U.S. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation Washington, D.C. 20535 December 2, 2019 KATELYN POLANTZ, CNN C/O CHARLES D. TOBIN BALLARD SPAHR LLP 12TH FLOOR 1909 K STREET, NW WASHINGTON, DC 20006 FOIPA Request No.: 1433273-000 Civil Action No.: 19-cv-01626 Subject: All 302’s of individuals who were questioned/interviewed by FBI Agents working for the Office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller Dear CNN: The enclosed documents were reviewed under the Freedom of Information/Privacy Acts (FOIPA), Title 5, United States Code, Section 552/552a. Below you will find checked boxes under applicable statutes for the exemptions asserted to protect information exempt from disclosure. The appropriate exemptions are noted on the processed pages next to redacted information. In addition, a deleted page information sheet was inserted to indicate where pages were withheld entirely pursuant to applicable exemptions. An Explanation of Exemptions is enclosed to further explain justification for withheld information. Section 552 (b)(1) (b)(2) (b)(3) Federal Rules of -------Criminal Procedure 6(e) -------50 U.S.C § 3024(i) -------- r P' P' (b)(4) (b)(5) P' P' P' P' P' (b)(7)(C) r (b)(7)(F) r r (b)(7)(A) (b)(7)(B) (b)(7)(D) (b)(7)(E) (b)(8) (b)(9) (b)(6) Section 552a (d)(5) r r r r r r r r r (j)(2) (k)(1) (k)(2) (k)(3) (k)(4) (k)(5) (k)(6) (k)(7) 506 pages were reviewed and 231 pages are being released. P' Deletions were made by the Department of Justice/Office of Information Policy . To appeal those denials, please write directly to that agency. Please see the paragraphs below for relevant information specific to your request and the enclosed FBI FOIPA Addendum for standard responses applicable to all requests. r Document(s) were located which originated with, or contained information concerning, other Government Agency (ies) [OGA]. r r This information has been referred to the OGA(s) for review and direct response to you. We are consulting with another agency. The FBI will correspond with you regarding this information when the consultation is completed. Please refer to the enclosed FBI FOIPA Addendum for additional standard responses applicable to your request. “Part 1” of the Addendum includes standard responses that apply to all requests. “Part 2” includes additional standard responses that apply to all requests for records on individuals. “Part 3” includes general information about FBI records that you may find useful. Also enclosed is our Explanation of Exemptions. Although your request is in litigation, we are required by law to provide you the following information: You may file an appeal by writing to the Director, Office of Information Policy (OIP), United States Department of Justice, Sixth Floor, 441 G Street, NW, Washington, D.C. 20001, or you may submit an appeal through OIP's FOIA online portal by creating an account on the following website: https://www.foiaonline.gov/foiaonline/action/public/home. Your appeal must be postmarked or electronically transmitted within ninety (90) days from the date of this letter in order to be considered timely. If you submit your appeal by mail, both the letter and the envelope should be clearly marked “Freedom of Information Act Appeal.” Please cite the FOIPA Request Number assigned to your request so it may be easily identified. You may seek dispute resolution services by contacting the Office of Government Information Services (OGIS). The contact information for OGIS is as follows: Office of Government Information Services, National Archives and Records Administration, 8601 Adelphi Road-OGIS, College Park, Maryland 20740-6001, e-mail at ogis@nara.gov; telephone at 202-741-5770; toll free at 1-877-684-6448; or facsimile at 202-741-5769. Alternatively, you may contact the FBI’s FOIA Public Liaison by emailing foipaquestions@fbi.gov. If you submit your dispute resolution correspondence by email, the subject heading should clearly state “Dispute Resolution Services.” Please also cite the FOIPA Request Number assigned to your request so it may be easily identified. Please direct any further inquiries about this case to the Attorney representing the Government in this matter. Please use the FOIPA Request Number and/or Civil Action Number in all correspondence or inquiries concerning your request. See additional information which follows. Sincerely, David M. Hardy Section Chief Record/Information Dissemination Section Information Management Division Enclosures Additional Information: In response to your Freedom of Information/Privacy Acts (FOIPA) request, enclosed is a processed copy of Bates Stamped documents, FBI (19-cv-1278)-504 through FBI (19-cv-1278)-1009. The enclosed documents represent the second interim release of information responsive to your request. To minimize costs to both you and the FBI, duplicate copies of the same document were not processed. Additionally, included in this release are 50 pages of previously processed material. This material is being provided to you per a court order. This material consists of Flynn 302’s Bates 17-cv-397-1 through 17-cv-397-10, Comey 302’s FBI 18-cv-00932-1 through FBI 18-cv-00932-6, and Ohr 302’s FBI(18cv2107)-1 through FBI(18cv2107)-34. FBI FOIPA Addendum As referenced in our letter responding to your Freedom of Information/Privacy Acts (FOIPA) request, the FBI FOIPA Addendum includes information applicable to your request. Part 1 of the Addendum includes standard responses that apply to all requests. Part 2 includes additional standard responses that apply to all requests for records on individuals. Part 3 includes general information about FBI records. For questions regarding Parts 1, 2, or 3, visit the www.fbi.gov/foia website under “Contact Us.” Previously mentioned appeal and dispute resolution services are also available at the web address. Part 1: The standard responses below apply to all requests: (i) 5 U.S.C. § 552(c). Congress excluded three categories of law enforcement and national security records from the requirements of the FOIA [5 U.S.C. § 552(c) (2006 & Supp. IV (2010)]. FBI responses are limited to those records subject to the requirements of the FOIA. Additional information about the FBI and the FOIPA can be found on the www.fbi.gov/foia website. (ii) National Security/Intelligence Records. The FBI can neither confirm nor deny the existence of national security and foreign intelligence records pursuant to FOIA exemptions (b)(1), (b)(3), and PA exemption (j)(2) as applicable to requests for records about individuals [5 U.S.C. §§ 552/552a (b)(1), (b)(3), and (j)(2); 50 U.S.C § 3024(i)(1)]. The mere acknowledgment of the existence or nonexistence of such records is itself a classified fact protected by FOIA exemption (b)(1) and/or would reveal intelligence sources, methods, or activities protected by exemption (b)(3) [50 USC § 3024(i)(1)]. This is a standard response and should not be read to indicate that national security or foreign intelligence records do or do not exist. Part 2: The standard responses below apply to all requests for records on individuals: (i) Requests for Records about any Individual—Watch Lists. The FBI can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any individual’s name on a watch list pursuant to FOIA exemption (b)(7)(E) and PA exemption (j)(2) [5 U.S.C. §§ 552/552a (b)(7)(E), (j)(2)]. This is a standard response and should not be read to indicate that watch list records do or do not exist. (ii) Requests for Records for Incarcerated Individuals. The FBI can neither confirm nor deny the existence of records which could reasonably be expected to endanger the life or physical safety of any incarcerated individual pursuant to FOIA exemptions (b)(7)(E), (b)(7)(F), and PA exemption (j)(2) [5 U.S.C. §§ 552/552a (b)(7)(E), (b)(7)(F), and (j)(2)]. This is a standard response and should not be read to indicate that such records do or do not exist. Part 3: General Information: (i) Record Searches. The Record/Information Dissemination Section (RIDS) searches for reasonably described records by searching those systems or locations where responsive records would reasonably be found. A reasonable search normally consists of a search for main files in the Central Records System (CRS), an extensive system of records consisting of applicant, investigative, intelligence, personnel, administrative, and general files compiled and maintained by the FBI in the course of fulfilling law enforcement, intelligence, and administrative functions. The CRS spans the entire FBI organization and encompasses the records of FBI Headquarters (FBIHQ), FBI Field Offices, and FBI Legal Attaché Offices (Legats) worldwide and includes Electronic Surveillance (ELSUR) records. For additional information about our record searches visit www.fbi.gov/services/information-management/foipa/requesting-fbi-records. (ii) FBI Records. Founded in 1908, the FBI carries out a dual law enforcement and national security mission. As part of this dual mission, the FBI creates and maintains records on various subjects; however, the FBI does not maintain records on every person, subject, or entity. (iii) Requests for Criminal History Records or Rap Sheets. The Criminal Justice Information Services (CJIS) Division provides Identity History Summary Checks – often referred to as a criminal history record or rap sheets. These criminal history records are not the same as material in an investigative “FBI file.” An Identity History Summary Check is a listing of information taken from fingerprint cards and documents submitted to the FBI in connection with arrests, federal employment, naturalization, or military service. For a fee, individuals can request a copy of their Identity History Summary Check. Forms and directions can be accessed at www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/identity-history-summary-checks. Additionally, requests can be submitted electronically at www.edo.cjis.gov. For additional information, please contact CJIS directly at (304) 625-5590. (iv) The National Name Check Program (NNCP). The mission of NNCP is to analyze and report information in response to name check requests received from federal agencies, for the purpose of protecting the United States from foreign and domestic threats to national security. Please be advised that this is a service provided to other federal agencies. Private citizens cannot request a name check. EXPLANATION OF EXEMPTIONS SUBSECTIONS OF TITLE 5, UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 552 (b)(1) (A) specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and (B) are in fact properly classified to such Executive order; (b)(2) related solely to the internal personnel rules and practices of an agency; (b)(3) specifically exempted from disclosure by statute (other than section 552b of this title), provided that such statute (A) requires that the matters be withheld from the public in such a manner as to leave no discretion on issue, or (B) establishes particular criteria for withholding or refers to particular types of matters to be withheld; (b)(4) trade secrets and commercial or financial information obtained from a person and privileged or confidential; (b)(5) inter-agency or intra-agency memorandums or letters which would not be available by law to a party other than an agency in litigation with the agency; (b)(6) personnel and medical files and similar files the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy; (b)(7) records or information compiled for law enforcement purposes, but only to the extent that the production of such law enforcement records or information ( A ) could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings, ( B ) would deprive a person of a right to a fair trial or an impartial adjudication, ( C ) could reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy, ( D ) could reasonably be expected to disclose the identity of confidential source, including a State, local, or foreign agency or authority or any private institution which furnished information on a confidential basis, and, in the case of record or information compiled by a criminal law enforcement authority in the course of a criminal investigation, or by an agency conducting a lawful national security intelligence investigation, information furnished by a confidential source, ( E ) would disclose techniques and procedures for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions, or would disclose guidelines for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions if such disclosure could reasonably be expected to risk circumvention of the law, or ( F ) could reasonably be expected to endanger the life or physical safety of any individual; (b)(8) contained in or related to examination, operating, or condition reports prepared by, on behalf of, or for the use of an agency responsible for the regulation or supervision of financial institutions; or (b)(9) geological and geophysical information and data, including maps, concerning wells. SUBSECTIONS OF TITLE 5, UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 552a (d)(5) information compiled in reasonable anticipation of a civil action proceeding; (j)(2) material reporting investigative efforts pertaining to the enforcement of criminal law including efforts to prevent, control, or reduce crime or apprehend criminals; (k)(1) information which is currently and properly classified pursuant to an Executive order in the interest of the national defense or foreign policy, for example, information involving intelligence sources or methods; (k)(2) investigatory material compiled for law enforcement purposes, other than criminal, which did not result in loss of a right, benefit or privilege under Federal programs, or which would identify a source who furnished information pursuant to a promise that his/her identity would be held in confidence; (k)(3) material maintained in connection with providing protective services to the President of the United States or any other individual pursuant to the authority of Title 18, United States Code, Section 3056; (k)(4) required by statute to be maintained and used solely as statistical records; (k)(5) investigatory material compiled solely for the purpose of determining suitability, eligibility, or qualifications for Federal civilian employment or for access to classified information, the disclosure of which would reveal the identity of the person who furnished information pursuant to a promise that his/her identity would be held in confidence; (k)(6) testing or examination material used to determine individual qualifications for appointment or promotion in Federal Government service the release of which would compromise the testing or examination process; (k)(7) material used to determine potential for promotion in the armed services, the disclosure of which would reveal the identity of the person who furnished the material pursuant to a promise that his/her identity would be held in confidence. FBI/DOJ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION FOI/PA DELETED PAGE INFORMATION SHEET Civil Action No.: 19-cv-1278 / 19-cv-1626 FOIA: 1432673-000 / 1433273-000 PDF Title: 19-cv-1278 Release 2 Bates 504-1009 Total Withheld Pages = 275 Bates Page Reference Reason for Withholding (i.e., exemptions with coded rationale, duplicate, sealed by order of court, etc.) FBI(19cv1278) 555 FBI(19cv1278) 556  FBI(19cv1278) 557  FBI(19cv1278) 558  b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP  b5 per DOJ/OIP  b5 per DOJ/OIP  FBI(19cv1278) 559  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 562  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 563  b5 per DOJ/OIP; b6; b7C FBI(19cv1278) 591  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 594  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 598  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 600  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 603  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 605  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 607  b5 per DOJ/OIP; b6; b7C FBI(19cv1278) 608  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 609  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 610  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 611  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 612  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 614  b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278) 615  b5 per DOJ/OIP; 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b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b6; b7C; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 733  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 735  b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 736  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx X X X Deleted Page(s) X No Duplication Fee X For this Page X xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Bates Page Reference Reason for Withholding (i.e., exemptions with coded rationale, duplicate, sealed by order of court, etc.) FBI(19cv1278) 737  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b6; b7C; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 738  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 739  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 740  b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 741  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 742  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 743  b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 744  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b6; b7C; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 745  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 746  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 747  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 748  b1; b3; b5 per DOJ/OIP; b7E FBI(19cv1278) 749  b3; 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Present for the interview were Supervisory Special Agent (SSA)! ! Special Agent (SA) .___________ _. Senior Assistant Special Counsel (SASC) Andrew Goldstein, and SASC Greg Andres. After being advised of the official identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the interview, Gates provided the following information: After the 2016 Presidential election, Gates spent November 10 - November at Trump Tower. On November 13, Gates became the Deputy Chairman for the Inauguration and went to Washington, D.C. to work on the presidential inauguration. 13, b6 b7C 2016 In the transition period, Gates had less contact with Flynn than he had during the campaign period. Gates estimated he had a handful of calls with Flynn and that they discussed potential cabinet officials, special assistant positions, how many people Flynn wanted to invite to the inauguration, and other logistics matters. Gates had a little more contact with KT McFarland than he did with Flynn. He had gotten to know her on the campaign and thought they had good chemistry. Gates thought of McFarland as one of a few people capable of breaking down things so that [then-candidate] Donald Trump could understand. McFarland sat through a lot of personnel decisions and interviews. b6 b7A b7B Per b7C Investigationon File # by I 04/18/2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States Date drafted ( In DOJ/OIP Person) O5 / 15 / 2 0 18 ._I----------------------------- b6 b7C b7A b7E This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FB1(19cv1278)-504 b7A b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of (U) Interview of Rick Gates ,On _0_4_/_l_B_/_2_0_1_8_, Page 2 of b6 5 l b7A b7B Per b7C Gates Flynn, did not recall and Kislyak. Gates was not aware hearing of about a December a November 13, 2016 20, meeting 2016 meeting between involving Kushner and Kushner, Gorkov. b~Al b7B Per b7C b6 talk about Russia with Flynn. with Kislyak until after the Gates fact. did not hear about DOJ/OIP l b7A b7B Per b7C Gates did not communications DOJ/OIP DOJ/OIP Flynn's Gates was surprised when Flynn was fired. He thought Flynn had a good relationship with Trump and that Trump had not wanted to fire Flynn but felt like he had no choice. The National Security Advisor cannot lie to the Vice President and not have anything happen to him because of it. Gates said Pence went to Trump about firing Flynn and he thought it was one of the few times Pence pushed Trump hard like that. b6 b7A b7B Per b7C DOJ/OIP b7A b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of (U) Interview of Rick Gates ,On _0_4_/_l_B_/_2_0_1_8_, Page 3 of 5 b6 b7A b7B Per b7C Gates heard that after Sessions recused himself from the Russia investigation, Trump was "on the warpath" and said he would fire Sessions, but that Trump did not follow through. Gates heard was that the recusal had been done by Don McGahn and Sessions and Trump had not been consulted. Gates heard about Trump's reaction from! ! Rick Dearborn, andl Gates said some people thought Trump would have been okay with the recusal if he had been notified in advance. l Prior to Sessions' recusal, recusal issues. After the their opinion that had Rudy recused himself. Gates knew General, but turned it down DOJ/OIP b6 b7C Gates had not had conversations with anyone about recusal, he recalled conversations where people offered Giuliani been Attorney General, he would not have Giuliani had been the first choice for Attorney because he wanted to be Secretary of State instead. Gates had no firsthand awareness of Trump's views on James Corney. Neither Gates ________ !had conversations with Trump about Corney's termination. Gates was surprised Trump actually fired Corney, since Gates did not think Trump followe0 . . . . b6 through with firing people. Gates thought Trump was frustrated with a lot ofb?A agencies, not just the Department of Justice and FBI.I ltold Gates he hEb?B Per DOJ/OIP froml land Priebus that Trump said things needed to be fair and equal andb7C it was not fair no one was looking at Hillary Clinton. In general, legitimacy Trump's view of his win. of the Russia investigation was that it attacked the b6 b7A b7B b7C Discussions of DOJ/OIP Pardons: The possibility of pardons came up a couple of months after Gates' indictment. There were stories about the FBI and DOJ being corrupt said he was having conversations with [then Counsel to the President] as was Manafort's lawyer. and Manafort John Dowd, FBI{19cv1278)-506 b7A b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of (U) Interview of Rick Gates ,On _0_4_/_1_8_/_2_0_1_8_, Page 4 of 5 In October or November of 2017, Gates and Manafort had a conversation in which Manafort indicated they would "get through it," that the charges were trumped up and "BS" and they would figure it out and there was more to come. Gates had the sense Manafort was saying to Gates not to plead. Manafort told Gates the Nunes report would come out soon and there would be some bombshells in it. Manafort said he talked to Dowd and they had talked about starting a legal defense fund. Manafort did not say whether Dowd brought up Nunes. In January 2018, CNN leaked that a plea agreement had been reached, and Manafort told Gates people were worried it was true. Gates called Manafort and told him it was not true. Manafort told Gates that he (Manafort) had called Dowd and also told Dowd it was not true that Gates had reached a plea agreement. Manafort said something like, "I talked to Dowd. I've covered you at the White House" and added that a legal defense fund was coming and they were going to "take care of us." Manafort told Gates there were two funds out there. The first was called "Patriot Defense Funds" and it covered White House staff. The other fund would cover anyone outside of the White House and Manafort and Gates would be "#1 and #2 on that list." Manafort told Gates it was stupid to plead and that he would get a better deal down the road. Manafort said he had been in touch with Dowd and repeated they should "sit tight" and "we'll be taken care of." Manafort never explicitly mentioned pardons. Gates asked Manafort outright if anyone mentioned pardons and Manafort said no one used that word. In February 2018, the day before Gates entered his plea, Manafort called Gates and and his tone was that Gates should "stick to your guns, we'll get through this." Manafort told Gates that he had been on the phone with Dowd and his attorney when Trump apparently walked into the room with Dowd and said to Manafort words to the effect of "stay strong." Manafort told Gates that Kushner had sent him emails of support and that he could show the emails to Gates if they were together. Gates had the sense the emails Manafort mentioned were recent. Gates had no basis to trust Manafort and thought the conversation was designed to convince Gates not to plead guilty. By then, Gates had already made his decision. Gates added that Manafort talked a big game, but Gates had no confidence what he said was true. Gates thought ______ !listened to the telephone call between Manafort and Gates. Gates did not tell Manafort others listened to the call. b6 b7C The day of Gates' plea, Manafort called again and went through a last minute appeal that Gates not plea. Manafort mentioned the legal defense fund in that call as well. That was the last time Gates spoke to Manafort, but they have communicated by text; Manafort sent Gates a text message congratulating him for getting rid of his GPS monitor at one point. In one of the calls with Manafort, Manafort told Gates that Trump was "watching their case." Gates also noted that the media asked Trump about Gates at one point and Trump had no response. Gates thought that was surprising and that Trump would have gone after him. FBI(l9cv127B)-507 b7A b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of (U) Gates was not had toldl from Manafort _________ the source. Interview sure that lhad of Rick Gates ,On _0_4_/_l_B_/_2_0_1_8_, Page 5 of source of the reporting on his plea arrangements. Gates labout it. Manafort did not know; Gates got no indication Manafort knew Gates planned to plead when he did. Gates knew a friend at CNN, butl ldid not have enough detail to be 5 the b6 b7C Jm,n ~ -a1J1y -n:, LJ"CU.,,U2)'1A-v tL i1 CTv\_· V\(D yt<:_ o-)4 ----------------- -F0-:1V\. \I\ K \µ W t - u~ ~ ~-l--R ~ C\.\L<';. . c~I- '¥0- (1, \Yt-OtNL clA,cn ~ ~?\A a_s £ \ ~ 11-LV'I ~ t , hoV\/ t , Bfl G CLl -·1-_Zl..V1 v mivYl ~C:LM_~ I il '§1 ~ 1\c_S · KI H c_-f vu--l~ - (7\._ ~c._~n" ----~CtN~cl &-+- th Y'O K~ 1,. Cl\_ - ha.M.___c;\f:vJ ~--- , G0-ll u. ni.b K- U'y\n cr. ---~~C_OJY\l\\?__ Ov__,_t~,)-'J.-_---1%'?tJ ~'-i~ 0l c..- oYt-t ----~- ~0 gpt--- JD ~ VLbV\r DY'- o} pe,w pr l +h_?l_+ lru\lvL'f- ~J le+- ~ p:01-,m ke.,,I elf vi ~ L DHs / , n~ u[)'.\vu5 · eyv-<--.---- ) 1)?\'.'0 %\A- Lu~.CUA. 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Senior Counselor to the Special Counsel James L. Quarles, and Senior Assistant Special Counsel (SASC) Andrew D. Goldstein. Also present from the Special Counsel's Office were SASC Jeannie S. Rhee and Assistant Special Counsel L. Rush Atkinson. The interview was conducted under the same proffer agreement as previous interviews. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent, Cohen provided the following information: b6 b7C The concept of the "party line" and staying "on message" existed within the Trump Organization during the campaign. During the campaign, when it was reported that [then-Candidate] Donald Trump had ties to Russia, the party line was that Trump had no business in Russia. Trump created the message when he stated had no business in Russia and no relationships in Russia. Trump created that party line when he said he had nothing to do with Russia and had no deals. It became the talking point for others to follow. Investigationon File # I 11/20/2018 at bylL______________ Washington, District Of Columbia, United States Date drafted bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP (Phone) 11 / 2 5 / 2 0 18 J-------------------------------- b6 b7C b7E This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBl(l9cv 1278)-522 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) (U) Interview of Michael Cohen (telephonic Continuation ofFD-302 of / l l · 2 O · 2 Ol S ) 2 of , On _l_l_/_2_0_/_2_0_1_8_, Page ------------------------ 7 bS per _________________ ._ _____ ~!and In January 2017, ___.!he should stay would be fine. everything after the dossier lcohen told _____________ _,lthe .__ would end JDA was was made Trump working public,I he had never well together Congress to and Prague that DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP I things I ...... ---------------~ ____________________ inquiry been bS per soon. When Cohen first received letters from .----------------------------- ._ DOJ/OIP on message=!====================! ___. I The was the dossier. Cohen did not initial have any focus concern of Congress' about the dossier FBI{19cv 1278)-523 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) b7E (U) Interview Continuation ofFD-302 of / 11 · 2 0 · 2018 -----------------------' of Michael Cohen (telephonic o ) n _l_l_/_2_0_/_2_0_1_8_,Page 3 of allegations, !Cohen had never been to Praaue 7 bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP or b6 b7C bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C FBI( 19cv1278)-524 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) (U) Interview of Michael Cohen (telephonic Continuation ofFD-302 of / l l · 2 O · 2 Ol S ) , On _l_l_/_2_0_/_2_0_1_8_, Page ------------------------- 4 of ..--------------------------------------------~--=--. if they stayed on message, the investigation that as a part of the JDA, Cohen was protected, he "went rogue." At that time, Cohen's legal Trump Organization. had to come to an end which he would not bills were being paid 7 bS per DOJ/OIP soon, be if by the Trump Tower Moscow first came up when a couple of reporters sent questions about it to Cohen. Cohen's concern when the questions came in was that the answers mav not be consistent with the messaae.l bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C bS per DOJ/OIP Cohen said the statement that Trump never considered traveling was false and he put it in the letter to be consistent with the message. He was sensitive to the idea of Trump traveling to Russia because he wanted to say there was no connection between Trump and Russia. He was protecting Trump and did not want to contradict anything Trump said. Cohen was being loyal bS per DOJ/OIP I I I Cohen did not remove from the letter the line that said he had "limited contact with Russian officials" and he did not know who did. He thought had to be someone from the JDA team. ------------------------------------..