Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 1 of 14 Exhibit English Version @1515? Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 2 of 14 TRANSLATION PGN ADVERSARIAL SYSTEM OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE Republic of Panama Second Specialized Prosecutor?s Of?ce Against Organized Crime Via Espa?a, Avesa Building, First Floor, Telephone 505-3266 ANSWER TO PETITION ,1 Adjured by the legal attorney PROVISIONAL LIFTING I of RAMSES OWENS within the OF THE PROHIBITION TO proceedings against him for the LEAVE THE COUNTRY alleged commission of an offense against the Economic Order (in the form of Money Laundering) identi?ed as Registration 02-16. Panama, 11th October 2019 TO THE HONORABLE EIGHTEENTH JUDGE OF THE PENAL CIRCUIT OF THE FIRST JUDICIAL CIRCUIT OF PANAMA: The undersigned, ISIS DEL CARMEN SOTO, acting in my capacity as the Senior Special Prosecutor of the Second Specialized Prosecutor?s Of?ce Against Organized Crime Ad Honorem, do appear before you, in a customarily respectful and timely manner, with the purpose of answering the FOR THE PROVISIONAL LIFTING OF THE PROHIBITION TO LEAVE THE made by MARCELA ARAUZ QUINTERO, Esq. ., RAMSES legal attorney within the proceedings described 1n the above upper right margin. 1. Legal Grounds of the petitioner. As to the substance of her writ, MARCELA ARAUZ, Esq. af?rmed that, by means of the Sentence dated tenth (10th) January two thousand nineteen (2019), the Full Supreme Court of Justice resolved an Action for Habeus Corpus in favor of RAMSES OWENS SAAD, replacing the precautionary measures issued against him with those foreseen in Article 2127 of the Judicial Code, namely, the prohibition to leave the country, the obligation to present himself before a public authority three times a week and the obligation to reside in a speci?c location, which her client has complied with, who has besides ties in the Republic of Panama, as he has three children and is pursuing studies in Public Accounting at the Specialized University of Public Accounting. *r1selv Y?p 82 113111101111 3 P111111ce1Aulprizadam No. '12?18de 0 dr- marzo (1112 sperm?i111: at?p panessgroup not UK Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 3 of 14 . . cf?The litigation attorney added that her client is a party in a proceeding being carried out in the State of New York, United States of America, identi?ed as the case of STATES vs OWENS, ET AL 18 Cr. 693 RMB), in which proceeding an injunction was issued (sic) by Judge Berman for Mr. Ramses Owens Saad to appear on 29?h October 2019. She added besides that her client: attend on the date of the hearing scheduled for 29?? October 2019 in the United States and appear together with his legal attorney in order to put forward his arguments and carry out his e??ective defense within the proceeding being carried out by the Supreme Court of Justice of USA. Because of the above, she indicated that Mr. OWENS SAAD would leave Panama on Thursday, 24th October 2019 at 7:40 am. with destination to New York, United States, on ?ight CM0809 of the airline company Copa Airlines, and would return to the country on Wednesday, 6th November of the present year. II. Documents submitted together with the petition. Once her arguments having been put forward, Marcela Arauz, Esq. attached the following documents to her writ: 1. Copy of the ?ight itinerary listing the ?ights from Panama to the United States and subsequently from the United States to Panama. 2. Copy of the reservation at Ramada By Wayne Fair?eld Area, from 24th October 2019 up to Wednesday, 6th November 2019 in the name of Mr. Ramses Genaro Owens. 3. Memorandum dated 29?h August 2019 which describes the case being tried of ?United States vs Ramses Owens?, together with its respective Spanish translation. 