tto diaioe. Ss Cao Unw Cio

a

Q. lao to tha feuRh pousr.

7

83 It is posaihle thsi to Alininste fifcsK out of

8

fca^ that toild be coning off Che Bscufaccurlng {zoceee

7 A. rmaecry?
8 Q. Qst you lock at da •• lac me do it this tay. On you lock
9 at Chme docognpha ad tell ne t4iK featuras you cbmrvs In

9 £toB t4)8tMr oorpeny rads ttme ba^
10 A. That iculd be the Iwoflmia. cmect.

10 Che bag

U Q. md did iQu. in fact, find these ssie four Asraeceriacim

U

Ht. ioe: ttjaction. be^id the seepe.

in the ptstognphe depicting the tetter carrying the asie beg?

12

TS COKT: BUBCAinad.

A. tte. YM. I did.

14 Q. NSW, you >«re aatied sore (paBtiens about this brost bag.

13 BY Wt. 9TEPIN:
14 Q. tat me dow you, with leapacc to the got Chet tas seised in

U ad it's your castlntny chac this uas new MUnictad

15 title ease, aotexmaic's SMtiUta S-G, E, ad F. These are

u
u

to the

in tha fttco^r^he?

16 lab bo you fer an epontnacioi; ia that ccciecc?

18 (ttcoB»pbi CroB the Bade (iticad retbsy?

17 A.

17 A. Yes.
IB 0. Md thoae ace fttco^tphe ^ nede fren the bank

1 doi'c iscsU aseljig it. and I cnilffa'c find ny InitUda

18 at the bag.
19 0. let ne aho« you ^wouiiaA'a UtibiCB 8-B ad 8-0, «8iidi

19

20 ace fxoB Che Uilot as9( icbbery. tbe, I realise you hsw'c

20 A. Yes, they are.
21 Q. MKe these plccuzea of a aufficienc giallcy, the rasolutiot

21 done Cbia befoee, but I'm going bo ask you to look at tbtea

f ilfiP

22 pbocogtaphs ad that just — if you're able to do thia, tell ne

22 and galicy of the plctucas, audt chat you eoild idaiclfy disc

21 if you're not •• lock at these (ttoogrscbe atd cell me if you

23 eypa of fireann that ia?
24 A. lb, I <xuld ICC idacity tBiac type of flxan that is tsM

24 can idercify aiy class

at the bq <*»p*»'»•»'< in

25 these thctn^^hs fzoi Udioi tak. ad unpte it vlSMlly tdCh

25 tbeae pictures.

 d

1 Q. M you 81c hse tota^,

a
)

fixosn

ycu aa/ tSMCbar or ooc tta

in chcee [toccgc^te ie oansiataac or

1 A. Osod teCDing.
3 Q.

Ace you [zeBteCly aiployed?

3 A. Yes, im'sn.

Ineonaiscsic with OMDimc's Bdiitalt IS?

4 A. HlthBuC having the cbjecte bade in the leb, nl ■ dm* CO

4 Q. By teorn are you «npleyed?

s
n

fully examlM clac gun to any han^un er arty pistol, ! vculd

S A. dcy of Miand COlioe DeparOmt.

rv«

(

/yf nmnl i tarsalaatHm hV\ar Khar rmwi im rw- 4 m

Q. ted in ifMt capacity ace you oiployed by tbe dcy of KUnd

7 not possibly the sane gm.

7 lOlloe Cq»rCBenc?

t

8 A.

Q. And it «oild be a estts ed tiyiiq to ditsmins iSisetMr U

9 1HM cBMlJUac or
Ul A.

10 A.

Ihic is asisLt.

U 0. Ifec that it is the gs) or It's not Che gui?

u
u

A. Thsc la ccczBcc.
m. SISTN:

Thet's all I hsv*.

14

ue aouH:

Thank you, sir, you

IS

Please call your nec

IS

1 wck in Che petrol divisian.

9 Q. So you ace a tatrol officer?

oooMJton?

W. HTDMll:

am tbn.

uLdcss.

ibur Hror, the gawiawnc cells tan

Yee, an'tel.
U 0. Haw long hate you besi a patrol officer?
12 A.

Rut and-a-half ^are.

13

And very briefly, «tac are your ze^xnaibiUtlaa aa a

Q.

U petrol ctfficec?
19 A.
16

1 pterol tbe atreete cf Little Haiti ngz now. ted I rate

am chat eriae is low, my oiasnal acsiviciet ate ooc gdng

17 Jlesnes, Officer Acne JiBBai.

17 cn wtchU) Che ecieecs.

U

mm, jnmm. samamra «OMa. aoii-

18

19

HB asSK:

19 Mitel?

20

Hill you please stsiCe your none and epell ^uc last

21

ycu ray cate your asec.

nm fer the reoced.

32

1W NTOBB:

33
34

»V

!• Vna JiBBOs, J>i-m-e^-*>t.

ni — »i

You aaid Little teici, I guess that's a certain area in

20 A.

fee, irs'arn.

21 Q.

Has your teriltcry dunged throu^xuc the years?

23 A.

YSe. n'sm.

23 Q.

Chey.

lit terra cf ce^tedlng to crlattnal ecclvlClee, d9

34 you foeuB la at a oercain type of alee er not?

Bf m. MTUSWI:

25 0*

Q.

25 A.

Osod wdny.

ms--------------

Miltlple adsee.

ml---------

1 Q. isiltiple CTiras.

1 Mhte you nete leapenees?

3

3 A.

Gvteds at Che type cf cell, the nacm cf the call.

%

QCiy.

ted teac type of crises d» you iiMsci^ca?

3 A.

tecoecira, txaglaclas, rcCfeariea, theft.

Q.

UUi )MeU

a

lAi UttV nil UBlK.f

4 Q. Useecing your atcmoi to ee er abas Jnary 30th, 3001,

4 A. YSa, ra'SB.

S do you xsesU dec arse you usn waijisd, to chat ^y?

9 Q. Chay. ted ttai tes that i^xrt trlccen?

6 A. Yes, I «Bs HCEking the tedel aey area.

S A. Oi January 30ch, 2001.

7 Q. The what dcy area?

7 Q. The stee day that you reapnndad to this xeaidtece?

8 A. Hsdil acy.

8 A. Yaa, m'tei.
9 0. Kw, (fc> you teenU tfiac tin you got to cha rasldenoe?

9 Q. ted did you reapaid to a burglary accaipe on chat d^
10 A.

10 A. AC 3:27.

see. 1 did.

11 0. And did you reapod » ISeo it*these S9eb TCrxeoe, MM,

U g.

U tha aftarrrxii?

13

13 A.

Yas, ra’ea.

ncrlde?

13 A.
M

IS A.
IS

Thac's oonect.

Q. Md hotf is it chat you want to this loratioi?
Our diafaedar diepatdiad ra Co the tall, a burglary at

I got dlapetcbed 4:27, arrlted at 4iS0.

M

Q.

4:50,

15

A.

Yea.

S9Ch Ttaxace, ccrrecUen.

16

cold you to gs there baslcelly?

17

1540 ttarthast S9Ch Street.

I'a aercy. it's gilig to ba 4:27, ccnecUai.

13

tan CO flte in the aftemcon?
Y«B.
tv.

«UUk

uvy 4

17 0.

89 your

18 A.

That'S meet.

19 Q.

ted yoi HteC there?

19 Q.

I'm Mowing you Oateiiwent'e Bdablt 10>A.

We. ra'aii.

20 A.

That'S Che heuaa 1 leaponded to.

a

Q. (key. ted <b you hate — t nwD, 1 teow this eae alnoec

31 0.

This ie Che hoae you leapcnded to on chat *y?

32

three years age, a little lees thsi tteee years ago. but d9 you

23 A.

YSa, m'tei.

a

hate an independent recollectiai of this leeponse?

23

24

A. ns, ra'dii.

34 A.

30 A-

35 Q. Omy.

la it your [zaccics ted preosdure to teite a r^est

HE GCUfT:

Yea, ra'tei.

18 aY»6. MTinWl:

Q. idtac did you d9 idMn you gx there?
I nede crrcact with Che vlccin. nr. t430wich. HLlbst.

25 Q. tbw le it Chet you note ciancaet lACh tbe viceiae

 4

1 A.

He «M o,iC«1de tic Inrarim.

1 0. And «Aac KM cha victim’s nene?

2 Q.

tad you bA hifli to Identify hlnMlt?

2 A.

Wltaarc KMrelch.

3 A.

na. Rc'em.

3

Q.

dcay.

4

A.

He tsa an ackilc.

4

Q. Anl how did you <b tlct?

Old you note tAacher he vae m adilc or a jweoUa?

S A.

He produced ID to ne.

5 Q.

And did you note his ima and sm?

6

cad you «clte daw Che infoatction pertedning to hie

6 A.

Yes, aa'sn.

7 Q.

And did you note Us <tace of Uitb elaA age?

8 A.

laca of birch

9 n

nrota

Q.

7

•

A.

Yhe, BB'an.

Den «ae a diftewse In the adkeee «4k« he

He nee a btaefc Bale.

U

mpaxled to, he ncsicly nowd - - had podceed chat tnce oxl

10 Urcb «ea 9/17/58?

u
u

ocN«d Chen.

11

Q.

12

Chey.

HM, lac ee gee chia eczel^.

He {xedeed te you

ms

9/n/se.

T

A.

YBa, BB'm.

Q.

Cicey.

l cfcxi'c recall cha aga.

a11

irarh

him /%if» nf

Did you aek Um aAcuc his oocnation?

•ABC -- a ncrida ihdver'a lioerce?

13 A.

I dsn'C recall.

A.

A Florlde drl\w'a Ucece with a dlffetcic addnaa on the

14

Q.

(Ms/’

15

llcmee. cxi acated thee he ceoencly pjKhBaed that hsuee, nd

15

nr. w»relch'a oeapeticn?

U

ehac'a «Aen he llNca ac

IS A.

lb, na'an.

MOdi houae -- the 1540?

17 Q.

M tea cilia the first thing chat you did. taa idancify the

1540 MKlweat 69th Toctace.

U vlcciJB ot

Ooy.

20 (>Dvl(4 to you?

19 A.
20 Q.

21 A.

31

13
14

17 Q.
U A.
19 Q.

now.

And tAac Idscifyliq Infotnatlen did the deCandanc

DC only Idencitleaclrn he latvlrtad to n tea a Flcadde

!• charo siythiii^ fiUad in on )Ojt tapott n^idlng

tju#

YBa. na'an.
O’mf.

Aftar you identified n-. ntteich, did you calk t4ch

MbO

22

driver* a licenae.

22 A.

YBa, BB'ani

23

Q.

23 Q.

And «AK did ha «y?

34

oorxeec?

24 A.

I aalad him tAat happened.

25 Q.

Md tSwc did he aay?

25 A.

Ckey.

Aod en your tepoct. you noted the vlccica icaa.

DaC'B CCEZBCC.

______
1 A.
2

Ha nceived a plrre call fion hie alam cenpery aeaclng

thac hie houae, the alazm waa going off.

1

BitacBd the gate, rl^ by the ±ac.

2 0.

And ha re^endad

ns this nnechlng chat you would — you bad bam

3

Imadlacely to his haae, 1540 (tacluaac S9th lezzaee.

3 patrolling --

4

Q.

4

Ck^.

la this nel^Ashood the neigYxrhccd chat you ware

S A. And be ctaeived o>o black nalaa nmlng to the rear at the

5 aaeigsd to?

6

7 police.

S A.
7 Q.

And are you faAUsr tdeh the neieptcaHaid?

•

8 A.

YBa, aa'an.

9 Q.

Is thK methlng thet'a nonal in thac nei^Aoehood?

loeacloi jinping the gate, and that's •Am he ml led cha

Q. And <Am you gx chare, «Aac did you cAasn?

9 A.
10
11

I Bade ooxact with the victim, he ehowed ue the tteytcll on

14

ne'am.

the aide Crare door -- on the elds fxaie inalde his tnae tee

10 A.

NO, rra'an.

datiegad, the teed dxr tas alas dengad, md the AC vmc tea

U Q.

I ballBMe -- just daMlng bade to fill in me blsnls.

12 danegad.
13

ybb.

0-

ihac's tAat he eheted ue inalde the iBtae.

And did he cell chat chat tea as a result cf this butglary.

this Ixmk-ln?

13

•Am you said thac he cold you, lb. Hdttelch cold you that he

13

Isd }uec aoved to 1540 Hactliaet 69ch TBiace, did he tall you

14

how Icng he had bam theca at that polnc?

15 A.

lb, Ba'cin.

IS 0. And you •xoca that ds«i ai your c^eax?

IS

Ckay.

17 A.

Yes, na'am.

17 A.

YBa. BB'am.

IB

I kelieve tlct you - - befere. }uat a (e. ndnutee ago, you

18 Q.

And waa It fianldsd?

IS A.

Q.

Yee, na'an.

Old you go inaida the houae, chou^?

19 A.

YBa, Bi'sa.

edUtioi CO the r^cn, you kind of istsiUei this Iccicknc,

20 0-

Did It .fTw»r to you to be lived in?

eeascecc?

a

YBa, na'an.

19

had testified thee you hate m Indqmdmc recollectIcn.

20
21

22 A.
23 Q.
24

0.

In

MB, BB'BI.

A.
23 Q.

Me there eonechlng afcotx the houee thac you had -- tea

33

distinctive to you chat acood out?

25 A.

YSa, oa'an.

Hi had a aecurlCy <Miaie in the time aa you

la there ac^thing that you isisUei dlscincclv* about Che

inalde of the house?

34 A. is aom aa you talk in, the hoae tea fuoilshad.
35 ri^ aide tisxe tas a kicdsn.

Oi the

Aa you talk dOMt cha hallviV'

 1 thn'9 4 bthi'ocm en the ri#C-banl alOe. ad Chai thse's a
3
}

CO cha laft-tard aids.
Q. Md a^ln, I kn» this taa alnaat ttaaa yaara 49a. a^tldog

1 A. Ma. na'ea.
3 Q. 80 by tha UM you left the houae, cha npcac hal bMO
3 gnplated?

4 alae you laiaiLai atmc cha lislcte at tha tnaa?

4 A. yea, ne'an.

S A. M>.

5 Q. Ckay. Aid dac did you do wtch that c^ort?

<

$

Q. After la. MAeltA izwlded ycu tte Infonatlcn absut the

A.

I tuiiad it In to ny sicscviseir.

7 Blda mbU -- Bide txwm Aymll ad the toad door ad the K

7

MB. WOWai Mur ttxxr, nay 1 haw a euwiA?

a

8

DC OaiRIi yee, ae'ae.

vant. that thsa Ma dmge to all thoae three, (uieuL7

9 A. Ma, Da'ae.
10 0,
Itia did you <to?

9 By i«. Mnmos
10 0. Hot, do you have the xqort to trad of you?

u A. I aatad hUn «a there arvthisg oualog. He etaud that

U A. Ym, RB'an.
13 Q. day. le that the c^xxc ctac ycu oaipleced?

13 nechlog «aa iriaalng at the cine.
13 Q. Aid then i4iBt
14 A,

I

after that?

a brief deealptien of the Indlvldiala that he

U A. yee. ira'am.
14 Q. I'd ssk you to tske a irbeoC to lock at It.

IS efeaarMd nmijng, ad he also stated ttac thay laft their bikea

15

U ac the acaie.

IS report.- in ochar vorde. hae aiqtedy aUad aythtug to It Chac

n
u

Q. Old you see those bitae?

17 taai'c dat you had ctnpiwwl?

A. Vea, ea'am.

11 A. Ho. ae’an. Ho.
19 Q. Ckay.
30
MS. Mnswii ycur Racr, He eould flow Cha report

19 Q. Old you oaifiscate theno
30 A. !b, na'an. ha raftaad to glia the bUw.
31 Q. Mere they later cmfiacate^
33 A. yea. vaB.
33 Q. And dac did you da «dtb your r^ect?
34

Mete you tcltiog the report m you «Ke taUag the

3S iiiftaiaaian trcn lar. itdOeith?

1

nrmm wwtMrmfwttM

IBM Chare ben ay Jaijea or altarecioa to the

21 into evldnca.
33
Ht. KSB: <ti)ecciaa. .Ak^e.
33

DC aXKT: SuBCaiiad.

34

>C. Kmwa: » fiECher ^aaclona.

35

DC OStHT: Qxea-ecanua.

1 Q. Mac ^paarawe?

3 Q. nr. moelth Mid be taa Uvlng chm pvt cf the yeer?

3 A. yea.
3 Q. 8o ia ^w you -- he filled in eery daacrlpciw pertloi of

4 A. 1 don't reeell.

4 your repert that you adeed £s. ochar chai dachar or noc the

S Q. MU, lock at your nnber ei^, your aiiaMtlan nuiber

5 peraoa nae ri^ or left haded, ad chair ^aach. airi«:7,7

<

S

3

■r HL foas>

el^it isder —

He gave you infanation that alloMd you Co fUl in

7 A. Oov- yea.

7 ycur i^jLst CO aU thoae chin^

8 Q. Afd he eald he «culd proaeoxe?

5 A. yee.
9 Q. He did noc llmic your Bewamc chio^ Che hcuee?

9 A. yea.
10 0. M let ycu into the hxae?

10

A.

»■

11 A. yee.
13 Q. M let you lock aioud?

U Q. He did not tell you that you oould not ^ Inco ery of tha

U A. yee.
14 Q. Hi dnad you dace they eene to the fcoK door?

13 A. H).
U Q. CD you know if a^oa ves ^prdarded, amaead in CUa

IS A. Me.
IS Q. M dLsed you dme ch^ had canaadad Cha houaa?

IS A. Ho, ICC ctac dv< noc CO ly dodaC^a.

17 A. Ma.
18 9. Ooy. He cold you chic oa o< the paopla tad ehert hair?

13 xcora?

15 <aae7
17 0. MU, do you know if euaecne «aa arxeacad aether dy?
15 A. M.
19 Q. Ckay. Here you the ne that can bade ad 90c Cha blkaa?

19 A.. yea.
30 Q. cmdlodia?

30 A. », it vaa aether offleer.

31 A. M. Ch, yea.
23 Q. Oaan daven?
23 A. yea.

31 Q. Mr* ycu nuMiii?
33 A. lb.
33 Q. 0^. CD you )ocw dac hob <faa idch Cha bikea?

34 Q. MdllBl hi<T/4>

34 A.

3S A. Yha.

35 Q. Ooy. CD you )o» if ay foUow-1.9 taa

I baliava ch^ ware turned In to our preparty isdt.
done to find

 •

IM.I

b

1 «4b OMMd tllB bUoB. to datomlne i4d had tEiiiai liCO tbo

a

tBU«7

3

A.

». 1 doi't.

4

Ht. lOES;

S

16. KTinwi:

6

116 oaSTi

7
g

IhHk )CU.

U
13
U

I rat^end to ewythlng.

6 Q.

Are you analgned to a particular nel^detdioed?

noM* call your nsc wta—.

7 A.

I'm MMljMd to Liberty Qty.

16. HTIDMas

8 Q. And «eze you ¥nljai1 to Liberty City In BajMiLa at 2000?

Ttmti you, m'an, you nay aup dMi.

I'n ■ociy, Ycur ibEr.

9» yiiiniw*.

9 A.

rm, I MB.

006 awn, 'WiT’8 kebbo. anao.
BB OBOC; Wu nay take a aeat. pleaae.

10 0- Dlnccing your attsmion to DacMibar 14th, 2000, did you

Mill you pleaae etace your naie ad 6>all yoff laat

13 A.

u
13

nane £ar tke reccri.

14

And «4Bt are your mfi~mlli11lrlrnT

5 A.

tb ftsUBT <faBClaa.

9 ■ould call CCCicar Saipaon. tha KLoid Mioa capartnaoc.

10

1 Q.

3 A. ikwcine petrel.
3 Q. la then a oercaln type ed inddtnc er erine that you
4 reapqd to. cr do you i^eaprd to aiythlng wA awythlng?

B6 MTDBS!

ay naie la Gary Saipaeo.

laat nane la

15
16

yaa, l did.

Q. la that in Llbarcy Qcy?

14

A. yaa, it Is.
15 0. And lEH la It t)Mt you erne to tttfoil to 1540 Hytliwic
16

opas ■BasMOSM

napod to a burglary at 1540 tUUiaaL 69th Tarcaoa?

69tblMxaoa?

17 BY 16. Knma:
16 Q. ttad Bcanlng. An you paaaaEly oiplayad?

17 A.

19 A.

YM, I an.

19

30

And by vtan an you aiploywB

20 A.

YM.

By the Clcy ot WatiU Aaltce Departngt.

31

Chay.

In «Aac eepadcy an you ao eiplo^d?

22

I‘a a folioe efflear.

22 A.

Q.

31 A.
22

Q.

33 A.

51

34
35

3

BB OU6:

yea, ea'aa.

BT «. KIBWIl!

4 0.

Chen, acd you «eie to Invaatigaca it?

Q.

And did you, in fact, gs to 1540 Mpccliaac 69th

yea. I did.

ft

m

1

16. Mmoo: lor Manor, nay 1 amoedi.

a

So aarebo^ cold you chat auiaUilng «Ma ffilng m

^

35 A. Tea. I did.

A. Kw yaan.

1

t MM diapatched-

18 Q.

NOV, tide «aa — lac'e eae, it's EBcaito- 3003.

a» tMa

BE muCT; yea. na'an.

3

BY 16. KIBWII:

3

Q.

4

Os tra noura tbac you xv^moKl to cd Ebcvost l4tA« 2000?

Bouing you Qmdrbk'b Bdlibic 10-A.

ta that a picnaa

S

MM a little Mr tuo yaaia ago?

5 A.

6

A. yae.

6 0. laU ue diac happanM the Cim tine you hmk to that houaa

7

Q.

7 en Chat d^

8

my

9 A.
10 Q.

Oay. Aa you alt hse tcd^, db you hM 6) IndipandB*
ge

§

zi^xniing co this houM?

raxx« era

9

AUttIcUt.
A little Ut, Ok^r.

11

A*

YH.

And I think you teetlftad that you taote a npxc

lmih. luiu

txeak-in.

i lu^iaiuju^ i wv <iIihhn jwi

Men I ami«d. no

om

10

X tedc a quldc dack ot Che pransee, ad I cbesvad CtuK

U

the — Chen «bs a traak in the rear wlndw.

13

Ctsou^ Chat rear tdixtoiif?