---------it was the no pus back. ecision o e JDA o a e i ou, an it bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C FBI{ 19cv1278)-525 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) (U) Interview of Michael Cohen (telephonic Continuation ofFD-302 of / l l · 2 O · 2 Ol S ) 5 of , On _l_l_/_2_0_/_2_0_1_8_, Page ------------------------- 7 bS per Cohen contest a decision of the did tell Sekulow that he would DOJ/OIP not JDA. bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C Sekulow and Cohen spoke on the telephone extensively on August 27, 2017, the day before the Trump Tower Moscow letter was submitted to Congress. Cohen told Sekulow there was more detail on Trump Tower Moscow, and Sekulow told him to keep it short and tight and the matter would soon come to an end. Sekulow told Cohen that "his client," referring to Trump, wanted Cohen to cooperate and appreciated him. _____________________ Cohen there that weren't in the letter said there were more bS per communications with Russia and more communications with Trump than were reflected and Sekulow responded that it was not necessary to elaborate or include those details because the transaction did not take place. Sekulow said there was no need to muddy the water. Sekulow said to stay on message and to not over elaborate. Sekulow said it did not matter and Cohen should not contradict Trump and that it was time to move on. Cohen agreed, because it was what he was expected to do. .__ told Sekulow there were details out __. Cohen DOJ/OIP Cohen vaguely recalled telling Sekulow that he had a call with a woman from the Kremlin, but he did not tell him specifically the length of the conversation or the sum and substance of her questions. Sekulow's response was in line with "so what" and the deal never happened. Cohen recalled specifically speaking to Trump about the call with Peskov's office, close in time to when the call happened in early 2016. Cohen told Trump he spoke with a woman from the Kremlin who had asked specific and great questions about Trump Tower Moscow, and that he wished Trump bS per Organization had assistants that were that good and competent. described her as "someone from the Kremlin." After that call, and a subsequent call with Felix Sater, Cohen recalled he told Trump he was waiting to hear back from them. ~I-----~ DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv127B)-526 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) (U) Interview of Michael Cohen (telephonic Continuation ofFD-302 of / l l · 2 O · 2 Ol S ) 6 of , On _l_l_/_2_0_/_2_0_1_8_, Page ------------------------ 7 bS per DOJ/OIP I bS per _____________________________ Cohen attempted ......_ releasinq the to letter follow the example set by Jared Kushner by publicly ...._ .......... durinq his Conqressional testimonv,I __________________________________ commented Kushner. to Cohen Sekulow and Cohen that spoke ----------------the Trump Tower Moscow jsekulow Trump was happy on the telephone with how things on September Sekulow mentioned statement that had gone that out. had 20, gone had ___, also I DOJ/OIP b6 b7C I bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP I with 2017 Trump was pleased bS per DOJ/OIP with bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C FBI(19cv1278)-527 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) (U) Interview of Michael Cohen (telephonic Continuation ofFD-302 of / l l · 2 O · 2 Ol S ) Cohen asked discussions timing, but 7 of , On _l_l_/_2_0_/_2_0_1_8_, Page ------------------------ Sekulow about pardons were happening at the it was after the raids after the news reported White House. 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After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, Kelly provided the following information: b6 b7C bS per DOJ/OIP I Kelly Investigationon did not 08/02/2018 speak at to anyone Washington, about the District File;_#_::l===========;----------------------Date bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP article Of Columbia, United States (In Person) draftedO8/06/2018 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 b7C b7E FBI(19cv1278)-542 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of (U) Interview of White Staff John Kelly House Chief of ,On 2 of _O_B_/_0_2_/_2_0_1_8_, Page 8 bS per ._ ________________ article when it Kelly Office recalled where __.!Kelly and he did came out, a conversation they discussed with the the article. did not not tell speak to Don McGahn about anyone he had done so. President and McGahn in the I the OvalbS per DOJ/OIP I In the Oval Office meeting, the President asked if McGahn had seen and bS per read the article and told McGahn that he did not recall any discussion about firin Mueller. Kelly described the conversation as "a little tense." ._ DOJ/OIP DOJ/OIP ______________________________ _. The President may have asked McGahn to correct the record, but McGahn was insistent that it had happened the way he remembered. 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Hum Humn 003on U40 b7E - 1 of FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-10) 18 - FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 06/11/2018 Date of entry HOPE CHARLOTTE HICKS was interviewed at the Special Counsel's Office, located at 395 E Street SW Washinton DC. Hicks was accompanied by her b6 attorneys, Present for the b7C interview were Supervisory Special Agent (SSA) Special Agent (SA) _____________ _.FBI Intelligence Analyst ~!_.______......,.!James L. Quarles, Senior Counselor to the Special C~o_u_n_s_e_l_, ___A_n~drew Goldstein, Senior Assistant Special Counsel; the Special Counsel; and Elizabeth Prelogar, Hicks was advised it is a crime to lie to the investigation, which she acknowledged. After of the interviewing agents and the nature of the following information: Press Reporting Regarding June 9, 2016 Michael Dreeben, Counselor to Assistant Special Counsel. FBI in the course of an being advised of the identity the interview, Hicks provided Meeting in Trump Tower: The morning of Thursday, June 22, 2017, Hicks joined a meeting between President Donald Trump, Jared Kushner, and Ivanka Trump (hereinafter Ivanka) in the White House Residence. bS per DOJ/OIP Kushner had a manila folder with documents with him and said to the President that they had found one thing that the President should know about, but it was not a big deal. Kushner said he, Donald Trump, Jr (hereinafter Junior) and Paul Manafort had attended a meeting during the campaign and started to open the folder when the President stopped him and said he did not want to know about it - I Hicks speculated Kushner's referenced meeting Junior, folder had emails in Kushner, and Manafort it regarding participated the in, ___ bS per I DOJ/OIP I I ______________ The following Wednesday, June 28, Raffel to go to the offices of .._ Investigation on File# 03/13/2018 at Washington, I 2017, District Kushner asked Hicks ___, Of Columbia, United and Josh to review States Date drafted ( In b6 b7C Person) 04/02/2018 by I"=================!..------------------ b6 b7C b7E This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FB1(19cv1278)-566 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) b7E ContinuationofFD-302 of documents meeting looked (U) Interview of Hope Hicks ,On 03/13/2018 ------- , Page 2 of bS per -------------------------------------~ she and Raffel really bad. Hicks was reviewed shocked inl 18 by the emails concerning the loffice. She thought they DOJ/OIP b6 b7C bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C On June 29, 2017, Hicks, Kushner, and Ivanka met with the President in his dining room to talk about the emails. Hicks' initial reaction was that they should get in front of the emails. She wanted Junior to do an bS per interview with "softball questions" to get the emails out there. I I ---~~ ------------meeting about Russian previously mentioned I Kushner responded adoption. Kushner a meeting, and the it was not a big deal, reminded the President President said he did just a he had not want DOJ/OIP to FBI(19cv1278)-567 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of b7E (U) Interview know about it. so many people deal with it. I of Hope Hicks ,On The President said they should had the emails, and said they going to be a massive were "really bad" in about it and did not 3 of _0_3_/_1_3_/_2_0_1_8_, Page not do anything, needed to let the 18 asked why lawyers I bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP I Hicks told the President "this is story." She was not sure if she told him the emails that meeting. The President did not want to talk want details. When Hicks told the President the story would be "massive", he asked Kushner when his (Kushner) document production was due. Kushner told him it would be a couple of weeks. The President said, "then leave it alone." bS per I On July 7, discussion was working 2017, Hicks was in her hotel room in Germany having with Kushner and Ivanka about a story the New York on related to the [June 9, 2016] meeting I The following Trump about day, July 8, 2017, the NYT story related while at the G-20 to the meeting.I summit, a Times (NYT) bS per Hicks President said not to comment. DOJ/OIP told I bS per I The DOJ/OIP b6 b7C DOJ/OIP I I I Hicks and the President had a follow a session in the G-20. __________________________________ ! on conversation later that day, after I ..... IThe asked what the meeting was about. Hicks told him Kushner and told her the meeting was about Russian adoption. The President to the effect of, "then just say that" and dictated what she Presidentb5 Junior said should Per DOJ/OIP had words FBI( 19cv1278)-56B b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of (U) Interview of Hope Hicks ,On _0_3_/_1_3_/_2_0_1_8_, Page 4 of 18 bS per DOJ/OIP .------------------------------------------_._,5 per DOJ/OIP .-------------------------------------------~S per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C When they got on the airplane, Hicks called Garten to get an update. He texted Hicks the statement Junior wanted to provide to the media. She took that to the President's cabin and read him Junior's statement. He told her they should not respond. Hicks advocated for providing the whole story. The President did not say what was wrong with Junior's statement, but just felt they were giving the media too much bS per DOJ/OIP FBI( 19cv127B}-569 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of (U) Interview of Hope Hicks ,On _0_3_/_1_3_/_2_0_l_B_,Page 5 of 18 bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP I bS per 1 --------------------------------------bS DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP per DOJ/OIP I FBI( 19cv1278)-570 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of b7E (U) Interview of Hope Hicks ,On _0_3_/_1_3_/_2_0_1_8_, Page 6 of 18 bS per After meeting with Trump about Junior's statement, Hicks seat and started texting with Junior. They worked on the period and ultimately settled on the statement that went DOJ/OIP returned to a statement for a to the press . .-------------------------------------------bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C _____________________ ..._ __, emails. They decided the emails, so Hicks they went should let to Trump's Priebus already knew about the Trump know that Priebus knew about cabin and notified him. I I I bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP I FBI( 19cv127B)-571 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of b7E (U) Interview ----------there, he was of I She already Hope Hicks ,On went upstairs on the phone to with _0_3_/_1_3_/_2_0_1_8_, Page Trump's cabin Kasowitz. and when she 7 of 18 got b5 per DOJ/OIP Almost immediately after Hicks entered Trump's cabin, Trump handed the phone to Hicks. Kasowitz asked her what she was doing and told her his team was working with Circa News on a story that would blow the Russia investigation wide open. I I He told Hicks not to talk to the NYT. I b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI( 19cv127B)-572 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) b7E ContinuationofFD-302 of Interview (U) of Hope Hicks ,On 03/13/2018 ------- , Page 8 of ._ ________________________________________ The plane she called landed and Hicks Corallo to tell the statement.I bS per DOJ/OIP went back to the White House. When she arrived, him she was upset about the Circa News article. -------------------------------------------· approved 18 bS per She told him Trump had DOJ/OIP not I bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C bS per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP FBl{19cv1278)-573 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of b7E (U) Interview of Hope Hicks ,On _0_3_/_1_3_/_2_0_1_8_, Page 9 of 18 bS per DOJ/OIP Throughout Hicks' conversations with Trump, it was clear to her Trump did not think the emails would get out. Hicks' impression was Trump meant the emails would not get out to the press, but he did not say that explicitly. ------------------------------------------bS ,____ ________________ per bs DOJ/OIP ler DOJ/OIP Hicks did not believe the emails would never get out, nor did she express that to anyone. She knew Trump thought the emails would not get out to the press. On the call with Corallo, if Corallo thought she said otherwise, it was because she either expressed Trump's belief or that Corallo was confused and Trump, rather than Hicks, said the emails would not get out to the press. However, Hicks had no recollection of such a discussion with Corallo_ I_____________________________________ bS per r-----------....,.., DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP I bS per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278)-574 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302 of b7E (U) Interview of Hope Hicks ,On 03/13/2018 , Page ------- __________________________________________ ___________ .__ investigation _. Trump thought Sessions' recusal was an act of disloyalty to Trump. 10 o f 18 _,_,5 per from the DOJ/OIP Russia On July 19, 2017, Hicks had a conversation with Corey Lewandowski NYT interview Trump had done that day. conversation that Trump had asked him to go see Sessions and tell resign, and that he needed to do the right thing and step aside. point, the Senate was about to go into recess, so it was possible could get a new Attorney General through a recess appointment. 