4. Letter issued by Judge Richard M. Berman, which sets 29th October 2019 at 10:00 am. as the date of the hearing, together with its respective Spanish translation. Considerations of the Court. Upon a study of the petition that has been submitted, this Superior Court will now set out the reasoning that has led us to object to its admission: FIRST: The present penal case was started on ?fth (5th) April of the year two thousand sixteen (2016), in the wake of the massive newspaper publications, both domestic and international, whose origin was the investigation carried out by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICU), the wrongly named ?Panama Papers.? Investigation generated from 11.5 million documents contained in 2.6 terabytes obtained by the German newspaper Suddeutsche Zeitung, which revealed details of unknown ?nancial transactions, some of which were allegedly for laundering money arising from unlawful activities, through 214 thousand 488 offshore entities I Ii I tween; tape: '1 reductive Aulorlzada 2?30 1215:} de in dem' '13 de 2013 . . In! lift-E89} Eljl?ifQTU 1i fustriuHSQfUUP-nm ""11 Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 4 of 14 ?h?inked to persons in more than 200 countries, in different ?nancial jurisdictions where the law ?rm ecn?" 1n reference had a presence, over the course of over forty (40) years of activity. SECOND: As part of the investigative activity, they were able to incorporate diverse evidentiary material such as ?nancial information provided by TOWERBANK and ANDBANK, which con?rmed the transfers made through the intermediary of legal entities controlled by the Mossack Fonseca Group, such as GILLARD MANAGEMENT INC and MOSSFON ESCROW SRL, as may be seen in the records of transfers on pages 36.076, 36.117, 36.084 (Book 69) and pages 48.671, 48.676, 48.700, 48.704, 48.706 (Book 94), all of which forms part of the tracking that was done. Also added to the investigation was Note No. FSAI-3140-18, which was received on 14th November 2018, by means of which the Senior Prosecutor?s Of?ce of International Affairs attached Note of 12th November 2018, which came from the General Administration of Legal Affairs and Treaties of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which in turn attached the Verbal Note of 17th October 2018, which contains the proceedings carried out by German authorities in response to our request for Legal Assistance No.7-16 of 2nd June 2016, Whose Spanish translation was received by this investigative agency on 29th November 2018 and was attached to Of?cial Notice FSAI-3254-18. THIRD: Subsequent to international cooperation with the Federal Republic of Germany, by means of Resolution No.5 of sixth (6th) December two thousand eighteen (2018), charges were brought against twenty-six (26) persons for the alleged commission of offenses Against the Economic Order in the form of Money Laundering, with regard to facts that involve the company SIEMENS and among which was RAMSES OWENS, Esq., this being an investigation into the commission of a serious offense having a complex nature. FOURTH: This being so, it would be advisable to refer to procedural models that include precautionary measures, all this with the purpose of determining where the measure of restriction of the person applied to Mr. RAMSES GENARO OWENS SAAD 1s to be found, as his technical defense is requesting the provisional lifting of the precautionary measure that has been issued against him. In relation to this matter, our Judicial Code lists personal precautionary measures in its Article 2127, these being the following: a) The prohibition for the defendant to exit the territory of the Republic of Panama without judicial authorization. b) The obligation to appear periodically before a public authority; 0) The obligation to reside in a speci?c place to be found within the respective jurisdiction; d) The obligation to remain con?ned to his own home, room or health center, as the case may be; e) Preventive detention. Roselv Y?pez 1- 11111121111111J1 1111111111 Aulorizada T111. 111.1 1389/1111- 1112(1y11 aiiusinossgroup. n01 F11n111: _4 . 8?33?? . 