13
U A.

wa.

14 Q. And «MB that zqnt vrlttan oi Che eane diy aa your

14 A.

ib.

IS

IS Q.

And did you go into the houaa Chat fine cim you

reapnaa?

U A.

n

16

YBa.

Q. Ml It eentadned all Che InfeariBtiai aa you knan it Chen?

18 A.

y«a.

19 Q. 80 da you recall about iOmc cine you

00 1540 MxctMac

20

tb. I didl'c.

18 0-

Ibw did you know then

MU, I rgB?**** Ohara Moe. Ibe Cine tin 1 reBW*»^t

1 lAii c. muu

cih

Lira

ujm.

i

MS era rauuu

imb

nebody «aa hoia?

AU HJ i 1 ly AJBHIVJj

tb.

44

tin I reMondad. i raEpertM at 8:25 p.m.

22

24

Q.

34

2S

y.

31 A.

23

Starting vdth the —

BMn waa nebs^ horn.

19 A. 1 lotteked cn cha door.
3D

21 A.

nB’ox^Bd?

17 A.

A.

2S y.

YM.
*n^ cuo yoiA 90 taoc um

a bscoiq

«

aM»i'ed the dtor.

ura?

 inn

1 A. I xv^mled tadc tOe uujiii3 tioe Irmf cl* viccl* ws
i bOBS.

3 Q. dmy.

1 A. laac nam la golzg CO ba HdOdch (ale), Nllbacc.

3 Q. NbU, t» tUd you loo> chac?
4 A. Bcniae Chey call again and I «oa dU^ecelNd a^ln.

3 A. YM.
4 Q. So WRmlcb. muserc?

S Q. So cl*

5 A. Yha.
S 0. day. And tec kind of IdoKlfylng Infoimcim did you gee

Cold yoi CO ^ hade co chla placa?

<

A. 'ttm.
7 Q. day. Md «l*c tin* did you gac chm cl* woaid cia*7

«

7 CzoaNr. Nsmcti?
S A.

A. AC 9:35 p.m.

9 0. And vt*c did you eta «4n you aertved ac cl*c houaaT
10 A.

la chac H-c-K>r^l>C'h?

I gx hia fizBC nam, laac nm. chac 1* «a* an adblc. hla

9 race and hla tee of bizCh and hia ateaea.
10 Q. And tec UBB his race and aoc?

I node oosacc tdth the vlcciai-

11 Q. ItMC* DM Cl* Vleclfio

u

u

12 of '58.

A. AC ham.

A. Ha'a going co be oi adilc blade nala, and he aaa been 9/17

13 0. Ma he inaide hia ham. o>a:a1da Wa ham?

U Q. dmy. And tec toe Ida adteaaT

U A.

u

Kal^.

A.

1540 IBrctianc 69ch Taczaca. Maid.

IS Q. dcay. So you «anc «4> and imodNd «B d* tec?

IS 0. And. ty Che »ey. ten yeu'ra teoi idiair.ificaclm, la 1C

u

IS your yaau.ioe to imlm aura chac cl* plccure en the

A. Mb.

17

17 idoicificaciai imedsB cha yoiaai teae in ficte of you?

u A. yaa.
19 Q4 CMy* MO wtn tnftC pecBSi zwpoaa, vrac wa you <S7
30 A. Mac I ncenally da, la U» I’m doing any cypa of rapccc, I

19 A. Yaa. ic Is.
20 A. AC cha cio», he cold me ha i*a aelf-oiplcyed.

21 adc ter Idtnclflcacion. And I adi fer aom cype c< -• I adc

31 Q. di^. Did you Choi, afcar Idencifylng M. Httaich, did

23 alMC had lMtm*l. and chey ogilaln.

33 ym Choi calm dan iahonmcim caracnlng the inddte?

23

24 cypa of Idancifioecioi. ad I aCaitad ey z^oR.

33 A. Yte.
M

3S Q. day. And tiio waa the viceln?

25 A. BMlcally, he cold ne chac he iacun*d hm od be

And Wan 1 90c raady co ita cl* i^xaL, I adc for am

M----------------fW

AM maaddcl

49

. ..........

^ 1 *>1

1 diamvmad chac aom vnlm»n peraa* had oKecad hla horn

1 yoi iwailai atnr ct* inaide of Cha houaa?

3 Clroi^ Che rear wiictow. and had tatai aom icom chac are —

2 A. Hoc xaally.

3 ad Che Itom axe Lijcad on ay rapccc.

3 Q. Did you lode in ay elOMCa or oychlng Ilia chac?

4 Q. so ten he cold you chac paeple had aracad hla hem

4 A. No.

S Chcou^ Che rear wlntow. me chat Ct* aane dndw Chat you had

S Q. Afcar nxzeith. M. MdOaieh, Idanclflad tec had beoi

«

S Cahoi fzon hla ham. tec did ^ d3?

obm'od aacUer chat diy?

7 A. Yaa.

7 A.

•

S com CO Che hooe, you lam, co aaa If they could ^ ay

Q. dmy. And he told you Clwc parpla had tdeoi icom fzon hla

I flnlatod ny repcirc, I had - - I dUpaCdwd Odim Soo* to

9 fli9zpBinC8 refmeu the bedon winte. Ulm I aay, I }uac

9 hm?
ID A. vaa.
11 Q. Itwc MB caAan. od d*C toe cl* ^olue of tf*c «bb tdmn?

10 tlnited ny repeat and left.

13 A.

13 thio?

12

oi ay r^ect la a* OUD play«r, vdue of Chraa
«nd Clfcy daUara.

Stxy icmo. four luidrtd

u
12

0. day. DO you lam techer 0^X1^ «aa ear arxeacad te

At
fiiia

IS

Melve paiza of antoia. alx Ivnted doUata.

N[).

MLS' 1 UJiSl IJi l(y I^UtLf Cfv t^lAL mAMM uo
»/> •

teiH h* flUfM it twm tfmitw

IS Q. day. So I g*ea aa ct* poUea officer you're Him cl*

IS MaeaUa*aua elochlng icom valued ac 0« chaaod Clsaa

IS fine one en the aco*. you calm dm Cha Inteanacim. than le

17 luM*d telara. An AdsT phene, oell pla*, alwy doUaca.

17 gacB •• In Ct* iwnml oeuraa of pcacclOB. ic geca ecanatenad
U

30 Q. am/, ita; you van caking dean Chla intacnaciai, «Ka you

19 A. YBa.
30 0. I lam M. KAelch Cold yw clue hla ocinpiatlcn vaa aalf.

21

21 ita you i*i*iLeL techm you ated or ha alabacacad occa en tec

19 *aa flfcy doUaca.
inaida cl* hsuae or oucaida Ct* houae?

23 A. I ballm* 1 MB aralda efaa houae.
23 Q. di^. Did you ewr ^ Inaidi cl* tn*a?
34 A. yaa. 1 did.

23 I* did for a living?
23 A. NO.

35 Q. Again 1 loot iC'a baan a coM* of yean, la Oan oyctibg

25

34 Q. day. Aa you sic hse cote'

te'C loiadm acq«tilng

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91

1

1 A. Ho.
3 Q. Mw )cu been bedc to Chet house; hM you had an/ Curther

1 JtMeii?

3 ccntact idch Mr. Mttelch at that house after this chce?

3 Q. MU. but Tin juat aayiiB. he dLdi't atop you fna doing

4 A. lb.
S Q. ISium diqatdad a^ln?

4 aivchlng «dch isapeec to yow iiiiieai Ija liii,
S A. tt>.
6 Q. Ovy. And Oiae Bone laa esUad out?

6 A. lb.
7
le. Ntnm: Wur Wnr. Bvy i hm a imjm.?

•
$

9 A. lb, 1 MEi't en ecene.

OB OSURT: QrOSS SIMBIinS.
HI. lacs:

U

u

7 A. Yes.
8 Q. Mrs you Chare vtan they cans?

lb fuEths rjiTime

10

2 A, Ho, I uoultb'C do chat.

If I could have juat a odiMCe. Ai^.
opfs ■amijaai

BT Mt. USES:

10

Mi. H3CB: Ihat'a aU I have. iMc yni, ycur itnor.

U

HB axKi: M. Ssipaon, thank you. you a^ oens dean.

12

Kur natt witness, please.

13

as. MTSSMI: your Hiu.

«e have - - is it

14 «nt thse. CEczecc?
IS A. lb.

u POHlblA ~ '
IS

SB COKT: No.

U Q. Oay'. Me this Mca the only tine that ^ rw^xmbil to a

16

IB. Kisma: CMy. could l have a ndnute.

17 tauislary at Chat particular raeidanoe?

17

your Hzer, Uiltad Scaces rests.

u A. VM.
u Q. Did M. KSkelch allOM you In tha bouse?

u

na aXRT: Mitsia of the Airy, you've now laard aU

30 A. yes.
21 Q. Did bs restncc your aowasK Inside tbs tabs in aaiy tay?

30 fltacae.

23

33 plsass reaarve aiy notions Midi he ni^ In* to seta ac ttaa

23 Q. MU. you dcn'c laiailjai hua listing you out of any tooie?

33 oscluaiai of the gouenmnc's caae in dOef viKil tha nomlng

34 A. NO.

24 lecaae.

25 Q. you don't ranenter Wai telling you net to look in any

3S

19 ttaa svidBies and casciany in this case on trial f of the Uiicad
31

AC this Cine, tia 0du% wUI aMc Che daferdwa: to

And ycu imy paoeeed cn bBalf of Hr. HdOeicta,

1 M. HOhBS.
3
Ml. Kses: lhartc you. iiu Honor.

1

Jlr^, ray wa appttseh tha aidabar, pleaaa?

3

ns axKT: y«e, sir.

3

3

ytur Honor, based

4

the RDClon asde yester^

4

the presence ot the jisy. t Mould sm to incrtrtwe

Hi. me:

S MdUc is.

S Mho t stood

S

6

TIB 03UIT: BbiJoit IS te the defense is received in

*!■ ■ ■

u

Owfc4M»

1C MMM ^m«4m4

4n

evidsEe].

10

Mute, veur tbra, ay

7 na. la chare ay need to prooaad.

7 wliMbs.

»

I reoencly wt throu^ a 22SS hearing

ad said befere

Ml. me: Md, Ybur tti«, based ipn ecipulstlm
tdch the ^vemmt, I vould rom to Incxodse the bade leeerds

8

And I said. no. sic. *»>«» there vaai'C, hwraae 1

9 tad Md a oonveraatioi.

I )ubc - 1 tpn about a> hour cn tha

10 wltnaas stand -UBOSURT: 1 iDowitee you're 9>ln9 and MS'U -U

13 of Hubert R. Htteith. Oov«cnMC'a BdilUt Mnber 4, fxon

13

Hi. lOBB:

I wv'id to hatM Chet mUajy occur before

13 dey IW Irmi Baek in NianL. Florida, fer. the period of
14 mxuaiy 28th to MrA 3lac, this would be 1999, and also —

13 1 amnsKe 1 reec.
nBcnKT:
14

I adetacad. AU n#K. sovs'Ucalaa

IS

IS raceaa, ad that I'U hear your brief neclaa. ad 1 wlU

net's Hnber 4. BdUblC Mnber 3 aould be the tadc

16 rmr-rvifm gf MKln Kdtteich sTid JBOgJsline M3Q«iCb ten

16 inquire at the defendant.

17 Ri^BMoed Savdnge Bank, as ueU ae ccplse of UUted Statee

17

Mi. (DCS: Thaik you.

IS Festal aaiey cedere ten Karin HdWelth as Defendnc'a Bbitiic

18

IW CDURT: CkQ'.

19 Huber 3.

19

pad of bsA orateraeel

30

30

HB COURT: Mntaecof Che toy, ve'U ta*» our nranlng

HE aXET: Usee bdUbles «OU be received inx>

21 11 Ml at this tine. M'U be in raaeae te fifteen adiucae.

21 ■vUMse.
22

ICef—e ewriMi- tanfeMS 3 and 4 were aabied and

22 ad dsn ra reonvaa, we'U ooEitue «icb tbe am m bdalf

23 received in evidaneel.

33 of the (bfarbne.

34

34

Please cake the jiry ou.

25

teCueUy, it n^ be non like cwancy mliUas.

3S pLMM.

Hi. mBS: Bxcuaa ns, judge, for just a aaeend.

 •

1

UBKjr

2

TIB QOKI;

tte njuilii—t.
K. HKeltb', yov la<y«r hv amnad Co

1

le. imwos

3

TIC CDUCT:

ySa, ira'ai.

Ml. IOCS:

Judge, nayr we Inquire of the gmernmc if

3 tbs Otst chat he incoxSe co issc Che aee oi behelf cf the

3

4

4

deftree In this nneter.

H»ever, baton I will pezmic him to

S do so, I nut Inqolxe of ycu osnoemlng eactein rl^ite chat ycu

«

hM.

7

•

caae If you

9

casclfy In this csae if you elaec net co.

10

co do ao.

S they have aiy rebuttal?
6
TW oajCT: Hell, ch^ woi'c Isow Chat tsKU you zest.
7

Plzac at all, )cu have the zi^ Co taaclfy In this
%u UlvMiae hM the ri^ not co
TBu have every ci^

CO nyasr as a vdtneae in your ovn dtfwaa. if chat is tfac you

vur Knar, aay I acap ouc fer a acMM?

Ml. >Oa>

8 Chat cha
9

HeU, I irripfHTand ctac, tut {ccauidng

rasu.
Mi. eiSPOl:

The zeaaoi —

He vcD't baa« any rebuttal to tfac haa

10 been Inczcdxad ae far aa the icaie —

11 elaec to do.

11

13

13 have a couple of vccda with ae so that he can uipsit his

U

Have you dtacuBBad with W. ttmea cha iaaue of
Caaclfylng aa a wicmea at Che trial of this caae?

14

IHBCBFBaMr:

inaaiellfcic.

I need a few nfinjcaa

Ml. >OB:

U

thoi^xs vdch reataet to elnelrg aa.'gLinw befoa ee gsc co

14

cIobIhq

IS

IS aora, ^aaaa.
W

HB acm:

17
IS

THB oajir;

u

anochar iasua.

9>af«1«ff «r¥ifarrlnB witb annaal]

17

mcher issue.

Ml. tOBi

18

au

n^, sir.

o> BMd.

for t4r. MSMith'a benefit, vtan I

The zeaeoi is, ay client vould liha to

19

said GoMtntant's Bdiihic 4, the zeuceda of W. Maoelch's

19

30

factar —

30

HeU, ue'ra 93lng to de tMc, but CtMC'a

ne'za oercalnly going do chat, be that's

Ml. lOWSi

I ostalnly vxiderecand ChiC,

but

I'm czylng co aolv* theee pzeUanB.

21

Ml. H3CS:

Tharic you. JUt^, we on prooMd.

23 Oovarmnc's BOtfMts 3 and 4, bx tfaey'ze zaally nefmtas'a

22

TIC asm:

Cl^.

23

23

pnuBK CO the Fifth biarlMf. to the COnacitutioi of the

34

ttilcad scatas, you have the ri^ a zwaln aUant.

3S

Uhewiae have Che rl^ co tesCi^ aa a wlbaaa in your on

21

ISC OSURT:

1 indecatood it.

Tbu daaodbed chaa aa

Bddblca 3 «d 4.

24

TSCautT:

3S

TIC ODUCT:

Cl^.

BX ch^za In evidnce?

YSs, they ate.

W. Httalch, you irriecscand Chet

Wu

ms
1
2

dtfnae.

1
If you eleec co ceaci^ in tMa

oms,

you vmld of

VC COtCT:

And no one's used any chcaacs, tone.

3 liiMPiii. oeesolai. er Intliettbrlm Co

3

oouzM be BX^eec to ooaa-emAaaciat by the Uiicad scataa.

3

4

If you eleec co cmln ailenc, Che Ouzc is 93ing co Instrucc

4

T» IZFBOMr; tt>, air.

S

Che jury that no infsenoe MataMr nay ba Aavn, and further

5

TIC aun:

6

Chat they nay not

S defendant, chn, W. ttsae?

7

co ceacify in this oaee.

•

the fact chat you have elaaad noc

9 vfMChar « not you vant to caeufy In this caae?
10

TSC IBBOWT:

U

TIC aucT:

13

8

you Co waive yos

ri^ to taaclfy?

7

NSW, have you itiiriBanil wtcb Mr. IbMO, your liyer.

cms

Ml. tOCB:

AU ri^.

fuzthar for the

Jbc^, we're ^ing Co anHoms that we

zeac at ctda ciaa.

9

VC OUCT:

AU Zl»C.

The Q»C WlU IBW hetST «iy

10 rocioa to ba nade at the concluaiai of the gcweimanc's caae

Yes, I did.

itac is your vdCu do you tdah to testify

In your ovn defense, or do ycu tdsh co awsifflsa your

u
u

in diief.
Ml. >OCSi

Tour Hns:, the defendant at this tina

13

13

14

OMKS 1 thzou^ 10 of Che aipseedljc indioBienc. baaed ipoi

IS

the

IS tanSmc to zoiain silsK, air.

u

fade CMS of qailt.

17

17

M
IS

18

gf tls

SUtM CO ZWttiO OllttX.

TIC IBBCNir:

TIC aucT: AU n^. Qo you have any CMacions
about yaa: ti^ co caacxfy cr noc Co ceacify in this case?

19

TIC EZPBOINT!

20

TIC axsi:

21

HI. 91U1N:

33
23
34
39

I wish co —ciss Ry rl^ to Fifth

AU cl^. Sir, chsic you.
Ai^. could you aCc him aa far aa chece

Ch, weU, of ccuzae.

lea, sir.

ctac tie ibfaBnt. Hubert KdOelth. is in face the cos «te

20 pcasaaaad a flraarm with respect to thoae perUnilar eoMa.
21

WtSUOt to, 1 Bl CCC9Kufl9

23 of Che eve ocher muxs,
Is your daciBia) zoc

to ceacify in this eeae made fcaely and volmcartly?
nc iSFBCWir:

^adfleaUy, chat the gavouiwa. haa failed Co ptd*

19 comiitcsd the bank rebberies viaiged in tisst oouKS, and vto

No, sir.

tpf OMfcioo oc font oc **
HC CTUCf!

18

that the govmzzmc tee CUlad to establiCi a [slnB

33
34

d^.
12.

Thank you.

25 CDuice.

WnW O’lM—

is it 1 thcou^ 12?

I'm setoy, 1 stand maccad, it'a 1 through
Ard we're stUI nnc dae with tie ocher oo

So with z«peec to choee cases, JUdga, 1 wculdnm

 1

fcr a

2
3
4
5

of aci Jlctal with nqacc to Cti* ditedn.
VC GOIOi

V» aOe 29 ncUcn of ct» defotex, nade

1

VC CCCJRT;

2

Hi. SITW:

He just gjeetien thather that Inatzuctltn

at the ooncluatai of Che gwtamm'a ama in diief, wich

3

is ^fzqztate, given tlec there has bean no wicneaa

rwyert to astnta 1 tlKcu^ 12 cf Che a^enKllng intLcnaK In

4

Iteclfled Che detailaa. am the bank robber.

thia oae will he dmed.

S

6

Me can ha<.« Che charge ccxkfemce now.

6

Of the

7 99Mtniant't ra^jieted jury inecrueciox, all tdll be gmed.

7

$

The Onurt hae {nsacad a

6

9

note caking, o^iiaB of iSudi I now paae CO eounael for the

10

Yiae, air.

ineeiuBCion with regeid to

If Che govemiHiL's not going to argue

Hi. SISPIN:

tteil, I cake chat bade.

Hi. 91BPDI:

I ms thinking In tame of Cte bank

9
10

defendant and the Uilted States.

11

Hi. )OC8:

Chat w. wrrts dlcki'c idaclfy him thm —

Also, <k> you have an/ special teqjeeted inaciuctlcns,

11

rcUiBcy vlctine.

12 (X-. Itwes?

12

U

Ml. tOS;

I MDC Che acaedBcd at idncifKatlcrt.

13

M

VC OOlSTi

rn ^ing to give Chet,

14

Hi. lUSPlN: timer odnd.

15

VC aXKT: Mv <±)aeaetm toe the uiitad Scacas?
Hi. SIEFINs

IS

rn lodcUg ter

it «« am you ^aak.

Hi. K>es:

I think cheyr'll oancidi Chat arguient, but

dxre'e --

IS

HC. HMB:

It's cn page SO, Jix^.

IS

17

VC aXRT:

All rl^.

17

VC CCUCT:

CtOecclm tor che defqrkiit?

18

HI. KMSi

Page 50, jiXlge, if you have the '97 —

18

Hi. IOCS:

ttne, YOir »XtX.

All rtcfic.

19

VC OSCliT;

All xigit.

19

VC aouRTi

The CDirt will grant Che

20 detaileiL'e ceqjaet for the standard Inatruction on
21

identificatien.

22
23

25

side in ttguianc.

21

CO take her Inland to the paoe nekar accre, we're going to

23

ioacructiaa oi tehaU of the ikiited Scacea?
Ht. siiwiN:

YOu have ninety mUutee CO Che

20

it cveere chat alnoe this lady has to leatve

22 zeceae at 3 o'clodt, hx we dsuld he able to oarlirip the

Are there aiy djjecticnB to the CbWe yancjeed

34

Hocbgecclai.

tm/ we just have a eoan with leapecc to

24
25

Chat inacnctiai?

aigjDxxa before that.
M it's ninety ninxae to the aide. And we'll be In
recaas for can ntiucee.

And whan we one bade, I gueae you'll

1114

mi

zcfcutCalT

1

have CD acaec [ucting all of Chat cogathar.

1

2

ftust'a in teoaea for cm irtiMCm.

2

le. HtWHI;

3

tirtef ceoMal.

3

VC aXRT:

4

VC <rutTi

4

76. Hrmwi:

S

Ht. IOCS;

M« ie g^ng to open.

5

n. Kmwn:

6

vcaucT:

7

Ht. ffiMFiN:

8

I on. %ur anor.

Is Che Cburt antlclpecing taking a liadi

tseak after Che ^veonmC's cpeolng?

9

VCOSUO:

Yea.

(«. MTinm:

U

VCaXRT:

12

le. MtnaKi:

7

veaucT: AU n^.

8

Hi. K9E:

nr piipHBe of che teoord.

9

VC OUtT:

The Out will rempo ruling on these

10 notions at this cine-

Dcm Che OucC give tamlnga.
Yes.