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IIL I - ·,. ii - FBI( 19cv1278)-616 UNCLASSIFIED Physical Created lA/lC Cover Sheet for Serial b7E From: Package: Stored Location: Summary: Acquired By: Acquired On: Attachment: Export None (U) Document Hicks provided by I2018-03-13 (U) Document Hicks b6 b7C provided by FBI(19cv1278)-61B •D • FD-340 (Rey.4-11-03) b7E File Number --L--------------------------- I Field Office Acquiring Evidence ~ Serial# of Originating Document :1::::::=1 _________________ _ 3 / 13 / 2-0 Date Received r l~ tto rht,,I( s From (Name of Contributor/Interviewee) (Address) (City and State) By_-=S=->k..-11...__ ____ To Be Returned D D ---,-__ lNo No Yes Receipt Given Yes Grand Jury Material - Disseminate Only Pursu Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure D Yes Federal Taxpayer Information (FTI) D Title! b6 b7C _:--------- t to Rule 6 (e) q No No tJ Yes I__________ __. b7E --Reference: \y\'.l·-if~CW ~ rtV (Comm~on Description: D ffi c.-C Encioslnhraterial) Original notes re interview of ---~ B1(19cv127B)-619 b7E b7A b7E - 1 of FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-10) 1- UNCLASSIFIED//FOtJO FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry 10/17/2018 b6 b7C Omarosa Manigault Newman, DOB:I was interviewed telephonically. Present for the telephonic interview were Senior Assistant Special Counsel (SASC) Andrew Goldstein, Assistant Special Counsel (ASC) Aaron Zelinsky, and Special Agents I I I Newman's attorney, John Phillips, was also present on the call. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, Newman provided the following information: I bS per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C bS per DOJ/OIP ____________________________________ .. I I I everyone on the campaign was "ecstatic" bS _Per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP I bS per DOJ/OIP I UNCLASSIFIED//FOUO Investigationon 08/23/2018 at Washington, File~#:...'.:===========::;==========--------------Date by.._ _______________________________________________ District Of Columbia, United States drafted (Phone) 10/16/2018 _ This documentcontainsneitherrecommendationsnor conclusionsof the FBI. It is the propertyof the FBI andis loanedto your agency;it andits contentsare not to be distributedoutsideyour agency. b6 b7A b7C b7E FBI(19cv1278)-621 b6 b7C ' ...... Ci?\ /2. :}..~·::..~:.t~~--3•.•-~ I ___ .,I . :, .... ,,.,;. ____. b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP : ·•· --~~ ... ~ -~~~~ -.·. b6 b7C b5 per DOJ/OIP bS per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278)-622 U.S. Department of Justice The Special Counsel 's Office Washington, D.C. 20530 January I 8, 2019 William A. Burck, Esq. Quinn Emanuel 1300 I Street, N.W. Suite 900 Washington, D.C. 20005 Re: Stephen Bannon Dear Counsel: You have indicated that your client, Stephen Bannon (hereinafter "Client"), is interested in providing information to the government. With respect to the meeting between the government, Client, and yourself on January 18, 2019 and testimony before the Grand Jury on January 18, 2019 (hereinafter "the meeting"), the government will be represented by individuals from the Special Counsel's Office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The terms of this letter do not bind any office or component of the U.S. Department of Justice other than those identified in the preceding sentence. The following terms and conditions apply to the meeting: (1) THIS IS NOT A COOPERATION AGREEMENT. Client has agreed to provide information to the government, and to respond to questions truthfully and completely. By receiving Client's proffer, the government does not agree to make any motion on Client's behalf or to enter into a cooperation agreement, plea agreement, immunity agreement or nonprosecution agreement with Client. The government makes no representation about the likelihood that any such agreement will be reached in connection with this meeting. (2) Should Client be prosecuted , no statements made by Client during the meeting will be used against Client in the government's case-in-chief at trial or for purposes of sentencing, except as provided below. (3) The government may use any statement made or information provided by Client, or on Client's behalf, in a prosecution for false statements, perjury, or obstruction of justice, premised on statements or actions during the meeting. The government may also use any such statement or information at sentencing in support of an argument that Client failed to provide truthful or complete information during the meeting, and, accordingly: (a) that under the United States Sentencing Guidelines, Client is not entitled to a downward adjustment for acceptance of responsibility pursuant to Section 3E 1.1, or should receive an upward adjustment for obstruction 1 FBI( 19cv12l8J-63 4 of justice pursuant to Section 3C 1.1; and (b) that Client's conduct at the meeting is a relevant factor under 18 U.S.C. § 3553(a). (4) The government may make derivative use of any statements made or other information provided by Client during the meeting. Therefore, the government may pursue any investigative leads obtained directly or indirectly from such statements and information and may use the evidence or information subsequently obtained therefrom against Client in any manner and in any proceeding. (5) In any proceeding, including sentencing, the government may use Client's statements and any information provided by Client during or in connection with the meeting to crossexamine Client, to rebut any evidence or arguments offered on Client's behalf, or to address any issues or questions raised by a court on its own initiative. (6) Neither this agreement nor the meeting constitutes a plea discussion or an attempt to initiate plea discussions. In the event this agreement or the meeting is later construed to constitute a plea discussion or an attempt to initiate plea discussions, Client knowingly and voluntarily waives any right Client might have under Fed. R. Evid. 410, Fed. R. Crim. P. 1l(f), or otherwise, to prohibit the use against Client of statements made or information provided during the meeting. (7) The government reserves the right to argue that neither this agreement nor the meeting constitutes the timely provision of complete information to the government concerning Client's involvement in an offense, within the meaning of Section 3El.l(b) of the Sentencing Guidelines. (8) If and when required to do so by a court, the government may disclose to the Probation Office or the court any statements and information provided by Client during the meeting. (9) The government may disclose the fact of the meeting or the information provided by Client during the meeting to the extent the government determines in its sole discretion that disclosure would be in furtherance of its discharge of its duties and responsibilities or is otherwise required by law. Such disclosure includes disclosure to a local, state, federal, or foreign government office or agency, including but not limited to another prosecutor's office, if the recipient of the information agrees to abide by the relevant terms of this agreement. (10) The terms and conditions set forth in this agreement extend, if applicable, to the continuation of the meeting on the dates that appear below. (11) It is understood that this agreement is limited to the statements made by Client at the meeting and does not apply to any oral, written or recorded statements made by Client at any other time. (12) This document embodies the entirety of the agreement between the government and Client to provide information and evidence. No other promises, agreements or understandings 2 FBI{19cv1278)-635 exist between Client and the government regarding Client's provision of information or evidence to the government. (13) Client and Client's attorney acknowledge that they have read, fully discussed and understand every paragraph and clause in this document and the consequences thereof. Dated: ----------- L ROBERT S. MUELLER, III Sj}ia!J°ult By: We~ D. Goldstein Attorney Special Counsel's Office ~--, StephenBann1;= tJ ~ William A. Burck, Esq. Attorney for Client Dates of Continuation ,4-{~ x. 5"p,', d c s--1 . Initials of counsel, Client and government attorney 3 FBI{19cv1278)-636 b7E - 1 of FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-10) 11 - UNCLASSIFIED//Feuo FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry Deputy General [L...r--------. Rod J. Rosenstein, residing at Maryland, government mobilel main office telephone! was interviewed at the U. S. Department of Justice's Robert F. Kennedy Building, located at 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, DC. Present for this interview was Scott N. Schools, Associate Deputy Attorney General, direct office telephone! government mobile! serving as Rosenstein's counsel. Having provided him with the identities of the interviewing agents and the reason for the interview, Rosenstein provided the following information: I Attorney 05/30/2017 I I I I ---~I I Rosenstein prefaced his interview with a caveat the Department of Justice have advised him not content of any conversations with the President privilege has been resolved. The Events of May 8, b6 b7C that attorneys to discuss the until the issue of of 2017 On May 8, Rosenstein was summoned to a meeting at the White House Counsel's Office attended by Attorney General Jeff Sessions and White House Counsel Donald McGahn. The meeting was placed on his calendar and scheduled by Rosenstein's assistants. Rosenstein was not informed of the purpose of the meeting. Rosenstein held up a typed document he described as his written recollection of the details of the meeting and expressed his desire to share that recollection with interviewing agents. Rosenstein also referenced stack of documents on the table beside him and indicated his interest in providing interviewing agents with copies. a Rosenstein was advised by Schools that neither the written materials, nor Rosenstein's recitation of what was discussed with any White House staff, should be provided to interviewing agents until the issue of privilege is resolved. Rosenstein's preference was to wait for Robert Mueller III, in his role as newly appointed Special Counsel, to engage the White House on the issue of UNCLASSIFIED//Feeo Investigation on 05/ 2 3/ 2 017 at Washington, Person) District Of Columbia, File.;_#_:l::====================================================:;---Date by._ ______________________________ United States drafted .._____________ (In O5/25/2017 _ This document contains neither recommendationsnor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its co-pt8f{3.[9fvl to be d1stnbutedoutside your agency. b3 b6 b7C b7E 278J-643 b3 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) UNCLASSIFIED//FO"° Continuation ofFD-302 of _(_u_/_~ ____ r_n_t_e_r_v_i_e_w_o_f_R_o_d_R_o_s_e_n_s_t_e_i_n ____ privilege, then determine recounting of any meetings to the FBI. , On whether the documents, with the White House, 05/23/2017 ------ , Page 2 of 11 and his oral should be provided The May 8 meeting at the White House Counsel's Office started at noon and initially included only Rosenstein and McGahn. They were later joined by Attorney General Sessions and Sessions' Chief of Staff, Jody Hunt. At some point during the meeting, White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus came into the room. This was the first time Rosenstein and Priebus had met. During this meeting the parties ordered lunch and ate in McGahn's office. Rosenstein authorized interviewing agents to consult his protection detail, staffed by the U.S. Marshals Service, in order to collect the exact time of the meeting. Rosenstein opined the meeting may have ended before 2:00 pm. Rosenstein returned to the White House around 5:00 pm at the Oval Office. This meeting was not scheduled on This meeting "lasted probably less than an hour." Also the meeting were President Donald Trump, Uttam Dhillon, McGahn, Priebus, Hunt, and a man he believed was John some point during the meeting, Vice President Michael the meeting. The Oval Office furniture was arranged with around the President's desk. Rosenstein was Behind the chairs was a couch, so Rosenstein whether others attended or departed. chairs in one cannot for a meeting his calendar. present at Sessions, Eisenberg. At Pence joined in a semi-circle of those chairs. be certain Rosenstein said "I knew when I left Director Corney would be fired." During this meeting, Rosenstein was tasked to write a memorandum summarizing his concerns about former FBI Director Jim Corney, and was given a deadline of the following morning. When he left the meeting he felt tense because he did not have a lot of time to complete the memorandum, and he felt uncertain because he did not know its ultimate disposition. The memorandum had to be 100% accurate so he "could stand behind it." At the conclusion of this meeting, Rosenstein returned to his office and began to write his memorandum. Rosenstein remained at his office late and did not get much sleep that night. When Rosenstein returned to his office, he informed his staff he had been tasked with writing the memorandum. Contemporaneously with Rosenstein's drafting of his memorandum, his staff drafted their own version. His staff included Chief of Staff and acting Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General James Crowell and Deputy Chief of UNCLASSIFIED//~ FBI{19cv1278)-644 b3 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) UNCLASSIFIED//~ Continuation ofFD-302 of _(_u_/_~ ____ r_n_t_e_r_v_i_e_w_o_f_R_o_d_R_o_s_e_n_s_t_e_i_n ____ , On Staff Zachary Terwilliger. Crowell and Terwilliger individuals who saw Rosenstein's memorandum until (May 9) when he provided a copy to Schools. When Crowell provided it language. and Terwilliger to Rosenstein, completed their who ma have incor 05/23/2017 , Page ------ 3 of 11 were the only the next morning draft memorandum, they orated some of their bG b7C bS per On March s request. President regarding discussed 2, Rosenstein had !was Gerald Ford. Rosenstein the Clinton investigation ____ I 2017, __. was ..._ thought Justice. they withl "disappointed" were damaging remained on May 8. Events May 9, in his to shared with I' latl l._____________ !in the Rosenstein very late of lunch Corney's public and 1970s under statements they DOJ/OIP b6 b7C in Corney's public statements and the Bureau and the Department of office working on his memorandum until 2017 Rosenstein returned to his office early on May 9 to finish the memorandum. On the morning of May 9, Rosenstein received two telephone calls from McGahn. Rosenstein did not do anything after either phone call as a result of whatever was discussed. Around 10: 00 or 10: 30 am, Rosenstein provided a copy of his draftb memorandum to Scott Schools, ____, Around noon, Crowell took a copy of Rosenstein's memorandum to Sessions. Crowell returned later that day with Rosenstein's memorandum bearing minor edits, (presumably made by Sessions), _________________ I No one from Rosenstein's outside drafting 5 per DOJ/OIP I the Department of Justice of his memorandum. UNCLASSIFIED//FOUO tried to influence FBI{19cv1278)-645 b3 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) UNCLASSIFIED//~ Continuation