1 Case 1: 18- c-r- 00693- RMB Document 128- 2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 5 of 14 I .I The above assumes that, although provisional detention against Mr. RAMSES OWENS SAAD was replaced, the court has nonetheless deemed it necessary to apply three of the ?ve subsections of Article 2127 of the Judicial Code given the gravity of the facts under investigation. FIFTH: Upon a study of the arguments and the documentation that the petitioner has attached to her petition, we should mention that, when assessing the origin of a permission to exit the country or the provisional lifting of same, the Supreme Court of Justice has expressed the need to submit evidentiary elements that con?rm certain circumstances that justify such lifting and the period of time that is requested for: From the point of view of the Penal Court of the Court, and in sharing the reasoning done due to public outrage, we deem that at this time exiting the country for the sentenced person MIGUEL GARCIA DE PAREDES cannot be authorized, by virtue of which the documents mentioned by the law ?rm of RODRJGUEZ, GONZALEZ MURILLO to support their petition are ineffective for justifying the absence from the country of Mr. GARCJA DE PAREDES for a period of 15 days, since no elements con?rming the diagnosis of the illness mentioned have been submitted. In addition to this, neither do they show that the defendant must imperatively and unavoidably travel at this time, before the present case is de?nitively decided, which case is even in its ?nal stage and, admissibility of the appeal to the Supreme Court having been exercised, there remains only that the oral hearing be carried out and that a decision be handed down. On other hand, although it is true that the defendant DE behavior has been good during the proceeding and he has complied with the summons and required notices in a satisfactory manner, it is also counterproductive to grant a request for permission in face of the lack of suf?cient elements that con?rm the immediacy of the trip; such that, on this occasion we do not agree to grantng of the petition.? (Penal Court of the Supreme Court of Justice, SALAS CESPEDES - Panama, second August two thousand ten (2010). Subsequent to the study of the facts presented by the petitioner and the elements attached to her petition, the court should point out that, although Mr. RAMSES GENARO OWENS SAAD has complied with the obligations inherent to the precautionary measures imposed on him, it is a fact that the documentation submitted does not con?rm an imperative need for his appearance, nor does it justify his absence for a period of 14 days, all the more so since the elements attached to the writ under assessment describe an oral act that is not obligatory, whose latest probable date is the day of 29th October of the present year, and that if he participated in same he would only have a period of 15 minutes to be heard. In addition to this, in no element assembled to support the petition can we see that he has been formally summoned. Yepez ?1 111:.- 1c'111' 1'1 1111111 1Aulorizada .. 1.16111: 5 111.- 1111-1110119 2013 1111U 11111-1111Q111 a1111511111551jroup. net .31 #1131124 . Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 6 of 14 <5 :4 This being so, the Second Specialized Prosecutor?s Of?ce Against Organized Crime recommends Rm SE to the honorable court trying this case that, upon assessment of the petition put forth by MARCELA ARAUZ QUINTERO, Esq., RAMSES legal attorney, same be DENIED. Yours faithfully, ISIS DEL CARMEN SOTO Senior Prosecutor of the Second Prosecutor?s Of?ce Against Organized Crime Ah Honorem Onc/O2?l 6 (seal of the 16?" Court of the Penal Circuit of the First Judicial Circuit of Panama, Judicial Branch, Republic of Panama) (upside down date) 2019 OCT 11 9:24 AM. Received on this 11th day of October 2019 at 9:its ?le. (sgd.) Ledeyka Lipero Olmedo, Clerk of Court El su'scrito, Licdo. Fabian E. Ruiz 8., Notario Segundo del de Panama, con C?dula de ldentidad No. 8?421?59?3 Que la (5) ?rma anterior (es) ha s-do reconocida (S) . como su a los por consugwente, dicha (S) (S) firrna did i In; I Panama TestiQT?? w, Fabl?y?luiz?f Notario P: Segundo Rosely Yepez Huddtiluft] Pumice Autorizada Res Flo. 121MB 5 tipnafrude 2013 pieztigr usinussgruupmt Fume. 7? W?wud Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page APOSTILLE 9 . 