Yea, sir.

Ybur H3KT. X would imow Che nrxicia

6 pravleualy rade.

d^. Tte's fine.

10

No, sir.

Ecae the gcAOUiicx test in rebuctal?

Tine's if).

11

you give us a mming betbce tine's

12 «il Che testinoiy in this oae, and it but ratmlne for ynu to

Manbers of chs JUcy, you'm now heard all the avldanoe

13 tp7

13

bear che closing acgjience cf che actomeye at*i the Ourt's

14

VC aXST:

14

inaoucciaa as to Che law.

IS

te. MLIHNU:

IS

Sure.

VC CCUS:

18

lAsy sbn
VC SUtT:

20
21

1 imm

fiftem ndiaicea left.

17

19

Hot da you need?

Quid you plaeae tell ne

Plfcem niiucee, okay'.
ccutceoqbJ

•

Please be aaeced.

tbvee. you nay yaooeed, elr.
HI. tcaeS:

Your »nr. at chie tiae the defanAnc

34
25

VC CCUCTi

NBitea of Che Jlsy, you'^n now haerd che

evldsoe ni the cestinmy ^ behalf of the defendant.
Doee Che gwamtent baw aiy avldanoe to offw in

fm you )onw, <fac the Imyere will am/ to you at cUe

16

tine la net evidence in the case.

17

cmaiece of the caecimoR/ of che wlDiaaaaB that you heard hse

The cvidanoe in che caae

IS

fian chis wicnesa stand, and also these irar^ icane of {f^elaal

19

•vidanos or docunantary evldste that the Cburc has adAtted

20

Into evtdmce and oede a part cf the reoerd of che criad.

21
22

22 wculd rest.
23

15

The purpcee cf che closing argcRencs is to puttc Che
1 imiTiis fv eed) si^ to argae to you at this tiae vfat Cbqr

23 believe the evictece in the cess hM aiehm {sm«d or failed to
24

izove, «d also to argae to you Che Ineeruetiam cf law ctac

2S

Che Cburt will give you in its diarge.

 •

1

30th, 3000, and nnrdi lac. 2001, aigc toto use rebbad In

2

noaazd Quicy. And chece la no dadc ad no dlaguce char one

3 ycu'll thsi hear ban tt-. Ibcs oi betalf of the defendant, and

3

aan. m nan aloa, aicoed aadi ad awacy one of Chm bato.

4

7

1
3

Ibu Mill Clod tbac the axkr ot i^unM la ItWrlml
CD tha OBdar of pneC.

Hie getwanwBC Mill cy> the aitfiiaa..

UJB ^&UBOUU_LLli UHl nM UB *

* »unpy QQ

SU UUBB

5 Ida face with a aki nedi.

$
«

the argjiHiLa in zetutal.

7

ineccuet you cn tht law that you auBC fnllnw and atfdy in

7 wuld attar the banka yelling ad aoeadig.

reaching your vacdlec.

B patcam.

a
»
u
u

AC the cacluBlai of the aiiAiMnta. the Oax tdU

Becaijee of the tine oraualnts, and hwr»a»e as c£

6

9

Hda

taa wy acery and vary Intlnttdning.

Ha

Ik followed a

ik Knew hla acuff. Manban of tha Jury.

Ha would

oara in, face OMred, gy ta> Co cha tallka, aay ha wanted

ycur awlme haa to be Meuead early, ne're ^Ing to fine hear

10 sonay, tdg laanay, lota of nmy. Wnay Cm the aaood liiaai'.

Cm the Uilced Stacaa In their ^suiQ S9aiant. Ha* re then

U

no halt, no

pads.

13 9Dliig Co--------- te liidi.

12

13

U

ad he <Ud me heelcace to ecldc etde gat in Cm

U nr. HMoa «d the argnianc In tebuctal. aid Uw ta'll reoaaa

14

of hla vlctliie' face. He did not bMltace to cum anaad and

IS

IS point at ochare in that bak aa be

Me'11 OBiB iadc efts lindi and chan you'll hear troa

Ccr the day ao that thia lady

X4

obi

get to Che dcctor'a ofCice.

And ae'll aak you to oons bade in the mnlng, ori aC

16

Ha taa irnaclng.

MD UuB IlAliBL UUJt V

Ik had a gn dicing four of Cheae

wm

Utdiig dkr tbac tok.

illlMi^ii^a UBI*

k*

17

Chet tin. caicamw eEinlng. the Com will inacrucc ym oi the

17 old, they wse all Ida vlccifk.

U

la# chK you ace to follow and a iply In raadtlng your i«nllcc.

IS

19

■d yoi dculd chBi zaciie to deUheraea your wdlcc.

19 ifVBlally lava a gn. be tae chreetailiQ and intlinldaciiig ad
20

afauelva.

pcooaad « bahalf of the Utlced scacaa in argjim. you iny ds

21

rcbbeclea -- he hit these bato early.

ms at etda cine.

32

TT*iwR-lM ivrtiriwil Iwriwiai

33

la m gHA, he wa In, he gtc Ma eoay, be filled qp Ida

30
21
23

And ewi In tlzae four icabarlae kace he didi't

So. Ha. Wcranl or Mr. scefin. If you're ready to

23

te. HlUUMl:

34 nr. WMa.
2S

it pleeee Ctaa Ctucc. %air ttner.

34

Maban of tha Jtsy.

ihse'a no dsubc or no ctinifa chat b«aaan JVuary

You recall tbac taetlmiv.

hit Cheae bade
Saw of Che ei^

ad IQilS In Che acDdm.

And

ad ha aaa ouc.

2S

And chm'B no dotbe, Ikabaca of the Jury, Chm he waa

________________________ _____________ Utf.
1

auocaaaful.

2

Chan el#K bade xetteriee

Ik cerriad at^r, he auoceaafuUy rebbad all of

1 ny

ye. SCefin. Spadal Agmc lawla, w thank you

3

te yos CM and actaBlat to tide eaae.

3

3

nmian caaa.

4

(bnute-

4 faaai acn aenatta of levity during the trial, talKlBg about

S

Che oTCecy.

a

all theee ei^ banta.

So

Ttu dlCh't hear m/ evidsca. any real kAdnoe to

Hda la a vary, wy

This is a twy aarioua orlM.

t tanw Uaie tea

S Nr. Ikwea' hair, dac haw

Raelly. diet thia caaa bcdla eba) to la juac cw

«

But nato TO idacake abac It, this la wry aarioua.

7

lyearinna two ^jaetlcna te yoi to anaMr. Caa, did the me

7 Ha olBM dddt Che /kfiw.iww la daryl are iaportanc oiaea.

a

ant rcb Cheae el^ Into; ad Cio. la tha ikfaina the baft

a

tebbar.

9 had a very full wade of taBtlrany.

9
10

Yea and yea.
Na aubidC to you, HBEfaara of tha >Aay, that chse la

tlayre aarioua olne, ctayra dangama <zines. And we'w
And naiy of you. neat of

10 you dldvc aver think ycu would ba aitclng ae jucara, and lo

IB iena~niil'i1r doubt that the deCadanc, Milbart Htteich, la

u

ad behold lare you are, in a aaat having your Uw obetzucCad

13

Ctaa ba* idder. And you Iobw tbac, you Ibb» clat bacetae of

13

fer a vaak, and we Chadc you fee your tlia and aceancicn.

13

tha haca that «ace ford in hia teiaa.

U

u

tot tone tbac hmaae

14 of tha bag, the Wry Iky bq ford in hla bsuaa.

The blade

IS lyla jadac ford in Ida faouae.

u
n

The gaw foud in hla heuae.

Hw gataay ear, Che red

bogaidK Nacedae, hla ear at hla heuae.

And you Iobw thia.

la toibaia of tha Juy, of ooueea, hrmae of tha aicklng gai In

Ibw. aa His >*»»w cold you. thia la our qfnttidcy to

14

am ig the avliknce.

IS

in thia caae. ad !'■ going to do Uac for ^ all in juK a

IS iiuuatL.

And, godw cUm’s beat a loc of widanoa

Sue before I do that, 1 m to talk about the la*

17 trlefly, baeaae Ua ttm'a going to call ycu Che lav, but wa
18 naad to udmeand dtac —

19

thia caaa. Mtually. It taai'c a aiddng gai. but tha aiddng

19

20

ddre.

30

wy atact vfdle ace going to ba dalibacacing, daddtng Ctaa

31

gaaciena In this caae. and you're gdig to be *<'wWag the

31

Ob ddxt. ite defandanc'a atdxt. ddd> wa bud

33 hargiiig ao nloaly In hia eloaec ac lUiUiwat each naraca m

23

23

tha d^ of tha aeaidi.

23

34

Clat tha defendant le the bedc rebfaar.

3S

Thia prouea beyond a raaaooabla CtxbC

Mtore of da Jiary, en bebelf of tha Odead Scacea,

34
2S

Ik need to put this in oontaC, harsaw y^ all in a

ad ^glying chaa to tha la>, aa Rls tknor uaciucca. So
tisBB points on the la*.
Pleat, rrimmiihlfi <to±c.
tha cUJgKlat of the

It la om ctaligKlcn, It la

sema of Aaailca copaDve tba

 1 datednc'B guUc beycnd a ^'l■■l^l^onllble dnic. Itot iB a

1

3 TwaniiihlB d3utx7 kib Hoecr will iweruec yoi that a

3 oonaldarlng the eddenoe you nv "*')* daductlcns acd read)

3 WBBcnible daibt 1b a leal tobt. baaed

3rd in fact, again. Hta Hts' tdll tell you chat In

TMBan and oaim

3 oacluBlas <4>ldi reass eed ciaroen aanea lead you to aeke.

4 Sana*, afts- careful ad litpazclal cosldsKiai of all c( etaa
5 addana.

4 J(d 1 low re hare ^acple fian different relka of life and

6

6 ecM caedsace

ItiUa cba gstoBBC's bunlan of praof la a acziee er

5 dlfferarc baefegrouda, re hare aoee acmtiflc bad^tourfa ad

&cn

aSniicry.

7 haaiy oa, ic la noc oeceaaazy the a defadaK'a gjllt ba

7

8

pcowad beyond all paealtole dettt. Thac'a noc Che acadaid.

8 cednlcel deiU ^ aiy facial ddll, Jret taM In all Chet

9

It'a ]UBC nwaTinj-iTn doubt.

9 you're heard ad uee your eenran ama, implying it to the law.

10

3nd that'a Che baacy of It, you dan'C need aeif

10

Seocnd, clxeunacancial evidade venua dlraec

So, let's get oi to the facte of the caee. MeBtera of

11 evldasa. Dmrlng voir dire vtn ycu all ware balng aalaecad CO

11 Che Jjry, the Udlcarert dargae cwalre comes. Bl^ eemte

13 ba the jury, W. scafln bciafly talked about it. naaver,

12 of bnk rdtecy. «d four cornea of ualng a gat djrlng Che

U that'a not aoschlng Ccr >ou all to ba too utu:amed tbeuc.

13 camttaelai of the bnk uilrey. HIb Miner 1b ^Ing to Inaczuct

14 «fathar aoaachlng la direct cr dzeuaKancial.

14 you on thB

15

15 grore fv hmk zdtay.

In fact, KiB ttnor <dll tall )cu that the la« natae no

of the caaa; chat la. diet do re hare to

16 diatlnctim, mke no dlacincUoi bacwaan the welefc )cu dnuld

16

17 sire althar direct cr dicuiacatclal evldade.

17 FDIC Ijwoed, ttat nmey had to ba takm. chat three had to ba

IB the la« cheyra the eatne.

m tha v/m of

in face, Kla Ifcnar «dll tell )«u,

tb' 11 tall you, fer areipla, that hmlo hare to ba

18 foroa, vlolaioe, or lntiinLcbtlon,

tar the gm diarge. he' 11

19 you dnuld not ba aaiaauied atouc vtwthec the widanca la

19 cell you Chat a gm ted to be uaed cr tnrdlahed. Thcee parts

20 direct <x dituiBCaiClal.

30 of the reaa are vary slnpla.

21

21 Inawed, chare's no duputa that the breka wree roic insurad.

3rd flmlly, ad vaiy iapoRancly. aa }«u decide the

1 nan, ta sonple, taC

32 iaaua in the oaae, the noac lupaRanc thing you twe la yoiv

33

33 oeansi ame. The Jury ayatsn vorto bacauae we hM cwelre

33

24 pe^la who bring their life sgacieneaB «d chair ssod uiiuut

34 dild) la how da you all lonw b^dd a I'BiBonabla tbik chat cha

25 asaa Co bear en a ceae.

2S dBfbdMC IB Che brek lotber.

So I'm really not ^Ing to laeta your Cine talking
chK.

I'd like CO Inacaad gat to the heart of the oaaa,

1143
1

1 U'e idacioal.

tbll, Rldjard voedar Bcuagga. you heard hla hree

3 yaacarday. lb la a vrey calantad and oprelanoad fermle

3

3 (tBCogratfilc bomner. Me ipmc the beccar pare ef cha dqr

3 icbbsry. la frund el^C polnta chat tnatdad. And fer eadi and

4 ytaida/ hearing hit ^jalltleaclaa, hearing hlB caacianv-

4 •vary rdlirey •- ad, you Imow, and you all idll hire tha

Hell. ledc. you hreid re Kielak Bak, the firac

5 jad I’ai bjre I oauldi’t evsi <b It jmclca Co cry to aumaciaa

S iBece^ipha.

6 all of Chat in a few dm ndncaa.

6 GKtalnly locks like the aare dUrc. And it is.

7

7

But you did bear about Ida badi^nmd «d

l nea>, you could sea to yore ndad qa it

ta every rdkery he had — for reary bak rettery
wrreUlaEB ptKCcgiegk. ecqx Sminat xLch the Jacket, he

6 grelitleacicna, and you heard about the malyals chat ha

a

9 parfomd. And you heard about hew this ahlrc haa auch a

9 Irel at leeat four and tp to al^ poincs of ccnparlaen. 9o

10 dlaclnccire

u

I netn, ic loda like an ordinary shirt.

In

fact, you ell will hare Chase no shirts Co lock ac In the jury

u

Che defendant wore In oennaree. this is the ahlrc Che defandaic

12 voca re Firac Sauthacn.

12 icon*
13

10 thla la tha dilrc clat res uaed in Kielak, this ie the ahlrc

3nd, you tosw. they leek bIDb, fam he area polneed

13

'ihta la Che dilrt tha datreckre wree In Btmk eC

U o«, and you all ceo see. if you atart to lock ac the little

M Aaarloe. me la the dilrt the ibfbilHC rere ac irextactble

15 dKsilB, they're not idnclrel. They're alike, but they're lat

IS lakes sc Souciarvat. I guese ic res Ma ludv ttirc. Tbu

16 Idmtirel. Hell, by cfalng tha pomca of coipaclMxi by ming

16 lea. ha rece it for the tak icttreles, heraww be wee

17 this thin line, «fdch is me-emth of di Indt, and Che

17 suoaMsful mcil ha got esu^.

10 Ideating pectem he cold you wee three point fire Indiaa, wo

16

ttw, really, i osuld sit ckam new. I ireen. Che ahlR

19 ic'e me In thlrcy-flre dance of this allsdng.

19 alone, the defedsic'a ahlrc fomd at hla heuae. chac alme

30

30 pBoree bayod a reMcnabli doubt Chre Che dribdanc la the bak

3rd doing a ooiparlaai, ad you' 11 here the daxta.

31 you'll hare cha datta to lock ac, ha waa idle to tall you Co a

21 rebbST. Bre there's so auA noca. three la so nidi me. Oh.

22 ma ad •• dire res ic •• six tdllien aillien prcfciblllty dac

23 «nd lac's, you lea, let's talk di»r, tha arenh cf the

33 thla la Che diirc. Ifale 1* the dUrc. lb cold you, I'a ares

33 ddddn'a hana, 1540 ttzttmre 69th Tbmoe m Mibd,

24 you all ireailai. chac all he would need would be three polrca

24 norlda.

2S of eoapreiKn, cr cUccy to the third power la order oo aay

35

Tbu haerd the ceaciaav.

Inred cha Ceeciaciv fne

 1 to) Mn ht

^lig.

Clw 9i;y. I'a aun >ot'U iwailai, tbe

2 gaoclmn ito pitAaMd bouae* and fij«d chaa

and aold choa.

3 And you heard Ran Mia tell ycu hew la laec tha defendant in
4

Uterty City, tew ha oold hun the hsuee at 4600 Brooher Straot.

5

and then oold him the Irtae he lived at, 1540 tbXtiaeBt 69Ch

«

Terxaoa, end oold him the hnaa at 1532 tCRhNaot 66th Street.

7

So hlia three heueee.

SO Kv*>V' thac'B the aigiifleaiee of thoae leoaita.

In any ewe. you heard Mr. Mxa ceetlfy chat he eold the
houae cn tfcrttaeet $9Ch lerzacs to Che defaxtant.
Ha Hould aee the defadant in the nei^ttrtood.
Hould peaa tbwi that heuae all the ciire.

He

he nould drive

dswt Uhatty Qty and aee the defandanc'a car there. And eo oi
April lich. 2001. a aeardi verzaic ia eMecuted.

And ty the aoy, juet ae ai

And Agac

•

aoida. He how Incnduoed the lecetde ed the padoee of theee

idMla. Agac Seger. ocha rai agaxa. ae tail ae lecel law

9

ClBee pwpeatlea.

aifdoam. they go to the houae.

And there are -- Bdiihlt 101 la the Biuiuii

10 Street. adUUt 106 la tbe 1S33 mtleeet 6Sch 7«mce. And
11

16
17

MbiuM parked In frtnc.

And «4ien you Iccic -- it's very Iteereetlng. >»•«»«»■

■iployiMt.

Yet, or these

that they onreat hint.
Sole local la> enfuroeierk. they go into the houae,

he

tlHt.

U

they (b Wiat'a called a eueep to neke sure ntted)' else la
there. It's aafs.

And you heard Mr. Amire call you chat cn «ncher

They go in, ndxry elee vea there, it wee

19 applieacion it aeld the defenlanc ucxlad for the pool and petlo

aafe CO go in, and they vent in.

30 ccepay. >4ilcti use hie ccnpiaiy. Wild) viaai' c eiwi In edstoioe

ttiat (Ud they find?

31

Ww Chat ^pllcaclai aae edadtted.

23

yooeelf. Wy le the itafenlae. lying aboK Ida aiplayaBX.

23
34

4

Ww. Maifcere of the Jury, tn« nay pacple Ws aren't

alien

benk nttvs twe eeda vdcb bolea had cut out like this? %u

He all Iobh chet'e Wiat be i«a

And ooie

1

like Che am hag.

3

tw little holes a the aide.

3

■ to be chlzd nedt.
Rldiazd Vbrdar magga didi't empoze, chia la not a

Tio.

These chat la’ia miodeed mo

avidme. one with the h^ee patted out.

gaoa the faaks HOuldi't lock too teocably igm hloi pacing

2 ftax» Che holes are cut cut. In soie they aron'C.
3

Jkxuolly mare chan Chd.

could aval see bail Che aunMlUace pccca Chet in aone of the

And they began the aeardi.

itell, lo ad mold, they find aki neeka.

So you')* gx to adc

nu hewe CO haio cnploynerc to get a lutgage, ail I

2S tank letter aa ai ronpaim.

1

They see the

mo Che or, drive the cor bade a little Uc. get out, ad

lied Mut hie

I neon, you heard Mr. Vidal taetify thee be isver

for Vidal

They aee Che defendanc'a red

NXhing'a ^dng oi.

defatfci* get cut of hla house, cpai the dialn Unk fenee. get

<dMn you lock throt^ the purdase tecceda. you eae that in

U altar to tjj/ theae heueee. the
15

6:30, 7 o'clodi in Che flccmng.

Bdutait 100 is the purdese of his heuee-

13
13

And you recall the cestlneny. they get chare at abcuc

4

I nean. gtt. chere’e acripa, you eae the
Sure locks like the beg.

Mil. He asK it ip to Rldiazd \taedsr sruagga, and be
mndMd it.

ibi. alike cIe Wilrc, WUdi hal sudi e

S very dlsUncclve Itan, alike the ahtrt. WOdi la amluBiw.

5 dlsclnctlve patcem, this did not hsio oni^ individual

6

But you all. again using your cennai sanss, cai certainly aee

6

identifying ctazaccecietics m him to eey chat it m Che bag.

7

this is ocnslscaK with the phocopegks. And, ef oouesa. you

7

but iwitoi Wise he told ycu, this bag la indleunguiahable.

S

had all the tellsrr cestlnoiy.

B

indUtlngultteble, bos the beg that the defandarc used.

Thoy all cold you it

hbs

a

9

9 blade da node type of thing.
10

And me of them ew noticed Chat the hole vms pulled

Bverythlng lined ip.

Rswtaer how he told ^ chm'e

10

Che dark line ad the silvsr line, ad the buttois a there.
Ha did that anelyaie, ad Che bucca'a there a Che eon dark

u

dan a Che deek, and ahe vee able to get the defendant'e

U

12

oaipladoi from thee. And cheae ware food In the hsuee; cne

u

line, ea nell aa all of the ocher dieiaccerlstics he told

13

In the pile of clothing, and ae in the zoam.

13

TnrfiaMfijjifniipifj Jjl tte ScuOiaXBC VCOWyi

M cf calk, you tenw, about Wat Agm Sager did «icb chase, how

u

ha«e in the houae?

IS be labeled the hag.

IS

The goat.

16

16 plcojce. you'll hove the piconreB wich you in the juy roae.

ihse vee a lot

Hell, you ami the beg. Che tarowi bogs ere there and

17 1b a enUnary Isyeen'e caipsriaa. it locki juet UM the

the labels.

18

B dlstieetm, Wat ne call a red herring to dlsciKC you bem

IS

Che iaauae in the case, tacauee he

19 You cn iM yourtelf the sleew is brttiad ip.

19

hbs

I nea. that really Is

there, he rsmters

30

seeing these hats.

31

Now HB've got the hat, •m've got the dilrc.

22
33
24

He seized chon, he put than In nridence.

•tec else do we find in the heuae? The broMi aoriped
adiy Kiy bag.

mw. this «ma used In the SoutKmat zdtey.

ad a^in in the Jury roae you' 11 hove the sipt by tens that

35 HB iwe paaeing atood.

But em to yew eye. It sue locks

QO MB

Again, you c» aee rl^ here In the

17

It «as handled carefully.

iTw

20
21

ooae.

