Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 1 of 19 PageID #: 352 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF INDIANA INDIANAPOLIS DIVISION UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Plaintiff, v. NOLAN BREWER, Defendant. ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) CAUSE NO. 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP GOVERNMENT’S SENTENCING MEMORANDUM The United States of America, by counsel, Josh J. Minkler, United States Attorney for the Southern District of Indiana, and Nicholas J. Linder, Assistant United States Attorney, hereby submits the following Sentencing Memorandum in the above-captioned case. INTRODUCTION Members of Congregation Shaarey Tefilla, a Jewish synagogue in Carmel, Indiana, awoke in horror on the morning of July 29, 2018 to perhaps the starkest symbol of hate and violence that could be directed at those of the Jewish faith. Two massive red and black Nazi flags, flanked by two Iron Crosses, had been painted on the walls of the Congregation’s property. And below them, the ground had been scorched by fire, yet another reminder of the genocide the Jewish people suffered during the Holocaust. The Congregation knew that over the past several years, hate crimes against people of the Jewish faith were on the rise. Some of them deadly. Fear shook the Congregation. Fear is what Nolan Brewer and his co-conspirator wife intended. Brewer had come to believe in Nazism. He admired Adolf Hitler, wore Nazi paraphernalia, and spoke of white supremacy. He and his wife wanted to send a message. So they went out and bought supplies. Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 2 of 19 PageID #: 353 Not only spray paint, but also ingredients they used to build overpressure explosive devices and concoct homemade “napalm.” In the middle of the night, they drove over 50 miles to the Synagogue. They parked a mile away to avoid detection and carried their supplies in a backpack, planning to break into the Synagogue and set it on fire. In the end, the Synagogue’s security deterred them from breaking in, so they sent their message on the walls of a nearby enclosure. The next day, while the Congregation, and indeed the entire community, took notice in shock and disgust, Brewer bragged about what he had done. He was not remorseful. Witnesses will testify that he was unusually happy and excited. He showed them photos and gloated about the national news coverage. And, more than two weeks later, when arrested by the FBI, he still had the spray paint, explosive devices, and other tools in the trunk of his car. Brewer’s hateful conduct demands a meaningful sentence of imprisonment. Not only to reflect the seriousness of the crime, but perhaps even more critically, to promote deterrence. Brewer is pleading guilty. There is no plea agreement, nor a stipulated factual basis, however. At sentencing, the government will present witnesses and exhibits to support its view of the facts, which Probation has credited and included in the Presentence Report’s summary of the offense conduct. Furthermore, relevant to the Sentencing Guidelines, the evidence is likely to show, by a preponderance, that the base offense level is 24, instead of 12. Most critically, though, the evidence will show that a reasonable sentence under section 3553(a) requires a meaningful sentence of imprisonment. Brewer’s crime involved more than spray-painting a swastika on a synagogue. It involved planning, overpressure bombs and homemade napalm, and a sense of excitement and pride in Brewer. Even if the Court does not conclude that Brewer’s base offense level is 24, the substantially lower base offense level of 12 2 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 3 of 19 PageID #: 354 hardly captures the full scope of Brewer’s beliefs and conduct before, during, and after committing the offense. Nor would a minimal prison sentence adequately afford deterrence, which is perhaps one of the most important sentencing considerations in case of this kind at this moment in time. Religious-bias hate crimes, particularly against those of the Jewish faith, have become more prevalent of late. The tragic incidents at synagogues in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and Poway, California in just the last few months underscore the danger of the recent escalation. This Court’s sentence should send a message that society cannot, and will not, tolerate deliberate criminal acts of hate targeted at a community’s faith. The government recommends a sentence within or reasonably close to the guidelines range at an offense level 24. BACKGROUND I. Factual Background The Presentence Report’s summary of the offense conduct accurately depicts the nature and circumstances of the crime. See PSR, Dkt. No. 52, at ¶¶ 7–24. The government will not restate that summary here. Instead, this section summarizes the evidence the government expects to introduce at sentencing to support the PSR’s factual summary and the PSR’s guidelines calculation using a base offense level of 24 (PSR ¶ 29). In general, the government’s evidence at sentencing, which will include witness testimony and the exhibits attached to this sentencing memorandum, falls into four categories. A. Brewer’s Attack on the Synagogue was Planned First, the evidence will show that the attack on the Synagogue was not a spontaneous, latenight childhood prank but was planned out and calculated to cause fear. See Exhs. 1–3 (photographs of defaced Synagogue). In fact, he said as much to a co-worker a few days after the 3 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 4 of 19 PageID #: 355 attack when she asked if it was a spur-of-the-moment decision: “No. We planned it… Okay. We planned it out the entire day before.” Exh. 57 at 4 (excerpts from transcript of covert consensually recorded conversation1). Brewer and his co-conspirator purchased supplies specifically for the attack. Walmart surveillance video and a receipt from the day before the attack show Brewer, in his German military jacket, and his co-conspirator purchasing red and black spray paint, rubber gloves, a roll of aluminum foil, a package of Styrofoam plates, eight bottles of Gatorade, two containers of Drano, and two bandanas. See Exhs. 6–9 (Walmart surveillance still images and receipt). These were the only items they purchased. When arrested, Brewer gave a statement to the FBI, which was recorded. See Exh. 10 (transcript of recorded statement).2 At first, he lied and denied ever going to the Synagogue. Id. at 19–20. This was not the only time Brewer lied to the FBI, though. For instance, Brewer told the FBI that an online persona called “Asbestos Peter,” whom Brewer claimed inspired their attack on the Synagogue, had “told us how to make napalm.” See Exh. 10 at 26. That is false. Brewer’s old phone contained a text message he sent dated April 29, 2018, three months before the Synagogue attack, which stated “Right now we’re just getting stuff for napalm.” See Exh. 54 at 6 (SMS Messages #2). Eventually, Brewer admitted to the FBI his involvement in the Synagogue attack and explained the use of the items they bought: the spray paint was for the Nazi flags and iron crosses, which measured several feet across, id. at 35; the Gatorade bottles, aluminum foil, and Drano were 1 The full audio is available and can be made available for the Court’s review. 2 The full audio is available and can be made available for the Court’s review. 4 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 5 of 19 PageID #: 356 for making overpressure explosive devices, referred to as “Drano bombs,”3 id. at 26, 36–37, 88, 91–92; and the Styrofoam plates were for mixing with gasoline to make a sticky flammable substance, referred to as homemade “napalm,” id. at 23, 37, 46, 91–93. (Additional evidence regarding the “napalm” includes a text message the day before the Synagogue attack from Brewer to his friend Alex Hitchcock (referred to as “Kona Chan”) about filling up a gas can, see Exh. 11, and a digital photo of the completed “napalm” mixture, see Exh. 12.) Furthermore, they chose their target specifically and planned how to get there. The Synagogue in Carmel, Indiana, was located over 50 miles from Brewer’s residence. Both Brewer and his co-conspirator sketched out a parking area and routes on maps on their cell phones. See Exhs. 4 (from Brewer’s phone) and 5 (from his co-conspirator’s phone). And they followed their plan. Brewer later admitted to the FBI that they parked at a Mormon Church – as shown on the map from Brewer’s phone (Exh. 4) – and walked over a mile from the parking place to the Synagogue, hauling all of their supplies, including the “napalm,” with them. See Exh. 10 at 32 (transcript of Brewer statement to FBI). Finally, when confronted, Brewer admitted he understood the gravity of his actions. When asked what impact the attack had on the members of the Synagogue, he responded, “Scare the hell 3 Drano cleaner and aluminum foil, when combined, can react to create a gas. Inside a sealed container, such as a Gatorade bottle, the mixture can potentially create an overpressure situation which causes the sealed container to explode. See, e.g., https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7ny.com/amp/news/exclusive-girl-burned-by-drano-bomb-onplayground-speaks-out/2108485/ https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/drano-bombs-explode-at-two-pendleton-homes http://www.nbcnews.com/id/51822636/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/how-kiera-wilmotsschool-bomb-could-have-killed-her/ According to Brewer, however, the type of Drano he purchased, which was a gel and not a liquid, did not cause that reaction. 5 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 6 of 19 PageID #: 357 out of them.” See Exh. 10 at 78. When asked what the purpose of the attack was, Brewer responded, “sending a message of like, get out I guess. Sending a message you know.” Id. at 95. B. Brewer Originally Intended to Break Into to the Synagogue Second, the government anticipates that the evidence will show that Brewer and his coconspirator originally intended to enter and set fire to the Synagogue itself but were unable to do so and thus settled for defacing and burning the ground around an enclosure on Synagogue property. A former co-worker of Brewer’s is expected to testify that, on the day after the incident, Brewer seemed unusually happy at work. When the co-worker asked why, Brewer said he had vandalized a Jewish synagogue with Nazi symbols and later showed her photos of the scene on his cell phone. See Exhs. 13 and 14. Brewer also told the co-worker that he and his wife originally planned to break into the Synagogue and wanted to find a way inside but, after arriving there, they got spooked and did not have enough time, so they targeted the external enclosure instead. Brewer himself admitted to the FBI that he and his co-conspirator had originally planned to break into the Synagogue and set fire to it. He told the FBI that the original plan was to “take the Drano bomb . . . and then toss the napalm on top of it, and then light it and run so that whenever the Drano bomb went off, it would set the napalm everywhere.” Id. at 92. He also admitted that they had brought with them ceramic pieces of spark plugs, which they believed contained chemical properties (“aluminum oxide”) that would help them break windows and enter the Synagogue. Id. at 89–91. When asked why they did not enter the building, though, Brewer’s statements evolved throughout the interview. At first, Brewer stated that they originally intended to enter the Synagogue but, when they walked up to the Synagogue, they saw lights and security cameras and became nervous, so they diverted to the external enclosure to spray paint and set fire. See Exh. 10 6 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 7 of 19 PageID #: 358 at 32–33, 81. Later, however, instead of the security cameras and lights causing them to change plans at the scene, Brewer stated that they decided not to set fire to the Synagogue “on the way up . . . on 465 heading north.” Id. at 92. C. Brewer Held Strong Beliefs in Nazism Third, the evidence is expected to show that Brewer’s hate crime was the product of fervent beliefs in Nazism, anti-Semitism, and white nationalism. Co-workers from two different jobs where Brewer worked during 2018 will testify that Brewer wore a swastika or an iron cross on a necklace, had a swastika on the background of his cell phone, routinely spoke about his admiration for Adolf Hitler and/or Nazism, and attempted to recruit co-workers to his Nazi views. Indeed, in his room at home, agents found a book by Adolf Hitler, a German flag hung above the bed, and an iron cross necklace prominently hung on the wall next to the door. See Exhs. 15–17. Additionally, Brewer’s cell phones contained numerous digital images, text messages, and other data that reinforce that he was a Nazi sympathizer who held racist and anti-Semitic beliefs, such as: Exhibit No. 18–20 21–22 23 24–25 26–37 38–43 44–50 51–53 54 Description Photos of himself wearing Nazi paraphernalia. Photos of his wife (co-conspirator) wearing Nazi paraphernalia. A photo of himself the German military jacket seen in the Walmart surveillance and his wife wearing a bandana. Photos titled “Little Sisters” depicting young female standing next to Nazi flag. Images of swastikas, iron crosses, and other Nazi paraphernalia, including the background wallpaper on Brewer’s cell phone throughout July 2018. Images identifying with Adolf Hitler and Nazism and Nazi ideology and text message to co-worker discussing Nazism. Anti-African American images and memes. Anti-Semitic images and memes. Anti-Hispanic text messages dated March 10, 2018, from Brewer’s old cell phone. (Page 10, Timeline #s 8 and 9.) 7 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 8 of 19 PageID #: 359 Exhibit No. 54 D. Description Google search history from Brewer’s old cell phone containing references to Hitler, Nazism, and anti-Semitism, including “swastika images” on April 9, 2018, and “when jews found out it wasn’t a shower meme” on April 12, 2018. (Pages 4–5, “Searched Items.”) Brewer Bragged About his Attack on the Synagogue Fourth, the evidence will show that, after the incident, Brewer was pleased and excited with what he had done at the Synagogue. As noted above, Brewer’s co-worker observed that he seemed unusually happy as he told her about what he had done and showed her the photos on his phone. In addition, Brewer’s text messages two days after the incident further substantiate his pride in defacing the Synagogue. In one exchange, his wife (co-conspirator) tells him that the incident made the news and that Vice President Mike Pence had tweeted about it. Brewer’s responded, “Hole f***ing sh*t!!!!! You’re not kidding are you?” She tells him she has taken “tons and tons of screenshots of comments” on the news stories, to which Brewer responded, “Yay!” See Exh. 55. A few hours later, Brewer texted his friend, Alex Hitchcock (a/k/a “Kona Chan”), and sent screenshots of news stories about the incident. Brewer said, “Buddy! Look! Holy sh*t! . . . It made FOX59 . . . Google it! The word synagogue is trending in Indiana and soon to go regional.” See Exh. 56. The government anticipates that Hitchcock will testify that Brewer admitted to him that he (Brewer) and his wife had attacked the Synagogue. Hitchcock is also expected to testify that Brewer and his wife said that they knew where the rabbi of the Synagogue lived, that it was a $500,000 house, and that they wanted to burn it down. Hitchcock is further expected to testify that 8 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 9 of 19 PageID #: 360 Brewer’s wife stated that if it had been up to her, they would have burned it down already, but Brewer had made up an excuse to leave after they had spray painted the Nazi symbols and set fire to the ground around them. Furthermore, a week later, Brewer talked again with a co-worker about the incident, his planning of it, and the nationwide response to it. He was giddy and proud of what he had done. At one point, he stated, while chuckling: Yeah if you actually drive down 70, you can see a billboard where it says Love and then it has the Jewish star of David in it, because like there’s, there’s like fourteen of those signs around Indiana now because they’re just trying to show some support for the people. See Exh. 57 at 3 (excerpts from transcript of covert consensually recorded conversation). His excitement was apparent, saying at one point, “You’ve got me smiling over here,” see id. at 5, and he talked about how there was a “2.5K bounty out for information on us, cause they have nothing,” and that “Mike Pence tweeted about us,” see id. at 3. Finally, more than two weeks after the incident, when arrested in his car on August 15, 2018, Brewer still had his supplies with him, including the spray paint, bandanas, Drano, and emptied Gatorade bottles still filled with rolled up pieces of aluminum foil. See Exhs. 58–67. The spray paint and the Gatorade bottles were still contained in a backpack and plastic grocery bag that Brewer admitted using to carry the supplies to the Synagogue. See Exh. 10 at 34–35. II. Procedural Background and Issues at Sentencing Brewer was charged by Criminal Complaint following his arrest on August 15, 2018. See Dkt. No. 2. Brewer was ordered released pending trial over the government’s objection and appeal to the district court. See Dkt. Nos. 13, 22, 25, 26, and 27. On September 12, 2018, the grand jury indicted Brewer on one count of Conspiracy to Violate Rights, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 241(a). 9 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 10 of 19 PageID #: 361 See Dkt. No. 28. On January 24, 2019, Brewer filed a Petition to Enter Plea of Guilty, without a plea agreement. See Dkt. No. 47. To date, there is no stipulated factual basis. Following disclosure of the initial PSR, Brewer submitted objections to various paragraphs of the offense conduct. See Final PSR Addendum, Dkt. No. 52 at 16. Brewer also lodged an objection to the Probation Office’s finding that the base offense level was 24. Id. at 17. The Probation Office responded that it stood by its guidelines calculation because Brewer’s conduct involved actual or attempted destruction of a building, land, or other location accessible or open to members of the public. Id. At sentencing, in addition to the ultimate sentencing determination under 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a), the parties will address the appropriate base offense level under U.S.S.G. § 2H1.1(a). ARGUMENT I. Base Offense Level Under U.S.S.G. § 2H1.1 Under the relevant hate crime guideline, U.S.S.G. 2H1.1(a), the base offense level equals the greater of the offense level applicable to any underlying offense, or level 12. Here, as the PSR points out, the relevant underlying offense is arson, which is governed by U.S.S.G. § 2K1.4. Under that guideline, the base offense level is 24 if the offense involved the actual or attempted destruction of “a place of public use.” U.S.S.G. § 2K1.4(a)(1). Congregation Shaarey Tefilla is “a place of public use.” See 18 U.S.C. § 2332f(e)(6) (defining “place of public use” as “those parts of any building, land, street, waterway, or other location that are accessible or open to members of the public, whether continuously, periodically, or occasionally, and encompasses any commercial, business, cultural, historical, educational, religious, governmental, entertainment, recreational, or similar place that is so accessible or open to the public”). Therefore, the key guidelines issue in 10 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 11 of 19 PageID #: 362 this case is whether, by a preponderance, the evidence shows that Brewer attempted to destroy the Synagogue. “Attempt” involves both the intent to commit an act and a “substantial step” toward committing the act. See United States v. Rovetuso, 768 F.2d 809, 821–22 (7th Cir. 1985). A “substantial step” must be “conduct strongly corroborative of the firmness of the defendant’s criminal intent.” Id. The Seventh Circuit has characterized a “substantial step” this way: A substantial step is some overt act adapted to, approximating, and which in the ordinary and likely course of things will result in, the commission of the particular crime. It requires something more than mere preparation, but less than the last act necessary before actual commission of the substantive crime. This line between mere preparation and a substantial step is inherently fact specific; conduct that would appear to be mere preparation in one case might qualify as a substantial step in another. Generally, a defendant takes a substantial step when his actions make it reasonably clear that had the defendant not been interrupted or made a mistake he would have completed the crime. United States v. Muratovic, 719 F.3d 809, 815 (7th Cir. 2013) (internal quotations omitted). In evaluating whether conduct constitutes a substantial step, “the focus is on the actions already taken to complete the underlying crime, not on the acts that remain uncompleted at the time of the arrest.” United States v. Sanchez, 615 F.3d 836, 844 (7th Cir. 2010). Here, Brewer admitted to the FBI that their plan was to break into the Synagogue, using the ceramic pieces, and then “take the Drano bomb . . . and then toss the napalm on top of it, and then light it and run so that whenever the Drano bomb went off, it would set the napalm everywhere.” See Exh. 10 at 92. Such evidence strongly indicates that Brewer had the intent to set fire to the Synagogue. Thus, the question is whether he carried through on his plan to the point of taking a “substantial step.” The anticipated testimony and other evidence, if found credible by the Court, supports such a finding by a preponderance of the evidence: 11 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 12 of 19 PageID #: 363  Brewer told the FBI that he only decided not to enter the Synagogue after seeing the Synagogue’s lights and security cameras.  Brewer told a co-worker that he intended to break into the Synagogue and wanted to find a way inside, but when he got there, he got spooked and diverted to the external enclosure.  