ofFD-302 of _(_u_/_/_~ ___ r_n_t_e_r_v_i_e_w_o_f_R_o_d_R_o_s_e_n_s_t_e_i_n ____ , On 05/23/2017 ------ , Page 4 of Sessions did not see Rosenstein's memorandum until after 12:00 on May 9. Rosenstein was unsure whether Sessions wrote his memorandum before or after seeing Rosenstein's. Rosenstein did see Sessions' memorandum until the following day. Rosenstein participate was recused 11 pm not and Sessions did not discuss whether Sessions should in Corney's termination. Rosenstein explained Sessions from "the matter," not from managing the component. Rosenstein was not sure how the White House would react to his memorandum because it was "not consistent with the President's comments" made during his campaign. According to Rosenstein, the President commended Corney about his handling of the Clinton e-mail investigation. Rosenstein assumed and expected the President or Attorney General, or possibly Rosenstein himself as Deputy Attorney General, would contact former Director Corney to schedule a meeting to inform him of his removal. Rosenstein expected it to happen soon because the termination was imminent. Rosenstein contemplated his memorandum would one day be released to the public but had not expected it to be released immediately. Department of Justice Public Affairs Specialist Sarah Flores opined to Rosenstein the issue of the release of the memorandum may have been previously discussed by Department officials, but Rosenstein could not recall the exact exchange with Flores because he was very busy with meetings on May 9 between 1:00 pm and 5:00 pm. At some point on the afternoon of May 9, Rosenstein telephoned McGahn and learned when Jody Hunt delivered Rosenstein's memorandum (and presumably Sessions'), Hunt remained in the Oval Office for two hours. Hunt later acknowledged he had been there for two hours. Later that afternoon, Rosenstein demanded Crowell ask to locate Corney to "bring him in" to inform him of the termination. Rosenstein exclaimed Corney "was a friend the FBI Director, we need to find out where he is." At he had formed the mistaken impression Corney was on his Angeles. He later discovered Corney had already arrived. Jim Rybicki looming of mine and that time, way to Los When Rosenstein learned Corney was informed of the termination byemail, he was "angry, ashamed, horrified, and embarrassed." It was also humiliating for Corney. Rosenstein was not copied on the e-mail to Corney, and was surprised the media portrayed the termination as Rosenstein's idea. At some point that evening, Sarah Flores told UNCLASSIFIED//FOUO FBI{19cv1278)-646 b3 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) UNCLASSIFIED//~ Continuation ofFD-302 of _(_u_/_/_~ ___ r_n_t_e_r_v_i_e_w_o_f_R_o_d_R_o_s_e_n_s_t_e_i_n ____ , On 05/23/2017 ------ , Page 5 of 11 Rosenstein something she had heard from a contact at the White House. (Schools advised Rosenstein not to discuss the content of the conversation.) Based on the exchange with Flores, Rosenstein told her the Department of Justice "cannot participate in putting out a false story." Rosenstein opined Flores's White House contact was someone from the White House Chief of Staff's Office or Public Affairs. Flores informed Rosenstein the White House requested he attend a press conference on the termination but Rosenstein refused. Later that evening, Rosenstein received his office from the President. Crowell at the time. After the telephone call, office (not as a result of the call). vestibule outside Sessions' office on terminated, she informed Rosenstein it ranking official at the White House." conversation, and nothing significant Rosenstein and Sessions at that time. a short telephone call in was in Rosenstein's office Rosenstein visited Sessions' Flores was in the secretary's a phone call. Once the call was a call from a "highSessions was not part of that was discussed between By the evening of May 9, it was clear White House officials had been telling the story about the Corney termination in a manner "inconsistent with my experience and personal knowledge." Events of May 10, 2017 Rosenstein first contacted Mueller course" he was thinking about the counsel before that time. on May 10 at 7:34 issue of appointing am, but "of a special Then, at 11:30 am, Rosenstein attended a previously scheduled meeting with the prosecutors assigned to the FBI's Russia investigation. This was the first regularly scheduled meeting on the matter. During this first meeting, and in light of all the controversy surrounding the investigation, Rosenstein declared, "In my acting capacity as the Attorney General, leave no stone unturned" or words to that effect. However, those assigned to the case are career prosecutors, so in his personal opinion, telling them to do so was unnecessary because he knew they would do the right thing. During his May 10 briefing, the team President was not a suspect. This was from his initial April 28 briefing he Corney. Carl Ghattas may have attended several prosecutors. confirmed for Rosenstein the also Rosenstein's impression received from then Director this briefing, as well as UNCLASSIFIED//FOUO FBI{19cv1278)-647 b3 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) UNCLASSIFIED//FO'l:re ContinuationofFD-302 of (U // FOUO} Interview of Rod Rosenstein Rosenstein elaborated that based on his appeared to be no evidence the President Rosenstein inquired whether they needed was informed there was no such need. ,On 05/23/2017 ------- , Page 6 of 11 May 10 briefing, "there was involved personally." additional resources, and bS per DOJ/OIP Several times throughout the day on May 10, Sarah Flores gave Rosenstein "tick tock" summaries of news events related to Corney's termination, which Rosenstein explained was not a time line, but a sequence of events. Sometime later that evening, Flores showed him a tick tock summary he believed was reasonable, and authorized its release. Rosenstein and McGahn spoke later that evening on the subject (and before the summary's release). Both were stressed over the situation. Rosenstein's main reason for appointing a special counsel was due to public perception of the process. It did not reflect a lack of confidence. Rosenstein was inclined to appoint a special counsel immediately the morning of May 10. Rosenstein was concerned about his position at the Department of Justice and it caused him stress, but it did not influence his decision. Rosenstein was not present at the White House on May 10 when President Trump referred to Corney as a "nut job," does not know who else was present, and knows only what he read in the newspaper. Rosenstein's Opinion of Jim Corney Rosenstein's opinion of Corney's handling of the Hillary Clinton investigation began to form the previous fall, and was also informed by others, whose opinions he read in the newspaper. Rosenstein interjected "I've always liked Jim Corney," but he disagreed with his decisions "in that case." Rosenstein paused moment, appearing to have been overcome by emotion, but quickly recovered and apologized. Rosenstein recalled inviting Justice training conference Corney to in October speak at a Department 2016. After he made UNCLASSIFIED/ ,LFOUO- a of his FBI{19cv1278)-648 b3 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ____ , On Continuation ofFD- 3o2 of _(_u_;_;._r_o_u_o_}_I_n_t_e_r_v_i_e_w_o_f_R_o_d_R_o_s_e_n_s_t_e_i_n remarks, he solicited questions, and attorney! his hand and asked Corney about his handling of conference. Corney described his state of mind acknowledged it was inconsistent with Department practice but stated "we acted in good faith." "fundamentally disagreed with his reasoning," issue "with several attorneys" who all agreed anything like that." 05/23/2017 , Page 7 of 11 ===========:::; !raised b6 b7C the Clinton press at the time and of Justice Rosenstein and discussed the "we would never do Rosenstein also recalled being invited late 2016 or early 2017 to Sessions' senatorial office for coffee. During this conversation, Rosenstein told Sessions he was friends with Corney but believed there should be a change in FBI management because the FBI's reputation had been damaged "because of 2016." Rosenstein agreed with Sessions it would be "appropriate to have a fresh start." On May 1, 2017, Rosenstein attended a "component meeting" and afterwards, Rosenstein asked Corney to remain, and they met privately in Corney's old office during his tenure as Deputy Attorney General. It was his first and only meeting with Corney in the role of Deputy Attorney General, which directly supervises the position of FBI Director. I I bS per DOJ/OIP !During this meeting, Corney discussed a dinner he -a~t~t_e_n_d..,....e-d..-a....,...t-the White House with the President. Rosenstein described Corney as not an "alarmist" but Corney described the dinner as "strange" and "awkward." The President did all the talking during this dinner. Rosenstein reiterated his goal in drafting his memorandum was not to "fire Corney." It never occurred to him he "would be responsible for determining whether to remove him." It never crossed his mind the removal of Corney would impact the Russia investigation. Rosenstein "doesn't know what the White House was thinking." The notion that removing Corney would impact the FBI's Russia investigation never crossed his mind. Rosenstein was comfortable with Corney either being fired or not fired. Rosenstein did not believe staffing decisions were his to make; the deputy attorney general was only to make recommendations. If the decision was made not to fire Corney, Rosenstein intended to inform him "we didn't make public statements." UNCLASSIFIED//-Peee FBI{19cv1278)-649 b3 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) UNCLASSIFIED//~ Continuation ofFD- 3o2 of _(_u_/_/_F_o_u_o_)_I_n_t_e_r_v_i_e_w_o_f_R_o_d_R_o_s_e_n_s_t_e_i_n ____ , On Rosenstein's Selection as Deputy Attorney 05/23/2017 8 of , Page ------ 11 General Senator Sessions telephoned Rosenstein on November 28, 2016, and invited him to his office to "talk about the Department." A few days later, Rosenstein visited Sessions. Rosenstein did not know for which position he was being considered. It was clear only that 05 per he was beina considered for "a oosi tion. "I DOJ/OIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJ/OIP Sessions summoned him to his office several times for meetings. Before one such meeting, he waited with Rachel Brand and they discussed personnel matters, after which Brand commented the fact they had both been summoned meant they were both going to be offered positions in the new administration under Sessions. This was important because Brand was supposed to start a new job the following day and needed to know whether to withdraw from the position. b5 DOJ/OIP his meetings during the hiring Rosenstein either Sessions or Sessions' aides. Rosenstein recalled! who was a close friend of Sessions, was present during some of the early meetings, as were other employees of Sessions, including who served as then-Senator Sessions' aide before coming to the Department of Justice. ---------------phase were between All per of and I Rosenstein nominated, associate be deoutv, I was never certain for what position he had been but assumed it was either the deputy attorney general or attorney general position. In fact, he was nominated to and Brand was nominated to be associate. I I b5 Sessions and Rosenstein during this time period. b6 b7C per DOJ/OIP never discussed the Russia investigation Rosenstein only knew about the Russia UNCLASSIFIED//~ FBI{19cv1278)-650 b3 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) UNCLASSIFIED//~ Continuation ofFD-302 of _(_u_/_/_~ ___ r_n_t_e_r_v_i_e_w_o_f_R_o_d_R_o_s_e_n_s_t_e_i_n ____ , On 05/23/2017 ------ 9 of , Page 11 investigation what he read in the newspaper. During his confirmation hearing, Rosenstein thought it "almost preposterous" that he would have any involvement with the investigation. Only after discussing the matter with Corney did Rosenstein know anything about the investigation. The Russia investigation had been monitored by acting Deputy Attorney General Crowell and Dana Boente until was sworn in as Deputy Attorney General. Rosenstein's briefing on the matter was provided by Corney on April Terwilliger was excluded from these briefings. Interviews of Potential Director In January 2017, Rosenstein called would be interested in the position heard the President had given his Rosenstein stopped asking around. Principal Rosenstein first 28, 2017. Candidates "a few people" to see if they of FBI Director but when he public support to Corney, b5 per DOJ/OIP Rosenstein and Sessions conducted several interviews "a week ago Saturday," more on last Sunday, then engaged in several telephone calls with individuals "offering advice" or with prospective candidates. Rosenstein telephoned "a lot" of former Justice Department and Bureau officials looking for good candidates. There were two former deputy attorneys general Rosenstein hoped would consider the position, but neither was willing to apply. Rosenstein participated in several interviews for the position of FBI Director. Those interviews were conducted by Rosenstein, Jody Hunt, and Sessions. Sessions and Rosenstein asked most of the questions. I I b5 per UNCLASSIFIED//~ b6 b7C DOJ/OIP FBI{19cv1278)-651 b3 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) UNCLASSIFIED//FOUO ContinuationofFD-302 of (U / / FOUO) Interview of Rod Rosenstein ,On _0_5_/_2_3_/_2_0_1_7_ , Page 1 0 of r- ____________________________________ b5 per 11 DOJ/OIP b6 b7C 1 ____________________________________ The first Mueller. I candidate to be ..=.:5:......:!:p~e=r:........::DOJ interviewed at the White House was b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per ,------------------------------------~b~5:......;per DOJ/OIP I UNCLASSIFIED//FOUO DOJ/OIP FBI{19cv1278)-652 b3 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) UNCLASSIFIED//FOUO Continuation ofFD-302 of Interview of Rod Rosenstein ,On 05/23/2017 , Page 11 o f 11 b5 per Rosenstein Appoints Mueller as Special DOJ/OIP Counsel Rosenstein's first conversation with Mueller for the position of Special Counsel was during a telephone call on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, at 7:34 am. On Friday, May 12, Rosenstein met with Mueller in person. Later that evening, Jody Hunt telephoned Mueller. Rosenstein and Sessions spoke with Mueller on Saturday, May 13. Mueller informed them he did not want to be interviewed for the FBI Director position. Rosenstein instead convinced Mueller to share with Sessions Mueller's views about "what should be done with the FBI." Sessions thought Mueller's comments were "brilliant." Rosenstein did not want to interview Mueller and then reject him, so they made it clear they only sought his opinion. Nevertheless, Mueller was placed on the White House's list of potential candidates for FBI Director. Jody Hunt was the Department of Justice's primary contact with the White House and may have got him on the list for an interview. Mueller was interviewed for the position of FBI Director, but later decided to withdraw from consideration. Mueller interviewed Rosenstein did not of Director. for the coordinate Director position on Tuesday, Mueller's interview for the May 16. position When Rosenstein appeared before Congress on Thursday, May 18, he did not discuss anything related to communications with the White House because he believed such matters were within the scope of the Special Counsel's investigation. Although Rosenstein assigned a special counsel, he did not dictate exactly what the Special Counsel would include in its investigation. He had considered several candidates for Special Counsel, including Jim Coles. UNCLASSIFIED//~Oue- FBI{19cv1278)-653 Rod Rosenstein,...