Saa the indancstioe here, this ae ha the inctancstia.
Ybu cn aaa hew

the sleeve is hutted ip here.
But we ew hove even sczdger crvidance tha that.

22 iH—iM» this »iwv «w aenc ip to Riduid Vbcitar Brue^, and
23

you hasrd him ceetlfy yeeceertay. just Uka the Mzy Itay beg.

24

urtH oaac, it'a indiaciipumable, IndisUngulahlble, bon the

26 /TMT eha Che

awe.

The defodot, HUborC Mdbreich's

 •

1 otac. MLlherc NdCrelch, che bank zttber, am in the me

1 lagitimte aipiloynaic, yet all

2 pem.

2 Haw, let's calk abcuc Ally Hards te a few nlnjcai. Ally

3

diBC elae did wa find at che hsuae? Hall, wa fond

this fancy alactzaiic acuff.

3 Arris, you hrard her testify here, Ae wee a govarmnc

4 gm. The PBI feud two guns, loaded gma, ard lota and lota

4 nployee vho had a pnroteselcnal relaticnah^ with the

9 of aimnicim. The bar* rrt*^ had gue, the deterkne haa

S dtfandant. Rdvei him te a very long tlra.

<

6

911a. A^nca alao aav a lot of blade pence and a lot of blade

Ae first net him in Octdaer 1996. She met with him

7 T-diicca, oonsiacoK with <4iac the callara and the other

7 oKhly Clsougi Oeoaiter 1996, ad leeund chose neechly

6 ■iplayoaa told you that che l«k zetber me waarizg.

6 iiseciJijB fron Sipcaiber 1999 cbroigb rardi or April 3001. So

9

In fact, ycu cbi aaa in aoie cf che piccisea the

9 aliaasc DO yeere. This lady baa knowi the ckfadanc te alnoet

10 T'dilrt tidernaach che ptlaid ahirt. And you alao heard abcuC

10 two years. YOu hsatd her taatlfy that they wculd met ac least

U tha fancy electronic agulpeant that tas fold in tha houaa; che

u

12 big amen TV in the living roan, che ocher TV's, chs OX)

12

13 pklsyers, che OB.

13 They M3,lid last anyvbare fren cxency adrires, thirty idiucas.
14 dgroding. So Ae tone tte defaiknc. Aid you teazd her

In fact, ycu nen hniirl che cfflcar testify

14 this noDung. Officer Seepsen. about the breek-ln that had
19 htppened ac hie heuae ibere the equlpm vew tak*), and te had

OKB a mKh, ip Co four tinea a nenth.
It MS one on one feecings, irtai/ else in ths roon.

IS castify how Agaic Uwis. durltg the oauree cf Chla

16 to replace it.

1« foesUgatlA, wait and saw her ad sbawed her sene

17

17 ■urvaillance phDtogrgiis.

And this is fron s ran vto ditki'C hsra scasdy

is •iploynsic.

I nesi, you hesrd Kelly taarrla CasUty that the

IS

Md ate Icoked at the pdotcgnptia, and in fact ene in

19 defendant was zegilzed to tqnrt his oipilaynBU to her, ad he

19 particular, ahe sav chia phoUgrapfi ad ate aald, gee, Chat

30 had ac beat epoccy aiplaynroc.

30 Iccks like Hubert KfoelA. Kw, 1 gass aa at aside, bicam

in fact, you all lawiCra' tiro

31 IneidBK libere te cold Kelly Wtria chat te laa wedung te Itoi

21 we heard aoie ooas-ocmninauai. A. H30S ia taking lama wlA

23 Andra, ao Ally Wrrls net the defadam ad Ibi Anlra at the
23 ham.

23 A. terls aaylng it loda Ute Kilherc. it's Klbarc, it

34

34

Aai Ally Krrla gx chare, d» aaa te laa chan with

39 Ran AfflizB. Ally ttezls left, ad the dafetdait left. A

33 appaara to be NUbert.
Thac'a aoiACics, zigK. Sha saw cte picture. Aa

3S aaa Che pdeture ad identified cte defadait rigx hare to you

all a* thla perecc, che bsik letter, ae the Jeteileit HUtert

1 photograph, diai you eee it with am of tha OChara. Noblca

HJCieieh. And «e aaked her, wll, «hat la it abcuc Chla

2 has Che hair ia bmdad «p>.

picture chat, ycu )aat, helped /3i zeco^Uze him. She told

3

you, ehe nid Ae «bb able to eee Che profile a little Uc.

4 of oouree ia aoBiscaic with Che cbeadladca baing

sbe «e a^ to get a aenee at his stann, that tea

There'a alnoac a little painty tip cn the cop, idUdi

9 aanro.

in thee

If you lode ac am of the oebB- photo^^apha, you will

hv taro. Md tden <e aebad her to «t*'**" that, the haigbt

6 aaa chat Mne bndUng ip. how, this mn't tha only

IT*^*'*** CD te the same aa MilheR. And the 9K, I bellewe abe

7 piiXAjtp^i chat Kelly Kzrla was dxsn. die ids dnei am

said that MLlhect bad bean gaining «el^. nl that's

a
»

oroeiatn with this picture of the tank icCfaer.
And, you knew, 1 urot to xeirlnd you, and lUdeid

ochera.
Md de said, hey -- in che achers, che bwk letber

10 had his face covered, she said, hay, chat giy'a wearing —
lodes Idee he'B wearing two wetdies, Milbert always wears two

hatvean idantificatiai and leco^tioi, *■'»*»’»» RiAard \tarder

u
u

Bnagge also talked to you about this Aait. And he ooipaied

13 WM meting with the defenisit ad he enly had era watdi, ad

the profile, the defsxfero’a profile, the bank rtfcbar*s

14 da said, hey, dare'e your other lecdi, what hqproad. A

profile, with a >000 picture of the defandanc.

15 said it had beat UiJibi.

VQrdar Bruegge talked tfiout this, you leiow, the dlffarabe

Aid they cuipaied then, and he eald to you that the
nose, the tituth, sd tht dun mto eonsietant with -- ad I
if I'n hlodung anybody — the nose, the ncuch. ad

u

wstchis.

in fact, you rawber die told you chat m dqr da

And chat «as vary ecnaiscaK to due aha knaw the

17 defendant to be wearing, cn the ieaje of the two wetchaa,
16 Msibacs of che Jisy, we have incrcdjced into evitece. t

the chin. He ean iccaced it ao it loild be at tha aane angle,

1» believe it'a the 21 aeriea. piccuree cf the defadanc diidi

•bw. he aeid fron a edaneific point of view he oould not

30 mce todd in hie car. Md you will lave the qprocixucy to

itetlfy It ae the defadae., but ha oould idantlfy tha ahirt.

21 aaa Ctaae picona. 1 chink we peaaad chaw aroud.

But he alao told you there'a a dittenca babaai

33

But you'll have an eppcctiDlcy to aaa chan in the Jury

identificaticn and reoa^Utioi. Ally Kcrla leoagnisad the

23 zoon. But it ia clear, the defedaic ie wearing two latchaa in

dafardent. And, Meulei'a of tha JUty, t want you to notioe

24 each of Cheaa plecutea haze. And, in fact, Maittai'B of the

aorathlng else about thle picture, ctua aurvaillafioi

39 jisy, lec'a not feegat, two black tended lacdas ware fold In

 1 tha d»f«)dnc'e iKuae. JM if jcu lock «c tbe £» hMd o(
2 theM wcdMe. che/ cKUinly ippaar oonalaccK with
0)t

1 <tzw the car -- well, let's just talk about the car. ttx else
2 do ycu loow that the detazlea. le Che bank icbbet? Nell, cheze

3 benk rcttxr's tiearlng.

3 is the getsMy car. There ia no
4 defendant owns the zed burgmdy **

4
5

BacBuse if jcu ttwn cum aw u acne of che bnk
(fntosraphe. airveiUaioe (tixagr^tm, aid lock elOMly, jai

6 cat M* that the defaidait la taaidng tw

in the

5

or
'

chat Che
nb

intzadJOBd chB

zeoardB into evidence tfcwlng hla owiarahlp of »•)»«• or.

6

7

airwillaKB phetogz^da. And I enoounge ycu to lock at thaae

e

phitcty^a. wtwclelly teoalng yos accaxioi en the

9 asutionat rotisy. lAidi la the 7 Kalea; the Bartc of Aiarlce

Hz MS eesi dziving that oar by agmts. The car ms
7 fsilwl in fiua. of the house on the (by of the nrinn~ti Kelly
8 Iterls ear hue driving It. ib
it to Kelly Nocrls.
9 That'S Ma

NbU, cUa ia cfaa eer that's idskifled in

10 aid the Fine Sajchetn.

10 zotbecy after rettery aftw zetbszy ae the getaMy car.

11

You will see, if you lock eloaely, utae qpeen to be
12 tio larrhwi. tbr, Richazd Vbzzler Bzuegge aitn teatlfied about
13 thie, that he did an eamlnetloi axl blew it ip, and he rnii^
14 Dot idakify these objecta aa oatdiee, be he idaeitied It as

11

U bo bands on the rl^ wziac. Then ms
fouid, altho^
16 iKt In the defmdarc'B house, in hls car. this bcowi bag. Md

15 reCbsry. MU. de had idstklfied
16 butgnV type of ear.

17 M'U talk ebok the car in a aecod.
U
lias brow) bag. aid If )tu look ac the pletuzas tzen
1» the UOen zetbery, uhidi ia the last zobbezy, ycu can eeccalnly

17

20 see thK It'S very ccnslacaic in tsna of the ahape of the bag

20 dafardak get into the red Ztezosdee. Md she idaklflea it aa

21 arl the haxdlee. lai't it vary iKeraetiiQ, you heve the
22 defandait. thla rale, has ao rany bags. Of oaurae. Che bank

21 a Mercedea, and ycu
maiber her rather drove a lisrcedH,
22 ao de has naaoi to be fanuUar with tfercedee.

23 irfliei' ali^B laed a beg. Vac ms also part of hls Ecbia
34 opsrandi.

23

2S

35 the lady fm unguay dio told you about the genius

1

NOW, let's talk about the rar. Bic I

Sbarting with the fine bade robbery, thla ia tAiig
12 ycu bade to the first d^r of trial, Klslak Bade. JBdcle 6lvas.
U You rwiHiber hsr, she was the prsgMit lady who was the flzet
u vlcUin cf Che defaxtsk. the os
paaaed oik after the
car aa a zed bo^

a» nMT got, eloee to the ear,
i. ic was in the
18 puking lot, but that's Met it loetad lite to hu. That sene
19 zctbeiy, you had Ribin Yablondy. She actually saw the

Ikibezy ruber four. chK'e the Bade of Mieilra

34 iiiljay. A^ln. JBcbea rwwiu»«w» ycu mi^k zscell hu. die's

re 1 talk

dialed

911 on the apealar ploa. ad ycu leiow, ds Mai'c too h^py

1

they on.

3

about that.

2

dncqiben cenduotirg cne-cn-one intervleM. they'ze just

3

h^py about chat either, hsrraae he turned aroad and poliked

3

caking dowi sera notes.

4

ac <keg Ftriae ad said, hag ip that [das <k I'll kill ycu.

4

5
6

Md of cotrss the robber, the ctefadsa. weai't too

But aiyw^. that's the vdoieea I'm calking about.

And

ycu zerall chat ds saw the ear clsoi^ the ulndoM ef the Bade

S

Ttsy'n not siccing ^w> in a nice cals relaxed

»«:. HDwee
chat ip.

m#

Sae of the zeperca we very ecdk.
siggeatlng to ycu Use ler. nclas ode

tk isimUaed Boiethug after Us fact.

Tliac ever

6 h^ps) CO Mty of ycu all. telllig ecneba^ a accry and all of a

7 Mnerica. and she itekifled it ae a zed raiLeJaa. bo^ type cf

7

sudden zeranber a fact chat neyba ycu dldi'C tsrentsr a little

8

Mdoadae.

8

dale ago?

9

the rar ds dzo« In her ceukzy.

10

Md ycu laiaitsz, ds zecc^iizaa Maroedas, that's

In chat sane robbery,

m

9
had the geoiue.

m

had Oreg

10 Meiuabe Killer.

U

nriae caeclfy chat be alee as< the defsdanc gat iiko the zed

U

13

burgwdy rtirirtn

12 Killer.

and, in fact, he adlad <is detail, he

13
14
13

haa that Jeeua syntca.

16

Wv would he lie? diic incereec does he have?

Ikbbezy nntaer six.

Tills is Us SoucKTcuec zebbey.

Ttsc nere ring a bell? Its better Chsi to

In fact, ycu isufitei hw. ds

mb

voy ccuragaeue.

dleclnccly isiarLers dsc he calls I think the Jaauo fidi,

13

she wee Us lady ds actually left Us bank sd stood oi Us

ifiich MS oi the bade cf the Maroedea.

14

ccvncp.

Oefendnk'a razeedaa

IS

And I guess juac os word oi httr. FSrlaa.

1 chink

How, she ceetlfled UiK she duti't actually see Us

16

defsdanc get in Us car. hk that

17

rawUg in Us aeoada folXodig the retbary.

18

MS Us firat wiczsea to acbsUy leaM Us bank sd ima an

ms

Us say car that wee

17

chan MS a let of ocaa-Mminaelen. ycu

U

Id. Ibwaa

19

chat, is chat oi your report, is else on the agsk'e z^nzt.

19 tppcmnicy CO aee it. ebe got a gnat leek ac chat car.

30

Hdl. 1 nm, you heard A^k lewis and Agsk Sags- teetlfy.

20 daaalblng it as.......

21

it's alaoat liAs a ciztua like atzio^dsie follodig thaae bank

21 MntaM, dsk in Us left fzsk buiper ezaa, dsm raiding

32

cetfeerlas.

22 azozd Us dsel wells, two anesnaa si Us rear.

23
24

mb

zecall,

asking nr. Ffenaa. wall, did ycu cell the agsks

A lot of people oars en the aods. cheyr'n crying to
idsklfy vlctlne, wiDsaaes.

Ttsy'n czying to get the

26 avldsiee, the siavelllmcB c^, sd gat as eud) inforratlon aa

23
24
2S

And because ds

• enblem, four dost, dslc diked

That’s Us Iks 1 111 liii ds ^ve Us police offlcan
Use

of Us zcbbeiy. Md also chat zotfeezy. ycu reeaaber

 1 «8b bid

hi*

1 film chat it

trimi to ^ liaide tlw tartc. Md

at 9:05 in the neesdng. Mil. Che

3 vcu i«cmU thac he muaiLeiiil seeing the tUattec all Aaaeed

3 defsdanc'B cer with Che an nee is regiececad throu^ the an

3 In bladt.

3 teas cn the Tunplke Idcclng the cypnaa Osek coll at 9:30 in

4

In fact, nr. nuitinii identified the aaet ae the oat

4 the BCming. heading in a aojtherly directiot.

5 thee the baik itlter ■■ or ac leeet looldng like the ooet that

S

6 the bank ’'•***■' nore. md he lencRbered thinking to hlneelf,

8 the defsdBt, with hie an !bae, ^ chrou^i the Qoldai OLadee

7 9ah, If t HBB galng to icb a bartt. t ehould be AneMd that

7 toll at 9:47, And as we all Icdw, chi dafwdant lives In

8 wv. all In blade. Little did he Isiow. Mell, ycu'll reoall ha

8 Miami, dddi is oraistenc with him goiiq hens,

9 alao had the 144x11 unity to aee the Maitadea leave that perking

9

10 let and 99 onto Ojmerclal BoilMid.

u

and. Wenfaexe of the Jixey, there aie ocher - - ^ tacw.

Then at $i47 in the emdng, the ddedenc's car and

Notfe cne OBissBic, you MttEd exon tM xvcoxOe naa
10 thee Sit) Ibse diring eoie cf the ochar rttbarlee, and there tas

u

no teeeed of him going througi the Ttsrgdhe cm ehoee other

all the wloaeaea are casiatm in oolcr. ewytody dMcribea

13

rttbaclaa. Bed, you taow, deec dOM chat prove, that juec

it aa a red bur^nV-

U

pejovee chat he didi'c take the Tun^lAa.

14

SE^ticn CO Che rule.

12
13
14

RaiaaiLuj at Udai.

IS

V aonethlng, but none of them had gxcoi very cloae ip.

16

need on -- another intereeciig point actually <zi tide wreedee

16

zeaeoa,

17

la, you recall thac there nee a Siai Mee ai the or.

17

Cefadent'e heading aouttdowd right at Che tine of chat

IS

toCbery.

19

There's aign cdojientary evidence in this case.

18

Jerallne JOtraoi at SoucHEtuet; DUn
&3ie of than thci^^ naybe it «ae an Acuca

IS

A

And ao notf ue're kind of going bade to the aaee

tide lae Che

This is Che oily tiee he cock it, for »hece«r
we dm'C loxw «fy. but tscuOe cbi't lie.

Thei«'a overvhelimng piqeicad evldenoe in chls case.

19

Southiruat retbery, «l you heard

30

I'm ndipannoincliq Ida naie a^ln, taatify that Che reecBde of

20

heve en oppcruidcy Co review QjveniiaiC’e SihUait Nmber 20,

31

Che dBfardM'e 8in nee «>ere pulled, ad oi the aaie dace aa

31

tfddi is a ocnpllacian of all the recelpce fovad sc the

Che SduUIIVubc retcery cn Jauery 23td. 2001, you heard the

23

defardeed'e hone.

33

nctsiaco. ad rm wte

23
34

34

the (ottery hqpaad first thing In the aondog.

25

YCu all will

itey, airhnry, rrr all rf rhM* mnwijra hmw rhe>

date dad's nam rl^ cn there.

of the raoeipte hM —

35 neny ef Che receipts are for cadi purchases, acea are fer

In fact, you oould ei« ne from the aavelllanee

RO

11C7

1

1

oedlt purehaaae. And, you loow, you'll aleo hen* the

After all. we Iracw chK he owe three pe^cpectiee, ad

3 cffxatMlcy to review the eunexy ahaet of it.

3

he's collecting m on two of than. And «4wt is he using to

3

3

sake Che maujeje pe^nsnes? I neai. raybe acme of the rad

4

neney oo«e the iicrtgege peteeaics, but eercalnly they dai't

4

Let ne adc you, car adc ycuraelvee a igaettai. How
nay of you all here oi the jury have nade a single cash

S purdaae of eeventesi tiadred dollars?

5

6

AK. toeS: Objection, Juc^. ^ildai rule.

6

7

•na rrtar.

7

8

MB. HrnMC:

9
10
11
12

Qnratrwi
It'S very incereecing that there are

several niltiple cadi purdaeee nede by the defendant.

And Che

ttare does he heve tds oooey? Kidkn? Mybe he has
it hitUen acrre»*aie in aoie seoet accoid v in the 9xxmd.

8 ThKe is no My to know where it is.

And it's cadi.

Raienber,

9 miLaiB of the jury, «4>K uae scolsi ficm Che bank, vkac

timing of theee cash pjrthasee. for exenple, there'a a

10

rttded fron Che bank is odi.

aewicaen ludbred dollar purehese cn Janiary 26th, 2000, juec

11

purtheeee.

six d^ after the Kisldx rciCeiy.

mb

It's inpesaible co cnce cedt

There la a elicaen Iwdred

12

U (faUar purcheae on ftnoiber let, dudi is ^fsodnecely CMncy

13

He Mm about the pr^ertiee, but

u <^s after the Plrat sauchem I'ifny.

14

Ids lifeecyle, chin^ he likes co d>.

15

IS

to didki odi. ad certainly very difficult, if net inpcasible.

16

to cry co trace it.

17

HE aXKT:

There'S an eleven tinksd dollar purehese on rw.aiil«B

18

18th. juec a few days after the Bank Uuted.

17

all that, you' U Idve the C44xau»dcy to review chat.

m'C 90 ctsou^i
But all

And M dsi' c lodw «AK the detexMit spent it all <m.
m

dai't Mew arching about
But it's oercaialy eaey

YOU Idve fifteen mindaa left.

18

chaaa cash purchases in pracimicy to the bnk rctbttMe. Ibw,

18 M. Mlciad.

19

let'a take a niaiait to talk abcuc mvy.

19

16. ramwi:

20

And OB ocher note on the neney, yoi heard Nelly

30
31

It'a a very intereatlng cr very ixtaual aspect of Ode
esM. in Che sense that there

23 defendnt'B panoi.

wh

no noney foud on the

There «aa no money found in Ids houae.

Ttank you. Wur Itoor.

21 mxle testify chat the defendant reporcad co her chat hie
22 panwds, his ncchar and father, would glM him noney. Aid the

23

23

datedait haa incrtdjced sane reccede of oaeh wiChdraMls, v

74

24

wltlxfeaMls fron Che defadanc's Rocher’e berk aeoamt and the

«■*■!

Itovea

25 First Udon acccucs.

iii e i^e

•

aVvl 1 ftedi

4ea

Bid eurely hs l^pt hie aody noddce.

25 ddandanc's father's bank aoeouK.

 ft

1

Iftll, fizK, Cheze'B no avlitacB tliK tie dafondMC's

1 that la. tbdjeia at the JUry. is {ztsd beyerd a rwawindtin

3 pgw<8
ran CD8C tnnfy. m. 2ccri8 twciftiOT use vs
3 ifttid for verificatiOQ ao to
that loe/ oeie. Ceferiee

2 apucc, #ra H8 88K cist isw yod 9^ tscK crscs M <si usisp.
3 you vote guilty oi aodi and every oanc of the indiccnmc, all

4 nmr prwidad any »ificatlai Uac Chat noiey ceie bon hl6

4 Che taB)k rttbodee, all el^ bank xobbeclae, including the

S pannu. And UJendBe, sore racoada of caah wltMrBtala being

5 four bok ii-i'iej 1— with the addlUcnal charge of ueing the

«

6 9*1.

irada, v4et dsea ttwc prove?

7

Thank ycu.

S to ^paailata «hat the parerca did «Ath chat aney. So «4et <b

6

Tie aUV; Thank ycu. Ml. Hitmi.

»

9

7

teai't [ZDve that they gaM it to him, and yeu'z* ret

M twe at Che <nd cd the d^ At cha ed of the (by, dec «■

od the Jury, that ™cin*ia the cpilng

10 have, Haibara of the Jury, ia proof beyod a rtaatiiBhle doubt.