Brewer brought along pieces of spark plug ceramic casing because he believed he could use them to break the Synagogue’s glass windows.  Brewer made “Drano bombs” and carried them by foot in a backpack over one mile to the Synagogue, but then never deployed them.  Brewer made homemade napalm by combining gasoline and Styrofoam in a saucepan and carried it by foot over one mile to the Synagogue.  Brewer and his co-conspirator later told his friend, Alex Hitchcock, that they planned to burn down the rabbi’s house and knew where the rabbi lived.  Brewer was found over two weeks later still with the Drano bombs, spray paint, and ceramic spark plug pieces in the trunk of his car. The notion that Brewer’s original plan was only to target the external outbuilding structure with spray paint and fire, and not the Synagogue itself, is nonsensical. This is what he claims in his PSR Objection No. 2, and what his story evolved to during his statement to the FBI (“on 465 heading north”). This position is not supported by the evidence. Brewer did not carry spark plug casings, napalm, and eight Drano bombs – which were never used – when he only intended to spray paint an external structure housing a garbage dumpster. It is unlikely Brewer even knew the external structure, located in the back of the Synagogue’s property, even existed before arriving at the Synagogue in the middle of the night. 12 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 13 of 19 PageID #: 364 What is more likely – and is proven by a preponderance of the evidence – is what he told his co-worker and what he told the FBI (before he minimized): He intended to break into the Synagogue and set fire to it up to the point when they reached the Synagogue itself. They did not find an easy way inside, and in the process, they noticed the security lights and cameras around the Synagogue’s exterior, so they diverted to the external structure to send their hateful message. In other words, but for the Synagogue’s security measures, Brewer was likely to have completed the destruction of the Synagogue, which he had originally set out to do. This sequence of events – which is more credible and corroborated than the notion that Brewer’s only intent was to graffiti an outbuilding – constitutes an attempt, which results in a base offense level of 24.4 II. A Meaningful Prison Sentence is Required by Section 3553(a) A sentence of imprisonment within the advisory guidelines range assuming a base offense level of 24 (a range of 51–63 months), or reasonably close to the low-end of that range, is sufficient but not greater than necessary. Thus, if the Court concludes that the base offense level is 12 and not 24, the Court should vary upwards. A base offense level of 12 does not adequately capture the nature and circumstances of the offense and Brewer’s history and characteristics, nor promote meaningful deterrence given today’s hate crime landscape. See United States v. White, 883 F.3d 983, 987 (7th Cir. 2018) (“When a judge explains that a disputed guideline issue ultimately did not matter for the exercise of sentencing discretion under § 3553(a), we will treat an arguable error in the guideline calculation as harmless.”). 4 One other note regarding the Guidelines calculation in this case: To receive any reduction for acceptance of responsibility, Brewer must not “falsely deny” or “frivolously contest” relevant conduct. See U.S.S.G. § 3E1.1 app. n. 1(A). In his objections to the PSR, Brewer stated that he “never intended . . . to set fire to the synagogue itself” and that Brewer “withdrew from any further conspiracy to violate rights after he and K.B. vandalized the synagogue.” PSR at 17. As noted herein, the evidence at sentencing is expected to show otherwise as to both points. 13 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 14 of 19 PageID #: 365 A. Nature and Circumstances of the Offense The nature and circumstances of Brewer’s hate crime are best summarized by the victim impact statement in this case: “Short of injury or death . . . nothing instills more intense emotion in the Jewish community than images and language from the Nazi era when six million Jews were murdered.” See Dkt. No. 60. Two massive Nazi flags, and flanked by Iron Crosses and a patch of scorched earth, struck fear into the Congregation Shaarey Tefilla and members of the Jewish community throughout central Indiana. Brewer knew this. Indeed, as with many hate crime offenses, instilling fear was his purpose for committing this brazen act. But Brewer’s is not a mine-run hate crime case. Several facts exacerbate his culpability. For example, Brewer targeted a house of worship, not a private residence or community organization. Such a target, which was over 50 miles from Brewer’s residence, reflects not only a level of planning but also an attempt to maximize the impact of his conduct. Furthermore, along these lines, Brewer did not target an individual or small group, but rather a congregation of people. It was planned and designed to instill fear among an entire community – to “scare the hell out of them,” as Brewer told the FBI. And, in the days that followed, Brewer relished his sense of accomplishment as he read and shared national news stories and chuckled about the outpouring of support on billboards throughout Indiana. Additionally, as discussed at length above, Brewer’s conduct involved much more than spray paint. He and his wife planned it out in advance. They targeted a place of worship 50 miles from their home. They purchased supplies for and made “Drano bombs” and homemade “napalm,” which they carried for over a mile from their parking spot – along with their ceramic spark plug pieces that they believed could help break windows – with the intent to break into the 14 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 15 of 19 PageID #: 366 Synagogue and set it on fire. None of those circumstances of the offense are captured in a base offense level of 12. Rather, a base offense level of 12 would apply if all Brewer had done was spray paint a swastika. But that ignores the worst of his conduct. It ignores the true “seriousness of the offense.” Therefore, even if the Court does not conclude that Brewer’s conduct legally constituted a “substantial step” to trigger a base offense level of 24, the Court should vary upwards to hold Brewer accountable for the full scope of his malicious intent, level of planning, the danger he posed, and the closeness to which he came in making that danger a reality. B. History and Characteristics of the Defendant Just as Brewer’s hate crime was not a spontaneous event, neither was Brewer’s affinity for the hateful ideology that motivated it. The evidence will show that, for months at least, Brewer had been obsessed with Nazism and white nationalism. He talked about it with co-workers whenever they would listen. And, to corroborate the co-workers’ testimony, his cell phones were replete with Nazi paraphernalia and blatantly racist and anti-Semitic symbols and memes. That Brewer may have been introduced to the Nazi ideology by others does not mitigate his culpability. At sentencing, the government anticipates that Brewer will point to his coconspirator wife as the driver behind his Nazi beliefs and one of the instigators in the attack on the Synagogue, since she had previously participated in vandalizing two churches in southern Indiana. The other instigator Brewer has pointed to is an online persona referred to as “Asbestos Peter,” with whom his wife appears to have communicated via social media. During his interview with the FBI, Brewer routinely blamed the “Asbestos Peter” user as the source for the ideas of attacking the Synagogue, making Drano bombs, and concocting homemade napalm. See Exh. 10 at 23–29. 15 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 16 of 19 PageID #: 367 Such claims should have little bearing on Brewer’s sentence for at least three reasons. First, Brewer was not a reluctant participant. The attack on the Synagogue was planned and prepared for, and Brewer participated fully in it. Second, along these lines, the Guidelines already adequately account for his role in the offense. Although Brewer is being convicted of a conspiracy, there is no U.S.S.G. § 3B1.1 enhancement for “organizer, leader, manager, supervisor.” At the same time, no reduction for a “mitigating role” is appropriate. The evidence shows that Brewer was at least equally culpable as his co-conspirator wife. Third, the fact that Brewer may have been radicalized into Nazi ideology by his wife, through social media, or from any other source, is irrelevant. People become radicalized by others – that is the nature of any radicalization. What is relevant is Brewer’s receptiveness to the Nazi ideology, the thinking of Adolf Hitler, and the racism and anti-Semitism that accompanies it. And the evidence shows that Brewer was, for months, not only receptive but trying to spread the ideology to others. Lastly, Brewer’s rehabilitative efforts since his arrest should have little bearing on the Court’s ultimate sentencing determination. The government anticipates that Brewer will highlight those efforts at sentencing. But a person’s true character is not exhibited after they are caught – rather, it is on display when they believe no one is looking. For Brewer, his true character can be measured not only by his Nazi ideology leading up to the Synagogue attack, but perhaps even more telling, by the excitement, pleasure, and pride he openly displayed in the weeks following it. At no point did he express remorse or regret for what he had done. Just the opposite. He showed off photos of the Nazi flags and fire burning, he bragged about the reward offered for information about the crime, and he was proud of the attention his hateful act garnered, including attention from the Vice President. Moreover, when 16 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 17 of 19 PageID #: 368 arrested, he still had the spray paint, Drano bombs, and other supplies in his trunk. Keeping the tools of one’s criminal tradecraft in their possession is not consistent with remorse and regret – nor is it consistent with a withdrawal from a conspiracy, as Brewer suggested in his PSR Objections. Instead, it is consistent with someone who felt exhilarated by what he had done and desired to do it again in the future. C. Promoting Respect for the Law and Affording Adequate Deterrence Brewer’s attack on the Congregation Shaarey Tefilla was part of a troubling national trend. In recent years, anti-Jewish hate crimes have become more prevalent in the United States. This is not only anecdotally true – although mass tragedies such as the shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in October 2018,5 and the shooting at the synagogue in Poway, California just three weeks ago, on April 27, 2019,6 call attention to the problem. The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting data show that hate crimes motivated by religious bias have increased 52% over just the past six years.7 In fact, between just 2016 and 2017 (the last year data is available), the incidence of such crimes increased by 21%. In raw numbers, in 2016, there were approximately 1,291 religious-bias motivated hate crime incidents in the United States. In 2017, there were approximately 1,563, nearly 300 more in just one year. Anti-Jewish hate crimes have consistently represented the majority of all religious-bias motivated hate crime incidents. In 2017, anti-Jewish hate crimes represented 58.1% of such hate 5 A copy of the federal charges are available at https://www.justice.gov/opa/pressrelease/file/1125336/download 6 A summary of the federal charges are available at https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/alleged-synagogueshooter-charged-federal-hate-crimes 7 Uniform Crime Reporting data on hate crimes is available for each year between 1995 through 2017 from FBI Criminal Justice Information Services Division’s Hate Crime Statistics, available at https://ucr.fbi.gov/hatecrime. The data discussed herein is available by clicking the “Access Tables” link under the “Incidents and Offenses” heading on each year’s hate crime statistics page. 17 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 18 of 19 PageID #: 369 crimes, up from 54.2% the year before, and 51.3% the year before that. The next most prevalent hate crime target, those of the Muslim faith, comprised between 18%–22% over the same threeyear period. Section 3553(a) instructs that a sentence should afford adequate deterrence. That includes not only deterring Brewer, but most relevant here, deterring others who might think to commit similar offenses. See United States v. Brown, 880 F.3d 399, 405 (7th Cir. 2018). The hate crime data, and the recent violence at Jewish synagogues, reinforce the need for general deterrence for crimes such as Brewer’s. This Court’s sentence should send a message that there is a high cost for committing hate crimes, especially those that target houses of worship. That cost is federal prison. And, in this case, that is a meaningful term of imprisonment within or is reasonably close to the guidelines range at offense level 24. CONCLUSION For the foregoing reasons, the government respectfully requests that the Court sentence the Defendant, Nolan Brewer, to a term of imprisonment within or reasonably close to the guidelines range at offense level 24, a term of supervised release of 3 years, and restitution as set forth in the Presentence Report. Respectfully submitted, JOSH J. MINKLER United States Attorney Date: May 15, 2019 By: /s/ Nicholas J. Linder Nicholas J. Linder Assistant United States Attorney 18 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63 Filed 05/15/19 Page 19 of 19 PageID #: 370 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE I hereby certify that on May 15, 2019 a copy of the foregoing, and the attached exhibits, were filed via CM/ECF, which will electronically notify counsel of record for all parties. All parties may access this filing through that CM/ECF. By: /s/ Nicholas J. Linder Nicholas J. 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Bookwalter (BB) Special Agent Eric Kish (EK) Special Agent Glenn Carlson (GC) Nolan Brewer (NB) Operational Support Technician Lester Bland (LB) Operational Support Technician Brianna Tillery (BT) Task Force Officer (TFO) Paul Baker (PB) Abbreviations: (OV) (UI) (IA) Overlapping Voices Unintelligible Inaudible The following is a transcript of a recorded conversation between Nolan Brewer, SA Brad Bookwalter, SA Eric Kish and SA Glenn Carlson which occurred on August 15, 2018. 1 10 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 11 of 108 PageID #: 381 BB: Test one, two. Test one, two. This is Special Agent Bradley A. Bookwalter. The time right now is 7:15 a.m. gonna be interviewing uhh, Nolan Brewer. Test one, two. [(UI) background conversation] PB: You got any, you got any weapons, uhh guns anything like that? Okay you got a cell phone anything like that on you? NB: (UI) PB: Which pocket? Just tell me which one. NB: This (UI) PB: (UI) This one right here? NB: Yeah umm, no this one PB: It’s on your charger? BB: You Nolan Brewer? Hey Nolan I’m, I’m Brad Bookwalter with the FBI, I’m a special agent. This is Eric Kish, he’s special agent with the FBI also. Uhh, uh you’ve been stopped today because we have a federal search warrant for your vehicle and for your person. Okay. And uh, uhh you’re not in custody right now, okay but umm we do desire your cooperation so I’m going to advise you of your rights, okay. NB: Mhm BB: Alright so, I’m going read your rights from this card. Before we ask any, any questions you must understand your rights. You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can be used against you in court. You have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before we ask you any questions. You have the right to have a lawyer with you during the questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before any questioning, if you wish. If you decide to answer questions now without a lawyer present. You have the right to stop answering at any time. Do you understand your rights? NB: Yeah, I’m pretty sure. BB: Pretty sure or do you understand? Do you, do you want to read this, this form? 2 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 12 of 108 PageID #: 382 NB: Yeah. BB: Okay, once again Nolan uhh Eric and I we’re Special Agents with, with the FBI. We’re federal agents. NB: Mhm. BB: Okay, and this is a federal investigation and we got federal warrants for the vehicle and for your person and we can explain it all, we can explain it all to you but know, you’re not in custody right now. Okay. Uhh I am advising you of your rights because we desire to talk to you and desire your cooperation in our investigation. NB: Okay, I (UI) BB: Okay. Go ahead and read through that. And where is your phone? Your phone’s in here. UM: It’s underneath the uhh arm rest. NB: It’s under the arm rest. I keep it there so it don’t play with it while I’m driving BB: I got it. Uh, is, is Glenn up here? PB: Yeah BB: Umm, phone’s under the arm rest in the vehicle from the (UI) [(UI) conversation] EK: He said he understood. BB: (UI) Whats that? NB: It’s easier to read it. BB: I got ya, okay. So you understand? NB: Yeah. BB: Okay and you’re, you’re willing to talk to us right now? 3 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 13 of 108 PageID #: 383 NB: Yeah. BB: Cooperate. Okay. Uhh first thing we need, we need the passcode to your phone so we can get in it, is there a passcode on it? NB: Yeah BB: Just to, just so…. NB: Its like top left middle then you go down one diagonal, down one and then up all the way to the top right BB: Okay NB: And then it. It’s just look like a weird double (UI) BB: So hang on… stay right there… Hey Glenn, he’ll, he’ll show you it’s a pattern, he’ll show ya.Do you have any weapons on you, just the, just the knife. [(UI) conversation] BB: He’s gonna pat you down for our safety. NB: (UI) My wallet. It (UI) pants kind of hard to get out of BB: Alright, well we, we can get that. I just want to make sure there’s no weapons. (UI) Okay, UI: So (UI) BB: Yeah UM: (UI) GC: Okay so… [5:00] BB: Nolan so uhh like I said, we have search warrants for your vehicle so uhh it might be easier to show them to ya, are, are you, we really desire your cooperation okay uhh Eric and I would like to interview you uhh NB: the car or whatever? 4 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 14 of 108 PageID #: 384 BB: Yeah, I, I think what, what might be best since uhh is, is to get you out of public view here and get in the vehicle, would you be willing to , to NB: Hop in and go? BB: Yeah just, yeah just jump, jump in with us NB: (UI) BB: Okay. Uhh (UI) alright, com on. Go ahead and jump in the passenger side. PB: Hey Nolan, can you do that one more time for me? BB: Mmm, yeah, this is a nice vehicle. It’s not mine so. NB: Sadly it’s not yours BB: Yeah, sadly exactly. We’ll, we’ll just go some place out of the way here. Uhh, Like I told ya, you’re not in custody, okay. So you’re, you’re willing to uhh, or your uhh certainly welcome to, we can, we can drop you off somewhere or whatever you want to do but like I said we, we’d like to talk to you. And we’re hoping that you will, you’ll cooperate with us. NB: I’ll cooperate as much as needs be. BB: Okay. Alright well we, we appreciate that. Got your seat belt? Good man. Just going to pull all the way over here I think. NB: Five seconds saves a life, why not? BB: Amen. NB: I should’ve been familiar with those rights, my mom always watches crime shows. BB: Is that right? NB: Yeah 5 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 15 of 108 PageID #: 385 BB: now, just so just so I can get your uhh, uh background and your identifiers. Nolan, it’s Nolan Brewer right? NB: Mhm BB: B-R-E-W-E-R NB: Yeah like the coffee brewer BB: Gotcha, and uhh what’s your date of birth Nolan? NB: Uhh, BB: What’s your uhh SOC? NB: I’m pretty sure it’s BB: Okay. NB: I always get like the One-Nine and the One-Four mixed BB: Okay. Where, where do you live? 1998. NB: eight-two-two-eight. North Bowman Road. BB: Okay NB: Have for my entire life BB: NB: Yeah BB: Yeah, really it’s…. NB: Well BB: Yeah NB: Technically it’s 6 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 16 of 108 PageID #: 386 BB: It’s technically it’s a NB: —it’s a address though right? address technically Morgan County you can literally throw a stone over into Putnam BB: Gotcha and uhh I mean it’s, you went to uhh School in NB: Yeah BB: Okay. Umm NB: It was fun. BB: And uhh what’s your uhh, what’s your cell number? NB: Eh, the current one? BB: Yeah NB: Seven-Six-Five-Seven-One-Two BB: Mhm NB: Zero-Seven-Five-Three BB: Okay, say that again NB: Seven-Six-Five BB: Seven-Six-Five NB: Seven-One-Two BB: Uh huh NB: Zero-Seven-Five-Three BB: Zero-Seven-Five-Three 7 ight? Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 17 of 108 PageID #: 387 NB: Lots of sevens BB: That’s the one that uhh NB: Yeah the current one BB: it was back there? Okay. When did you get that one? NB: That was…. I think a little over a month ago. BB: Okay. NB: It’s a new phone still, I’m still getting used to it BB: And uhh do you have a uhh an email address that you use that’s affiliated with that? NB: NRBrewer7@gmail.com BB: NRBrewer7… @gmail.com NB: I had to reset a bunch of crap recently because it got hacked which was so much fun. BB: What’s that your uhh phone did? Or your uhh NB: My… BB: your email. NB: Like my phone and email both got hacked and people were like taking pictures and crap off of it. BB: Oh really? NB: Yeah BB: Okay, when was that? NB: That was just this past week and my wife was just like what the hell is going on? BB: What, tell, tell me about it. 8 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 18 of 108 PageID #: 388 NB: Well there were uhh, there was like a book, like pages of a book that was like talking about a minority BB: Uh huh NB: Not, not well there’s a minority and a minor and like sexual contact and her and I are just like we’re gonna get rid of this cause this is really uncomfortable cause I didn’t know where it came from BB: Okay NB: She saw that there was something about a minor on her husband’s phone so rightfully so BB: Okay NB: she got pretty angry BB: Yeah NB: And BB: Now, who, who is your wife? NB: Uhh Kiyomi Brewer BB: Okay, is, how old is she. NB: She’s 17. BB: 17. Okay. Uhh tell me, tell me, how does that work? NB: Huh? BB: how, how did, how did, how would, how could she get married at 17? NB: Uhh well at the age of 16 you need a guardian to sign and then you also have to pay a fee to get like a court order BB: Mhm 9 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 19 of 108 PageID #: 389 NB: Or something like that. But at 17 you no longer need to pay for the court order and you just need a legal guardian to sign BB: Legal guardian NB: and her grandfather signed for her BB: Okay is NB: Because her parents aren’t exactly in the picture BB: Why, why is that? NB: Her mother is a crazy meth addict who got rid of her at birth and her father was, planted seed and left town. BB: Okay, gotcha. So, she, she never knew her father then? NB: She, she knew him but she didn’t meet him until she was fifteen and then they, didn’t get along very well. BB: Okay, gotcha. And uhh how long have you been married? NB: About, ever since May 8th so. BB: This year? NB: Yeah BB: Oh okay NB: This year it’s nice and new BB: Okay. Gotcha. Uhh you’re welcome, you’re welcome to inspect our credentials again if you want, I mean you looked at them back there, you, you’re good we’re, we’re FBI Agents umm you’re welcome to look at the uhh NB: This is a lot of official looking paperwork for someone trying to put up an act 10 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 20 of 108 PageID #: 390 BB: Yeah, yeah, exactly, uhh. Those are the, those are the warrants if you want to look at them it, like I said it’s for the vehicle and for you uhh, that’s for you and then uhh see right there that’s you and then your, your vehicle RPK798. Okay. Umm. So uhh, go, go, go on with uhh what you were telling me. NB: Oh the uhh, book BB: Yeah, yeah yeah NB: Yeah she got rightfully angry about her husband apparently having stuff about a minor and a minority on her, well the minority is not that big of a deal but like the minor BB: Yeah NB: that’s pedophile BB: Yeah NB: that’s ick BB: Yeah, exactly NB: Umm, she would like basically badger me cause I was planning on hanging out with one of my little cousins that day so she’s like yeah, have fun with her just don’t molest her and then I’m like what and so I talked to her about it and apparently BB: One of your cousins, she’s telling you this? NB: Yeah BB: Okay NB: Yeah because the stuff on, the stuff that was put on to my phone BB: Yeah NB: And she got really angry at me and we kind of didn’t talk for this past week very much BB: Uh huh 11 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 21 of 108 PageID #: 391 NB: And I finally talked to her about it and she said she would try and talk to some friends to see if they could figure out who put that on my phone because she has a lot of techy friends BB: Okay NB: Cause she used to be in engineering and BB: What do you do by the way? NB: Oh, I, I do uhh Tradesman work for Tradesman International BB: Okay NB: And I was actually gonna call for trying to apply to the ironwork union today BB: Oh okay, alright. NB: Open application, finally. BB: Well in a few minutes, if you, if you want to call uhh we can, we can use my phone and call let them know you’re going to be late to work if uhh if you need to. NB: The supervisor freaking loves me BB: Okay NB: he’ll be fine. BB: Okay. NB: I’ll talk to him whenever I get there and BB: Okay NB: And he’ll be like oh wow, okay. BB: By the way you’re, you’re welcome to take off the, the seatbelt you don’t have to if you, if it’s not comfortable. 12 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 22 of 108 PageID #: 392 NB: (UI) BB: Uhh and there’s, there’s a water right there by the way uhh… help yourself, help yourself NB: Complimentary drinks and everything BB: Yeah it’s one of those mornings, it’s uhh kind of uhh, uhh just a little bit of humidity out there soo NB: Sticks to you a little bit BB: Yeah. So umm how did this, how’d this happen, the thing with your phone NB: Mm… I think as far as I’ve been able to figure out I think it might be this guy Jason that I used to talk to back at IUPUI because I used to got to IUPUI BB: Mhm NB: And he said he needed to get one of his documents sent to his own email address but his phone was dead so I let him hop on my email address. He plugged in a flash drive took the file out put it in my Google, sent it over to his BB: Into, into your computer? NB: Yeah BB: Where is your computer? NB: My computer? I recently sold it. BB: Okay NB: And then my other one at home, I haven’t used since I was back at Ivy Tech which was like a year before IUPUI, it was like one of the 2-in-1 tablet pieces of crap BB: Oh okay NB: from Walmart BB: So only thing you got at home is, is a tablet? 13 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 23 of 108 PageID #: 393 NB: Yeah it’s like the 2-in-1 tablet BB: Yeah NB: You like pull it out and flip the keyboard around BB: So you’re, you’re at IUPUI right now? NB: No BB: Okay NB: I, I’m done at IUPUI BB: Oh NB: Officially in the workforce BB: Okay NB: adult life BB: Did you, did you get a degree or did you graduate? NB: Uhh, I have an Associate’s degree that it took me one year to get at Ivy Tech and then I have an HR certification BB: Okay NB: From IUPUI BB: HR? NB: Yeah BB: Oh nice. NB: Technically Organizational Leadership but it’s 14 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 24 of 108 PageID #: 394 BB: Yeah, yeah NB: deemed the same thing BB: Okay, when’d, when’d you get that? NB: That was… the Fall semester at IUPUI this past year BB: Oh okay NB: Yeah, it was like 2017 beginning, beginning of 2018 BB: Yeah NB: Cause it was soaking up all my time to work at my second job which is GetGo Café and Market BB: Where at? NB: At GetGo Café and market. BB: Plainfield? NB: Yeah corner of Forty and Ronald Reagan. BB: Gotcha. Okay. Yeah I know where that’s at. NB: I do cooler inventory management there BB: Okay NB: And it was soaking up all my time to do that, so I hardly got any vacation time I got like 19 hours of vacation time BB: Yeah you’ve been working pretty hard, huh. NB: It was a wonderful deal BB: Gotcha, now what’s, now what’s this (referring to camouflage jacket being worn by Brewer)? This is uhh 15 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 25 of 108 PageID #: 395 NB: Oh this is, this is a family relic BB: Okay NB: This is from my grandfather BB: What is it? NB: It’s a German flecktarn BB: Okay. He was in the uhh German army? NB: Yeah he’s, he’s a sturdy old man, he’s like BB: Yeah NB: He’s getting pretty up close towards ninety and he fell, broke his hip and it was BB: Uh huh NB: completely out of the hospital and walking BB: (OV) Uh huh NB: two days later BB: Is uh, where does he live NB: He lives down in Mooresville just across the interstate. BB: Okay. Is umm… that and that’s his? NB: Yeah, used to be BB: Okay, When was he in the German army? NB: He was in the German Army during the early, early-mid 50s BB: Okay, alright. So after World War II? 16 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 26 of 108 PageID #: 396 NB: Yeah BB: Okay alright, Umm any uhh I guess any affiliation with the, the old German Army? NB: There was an old necklace that he gave me BB: Okay NB: But BB: Are you wearing it? NB: No, no BB: Oh okay NB: My wife and I have been, uhh I, I used to be into that sort of thing but my wife and I have been getting in quarrels due to it BB: Yeah NB: So I’m, you know being a good husband and learning to be more accepting of people and it’s gone pretty well because I’m making a lot more friends at work and I’m BB: Good NB: not as angry of a person all the time BB: Uh huh, what were you angry about? NB: I just, I can see like mental differences between me and non, non-whites but it’s just, that’s how they are so I’m learning to be more accepting of it and she, whenever she saw the necklace, the first time she got really angry grabbed it, pulled it so hard the chain broke off my neck and then threw it into my uncle’s lake BB: What uhh, what type, what, what’s in the, or what was the necklace? NB: The necklace was a, it was a Irish the old celtic (PH), knot type stuff but it made a swastika 17 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 27 of 108 PageID #: 397 BB: Okay NB: And it was just a family relic that my grandfather gave me BB: Gotcha NB: In which there, because it was like right after the war he was raised with that sort of thing because he was alive during it BB: Mhm NB: He was sort of a Hit, he was kind of in the Hitler youth and he has jokes every now and then where he’ll act like he has dementia and whenever we say prost at family gatherings which is German for Cheers BB: Uh huh NB: He’ll, he’ll just afterwards act all ditzy and say Heil Hitler, and we’re like grandpa no. BB: Eh NB: So BB: Do you uhh, do you ascribe to any of that uhh philosophy or? NB: The uhh, I it’s, I subscribe to more of the economics of it now rather than the social aspect BB: Okay NB: Cause the economics were phenomenal, they made Germany who was like, it was like five hundred thousand reich marks between World War I and World War II in order to buy a single loaf of bread BB: Uh huh NB: And it went down to like 17 reich marks for a loaf of bread within three years. BB: Okay 18 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 28 of 108 PageID #: 398 NB: That kind of, that king of deflation just doesn’t happen naturally BB: Mhm NB: So, there was really good recovery economics and it was really good sustainability economics because it was 17 reich marks the entire time he was in power but after that it still you know went to crap cause, blame Germany for the war. War debt, inflation. BB: Yeah NB: How economics works and then BB: Uh, but there a lot of social issues that uhh go along with that NB: Yeah there’s the, that’s BB: (OV) and I think that’s… yeah NB: why I’m economics and then trying to stick away from socialW so. BB: Okay. NB: And I’m BB: Well uhh, let, let’s talk about NB: (OV) recovering, I guess you could say from that BB: Okay… Okay. Lets talk for a second about the, the soc, one of the social issues, uhh July 27th uhh NB: Oh BB: Two Fridays, two Fridays ago NB: Whoa, yeah I heard Mike Pence tweeted about that place BB: Uhh Congregation Shaarey Tefilla in Carmel 19 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 29 of 108 PageID #: 399 NB: Mhm BB: Uhh, you ever been there NB: Not that I know of, I don’t go up to Carmel too often, the closest I’ve been there is going up to the Zionsville Road main office for Tradesman BB: Right, okay. Do you know, do you know what it is? NB: Ehh, looks like a church to me. BB: It’s a Jewish synagogue. NB: Oh. Oh. That’s the uhh, wasn’t that place vandalized or something? Yeah, yeah it was. BB: Yeah. Had uhh, had two Nazi flags painted, one on the south wall, one on the west wall or uhh yeah west wall and then uhh two iron crosses in the, on the south wall as well as some homemade napalm uhh with which looks possibly to have been uhh had been spread with a Drano bomb or something like that. Uhh so why, why don’t, why don’t you tell me what you know about that. NB: That looks like a bunch of crap, crappy radicals to me BB: Okay. What do you mean crappy radicals? NB: I mean, I was always raised with the Nazi notion of like acting out is not the way, you’re supposed to represent yourself properly, work hard, and show them hey I can be this productive overtop of this person BB: Mhm NB: So, at work I always work my ass off and try to well, pardon my French but work my ass off and BB: Yep NB: try to represent who we are better than others do BB: Okay 20 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 30 of 108 PageID #: 400 NB: So like you always try and dress neatly, you try and keep yourself clear and fullmanicured and strive to get good grades BB: Right NB: Which why I took, which is another reason why I took on the burden of getting my Associate’s from instead of 2 years in 1 year. BB: Okay. Alright well see you, you remember when I told ya NB: Yeah BB: You’re uhh, you’re able to stop talking at any time if, if you want to so, uhh but what I’m gonna ask you is to tell us the truth here. Okay. If you’re gonna talk to us, uhh and gonna cooperate NB: Mhm BB: Uhh you need to tell us the truth okay NB: Okay BB: Uhh cause we, we know a lot here and uhh if you lie that’s another federal offense okay. Uhh 18 U.S.C. 1001 NB: Mhm. BB: Makes it a federal offense to lie to, to uhh us in the conduct of this investigation, this is a federal investigation uhh you’re, you’re right, I mean it looks, it sounds, I mean its looks kind of pretty radical to uhh start a big fire like that and, and uhh uhh you know use a, use homemade napalm and uhh the Drano bomb uhh to do it, as well as you know to paint this kind of stuff at a uhh, a Jewish synagogue, I mean you understand what those symbols uhh mean to the Jews right? NB: Yeah, Yeah. BB: 6 million, 6 million killed during World War II right? NB: I thought, I was always told it was 4 million. 21 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 31 of 108 PageID #: 401 BB: Okay. Still a lot NB: Yeah, it’s still, still crap though so BB: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, umm so let, let’s, let’s revisit where were you on July 27th, it was a Friday, two Friday’s ago. Where, where were you that day? NB: July 27th… you said two Friday’s ago? BB: Mhm EK: Hey Nolan remember it, it’s fairly easy if someone had a phone with them or someone was with someone else and someone had a phone things like that, that check that so honesty is definitely in your best interest. BB: Yeah and know that we’re, we’re executing the search, the search warrants now. EK: Right BB: Uhh there’s Drano in your trunk okay, so EK: Don’t dig the hole deeper BB: Yeah. NB: Alright BB: So… the 27th, July 27th okay today is the 15th right, so one, two… yeah, two and a half weeks ago. I think you know where you were that day right? NB: Yeah BB: So, (SA Bookwalter displayed Walmart surveillance pictures) you went to Walmart that day right? NB: Mhm BB: That’s your vehicle. And that’s you and uhh Kiyomi right? NB: Yeah 22 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 32 of 108 PageID #: 402 BB: That would be red spray paint, that would be black spray paint, that would be you in the same jacket walking out uhh, that day you purchased two eighty in, eight-two ounce bottles of Drano umm, aluminum foil, uhh red spray paint, two cans of red pray—spray paint, two cans of black spray paint. Uhhhh some umm, do you remember what else you purchased? NB: Gas and styrofoam cups. BB: Okay, mmm tell, tell me about that. Tell us what was the purpose of that, that NB: It’s obvious BB: Well I know, but I’m asking ya NB: It was the napalm BB: Okay. So homemade napalm NB: You’re wanting, you’re wanting honesty so. BB: Yeah. Absolutely. OK. NB: Mhm. BB: What uhh, what, what was the, the purpose of it? Buying that? NB: We were assigned by a friend… in Europe… he said go after it… so we went after it BB: Okay, tell, tell us about that. Who is this friend in Europe? NB: Uhh, we don’t know his name, he just, he’s been getting banned off of Discord recently. BB: Uh huh. NB: And whenever we were talking to him, his name was Asbestos Peter BB: Mhm 23 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 33 of 108 PageID #: 403 NB: which based off of a nickname from awhile back but Asbestos Peter has been, he was like trying to instigate radicalism and trying to…get more people to be activists in certain fields of discussion BB: Okay NB: and… BB: And you’re talking to him on what? NB: Discord BB: Okay NB: It’s a online messaging app BB: Gotcha, okay. NB: And uhh…he never used voice call and… they don’t have video chat but he said only talk about this on this…uhh, well ..He actually brought up all the details about it. I’m happy I just remembered it, it was on the app called telegram which allows like… inter-continent text message for free I think it is BB: Mhm NB: And...he was telling us ….do this, do this, and this….and …..try to do it at night, park a certain mileage away…and BB: When did he tell you all this? When did he communicate this to you? NB: That was… I think…you said that it – it all – co—occurred on the 27th is what you said, right? BB: That’s when, yeah, that’s the, evening of the 27th was when this was done. NB: Yeah BB: This is what you purchased, this stuff July 27th. NB: Then it was like, the 25th or 26th that it was all talked about BB: Okay and he NB: Like within a couple of days BB: (OV) Sent that all to you via Discord 24 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 34 of 108 PageID #: 404 NB: Yeah BB: And what ..I gu-guess what did he NB: It was Discord and Telegram BB: Okay, on your phone or? NB: Yea, on-on our phone BB: On your app? NB: On, not on my phone. BB: On whose phone? NB: My wife’s phone BB: Kiyomi? NB: Yeah BB: How do you – how do you—how do you get connected with (UI)– tell me – tell me his name again NB: Uhhh…(chuckles) his username was Asbestos Peter we don’t his real name BB: You don’t NB: No BB: How did you get connected with him NB: Uhh it was through a forum called traditionalists in nationalism... BB: Uh huh NB: where it was people like me where it was more of a …societal thing and you could talk about things peacefully and not have to be...you know, angry about it or hiding it…and you could…. It was…really civil, they had a policy of never use racial slurs and really the only time they were acceptable was like in a meme…cause they’re everywhere is memes...but… BB: Mhm 25 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 35 of 108 PageID #: 405 NB: Whenever the...uhh...library for something called the fascist archives which was…uh, it was fascist archives then it went to white power archives and then once it had that name people were just like well that’s kinda sketchy so they shut it down BB: Mhm NB: And then they had a talking forum…on, I think it was ….it –it was…a specific social issue I think it was like talking about the collapse of capitalism just as like the giant student loan bubble that’s gonna be popping at some point… BB: Mhm NB: and it’...it’s gargantuan, so… we were all talking about that and then Peter was getting in contact with my wife and then …. BB: So she’s on the forum too? NB: She’s on the forum because I was trying to get her to learn about my perspective on life BB: Uh huh NB: But.. BB: So what did he – I guess, what did he or she or whoever it is tell you to do? NB: He said... oh well just…I’m gonna look at a map of Indiana and find all the mosques and synagogues that are on there and see which ones are the biggest and which ones aren’t. Are made of like ethnic Jews rather than religious Jews and then…you need to get this, this, and this and then hide your face and go. BB: What did he, when you say this, this, and this, what did he tell you to get? NB: Uh spray paint, aluminum foil, uh pack of Gatorade so we could stay hydrated and then make Drano bombs and then he told us how to make napalm. BB: Really? Okay…So he - what were you supposed to do with that? NB: He said get as close to the synagogue as possible BB: Uh huh NB: And we got as close to the synagogue as possible BB: Okay NB: Cause, cause the dumpster was close enough 26 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 36 of 108 PageID #: 406 BB: Gotcha NB: for us BB: Okay, alright and... umm, did he.. did you plan to go in? NB: Noooo BB: (OV) to the synagogue? NB: I did not want to go in, I, I didn’t want to go in at all BB: Why not? NB: because…that’s breaking and entering is a completely different thing.. that’s uhh…destroying the actual internal structure rather than just having something they could wash up and then.. BB: Mhm NB: Dig away…you can turn over the soil and plant new grass and that burn scars not there and you can pressure wash the walls BB: Okay NB: It’s easier to recover from BB: Wh—Why did you try to get in then? Did you try to get inside? NB: Noooo BB: You didn’t try to get inside? NB: Noooo BB: You sure? NB: not that I know of, not that I can remember BB: Nolan we’re, we’re being, we’re being… you gotta lay everything out here, alright. NB: I don’t think I was trying to get in, we just walking, we walked and we were tryna… BB: (OV) no don’t, no – he- here’s- here’s the, here’s the issue Nolan, you’re, you’re tying to figure what I know 27 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 37 of 108 PageID #: 407 NB: No we’re trying to see if there were cameras and then we decided it, it’s too sketchy cause we...we did want to get like onto the wall BB: Uh huh NB: We didn’t want to get inside, we wanted to get like on the back wall BB: Yup NB: but we were too sketched out by the fact that we thought there were cameras so we went and got the dumpster instead and said… BB: (OV) Okay so you wanted – you wanted to get the, like the south wall, the… of the… NB: (OV) yea we, we wanted to… BB: (OV) the synagogue itself NB: one of the bigger walls. Not inside. BB: Umm… what uh. I guess. What was-what was the purpose of doing this…that’s, that’s the big question here…wh—why do this? NB: Peter said if we got ..if there were news headlines about it he would… BB: (OV) Oh NB: it he said it would be able to spark more radicalism and then get it to be bit more known of a social issue and…. BB: Why do you wanna spark rad—radicalism? NB: Not … Not radicalism, just like knowledge of the- what the movement was. BB: And what’s the movement? NB: The movement is like National Socialism in general but... BB: Do you, do you know what National Socialism is? I mean it’s synonymous with Nazism right? NB: Well.. that - that’s, a term for it. BB: Uh-huh 28 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 38 of 108 PageID #: 408 NB: Yea BB: Okay…I mean uh…it’s pret— it’s a pretty radical message right? Especially when you’re ...uhh…if, if you’re a uhh, umm a Jewish person who goes to uhh Shaarey Tefilla right? NB: Mhm BB: Sends them a pretty clear message right? What message you think it sends them? NB: Get out, or we don’t like you BB: Mhm NB: Yea BB: Is that what – is that the message you and your ..uhm.. you and Kiyomi wanted to send? NB: I guess not, no this, more