3 Convention de La Haye du 5 octobre 1961 g; 1. ears: PANAMA 111/ 5 1:3 presente documento Publicof gs .: de f: .-.- A gig; ff, Ly est? revestido del seiEo/timbre dell-Mu X8 - c, CERTIFICADO - 1 21 OCT 2019 f: 5 PANAMA 6' Esta Amarincidnno 13;;3 7. per DIRECCION ADMINISTRATIVA 8. Bajo elnumero; 1- [If deld?w i-hto KAT) Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 8 of 14 Exhibit Spanish Version Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page ?Ad-?diwg?wrr I: Mom/e mums Hm?. . Repriblica dc Pamumi Fiscall'a Segmula Especializada Contra la Delincuencia Organizrula Via Espa?a, Edi?cio Avesa, Primer Piso, Tel?fono 505-3266. CONTESTACION DE TRASLADO Impetrado por la representacion legal de LEVANAMIENTO PROVISIONAL RAMSES OWENS, dentro dc] [)roceso DE IMPEDIMENTO DE SALIDA- que se le sigue por la presunta comisi?n del delito contra el Orden Economico (modalidad Blanqueo dc capitales), identificado con el registro 02-16. Panama, 1 1 de octubrc de 2019. HONORABLE JUEZ DECIMO OCTAVA DE CIRCUITO PENAL DEL PRIMEE CIRCUITO JUDICIAL DE PANAMA: Quien suscribe, ISIS DEL CARMEN SOTO, actuando en mi condicion de Fiscal Superior Especial de la Fiscalia Segunda Especializada Contra la Delincuencia Organizada Ad~ Honorem, concurro ante usted con mi acostumbrado respeto en tiempo oportuno. con el proposito cle contestar la DE LEVANTAMIENTO PROVISIONAL DE IMPEDIMENTO DE SALIDA DEL propuesto por Ia Iicenciada MARCELA ARAUZ QUINTERO, apoderada de RAMSES OWENS, dentro clel proceso descrito en el margen superior derecho. l. Fundamentos del solicitante. En Io medular de su escrito, la Iicenciada MARCELA ARAUZ indico, que mediante Sentencia calendada diez (10) de enero del dos mil diecinueve (2019), el Pleno de la Corte Suprema de Justicia resolvio Accion de Habeas Corpus en favor de RAMSES OWENS SAAD, remplazando las medidas cautclares que contra el pesaban por las descritas en el articulo 2127 deI Cddigo Judicial, en concreto la prohibicion de salida?del pais, la obligacion de presentarse ante 1a autoridad publica tres veces por semana 121' opligacimi de residir en determinado lugar, las cuales ha cumpIido su apoderado, quien ademas tiene arraigo en la republica dc Panama, con tres hijos se encuentra cursando la carrera de contador publico en la Universidad Especializada de] Contador Publico. Agrego Ia litigants, que su patrocinado legal forma parte de un proceso seguido en el Estado de New York, Estados Unidos de Am?rica, identi?cado como el caso 1 Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 10 of 14 STATES VS OWENS. ET AL 18 Cr. 693 RMB), proceso en el cual ?mse dicta (sic) requerimienm par park.) del Jae: Barman. de comparecencia del se?or Ramses Owens Salad. para el 29 de ocmbre de 2019. Adiciono ademas que su patrocinado: asimr a lafecha de audiencia para el 29 de ()crubre de 2019 en las Esraa?os Unidos comparecerjunta can sa represemcmle legal a fin de exponer .s'us argumenlos realizar su de emu 'ectiva den/r0 del proceso Nevada par la Corie Suprei-na dc Jusricia c?ie For 10 anterior se?alo que el se?or OWENS SAAD saldria de Panama e1 Jueves 24 de Octubre de 2019 a las 7:40 con destino a New York, Estados Unidos a trav?s de] \ruelo CM0809 de la compa?ia Copa Airlines, retomando a1 pais el dia mi?rcoles 6 de noviembre del presente a?o. II. Documentos aportados con la solicitud. Una vez expuestas sus argumentaciones. la licenciada Marcela Aranz adjunto a su eserito. los siguientes documentos: 1. Copia del Itinerario cle vuelo, donde consta los vuelos de Panama hacia Estados Unidos. posterior de Estados Unidos hacia Panama. 