____________ ____,MD20817, DOJ cell._!____ __.!main._l__ b6 b7C __. D May 8 of this year, summines to meeting at WH with McGan and AG, at WHC office. he didn't speak to him, assistants schedules it. Found out therough DOJ staff AG would be there. He didn't know purpose of meeting. He wrote down his thoughts on the meeting but doesn't want to give it over yet. Wants Mueller to talk to WH for approval before discussing contents. Started at noon, at first just him and McGahn, then AG and chief of staff Jody Hunt arrived. At one point Reince Priebus came into room, first time they met. He ordered lunch, they ate in McgHns office. His protection detail would have exact times, probably got back between 1 and 2. Detail can give us times. Marshalls. Returned for meeting at oval office at 5pm, not on his calendar though. That white house meeting lasted probably less than an hour. Present at the meeting was P, Uttam Dhillon, him, the AG, initially Donald McGhan, Reince Priebus, Jody Hunt, and a man he believes to be John Eisenberg. At some point the VP came into the meeting. Returned to DOJ, thenstarted writing memo. I knew when I left D Corney would be fired and told the below staffers and that he wasx tasked to write memo summarizing bis concerns about Corney. He left tense because he didn't have a lot of time and uncertain because he didn't know the ultimate disposition of the memo. Had to be 100% accurate so he coulds stand behind it. They drafted their own memo too. They did it at the same time he worked on his then he might have incorporated some of their comments. One thing they did is draft a memo, then collected public criticisms of Corney's comments and gave him a page of it. Printed all those comments and articles criticizing Corney's stuff. Also got transcript of Cmoey May 3 congressional testimony. His opinion on Corney dated back to last fall. Opinion was also informed by opinions of others he read in papersetc. Had lunch with! !atl !request. He's a formeQin Ford. He wanted to share with DAG those pubic statements an~._____________ b6 b7C 70's under __,r'as disappointed ni Corney's public satatements and how damaging they were to Bu and Dept. Ive always liked Jim Corney. Disagreed with his decisions inthat case. Spoke to two staffers, James Crowell who is chief of staff and acting principal associate deputy attorney general, and Zachary Terwilliger, who is deputy chief of staff. They assisted him in writing the memo. They were the only ones who saw memo until the next morning when he showed memo to Scott May 9 morning. Wasin office until vert late may 8, came home, came back May 9, got 2 phone calls from McGhan. b5 per DOJ/OIP Morning, Scott reviewed memo around 10am Around noon, Crowell took copy of memo to AG, Crowell returned later with edid ...___ __.IHesigned it. FBI{19cv1278)-654 He knew AG was working on his memo but never saw it until the next day. Next thing he recalled - asnt sure what WH would think of his memo because not consistent with P's comments on campaign. He assumed P or AG and possibly DAG would have to contact Corney to schedule a meeting to inform of removal. He expected that. He knew it was imminent and figured he'd be called in for a meeeing. Sarah Flores, PAU recalled convo about DONJ releasing memos. Doesn't remember either way. Not involved in AG's memo. He contemplated memo would one day be reelased . didn't know it would be done immediately, although Sarah thought that might have been discussed. He had several meetings between 1 and 5 so busy day. At some point he called McGhan that afternoon and learned Jody Hunt spent two hours in oval office. He took memos over from DOJ. Hunt said he was there. Later that afternoon, Corney was a friend of mine and FBI D, we need to find out where he is. Told Jim Crowell to tell Jim Rybicki to find Corney to bring him in to give him news. He formed mistaken impression Cmoey was on his way to LA, later learned he was already there. When he found out how he was fired, he was angry, ashamed, horrigied, embarrassed, it was humiliating for Corney. At some point that evening, PAO Sarah Flores told DAG something she heard from WH. And DAG told her the DOJ cannot participate in putting out afalse story. Sarah said WH wanted him to attend press conferecnce and he refused. Received phone call from Plater that evening. Crowell was in DAG's office. Short call. Shortly alater he was in AG's office, which is normal, Sarah was on phone with high ranking WH person, and after that, Sarah said it was call from WH. Sarah and DAG was in secretary's office having exchange with Sarah while she was on phone. AG not part of that convo. No significant convo with AG at that time. Evening of May 9 it was clear WH officials was telling story about firing d that was inconsistent with DAG's experience and personal knowledge. He called Mueller at 734am on may 9m but was of course thinking about it before. He "realized immediately the problem." April 28- first briefing on Russia led by comey. Some of ghattis might have been there and prosecurtosr. May 10- called Mueller on 734am on may 10th (corrected previous mistake). May 10 previously scheduled meetingh with prosecutors on Russia investigation. 1130 am May 10 was first regularly scheduled meeting. He said in my acting capacity as AG- leave no stone unturned. Because of all the controversy and therefore, leave no stone .... In his personal opinion teling ihm that was unnecessary because they are career prosecutos and would do the right thing. Confirmed president was not suspect. That was also his impression on april 28 when comey told him that. Based on his briefing there appeared to be no evidence P was involved personally. They saw no bS per DOJ/OIP need for additional resources (DAG asked) and FBI{19cv1278)-655 ________________________ .__ ___, b5 per On May 10 several times throughout DOJ/OIP the day, Sarah gave him a "tick tock summary" of news events ... not a time line but sequence of events. Some time early evening she shoed him one he thought was a reasonable summary of events. It was reelased later that evening. He and McGhan spoje later that evening about that. McGhan called him BEFOREthey released the sequence of events. They were both stressed over the situation. Public perception of process, so he decided to appoint sp4ecial counsel. No lack of confidence, purely an issue of public perception. He was inclined to appoint SC immediately that morning. He was concerned about his poisitoin here but it stressed him but did not influence his decision. No information about the nut job comments. He invited Corney to speak at rteh October training conreernce .._!___ __.!raised his hand and asked about the Clinton press conference. He told entire story about his state of mind and knows it was b6 b7C inconscistsent with DOJ practice but we acted in good faith. DAG fundamentally disagreed with his reasoning, discussed with several attorneys, we would never do anything like that. No one from outside tried to influence his drafting of his memo. AG didn'[t see DAG's memo until after noon on that day. So perhaps AG wrote his aready. So AG His opinion is AG;s recusal from a matter doesnot mean he is recused from "managing the component." He reminded in his statement he and AG discussed Corney, was invited to AG to talk have coffee in Sessions office. He told AG he was friends with comeyn but that there should be change ni FBI management because repuitation was damaged and he agreed with AG it would be appropriate to hav a fresh start. AG knew DAG liked Corney. DAG was ok firing or not firing, his view was it is not his decision to fire or not fire. He only makes recommendations. As DAG he felt if D was going to stay he would tell him we didn't make piblci statements May 1- component meeting b5 per DOJ/OIP One meeting he had with comey as DAG was-----~nd they spojke in carney's old Dag office. Corney talked about the dinner with the Pat that time. Corney wasn't alarmist, but just "strange/" His goal WAS NOT to fire Corney. It never occurred to him he would be responsible for determining whether to remove him. The notion removing Corney would impact the Russia thing never crossed his mind. He never believed the terminaton had anything to do with Russia. He doesn't know what WH was thiking. FBI{19cv1278)-656 Corney told him after their one meeting he had an awkward dinner with president, his demeanor was odd, he didn't know it would just bew th e2 of them, P did all the talking. But in his mind, P is not subject of this (collusion) investigation. In congress he would not discuss anything related to communications with WH because within scope of Muelle's investigation. He assigned the matter but didn't dictate what so he didn't know exly what he was investigationg. Sessions (then senator) November 28 called and said let's talk about department. Came in few days later, didn't know what he was being considered for. It was clear he was being considered for "a b5 I position.'1 I DOJ/OIP per b6 b7C This led to sessions calling him to his office a few times for meetings. At one meeting Rachel Brand and he were talking about persoinnel and Rachel said I guesss the fact we were here means we were getting ___________________ ________ the jobs. Apparently Rachel needed to kno whether to withderaw from another job she was supposed .--__, His tostart the next day .__ only jeetings were with AG and AG's aides. Never with WH. close friend of AG was in .,.!::::====:::!..... some of those early meetings. Others too, ee's of senator.I b6 b7C b5 per DOJ/OIP Never certain when he was nominated but began to assume it was DAG or associate AG (Rachel got that job) b5 per DOJ/OIP They never talked about Russian thing. Only what he knew in paper. Then during confirmation hearing he found it almost preposterous that he wouldhav ei involvement with Russian piece. Only after talking to comey id he know anything about Russian piece. Boente and crowell as acting POAGwere only ones monitoring Russia case until DAG sworn in. got his first briefing on aprl 28. APDAG been acting since januarty 20. In January he called a few people to see if they would be interested in FBI D but then Trump said he supported Corney so he stopped asking. b5 per DOJ/OIP I FBI{19cv1278)-657 AG and DAG conducted a lot of interviews a week ago Saturday, then last Sunday, then several phone calls with people offering advice or prospective candidates and DAG was calling a lot of former DOJ officials and Bu friends looking for good candidates. There were 2 DAG hoped would take the job. Neither was willing to apply. The interviews he participated in was Jody Hunt,I b6 b7C IAG and Dag. AG and DAG asked most of the questions! b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJ/OIP I ._ ___________________________________ b_5_p_e_r ....~DOJ/OIP FBI{19cv1278)-658 DAG's first converasdtion with Mueller was May 10 at 734 am. Met with him Friday. later, Jody reached out to him Friday night about FBI D and he interviewed Tuesday. Over the weekend on Saturday they talked. They talked to Mueller by phone along with AG. He briefly shared his views about what should be done with FBI, AG thought it was brilliant. He somehow got on WH list. Jody Hunt was primary POC with WH and he probably got him on the list at WH for an interview. He said on phonie he didn't want to be interviewed for FBI D, DAG convinced him to share with AG what he should be looking for for D. AG thought he was spot on. DAG sdidnt want to interview then reject him, so they made it clear they just wanted his opinion ... 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Hicks was accompanied by her attorneys Present for the 1....---------------------------------, interview were Supervisory Special Agent (SSA) __________ _ Special Senior Counse l or to Agent (SA)! !James L. Quarles, the Special Counsel, Jeannie S. Rhee, Senior Assistant Special Counsel, and Andrew Goldstein, Senior Assistant Special Counsel. Hicks was advised it is a crime to lie to the FBI in the course of an investigation, which she acknowledged. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, Hicks provided the following information: I b6 b7C b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP I b6 b7C I I I lmestigationon at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {In Person) I :...:::::========================::::;---- File Ii by 12/08/2017 Date drafted 02 / 22/ 2018 This document contains neither recommendations nor eondusions or the FBI. It is the prope11y or the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents arc not to be distributed outside 1our agency. b6 b7C b7E FBI(19cv1278)-891 fl)-302a (RcY. 05-08-IO) b7E ~ ContinuationofFD-'.lfl2of (U) Interview of Hope Hicks (Day 2) .On 12/08/2017 ------ . Page 2 of 23 b5 per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJ/OIP b6 b7C FBI(19cv1278)-892 b7E FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ContinuationofFD-302of (U) Interview of Hope Hicks (Day 2) ,On _1_2_/_0_B_/_2_0_1_7_, Page 3 of 23 .-------------------------------------------.,_,h5 I .,_______________________________ I ___.It I I was about She received a call from number with a 202 area code, and a foreign person was on the the line. Hicks had a hard time understanding the person but make out the words "Putin call."I ----------did. Once she I She received asked the caller it, she forwarded to send her an email, it to Kushner. 3:00 a telephone other end she could per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per am DOJ/OIP of I which he b5 per -----------------------------1 et t er, which she gave to transition DOJ/OIP I The officials. Russians sent a She had some back and FBI{19cv1278)-893 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) b7E ContinuationofFD-302of (U) Interview of Hope Hicks (Day 2) ,On 4 of _1_2_/_0_B_/_2_0_1_7_, Page 23 __________________ b5 per forth exchanges with Sergey Kuznetsov, She remembered their first .