10 eigmnc cn behalf od the gzcDimt. He're ^liiQ to be in

11 Mch^ (kslng ey — peJi^ cha

u
u

nOHB at this tine for liwh. Me're going to noaea early, ao

13 utiealed dAvq any ct cheae cetbenea.
U

13

Itten we leoanm, ycu'11 be able to hear tion

«aa never pt^eloilly

All the vacnenea caaclfled Che retber neer took off

wa can oore back early.

14 hla nebt. tbftody tea able -- noa of cha cell«a «cre able Co

14 to. HMa cn behalf of the def«McK. So the Jury wlU be

IS Idmfy hiau alchcu^, they «*re abla to eaedt gllnpaea c< hia

IS •Kuaed <mi U:4S.

16 don color and decide abecher It vaa a blade nale a- a lighc

16

17 ftdzmad blade nele at variea poirca. And they were abla to gee

17 to hMT Che azgurent cn behalf of the dafendHit. Thvk ^

16 acne Idea of hia hel^ and his Mel^.
19
ihay never am him. but ha vaa madal. Ha voa

11 )«ry Ruch.
19
yOu nay take the jury out.

30 imaaM cftiruig the search of the heuae, tbidi iMBlad xhac'a

20

[iksy iseaea the eoumooe).

31 really the fuqaiirub in tbla eeee. er the Dft in thla ceee.

21

DC CCUfT: At the clcee of all Che widna. Che

32 Chla dilcc. dddi ia the defendanc'e dorc. diidi is tfas bark

23 maarrmr rensed hia Rile 29 RCtiona for jut^nne od aogiittal

29 iUUjra 8 VUILa LU d ttlA LliiiiCH UU i i >!■■>
ML/.
24
The RBd(, the gm, Che bega. ceedt teoeipcs. the

•ry

25 iftnadM, and all Che dmrms fond in eh* HKoedaa. Mbt

35 tor juf^mc cd aciqnlctal.

34

It ycu'U cone bade at a quarts to «a. we'U yeuueed

AC chac tin, the Cburc reaer^Md ruling on cha noCKn

1

TIC OXST; That will net be allcwed.

2 ji^nnt of aotpiittal of the defnlm, nade pumm to Rile

2

Mi. H3CS: Jix^, is it ycur ruling Chat I n

1

ItiB esure at this tine will daiy the nocioa for

3 29 of the (ftderal Rdes cd Oimlnel Rncedire, <4iid> nction voa

3 pebiUtad fron reading the 23rd mini co the jury?

4 nedi at the clcee cd all the evidence in the oee. as to CbiKs

4

S 1 throudi 13 of Che afecsedliq IndicoietK.

5 think ycu cugb co acand -- t nean. cbdoualy. ycu cn refer to

6

ne CDURT: Hell, ycu cs) refer oo ic, but 1 don't

ey. stefin. ycu have fercy-Od lAnxea lade.

6 It in acgnenc, he ycu dmlCh'C eend

7

m. yuftlN: That will be M. Mltisii.

7 a aataot aboiK the 23rd mirn.

8

H aXKT: cenixi?

8

9

MR. SR3IN: MB. MiCZbll will do Che retuctsl.

10

u

ne OSJtT: di, ycu're going to do Che vtele thing.
ekay. That's fine.

there nd peadi ua

Tb Che esne that it'a a zeleicnt ergjwc, of exurae

9 ycu cn aay Wiacsver yoi <nt.
10

Ml. IOCS: Aid ny client alao, Judge, aaka chac ! be

11

CO i-eii the jury chat he hae a acreng belief in the Oed

13

you have fOrty-cuo adiucaa left.

13 of isnl YWoieh, and Uhc he adi that Yatweh find him not

13

W. MTima: 'Oaik you. Vnar itncr.

13 gjllcy.

14

H<EUcr; diay. Ha'11 be in zeceae fer o« hour.
cBoen].

14

15
16

DC aud: nesoy. W. ttwee?

16 him. la a penaal imccer beewen the two of then, not of ny

17

W. IOCS:

rOa 9XT.

UCaXKT: Hell, you D«y nec (fc chac. Of oouree not.

16 X aen. Wiat to. Kdtaich ny* to YWeeh. s YatMb aay* to

IrSIS 8 A Ca^lS Ot tlBtC8T8 1

18 need to •- I need to do this by

of {zedfer, YOur Hener.

18

Ml. K>B:

l-va triad co oqilain, YQur nnr. Chat 1

19 beeeMa ciMre ara certain mccera Wild) ny cllenc uddiM oe to

19 n In diarge of hla cenporel well-being here in Chia aurezoao.

20 adftraas, and in ezdar Udt I not tei»uil aigjmca chac are

30 nd ctac Wiidaver Od ha pnya co, ha ic YWiwh oc ttd. thn

31 In^tanitiate, I would ask the Out for a pce-atgunt ruling

31 that ia betvBBi chon on a ^izicual level.

33 with reject to certain iratcere.
33
nc OUtC: All II^.
34
W. KWS: ly client asks, in aaeanx. Chet t reed -

32

35 <•11. tlHC t read the 23rd IMln Co Cha jury.

35 ao if I my juac have another nlnjce.

TIE OXST:

I chlik thBt'a W)BC I tried co a«r *

33 idnice ego.
34

Ml. >OCS: And that ia not aceepcable with ny dint.

 11151

1»
7B CORT:

•

9o CO nice ic clear, you can oeatalnly

nter Co the 2lzd Pnlm ut your aigum, but --

4
S

1 please. Madam aerk.

wilft qbwimX]

3
3

MC. >DCS:

Yes. Julge.

hV clisic

teqjesc Uiee I be allaued to md ic.

a specific

M before I adAnased

ChK pwcieuln- sscter ui the p'rietnot eC cbe Jury, I wtisd to

7 adbeae it wLch Che CCutx so chac Chare is no
8

U

oi che

2

(ivy

3

HE (zucr;

4

Warbei'9 of che Jury, you'we heard Che opening aigutaa

S

I have Cold him chac t ea«m. qjoce Salpcute verbeUst

Be aeaceil. please.

CD behalf cd — che waning of che closing arguianca on behalf
Ne'll now hear fran ». ibnae. vto will

7 ar^a to you oi behalf of che defmdm.
Ht. KlCS:

9 Ouieel.
10

CO Che Jury, chac chac ia not ai anrtiasble argjianc Co saha.

tfas conOwi e

6 o< Che Uiiced scaesa.

8

pare of ny cU«nc chec I did noc —

9

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ifcy ic please the CCurt, Ycur ibEar.

Oxd afcemxci, ladies and ganclsm.
It «ea try toner aad privilege Co be salad Co rqamssnc

U And I ban cold him chac I oeuld adCbreaa eertain cC those

U •E. Hdttelth. sd ic la iiy hors ad ladvilega Co be able to

U

U

acand befon you coday co pjtsaatt, an arguns- oi hla behalf

U

with reepecC Co vhac we feel che cvidme ehowa, ad Hat we

Jnd t

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feel the 9'ldmoe <tae noc ehew.

IS han cold him 1 can deal with thoae icactara ea tar as ic la

IS

16 pmneaJ tdehln the evldnoe.

16

argurnc, a 1 would ask chac dan I oaiplece ny aigjmc and

17

HE OSUCT:

That'S uLsreuL.

17

the gcivBuiiBi. [aeams its tdimtal to ny argmenca, chac ycu

18

m. >OES:

And that 1 will <k>.

18

thiric about whac I'm aqrlng co you now, becaaa 1 dot't have a

19

HE aUCT:

Oca/.

19

dianoe co mwer them, sd Chink to youreelves about dac I

30

HI. HMSS:

la Chen aiychins else, tfr. Htteich.

iaauM.

u
14

Then’s am ocher isaue chac ny client wstase na to
sdEbrsae, «4dch ^ala <dth his aiplayiBic badqccuod.

Vary ^xd.

And I would Buggeet co you chac ttai I ooiplece

30 tnlghc uv in reqpcnse to chaee argvnents.

31 baCcae I oi begin ny argumc?

21

Osarally apedong in a caaa like this, I begin

23

HE ESBOtiT;

23

talking about che Curdsi of proof and che preautpeion of

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HL lOSS:

23

imeoaree, ard i go c>«oc^ with che jury so that it la one of

24

che lasc ehlnge chat 1 have you hMr, chac i haw osicrol c««r.

2S

che rsdndar Co you of your cbUgatlon aa jurors in this caee.

34

tb.

Your l&nr, <n chac note. Cheo I'm

to {EOOOSd*

3S

TIB CDUV:

All cl^.

Muld you kvihg in cha Jury,

»4a»^

iifis

1
3

1

tni/ tines peepde ask re how do I feel stnm a

awem CO da.

situKln, how <b I feel abocs repreasnUng a pirtiailT

3

BRSuae you suae be pec those pimDaEelwd tmliefs.

3

dim, how can I lYpenfnt certain purple in certain

3

these feallnge, chose ideas, cha faAcriclsn stae of ^ have

4

cimaacases.

4

Ccr the Uiiversicy of HUnd er the Ituwrsicy cf Plorlda,

S HlCh chan.
6

And I have no prcblsn anawerlng cfaoee q^macions

And i have no (acblan. if wa me in a diacuMioi,

6 And 1 uBually Emd a loc cf cina calking afacuc Cha fact ttac

■laisiring tlnae qjesciaa with ycu.

7

7 ny dim is presuiad co be ImaoahC. sd ctac chac

But 1 cry CO cell people chac ic'e really noc

8

iapntm itec try feelings aae. and ic'a really noc inpoRsne

9

tew 1 feel about scnechlng,

10 an oerceinly noc che jury.
U
12

ehU case.

I an not the judge, and I
You are the judge# of che facte in

And as, charafon, I an alw^a eefaei'iied wich how

you perceive things ad how you begin Uue tncize pcooMe.

U

S dacever ic ia, out of your miid dm you ^ade thla case.

MS all have jze^udlcee, cne of our paac {naidaxa

14

naiad Budi dlA’C Ids tacocoU.

IS

fecner pcealdenc Buah is prejudiced a^lnst teccooli.

16

cMy.

17

lopoRsnc for co you ramber chac vSisn you cone

i 113m broecoU.

Wbody's aaklng you co eac Uumili.

i fasl chac
Thec's

9
10

chat

Thac

now. ac the bagmiing cf che cnsl, sd

mil che trial is o«r, that nasjnA.iiji stays with Che

11 defsdanc not mil you believe ChK he's galley, noc mil,
12

vBll. you todw he's galley, noc mil you think ha'a gullcy. er

U

chac he's pscbably goilcy.

14

[rave co ycu chac ha la 9iilcy.

15

scandard.

16

But ic is

iwsib

8 you aa jurors nuac believe him ce be innocezC.

Noc mil he is guilty, mil they
DM. chac is a diffaranc

And dac W. Miczsii did with you today «as vary

17

subtly and vary effectively cry to reAoe che hLsdsi chac ds

U ODoaocm in noac Inscsncea you' re going co feel in your ndnd,

18

has with m>iT co ctua case.

19

19

series cf vsya in diich it cccurxed.

30

the aeare caetiea chac were pi’esmsl in che gowiiiisiL's

this

CO aoie degree deep inalde, ^ Imow, chare's acme I'esaai Hy

30 we're here.
21

Saieching had co have hEPsned for us co be here.

And

I hsve placed before you

21

22

che ^emienc hea Co hane scnechlng, or thee cm wouldi'C be

23

23

•leting nm then,

23

chcae axe faces of che caae.

24

end you Ctdrfc sbouc your oech, if yoi allow chec to go etch you

24

cf cha alaimea.

2S

after you hew etcen chec oech, you are vlolacing «bac you have

35

ad you imow vbec. vtMO you chink chR.

Baomse — well, chse wne a

The scary Intimdaciai, the yelling sd mesalng.
Thoaa are che fseca, chat's os

But dm it ia i^eas AuJ in a amiar vfddt

CO ycur a>ctlaa, ic cakea sm fron ytas ARadad

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1 tittJMd. ti^njulliOid, cb]«ecM viav et tte tacu «8>idt you
3 M jum oust hm In ^tezndning Chls ose.

)

And chaE'a oaiBChlng you need CO MKch out fcr. 9b

4

to ycu about dlzecc and drcunatantlel <Mdence and aaye

1 you're going to aa cha chair dzcuiecaaa te*c aacdi igi.
2
And (tBC they Mttc you co do is cake at blind faith
3 that dBC they preamted co you is, in fact, vfiac they need to
4 do. (fee CO

aoieching co you, tax to oaMnee you cC

S tbece'e no dUfecsEe beowan how the two ahculd be craated.

S aaiechlng. And you aa, I auggeec that then's a diffsmee

6 Jnd t agree that that'a «4tac the la> is. Then's a diftaBoe

6 beoegi yauuf. Thoa chin^ tdildi you tiould trtBeitetingly

7 I auggaec co ^ in boa it nuac be omldeced.

7 rely on in cha net serious of ^ur daily affaire, in the neat

8

8 aerioua meters of your life.

The dllteenee la, if It la a chain of dieumcBEae,

9 chK dain is no atiaiger chan its <«ealwac link. And than chK

9

teuld you buy a hose tdehout gacting it ceeced co

10 ■eataec link txeata. Che «cize chain is Izutei. Think about

10 ■ala sure the roof didvc leek? Ho. ibild yxi gee nerrled.

U Che tiTniriiTil i>1 tis in the oovle dangling by the wize omr the
13 Bich of Che cliff. And ae cha accioi aovie gaa oi nl at a

11 have diilcfea. gee divorced, todd you hM etogary tdeheue a
12 aaoond ijpinion? Mbd ycu gee to choa kinta of daosioB, you

U little talc acre beeaka and a liccle bdc me Ueake.

U aa. ycu ca't ]tac rely t^ot a atguiimt ad. toll, you taw.

14

14 it's gx Co be. to get you co cte level of ptocf that you have

16 lead t4p Che tope ard gees beck to aafecy, chat diain ia bxksi,

U to hat*.
16
Kr «Dcanple, the gsvemnenc oacatrata oi cne of

lew ChK diain finally taoaka and that bus
at
15 <bn Che cliff, and Steve Sa^ or Kcetnr it la cakaa the lady

17 cha goMznm'a eaae ia tccMtn, and the gMuiwiL'a caae is
18 om at Uac point. I»r»e,iaa they have pt£ this ease ee you

17 chra prepertia that the defodanc owiad. to the CDeluaioi of

1» a^ierely in an all oc nothing Fceitim.

19 They ^ that ivviMi they tenc to direct yota: acociai oily co

30

30 chac pMTinii»r houa, becaua ctat'a Mere they ^ aate icos

They have said co you clearly aad tfwbAgMualy in

18 tba ocher no and the hoiBe Man hie regiecered zesidsnoe vae.

31 Cheir azgjtencs and in their iMeeaiLaLiiii clat chan's one and

21 cha they rrptBr co you (so* che defendoc' a guile.

33 cnly cne pereoi chat is leKneible fer Chla caae. So t

22

33 au9BMt CO you chat

23 alita of things,

^ begin co cunlchr the

Hell, lec'a cum riac tJBec o*r and look a Che ocher
tc la'c gdee cha sinple, BeoBBe you aa I

34 euamcanoas, ChiiqB like lefc-baxkd zottoca, n^>handad

34 rwwir the tordi Mae beck zdben toed co hM loce of buUaca.

35 zeitaa, jeeelzy on left hand, jweliy oi rl^ hod. Chat

28 X dBlloge eadi of you individBlly ad q>llaetlv*Iy to

nTrt
1 fiwiiei a single inecose ehoi a single shoe mb fixed in this

1

3 CMS.

3 Jury, I vac Co read to you che vBidicc form in this caa. The

3

I dBllsqe the jaiiieiriiBK Co geeaant Co you ay

they case ue pcobloiB. Ladia ad gacloen of che

3 Italted sceca E&sCzcct Che Scuchem Platnet of FToridi. Ome

4 pnof, «d cheir tin fa cfauig chat ie doe, Chat aicha cf

4 Mnba oi-609S-ai-<BBalez, Uiiced scaea cf Aeerice Mraue

5 chaa 1 egena were aed in aay tey. ih^va gx a aa choc ca

S Milberc Hdtreich, (tafodoc.

6 cry CO find the Hinelayee cn itanue, ad they dai't eva aak

6

7 him, they dcn'C even aak him co Cry to aa if he ca flid
8 tdachar or noc as ^ chaa oould haw faea a got tod in chea

8 back there Obc eaye Uiiced SCaCa of Anerlca veceue Cue itan
9 Hjeea diizc, occie large, kncwi a Ostoimne'a MilMc MntBT

9 ccttela.
10

Verdict. And cha ic pcooaeda. if you ga a
7 diKgmtf vardlcc feem cha this, if you ga a Midicc feem

I soietiRes doi'C vent co ttk ny glrlfclod if 9b

10 11, and ycu vox co ebedt guilty oi cha mrUcc farm, chedi ie

U gill lovea ne «tei Oe's nod u ae, tecia,Be I'm eftald of the

11 to your heaic'a coxenc- This ahirt is not on tiTsl.

13 aneMT I'll get. That's enccly vhac ms cha alcuatioi hare.

13

Tha mn, this tirran being nefx here, Hilbert

13 TlBy Mnc you co acogc oi blind faith vhat they tail net
M pceaoc CO a place itee they bat*, to a ceaoMoa Owe this

la 4JJ LliAi.

U flfcy

NX A slLl* .

IOC LH ft iUUlQJ 4IIbI

noc in atsveillaca Ma theyr*re Iceklng

19 gotloa Moria, ad he ia a gancienen, Oere this gaclam

19 tahlm. ttx a ay cim eba they <ot have a pecaon oefaer

16 tola, doe le taa etoy auchoricy to hn* chU9 itee.

16 cioi Oily wrcls, ad i'll ga co ally Muna in a miiice.

17

17

They toi'c taeeae the evldaree that they're acting

Ib OB Mo apeaks to you tdCh oedibilicy ca say co

18 you -- theyte arguing co you to beliet* is uasd or oould hB*

18 you ctBC NUboc hO&eith toe che oa in tha dilrc a che elm

1$ bon used in the zctberla. They von’c preonc it fer

19

20 cnpalaoi. They te'c «ait to )SKtir.

30 beiiq vom fer eht tcbtaarles. tb ob, to parotaraa a ruraezy

31

i don't Mnc Co tam.

tea like cha oppaalte of the chza mioe, hear noc evil, ea no

U£ Siy UL UJft ftSVCftl

xCIxJBLIgB

LUttL nt. AAIAL

BSyJI

31 zt^im, all tha king's hccoa ad all the king's nn ca't put

33 evil, gait no evil, they ±n'c tax Co loo>. CCn'C tell a, I

22 tlBC Oirc a Hilbecc HdtteiCb'a bade. They <a)'c cb ic. Th^

23 don't Mnt to taw, I luec really don't Mnc to taw.

23 oaroc <b it.

34

34

t aatcaoe chle Oixe. Sotaciraa m « ootnal n*

25 aoeaed of avoiding CBcCain things chat on avidooe in a oaa

tbc oU.y ca they oec do 1C, they did nec d» ic. They

29 didi'C ewa cry co ^ ic. T}»c leavw ua oily tdeh Kelly

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1 Mmo. Ifcat doas Kslly rttru ea/l Itac <faaa Ae eay to

1 going co find a roee In toe. if you kMp gectlng dowi che

2 Agsic UmIs In MiA of last ^sr, rot « yvsr cr as later

2 am phocoe time and again, if you keep tsUcing dnut che Mna

3 Hilbnt'B Icet acme weight m^be end Me akln'a a little

3 phocoe time and again, if you get together dd you nsec about

4 llghtar Chen it xae before; xhat tbae aha aay to him than? It

4 che eana thing cine and again, ic netotarUy beoaiee lodced in

5 ta*a like It could be.

S

C

6 wto 1C is.

tten doea ahe aay it for the fine time? TO you fine

7 Colke. Kw, 1 uaad to hM a lot of

7

with aenaching

And iC la ChK reaffineciai of Che cccrecoaei of

t called Che etoddBln a^dcaie, and it' a really the qfCBlce of

8 dac ic la chat i

»

9 1st oa give you tha emple of che beat of ■ - of <oe ot che

that Chat aniHwi hen. The BCodcholn e^itaaiB, as i

10 inteatand it. is that aoretlnea «8en captives an held loig

u

has axurred In chla caee.

10 beat of che wtcDeaeas in this parciojlar Inecaaoe. Ms a yoimg
U BNi do W. MLcmi duki'c ntoioi In to tkiadia. I don't

enoo^ they devel^ed a bad s a tie with thalr eeptan

12 KluVa 1 ujuiu c^i {dm JQ'iy
(puBLic). diL ui! )mtjB
13 blade gntlon chat had the aiorc kind of curly heir thee

12 bacue they went to have chat cui action and that bend.
13

co you

They need acnething, they'n In a bad ^poC. «

14 ■cnetlnee they bod with their ct^pcera. taccy Hearse la m
IS aeaiple of clat. 1 gjeaa the cRcalea of that la the. i vane

14 caatlfled, wto ms che cnly oo fion che cm bank.

16 to be part ct ebe teen, eyndroie. And I at^Beat to you ChK

16 ikdi Ifr li n of him being Arabiai. Haienbar I adeed him a

17 that, 1 vaA CO be pare of che Cean syndcoie, hae peneaced

17 '■■■■pi* of Usee, he tod Artom, Areblan, Arabian. MU, he

U chla cnal.
19
And a^ln, ! mbe Co nsla Ic claar, I da noc caec

19 MW a bltoc im sitting over there, dd he vanes co gK it

20 ^eraiena to Nr. Stefin. eo 1%. Mlciaii. do are boch fine

20 toe. he wns to gee It over, so Arabto la now egdl In his

21 taueuLULLMu. to ir. UHia do la an ewellvc agm do hae

21 oded to blo^.
22
BaceuM Ic IS che easy «ay oo gK it toe, ic la the

22 tedad this ceae.