of the message that Peter is wanting to send, but.. BB: Okay EK: Did Peter provide you any resources to help pay for this stuff, anything like that? Or did he talk about that, like giving you some sort of assistance or is just helping you with picking the locations and things like that? NB: He – he said, he said jokingly that if we get put in prison, uh, I’ll go ahead and give you like five grand after I bail you out or something like that...but then it’s – it’s… that was obviously a joke. And the only really big assistance was, hey this is the stuff you need to buy, this is how you make it… BB: Mhm NB: and then you just take this to this place BB: And he told ya, he’s the one who picked out this uhh Jewish synagogue? NB: Yea BB: In Carmel cause obviously it’s not close to you, uhh… NB: He, he said it being further away was better BB: Okay EK: Do you know where Peter was at? Did he ever say where he lived or is from? 29 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 39 of 108 PageID #: 409 NB: Uhh, at the time he said he was vacationing in Kiev EK: Ok so he was in Russia NB: Cause he lives in, he lives in Romania, he’s from Romania EK: Ok…but he, he could be Russian? NB: Possibly EK: Okay NB: Kiev’s really close, so I could see it EK: Sure BB: Hey Nolan, help—help us understand this day. What uhh so this is about as you can see about 2:28 in the afternoon that you purchase everything, you and Kiyomi uhh that’s Kiyomi right. NB: Yeah that’s my wife. BB: Okay. Umm… uhh so you, he tells you this on July 25th or so? NB: Yeah, 25th, 26th BB: Okay and then you, what do you do on the 27th? NB: We… went out bought some food, hung out for a bit of the day and when BB: Where’d you buy the food? NB: I’m pretty sure it was Noodles & Company or I might be getting that confused with a different date BB: Okay NB: Cause… no okay, we went out earlier in the evening and hung out at a friend’s house BB: Huh, which friend? NB: Uhh, his name’s Alex Hitchcock. BB: Okay 30 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 40 of 108 PageID #: 410 NB: And we went and just sat around at his place and then we gave him, which we, we used to play with uhh napalm, cause he used to know how to make napalm, so we just like light a little bit of it in his yard and we’d like burn coconuts and stuff, just you know BB: Mhm NB: Childish BB: Okay NB: And then we went and bought that stuff, came back and had uhh… she was packing it while we were in the car and then had it left in my trunk and then we made the napalm there and it was in like a kettle which we have a designated kettle at his house for just like having napalm and then we’ll use a little bit of napalm to start a fire. BB: Okay. And then who, who’s it, what’s this guy’s name again? NB: Alex Hitchock. BB: Alec.. Alex NB: Alex, I think it’s Alexander Hitchcock BB: And, and where does he live? NB: Uhh, oh it’s… I think its Fawn Lane here in Eminence, not here in Eminence BB: (OV) Fawn Lane? NB: Yeah, F-A-U-N like a baby deer or BB: W-N? NB: Yeah BB: Fawn. Yeah NB: Well, yeah it’s one of the two, W or a U BB: (OV) Gotcha. Okay. So it’s, so Alex’s house is… you went over there NB: Yeah BB: And made the napalm? NB: Yeah 31 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 41 of 108 PageID #: 411 BB: mixture…umm, then where’d you go from there? NB: We went straight from there onto I-70 up to 465 and shot up to Carmel. BB: Okay, you drove up there? NB: Yeah BB: In the, the NB: The Impala. BB: Impala… okay. NB: My rust bucket. BB: Tell, tell me what you did when you got there. NB: We parked at, there was this Mormon church like a, I think it’s like a mile or so down the road and then we walked around this residential area like up to the corner and over and then we came across the road, like in, ee—kind of in the front yard of the place and then walked around seeing if there were cameras BB: So this is, uhh NB: Yeah this is the place, this is the road and then down BB: (OV) That’s 116th, so this is, this is East, you went, went this way. So that’s North NB: yeah, the Jewish congregation, the Mormon Church is like right down here I think and then we just walked BB: (OV) Okay to the South uhh west NB: up and then I think we BB: You walked up Shelbourne? NB: Yeah we walked up this way BB: Okay NB: And then we get, we were getting sprinkled on around here so we walked through…. There was like Hedge’s or something here 32 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 42 of 108 PageID #: 412 BB: Okay NB: that we walked through BB: This one? NB: Then we hopped through here, no it wasn’t here, it was over here and then up I think BB: Okay NB: But BB: So you came up from the South, okay. NB: We did get to the point where somewhere, we got over here so we had to come across here and then we were like dangling behind the shed for a little while to get a breather BB: Uh huh NB: and we walked around this, there’s like a playground right there so we were looking at it and seeing if there were cameras back here cause we were gonna get this wall but then we said no screw it BB: Oh so you, you were gonna do the West Wall. NB: Yeah we were going to do this (OV) BB: (OV) Yeah, okay. Alright. NB: And then there was like… we don’t know why there was lights or like hanging camera globe things that we got sketched out and just did the dumpster. BB: Okay, alright. So you saw the lights and that made you nervous? NB: Yeah. BB: Okay… tell me what you did NB: Right here? BB: No just tell me, tell me what uhh what you did from there NB: Oh from, okay so we go to the wall BB: How’d you, how’d you get everything up there? 33 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 43 of 108 PageID #: 413 NB: Oh it’s BB: Did you carry a backpack? NB: Yeah there’s the backpack and stuff and then BB: In your car? NB: there was a, yeah there was the brown military backpack that they found BB: Okay NB: It should BB: It’s in the car? NB: Yeah BB: Okay NB: And then BB: (OV) Alright NB: there’s the uhh kettle which we just had it electrical taped shut BB: Okay NB: So nothing would leak out. And then BB: That had the homemade napalm in it? Okay… uhhh NB: And then, that was just BB: So you got the backpack with the spray paint NB: Yeah BB: The umm, aluminum foil NB: And then I had like a grocery bag in which I think that might be in my trunk, the trunk of my car too, cause there was like spare Gatorade bottles that we couldn’t quite fit BB: Gotcha, okay. Uhh so you carried that—all that stuff up there—umm, you carried this whole big kettle too? 34 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 44 of 108 PageID #: 414 NB: No it’s not a kettle it’s BB: Yeah NB: It was just like a little (UI) BB: Oh… okay.. alright NB: and it was electrical taped shut BB: And then tell, tell me what you do when you get up there. NB: We said alright so where do we start? And she turns her back to me BB: Mhm NB: Said get in the back, I opened it up, pulled a couple of bottles out of the way…grabbed one red, one black…handed her the red and then started painting the swastika, she went up and around and did the perimeter of the flag and then did the circle BB: Mhm NB: around the swastika and then I grabbed the other red out of her backpack and we started filling in the flag…and then… we took iron crosses on the side of that one and then we said no there’s another wall… did one there. BB: Okay. NB: Same procedure BB: (OV) So you both, you both, are you both artistic… I mean it’s, it’s—it’s, it’s ob—it’s obviously took some effort uhh to do that… umm NB: I mean, I doodle in my free time BB: Okay NB: So BB: but you both painted it, you both did the spray painting? NB: Yeah she, she’s really good at realistic drawing, I’m more of a uhh, cartoony character kind of thing BB: Okay 35 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 45 of 108 PageID #: 415 NB: Which… yeah BB: Gotcha…. umm NB: The lines aren’t to.. just regular lines aren’t too much different BB: Gotcha… and uhh so you, so you spray paint and then what do you do? NB: We… laid the napalm down and tried to spread it around so it would get like here and here but it BB: Mhm NB: just plopped…and then whenever I put the pan back some plopped there and then BB: Okay NB: There was a little like, one of those candle lighters… the click button ones and then she just… boof, boof—and then it was a little bit bigger and then got some here BB: So she just lit it mmm—and then uhh what’s, what’s the plastic then? NB: That plastic? BB: Yeah NB: I think that’s like saran wrap for a Gatorade bottle cause one of the labels was falling off so I just chucked it on the fire possibly... that might be it BB: Did, did you used Drano? The Drano uhh bombs at all? NB: No it’s the gel stuff so it doesn’t work BB: Oh okay NB: It had to be the purple liquid BB: (OV) Yeah, yeah NB: That actually interacts with the aluminum so BB: (OV) the liquid then… yeah…. Okay. So did you even try to use it or? NB: No, we uhh… we got too nervous cause like the napalm was creating a lot of light we’re like alright we’re gonna get out of here we got back to Alex’s house and we’re just like I… 36 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 46 of 108 PageID #: 416 I wonder if the Drano things gonna actually work anyways. So we poured the gel in there and then BB: Oh okay NB: It just enveloped the aluminum and just sat there BB: So what was the popping noise that… uhh some of the neighbors heard out there? NB: The popping? BB: Uh huh NB: Ummm…..I mean napalm burns very hot BB: Yeah… okay NB: So BB: I mean it was a pretty good fire right… and it was pretty uhh intense fire NB: I mean yeah is na, napalm does BB: Yeah, so I’ve seen the video so, okay… I guess what, what was the point…of, of the napalm… using the napalm? NB: Just to… I guess put an effect below the sign… Peter probably was wanting us to do some internal damage BB: Yeah NB: With it BB: Yeah that’s… NB: But we didn’t have the balls to do that so BB: Okay NB: We just used it as an effect under the flag EK: Did Alex, when you were making it at his house did he know where you were going with the, the, the napalm that you guys were making? NB: I’m pretty sure I didn’t tell him but he might know. 37 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 47 of 108 PageID #: 417 EK: He didn’t ask why you were taking it out in a taped up with your wife? He, he wasn’t interested in that? NB: He’s, he’s used to us making napalm cause EK: Okay NB: we use it to start fires for barbecues over there all the time, we hang out every Sunday and just cook what he needs and play Mario Cart and stuff EK: Did he know about Peter or your plans to go up there? NB: I told him we were talking to someone online, I didn’t say Peter directly or anything like that. EK: Okay so he had no idea of your plans to go to the synagogue NB: He… he might know cause he’s a pretty smart guy… so he might have seen like headlines and stuff and realized where we went EK: M’kay NB: but… I don’t EK: before you left he didn’t know that you guys were headed there to NB: He shouldn’t of EK: Okay BB: So ultimately what’s—what’s the, what’s the purpose of - of doing this? NB: Just to have symbolism, make a headline BB: Okay…. and he chose the Synagogue? NB: Yeah BB: Okay and what - I guess what did he tell you – what was the purpose of doing it at the Synagogue? NB: He said because it’s full of the ethnic Jews, which is… the main thing. The religious Jew part wasn’t the… being a religious Jew wa—Jew wasn’t the deal for Hitler it was the ethnic Jews. Because there was like two percent of the population represented… BB: (OV) So race versus religion? 38 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 48 of 108 PageID #: 418 NB: Yeah, yeah…yeah it was two percent of the population representing fifty percent of the vote that’s the problem we had with it BB: Okay, so I guess, what’s the... then what’s the issue with, with Jews the race NB: Oh, because historically...if you look into the makeup of political officials...you will find that roughly two percent of the population which is around the minority population of Jews BB: Mhhm NB: If you look at political official, officials… like 50 percent of them or more have been Jewish… race for years upon years BB: Mhm NB: And they’re only a small percent of the vote …they’re, they’re only small percent of the population so… it’s basically saying you’re over represented BB: Okay… in, in the realm of political leadership NB: (OV) in, in, in, in the realm of political leadership and democracy… BB: Okay…so I, I guess what’s the purpose of...what, what ultimately is the purpose, what’s the message that’s, that’s being sent umm, by Peter uhh through you to…through you and uhh, umm Kiyomi in doing this? NB: I guess it’s just …. back down or something like that BB: Okay NB: You know...it’s just like… BB: Get out? NB: Kinda?! Maybe? EK: And you had only talked to Peter the 25th and 26th? And he was able to convince you, in on Telegram through limited conversations for two days to go do this? NB: It, it wasn’t limited conversations, it was like six hours at a time EK: So you had talked to him on Telegram for six hours at a time? NB: It wasn’t me, it was my wife. 39 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 49 of 108 PageID #: 419 EK: Okay so…. It was on your wife’s phone? She, she had the Telegram app on her phone NB: Yeah EK: And did she meet Peter or did you meet Peter? NB: We never met Peter EK: Online, like through the app NB: It was, it was her meeting Peter and then we both talked to him EK: Okay NB: through her phone EK: And it was all through the typing NB: (OV) Text EK: texting… so, but it was all happening on the 25th and 26th NB: Yeah EK: and so… Kiyomi’s on there and she meets Peter in one of these discussion groups and starts talking to him… so over a period of long conversations on the 25th and 26th this plan came into effect and you guys decided to go carry it out and did so…. NB: and well… it was also… I hadn’t been able to have that good of an effect on her because typically it’s more of a separatist view, that I try and hold where it’s just like… rather than… it, it, it’s like don’t interbreed, that’s more of the thing, don’t EK: That you believe? NB: Yeah EK: Yeah NB: and it’s, it’s more of a passivist view of just like don’t, don’t kill for it… just be abstin—be abstinent for it EK: Be separate NB: Yeah EK: And Kiyomi doesn’t, she had a more… 40 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 50 of 108 PageID #: 420 NB: Uhh… it was, it was like nature vs. nurture depending on how you treat the child they’ll develop no—notions a certain way, she was still young enough to where it was like childish views EK: Mhm NB: and then I guess Peter kind of fed off that and then I was pulled into it because it’s my wife so EK: So she wanted your help in doing it NB: Well, I, I kind of, I kind of naively found it like a date night, is, is very crazy date night but… EK: Okay NB: I… I did go in by my own volition. EK: Were you communicating with Peter primarily or was your wife communicating with him? NB: My wife, it was all, it was all on her phone. EK: But did, were you sitting right by her side reading it as it was happening? Did you know that, NB: (OV) it was EK: the extent of the conversation? NB: It was every couple hours I’d check in… EK: So NB: (OV) So I knew the co—I knew the conversation was going on for a while EK: So when it was decided to, to uhh where you guys were going to conduct this… did she tell you or were you there sitting with her when it was decided that this was the congregation you guys were gonna NB: I was sitting with her EK: Okay BB: Do you know how he chose, this uhh synagogue 41 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 51 of 108 PageID #: 421 NB: He, he… Google Maps and he has like a filter of how to find places BB: Uh huh EK: How did you trust you knew who this guy was, I mean you met him the same day essentially…and he’s NB: Cause everyone else I’ve met on the server is an extremely respectful person and extremely nice. EK: How many, have you ever met any of them in person? NB: Not in person, no. EK: Have you ever been like gone to meetings with like-minded folks like could be in… you know similar, like you have the National Socialism, you have different groups that you participated, any of those groups locally? NB: Uhh, my wife and I recently had a dinner with a bunch, with a lovely couple from a group called Identity Europa and we had a nice little dinner down at the Indy Diner…and we just sat there and BB: Identity Eu-Europa? NB: Yeah, in—instead of like a u, it’s a v, it’s weird. EK: What were their names? NB: Uhh Sarah and… Douglas EK: And how did you meet them? NB: Through Identity Evropa, her names Volkmom on Discord and BB: Volkmom? NB: They’re extremely nice BB: Like V-O-L-K-M-O-M? NB: Yeah, yeah EK: And were the aware of what you were doing here that you were talking to Peter? NB: No, they, they had no idea 42 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 52 of 108 PageID #: 422 EK: And was that before or after this? NB: That was like this past Saturday EK: Okay, okay. BB: Where and where’d you meet them? NB: Uhh Indy Diner in Martinsville. BB: Okay. NB: It’s a real nice family restaurant. BB: What time was that? NB: It was 6:45 on Saturday, like this past Saturday. BB: Okay. EK: But other than the Identity Evropa you met on Discord? Any other groups any other like act—like you’ve read in the paper about like these big protests like in places like Charlottesville, did you go to any of those type of events, or do anything like that?.... okay. NB: Because of us subscribing to Identity Evropa… Identity Evropa said you can’t, we’re not allowing any of our members to go to the Unite the Right 2 so instead we went and with a bunch of Identity Evropa members to dinner. EK: To dinner? NB: Yeah, EK: what’s—so there were other I—IE NB: Yep EK: guys at the dinner NB: One more his name was Steve, he was the guy that’s just like hey you guys are new, you two are new how about we all get a dinner date together. BB: What does this group, what’s the belief system? 43 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 53 of 108 PageID #: 423 NB: It’s just be proud that you’re European, it’s, it’s an identitarian movement, it’s nothing political BB: Okay NB: It’s just like you’re European, be proud of who you are, take care of your family. BB: Okay, I mean that sounds positive does it—what’s NB: Yeah, yeah, that, that’s BB: But is there, is there any, but do they have any uhh animus against any o—any other groups? NB: Uhh. there, there’s always a couple poisoned skittles to ruin the bowl but BB: Yeah NB: my wife and I are trying to stick away from those now, since the whole conscious is like setting in on that… cause it was a couple of days after that happened, that her and I both kind of like sat down and we’re just like we, cause like as the news lines, news headlines started rolling…we sat down and we kind of realized wow, we did that BB: Yeah…. And you realized what message you sent right? NB: Yeah BB: I mean, and that’s a pretty intimidating, threatening message… right? You agree with that? NB: Yeah. BB: Uhh, I mean…just be… just you know, just for a group of people that… because of their race… NB: Should’ve been sticking with the separatists BB: Yeah NB: Yeah BB: Umm, where’d, where’d you tell your parents you were going? NB: We BB: that night? 