2. Copia de la reserva del Ramada By Wayne Fair?eld Area, desde el 24 de Octubre de 2019 hasta el Mi?rcoles 6 de Noviembre de 2019 a nombre del senor Ramses Genaro Owens. 3. Memorandum fechado a1 29 de Agosto de 2019 donde se describe e1 caso llevado entre "Estados Unidos vs Ramses Owens"; con su debida traduocion a] espa?ol. 4. Carta emitida por el Juez Richard M. Beman, donde se ?ja como fecha de audiencia e1 29 de Octubre de 2019 a las 10:00 am; con su debida traducci?n a1 espa?ol. Consideraciones del Despacho. Examinada 1a peticion propuesta, a continuaci?n este Despaeho Superior pasai'a a plantear Lina serie de razonamientos que nos llevan a oponernos a su admision: PRIMERO: La presente causa penal, dio inicio e1 einoo (5) de abril del ano dos mil diecise'is (2016), a raiz de las masivas publieaciones periodisticas, tanto nacionales como internacionales, origen fue la investigaci?n realizada por el Consorcio Internacional de Periodistas de Investigacion (ICU por sus siglas en ingl?s), mal denominada ?Panama Papers?. Investigaoion generada a partir de 11.5 millones de documentos oontenidos en 2,6 terabytes obtenidos por el periodico aleman SuddeutscheZeitung, que revelaron detailes dc transacciones ?nanciei'as desconocidas algunas supuestamente para blanquear dinei'o 2 Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 11 of 14 producto de actividades ilicitas, a trav?s de 214 mil 488 entidades ligadas a personas en mas de 200 paises, en diil?erentes jurisdicciones ?nancieras donde la 'l'irma en referencia tiene presencia, a lo largo de mais de cuarenta (40) a?os de actividad. SEGUNDO: Como parte de la actividad investigative, se logro incorporar diverso material probatorio como informaci?n ?nanciera proporcionada por los bancos TOWERBANK ANDBANK, que acredita las transferencias realizadas por intermedio de enticlades juridicas controladas por el Grupo Mossack Fonseca. come 10 son GILLARD MANAGEMENT INC 3/ MOSSFON ESCROW SRL., tal cual se puede observar en las constancias de transferencias de fojas 36.076, 36.117, 36.084 (Tomo 69) fojas 48.671. 48.676, 48.700, 48.704, 48.706 (Tomo 94), todo lo cual hace parte de la trazabilidad estudiada. Se acopio igualmente a la investigacion 1a nota No. recibida e1 14 ?16 noviembre del 2018, mediante la cual la Fiscalia superior de Asuntos Internacionale's adjunto la Nota do 12 de noviembre de 2018, procedente de la Direccion General de Asuntos Juridicos Tratados del Ministerio de Relaciones Exterior-es. la cual a su vez adjunto 121 Note Verbal del 17 de octubre de 2018, 1a cual contiene las diligencias practicadas por las autoridades alemanas en atencion a nuestra solicitud cle Asistencia Judicial No.7-16 de 2 de junio de 2016, cuya traducci?n a1 espa?ol i?ue recibida en esta agencia de Instruccion e1 29 de noviembre de 2018, adjunta a1 o?cio TERCERO: Producto de la cooperacion internacional con la Republica Federal de Alemania, mediante resoluci?n No. 5 del seis (6) de diciembre de dos mil clieciocho (2018), formulo cargos a veintis?is (26) personas por la presunta comision de delitos Contra e1 Orden Economico en su modalidad de Blanqueo de Capitales, en relacic?m a hechos que involucran a la empresa SIEMENS entre los cuales ?guro e1 licenciado RAMSES OWENS, siendo esta una investigacion por la comision de un delito grave de naturaleza complej a. CUARTO: Asi las cosas, conviene, referirnos a los esquemas procesales que comprenden las medidas cautelares, todo e110, con el afan de observar donde se situa la medida de restriccion de la personalidad del aplicada a] se?or RAMSES GENARO OWENS SAAD. puesto que en defense te?cnica solicita el levantamiento provisional de la medida cautelar que pesa en su contra. Relacionado a ello. nuestro C6digo Judicial, en su articulo 2127, nos enumera las medidas cautelares personales, siendo estas: Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 12 of 14 a) La prohibicion a] imputado de abandonar e1 territorio de la Republica de Panama sin autorizacion judicial. El deber de