IS

Ha ceetlfled chat it ms a blade nala. But he gave a

18 Mye Ardilan, Arabto, Arabto. fae'a alccing here In coitc, he

I'tn calking abouc a ms fisdsnsoal thing

23 else I'm addng you to uae your cunui mas on.
24
If ice a rcee, and ycu'n locking tor a toee and you

23 awy My CD to It CA of the My. And I ntdc adtow

2S «KC CO aee a loee, ad you keep locking loB acu^, ^'n

2S oemms ChK M. Kitzto eede with ntftK eo Nr. Mrlae, the

24 M. PkrlsB. beckuM 1 reerfrrftiny dlsacpw with toik of Che

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1 ana do celled twice che ganiua do dialed 9U. Rar etoae of

1 ten Cio Rze iNdacdale PoUoa nparenane, trained read petrol

2 you do latch ^xxcing evvica, aaieciiKa you'll hear che

2 OfflOKB ••

3 anneuKer aay. cch. he really fliiCbed that plsy, he tUAi’C

3

4 eacdi

4 which wiHw of che houw che )dcd»'a en no years Isck.

paae. lec'a aee if he' U oka ip to ic lato la the

Ybu aw r~T'“ today do caie in and oould iliai'i'lhe

5 ■■an, Chla

S
6

nr. Fariaa la che gailue. co use

Mloml'e earn,

7 do nade Che 9U call oi the pton. on tha apaakar pine. She
• actrlhuced to W. Ftalae che etacansnc that he aaw the
9 ddendanc gee in che car. «d l aiogMC co ^ chat de’e

I

Ciaa Ikde COtoy oanas in and can do Cto.

6 Ce you think cheae pecple ore going co toto aomeelUJig, d«C

7 he called che tous fleh. to iK'a }idC caU ic che fld>
8 aynbol Co neke it slnple.
9

CD you Chirk tto If te voutd hove said ChK co Chow

10 imacdei. you hav« co rely oi your can nsncey, to if you

10 Qaepla, do you chirk if he vould hav* wld it co a trained m

11 raeall Nr. FSrlaa wee che oo do beeane a liccle troubled by

u agkft in a rctoeiy agjad do he calked co thK day. do you

u

ny Mninaclai of him, do adnitbed thac it could well hen

12 really believe thK chey would be all, all, be n inunpeUnt

13 bean thac cbe ictber lurped che wall behind the berk end wait

13 ChK chey would le»e ic ouc?

14 owr che fence, and thac he asa che beg aeeklng bdiLid Che or

14

IS clac wee leaving.

IS hove Md to a touddom. sd now in the. I ma co do> ycu

U

16 I'm A ctk tton. saw CIOs. M. Fhclw rade cn octo cobma

17 IOC he

dd eo you're ^ing co hew to ddenwne dacher
ae M. Mexsni eaid. Chat he ear che uiiac gee

18 Into Che car cr not. Buc I think Chat you'll all recall thac I

cr ^ you believe ChK he dicpped tto paw he dnild

17 which I fond IrongiliB- Ihe lac^ tea UCvto*/' Andrea
18 Mnemdea l believe wee to name, to had « a yellow erp ad

19 got him CO adntc he duki' c see che robber gee In che cer. he

19 toMi panes, desAibed cbe lAber as bigger chan to.

20 saw Che car leave. Ik eald he cold oo pecple. Har. chink

20

21 abto cue.
22
This Is In a earlaa at rtCfcarlae that the gcwuiidic

21 Che cn helping everybody else to in the rottey.

kk MB Buaied co deach. Nr. Mrlae ato to's
ic's

22 imeciRlng chK he eeye he cold eerytody alM he's ]eklhg

eamtody with a jeaue flKi a Che back rctblng che bak.

23 Igait checrizee la being connucced by a peracn. And they're

23

24 gectlng deearipciaa of vehlclee. ad they're dlfferept, but

24 cto nAoi^, netedy else ten chK bak, wee called by Cha

29 they're all bur^n^. Think abto ic. Are cxaiaed deceecivea

2S tovnMK. afeer his sediMll^ mb eaUad lAO goerirn. n

 4

1

irtcnaM can't awen eay. doeat'c aon lonw that chars la soths

2 OD, thla nm, aa liiewiait a» ic w at Cfae tloe. 18 rtaklag

2

coll hooch before the edc that yoi gat off to 90 to his bouM.

3

3

Of couree netaedy'a bothered to cell >cu that Che Cinee natch

4

if>.

1 •a/ to you. M eeatf m it ¥M,

to c< thl* cor.

4
S

*■ tMogi tmem goiiq

m

to't >Qu chlric ttaot aoKbov «cuid hm hwid it if
It wa aald? Of oouzaa, )w Iodm, «e' ze all nally Jiaplng tbe

tbbody' a 9"

a cs axl tblwi Croa chs iiUjsy acana

5 s s abac ths tine of <by, that Une of yes whm the

C gxi then on)M/, eojaa the pai, hfraaie nctot^ mer nelly

6

traffic pscecn'a the aas In the laac nc yeaia, ail driven It

•7

7

to aaa if It wcka.

8

at^ that the retta 90c into the cer.

So they're tiaklflg tbe

aaauipUai nl theyn wantliq ycu to acoqit that oaauiptloi ae

u

10

the altuotlai becauae It tothezs their cheery.

U

tbw. let tie 9l>« you another eoepla.
taUoad CO you about the to teaa.

M. wemi

I Im the llccla thtrioe.

ban toaez Oeek to Oolto iTiwa— jn chs kind ot tine, and

U

we^ yoi get to that ixiiiicu eenee la to throw all of youra out

14

Che wdndow.

It'a a steal little thing,

IS

tiafcande and «Avea, trlenda and nel^ttce, in-laue otd ax-lae

IS

le

canuoalt.

16

17

acldc <ath ne here.

Mec'a the Qomzim'a cheezy cn thla ena? ion.

The

■■■»■■■ here.

19 Boulevard or aaiedsn oi caklad.

He ssea to Oakland Mck
He sxa peat the Interocace

it nd^ be Icglcal tar ycu to aay, yeab. we can poxbably gS

ths'e e oamm eenee kind cf CMnk.

acre chei oa peraoi cst uee It.

It'a node in eueh a nay thtt

be uuiiiui eaaa, and

12

14

tee oede to be noblle, ao chat

That

U

u

u

NcbBdy'a told you to long It C^caa to get oi Che

9 Tbmpllaa frem here to there.

9 ttat la a fact In cedar Co eatobllah «>hac they ballaue to be
U

8

as. ^ loow. the oily

Becauae you'we gz to hew bouefz into thla theory
tbs euieim the 'ri>—• wteewer It laa In tbs caoe, poaoee

17

cuo ae)s loaik godig aazh. oorato ^aa nccch, adpa an

18

a'Ziaee to the Incsacace where he can gs on. goea turchs --

19 at Che TUmpUe, goes furths ifi and gats on uhere he'a not

20

aaiehow.

ik'a got to go noth to Atlantic, uhldi ia In

20 going to gat hit going acuth, s chat ha gets hit In Cypress

21

topaiD.

Thla a^ CBcenut Creek, to really thla la iztobly

21

23 Atlantic
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34

here.

He'a gx to 9> peat, he'a got to go peat

the Intaratata, peat IJBI, go mth to g> wet to go atob to
fit their pattern.

2S

And you Idbh d«t. aa l9«ly aa thla ia. thalr aqAEt

Qeek ao he m go down thoe.

23

But yet, «4an he'a within alnos al^ S Iblwetaiey

23

sd BCDuaid In the

34

S9sandgsen7Saadg>tbe sna lay idan he's

tok rettay, idare he cai }uip oi

3$ idn he's oi chs aide cf con, ckaat'C haipan.

chse.
Mac does chs

*M7«

*nT7

1

fn you?

2

1 done pccpsly,

It tella you thla ifaai't help than at all.

I'a alao croUaled by tha fact chat «a cai'c find it oi

3

ia« yt was all nduad cogsebs.

And hse again, if you wsz to put this Milxt oi

3

3 MUbecc HdCrelth's beck, do whs Agaz Sags's only heard Sxut

4 Md that kind of brin^ tie to Agto Sager and the tale cf the

4 cn TV, ces It fer DA.

S

S

inkcscandlng. oths chai In the ainplas of cane, to Che

6 newer lna<. to it la that theae cuo «acc±ee gx pc in one

6

slaple fact of the neccs la. la chs there's aaqile parts of

7 bag.

7

CMo Mcebea.

1 don't lm> and ^ <bi't tasw, and «e alll

Agatb Sags', auourding to the invsKsy froii Agax lada.

8

8 ^ue him one vetch.
9

The jjweiiiiiaiL'B Introduced three.

He know fton AgsX

It's certainly beyond ny

to see If it wee wcei by S. Hdbelch.

9

Of courae, even If they did chs, they've gx soths

10 Lowla' lapjt that he fllle out that die watdi was caksi tian

10

U

tha defntot.

U gets ue bade to the little Chiig, ramtas whs Holly torls

12

the two dark bonds that are in axe of theee pleturee.

i gueea they snt you to think ths thaaa are

13

adc.

14

Suagge to do ai^thlng wdth thla.

to't.

15

to't.

ttatews you do, to't adc S. toto

Do not aek him, becauae Od fcrtld he does't glw you
the mus chat you want to hear.

17

training, he haa the tedmology, ha haa the •garciaa.

18

toi'C aak.

19

ms.

31
23

to't aek.

Ife haa the akill, he haa the

says, ch, HUbart alw^a use a plaid ahlrc.

And chs

Mat did the

agont aay? The agaz aaid chs'a rat uhs ahe said <fn I
caUoed to hs oi tha 19th. T-Mdita «d blade pants.

15

9a UBZS to help,

16 wszing CO nSe

is aha uaizing to

cmt,

la Ma

for nx gscing the eenfirnecim chs Ma

Bs

17

ma»1i~

Beesae you Jiac im^ not like the

18

here's a gcueiiiiaz eiployee whose Seeing wdth m m agaz

19

who aaya. I'm invesigacing Hilbert HdttelCh for tank rcttalaa

30

and 1 want you to look s aaie pictures.

to. that aeie Agent Sager'a the sa, you leoogilre

thla welting s being youra ai choc bag?

tb.

Baoogtoe the blue writing oi thla cna
slCb^ NO.

u
u
14

16

20

Don't

little pccblen, they've got to pme it ths day.

m

being your

N>lt a ndnuce. ^C, wait, vale, acziy, I ik>.

23

now I reoogilae it.

24

iMdi la idito and ibidi

naae ate ao now aoeeal
chib

nctoV Icoa

£cob whse, then the czlal

2$ ocarced. lac alone wdat limn ail slginBlly, ha»ae It won't

21

la ahe wazii^ to help do soiechlng? Thliik obowz it,

luodo) like him.

9a'a loddng s this ^czo. to whs tos ahe tall

23

hlns •hers T-Slrta. blade paza.

33

oiasz about the fact cto soia of the wdaHaBae tasiflert

34

ohouc T-etalzta indsneath.

to, M. Hltrani nada

nu're going bo hare to really.

35 really, really dallsige yoz racollaeciai to see if you recall

 *

1

1

chac, cr li chK could h»e been
of the ocher wltneaeee
2 thee ««ce at theee benk rcbberlM chK the ^<mrant diOi'C
3 call.

phoCcgnpbs again. YQu hear the agsK aay he nee wlch her evo
3 or chne elms co dlahxs these neccers.
3
9o chat is, chat ie their only, only vdenees that say*

4

4

But )ou' xe roc l itj>' c Chirk 90ln3 Co haw Co laieiljai

S vary bMk co jaweidey or the day Ijefcae

I aikul hgax

etac he's the oa in chac photo.

Noe. vtai you censidM time.

S

I

the face that you have a iiiiMiiiirilii da*c.

t)at you hsve s dbde, cr that Chen ia a doXc about

6

l0tis about «tiec M. Nxrls said oi the 19Ch of Mcdi of leec

6

7

year «4n ris (fcen't imcim the thing that the ^vennaK's

7 My oi you aoc^x Che vente of MUy Harris about dec ens

8

CDClia caae la hinged oi, thia Mrc.

8

Itoa, Chia ia not a

9 ■BCCer of aaiencica. Thia ia a nactar ct eorde, of plainly
10 <4iat MB eaid.
U
12

In ocher toede. no

incident.

9

and you know vfiac'e ao finiy about it?

If ebe's

10 Mncing co iTnaTllri him, ad chey*n dole thing ia,

ttwe did ehe aey?

U

£to did IOC Bay Hilbect alMyB taara plaid diizca.
T-ahirca and blade pence, chat'e «hat aha aaid.

12 evldaice.

doee it

this

is a piccun, vt^ daft they dow her the videas? ihqr'n in
They'va got chan, they're ti^ hen.

let her lock

13

at Che videcs.

14

about novarant and nocgiitien. as the goMxnmt calls ic,

15 of Che goevmenc, and to the deccum of the defndBic, but

15

ceosgiiticn vervue idmtificatlaia, lee's lock ac the

16

16

noogiitiai fer MUy Krris.

U

diange nai?

14

is Chet her ceetiidiy hea changed,

CD »e evoi care ohac her

hdCIm

ia?

Ihe fact ia,

ic'a changed co the benefit

iC'a dianged.

17

IC'B diBqed fme ahsi it «aa freah in hs* mind, froe

17

If the dole chink la, ia they wen calking

Give her the chvoe co do it.

Rr gjuidse eakes.

16

abo< her this paccun.

19 oi tbe — tkirtaB- 12 had oi jme iii iley <dch the fine peiis in ic

19

to her.

20 ad the imltlple eczipea. and acne of you ed^ be able co

20

their closing, ao you hsM aoie ides of d«C I vould toy co

31

21 diet is about to cone that I'm not going to have the dwee to

IB

iBbi

«e can laiaibet atut type of aulpe ahlit the laec yucor

mnenter

33
23
34

Boratedy bIbb had

23

iC'a ctanged fxon yeecaxeky, chac Ma l«cch 19th.

ao> hs this picture,

aiowthaaall

They dart do it. Now. I'm glMn ^ ny rebuttal co

leepad to.

3001, to tm-MiTi- 14th. 2003, after ahe’a atowl theee pictiiree

23

hei« in the oeurtxoae. after da’a net wich the gewemeent

34 non dlnoc uaii about v4ac I euggest co ^ the svldwoe
35

3S befae, ad afev die'a had the denoa to iwlaw the

Ad now I'd like to 'vUnv you for a few names in a

f»ii« CO den in this nae with xcdpsec co the guile of -- the

11R1

1

[ecaf of the guilt of the defendant Hilbaxc HdOelch. Jedde

1 (i4^ have ben Blender there.

2

SLveis is on eev«x«l cinee ehom ftxstagraiim of a ear.

3

3

She

3

never pldis out Che car.

4

She aav* the idnba se claer tdndeui.

uUdoa

5 m HdOeith'B oar are elaerly tirced, ate ik^ily tinted.

a»

Ad ha put on fercy yeets in ehe pnoees, too, you
Am. in el^xesi rmths.

93ie of us heve Und hml in

4 el^KSdi imche. but it's kind of herd to put <n omey
5 eelender y«ers in el^xaen eoeeba.

ax thee one. you see, la

6 ^B the nen'B veering a blue aeacer ad hee deck vavy hair.

5

7

ad the ictbary ooeun ac 3 o’clodc.

7 beginning of the dain, the second link Uedie it.

8

beginung of the dain, let's get co thB naet lock. Cur oeget

9

lock ia 1%. RXiln Yablonky. aew the tear of vhac locks Ida a

Miv. If thec’B the

cte one ChK daen't fit the pactern diyway.

8
9

So if chac's Che

Bacmae, na'ex Necia Krales ikav i Il~n1 Che blade nala
ae having - - you were the clceeec cue in akin coa.

Sylvia

10 ttecedes, no no encanaa. no fidi.

10 OlMC says she saw acnebX^ pull the raek ^«i over his laoe.

U

U

ad the eyes en ths nsde wee ezooked.

13

M'U get to the lady later da aaye chac it locked UM thst'a

suggest to you. ladies end gentlanai. that if the Udtad Statee

13

the My the iresk vaa.

14

of AiecicB can go to the ttctble, tine, and effort to have

14

15

aaiBje epad bo hrdred heun pcqierlng all theee venderful

15

the last tank rotbery, Me. Raiearoo:), try aa thay my, cry ••

darts ad dia^m ad oonpaetsdis that they heve, tbey can

16

ehay ml^, they did their best co get her to talk about he

17

epend bcncy nancee ailing the ferner oner of thee car co

17

lifted Uac raek aojgh so that abe could see asiechlng

U

find oic MechM or not chat fidi aynbol

U isdenaath there.

13
13

16

Md agent lews trial to aay. vail, chat's eaaunino
Chat the flah

mb oi

then fion betaehad.

ms

MU, let oe

di the bade cf it;

19 OQUldi'C they?

19

20

20

tfeuldi'c cake then loq. eheyn ^ the oertifiad

21 lecEKde, they've gx the du-uiaas hen.
22 iiAdK K3C vane co Mm.
23

Cdi'C CsU ne, l

fiebln Yeblndv deernhwl the zdter

in chac caae aa being in his lace cvaKiM and elander.

34 siadsr.

Mu. i Idow the gaveiarrant's going co My, vaU,

35 M. Mdtteith Ma putting on vai^ dinng this Ue«, and ao he

This is not the laC^,

Ad if you raiarber the last lady thee caaclfied at

leaUy

9a Mnted co gee out ei hen, da new

them vbat they iccced, right?
tan's the pxblon with that,

you

an. the prebdem

21 with tiat is, is that they're trying as hard as ch^ Odi chan.
22 Sij Ucy MBiL CO ]p9u.« nrasQBB wiiigi, i
wsb 6*^
23 last Mne is.
da says the bnk rotXer in chat case has
24 on DO eyeholes In a asde.

HeU, you'M aaai m poking chose

35 asdis aroud hsn Ing an^.

I’d put it di. tix it vould

 •

1 raw

iiv glwwB.

1

regpecc co nr. Farlaa is. U chac d« he had co read chK

You find

3

z^m chat he Hcoce, thank Qocdnwe che pne tece tmr Chen

3

nouth piece In thaw ra^a.

I dare you.

3

and he dldn' c haw rae with him dm I had eede him read that

4 about that l«. 11 U«c lady ifnt «4nii they tiii9 chair scica

4

r^earc d«ra ic daan'c nnem nycfaUq abouC dm ha eaye he

S

<i4»nr4Hr«r<^ ot Che detextec'a or, her lecoUaecien ia ao

5

aw n che ladt of that ear.

«

good, and 11 that wa Che peram. if chat aould hew ben the

6

3

1 dare you.

ac you )maw Wvc. you tm< tivc'a ao incweating

Qairtney Pleldi wa the an'a fwae ac Bnk ttlted de

7 twBLu chac kould haw dm ic. M'd haw had about Dwcy

7

kape e^lrg he ditt'c teoall sv holw in the aedt, ttc he ime

•

8

aaying the aen xaa Arabian, taeta&n, Arabin. and dm unea in

cnBcosiiciee eo aw aaiechlng ahlny In hia nouch.

9

9 hen and aaya a bladt aele.

Jmd t4iac do w haw? No caaclneny on ic fcon Chla

That we dio 1 we referrliq co

10 aarllar ia ODurcncy Pialde.

10

wlcneaa ecanS.

u

ui ciiuiiBUiuii.

13

Biren Hsnaeay Chinka ic'a n oldar TOyoca, • long blade 9A.

12

lifted, and calks about che an belrp taller. And you'w sen

13

HBimUa ktaC I told you at Che begUning, idiac I had

13

nr. Hdttelch w he aeoed tp eedi tins zeapeccfully w ^'w

tac you. «4at; 1 «w railing araze cactira? Long bladi gin.

14

cote UI, and you on daeida en ^u: oto Mtaectm cr net he'a

It'S ranainly roc cheae cuo.

15

cellar,

18

Che (tay cf the an eat. so you cn aw Mhecber or not he'a

la WDClm.

17

omldKed a pale bladt nen.

be wmng co acgia co you that IC'a Chla gin

18

14
IS
IS

Ww do «as have? mxher Cewk in chac chain

there

ibat’a «4v I «wicad you co begin Mich cambering utac

17 you'w got CO put aaida, «4tidi is eynpaciv,
18

u

rUtL djuUieiu Btiik'v Uja Utiiu itluuy.

HW, they

19 with cbe red dye oi ic.

The is^lsn ia. the cep of iC'a acael.

you'w

pc the plccuree here of tun ac ra about--cn

There'a prlma lifted, buc no mKdi, nd there's no

19 gn.

YOU dsw. che licanetlng chUg abop ctm la. la chac

30 noeber break in Che diain d ciroiiacaneaa. Janebs cl their

20

31

31 nd Flzeecra and the FBI tim on ccece pn.

laalaMt ItiicB.

I've alraat^ talked to you abac the —

chsyw got pne. nd they hew che Buceai of Aleohol. Tttaooo

33

Do you read acne wear ee'an?

32

33

(3^.

23 HLlhert N3«eich.

34
25

I'w already calked CO you about Mdne

cme

Bir they dat't

ot chase pne in ny rannec. dma. ra ftan to

Iteandea, Bnk of Mrenea. and W. nriae, ao t'U laew that

34

CO your prior recollacclOM.

2S h^w nd nouch area, as l izevlously said. Anl aha said Chen

But ! chirk noec aignlflrarc Mich

W. Miller aaya dm dms

mw

a node tdch Cmd ajd

lYttC

^^el€,

1

we a radio ncerna ra che tadc baeidee Che regilar ancem.

3 3od de
3
4

and W. Ktezni got her to igallfy a liccle tdc.

but her aeacomc at chac Cine
cropped hair.

S

mbb

chtt the cottar had eloaa

Etian't recall ny aoonc.

ice inporcnc,

earn wloaeaw are caUdog

1

93. that a

«oaId 90. 4nd io thid

2

eba wy I tme to lode. And dm do I see? ihe firac rar 1

3

ase gslrg cut of che parlung lac, ic kind c£ etuped and dm

4

It Mnc <zi nd goc *ey, and I aw due car going wecbond.

5

Again, givuig chan even Cha bnefic at Cha ttttc chat

Ml M. NQlec

«

M. HUler U deeccibuq a rar. they acill can't mv dm

7 ran'c aay Owe che ocher ncanna we, <n che fconc ec che

7

ctm'a che nm in che aeok. in Che diirt, in che bnk, rcCUng

8

8

cbe bdik.

6

9

jwam helrry Hligwitr- err Arehlr.

tadc. dm tte’a calking

cfaie.

At

cm

clra ttc

tte

em’c wy If ic'e che oee oi the fcenc cr che ladt. buc at

Ihey hew no cm to do Ic. And a^ln, nd t Ion.