44 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 54 of 108 PageID #: 424 NB: told my parents that we were gonna go watch a movie with Alex BB: Oh okay NB: Yeah, we told her that we were going to go watch the new Mission Impossible Fallout BB: Oh okay, alright… did you go see that at all? No NB: I want to so bad but no I didn’t BB: That would’ve been a much, I think that would’ve been a much better uh choice NB: Yeah, that, that would’ve been a much better venture BB: Yeah NB: and BB: Did you tell them you were going somewhere else before that? NB: Hmm BB: Did you tell them you were going somewhere else before that? NB: The movie theatre, before that? BB: Or before the, the movie? NB: No… we just said we’re gonna hang out at Alex’s for a while and then we went and bought the stuff, went over to Alex’s and then we called and let them know hey, we’re going to the midnight showing of BB: (OV) Okay NB: Mission Impossible Fallout cause BB: (OV) So you NB: it was like coming out that same day BB: You bought the stuff at Walmart that day? NB: Yeah BB: Uhh, and then went to Alex’s 45 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 55 of 108 PageID #: 425 NB: Yeah BB: Did you go anywhere in between there? NB: I think it was like IGA there in Monrovia that we bought the gas at and then we got like Styrofoam cups from Dollar General in Monrovia as well… cause they’re like right next to each other. BB: Why the Styrofoam cups? NB: Cause you dissolve Styrofoam in the gas to make the homemade napalm. BB: But didn’t you buy uhh, two hundred NB: Yeah it was a… BB: Uhh, Styrofoam plates NB: Oh no, no BB: (OV) Walmart NB: Yeah, we p—we buy Styrofoam plates from Dollar General and IGA because it’s closer to Alex’s house, that’s, that’s for the stuff we use to make the barbecue. BB: Oh okay NB: Yeah BB: So the, the two hundred plates you bought at Walmart NB: (OV) At Walmart BB: were put to use up at the synagogue. NB: (OV) were… to get… yeah.. to get gas and then we hit the synagogues, yeah BB: Okay, alright. Umm, NB: And, the gas was actually in Me—uhh Mooresville cause like we were at the Camby one. The Camby Walmart. BB: Yeah NB: and then we went down through 46 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 56 of 108 PageID #: 426 BB: No you were at uhh, umm Greencastle Walmart NB: Gre-gree-Greencastle Walmart but then whenever we went to Camby BB: Mhm NB: we went… I, I think we went… I, I don’t know if we… I think we got something at the Camby Walmart. BB: At the Camby Walmart? NB: Yeah BB: The same day? NB: Yeah cause I remember we also were stopping in Mooresville at the… Circle K’s Shell gas station BB: Mhm NB: and then we filled up the gas can there to get the gas for the Styrofoam plates BB: (OV) Okay, okay. Did umm, have, have you ever done anything like this before? NB: No. BB: Never? NB: First movement BB: First time you’ve ever done this. Uhh…. EK: What about Kiyomi is she, she been involved in this type of stuff before? NB: It, it was mainly just like there uhh—there was supposedly this shooting that happened at a mosque a while back BB: Mhm NB: Down towards Columbus… her and her stupid friend Renzo were like… they saw lights up the hill and they just looked like straight lights, so they’re just like sitting there with a BB gun seeing if they could hear a tink off the light pole but then it like knocked out one of the lights and apparently it actually went through the church window—window. BB: When, when was this? 47 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 57 of 108 PageID #: 427 NB: This was, I think like 2016…. It was a while back. BB: Okay NB: Down in Columbus, down towards Columbus BB: Where, would, when and what, which uhh… was it a synagogue or the? NB: It was a mosque BB: Mosque.. okay NB: And they—they didn’t know it was a mosque, they thought it was street lights, they were trying to shoot the light pole cause they saw the light and they thought it was a street lamp BB: (OV) Oh okay NB: So they’re just like ting, ting BB: And who was it? It was her and who? NB: Her and some guy named Renzo, it’s.. BB: Arenzo? NB: Huh? BB: Arenzo or? NB: Renzo… R-E-N-Z-O. BB: Where and where does she know him from? NB: In—back when she was living down in Columbus, it was like months before we got married BB: Okay NB: It was still a long distance relationship BB: So they were over by the mosque uhh…tryna shoot, shoot umm, umm NB: Trying to 48 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 58 of 108 PageID #: 428 BB: Street lights out and accidentally hit the mosque NB: They were trying to hit a street pole… street light pole BB: Ahh and accidentally hit the mosque NB: And then BB: and broke a window at the mosque NB: Well the street light was the mosque BB: (OV) Oh okay NB: because they, they couldn’t see the full design cause they were like in the woods BB: okay NB: So EK: This was 2016? NB: Yeah I think so EK: Okay, so it was a couple of years ago NB: Yeah it was, it was a good while back EK: And it was a mosque in Columbus or Bloomington? NB: Ir—it was around Columbus, I think it might’ve been between Columbus and Bloomington EK: Okay NB: Cause… in that Southern Indiana area EK: Okay. Now was she running with any groups back at that, that point? Kind of like IE, anything like that? NB: Uhh… not at that point but like after a couple of months… something came up where it was called, I think you guys, you, you’ve heard of the Traditionalists Workers Party? TWP? BB: Mhm 49 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 59 of 108 PageID #: 429 NB: Uhh, she was with them for like a couple of months before it dissolved cause they, they had pretty decent views but then there was like the whole Heimbach scandal and then… they disintegrated and she’s like well that—that went wonderful, so then she was trying to—cause she got used to being able to talk with people and then it was just gone, so then she wanted to try and find people again so she was getting on Discord for it BB: Mmm. NB: And then, fast forward this whole debacle BB: Yeah…. So, have you ever uhh, you ever given any speeches on uhh national socialism? NB: Uhh, no… Not that I can think of. BB: You ever written any? NB: I’ve, I’ve tried to, I’m just not good at speaking BB: Tried to give speeches or? NB: I’ve, I’ve tried to write a speech BB: Okay NB: And I was trying to get uhh, I was, I was gonna call it National Corporatism and try and make it my own thing, where it was more of a separatist view of things but then I just couldn’t get the flow right and I gave up BB: What were you writing this for? NB: Just… personal… see if I BB: Where would you, I guess where would you give the speech? NB: I started out with close friends and then see if I could go somewhere bigger and talk with people about it BB: Okay. And do you, do you, have you done this stuff in Greencastle at all? Any speaking up there? NB: Not that I can think of BB: Never done any speaking up there or… talk to any groups (IA)? NB: I mean they have a big auditorium so if I got popular enough eventually 50 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 60 of 108 PageID #: 430 BB: Oh okay… but you’ve never been recognized for any of your speaking NB: I’m, I’m not that good BB: Okay NB: I had trouble passing Communications class back at Ivy Tech, I’m not that good BB: Okay, alright. Umm…. Uhh EK: Are you guys paying dues to IE like to join or just have the dinner to learn about it? NB: Oh we had the dinner because they were new members just like us and we had a… we had to go get a money order because our bank accounts wouldn’t link to EK: Okay NB: like through Zell to be able to forward the money, so we go him one hundred dollar money order and chucked it to him. EK: Okay, did you, who did you give the money order to? NB: Uhh, I think his name was Anthony something EK: Okay NB: He’s one of the financial guys for it EK: Okay and he was at the dinner as well? NB: No EK: Okay NB: Uhh the people that were at the dinner were Sarah, Douglas and Steven or Steve and I don’t know their last names EK: So when did you give the money order, the hundred dollar uhh, money order to Anthony NB: It was… a day or two, we shipped it via mail, it was like a day or two after the meeting this Saturday, so it was like yesterday or no it was… it was on the way to the dinner, so Saturday at like 6:30 ish we popped it in the mail..and EK: So you guys are now members with IE? NB: Yeah 51 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 61 of 108 PageID #: 431 EK: Okay. And she’s a member as well? NB: Yeah EK: Okay. NB: We took the money order and popped it in the mailbox (IA) BB: What does that, what does that get you? NB: It’s a yearly, year subscription. It just helps fund the fact that, it helps fund IE so they can like buy banners, rent an AirBnB or just help finance the project EK: Did they give you a way to communicate securely with them, like peer-to-peer communication or anything NB: It, it’s a…. it’s a completely different Discord so you can have different servers, they have like the Traditionalist—Traditionlent… eh da da—the Nationalism server, I’ll just leave it at that, the one where this whole debacle came from and then down one it’s called like… people watching birds or whatever, but whenever you get into the group it actually says Identity Europa, and then they have multiple different sub servers where it’s just like here’s one for just women… so they can talk about like cooking and wifely duties and… EK: Okay BB: What do—how do, how do you talk on this, I mean is it all on your phone or NB: How do I talk on it? BB: Yeah NB: I don’t talk on it, I work too much BB: Okay. How does Kiyomi talk on it? NB: It’s on her phone BB: (OV) On her phone NB: and then she has Discord downloaded onto her computer as well. BB: Where’s her computer? NB: It’s a Lenovo that she has at home, she uses it for school 52 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 62 of 108 PageID #: 432 BB: Oh, on a laptop NB: Yeah BB: Where does she go to school? NB: Ivy Tech, same place I did BB: Okay NB: She’s doing the same thing I did, where she’s getting into the ASAP program and trying to get her Associate’s in one year rather than two. BB: And whats the ASAP? NB: You take double classes BB: Oh, okay NB: You take double the credit hours BB: Yeah, yeah.. Okay NB: and a 29 credit hour semester is just so much fun BB: Yeah, gotcha EK: Okay, so you, you guys are, are there and you’re communicating with them… Did you tell anyone about this on Discord that hey this is us, we did this… does anyone in IE, are they aware of what you’ve done? I mean, it’s a pretty big deal NB: Yeah it, we did, we didn’t. EK: So you didn’t tell them? NB: No EK: Okay BB: Yeah and Mike Pence, the Vice President’s tweeting about it, right? EK: That’s a big deal NB: Yeah BB: Yeah 53 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 63 of 108 PageID #: 433 EK: Okay BB: Is it, has the President tweeted about it, do you know? NB: That… no BB: Okay NB: I, I don’t keep up on social media that much BB: Okay NB: My wife was the one checking out the headlines and it was on a news story that Mike Twin—Mike Pence tweeted about it BB: Okay. NB: She was like spamming my phone at work one day and I’m like oh, wow that’s, that’s big, that, that okay that’s gotten really big, that’s the Vice President BB: Mhm EK: How’s Kiyomi feel about that, is she nervous about it, is she NB: I think because it’s how… like how she was getting to lean. I think she got kind of excited about it, but EK: Okay NB: I’m hoping she kind of picked up oh—on the fact that I was….kind of ick towards it EK: Right NB: I, I don’t know how to describe that feeling other than just ick EK: Okay, okay… But she was excited about it? NB: I guess you could say EK: Okay NB: Excited… just not, not like overly enthusiastic she’s just like we were tweeted about by the Vice President, that’s pretty cool. EK: Okay, okay. 54 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 64 of 108 PageID #: 434 BB: So are—are you or Kiyomi, you’re both affiliated with IE now right? Is it, would you describe them as a white nationalist group or? NB: Not white nationalist BB: Mhm NB: Just identitarian, it’s BB: What’s the difference? NB: Uhh, white nationalist is typically deemed more of a…we’re better than everybody sort of thing and BB: Mmm NB: Identitarian is just like, it, it’s the same root word identitarian… identity BB: Mhm NB: It’s just how you are, it’s just we’re European, be proud of it just don’t be an ass BB: Okay NB: Which is… the school of thought, that I try and subscribe to more than anything else, because its more socially acceptable and you don’t have people trying to punch you in the face over it BB: Alright would, I mean would, would you consider this (SA Bookwalter displays picture from crime scene)… uhh NB: That’s not, no BB: acceptable? NB: That’s not… EK: would IE consider that acceptable? NB: No EK: What, what do you think they would if you told them you’ve done that? NB: That would’ve been like, hey you no longer have a membership, good-bye 55 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 65 of 108 PageID #: 435 EK: Okay NB: Yeah BB: Okay NB: They do banner drops of just…they do banner drops but vandalism is not okay EK: Okay. BB: Any other plans to… to uhh do this to any other synagogues umm NB: Not that we had thought of BB: Well any other, any, any communication after this with uhh, what’s his name Peter NB: I think he said try and hit up a mosque sometime soon too, but my wife and I have been focused more on trying to get me into the Iron Union and get funds for moving out of my parent’s house and then paying off her car and then actually focusing on life thing rather than political things. BB: And tell me Peter’s name again NB: Asbestos Peter BB: Asbestos NB: Yeah EK: Did he give you any other way to contact him, any other… NB: Other than Discord and Telegram, no. EK: When you see his name there, that’s the only way you have to reach out to him NB: Yeah and his Discord recently got banned EK: Okay NB: Cause he was trying to talk to Kiyomi, but EK: So he’s banned on Discord NB: Yeah EK: Okay 56 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 66 of 108 PageID #: 436 BB: So… he… what did he say when, uhh what did he say when he found out about (IA) NB: Whenever he saw the headlines BB: Yeah NB: He said wow guys good job that’s a big deal BB: Mhm NB: He’s just like, uhh I think the first thing he, he sent my wife was the Vice President tweeted about you guys, and you’re on like 30 news networks, that’s huge. BB: Mhm… soo he liked it NB: Yeah, he was, he was enthusiastic about it BB: Did he say anything more about it? NB: Other than try and hit up a, trying to hit up a mosque soon, I don’t think there was any other like advice or reaction to it BB: Did he tell you, specifically what mosque or? NB: He just said BB: (OV) Did he choose one yet? NB: He said just a mosque… he said you’re, you’re guy’s choice just a mosque and then, my wife and I are just like eh maybe…and then left it be so we could focus on trying to… cause I was trying to get my OSHA 10 that night… so EK: When you got back from doing this, did you or Kiyomi get on Discord and tell them you’ve done it before it hit the news, cause it took a bit for it to hit the news, did… you guys communicate with him that hey we did it NB: I think she hopped on her data on the way home EK: Literally on her ph—on the way home from NB: Yeah, I, I think we were about… since we were coming south on 465 on the west of the west side, I think we got to like maybe to Rockville and she said it’s done. EK: And then, what did he reply to that 57 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 67 of 108 PageID #: 437 NB: He was asleep, so. EK: Okay. BB: How long NB: We didn’t get a response until BB: How long did it take you to do this by the way, that night? NB: To do… BB: Yeah when, about what time did you get up there you think? NB: I think it was… one o’clock and then we got back to the car and the clock said like 3:30. BB: Okay, what time did you get home then? NB: We got home at like… 4:20ish in the morning, 4:40ish in the morning. BB: Okay NB: Somewhere around there, and then, I had to BB: That took a while to do it NB: I had church in the morning so her and I went to bed, well we took a shower, went to bed passed out and then got up and went to church BB: Where did you go to chu—where do you go to church? NB: Uhh Corinth Baptist Church BB: Okay NB: It’s a little white church in the vail if you ever heard that—heard that saying BB: What’s that called? EK: Little white church in the vail BB: Oh okay NB: It’s way out in the middle of nowhere where if you, it, it’s a little town called Plano BB: Mhm 58 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 68 of 108 PageID #: 438 NB: I don’t even think it shows up on maps anymore BB: Yeah, I’ve never heard of it. NB: So if you drive through it and you blink, you, you literally miss the town BB: Okay… alright. Uhh so, so you were up there from one til, so about two and two hours and twenty minutes NB: (OV) Yeah we were walking, we were walking really slow BB: Okay NB: Along the road BB: Yeah, I was gonna say that, that take a NB: It was BB: How did you go back to the car NB: We went up this way and BB: No, no, no… eh—back from the.. NB: Oh back to the car (OV) BB: (OV) cause you were dow—you were down here to the southwest NB: We went this way down and along this fence and then BB: Okay NB: there was like a light right here so we had to go between some trees and then we hopped BB: So you went back over to Shelborne and went South… okay NB: Yeah we went Shelborne then went on this side of the road BB: Gotcha… alright EK: So real quick ahh…. Do you have any way yourself to communicate with Peter on your phone? NB: No 59 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 69 of 108 PageID #: 439 EK: Could, could you, could you… like if… you wanted to help us could you communicate him or could only your wife communicate with Peter? NB: Only my wife. Which… EK: So you have no way to get in touch with him? NB: No I don’t have Discord, I don’t have Telegram EK: So if we look on your phone, your… th—those apps aren’t or your computer, we’re not going to find those apps? NB: No EK: So you weren’t on Discord or Telegram NB: I have What’s App but he’s not on What’s App. EK: So all uhh, you’re saying one hundred percent of the communication with Peter NB: Was on my wife’s phone or laptop EK: Now did you ever get on her phone and do the typing and discussing with him NB: I… would open up her phone and say hey there’s a notification from him but… EK: (OV) But as far as NB: I never typed EK: communicating with him, she did a hundred percent of the communication with him? NB: She was always the one texting EK: Did she delete any of that stuff after this hit the news or is it still on her phone? NB: I think it might still be on her phone EK: Okay BB: Is… did you take any photos of this—of the uhh, what you did out there? NB: This uhh should be on my phone, there’s uhh a file BB: (OV) It’s a photo? Where? 60 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 70 of 108 PageID #: 440 NB: There’s a file where it’s just like… one that’s supposed to be like a light on the synagogue to show him where it was and then show it’s like one… one flash picture of… left side and right side flag where it’s like from the corner of the dumpster so BB: Okay… so you took, you took a couple… two photos? NB: It was… three or four I think BB: Okay NB: Cause BB: They’re not on your phone NB: Yeah. They should still be there. BB: Okay NB: It’s uhh, one of the actual synagogue itself which you can’t really see it cause it’s night time BB: Mhm NB: And then I used flash on the wall so you could see the left and right side flags… and then whenever we had set the napalm ablaze as I was running away I took a quick one and kept going BB: Mhm…. Okay. EK: Did you send those photos to anybody? Did you share the photos with anybody… like electronically, did you send them to Peter, did you… NB: (OV) Uhhh… I dont EK: Send them to your wife? NB: I, I, I think my wife might have sent… might have sent one EK: How did she get them from you? NB: It was through a… USB cord. I think we, we transferred it onto her laptop and then transferred it onto her phone from her laptop. EK: So you transferred the photos from your phone to her laptop, to her phone and you think she might have sent one of those photos to Peter. 61 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 71 of 108 PageID #: 441 NB: Yeah… possibly. I think she, I think she may have done it in idle conversation but I, I never saw her send it EK: Cause you just said that the photos were, were you said he… so you were taking the photos for Peter? NB: Yeah EK: Okay, so did Peter ask you to take it? NB: He, he said whenever it, whenever its done try and get a.. couple pictures and show me. EK: Okay. So you, you, you were taking those when you took them, you were taking them for Peter? NB: Mhm. EK: Okay. NB: I was gonna send him the entire album as a media file… of like three pictures, it was EK: How were you going to do that if you couldn’t communicate with him? NB: I was gonna transfer it onto her laptop and let her send it EK: Okay. BB: What, what did Peter tell you the message was he was trying to send here? NB: Uhhh he, he… said it was mainly trying to rile up—rally up people. See if there were any underlying groups that wanted to see if—were waiting to see if anybody was out there in Indiana. Just to see if something could come of it and people would become more active which… yeah BB: Active to do what? To do this kind of thing (OV). NB: Active to like, active to come out and talk. BB: I mean, this uhh that’s pretty radical NB: (OV) Yeah, that, that’s, that’s BB: (OV) message to…. NB: (OV) not exactly talking 62 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 72 of 108 PageID #: 442 BB: get people out and to talk yeah… uhh EK: What was… where… what dog does Peter have in this fight? What was your impression or Kiyomi’s… why is he intrigued… he’s over, you said he was vacationing in Kiev NB: Yeah EK: and he’s Romanian NB: He uhh… it’s because there’s stuff over in Europe called the Nordic Resistance Movement which is… basically a bit more, it, it’s a bit more aggressive version EK: Now that’s up in Sweden and Finland though NB: It, it’s Sweden and Finland and it’s also Northern Germany EK: Okay NB: And then they also have uhh… crap what’s it called, it’s uhh… umm EK: Cause they fire bombed a refugee center over in… like in that area NB: That I did not know about. Wow! EK: Okay. NB: Kay, uhh I, I heard the… or—or, or is that the one about the embassy cause like there was one where they had like firecrackers and they threw it over the fence at an embassy EK: Okay NB: Its…that one I heard about EK: So Peter said he NB: but refugee center? EK: Did, did Peter say he was a member of the NRM? NB: Uhh, I… I think he said either the NRM or he was part of uhh…. There’s another one there in Europe that’s like more of actually European people crap… uhh, it’s, it’s… it’s uhh Identitarian Movement of like younger Europeans and it’s not identitarian, it’s more of the activists group and… EK: And where is that based out of? 63 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 73 of 108 PageID #: 443 NB: It, it’s based out of like central Europe, it’s like Southeastern Germany, Poland, Austria and then… the one that’s just south of Austria. EK: Okay but its not NRM, it’s another? NB: It, it’s, it’s different EK: Okay NB: There, there’s like two or three, two of them… uh… two of them being the NRM and then the one I’m talking about now and then like the third one I don’t know what it’s called either. EK: Okay, so he, he’s a part of one of these groups so he’s… NB: Yeah…. I don’t know if he’s like subscribing to them like a membership because I don’t think they do that sort of thing financially but EK: (OV) Right NB: there… EK: Did he say what his nationality was like… Is he European? Is he Russian? Is he German? NB: I think he’s Russian EK: Okay NB: Or… I, I think he’s somewhere between Russian and Romanian EK: Okay NB: Cause he said he was born in Romania but you know… that…doesn’t mean too much EK: Right NB: Whenever there’s open borders so EK: But did he say where he lived? NB: He said he was living in Romania, I’m pretty sure EK: Okay NB: And then, all I know is that at the time he was in Kiev 64 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 74 of 108 PageID #: 444 EK: Okay NB: And he’s been to Russia, he’s been to America EK: (IA) NB: He’s not a big, he’s not a big fan of Los Angeles apparently. EK: He’s been in the United States NB: Yeah I’m pretty sure EK: Okay NB: I think he said he’s been to… Florida, Los Angeles and I think New York is how he would get here cause like (UI) EK: Did he say why he came to the United States? NB: Cause he, he works a lot and then he’s had money to vacation so he’s wanting to see the world EK: Okay…Okay BB: Do you, do you, you know… you said you don’t have any weapons in your car right? NB: No there shouldn’t be BB: Okay. Any weapons at, at your house? NB: Other than a