presentarse periodicamente ante una autoridad pt?tblica; c) La obligacion de residir en un determinado lugar comprendido dentro de la jurisdiccion correspondiente; cl) La obligaci?n de mantenerse recluido en su propia casa, habitacion establecimicnto de salud, segt?m sea el caso: 6) La detencion preventiva. Lo anterior supone que si bien se reemplazo 1a detencion provisional contra el senor RAMSES OWENS SAAD, sin embargo e1 tribunal estimo necesaria 1a aplicacion tres de los cinco literales del articulo 2127 del Codigo Judicial dada la gravedad de los hechos investi gados. QUINTO: Una vez observados los argumentos la documentacion que la solicitante adjunta a su iniciativa, cabe hacer menoi?n que a] analizar la procedencia de un permiso de salida del pats levantamiento provisional del mismo, la Corte Suprema de .lusticia ha expresaclo la necesidad de presentar elementos probatorios que acrediten ciertas circunstancias que justi?quen dicho levantamiento el periodo que se peticiona: "Desde el punto de vista de la Sala Penal de la Corte, compartiendo los planteamientos realizados por la vindicta pdblica, consideramos, que no puede autorizarse en estos momentos la salida del pais al sentenciado MIGUEL DE en virtud que, los documentos que menciona la firma forense GONZALEZ para sustentar su peticion, carecen de eficacia para justificar la ausencia del pais del se?or DE PAREDES por un lapso de 15 dies, al no aportar elementos que acrediten el diagnostico de la enfermedad mencionada. Aunado a esto, tampoco demuestran que el procesado deba viajar, de manera imperiosa ineludible en este momento, antes de que sea decidida la presente causa de manera definitiva; 53g que inclusive, est? en su fase final luego cle agotada la admisibilidad del recurso de casacion, solo resta que se lleve a cabo la audiencia oral seguidamente se emita el fallo de fondo. Por otro lado, si bien es cierto, el sentenciado DE 13 PAREDES ha mantenido buena conducta durante el proceso han cumplido satisfactoriamente las citaciones notificationes requeridas, tambi?n resulta contraproducente acceder a la solicitud de permiso, frente a la carencia de elementos suficientes que acrediten la impostergabilidad del viaje; de manera que, en esta oportunidad no se accede a lo pedido.? (Sala Penal de la Corte Suprema de Justicia, SALAS CESPEDES - Panama, dos (2) de agosto de dos mil diez (2010). 4?4 Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 13 of 14 EXTO: Ulterior al examen de los hechos expuestos por la solicitante los elementos JSEGIJEOPEQQ adjuntos en su iniciativa el despacho debe se?alar que si bien el sefim RAMSES GENARO I OWENS SAAD ha cumplido con las obligaciones inherentes a las medidas cautelaies impuestas e11 su contra, tenemos que la documentacion aportada no pennite apreciar la imperiosa necesidad de su comparecen?cia, 11ijusti?car su ausencia por L111 periodo de 14 dias. maxime cuando los elementps adj un?ios al escrito bajo examen describen un aoto oral sin Obligatoriedad: cuya L'lltima fecha probable es el propio dia 29 de octubre del a?o que trascmre, que de participar en el mismo Solo tendria 1111 especio de 15 minutos para ser escuchado. Aunado 21 e110. en ming?n elemento acopiado como sustento de la solicitud se observa que haya sido citado formalmente. Solicitud Fiscal. Siendo asi, la Fiscalia Segunda Especializada Contra la Delincuencia Organizada recomienda a1 honorable tribunal de la causa, que a] momento de valorar la solicitud propuesta por la licenciada MARCELA ARAUZ QUINTERO, apoderada de RAMSES OWENS, sea NEGADA. De usted, atentamente, ISIS DEL CARMEN SOTO Fiscal Superior de la Fiscalia Segunda Contra la Delincuencia Organizada Ad?Honorem. 011c/02-16 11% ?1151 that) TII-201.1 a 113C7 1..--.. 0g rego 2193118 antecedentm/i w?rgng/QQ 11?1?- ,5.)ng 010.00 198.1074 an I- an NACIONAL 'k de PANAMA 1 9 In g, 2 21 Case Document 128-2 Filed 10/23/19 Page 14 of 14 V0. Licdn Fahrim E. Hui: S. 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