9 ycu'n gecclng aide cf ic. they dat'C do dm they need eo da

10 f*hw ciraa tte aaye ic’a a radio ancana <n che bade leeiriw

10

to izow 1C CO you.

u
u

u

and cbe repsec ip, gee it dem.

che regular arcana.

12

The nose incaraecing pert of Mzcadaa MlUar'a

ic'a « ample dung.

Fill out a fam.

They Manc you co gs n che blind faith of ic a fomd

13

teecimv la how ahe never naiCiona Camle Flaitteau ac all.

13

14

Md OemLa Flarttwu ia the non the a^e chac chia. diet their

14

eiipeit hae •*------ *—•* w a cegular nn of the mill plain old

15 did you ever see Hilbert Mttsich oi chew bdeyelw? Mi.

Uadc dd ]ad«c. cype jadac. wa aa m< je co Idin baeauw ic

16 you ovm aw hln n die bicycle? )b.

IS
16

amedme.

tkw. dm' a n incereecing cmcepC. benaitw you

leow dm else la fond dma?

Thrw bicycles.

Agent lewia,
Sid

Do you taw a idnw

17 bad elaecio arouid hera.

17

18

I paw Mr. PlncbBBj ^mda a lot ocra cioe oi hia

18

19 boeca ttan a loc of che ewe of ua. baeauw l chirk chat you

19

20 wuld DOC find Ctet elaecic ra che end of a Mincar ooec tould

30 houwa.

31

21

houw, buc they dan' c put a vaasaa cn che send co put Mai

33

chan ac ol^ nd put him then che ne£ ncmirg.

23

time ac ni^, nd puc him Chare che nen nmlrg, folios hiia

24

ttOkivL

22

be chac unigw a factor.
tte doen'C aey ooeurred.

33 geccirg irco the
34
3S

Buc he aaya. ahe eaye, chinge chac
He 84*. ahe eaye. chare he la

oh:.

tte a^, I dltt'c aw hUagee inco tta rar.
fipjced

I

I'd ben chan fra cency odj yean that dds

39

han ••
itey lenc Co calk dxm this being HiUmc Hdtteldi's
louw.

MiUmc M3«eich'a houw.

Mtlberc NKeiCh had tloea

They vent co calk about ic being HUbst Hamich’s

Rp hUa

siychifig.
nay d»'C do 1C.

I adtad Un. «me ycu dilng U7

 llBft

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1
1 tb. HBe other paella? YMh. Ihe/dsi't trlhg than la here.

1 mlnjca, buc I'm going to cell you vAat the Judge aiye tim.

3 They dai'c glre you ibK you need to hellaw «hee you aa

3

3 lie* ibidlng eiUeena

vn to believe, that the gamiwa.

4 Is rl^. And you Ioew ibat, that's

3 HUherc ttdtteich Is noc m crlal fer back fraud, he's on crisl
4 fm bmk rettery, ad for twlng a 9x1 in his poaaesslm dixlng

you're hse. That's

S uv ojoLM OC 4 uni cccncy. Ht IB ODC oi triBi rar cuin9
6 fxaxiilaK Ink loai ^plications. And he's mly m trial for

b «6af you tack that aolom oath that you tccfc.

•

The Judge a^. ladlee ad OencloiBi of the Jury,

you are fs- all ct us our iBocecUon, and I

7 Kill net let you feaget It. berewe i chink It la Oat

7 lAac he's bem indiccsd tor, not for aonecUng else.

a lairetM te to you fieabb' that.

8

9

9 vanclng you to eay la, la tUt HUberc Haorelch's eba one chac

NBv, 1 unc to dwnge pace a Uccla bat and deal tdtta

8ut I aseat Co yoi chat dat che gmemnac'a

10 Che nen tto I haw coined Che nare of Che Dnld TTUip of

10 fills ouc this paperHcrk, because ocheevdse ebay can't get Rm

u Ubecty at)'. Kn Midce. tv. MnUn is an intaxesting figure.

U AmLxB CO 9 ip hare ad taatlfy.

u

13

He oones in here, (ben' c unc to oocperate. gets a prcmne

Buc l aijjrar to you cbac che cnly Icglcel aplaatim

13 tian the gcwemienc and aayo, y«ah, I lovw this gjy Wr. Vidal,

U fer how all of Ran Amlra's boeber's ec-empeniea gee m chaaa

U Che os He all jdnd about Chat doen't

14 reocarda, and how Wc norked fm Rm AmlEa's naie gats on Chase

IS

u

Che caaea.

leeh. I did aoie husineaa «ach him. nr. vidal'a ocae
In nd aald, 1 dn'c know chat nan ouar Chnra. nr. Mza unts

15 leocsda, la che sane vay chat dn you ttecfc with the recode
16 chac you aee chac cha eloalnga are all b^pailng at the earn

U he's still gx me of hla Ccocher's old husineaa oaxds, ad m

17 plaoe, it's RnAnlra's work.
U
■>--«■»» MUberc lai't the cce with che decawiehal co

19 Che bade of Che bualnaaa caxd he vaoce a mce Co Kilhecc.

19 (to 1C. Think

30

30

17 you CO bellsw that acnehow, acne h^, fram flw yean hefoe.

That'a hla haac aablaaUoi fer calling ^ low on

it.

If che giAiouiiBit la to be bellswd.

cheery la co be believed, he robbEd seven bmla ad la

31 aoK F<«»n> oC paper chac is adndcced te a bank loan tbere he

31 dJto an^ co ke^ the diirc atoid ad che natta arood In

33 can nake fifty pewatc m his may m a dsrc caea basis, chac

33 hla base. Buc y«c. m the ocher hard, he's aierc auu^ co

33 Wlhect NdoreiCh has anrwrfly fillad am chla papamnrtc. The

23 a^ge in this rmlpulaclw Cmk fxad aiuie vAera he aoiahow

34 gawiuiieiJt wnta you to believe -- ad Che govemienc larcs you

24 la vrlcing I have aievan theuead (toOlsre in che bmk, ad

2S to belieye aonthins, and I'll tell )qu wwt tMC le ia e

49

UB9
1

Hall, let m call you how amply that me falls.

you're going co gee Che ttedc fee sew Chxiaad me

1

3 Agam l»s. do you recall seeing a oenpjbar in W. HdMCb'a

2 ludrad aid fifty (tollers, thee puts him el^w chouaad me

3 heuee; tb you recall seeliq a Cypasltax In 1*. HdOelCh'B

3 tutted att fifty (tollan ahead. He gets adther five thouaad

4 heuae?

lb. lock sc the cbanencs. itB has the office? Iba

4 m the Chizd me, the me he newr nekee ary peymacs m, chat

9 Amia. Wdse Che pereon «ho has the nose Co gain? Dm Antia.

S puts him alMem choaad me ludred and fifty Cbllara ahead.

Md idule «e' re m may, lec ne go to a tnp'le of

«

7 adduce chat have baai imodred bate, if 1 cai find ly notes

a

m Ron Anlre and aoay.

I adad eiei'jtiafy I could aak. I

9 chou^ Bd#K bdw. vhether cr net »a. wnelth had psid aiy of

so you gat auoem thojaand me tutted ad fifty, ad

6

7 eleven chouaand me tutted and eigtty-flw risfK dare, that'a
6 CHency-aeven chouead ad change ck^. Thai you're going to
9

10 his instgaga peqnatcs m Che child yatpeccy. ad they reld they

10 vAai they say Ida - - you lodw. let ne jist say It's

u

u

didi'c )odw.

13

I cho^£ chac was preccy Intsraacing, bncreaa ob of

vndiapuced, it's mcaicestsd, there is no eddare to dl^JCs.

13

They eay, well, Iklly nonris aidcsd him for

13 cha clun^ you're going to gee la e cepy In Chen of cha

U dxuraicacim and he never gene it co her. Hall, the fact chac

14 papervork chac I Inczoduoed, me of cha defenaa atddbdcs, vAere

14 Rally Kcxla dldi'c d? her )cb iat'C co be placed m che

IS It's aayiig, Hilbert, Kllberc, pay your Ulla, you oia ta

IS dnuldere of Wilbert HdOelth. Ttu'ze going to find cut nhere

16 teney. He uas threu^ Che agent ad 1. and t hm two tudred

16 tils father withdrew five thouaand (tollore, he told tally Kirtla

17 and fifty dollsrs off, but ve figured vp elswi chouead a«
18 tuafted and ei^Ky-flve doUara in oenay that he ^ firei che

17 about chac.
You're going co find cut lAexe hie nother wlctttew m
18

19 MD^BCS.

19 ttnreh 15th me theuead; oi Al^isc 3rd. me thovaad; m

30

Now, this la during chla cima pearled vAai they're

30 tevwiUa 19th, ma thousand; m Oeceita 6tJi, three thousand —
I'ai any, ttomber 19th, no chouead; m Ceoaibar 6th, ttree

31 txyiip to say chac, you lodw, he xebe a bade in Che aoenlng ad

31

23 he gees Us brakes tlMd in Che afceodm. Ik's gx a pceltiw

23 ctnaad; m tmeaiAer 24th, five luttmd; m ceoMbar 37th. Od

33 eedi flow fxoa ta> Anaie of abaaai chcuaad one baUad and

23 chouead; m cecaitaer 31at. cao chouead; m Jim 34th, me
24

3$ five choaand hedc, Chae'e fokc Chouead ahead.

35

»awe4em^

Wawtel4

1 »FW

Wraa try mo tutted ad sorething thm !*■ off, the

 1 wuuwfc that 3«u hm beta* vw (tew ttat Mltet NSttalch hid

1 Ctdi9 dsing the oxirse cf his plddng

2 fccc/-fl'« ^niwnd fi>« hmdnd «l#Ky-flvB daLlaza of mner

2 csss. And diy do 1 s^ chat?

3 oomlng In. bMidM «>t)BC ha gsc fron Un work chat Hally Itarla

3

4 oanflziwA Chat ha

4 tdoaaaea oi, they put than oi In rereras erder. The aaeend

5

dedng. nrcy-flva chouaand dsUan.

And m« of lou

net laidexicnl. hue itac'a Che

6 fizK chlng a aingla aw geca? A bilta aenen TV.

i nMn. ycu

evio

In this

tetlay re know, bacauae the g^renmenc put cha

5 wjaaea rea the first tairglary. And dat happens after the

«

fim burglary? ic'a a hceae he owa, a teuae ha'a trying to

7 loot, they're aakliq a big deal cut of Chat, lock at the

7 fix ip. ttac doee Rat Andre aay? I'm selling Clare—

S bfUa. He'a 9X a ttandMrt bUl, ic'a nn'd ox. Ha'agac

S

9 oedlt ozda Chat are me'd.

9 osndiciaar in there, ad If nobody's living there, the nwc

I neai, he’a living beyend hia

I'm letting him here there houeea. nen, I puc «) air

10 aeena, but ^‘ca not aaaing the big caoh paynwe.

10 d^ it’s scolai. They're Caking wlndcre cut of the relle. So

11

11 they nske it soieching hemribla that he' e gx a caiara out

u

They aontad you to uae tlila bdilblc Mnber 30, and
they aald lock at all Cheae cadi dlobLiraaiencs in there, lock

u

frenc aa he can aee people -- an If acnebody's beckan in.

13 at all the atidaan on there, lock at all the oca chat ibi’c

13 Hell, diy'?

14 doe they're fim MUbere. Hare they ew said he doadi't hare

14 they «ax in ad care out the box door.

15 frlsdi? NO.

15

IS

t adtad the iqenc, and he fee^x.

He aald there «as another nmggert <[toBClc),

the lady offlcB- ds res hse today asys

Mil, node ad didxllaf.

1 eaeo. it's reeslng,

U iai'c it, clac Bjiaaa dnn heure gate burglarised cakea

17 atciacen wrraggart, and aoiete^ elae there dn the anl

17 precautioa to protect it fron hafpailng spin.

la

IS inmnamHiln~ I chink not.

PoUoe eaea areund the first tins dn they tore looking

Is that so

I think not at all. ax they wax

19 at the houeea. Ha'a gx fnsxk. Hx the enly pmen in the

19 you to think soieching else.

30 rerld clxc erer ^ee aiyplace. ito'a got frldda. hcple ooie

20 clay rent you to beliere.

21 orer to hlj houae.

21

22

22 ooRflrned his aiplaynsx at three diffenrx cinee in three

Ihay beta^ in wmeaaeB to calk about baglerlre.

you see it fits with dac

Kelly Hxris grudgingly adAUad chat da had

23 They led the agent the ocher day naklng a big daal out of the

23 dlffaraK pleoes. 9a conflrna that he had told her about

24 fact Chet he hid a Video cmn ouealde. Hell, nrenre aee onoe

24 raoeivlng naay Czob hia family on aultiple oceasiora. Agax

3S again diy Agmt Sager

25 Sagm I laere to your cwi rairzy. beearee 1 eug^ec to you

— well,

here mtaewl a fee

ctxc In Che and you'11 find that, <rell, hla vock rea ]uac

heard the evidsne that you haeid, to irderscend dat hanpaad

ai^par, ha ]uat dldi'c do dec needed to be done in a oaae of

on chore ba9c rXberles oi thcae days. Like AH. ^vec cold

this nacure.

you, dildi is Che Cbinacce Bak. erai dan be reat'c -- ad it

And frankly, ledlea and ^xlaean. that leMa ua idcta
diere we are today. Id fesr not being here in chla valley, in
the drefcw of the Uuted Stacee oareunn. Ha feer not addng

reai'c juBC MB. Ceivec, Aw'--* am drei he reai'c readiahlng
a gun, he wa using his finger.
Several of the wicanw aald that his finger rea --

fer this trial, re feer not you aa our jury. Ha aak ^ to

hia had res as l an indicacliq to you, his indsc finger and

oaisidar the avidanca end the facta, to put aaide ^ur aiotiai

his chuib like a gx. And you >dll ere the boards. You saw

and your baliefs that you tri^ hare eoira into chla eeurcroon

Che boarda during ny cpaiijg clcslng, you have da piccurw.

tdch, choae de^ one that you hene to think herd Abouc.

YOU Hill are the trend d» he res using his firgere, painting

He feer not your verdicc. He adc you to letum fair
veedieca, and re faal cmfidex chat cheat fair rerdicca «dll

That is frer ad intimldacieB. Oat is the elaraxs
of Che am. Likewise, with eta fax addiciaal oouxs of

all be vatdlcta of not giilcy.
t thank you on

in each and erexy rdfisy.

cf (k, ttMelCh wy nidi.

using or Crandidiing a gkx doing a bank rcUxiy, a^dn Kie

ItC oajir: Thank you, tt. Hcrea.

Hxxr will instruct you on da Ire. Nr. idwre dallengid the

Mi. Hltranl, you ray clcee.

gavetiiiax to say acneching that it res never fired, and thank

W. Kmwn:

QDd It vaan'C, but daca nx da alanenc.

Pear tactiea. nar tactics. The fear

in this cam, Msiteia of the Airy, is not dac ths
goremiHX hre <b«. The feer tecTice in this oee Is dac

The elaiax la not that da gul iiwr»r1 to be
dlsdatgre. YOu’re not ^Ung to hear Hie Harr cell you Chet

that aw did to thoae bank teUera and choae vIccibb dirlng the

dac'a dac da yremienc laa to prove, ttar you're

el^ nXtariee. Thaae aee el^ bnk irttraiea. four srnsd

Imr, Iri.ieainrr His Hxcr will instruct you dac cha gx

bank icttslaa. That's sesry stuff.

nseded to be laed cr ferandidad. Biadidad. dovn.

He rea a eeazy <ren. YOu heard all of the evidancs.

to

I wttia it to you befoe, treiLgia of the Aoy, ad I'll

The (Jaigae In thla oae, the bsik zoUaxlae, are that he took

npMC It. da burden of proof la on da goreoirax. And re

by faoe, vlolnoe, v InciaiUtacim the uuay. That'a dy you

relora, re relccra our turdai to irove this care bQond a

 »
1

TiMmi^liii doubt, and ttet !• Mctly «tet m hM dm hse,

1

ftd let's talk to yai aha a: aoiaChtng about that

3 ia FCMn this caae beyond e iMsaidJle ^ubc.

2

Bcnething chat Kls Hoks will tell you.

3

ihiB case is net abcuc, and the evidence Chat you saw

3

cell yoj chat you had an cfpoctunicy here to aae all the

4

and will see axi will emmne is not about tBtat the govecment

4

wiQaeBes, ad it ia ycur jcb to aeaeaa their oedlMlicy.

S «e*Ks you to believe.

B
9

X

S aaai. you heard than ri^S hese Live, it's ftr you Co ctoorb.

That plsye no £actcr in ymr

6 dilibRKias. it's what «e have proven in this OHe.
7

Kis Hms'a going to

and it

is proof be^x) a memifile ddix.
I vent CO first talX to you about the jatsiey vehicle.
t chink Mr. Hma steed ip hate and triad to point out vhat he

6

M me at the thin^ that Ua Ibm will cell you

7

Chat in deciding dacher ycu believe or do not believe any

8

wlcnees, I auseec that you aek ycuraelf a few questions.

9

Che wltneea iirtnaa you ae ate v4s vaa Celling Che truth? Qid

Did

10

ecnt«da to be eone diserepaneiee in the witneeaes'

10

u

dMSipciens.

tfell. jeju lenv -- and these is pettspa <4«cher

U

rmt

12

mi»<*k‘dda

u

acBory? Did Che wicneea have the opporcvnity and abillcy to
ebaerve aocuzecaly the citing that he <x da caetified about.

12
13
U

«»•*

in nr

m*

him

in

atBC a coincidence, you Inw, idiac a aolncidence chat

Che wltneae have any pertioilar teaaoi not to tell Che truth?
Did cha wlcneei beve a pneonal incacaac in the
B-W

■! a i"»

rh»

Mam »a Kflam ft 4‘e'W*

in eadl of the benk xctteles vdaie that car ves idmcitied

14

16

Che KLalak bank tobbecy, the Bank of Arertca bank zebbsty, the

15

16

astRUBt BatX rcbheiy •• ^lat a aolncidence tlac aadi and every

16

nlnd. or oourae, chat a ample niscaka by a wltneae does not

17

tine within

17

neoeeeary eaan chat chat wioaea tee not celling the cividi ae

18

he or aha raiatbered it. becamo parple lacvirelly esd to

19

tergec acne thlnge cs larenba' other thin^ Inaocuracely.

U
19
30

of the rettary it is a zed but^ady besqr

Wzoedas that is eaen leevuig.
M else tiec red and bui9undy bca^ Meroedee belcnga
CO the defendne.

wch the asoMpeien cf nr. flandmi and

His Hmr will alas tell you chat you dould keep In

20

9o if a wlczaea has nede a fllaecacant, ^ need to
ooaider v4acher it vea einply an iizioasic lapae of nenory or

21

W. Miller, nebody left Che bank to get a eloeer view of all of

21

22

the IdencifyiiQ feacurea.

22

at Incanciotal falaahocd.

23

heard, they had iriwnn to tecojiiee the car, dactas it's

23

d^sd at dachar it has to do with an inpescanc fact, or oily

34

iwwiw— like M. yahlcnd^, her oocher had the or, <x

24

with at isiiDpcrtOK dacail.

25

M. Mrandez, da Aowe one.

25

But fes different reasota, aa ^’ve

Aid Che ei^ilficanoe of that nay

So, Aftdjae at the Jury, let's put these bank

11SR

1

zotimiaa in cmetc.

Nm of cheae 'iltrweeee hen, nm ot

2

the b«k celIczB, noa at the vietlna, kraw they

3

be vicciROzed that day.

they ««re dndad.

wk«

palng to

Oda •«

A

1

that wae nede ip hne.

2

you have the accrel reccsth.

in fact this an Vam.

3 vtaevv it la, and you dm dot it Iccia like, Chat llctle
4

Wed

4de«

i i

«

»ft«ft4 «*#

WOhftV^

S MB. ftsnandez even aaid chat at first da coulcti'C even believe

s

Maoceich bought tint.

6

6

nunber on cha Bun Bms, diidi Agent lads got fzon Hilbsrc

7
8

it vBB hafpening, she choice it vas a jcke.
They wete scsctlad. it hanwnwi quickly, the ziiiai
taa in. the retter «ae out.

So to the esanc that na

9 wicnaaaaa nd^ iBiaitei' ell^ details dlfferercly, place that
10

in that concecc. w. Houae tae talkiag scnaching about aoie

IC was zeglaceced to him.

ihe aerial

7 Mdcrelth'a car. needed the aerial rastaer that Nr. Fectenabo

•

had in his seassda.

9

And l«. Waae aaye aonching thac this an Me is

10 dasi^nd to be iicbile.

Hell, dat e/ldone la there thac it

11 pathological cheesy of oomccneea tlat the wioaeaH eoiehow

U

wasn't in the Meroadea? That's dare it wes at the

12

•• Bom thficcy

12

aeaidi.

13

or cha ocher.

9:05 a.m. at Oatnercial Baulevaid near dtse AlA, mat Oakland

els/ vant to help or please or this or that

of tbs

And than you hne the svmxusc rettery hcppsiiiq at

IS

not the evidence in this ceee.

I aeoi, you ear the wtaaeBee

u
u
u

16

ceecity ae to diK -- they wen these, they wne chKe, ae bo

16

an teea going thmqh the Qpreee Qeek toll. Has is bnd

17

evidsne. Ttac is baaed at the elecczmlc umniLaBiaa.

14

Hall. 1 den't Is0w dare that's oaning Czoit thac'a

17 what they am ad dat they heard,
16 anforanenc.
19
30

ilay repertad it to Iw

dac incezeat do they have in net charting it

accuracaly?
Ldawlse. dm they were all ahoai plcctna of the

And

le you have thac aara Sot fees goiiq chiov^ tha Qolden Glada in a
19

aouchsly dlractioi.

30

thac zcuce? tell, of osuree not.

On we eiplain dty Cha defendant ttoaa
ajt yai torn the faces.

31 car. Aae it ^pear to bt Cha car? Itell. yee. It dm. it

21

22 ^peare to ne to be Che oer.

22 Nr. Mfteith juat oaincideDrally, }tac ooUddoKally. his an

t Bean, dec zeaaot diilrt they

nets chat the wMw «ae chare at 9:05, ad

23 have to rate chat tp, to not cell the crush atEiP it? Oa laet

23

Eeae happeia to be ri^ in Bmerd Oounby at the TUtzpikB.