BB gun no BB: Okay, just, just a BB gun NB: Which I’m pretty sure my mom doesn’t even know how to use that so BB: Gotcha, okay…uumm NB: I mean other than, other than my wife’s knife collection but they’re all like Franklin Mint collectibles so… it, they’re, they’re worth more than trying to hurt someone with BB: Okay. No other uhh weapons, no… uhh… ehh… do you guys, do you guys keep a, umm any sort of uhh Drano bombs or…. Uhh any of that kind of stuff out there or no? Okay. NB: I mean unless you’re scared of laundry cleaner no 65 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 75 of 108 PageID #: 445 BB: Yeah… okay. Umm, are you, do you know anybody that’s umm involved in any white supremacy groups? NB: I used to, but I think he died… his first name was Zack and I think his na—last name was like Nichols or something like that. He lives down in Brown County and BB: What was you fillia—affiliation with him? NB: Uhh, he was a friend of my wife and her and him would really just play Call of Duty together but then whenever her and I got into a relationship, she stopped talking to him and then… I, I met him like a couple of times and then him and I talked for a little bit because of slightly matching ideals and then whenever he found out I was a separatists, he got pretty angry and walked always. BB: What… why? NB: Cause usually separatists and then what we would usually refer to as genocidal imperialist BB: Mhm NB: are…. Very confronting, cause we’re just like No for separatists we’re just like no we need to leave them be, stick to our own kind and then that’ll sort things out itself over time and then if genocidal imperialist are like we need to go, go, go get shit done, get them out of here, we need to do it either by force… by some way of force or scare them off of like…. scare them off through memes BB: Mhm…okay NB: So BB: Well I—I, I guess the way you’re describing it, it sounds like Ki-Kiyomi’s more…leans more toward the… uh NB: Genocidal imperialism? BB: Yeah NB: That, that’s because she was developing those views early and then BB: Mhm NB: Nature vs. nuture took—turk ov—took over and rather than her being around me with the nature of separatism her friends, you know peer pressure 66 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 76 of 108 PageID #: 446 EK: What group was Zack with… when you said he was in that NB: He was just a lonesome EK: So he wasn’t apart of uhh NB: Yeah EK: (UI) NB: He, he was just a lonesome and he’d go to school, do his homework EK: Okay NB: (IA) EK: Okay BB: Who would you say that you’re in contact with right now that’s… member of uh, white, uhh nationalist group NB: White nationalist? I—I’m pretty sure it’s just only Peter, other un—unless you count like… I’m, I’m pretty sure there’s a lot of radical people on Discord but we typically stick away from them cause they’re, they usually don’t communicate very often on the server or you have to personally message them which my wife really doesn’t go out of the way to personally, mes—personally message them. BB: She just talk in like groups or? NB: Yeah it’s the, it—there’s a ne—thing called the Oracle where it’s literally just white women talking about making food or how to make meat and… BB: Mhm NB: Oh this is uhh a… easy way to manage your time to do laundry and get dinner done. It’s just like talk about wifely duties BB: And what that—what’s the name of that forum? NB: The Oracle but…it, it’s also there’s it’s a ste—it stems from what is called Traditionalist Nationalism. BB: But where is that, I guess where do I… where, where I find that online? NB: Discord 67 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 77 of 108 PageID #: 447 BB: Okay NB: Yeah, there—Discord has like thousands of separate servers BB: (OV) Yeah okay… and, and this server would be…how would you access this server? NB: Uhh, you should be able to just go on there and look up Trad Nat, it’ll probably take an invite to get in and then you’d have to tell them hey this is uhh, there, there’s something called vetting where they BB: Mhm NB: make sure you’re actually someone that has ideals rather than just some crazy leftist trying to get in and take, take fascist comments out of context. BB: Mhm NB: So BB: So tradi—Trad Nat like Traditional Nationalism NB: Yeah Trad Nat. BB: Okay NB: and then… or you might just search the terms Traditionalist Nationalism BB: Okay NB: And then you take uhh, of like a vetting quiz you take these labels where it’s all like corporatists, capitalists, uhh religions there’s like Baptism, Buddhism, that’s… just everything. There’s so many tags and there’s atheism… you just take these tags the ones that best describe you, as many as you need, and then throw your tags out there into the server BB: Mhm NB: and then the moderators would come out and say alright we’ll get in, one of our es— experts on say Baptism and get them to ask you a couple questions, they ask you a couple questions, see that your views are actually Baptist BB: Mhm NB: And then they’ll have discussion with you for a little bit and pull back and then they’ll pick another one of your tags on just see, just how your views actually line up and then 68 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 78 of 108 PageID #: 448 whenever they see that you’re good enough and they feel like you’re in the clear, alright cool, come on in…. they’ll let you in. BB: Okay NB: Then you get access to the rest of the servers and then you get to talk with all the people that are already on there and then they send you the links to different servers which usually you have to do vetting for every single server you join. BB: Okay NB: Especially the library servers which have all of the books, all of the books like Terabytes BB: What do you mean all the books? NB: Uhh rather than what typically people read in… school which is like the Manheim version of Mein Kampf, they would have the Ford translation BB: Kay NB: Like by Henry Ford BB: Mhm NB: And then they would have uhh…. Psychological articles, all these news headlines, just everything that’s typically been taking out, taken out of censored media BB: Mhm NB: Which… usually the easiest way to get those is through something called the yandex YA-N-D-E-X Bb: Okay NB: It’s a predominately, it, it has an English setting but it’s predominate—predominately in Russian BB: Uh huh NB: for you to be able to get the.. uhh books you need, you can search and then it’s typically, completely uncensored media… then there’s something called, I think it’s the library genesis which I’ve never been on there, I think my wife has a couple of times she hasn’t found anything BB: Mhm 69 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 79 of 108 PageID #: 449 NB: But supposedly there’s huge amounts of books on Library Genesis that you can find that’s useful BB: Okay….. uhhhh so what else, I guess umm, what else do we need to be concerned with here… uh as far as… going forward umm threats to any groups, any Jewish groups, any uhhh Muslim groups? NB: Ummm… I think there was talk on one of the servers about a group up in like the Pacific Northwest like in Seattle BB: Mhm NB: Where they’re trying to move large chunks of white population in there to… and buy up all the real estate to root out minorities and… I, I guess that’s…. that, that might be a concern but BB: Okay NB: That’s, that’s all really all I could think of BB: Okay, nothing, nothing else that you’ve seen uhh on any of the uhh (UI) NB: (OV) I’m not too active on the… I’m not too active on the server itself I work too much BB: (OV) Sound, sounds like Kiyomi is the one that’s NB: She, she is the one that’s like there trying to learn BB: Yeah NB: I… I had my, my views pretty strongly set just BB: Mhm NB: Be a separatists and read and, right now I’m.. BB: So why do this then… Nolan? NB: It, it was mainly a factor of…. My wife was involved so I felt like I needed to be involved BB: Mhm… hmm NB: A really corrupt version of Romeo and Juliet I guess BB: Yeah… yeah… a really twisted one, yeah 70 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 80 of 108 PageID #: 450 NB: You won’t see that one any play soon BB: Yeah… huh…well eh any uhh… I guess any alibis or any—anything you wanna talk about as far as umm… uhh are you, do you—are you remorseful for this now, do you still think it, it was the right thing to do? NB: (OV) It, it’s, it’s been weighing—it’s been weighing on my conscious BB: Uh huh NB: So I’ve been trying to pick up more and more hours at work and stay away from home which my wife’s not the happiest about that, but it’s just been BB: Was she planning, is, is she with Peter planning to do anything—the, the mosque? NB: I don’t know if they’ve had any communication lately, I think she sa---she said she’s been having trouble talking to him, ever since his Discord got banned and then like Telegram hasn’t been responsive because we don’t have signal out at our house because we live like.. a quarter mile from our nearest neighbor and there’s so much foliage BB: (OV) (UI) yeah it’s the middle of nowhere NB: Yeah BB: Definitely, uhh One and a half lane road there uh huh NB: I’ve never heard the term one and half lane road BB: Oh NB: but that’s extremely accurate BB: Oh yeah, yeah… umm anything else they’re gonna find in your car related to this incident? NB: Maybe… I, I think the gas can’s still in there possibly BB: Okay, alright NB: But I’m pretty sure we left the pot back it’s, it’s back at Alex’s house cause we had a barbecue this Sunday so we used a little bit of residual napalm and just BB: Oh okay so you brought pot, the kettle that you used back to uhh Alex’s NB: (OV) Yeah we, we took the Kettle back to him because it’s, it’s his 71 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 81 of 108 PageID #: 451 BB: And what, and you said he lives where? NB: I think it’s on the Fawn Lane, it’s BB: Fawn Lane NB: I… I don’t know the exact address BB: Alex Hitchcock, in, is he in the town of Eminence? Or is it NB: It’s really, really close. I think it might still be in the Eminence Township BB: Okay. South? North? East? West? NB: Uhh it’s like here’s the intersection in the middle of Eminence, this is 142 BB: Mhm NB: 142 goes this way and then Fawn Lane’s like BB: Say that again NB: Okay so, if you get on 142 BB: Yep, go NB: Heading east BB: (OV) East, okay. NB: and then it’s I think, two or three miles down the road BB: Okay NB: There’s Fawn lane BB: okay… 142 East off of 42 about two miles is Fawn Lane… and, is it, uhh North, Left or? NB: Uhh it’s a, it’s a gravel road that goes North and it’s a dead end BB: Okay, gravel road…. That goes north… where, where is he at on there? NB: Uhh there’s…. I think it’s like the 4th or 5th house on the right….. There’s this giant horse pasture and then there’s like the tiny little one story trailer back working house 72 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 82 of 108 PageID #: 452 BB: Okay NB: On the right. BB: M—mm—it, so it’s, it’s a trailer? NB: It’s, it’s not a trailer, BB: Mhm NB: it’s just like one of the real small BB: Mobile home or? NB: It’s just one of the BB: Small house? NB: It, it’s basically what you’d see for really cheap in the housing edition, it’s just like a straight house with a back door and a front door and then a BB: (OV) Okay. What uhh, was it, what color do you know? NB: It’s like the color of those bricks like the tannish brown BB: Tan-brown, brick house NB: Gray roof, I’m pretty sure. BB: Is it, is it brick or is it? NB: It’s wood it’s like my home BB: And uhh where’s the kettle? NB: The kettle should just be in his appliances or out back on con—uhh concrete slab BB: Okay so he may have it inside NB: May have it inside, BB: Okay NB: I don’t know if we like washed it out or anything and the electrical tape’s in the trash somewhere now, it’s off into the ether 73 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 83 of 108 PageID #: 453 BB: Okay NB: The stuff we were using to seal it BB: Yeah okay… what’d you do with, what’d you do with the used electrical tape? NB: uhh we just chucked it in the trashcan BB: Okay NB: It was, it was in like a trashcan on the way home I’m pretty sure BB: Gotcha…. Anything else? NB: Oh! I remember why uhh, I remember why we went to Camby, we went there to get snacks because we had, we were getting like these nutrition shakes so we didn’t have to eat food, food BB: Why is that? NB: Cause if you get nervous, you want to puke BB: Oh okay NB: And liquid goes out a lot smoother than BB: Yeah, yeah, yeah…absolutely. When was that? In, in relation to the rest of the day NB: Oh it was, it was the same day. It was BB: But, so this is that after Walmart? NB: I think so BB: So you go to Walmart NB: Yeah we went to Walmart, got the stuff, went back because it would… we went—why were, why were in Greencastle? We went to Greencastle for…. I think there was like a— Yeah! We went to the Putnam county fair that day BB: Oh okay NB: And then we stopped at… the Greencastle Walmart on the way home. And then we went to Alex’s house, dropped off the stuff we had and then he was—he wasn’t there so we went to Camby and then got nutri—nutrition shakes and then came back to the Circle K bought the gas there because we went to Alex’s house, grabbed the gas can 74 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 84 of 108 PageID #: 454 BB: Circle K in Eminence or no? NB: Cir—uhh Circle K in Mooresville BB: Mooresville NB: It’s like a Circle K slash Shell BB: Yeah okay NB: And then… eh—are you able to like figure out which one it was like through a membership card? BB: Yeah, yeah do you—where is your uhh, where’s the debit card that you bought the stuff with from Walmart? NB: (OV) Oh… they have my wallet BB: In the wallet? NB: Yeah BB: Okay, alright… umm… yeah the.. we—we’ll get photos of it then NB: They have the debit card and then they—I think it’s like right there smack dab in the front it’s my Circle K card so they can figure out which one it was BB: Okay NB: And then that’s where we got the gas and headed home BB: Okay you got the gas with the Circle K card NB: While heading to Alex’s house not home BB: Gotcha…. Okay so you went to Alex’s house, well why do you drop all of this stuff at Alex’s house? NB: Oh we just…told him it, it’d be there so we just set it BB: Did he know what you were doing? NB: We told him that… we were BB: So he knows you… 75 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 85 of 108 PageID #: 455 NB: He, he knows BB: He know what you did NB: He knows that we were getting stuff set up BB: Okay NB: For something. But we didn’t tell him directly that it was for a synagogue and then like I said earlier, he’s a pretty smart guy, he probably figure—figured it out whenever we were gone BB: Uh huh NB: Extremely late because we took the pot back and BB: Okay NB: Af—afterwards so we took the pot back afterwards and BB: (OV) Yeah… and he knows you make… he knows you make homemade napalms there so NB: (OV) Yeah BB: Uhh he knows… he could probably figure it out from the… from the newspaper reports what it was NB: He-he’s, he’s a pretty smart guy so BB: Yeah… But you never had direct conversations with him about it? NB: Not that I can recall BB: Mhm NB: So BB: Who have you told about it? ...anyone? NB: Other, other than Peter and Alex… no BB: M’kay… no one else? Kay… and Peter… you sent the picture to Peter or at least one or…think couple pictures 76 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 86 of 108 PageID #: 456 NB: (OV) I think my wife sent the picture to it… BB: (OV) She did.. okay NB: (OV) I know she said we… I, I know on the way home she texted him saying BB: Has anyone else seen those pictures? NB: Alex has because BB: (OV) He has NB: I showed him whenever he brought it up, he’s just like hey did you hear about it BB: Uh huh NB: He knows we did it BB: Okay NB: But it was well, well after the fact… it was a couple of days after the fact and he was just like BB: (OV) Okay. What did, what did he say? NB: He’s just like hey, have you guys seen the said—headlines and he’s just like OH WOW that’s uhh… that’s a fire and I said yep, that’s, that’s a fire BB: Mhm NB: And that’s, that’s whenever the conscious was starting to set in for me so I was just like yeah we… we did that and he’s just like Oh Wow, that’s a fire. I said yeah, that’s, that’s a fire, BB: Yeah NB: And he’s just like that’s… that’s a big deal man. I said that’s a big deal, there’s news about it. He goes yup. BB: M’kay… huh NB: and I told him it was like making regional news because once Peter let us know about the headlines, he went ahead and said go ahead and keep track of it and then Kiyomi kept track of it so she kept me tapped it—tapped into the information on it so. 77 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 87 of 108 PageID #: 457 BB: Did he, did uhh Peter ever, ever tell you what his uhh well—I guess ultimately why he wanted to, uh to do this at a, at a synagogue? NB: He might’ve told my wife the motive BB: Mhm NB: Like directly word for word what his motive was. I don’t recall it, all I can say is probably to stir up people. BB: With… how does that stir up people? NB: Cause if they see a, a huge news headline BB: Mhm NB: there’s gonna be underlying groups that come in and be like Woah! People are actually doing things, maybe we can have a voice. BB: Okay. But what does it do the people at the synagogue NB: Scare the hell out of them. BB: Kay… Could you get that, umm… alright uhh we may have a few more questions uhh follow up umm… NB: Do you want to like get, get my phone number and call me? BB: (OV) Yeah I got… I got (UI) NB: Oh you already got it, okay. BB: I (IA). Uhh, I can tell you, we’re, we’re seizing your phone today so… you’re gonna have to NB: Oh okay BB: Uhh temporarily at least uhh, uhh, umm grab another device or uhh, umm yeah we’re, we’re, we’re seizing that one today NB: Right BB: cause it’s got evidence of a crime on it. Umm… NB: Do I have my, can I get my debit card for… 78 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 88 of 108 PageID #: 458 BB: (OV) Yeah I don’t they’re seizing it NB: gas and food BB: I don’t think they’re seizing that, they’ll just photograph that uhh… NB: Okay BB: Yeah, so NB: So that’s mainly what I’m worried about BB: (OV) Okay NB: I could live without a phone it’s no big deal. BB: Yeah, umm… listen it, going forward uhh… I don’t know what’s gonna happen, I don’t know if you’re gonna be charged. I don’t know if… would uhh but there’s a good possibility NB: Mhm BB: That, that happens okay. You understand this is a federal violation right? NB: What, how, how long would that be per se? BB: What do you mean? NB: How, how long of a…. BB: I… and, and I can’t, I’m not a, I’m not a lawyer so I really can’t advise you of like the, the statutes uhh there’s a couple statutes that, that apply and that and then different, they have different umm uhh sentencing guideline, that type stuff. Umm I, I don’t know NB: Oh BB: Uhh, and, and all—ultimately, you know what, what happens that, that’s up to some prosecutors anyway uhh, how, how it, how and when it would, would get charged. The thing you have to be very concerned with going forward is that you don’t threaten or intimidate anyone that’s involved in this process at all, okay? NB: Okay. BB: Let—let’s say uhh, cause we’re, we’re gonna talk to a lot of people uhh okay… umm, we’re thorough…uhh that’s what we do, okay. So we’re like, I’ll go talk to Alex, uhh we may have already talked to Alex… may have talked to other people already 79 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 89 of 108 PageID #: 459 NB: Mhm BB: Okay so, the, the main thing is don’t, don’t be uhh, uhh threatening or intimidating. NB: Don’t be an ass.. yeah BB: Yeah absolutely… uhh or allowing your wife to be involved in that either.. yeah, yeah it, it’s a, it’s a different uhh separate federal crime and that, that’s the kind, that’s the time when judges uhh you know… throw you immediately in, in, in, into jail so… umm…….. NB: So just try to BB: (OV) Let’s NB: stick to what I’ve been doing though? BB: Yeah, what the spark plug pieces in your car, what’s, what’s that from or what’s that for? NB: Spark plug pieces? BB: Yeah NB: I’ve been having to try and repair my car cause it’s an old rust bucket recently so BB: Are you… you putting in a new, you put a new spark plug in? NB: I’ve, I’ve tried to, I’m not a good mechanic… I’ve ended, I have ended up breaking a couple and then my wife and I just decided, you know what just screw it BB: (OV) Did, did you use that to break a…any glass anywhere? NB: We were using it to break glass at my friend’s house BB: Where… where’s that? NB: Alex’s, we clean… we had a.spare window from whenever he had to replace his car window and then we just (makes whiplash sound effect) BB: You threw it against that? NB: We were myth busting. BB: Okay… alright you didn’t, you didn’t use it to vandalize any properties or? NB: We couldn’t find any windows so… we just 80 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 90 of 108 PageID #: 460 BB: Oh at the… uhh NB: Yeah BB: At the synagogue? NB: And then the cameras were, the camera light whatevers were freaking us out so we’re just like yeah, no. BB: Okay. Did you wear the uhh bandanas that you purchased? NB: Yeah BB: You did wear them? NB: Yeah BB: Okay NB: Or tried to, one of them got gas on it and I’m just like this smells so freaking bad BB: Mhm NB: So mine was like on and off, on and off BB: Uh huh… was there anybody else involved besides the two of you and, and Peter. You sure about that? NB: I mean unless you technically count Alex no. BB: Well what was his involvement? NB: He gave the (OV) BB: (OV) Just to provide you the kettle? NB: Just the place where we mixed the stuff and had the kettle. BB: Okay, so he knew you were mixing something to do something with it NB: Yeah BB: Did he know exactly what you were gonna do with it? NB: Not until he found out and saw the… news headlines 81 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 91 of 108 PageID #: 461 BB: What did he think you were gonna do with it? NB: We didn’t tell him anything, we just said we were gonna have experiments cause… we do that stuff out at my house BB: Okay NB: for just seeing what it does and BB: Okay NB: There’s an old dilapidated barn that nobody uses, so we just BB: At his house? NB: No at, at my house BB: (OV) at your house NB: At my house BB: What do you do there? NB: We mainly just like… check the breakability of glass and like smash shit BB: Mhm NB: It, it’s a easy way for my wife to let out any form of anger that she has because college is really frustrating for her so BB: Mhm NB: And then she’s, we’ve stopped recently and she’s wh-said saying hey that’s, that’s a really habit destroying things so she’s trying to BB: Mhm NB: run more and… she actually had to go on a run at like one this morning because she just woke up from a bad dream and… BB: Okay… alright. Ummm…… let’s do this uhh, I need to… uhh obviously they still have your vehicle just over there uhh, you, you didn’t even see it but, (IA) NB: Yeah I saw it pull in 82 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 92 of 108 PageID #: 462 BB: (OV) so… yeahh… oh you saw it, okay. NB: Yeah BB: Yeah so they’re over there uhh finishing that up once, once they’re done then uhh we’ll, we’ll give that back to ya. Umm… I need to use the restroom, I’m not sure about you NB: Yeah I do too BB: But yeah…. Umm, I’m gonna… I’m gonna, we’re gonna go over there. We have to search your person cause we have a search warrant for it so NB: You want me to take off my jacket now, I can BB: Uhh, lets, umm lets, lets, lets go over there and uhh NB: Let, let go (UI) BB: Yeah, exactly… Well no hang on, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll drive over NB: Okay BB: We can drive over there, yeah. NB: Save the walk. BB: Yeah NB: How much are these cars (IA) BB: I have no idea. Uhh… more than I want to pay, I can tell you that, I’m sure NB: More than I probably make in a good while BB: Yeah more, more than we all make in a good while….. Hey Glenn, umm do you want to do the search of his person real quick, do you guys want to do that real quick while uhh, while we’re here GC: Yeah BB: Just make sure uhhh we’re good, and then cause I, I really need to use the restroom GC: Yeah, okay\ PB: Can I grab a water out of the back? 83 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 93 of 108 PageID #: 463 BB: Uhh it’s not in the back anymore, umm I gave it to ohh uhh… umm what’s his name’s got it… uhh GC: Bri? BB: No.. not Bri uhh who are you with PB: That’s Bri BB: Who are you with BT: Lester? GC: (OV) Lester? BB: Lester, yeah Lester’s got it GC: There he is BB: in the back of his car. BT: Oh, I was about to be like huh, GC: Oh yeah BT: oh the water LB: Oh the water, you all need water? BB: Umm, yeah do you, do you want to do that, we’ll execute that. GC: (OV) Yeah… yeah BB: Are, are you guys done with the car? You are okay… umm GC: Well BB: Yeah, just so you know he, he said uhh as far as that day uhh the stuff involved with that day, what would be in the car? You said gas can NB: There should be like, like possibly a gas can, might’ve left it at Alex’s cause it’s actually his BB: Okay 84 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 94 of 108 PageID #: 464 NB: And then there should’ve been like…. there should’ve been like the Gatorade bottles with the aluminum, there should’ve been like the not working gel Drano and then… BB: He said the gel Drano didn’t work GC: (OV) Didn’t work BB: Yeah NB: There should be like a backpack of stuff GC: Can’t believe what you read on the interent BB: Noo GC: (Laughs) NB: Well it, it takes the purple stuff of Drano for it to work so GC: (OV) Got it… got it… yeah. Okay. BB: Okay and that’s uhh… anything else that was in the car that, from that night? NB: Uhhhhh…..I, I said the backpack with the GC: Backpack NB: Yeah GC: Yeah we got that NB: And then GC: I’ll show you, I’ll, I can go through what we’ve BB: Let’s, let’s and let’s take photo of the jacket, I don’t think we need to seize it GC: Okay BB: Let’s just take photos of it GC: Okay BB: Umm, you just cause that’s, that’s what you were wearing the day you were at Walmart uhh we’re not gonna seize it umm… but yeah if you just do a thorough search of him and then uhh, I gotta talk to Nick to… uhh 85 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 95 of 108 PageID #: 465 GC: Okay BB: And then I’m just gonna run over here and then before we release the car… let me talk to Nick and then GC: Yeah I just want to chat with you real quick before we BB: Yeah GC: the car BB: Yep GC: Yeah BB: Okay… why don’t uhh… if, if you’re good GC: Can you do the, just BB: Go ahead… jump out and they’re, they’re gonna search you… umm and then uhh we’ll go from there. Umm GC: I’ll get Paul to do that, I mean we’ll be fine either way BB: (OV) Yeah… yeah…. Is this open, is this Golden Coral open yet? Let me uhh, let me go cut this off……this device…..Test, test, test… test, test, test NB: Is that off? BB: No… uhhh test, test, test. Time right now is 9:06 a.m. I’m gonna shut this device off at this time. [New Recording] BB: Test one, two. Test one, two. This is Special Agent Bradley A. Bookwalter, time right now is 9:36 a.m. uhh cut this recording device on again for uhh further interview of Nolan Brewer….. Alright. GC: You want me to just bring him over here and I… BB: Yeah, you’re, you’re welcome to stay in…. (UI) up on that side.. yeah GC: No I’ll get in the back. 86 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 96 of 108 PageID #: 466 BB: Hey Nolan…. You got a few more minutes? Alright…. You, you good to answer a few more questions?.... Okay. Still, still good to answer them without a lawyer present? NB: I should be fine. BB: Well you tell me, it’s up to you, you know. NB: I mean… I guess ask one question of them and then I can… BB: What’s that? NB: I, I guess ask one question of it and see what it’s like BB: You want… I, I , I told you, I told you before. You can stop answering questions at any, any time, if you’re not comfortable, you can stop answering. Do you understand that? NB: Alright BB: Huh? NB: Alright BB: So you’re, you’re good to proceed. Cause we got, we got a few follow up questions that we wanted to ask you….. It’s based upon uhh, some of the like, some of the stuff we found in the car… just the things that we’ve talked about that… uh we, we were discussing and it’s umm it is uhh things we realized we didn’t actually uhh talk, talk about the first time. EK: And Nolan if we, you know start to ask about it….. you could stop at any time so if something makes you uncomfortable like if, the direction goes a—a way you don’t, you don’t want to talk about, you can stop talking like… you, you’re free to NB: Yeah the fifth, fifth EK: I don’t know about the fifth but you, you, you’re not under obligation to talk to us if you don’t want to. NB: Alright, that’s… go ahead and start off with a couple of questions BB: Okay… The, the stuff that was in your car. Uhh, that, that they found in your car umm, umm Glenn was actually involved in…. and Glenn Carlson GC: Yeah BB: is in here, he’s, he’s an FBI agent also, do you have your credentials? NB: Yeah, I, I talked to him 87 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 97 of 108 PageID #: 467 BB: You did, okay, alright. Umm… Glenn’s in the, in, in the car now too, uhh umm… do umm he found the backpack with Gatorade bottles with the aluminum foil in it NB: Mhm BB: What was the purpose of that? NB: That, that was the Drano thingy BB: Okay NB: But then the gel Drano doesn’t work so we (IA) BB: When did you figure out that the gel Drano didn’t work? NB: Whenever we got away from the scene BB: Mhm NB: I think it was the weekend after we we’re just like… cause we were too nervous to lay down any of the Drano’s BB: Mhm NB: So we went back a week later when we were having our Sunday hangout at Alex uhh after all of our friends had left it was just my wife, Alex and I BB: Mhm NB: We took the Drano, set it out… well took one of the Gatorade bottles set it out, poured the Drano in there and then stepped back a bit and then waited for like half an hour and nothing happened. So we found out that it wouldn’t have worked anyways so…. It’s the gel Drano not the purple one BB: But you did this after you had done the NB: (OV) Yeah it was like the week after BB: But why didn’t, did you take it, you took it up there to the synagogue with you right? NB: Yeah BB: Why didn’t you use it there? 88 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 98 of 108 PageID #: 468 NB: Because we were too nervous, we decided… like… cause…. Peter was saying like i—if we can stuff as close to the synagogue as possible. BB: Mhm NB: That’d be best. But we decided, it—it’s a little thing dumpster thing what’s the point of using Drano on it. The Drano’s on BB: The bomb or the? NB: The, the it’s the BB: Yeah I call it a Drano bomb NB: (OV) It, it’s, it’s it’s, it’s like a baking soda volcano basically BB: Right.. but it was it the purpose of that to use the napalm with that to… spread it or? NB: It was… uhh.. we were just gonna set it like…. one at each corner just to have like BB: Okay NB: Stuff on the corner of the building BB: That’s what I didn’t understand… so, so you guys tried… you said you tried to get inside or? NB: Peter wanted us to try and get inside BB: Yeah NB: Which he told us to buy spark plugs but then we decided no we’re just gonna save a couple of the spark plugs and see if we can repair a car with it…which we didn’t have the right type of style spark plugs so then we used it for BB: (OV) So what was the purp… what would the purpose of the spark plugs be NB: The uhh, there’s aluminum oxide in the ceramic of a spark plug where if you throw it at a window BB: Uh huh NB: It’s like BB: Bust it 89 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 99 of 108 PageID #: 469 NB: Like that BB: Yeah NB: It’s so simple BB: Okay NB: But….. we got the ceramic from the spark plug for that… BB: Yup NB: but then we didn’t get up to synagogue so we said never mind we don’t want, we don’t wanna so we just stuck with the dumpster area BB: So he told you to, to bring spark plugs NB: Yeah he, he wanted us BB: To bust the windows NB: (OV) he wanted us to try and get inside. BB: Uh huh NB: and then the easiest way to get through a window would be aluminum oxide ceramic BB: Yup NB: for a spark plug BB: Okay NB: and then instead BB: Did, did you try to use it? NB: No BB: The spark plug NB: No BB: Cause they were busted right? NB: Yeah they were bust… I guess 90 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 100 of 108 PageID #: 470 BB: Why, why were they busted? NB: They, they shouldn’t…. cause th—you, you have to have the small ceramic piece, you can’t just chuck a spark plug it doesn’t work that way BB: (OV) Gotcha… okay GC: So you broke them with the intention of trying to get in and then at the last minute decided not to NB: Yeah we, we didn’t want to GC: Okay BB: We-what was, what would’ve been the purpose of getting inside? NB: He was wanting us to get inside to have…. The Dranos inside BB: Okay NB: but BB: and the napalm NB: The napalm probably BB: Mhm NB: Her and I decided we didn’t want to put the napalm in there, we didn’t want to burn anything in the—inside. BB: Okay NB: But then BB: When did you decide that? NB: We were discussing it on the way up so it was between like on 465 heading north, we decided we’re not gonna actually burn the place down… no, no, no of course not. So… (UI) BB: Well, I mean if you’re going to get inside and, and use the napalm that’s, I mean… uhh that’s—that’s gonna burn the place—th—potentially burn the place down… right? 91 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 101 of 108 PageID #: 471 NB: No…. we-we that—we and that was the discussion we were having in order to decide not using the napalm inside,—not taking it inside BB: Okay EK: But that was Peter’s intention, that’s what he wanted? NB: Yeah he, he was wanting us to like have it EK: (OV) ignite the Drano bomb inside the synagogue. NB: He said something about like take the Drano bomb after you fill it up and then BB: Uh huh NB: and then toss the napalm on top of it EK: Oh okay NB: and then light it and run so that whenever the Drano bomb went off, it would set the napalm everywhere BB: Did you do that? NB: No BB: You weren’t able to do that NB: Noooo…. I just took the pot and plopped in in the middle of the thing BB: The quest—question I have is why, why is the, why is the napalm the, the… the fire whenever the uhh.. a flammable substance the, the gas and, and the Styrofoam NB: (OV) Is it the scattered? BB: Yeah why is it scattered? NB: Because we were trying to have it like in front of the flag evenly BB: Uh huh NB: Cause how I told you earlier, it was gonna be like an effect on it BB: Okay NB: Rather than… burning anything 92 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 102 of 108 PageID #: 472 BB: Yeah NB: We, I plopped the napalm, rather than spreading it like that I plopped the napalm so it was just one big pile and then BB: Oh okay NB: (OV) (UI) there was some sticking inside the pan so whenever I chucked it behind me BB: Yeah NB: So I could spread the napalm around a little bit which is why there’s that glob off to the left BB: Yeah NB: I, I think it’s off to the left BB: Mhm NB: There’s that glob that burned, I took some it and then it was sticking to my hand too bad so I just stopped. But then that glob fell out of the pan back there and she lit that too. BB: Okay, did you use a firework at all? NB: A firework? No BB: Yeah, we, we found a— like a M-80 an expended M-80 uhh there by the uhh… by the dumpster or by the wall NB: A M-80 GC: Mhm BB: Like a 8—M-80…expended… you know… you know the, the cardboard uhh that contains the, the gun powder from the M-80? You know what I mean, you know what a M-80 is right? Firecracker. NB: Oh.. oh a firecracker… No. BB: (OV) Yeah… it, it was, it’s an expended like uhh ummm roll from a firecracker. You didn’t use any fircrackers? GC: How many cardboard things did you have in the back of your trunk like you got those, those cardboard cylinders? 93 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 103 of 108 PageID #: 473 NB: Yeah GC: It’s like that, only it was a lot smaller, it was just not, not that big. BB: Oh… okay. EK: So you weren’t harvesting gun powder out of fireworks or anything like that?... to make a device? NB: I mean we bought sparklers but it wasn’t for lighting anything, we were having that for the 4th of July with the kiddos. EK: Okay and you didn’t try to take the flammable material off the sparkler to put into one of the cylinders NB: No I think, I think EK: Nolan NB: we still have some spare ones at the house EK: Okay, spare what? NB: Like sparklers left over from when the kiddos didn’t burn them EK: (OV) How many sparklers did you buy? NB: It was just like uhh, I think it was like either the six or the big 2-pack EK: Okay NB: Of the boxes where it’s got like a bunch of them EK: And you weren’t trying to use those as an ignition device or explosive device NB: If…. No, no. Gun powder, no. We were sticking to the Drano and napalm EK: Okay cause BB: Well understand we’re talking to Kiyomi we got guys talking to Kiyomi, NB: Mmm BB: You, you get that right? So she says that uhh… you guys communicated with someone on Discord but it was all your idea that you spontaneously came up with that Friday 94 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 104 of 108 PageID #: 474 NB: Hmm BB: Was that, is, does she uhh… not telling us something or you not telling us something? NB: From the messages I read between her and Peter I heard… I thought it was Peter telling her to do stuff but BB: Well is it, is it an idea you, that you and she came up with or is it something that she or that you were told? I mean it’s NB: I was told and whenever I read the messages it seemed to me like he was telling her but that might just be like giving my wife the benefit of the doubt sort of thing BB: So she may have been the one that came up with this all day idea? NB: Yeah BB: So.. NB: And then I prob—I, I agreed upon it so I, I just seem… it seemed to me BB: Mhm NB: that Peter was telling her what to do BB: mhm… no… and the purpose again… of doing this? NB: Sending a message of like, get out I guess. Sending a message you know… BB: To the – to the Jews? NB: Yeah BB: And not the religious Jews? The.. NB: The ethnic Jews BB: (OV) The race… okay NB: (OV)Not the religious Jews BB: Okay. Hmm. Alright, ummm. Let me ask you this, uhh… what are your thoughts going forward… know we….we’re do you go from here? NB: Like.. like (IA) 95 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 105 of 108 PageID #: 475 BB: Like… umm… we, we let’s say we released you today what, where would you go, what would you do. NB: I’d be going to work and get as many hours in as I can and then return home to my wife. BB: Okay NB: And then, if I get home quick enough try to call the apprenticeship office BB: Why? NB: Oh… the office for the Ironwork Union that I’m trying to het into BB: Okay… alright. NB: I have to figure out their hours so I can go in and try and fill out an application BB: M’kay… ummm NB: I’m just trying to focus on being able to earn money so my wife and I can live out on our own because my wife—my mom’s kind of driving her crazy BB: Yeah NB: So BB: Okay… Glenn GC: No… (IA) I think the, the purpose of the question Nolan is we’re, you’re not planning on doing another NB: This again? GC: Yeah NB: No, we’re planning on becoming more active in Identity Europa because they match up with me better and I’m trying to pull her to my side of things. GC: Yeah… I mean they’re definitely NB: Yeah it’s, it’s so much more peaceful and they’re really nice folks and GC: Yeah there’s nothing wrong with that. NB: Sarah’s got such cute kids. 96 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 106 of 108 PageID #: 476 GC: Okay. BB: Eric? No… you good? EK: No the only other issue I had was uhh on the sparkler thing, I mean I think you… you tried to (IA) we appreciated that BB: Mhm EK: Umm, to I think that’s a good thing that, with regard to the sparklers that just doesn’t make any sense to me and then the, the (UI) to hear that you weren’t trying to make another ignition device with those NB: That I know of, I don’t think, I, I’m pretty sure we didn’t like fireworks unless EK: Okay NB: My wife grabbed something EK: Okay NB: I never saw fireworks EK: Okay… and I think going forward…. Going to work and you know, that type of thing is NB: Focus on life, not that EK: (OV) Might be good NB: (OV) Try to stick away from politics EK: (OV) That’ll be good GC: What, what was the purpose of the—it was cardboard cylinders that are in the back of your car what are those NB: Oh those are left over tarp mats cause…they’re, they’re from my, that’s my mom’s car orginially GC: Okay… okay NB: And my dad used to use my mom’s car to get back and forth to work GC: Okay 97 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-1 Filed 05/15/19 Page 107 of 108 PageID #: 477 NB: And we’ve just never taken the cylinders out, they were old tarp mat rollers that we used for laying out tarp on the school floor. GC: Got it. BB: Well, it’s a good day cause I just found a pack of gum umm, you…. Would you like a piece of gum… I NB: Yes actually that sounds fantastic BB: (OV) Huh, would like one? Hmm NB: Thank you BB: Yeah my pants uhh (UI) probably mine NB: Oh goodness, this is gonna have to be harvested (IA) BB: (OV) Uhh forget it, yeah… I, I would say don’t eat it… yeah NB: I got it BB: Ha!...umm.. yeah, alright well.. h-here—here’s the deal we’re, we’re done searching the car, we’re done uhh searching your person umm, I’m gonna ask, uhh I need to talk to umm my supervisors uhh, I’m gonna ask you to… to hang around, you’re not obliged to do that uhh but I’m, I’m gonna ask that you just hang out for a second. Is it bad? Sorry…. Sorry.. Uhh, ummm how does gum go bad? Anyway. So, if, if, if uhh, if you’re good with it… just uhh hang out uhh and we’ll uhh, we’ll uhh if, if we got any ot—other follow-up questions we’ll go from there. Is that good with you? NB: Yeah I can… I can just hang out. BB: Okay NB: I’ll have to go somewhere to use the restroom BB: Absolutely, yeah me too. 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Will fill in the Name field of calls and SMS if there's a match. 