24

34

It's nec a colncldaice, of aasse It's not a colncldaioa.

point at Cha ear, »ibata of the jury, od that's Cha ftsi me.

25 Tha avldinoe chat you hate at the an teas is not nachiig

35 Nr. ttjwes cold you that thia diizc is na on trial.

But of

 •

1

1

oourae, the berk nbtar Is on trial.

2

lUa Is ths bMk icifaer'B itilrt, there's no dispute.

3 Cas In a six bllllai Aase that there could be sother tfiirt
4 }iac lUe this, this Is the defacbnt's ahlit. It «as foud

$
«

a

reported that his hotee had bea> LuiJiai into m two aqarate

2 Unas in cmo eapaL'ace ^ara, 2000 and 2001.
3

Md he cells the cffloer, Officer Senpsm, ny mo mss

4 cakai. iry clothing vee taken, ny TV watch wee taken.

In the

in his house, hanging In his eloaec. mr. Kwas said sonathlng

S caae of Offioer JUnnez, the defandaK nencims chat the

about the defendant owiing three properties, hut smshoa ths

6

fqttiee.

a

9

Hell. «• yiMUU.nl evidace, MaiLeis of ths jury, that

U he had purdused the three houses.

Bi£ he usan’t living in

10

three houees, he tua living in me house.
69Cb Tsiiaoe house.

u
u

howe. rl^? Ycu had ftn AnizB testify that the defanttent

13

MS Living there.

14

IS

YCu raall hla csstbiui/ that ha «euld be In Ubercy

ulliiiii

11 but hare

U

Hi use living In the

The defailax sglaUad. you

imuiLbi.

to Offioer

9 JifMnaa. da wee pretty dUiguK. da nxioed Che dMga in

U

Ytu have the reccida that hs bougs the

aaeuricy alarm coipany pacified him mSmi the alarm wax off m

12

The drlver’a lloaae had Che Qjomut Gkove ad±esi.
m

were m 69Ch Street THmoe.

And he cold her.

yMh, 1 uaed to live there, but thla ia vherc i live now.
Md it's Amy. tecuae Id. H>es aald you dm't hsM

nobody pxciig bln there at ni^ ad putting hla there in

IS Che mtizg. MU. otfloer Jleanes tm there ec

•-

it Cicy, «d be )m« the Jefui^i. having tkiu the dasls. and he

18 aMEUM ne, not Jlnanez. OffloB Sagem aald he got there abouE

17 drives hy

and doui to lock at hauses to bty, ud hs Mould

17

8i30 at ni^.

u see the defetduit's car, the daCendant's nBcedea, parked in

IS

aU loiow the

19

ai^Mhere 6:30, 7 o'clodt in the ncmlig. and they saw the
defadant leave his house.

IS

front of the 69th Street Terrace, his tsuae.

And the dsfudant

30

hUraelf identified ths 89Ch Street leriace house as hla

20

21

reBldsce in th» t\ao curglangg> n^t.7

21

22

YOU aur the offieers. Offioer ^ipam ad Otfloer

Tiwn bin beug chK« in the taming,

23

houae, the receipts twich his nans m it.
svldBEe thee aqcne else liMd there.

23

JiBBus, testify this naoung than the victin, the victia of

23

24

these

24

ctHC M find

2S

199S, r^tsteJ ituia acolan freoi his house.

2$

cobber in the detortanc's house,

1

MS Hilbert Hdteith, blade aule adilt bean in
KLlbsrt Hdbeith

IndlscinguidHbls fteai ths Sisl&cuec oast In the dafanduc's

2 tojm.
3

TCu hams Che Hdy Iby bag in the dafanduK's haus.

hbU,

you

of Che mrdi the agatts aec-«g on the heuaa

And there's no
So what a oolirirtmce

I eean. you hsM the dUrc «arn by the
ibu hSM s ooac chsc's

1

jud. you know, ic't Incaseeting hmeast there «ua eoie

2

talk in this trial of LiM flngerprlrcs, ad flngerprlncs being

3 dM and roc dx», or OA. Md. you Ioxm, ae ^ reeaU. A^x
4

lawia actsapeed to to ^ fugarpeints ficon this becukae this

S Mil as the uatAsa in his hoiue.

$

Me left m the acate, bx mbs mable to do ao.

6

6

4 J9ln. Indlsting,ildsble.

And the neda.

In his house.

As

NOW, N:. ibMs said aoiethlng to yeu to ths sffset. 1

euc Che gms chat «ara feud in the house, or the

7 dai't Msnt to know, I cbi't «cait to know, the

7 dOtC CMC MM feud in his house, cr the hat that mbs foud in

8 deeui't Mint to ledw. Hall, the gmuiiBit. Special Aguk

8 Che defadax'8 hsuee. mbU, Mac would that hare proMi7 Tbi

9 Lewis, sent ip thugs to the ctUib — to W. ibadsr BBugge te

9 Mow, it's feud In cha hbae, you Mov it's the defendant's

10 hin to ekaaiins. He had the ddit. v«y distinctlM ahixt. Aid

10 scuff.

u

the Inceteacing thing is. you bad due appears to be cmo other

n

distincUM itens of clothing; a striped bag end a coat.

13

sic hare ad cry to ceU you a lanky list, he oan ceU yeu

13

five ChUge that the govaarasnc, the FBI, oould here, teuld

14

have, Mould have dme.

IS

ths gjvemnent would hare, could have. Mould hews dm. And

18

tor Mac?

13
13
U

nr. uoeder Bruegge mbs able to peifcam his anslysls.
«d hs said It'S indistinguishable.

But the Mtdas. were

IS asked blow ^ theee piceurse ad see Mtat
18

the Mists.

OBUld Idudify m

And ycu heard hlRi testify that the rsealixims

17 MUi' c fins ansuef),

k

ha on s^ there's

cmo

things m ths

U Mist, be he couldn’t a^ that they were two MUtdHS, becuaie

Because in every caea -• in this esee, Mr. Hhm <b>

17
18

It's a discractlen. It's a dlsczaccim.

He could give ^ flfcy Chls^ Chat

Uke we said, cry to get -- aamne you can
OK tren this.

get

chare's no evidence, chse'a no awidenoe

19

that you oan get OA fron an artlcla at clothing like this,

Ms that hiding a^thing? And of course ^’11 ha<a

20

Mat

21

the qpcECmlcy to look at ths piccurea and ass te ^Msalf.

31

fbr bank fraud, chat is true-

23

Uhewies. there

33

Bigilflax fer chat puepoae.

19

there's not em^ detail, becauee the ieaolio.ien

20

ms

mui'c

goed.

calk of that the gm Moai't «nc to

it lave prewm? The defendant is not on trial hare

23 tt-. ifccte Bruegge. MU. you had Che me get ^ )ncw the

23

24 defadac used this gm at BaSc of hnaice

24 gK a Rort^ge.

25

ChM«.

it MS left

I aeai. <bac’a the poln eC bringing Chet «g.

But the dxuiaxe are not

The dxunexs are eignifleanc to Mow ctaM be needi to
Aid this Mels netim cf.

mU.

there's no

29 OMpubM cr there's do cypstebcer in the MfsilanC's house aad

 •
1 you leek ac Uuee dxuienta and they're typMltur, ««U, ot

1 fining wei^K. And cA two taccAa, cA tto tecdca. All
2 ware very aignifleant u her. nr. iBwaa aaya aenechizig that cn

2 eourae, the nort^ge osipaiy, the title ccnpany, thm'a a
}

3 MmJi l9Ch eA did not cell Agent Lawia that tA defodant

perattt or entity that [s^aiea thoee tixuimta.

4

Bik then you eee thcee doajnu, you' 11 aee acRCthlag

4 always wjuia plaid ahlrts, Nk said black pence and black

s that is net OfaMrittan, and thac-a the defandanc'a al^wciKe.

5 T-ahirca.

6 The defendant'a al^atxite atatliq ttat he mccU tor tool and

6

7 Petlo King <x Vldel Oratiuccioi- M hie need to aaha ip

7 and blade T-ahirca, we aae it in cA aurveillnce pteCograpA.

e aaplotncnc bewejee he eouUh't tell the banka how ha actually

a

9 eaanad incote.

9 But aaondly, and leraiLai, Agnc iswds rat with Ally Harris

10

All, first, •• leew cA defendant wears black pants
TAC tea foend In his house nd wiaKsaea taatified Co chat.

10 en Rcce than one cccaaicn. Arch 19Ch vaa oily tA firac cira.

»c. ItouBB Bald W. AnLza couldi't oplaln how the

And I believe, and you'll have to rely cn your on

u defendant got car poaaihly could have gotten hia beoctar'a

u

12 buBliaaa md, veil, that's not tp to Mr, AnLra to <b.

12 mtmalea, that Agent lewla tescified cAt ac a later dace Ally

I ran,

13 the point is, the defendant never viccked there, nd he lied

U Mama had nede cA acaesnne, yeah, chat tA defendant wears

14 about it.
15
Ally Ittrla. niat, tfaiLeiB of the Jury, you will

14 plaid ahicta. A. itawee said aeneching about Firdrede of

16 recall that Kelly Haitla «aa Aon oece than ena pheccyagti eC

U car, aree A'a in and ares A'a not, A's not learinj a plaid

17 thedefndnt. In adUtin to being abon the ptstogreph <tae
18 the defendant la colling ip hia hat, die rae ahowi other

17 diiit. Like we all Isnw, this la lUa bank rettery dUrt.

1$ piccuree <dsich helped her to idntlfy the defendnt. And

19 naek nd hia beg and hia coat, bpranne it wee warkU^ for him.

30 particularly aha wee ahon Bddbit 4-F, uhidi is a bank rettery

20 Thla wea not OA bank rcbbeiy, hare we have a acrlng of eight

21 picture trcn Bank of America; and 7-d, Wildi la fzon Bnk

21 bank rcbberies. Little did A loiow <At wee going to A

22 united.

22 hqpning cn April Uch. chat cA eeardi aae gaing to A

23

15 plccurea. cr aonething to cAc effect, fond in cA defancNhC'a

U

And A kipc It. JUBt llA A kept tA shirt and his

23 hM[yriing iS bi4 bOUK*

9k told A^K lewis o> Aitli 19th, that locks Ilka

24 ttUbert, locta like HilbBR. Sam body type, the profile leeks

24

25 to her to be turn. Thse'e a Little bit of a gut, A'd been

25 •« ttou -- «<iy didt't Agnc Lewis show Ally Attzis cA

And a^in, A. Kmea eeda am point about i*y didn't

i?rA
1 •arveUlnoe filra. Nall, you aw the aurralUnce fUn, it

1 aaid you're put in n all re nochUg aituaciai. All. Hia

2 goea [iretty cBuck. She had the phocograftt tfiidi wne tain

2 Haer »«n inaciucc you chat you are A oawltBr eadi nd ewy

3 fzan those eurveiUnoe filra. A. Hates nratiaad I bellew

3 ecus acjArecely nd dnlA tA defndnc’e guilt « eadi

4 it tea COurmy Pielde. Che teller Ccon Bnk Uilted «tt

4 indlvUkial twelve causa.

S deecnbed the acent nd the OTplaaon ae Arabian.

5

6

6 jury, cAt it is tA em bank rebber, bs there «ee a paccem

But

11 cacBll >4» 1 adod tun, well, tfiac <b yau

Hevlrg aaid chat, I aiimt A you. Anbere of CA

7 ran by Arabin, and wnaabar A eat oi chat send nd A said

7 MCttUtfied. A ignt Sagtr teatlflrrl nd Agars Iwls, cheee

e aoiBChlng A's not fmillar, A'a not n opart oi CA islands.

a

9 but A said aois kind of islnd type of coiplodon and accent.

9

were turned over A Agant Lewia for a reaaai. And you
Oie

OCpiCUng UB iilBL iOuA

aae
«w4A4

10 And again. I ran nr. Hawes, you toiow. ^pent a lot of tine, yaa

10 eee cA pattern, you on aaa cA pointing in these pheoceprapA.

U toiow, calking to you abcuc how this pattern. In hia view.

11

12 belletcB tA evldnce ton't prove CA patteen.

12

13

B0CBUM BOiC

And you cn aee in cheee phcA^rapA, alChDuBfi nx
CMly IXJOXiy, OUC nSif CC W II Ml 1 HU, (Ad tt ^b<4 1 n wk
pwvw^I vw

IBftiU SI AL0U4ik 4UJ4IIU« SU BUIK

K4 ^ ^»«A ^

A

rh*

14 f—(hdi'c hear n Arttin accent, and aonbody nqr hoo

14 t/Tr* cloAly, cheee ere uily fair, Ac chare are four othera.

15 ilrnrTllTil hun aa a tindrad and ei^icy pouda nd sorattdy asy

15 them's tA sere pattern of tA narSied irai valklng in.

16 hava daaenAd him aa a tindrad axl thirty pourla. Nell,

16 demding noney, big Rtzsy. saylig n> clye pedee, a bait nenay.

17 a^ln. I bring you bade to vAn we scacced. TAse aventa

17 taking reer tA bank wlA cA bag.

14

10

19 diffsancly.

19 ran'c givn a bim in hie hnda. QiA me cA imey, tA nosy

20

In fact, ana pacple -- acne pecple dKsetad an
diA'c. And I chirk omen sam will cell
22 you chat cA pnoaptloi of n accent is like beoxy*e in tA
23 eye of tA beholder.
24
I wBit to .... ..... a few more pednea nr. tbwaa rada.

20 MB airaye put in a bag aa you see in tbeae pdeturse. And him

21 aeoenc, aom

21

25 chn wa'll aun it tp o> behalf of CA Uiltad Scacaa. W. tfewea

2S g^aad, made a graastineu that it was a tutted and al^sy

*lAhi rour* w aam- uml
hii^i ji**
22 a^in you aee tA raie pattern; tA pereui pausing, bag.
23 poiisug, fsiK corarad, ot oaurae tA plaid Mrc.
24

MS tA fact that oie wiAeae ney haw recalled him - -

 •
1

ponk. «1 mactm tdcnaa

tmm uadi •

ef «

1

S

mxb a rjiirir item, thac'a a diaetepaney that dMea't matter.

gdog to be e« oolume, giilcy sd not giilcy.
And on behalf of tte Utlced Scacee. «e «dll adc tbec
3 baaed on the awldanea, the proof beyend ieaem*1e <tafa. ycu
4 dwek off guilty to each cote of the indicom.
5
Hank

<

dnem't U.uiIl the avsdnce.

6

HBOCtRr:

7

ateiLaa of Che Jury, that oodltdae the dosing

3
3

luidbrcd wd thirty pctnte, ix ttoc 0<d ttlOaM im/
differed oi dciii coipleoai. ob Ctnu^ it ««■ a little itazte

4

thn the other, glwi the Jetai^M. hie face had ban oavared.

7

So at tha and of the day. Haitara at the Jury, «dsc «e

9

hate ia [seed beyad ii—iidilii da±t that tha daCandant,

9

tdlbst Mdttelth, ia the rctixr.

M I atartad ny eloalig nd

3

8 aBgjma in tiaa oea, ad it faik isnlna Cor you to bear the
9 aajcc'e Ineczucciaa aa to the law. Ae 1 indioeced to you

to

I'U «d with ny cloatng, ytu knnt that trraaae of the tftlzt

10

U

that »ee fond, hla rtilrt found hanglhg Ih hia clceet. veu

11

12

)OBM chat

u

13

of hla coat, tdiidi

ms

hsiglng in the sate

13

clceet as the rtiixt.

Hark you, M. MitzHii.

aarliar, ue are going to receeB for the dqr at chia Cine to

aocomodaca era of yoir tranters.
I

Chet eveythiig will terk out fine for you, I'm

sun it will.

H* )orov that bacauaa of tha atripad Mry My bag fond

14

IS

iD Che defendant's house, used by the idte in eta Sueb TXiat

15

ft.fli.

U

lottery.

16

tine the Cburc will Ineciucc ytu on the lew and then adt chat

17

Che defaaleiL'a house, nadca Meh Che «tola cut out.

18

this

14

19

taouee.

YOU tonr it

of Che mates that aete feud in
YOu know

of Che MCdas chat use found in the defendant'a
tai lro< this

ot the qacaiea’ ear. the testy red

Ard we'll be in raoeas tntll corartow rtotning at 9s00
If you 11

to us

18
19

Md we ahculd haw the caee to you Cor your
oaneidaration by about 9s30.

30 tur^ady tteoedae. the defsrtec's ear. tha gitamy oar
21

21 ihKk you v«ry nueh.

idantlfied in to eetiy rottenae.
w. tteea ^oke to ynu about a uenUcc SeaiB, and yoi

33 Kill be getting a
24

mrUcc

fexm diidi ia going to waf tlilced

vr*raB ot Arecla wmd NUberc Hdoralth, vardicc.

And it's

25 going to Uac all of the c&nce 1 tlsou^ 12, and Chare axe

uik

17 ytu recixe to tellberete ytur Mcdicc.

30 ewoolng.

23

tcon 4C 9:00 a.nur ac

33

so i hope you haw a pleeesK

*rd you are asueeri mtil toaerrew aarrung S- 9!00.

You my cake the jury out.

33

pisyr laene Cte oastraoj.

34

HBOXIC!

All rlcpc.

ladies sd gentlemen, we will

25 be in receea vicll conorrow neming at 9 e'clodc.

191A

1

aft. 10C8:

JW^, tey «e dlecuee one natter tdch you

1

2 befene «e leaw?

3

3

HE osuir:

All ri^, air.

3

4

aft. K>CS:

adlbetc. la chare anything chat you «enc

5
6

HE COKT:

tt), I txderscand.

to tell Che Judge about dtac see ^ing on in the closing

-- chare is a eaea before Ax^ Sold on

ar^amK; ia chse aoncthlng you tent to call hiaS

6

we onoMT:

9

Hi. tOB;

10

neaee apeak ip. I em'C haar ytu.

Mi. loaES:

Hut neiv scaMnnce that —

lb. no. no. I'm not talking about ttec

13

they BBid, I'm talking about «tec I aald.

13

yw ««K CO cell the JU^ aboiK abac 1 dldf

14

HE iBSOWr:
Job.

la thn« anything

ab. ab. Iteaa did a

wy good

I'm very happy he's ay accetney.
HE OXRr:

mielujah.

7 Ha gnemm haa Che doonettabiai here ahodng cite he ia a
8 OBwlccad felon on acpervleed zelaeee out of fHisylwiia.

ves.

atec do you xrt to cell the Jixige?

HE EBBOWT:

U

I chink ha •• I a^te «dch

9

Ht. SIBFiN:

11

IE. Mnma:

12

HI. tdlU'iNi

a
u

Hi. lOSS:
State of Florida.

There are two chat are, Chaaa are not auig

15

the CM that ace.

Bveiyching else ia fron cMsida Che State ot

16

Florida.

17

18

18

dieuld by tany chat he'a ycur accecney.
aft. IOCS: Judge, «ten do ytu vent to hadle the
zamiiui^ cuo coubal

31

HE ODW:

23

Jury for their dditeratlone.

33

Ht. SlBSt:

24

TiiiuruM imning afcig- we've eenesri the

Quid «e aee itec'a left in tern of itac

haai'C been acipulacad to, beimte l chink •• if I uderecood

35 the defna. Chare Me e dieoaeim abom etlpileting to the

Md the ocher thug you've gx to psow is —

10

17 you. Mr. au&elch. I chink he did do a very goad job, sd ycu

30

the court fila, and I'll get you the case nitter —

m. icacs:

HSRiaaBi:

19

Tha Qurc can taka Judicial nocloa chsc in

5

B

16

Hi. lOHBSi

4

7

15

fact chat ha's a prior ocnviccsi feloi.

Hut the gna -ucerscace nsos.
Hs gas were imfaeCiBed —
The gme were rot tmufaccured in Che

The iama chsi -IE. KTIRWI:

19

HE OUir:

20

MB. MtHMa:

31

HI. KMBi

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25

There's also one ntce elsisic. thee it's

a gxi, that it'a deal^ad to eperaca -It's a fiiearm.
It'S a Clreaaii.
NeU, dn I'm i^dng tha gxa. I'm saying

Cte flrmma.
HE aua-.

The crier of fact can tell thac.

The

look, 1 Chink.

Hi. WMI All xl^. Nall, but I'm Just saying, eo

 a
1 ehac tta only laM ctxn 1 Chink, Judgs, la Che cijeecioi of cur

1 3uBC Che peccem inscnsclon. 9o you can hm chac ter your

2 ttiauiHiL CO yeu ac ct»c point in Cine, beoi,Me Choee IssuM ace

2 tilM.

3 net jTing CO be ieeuee.

3

Cburt'B in ceoeea laitil 9:00 in the ecinlng-

«

4

tBdal ar7jf»rmar11

Ae a heuBetaeptng noccer, Judge, I chirk te aere ^Ing

S CO auy today end nehe auce «e had all our evidsce sciaiefx.

S

6

HE axKT: Ycu czn sc^. I'm gaing co go.

6

7

Mi. H3CS: Nell, do you anc

7

ahece do you aanc Che

8

S evidence ter carcrcoH maning?
9

HE asm: Hell, you well ecey hen thia afeetnoen

9

10 vd go over thia evidence adch Che clerk here, and I chink

10

11 evecychlng ia in. bje be chac ae ic imy.

U

u

9o Che laujJ tmy be clear, Che Ourc «dU acc^ Che

12

13 ecifulaciai cd the pacciee adch leepecc Co, A, Che face chat

13

14

Che fizeaina were not ciBufaccured in Che SCace of Flcrlda; 8,

14

15 chac Che defendanc indeed ie a coivleeed felcc; and C, chat --

IS

16

Hi. SI^IN: ihie chey are tixeainB.

16

17

HE aXKT:

17

— they ire fireante. And choi I'll hear

18 your ecgirenc.
19
Hi. H3MES: All ri^.

18
I'm juet seeing if you tenc

19

20 Che evidsce in Che Jiry roan fa: uiuicw morning cr —

20

21

21

HE COUC: No, no. He'll deliver ic Co the jucy roan

22 after they have retired to deliberece.

I doi't went them to be

23 locking ec ic befere they've beard wtae Che lav la.
24

dcay. He'll be in reoeae cncU 9 o'clodc. Here'e Che

25 idsKlflcaclen inecruccioi tdiidi I'm going co give. Mildi la

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