4 5 Project Processor Finisher Post Project Contents Type Included in report Total Autofill 1 825 Call Log 1 32 Cookies 3 3419 (1 Deleted) Installed Applications 1 896 (10 Deleted) MMS Messages 5 44 Searched Items 62 536 SMS Messages 4 2792 User Accounts 3 65 Web Bookmarks 3 17 Web History 48 8311 (21 Deleted) Timeline 131 17189 (63 Deleted) Data Files 12 920 12 920 Images (22 Deleted) 2 Case Autofill (1) 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 46 of 79 PageID #: 524 Details Deleted email: djbrewer800@yahoo.com Source: Chrome Timestamp: 2/23/2014 22:03(UTC-5) Call Log (1) # 1 Type Outgoing Parties To: 3173745857 Kyou-chan Direction: Outgoing Timestamp 7/8/2018 16:14(UTC-4) Duration Country code Network Video call 00:00:28 Source Deleted Source Extraction: File System, Logical Cookies (3) # Name 1 as Source Extraction: File System, Logical %7B%22n%22%3A% .imdb.com 7B%22t%22%3A%5B 320%2C50%5D%7D% 7D Value Domain Creation time Expires Accessed Chrome 2 WMF-LastAccessGlobal Source Extraction: File System, Logical 3 WMF-LastAccess Source Extraction: File System, Logical Related Application / 6/23/2018 10:54(UTC-4) 6/24/2018 03:00(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:55(UTC-4) 23-Jun-2018 .wikipedia.or Chrome g / 6/23/2018 10:44(UTC-4) 7/25/2018 07:59(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:44(UTC-4) 23-Jun-2018 en.m.wikipe dia.org / 6/23/2018 10:44(UTC-4) 7/25/2018 07:59(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:44(UTC-4) Chrome Path Deleted Installed Applications (1) # 1 Name PhotoLayers 〜 Superimpos e,Eraser Description Identifier Timestamp Version: Source Extraction: File System, Logical Application ID: com.handycloset.android.photolayers Purchase Date 6/19/2018 15:04(UTC-4) Install Date Deleted Date Copyright Permissions Alias names Deleted 3 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 47 of 79 PageID #: 525 MMS Case Messages (5) # Parties Content Other 1 Timestamp: 7/8/2018 22:56(UTC-4) From: +17657121351 Chan! Kona * Subject: No subject Body: Are you getting game controllers Status: Unread Priority: Low Source Extraction: Logical Direction: Incoming Timestamp: 7/8/2018 15:05(UTC-4) From: +13173745857 Kyou-chan * Subject: No subject Body: I caught 5 squirtles Status: Read Priority: Low Source Extraction: Logical Direction: Incoming Timestamp: 7/8/2018 14:00(UTC-4) From: +17657121351 Chan! Kona * Subject: No subject Body: Yep Status: Read Priority: Low Source Extraction: Logical Subject: No subject Body: Status: Read Priority: Low Source Extraction: Logical Subject: No subject Body: Your place right? Status: Sent Source Extraction: Logical 2 3 4 5 Direction: Incoming Timestamp: 7/8/2018 13:59(UTC-4) Direction: Incoming Timestamp: 7/8/2018 13:59(UTC-4) To: +13173745857 Kyou-chan * Deleted +17657121351 Chan! Kona * Direction: Outgoing Searched Items (62) # Timestamp Source Value 1 7/7/2018 11:07(UTC-4) 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) 6/24/2018 14:38(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:54(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:54(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:54(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:54(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:51(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:49(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:49(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:46(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:45(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:45(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:45(UTC-4) 6/23/2018 10:44(UTC-4) Chrome adolf hitler inspiratilna File System, Logical Chrome adolf hitler inspiratilna File System, Logical Chrome adolf hitler inspiratilna File System, Logical Chrome adolf hitler inspiratilna File System, Logical Chrome adolf hitler inspiratilna File System, Logical Chrome adolf hitler inspiratilna File System, Logical Chrome adolf hitler inspiratilna File System, Logical Chrome File System, Logical Chrome World Banks owned by the Rothschild family the greatest 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PageID #: 526 10:44(UTC-4) 6/19/2018 15:02(UTC-4) 6/19/2018 13:52(UTC-4) 6/19/2018 13:52(UTC-4) 6/19/2018 13:52(UTC-4) 6/19/2018 13:51(UTC-4) 5/30/2018 06:16(UTC-4) 5/30/2018 06:16(UTC-4) 4/24/2018 11:25(UTC-4) 4/24/2018 11:25(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 13:08(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 13:08(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 12:23(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 12:23(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 12:23(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 12:23(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 12:23(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 12:23(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 12:23(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 12:23(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 12:23(UTC-4) 4/20/2018 12:23(UTC-4) 4/16/2018 10:31(UTC-4) 4/12/2018 11:54(UTC-4) 4/12/2018 11:54(UTC-4) 4/12/2018 11:54(UTC-4) 4/12/2018 11:53(UTC-4) 4/12/2018 11:53(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 13:09(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 13:09(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 13:07(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 13:07(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 13:07(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 13:07(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 13:07(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 12:26(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 12:26(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 12:25(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 12:25(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 12:25(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 12:25(UTC-4) 4/9/2018 12:25(UTC-4) Play Store photo overlay app File System, Logical Chrome blue and black swastika graphic File System, Logical Chrome blue and black swastika graphic File System, Logical Chrome blue and black swastika graphic File System, Logical Chrome blue and black swastika graphic File System, Logical Chrome iron cross File System, Logical Chrome iron cross File System, Logical Chrome tay tweets compilation File System, Logical Chrome tay tweets compilation File System, Logical Chrome adolf Chrome adolf hitler birthday Chrome adolf Chrome adolf hitler birthday Chrome adolf Chrome adolf hitler birthday Chrome adolf Chrome adolf hitler birthday Chrome adolf Chrome adolf hitler birthday Chrome adolf Chrome adolf hitler birthday File System, Logical Chrome File System, Logical Chrome when the jews found out it wasn't a shower meme when the jews found out it wasn't a shower meme when the jews found out it wasn't a shower meme when the jews found out it wasn't a shower meme when the jews found out it wasn't a shower meme when the jews found out it wasnt a shower meme irreden Chrome irredentism File System, Logical Chrome swastika images File System, Logical Chrome swastika images File System, Logical Chrome swastika images File System, Logical Chrome swastika images File System, Logical Chrome swastika images File System, Logical Chrome swastika images File System, Logical Chrome swastika images File System, Logical Chrome swastika images File System, Logical Chrome swastika images File System, Logical Chrome swastika images File System, Logical Chrome swas Chrome swastik images Chrome Chrome Chrome Chrome Chrome Unknown File System, Logical File System, Logical Unknown File System, Logical File System, Logical Unknown File System, Logical File System, Logical Unknown File System, Logical File System, Logical Unknown File System, Logical File System, Logical Unknown File System, Logical File System, Logical File System, Logical File System, Logical File System, Logical File System, Logical Unknown Unknown File System, Logical File System, Logical File System, Logical 5 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 49 of 79 PageID #: 527 SMS Case Messages (4) * These details are cross-referenced from this device's contacts # Folder 1 Inbox 2 Sent 3 Sent 4 Sent Party Time From +13178748811 Jacob Montgomery * Direction: Incoming To +13173745857 Kyou-chan * Direction: Outgoing To +13173745857 Kyou-chan * Direction: Outgoing To +13173745857 Kyou-chan * Direction: Outgoing All timestamps Status Message 8/20/2018 17:20(UTC-4) Unread How you doing lil hitler? Source Extraction: Logical 4/29/2018 18:39(UTC-4) Sent Right now we're just getting stuff for napalm Source Extraction: Logical 3/10/2018 17:26(UTC-5) Sent And YES IS CALLED THEM SPICS! FUCK OFF! Source Extraction: Logical 3/10/2018 17:26(UTC-5) Sent I gotta get back to work and clean up some monstrous mess some fucking spics made. Source Extraction: Logical Deleted User Accounts (3) # User Account 1 Creation time 3/1/2014 18:31(UTC-5) Username: troybrewer1167@gmail.com Entries Addresses Notes Deleted Source Extraction: File System, Logical Password: Bilbo2010 Service Type: https://minecraft.net/ 2 Creation time 3/1/2014 18:32(UTC-5) Service Type: https://account.mojang.com/ Source Extraction: File System, Logical 3 Creation time 6/16/2014 09:37(UTC-4) Service Type: https://login.yahoo.com/ Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 50 of 79 PageID #: 528 Web Bookmarks (3) # Title URL Last Visited Visits Path Source Time 1 FreeCell http://www.freecellcardgame.com/ /Bookmarks bar Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/2/2014 09:37(UTC-4) 2 Mahjong at FREEGAMES.WS Play free Mah-Jong, a solitaire game online http://www.freegames. ws/games/boardgame s/mahjong/freemahjon g.htm /Bookmarks bar Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/2/2014 11:53(UTC-4) 3 Solitaire http://www.solitairecardgame.com/ /Bookmarks bar Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/2/2014 09:38(UTC-4) Deleted Web History (48) # Title 1 2 3 4 URL https://www.google.com/search?q=adolf+hi tler+inspiratilna&oq=adolf+hitler+inspiratiln a&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.11802j0j9&client =ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chromemobile&ie=UTF8#scso=uid_Qvw7W9CZL4HWjwTXvpTgA w_6:658 https://www.google.com/search?q=adolf+hi tler+inspiratilna&oq=adolf+hitler+inspiratiln a&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.11802j0j9&client =ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chromemobile&ie=UTF8#scso=uid_Qvw7W9CZL4HWjwTXvpTgA w_6:488 https://www.google.com/search?q=adolf+hi tler+inspiratilna&oq=adolf+hitler+inspiratiln a&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.11802j0j9&client =ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chromemobile&ie=UTF8#scso=uid_Qvw7W9CZL4HWjwTXvpTgA w_6:310 https://www.google.com/search?q=adolf+hi tler+inspiratilna&oq=adolf+hitler+inspiratiln a&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.11802j0j9&client =ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chromemobile&ie=UTF8#scso=uid_Qvw7W9CZL4HWjwTXvpTgA w_6:276 https://www.google.com/search?q=adolf+hi tler+inspiratilna&oq=adolf+hitler+inspiratiln a&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.11802j0j9&client =ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chromemobile&ie=UTF-8 Last Visited Visits Source 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 7/3/2018 18:44(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 5 adolf hitler inspiratilna - Google Search 6 adolf hitler inspiratilna - Google Search https://www.google.com/search?q=adolf+hi 7/3/2018 tler+inspiratilna&oq=adolf+hitler+inspiratiln 18:44(UTC-4) a&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.11802j0j9&client =ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chromemobile&ie=UTF-8 Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 7 Complete List of BANKS Owned or Controlled by the Rothschild Family Humans Are Free http://humansarefree.com/2013/11/complet 6/24/2018 e-list-of-banks-ownedcontrolled.html?m=0 14:39(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 8 World Banks owned by the Rothschild family Google Search https://www.google.com/search?q=World+ Banks+owned+by+the+Rothschild+family& oq=World+Banks+owned+by+the+Rothsch ild+family&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.16552j0j 7&client=ms-androidverizon&sourceid=chromemobile&ie=UTF-8 Karel Donk's Blog » Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story https://blog.kareldonk.com/adolf-hitler-theNEVER Told greatest-story-never-told/ 6/24/2018 14:38(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/23/2018 10:55(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 10 Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told (2013) - https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3526810/ IMDb 6/23/2018 10:54(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 11 Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told (2013) - https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3526810/ IMDb 6/23/2018 10:54(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 12 the greatest story never told wiki - Google Search https://www.google.com/search?client=ms- 6/23/2018 android10:54(UTC-4) verizon&ei=Jl8uW7KHOsr10wLDiLmACw& q=the+greatest+story+never+told+wiki&oq =the+greatest+story+never+tkld&gs_l=mob ile-gws-wizserp.1.0.0i71l5.0.0..11790...0....0.0.......0.2 h51gHEcUc0%3D Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 9 Deleted 7 13 the greatest story never tkld - Google Search https://www.google.com/search?q=the+gre 6/23/2018 Chrome #: 529 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 51 of 79 PageID atest+story+never+tkld&oq=the+greatest+ 10:54(UTC-4) Source 14 who owns the fedsral rwserve - Google Search 15 who owns the federal reserve 16 Does the Rothschild family control the world's money supply? Here's the truth 17 banks owned by the rothschild family - Google Search 18 what is the jewish question - Google Search 19 what is the jewish question - Google Search 20 the jewish question - Google Search 21 Jewish question - Wikipedia 22 the jewish question - Google Search 23 snowbeam_swastika_by_luckmanne1378131693482.png (1276×796) 24 images.jpeg (240×210) 25 26 blue and black swastika graphic - Google Search 27 blue and black swastika graphic - Google Search story+never+tkld+&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3. 6155j0j9&client=ms-androidverizon&sourceid=chromemobile&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=who+o wns+the+fedsral+rwserve&oq=who+owns+ the+fedsral+rwserve&aqs=chrome..69i57j0 l3.9361j0j9&client=ms-androidverizon&sourceid=chromemobile&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=who+o wns+the+federal+reserve&client=msandroidverizon&prmd=vnsi&source=lnms&tbm=sh op&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjDpLnLhOrbAhX E5J8KHVUwApMQ_AUIEygD https://ideapod.com/rothschild-familycontrol-worlds-money-supply-heres-truth/ Extraction: File System, Logical 6/23/2018 10:51(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/23/2018 10:51(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/23/2018 10:50(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical https://www.google.com/search?ei=HV0u W7zoIoaE8AOizJ2oCw&q=banks+owned+ by+the+rothschild+family&oq=banks+owne d+by+the+&gs_l=mobile-gws-wizserp.1.0.0l3j0i22i30l2.188224.204619..211 902...9....284.11230.0j24j29......0....1.......3. .0i71j35i39j46i131j0i131j46i67j0i67j0i20i26 4j46i10i20i264j0i10j46i10j46i39j46i20i264j 0i131i67j0i13.4VRhgh4pZ00%3D https://www.google.com/search?ei=x1wuW 9jNH4WM8APZnpzYBg&q=what+is+the+je wish+question&oq=what+is+the+jewish+q uestion&gs_l=mobile-gws-wizserp.1.0.0i67j0j0i30j0i5i30.6644.10459..12 427...3....305.2117.0j2j6j1......0....1.........0i 71j35i39j0i7i30j0i13.d1%2FQvXCZEmY%3 D https://www.google.com/search?ei=x1wuW 9jNH4WM8APZnpzYBg&q=what+is+the+je wish+question&oq=what+is+the+jewish+q uestion&gs_l=mobile-gws-wizserp.1.0.0i67j0j0i30j0i5i30.6644.10459..12 427...3....305.2117.0j2j6j1......0....1.........0i 71j35i39j0i7i30j0i13.d1%2FQvXCZEmY%3 D https://www.google.com/search?source=hp &ei=llwuW5W1DIrN0wLG7bJY&q=the+jew ish+question&oq=the+jew&gs_l=mobilegws-wizhp.1.3.0l3j0i20i264j46.39240.42708..4502 8...2....289.1828.27......0....1.......3..35i39j0i131j46i131j46i39. JiBr9d2OioY%3D https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_que stion 6/23/2018 10:49(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/23/2018 10:46(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/23/2018 10:45(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/23/2018 10:45(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/23/2018 10:44(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical https://www.google.com/search?source=hp &ei=llwuW5W1DIrN0wLG7bJY&q=the+jew ish+question&oq=the+jew&gs_l=mobilegws-wizhp.1.3.0l3j0i20i264j46.39240.42708..4502 8...2....289.1828.27......0....1.......3..35i39j0i131j46i131j46i39. JiBr9d2OioY%3D file:///storage/emulated/0/Download/snowb eam_swastika_by_luckmanne1378131693482.png 6/23/2018 10:44(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/19/2018 13:53(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical file:///storage/emulated/0/Download/image s.jpeg 6/19/2018 13:53(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical https://www.google.com/search?q=blue+a nd+black+swastika+graphic&client=msandroidverizon&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isc h&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUidOBpuDbAhXJj lQKHSqjDj4Q_AUIESgB&biw=360&bih=51 1&dpr=2#imgrc=L7i3gWTM-ZgEbM: https://www.google.com/search?q=blue+a nd+black+swastika+graphic&client=msandroidverizon&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isc h&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUidOBpuDbAhXJj lQKHSqjDj4Q_AUIESgB&biw=360&bih=51 1&dpr=2 https://www.google.com/search?q=blue+a nd+black+swastika+graphic&client=msandroidverizon&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isc h&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUidOBpuDbAhXJj lQKHSqjDj4Q_AUIESgB&biw=360&bih=51 1&dpr=2 6/19/2018 13:52(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/19/2018 13:52(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 6/19/2018 13:52(UTC-4) Chrome Source Extraction: File System, Logical 8 28 blue and1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP black swastika graphic - 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Bookwalter, FBI Indianapolis Source Language(s): English Target Language: English Transcribed by: Brianna Tillery Participants: Nolan Brewer (NB) Confidential Human Source (CHS) Unidentified Female (UF) Abbreviations: (OV) (UI) (IA) Overlapping Voices Unintelligible Inaudible The following is a transcript of a recorded conversation between CHS and Nolan Brewer, which occurred on August 4, 2018. 57 1 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 65 of 79 PageID #: 543 [Beginning of Transcript] [01:10:15] CHS: Yeah. But No, hey come here. No anyways, was that your handiwork on the news or was that somebody else’s? NB: Oh the uhh, the thing up in Carmel? CHS: Yeah NB: Yeah that was us. CHS: It wa—it was? NB: Yeah. I have a picture of when the fire was still burning. CHS: I mean, you didn’t show me that one. See you didn’t tell me you set a fire. I have a secret that you can’t tell. NB: What? CHS: Angel might be pregnant. NB: Oooo CHS: Shh, she doesn’t want anybody to know. Ohhhh. NB: Yeah, that was it. CHS: Okay [chuckles] Ah-damn Nolan. You’re famous. NB: I know. Shut up, (laughs). CHS: Okay. Ohhh yeah it’s you.. Okay so. [01:11:24] [Unintelligible non-pertinent conversation] [01:11:26] CHS: Sorry to, it’s funny. Campfire Nolan, anyways. You’re gonna do pump trash. NB: Did you just [chuckles] 2 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 66 of 79 PageID #: 544 CHS: I know. Uhh, NB: [sings] stand near the campfire CHS: (OV) Yeah well I hit… I had heard a little, I, I , I briefly heard a little about it but then they switched over to that principal and that kid that got shot. I’m tired of hearing about them, I don’t care. They’re making them out to be celebrities and it’s ridiculous so I, I heard a little about it and I thought NB: Yeah if you actually drive down 70, you can see a billboard where it says Love and then it has the Jewish star of David in it, because like there’s, there’s like fourteen of those signs around Indiana now because they’re just trying to show some support for the people. [Laughing] CHS: But yeah I was like, I wonder if that’s what Nolan was talking about. NB: Yes CHS: No, I didn’t know. NB: Yep… yep CHS: Wow dude. NB: And it CHS: That’s getting national attention, do you realize that? NB: Yeah I know. There’s a 2.5K bounty on us CHS: There’s a what? NB: 2.5K bounty out for information on us, cause they have nothing CHS: See, yeah like I said, I, I quit watching the news cause I’m tired of hearing about them people so I didn’t know that either. NB: Yeah CHS: Dang, cause every time I try NB: Mike Pence tweeted about us CHS: Mike Pence tweeted about it NB: I, I’ll show it to you in a second 3 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 67 of 79 PageID #: 545 CHS: So was it just you and Kiyomi that did it? So it was just you two. NB: Mhm. CHS: There was nobody else with you that did that, just you guys? NB: Just us. CHS: Damn. NB: The smaller the group the better it is. CHS: Oh NB: Less chance of getting [01:13:00] [01:14:46] CHS: Wait now I’m making you smile [laughs] NB: Huh? CHS: I’m making you smile. So you just got up at like what uh, what time did you say one thirty or whatever it was and just decided to do it? NB: No. We planned it... Okay. We planned it out the entire day before and then we just stayed up and left it, left, we left my house at eight o’clock telling my parents hey we’re gonna go to (UI) and then go to the midnight showing of Mission Impossible: Fallout so Mom (UI) CHS: Oh I’ve already seen that NB: Yeah she’s just like CHS: Amazon Firestick NB: She says you guys aren’t you, you guys aren’t even gonna be back until like past three in the morning and I said yeah I know. We got home at like three forty from CHS: Damn NB: Cause we went to (UI), made the napalm, got the spray paint and everything 4 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 68 of 79 PageID #: 546 CHS: I don’t know, you definitely got somebody’s attention [01:15:50] [01:16:54] NB: You know you got me smiling over here CHS: I know. So what’s the Congress thing about, I mean… what do you just NB: Uh depl(UI) CHS: Educate people about what you’re doing or what you’re into NB: (UI) political speaking, the political speaking that I get done in Greencastle got me some attention so I got a (UI) CHS: Oh. NB: (UI) CHS: Well I got something for you if you’re nervous, I’ll show you how to do it and it works wonders, if you’re nervous and stressed out NB: I’m not nervous CHS: You go NB: I don’t get nervous during political speaking CHS: I am not the body. I am the mind. And it works, it’s like (breathes out) NB: You see CHS: A girl who showed me that NB: I don’t get nervous about politicals, political or public speaking it’s just the fact that I’m writing a dissertation length speech in order to give them every fact possible of how my system is better than our current one and how we can transition from capitalism into (UI) national socialism. Through what I, personally, personally believe in is the best hole patching system that I have studied and created through my own economic studies called national, national corporatism. CHS: Oh. Maybe you should run for president. (UI)… I had it. Whose kid screaming? Is that you causing a ruckus? He’s like what? 5 Case 1:18-cr-00286-TWP-DLP Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 69 of 79 PageID #: 547 UF: So, so shy CHS: [laughs] Okay while we’re down and slow, go get that done cause I don’t know if we’re gonna be what’s what is this, what am I reading? NB: Vice President Mike Pence CHS: Uhh sickened and appalled by the cowardly act of vandal…. See I don’t have Twitter so. Well I have 6 Case Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 70 of 79 PageID 548 1? 1?GOVERNMENT EXHIBIT 58 Case Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 71 of 79 PageID 549 GOVERNMENT EXHIBIT 59 Case Document 63-2 Filed 05/15/19 Page 72 of 79 PageID 550 73":w - it?; -. -- s: 13? 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