__ call DOJ/OIP _. and that the Hicks reviewed an email (labelled "Exhibit 40") and confirmed she received it after the phone call. She was not sure if the situation was legitimate, which is why she sent it to Kushner to verify . ._ ______________ b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP I b5 per quoted Hicks as saying the campaign had "no contact with Russian officials." She had received press inquiries about it, because someone had said the campaign was in constant contact with the Russian government. Nothing Hicks had seen led her to believe that was true. She acknowledged her answer to the newspaper was overbroad, but she checked in with a few people after the fact to validate it. She recalled she talked to Kellyanne Conway and Stephen Miller. □ thought there she She asked Jason Miller reached out to Conway and Hicks told that was no hesitation and probably Bannon. group she was planning or pushback from any asked to respond of them. I Kushner. to the DOJ/OIP She press and I b5 per DOJ/OIP I FBI{19cv1278)-894 FD-1fl2a (Re,. 05-flR-lO) ContinuationofFD-'.lfl2of b7E (U) Interview of Hope Hicks (Day 2) .On _1_2_/_0_B_/_2_0_1_7_ . Page 5 of 23 b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b5 per DOJ/OIP b7E b5 per DOJ/OIP FBI(19cv1278)-895 fl)-302a (RcY. 05-08-IO) ContinuationofFD-'.lfl2of b7E (U) Interview of Hope Hicks (Day 2) .On 12/08/2017 ------ . 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After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, OHR provided the following information: at ~ OHR met~I ______ they both attended. I in 2007, sometime before a January 2008 conference OHR remembers he was at a conference when land their first .....,i_n_t,--e_r_a_c_t,....i_o_n-t""o_o..,k_p_i_a_c_e_p_r ... i_o_r_"'"t_o_t,.....h_a..,.t_e_v_e-n""t-. -""A""s_t,.....h_e.....,c""h,.....i_e_,_! of DOJ' s Organized Crime and Racketeering Section at the time, OHR met~,------, inbl _ 1 London at..,,_ ___ ....,._____ .,...... was an expert on Russia, b 3 _1 specifically Russian organized crime, and was concerned the west was not b6 -2, 3 taking the Russian threat seriously. Russian oligarchs are brilliant yet b7C -2, 3 cold-blooded and do not act like adults as they kill people for nothing. b7D -1 7 2 3 4 r~d a few more meetings before OHRleft b E - , , ...................... ~the years OHR anctl i....---..1!"",,d joined or founded Orbis. _ OHR and would see each other once a year in London or th~Sl aid clients, et rovided OHR with the same short OHR intel reports introduced I I I I, . ,--------------------------------------------, .·1-_---------1 iUJ ~( OHR believes thad b3 -1 b7D -1 b7E -2, I 4 I lnvestigationon 11/22/2016 at Washington, District Of Columbia, .,...!:=======::::;-----------------.__ file# by.__ ______ ,..._ __________________________ United ___ _ States Date drafted (In Person) 11 /22/20 16 _ b3 -1 b6 -2 b7C -2 b7E -1 This document conuiins neither rccommcnda1,011s nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be dimibuted outside your agency. FBI(18cv2107)· 1 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) b3 -1 b7E -1 I jU) ContinuationofFD-302of Interview -~ of Bruce Ohr , On 11 / 2 2 / 2 0 1 6 , Page 2 of 3 HJJ -~ OHR believes Russian oligarchs will provide information to the FBI because in Russia everyone talks to the police. Following the 2014 Ukrainian invasion OHR metl loHR recalled thethreetalked about engaging with prospective oligarchs, and that .... meeting led to a meeting between the FBI, ..._ bl -1 b7A -1 b6 -2, 3 b7C -2, 3 b7E -4 _________________ jS) I (U/~I I HJ) ~) In late July 2016, possibly Saturday, July 30, 2016, ...__~____ .... ~called OHR and asked to meet for breakfast as he/she was in Washington, D.C. and had some serious stuff to talk about. planned to also tell SAl!about the information he/she had collected. for b~st where OHR was told that Carter Page had OHR me~ met with high level officials in Russia. Page met with Sechin and one other The media had already docume.....,.....,,._.._......,_.._............ _.....,'--'.....,.....,.....,._....., __ I I I reported Ialmost I to! In addition, was furious at..._ __ b7D -1, b7E -4 2 bl -1 b3 -1 b6 -1, 2, 3 b7A -1 b7C -1, 2, 3 b7D -1, 2 b7E -2, 3, 4 _. and was making a case against him ...... ---.-----------,.---' ere ready to talk to the U.S. about the money _________ stole ......___ ....., ..._______ _.!claimed he had already given some of this reporting to SA and planned to give the rest to him. At that time,! ~ad pr~o_v_i_d_e_d.... ...______ !with two reports regarding these topics while Glen Simpson had four. OHR provided copies of notes he took during and after the meeting with _______ __.Iwhich are enclosed as attachments. I -~ OHR knew Glen Simpson hired ~I _____ _.!to dig up Trump's connections to Russia. OHR's wife is a Russian translator and was hired to conduct open source research. Even though she did not know the goal of the project, she was able to surmise the purpose as the individuals she was researching were close to Trump. OHR knew that Glen Simpson was hired by a lawyer who does opposition research. OHR knewl !reporting on Trump's ties to Russia were going to the Clinton Campaign, Jon Winer at the U.S. State Department and the FBI. OHR was aware that Simpson was passing! hformation to many individuals or entities and at times~l...;;..i-----~1-w_o_u_l__.d attend meetings with Simpson. -~ possibly close September 23, server in the Russian/American I OHR metl in Washington, D. C. in late September, to the time when the Yahoo news article was published on 2016. During that meeting, advised the Alfa US is a link to the Trump campaign and Sergei Millian's organization in the U.S. used the Alfa server two weeks I b7E -4 b7E - 4 I FB1(1Bcv2107)-2 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) J3ECBET//Ofteel:r4/NOFQRN = b3 -1 b7E -1 prior was desperate that Donald Trump not get about him not being the U.S. President. OHR believes! !wanted to blunt or foil the Kremlin's plans. Simpson and ~!______ !could have met with Yahoo or Michael Isikoff jointly, but OHR does not know if they did. OHR provided copies of notes he took after the meeting with~'------~1 which are enclosed as attachments. ------------------elected and was passionate -~ OHR never believed! shading it. He/she would say this is are always Russian conspiracY, theories time OHR heard a theor from believes _______ that doesn't make reported that story what true. up information or what telling me. There that_c_o_m_e-~f~rom the Kremlin. One I he heard !was making lare OHR honestly from ______________ (U) ~ OHR does not ---------------------.! OHR provided know how! OHR does not the following !handles know the identity contact or information communicates of~I-------~ b7D -1, b7E -3, 2 4 but -~ Jon Winer possibly knew OHR met Winer in 1999 or 2000 when Winer was the U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for International Law Enforcement. Winer was very interested in Russian Organized Crime and enthusiastic about the subject, OHR knew Glen Simpson and others were yet at times difficult to deal with. talking to Victoria Nuland at the U.S. State Department. --------------------- bl -1 b3 -1 b6 -1, 3 b7C -1, 3 b7E -4 b6 -1 b7C -1 b7E -4 b7D -1, b7E -4 2 for b6 -4 b7C -4 b7D -1 b7E -4 FB1(1Bcv2107)-3 ALL HEORlcA1'ION HEREIN CON'l"A.INED UHCLASSEIED E}:CEP'r j,/HERE saa.a•T OTFIE.."<.·,·,I.SE IS - 1 of FD-302 (Rev 5-8-10) SEC 2- BY: HSI CG CLASSI:IED REASON: 1.4 (C.) DECLASSI!'",' ON: 12-31-2041 DATE: 07-23-2019 b6 -2 b7C -2 ORN FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 12/19/2016 Date of entry Do not disseminate outside DRAFT DOCUMENT/DELIBERATIVE MATERIAL the FBI without the permission of the originator or program manager. b6 -5 b7C -5 Bruce OHR, ______________________ currently the Associate Deputy Attorney General and Director of the Department of Justice's Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force {OCDETF) was interviewed FBI Headquarters. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, OHR provided the following information: ~ )]) one occasion, OHR has OHR met neve ...r__l __________________ at b6 b7C b7D b7E I L----, On withl I I -1 -1 -2 -4 I ;si OHR has never been __ J_on winer. OHR is 7 __. advises OHR that ______ L..----r-----..._ met as present during meetings only aware that the meetings occur. ._I _____ ~ Glen Simpson direc~t~e~d~-----~1 that was what Simpson was payin~ Ito ______ _.!going to Mother Jones was Simpson's (U\ between _ !and Winer have to speak to the press as do. OHR does not know if idea or not. bl b3 b6 b7C b7E -1 -1 -1 -1 -4 b7E -4 ~ Glen Simpson hired OHR' s wife to conduct research for his firm. OHR will voluntarily provide his wife's research to the FBI. OHR provided the interviewing Agent with a report on Paul Manafort. The report titled, "Manafort Chronology", was scanned and is a digital attachment to document. this 12/05/2016 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States Oatcdrafted 11n Person) 12/12/2016 This document contams neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBJ. ll is !he property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed oulside your agency b3 -1 b6 -2 b7C -2 b7E -1 FBI(18cv2107)-4 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) b3 -1 b7E -1 Continuation ofFD-302 of ~ Interview of Bruce Ohr , On 12 / 0 5 / 2 0 1 6 , Page 2 of 2 ; 7ORC&.f/!JOi'ORJL FB1(1Bcv2107)-5 CL.ASSI?IEC REASON: B\•: 1. 4 DECLASSIFY NSICG ALL IHFOfil.lA'fIOH COHTAINEC HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED EXCEPT WHERE SHG,'IN O'THE'fl.l·/ISE (C) DH: 12-31-2041 DATE: 07-23-2019 - 1 of FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-10) 0FFIOl.a,,._ RECORP 3- ~-v,i: dl(,"'-'.~~',,~"'1 C'«v.~-.lf,11.-,oc:~·;\ /&I S,11".11~r<-~•~ btt-" ,~-•~,t ~g., -,.•c,,,~~l<"' !.')'YA-~, ,_,,or..,,, ~cRE'!' t' b6 -2 b7C -2 12/19/2016 Date of entry outside : enema:tcloJ!'O~ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Do not disseminate manager. ~ ~ DRAFT DOCUMENT/DELIBERATIVE MATERIAL the FBI without the permission of the originator or program b6 -5 b7C -5 Bruce OHR,._ ___________________ __. currently the Associate Deputy Attorney General and Director of the Department of Justice's Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force {OCDETF) was interviewed FBI Headquarters. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, OHR provided the following information: at ~ OHR had breakfast at Peet's Coffee, 11th and E St. NW, Washington, D.C. with Glenn Simpson at 10:00 A.M. on December 10, 2016. During breakfast Simpson provided OHR with an 8GB Verbatim USB micro digital media drive (thumb drive)_ OHR does not know what is on the thumb was hired to do drive but believes it is in regards to the workl for Simpson. The thumb drive was entered into evidence at WFO as original evidence ~l...,.. _____ ...,,.. __ ...,....,...___.I and a working copy CD-ROM was produced for investigative use. An evidence FD-302 was generated and serialized to this file. b7E -4, 5 I OHR took notes after the meeting with ~ his memory and referred to them during the interview. attachment to this document. ·'Ul l I Simpson OHR's to preserve notes are an Simpson identified Michael Cohen, a lawyer in Brooklyn, NY as having many Russian clients in the Brighton Beach, NY area. Cohen is the go-between Russia and the Trump Campaign and replaced Paul Manafort and Carter Pae. Cohen's wife's last name is Shusterman Cohen may have attended a meeting in Prague, possibly in September, regarding the Trump Campaign and the Russians. lnvcstigationon 12/12/2016 at Washington, File# District Of Columbia, United States Date drafted (In b6 -1 b7C -1 Per:son) 12/14 / 2016 byi....---------------------------------------------- b3 -1 b6 -2 b7C -2 b7E -1 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of !he FBI. !! is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency FBI(18cv2107)-6 FD-302a (Rev 05-08-10) b3 -1 b7E -1 _r_n_t_e_r_v_i_· e_w __ o_f_B_r_u_c_e_O_h_r ______ Continuation ofFD-302 of -~-·-···_····_···._···_· _·_··_··_) ~ According to Simpson, much , On of his 12 /12 /2 016 collection , Page about the 2 of 3 Trump ,....c"""""a"'"m""'p""'a_i"'"· g""""'"n--'t""'i""e~s--'t""'o'---'R~u""'s""'s'-iia comes froml Simpson does ....._n_o_t __ k_n_o_w_h.....,.i_s_n_a_m_e __-----------~ I ______________I ~ A former Trump campaign talking about some of the Trump ties to to sue him for violating his non-disclosure m) official, possibly Rick Wilson, was Russia and the Trump Campaign tried agreement. ~ A Russian senator and mobster named Torshin may be involved in running the Central Bank of Russia. Torshin's name comes up in in Law Enforcement Organized Crime circles as he is well known in a famous Spanish case that shows direct linkages between Russian Organized Crime, Torshin and the Russian Government. Torshin may have funneled Russian money to the National Rifle Association (NRA) to use in support of Trump. An NRA lawyer,! ! found out about the money pipeline and was very upset, but the election was over by the time she learned of it. Simpson stated there are pictures or Torshin with Trump. Simpson provided OHR with an article on the NRA and Torsion. The article is an attachment to this document. ~ large amount involvement, Some of Simpson's staff believe the of money during the election, possibly but others in his company disagree. ~) downplayed the was incorrect. The New York Times story connection between Alfa There was communication NRA spent indicating received from October 3, 2016, Bank servers and and it wasn't s am . Simpson is not a bizarre sure whether tip to on December believe that 9 that ~bl -1 b3 -1 b6 -1,3 b7A -1 b7C -1,3 b7E -2,3 the this. (U) ·~ Simpson still thinks Sergei Millian is a key connecting Trump to Russia. Looking at Millian led Simpson's Cohen. Simpson would be surprised if Millian was still in believes Millian is an SVR officer, however he is deducing Millian's alias, not because he was told Millian was SVR. overseen many financial transfers from Russia to assist the ~ reporter as Simpson asked it was Simpson's I Hail Ito speak Mary attempt. to the b6 -1 b7C -1 an abnormally Russian ._ ___________________________________________ Simpson b6 -3 b7C -3 figure company to the U.S. Simpson this from Millian may have Trump campaign. Mother Jones b7E - 4 FB1(1Bcv2107)-7 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) f!JJContinuationofFD-302of \JJ) b3 -1 b7E -1 ~Interview of Bruce Ohr ,On 3 of _1_2_1_1_2_1_2_01_6_, Page 3 about his personal ·~ OHR asked Simpson if he was concerned safety. Simpson responded that he learned from his Russian investigative reporting what they were capable of but there was no way for him to know if they were coming after him. Simpson mentioned that someone called and asked him to find out where all of the Alfa Bank stories were coming from. Simpson did not state this was a threat from the Russians, but that was the impression made upon OHR based upon the timing of the comment and using that story as a response to OHR's question. FB1(1Bcv2107)-B DEC LASSirIED OH 07-23-2019 BY: NS ICC I b6 -2 b7C -2 ------ - 1 of FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-lO) 1- ~ECRE1 1//QRMNINOEORN = FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 12/27/2016 Date of entry DRAFT DOCUMENT/DELIBERATIVEMATERIAL Do not disseminate outside the FBI without the permission of the originator or program manager. Bruce OHR, ____________________ _. currently the Associate Deputy Attorney General and Director of the Department of Justice's Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) was interviewed FBI Headquarters. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, OHR provided the following information: b6 -5 b7C -5 at ~ On December 20, 2016, at 11:00 A.M. OHR provided writer with an 8GB SanDisk Cruzer Glide USB micro digital data storage drive (thumb drive}. Glen Simpson at Fusion GPS hired OHR's wife, Nellie Ohr, to conduct research for his firm. OHR voluntarily provided his wife's research to the FBI. OHR provided the interviewing Agent with the thumb it contained the totality of the work Nellie Ohr drive and indicated conducted for Simpson, but the Fusion GPS header was stripped. Nellie Ohr is a Russian linguist/analyst and a former Russian History professor. The thumb drive was entered into evidence. lnvcstigatjonon12/20/2016 File J by,_1 ______ at Washington, I District __._, ___________________________ Of Columbia, United States Date drafted {In Person) 12/20/2016 _ b3 -1 b6 -2 b7C -2 b7E -1 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to bedistributed ou(sidc your agency. FBI(18cv2107)-9 !_____ _. □Ee u;ssrnE□ BY: us rec .. OH 07-23-2019 b6 -2 b7C -2 - 1 of FD-302 (Rev. 5-&-l O) 0FFIQJ.tt,L 2 - RECORD :;lo;or•·~,1 11'>'11~~1';,,;~r.~.,;,,.....,1•1~7 i ~~~ ~ ) ,i-~-3 .. ,:, ,;i,y ., •-r'I~~ f-f:11 .,~, ... ~,~ S)'11~•, ~ECBt5'//cneort1N6roRl_[ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 02/15/2017 Date of entry Do not disseminate manager. outside DRAFT DOCUMENT/DELIBERATIVE MATERIAL the FBI without the permission of the originator ~ or program b6 -5 b7C -5 current l y the Bruce OHR, Associate Deputy Attorney General and Director of the Department of Justice's Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force {OCDETF) was interviewed at FBI Headquarters, 935 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington, DC. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Special Agents and the nature of the interview, OHR provided the following information: -·u: ' --------------------- ~ ~ 1 WhatsApp OHR stated OHR responded and he had been contacted by Christopher via FaceTime on 02/11/2017. Steele, via b6 ~ Steele advised OHR that! OHR addect._l ___________________ .'TJ) ' -1, 4 b7C -1, b7D -2 4 ___, ..--""""";;..L_]-_'12_~J;!!J.F Ste e 1 e ' s com pa n,.....y ___ i_s___c_o_n_t __i_n_u_i_n_g...__t_o __w ___ o_r_k ___f_o_r ........ b_o ___ t_h_!.__.._---I . _____ business ......,another attorney for~I--------------------~ However, OHR explained Steele and was preparing a ._______________ relationship in a couple with the of weeks.' FBI. Steele ~ OHR responded be provided with an FBI he calming a bit I to ask I down and 02/14/2017 ,..I_._ _______ File# by yet OHR, 'You to worry __,to broker may see Steele if he about his a business me re-emerge would like I OHR also advised was doing fine, but "freaked out." Howe~v_e_r_,-i~t--s-e_e_m_e_d~toSteele that things he was pleased about ~CRET/ lnvcstigationon had beginning at b6 -1, b7C -1, b7A -1 b7E -2, to 3, 3, 4 4 3 contact. ~ still advised is Washington, a recent CNN article that were were stated U.S. /C.teOll / frnFO~ District Of Columbia, .,.... _________________________ United States _ Date drafted (In 02 Person) /15/201 7 b3 b6 b7C b7E -1 -2 -2 -1 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the ¥Bl and is loaned ,o your agency; it and its contents are not to b£ distributed outside your agency. FBI(18cv2107)-16 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) b3 -1 b7E -1 -~ Interview Febr.uary 2Ql 7 . GovernmenE inveoEigaEiono Continuatio1WJfFD-302of of ~ad Bruce Ohr confirmed 14 some of On tne 02/14/~0l reporEing 7 . Pal!,e. ih 2 of ni----- 2 dossier. FB1(1Bcv2107)-17 DEC LASSirIED OH 07-23-2019 BY: NS ICC I _____ b6 -2 b7C -2 __. - 1 of FD-302 (Rev. 5-8- \0) 2- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry ~ SAi 05/10/2017 b6 -2, -5 b7C -2, -5 on 5/8/2017, land ssAj interviewed BRUCE OHR, currently the Associate Deputy Attorney General and Director of the Department of Justice's Oiganized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) at FBI 601 4th Street, Washington, DC. After being Washington Field Office, advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, OHR provided the following information: I ~ OHR and iU:i STEELE communicated at 8:00 for 5/3/2017 arranged a call was good. STEELE had been worried about Director Corney's upcoming to congress, especially his response to questions that would be testimony STEELE was specifically concerned raised by Representative Grassley. about anything Director Corney would say STEELE was happy with Director C._o_m_e_y_'_s_r_e_s_p_o_n_s_e __________ _. ..____ ___.I ' In 'U') ! via text message in WhatsApp and AM. STEELE told OHR that business ~ /ijJ ' I a previous STEELE had conversation, (~ STEELE informed OHR that the disclosure more narrow than in the United States and therefore STEELE cited specifically testify before Congress. from! 'U' 1 ) 1 ' ,....;=-================::;----"'.""""--was working Investigation on with 05/08/2017 file# ..-!========;i"""'" by _________ At the expressed concern b3 -1 b6 -4 b7C -4 b7D -2 for laws in the UK were limited his ability that he was restricted to I and time had been on the of the interview, b6 -1, 4 b7C -1, 4 b7D -2 staff .-----. the at Washington, Person) District _________________ .._ ___________________________________ Of Columbia, United States (In _ Datedrafted O5/08/2017 _ This documentcontainsneither recommendationsnor conclusionsof the FBI. II is the propertyof the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contentsare not b3 -1 b6 -2 b7C -2 b7E -1 to be distribu!Cd outside your agency. FBI(18cv2107)-18 FD-302a (Rev. 05-08-10) ~------,.---___.I . ~ Interview b3 -1 b7E -1 of Bruce Ohr 8 May Continuation of FD-302 of 2 O1 7 , On ----------------------- .~GLENN soon and were ~JONATHAN in SIMPSON of the process !would FUSION-GPS andl of "lawyering_u_p_'_'-(N-FI). WINER was bringing .~ STEELE was additional information 05/08 __ 1_2_0_1_7 __ interested if the over a letter in working with FBI was interested. the , Page be visiting separately FBI and 2 of STEELE (NFI) . had 2 b6 -1 b7C -1 CECLASSEIEC B'.i: b6 -2 b7C -2 NSICG OH 07-23-2019 - l of FD-302 (Rev 5-8-10) 1- RECORD OFFICIAL -~•: ... ~,.,: " '"'' --~• ;~ i,,,;,, •~!'••~~ Y,:O'•••I I .:y\::~-~;,;.·~-~~·,~~-•I~·-,),:;,; ~,:,I -~-------) =SECRE'i' // QRS?N/NOE'O~ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 05/12/2017 Date of entry ~ interviewed On 5/12/2017, BRUCE OHR, SA! I"'! ___ !and SSA! ....._ ________________ -,.._c_u_r_r_e_n...Jtl y the Associate Deputy Attorney General and Director of the Department of Justice's Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) at FBI Washington Field Office, 601 4th Street, Washington, DC. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, OHR provided the following information: b6 -2, -5 b7C -2, -5 ~ Tuesday 'U'I , I I STEELE sent OHR a text message in WhatsApp some time around and they set up a call via WhatsApp for Wednesday 2:00 PM EST. ~ that he {SIC). 1. 2. 3. had The Had STEELE provided information What was the scope of STEELE's Did STEELE have any additional i{TJ ~ the Over the course of their telephone call, STEELE informed received a letter from the Senate Intelligence Committee letter requested answers to the following questions: STEELE mentioned SIC to the US Government? investigation? information to provide? was considering sending staffers to UK. ~! Ji that OHR to have a conversation along the message. !requested that OHR ask STEELE with FBI agents in the UK. SEC lnvcsti alion on 05/12/2017 Fi at Washington, Person) b6 -2 b7C -2 if he would be willing OHR agreed to pass RN District 1----------------------- Of Columbia, United States Datedrafted (In 05 / 12/2017 bl....-------------------------------------------This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the l'B!. It is the property of the FBIand is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not b3 -1 b6 -2 b7C -2 b7E -1 to be distributed outside your agency. FBI(18cv2107)-20 DECLASSIFIED BY. NSICG CN 07-Z3-2019 I ______ ._ b6 -2 b7C -2 _. - 1 of fD-302 (Rev. 5-8- IO) 1- RECORD OFFICIAL ij CNv ~,•1flrc'li~r.,,I.'"~ ~~~" 1:-;,,.io·, ~ ;.,r-r. Al: ~~~1~r,:'\ •he bfT• .~•-',r.11 ~Y ,, : ,·,•I~ F~ •·~,~-,~l.:.r j'r-l~·•1 • FORN FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION _o_s_;_1_6_/2_0_1_7_b 6 _2 , _5 Date of entry b7C -2, (U) ~ On I -5 I ss~ 5/15/2017, SA land interviewed BRUCE OHR, !currently the Associate Deputy Attorney General and Director of the Department of Justice's Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) at FBI Washington Field Office, 601 4th Street, Washington, DC. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, OHR provided the following information: (U) I ~ CHRISTOPHER STEELE sent around Friday, 5/12/2017. The two at 9:00 AM EST. OHR a text message via set up a call in WhatsApp WhatsApp for on or Saturday ~ Per b6 -1 b7C -1 FBI's previous request, OHR asked STEELE if he would be willing to meet with FBI agents. STEELE responded that the answer was an immediate yes but that he would need to check withl OHR was clear that this wo._u....,.r-a ...... b-e--n-o~t~h ...... l~O-g_m_o_r_e_ ...... than a conversation ~ conversation ' 'U'' \ I with the STEELE informed between! FBI and OHR that STEELE said he had information him talking ~ regarding a response. to SSAI FBI agents lnvesf1g•1ioo on 05/l5/201 7 the Washington, Person) alrigh regarding t . a at 9:45 AM on Monday, 5/15 were both ok b6 -1, 2 b7C -1, 2 he would communicate with headquar t ers STEELE and let him know when he received District Of Columbia, _:1 ____________________ l'ilel""#..J.,._L."'_""_ ... _... _ ... _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-..,-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ ... by.__l_____ be FBI. ltold OHR that meeting with a1 would ! ~ STEELE contacted OHR via Whatsapp /2017. STEELE said that ___________________ with that ___.__________________________ United States Date drafted b3 -1 (In 05/iS/20 b6 -2 b7C -2 17 b7E -1 _ This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the propeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents arc not to be distribute-0outside your agency. FBI(18cv2107)-21 Why has the NRA been cozying up to Russia? < ',l!.. -- --,_-____ --~~?i::!Ii:I:I:IlII::Ii::> Througholll" the 2016 president:i;d eampaig11, there was a steady stream of stories published abotJl Donald Trump, his sceond carnpaign m,urnger, his snpporl"ers at \-\!ildkaks, antl tlu~ tks they apJW,fff..'dto han,: to Ru,;sian President- Vladimir Putin and the Rm,simi Federation. Reporting also highlighted that, more than any other national org:n1i:1.:1tio11, the Nation,1l Rlfle Associatiun (NRA) went all-in to elect Trump, httJ):;:iith i nk1)rot!r('.ss.on:inra-aurn-c, but they disct:$:-thcrtht'. wbok ,,1rrangcnH'nt\s a COV('t' for a larger effort- to und<.irmi11tiArnerican sanctions against Russia, A meeting in Moscow On fkcember ll, 2015, in tlw depths of a biting :vloscow \~·inter,Th(! Ri}~ht to B1.,arArms hosled a delegation from its A1n<;;ricm1 c.·ounl<.irparl', lbc NRA. Dadd Keene, an NRA board member and rornicr n,,ttinnal president of the organiwhon, flev; lo Rm,sia to attend the eY,inL Also at tbnt meeting ·were NRA First Vice President Pete Hrowndl, CEO of the world's htrf\l'Sl fire,mn ncccs.sories supplier; NRA funder Dr. Arnold Go!dseh!agcr and his d,tught(•r. N R.:\ \Vo men·!->L<.•adership Forum executive committee Hilary Goldschalger; ,ind Outdoor member Life th,rnrwl hc,1d .Jim Liber,itore. Perh,qJs t!w most fom(ius guc~t al the gathering, trading his cuslornary unil'onn fur a h!ack kntlwr vtst over a huu.on-down shirt, w;is ~-tilw,mkee County Shcdff nnd Fox Ne\vs regular David A Clarke. i1ttp:-;:i/ihinkprogr~s~;.org/nrn-nnd-rnssian-cousin- l 81607d,~0?40 \Vhy has !hi.,:NRA been ~·01.yingup io Russia? Clarke said little publicly ahout the en•nl. Two weeks earlier, his crffic(~put out a ,·ague prt'.$S release noting lhal he wr.wkl "travd lo the \-liddlc East ,ind A.sia beginning Novcrn!K•r 28, 2015 and rd:urning Dtt('mber 1:3.2015," incloding that he'd "receive briefings on is~ucs facing those regions and vis.it historic sites.·· Bul t!tt.'l\til~\•mtkee,Journal Sentinel's Cbrlie's ,January 2016 ethics dbdusure Daniel Bke noticed tb,lt filing shed some light on tk trip. 1\Ht one w·,)s$20,15: 1 trip to Israel, paid for by the NRA Ring of Freedom. During his ~veek--plusof travel t!wre, he did a rmnot:e intervie\,,from rby Brownell; his $6000 ,vorth of meals, hotcJ, trnnsportation, and excursions \Vere provided by the "All- R1.1s;;iaPublic OrganizMion 'The:·.Right to Bear Arms."' Cl.1rke's oi1ke (hidined to release any records !o Bice aboul the trip, the r(•porU.!r \Vrote, "saying it was ptirsonal ····not official···· tr,weL i'.vt'n thnHgh personal trips (a.k.a. vacations) are not· supposed to be listed on t!Ki dhics form." Al that confi::rencc, according lo a post on lhc Right to Bear Anns' Fncehuok page, in mJdilhm to group's chairman and founckr !viaria hnps://thinkprogrcs:,.orginrn-and-russian-cousin- l 8f607d.:l0240 1:::FSJt:4~2107)-24 \\'hy has the NRA been cozying up lo Russia? Page 4 of 13 Butina, a \\'ekoming speed1 ,vas d,divered by honorary member of Tlw Right to lk>,ir Anns Alexander Torshin, The Godfather and the Godmother? !'-!aria Butina gn.:1,·up in Altai. a mountainous HtT;J in sout·ht~rn Siberia, hut HH>\-'('d to J\foseow when she was 22. Alnio:it overnight, she gnining notice as the km nder mid chair of Russia's gun-rigb ls movernenL Reportedly a strong support{~r of Putin and hit, United Rtw~L1 Party, she helped start The Right to Bear Anns about five years ago ~1sa non-•prnfit organiz,1tion. The group, she vowed, \·\'Ould not he a front frir "nny bloody lobby" and would be funded through d.w.:s from members. "l persr,nally have a furniture and hom,ehold ;1ppliann:.•s huslncss," sht' told Russian nti-...-spapcr L',\\'Stia. "People \\•ho give us money for \\·ork, they are mmal gun O\'>'Jiers because 10 have a gun in Russia b very txpcnsivc. So thesi.• people, they hav(~ money nnd they give us money," Butina cxpbirn:.-d in a 2014 interview with Tov,nh;.ill's Katie Pavli<.'h,··wl>. lwve no mone_v from governnwnt, not one coin from government." The group now dairm, 10,000 member.,;. Thm1gh Ru%fo';, ('p,:irtidpation, calling him "the i;,,nner president of lhe legendary '.\'RA." Slw chaired the event, Torshin anended, and Keene spoke, Keene posred ;i picture of his visit wilh Tor;;hin on his personal \V<.>bsite and sk1n:d it on Facebook, \Vceks aft-er the conference, BHtina explained in a Live.Journal pos! that jnst because a foreign citizen is an NRA member, that doc1-,no! ' ncces~an ··1y mean trn;:y arc a spy. TnApril or:1014, But-ina traveled lndian,ipolis, orgnnizatfon's to the N RA's ,umua 1 meeting in She wns given the "rare privilege" of ringing the rcplka of the Liberty Bell and Jm~sentcd a plaque !n NRA President ,fan Porter, She attended a ,voinen's luncheon as the guest of former NRA Presidtnt Sandy Frc,mnn and partidpatt"d in !!K gener,11 meeting as Keene's SJ.hitiai guesL lt1s~0,;i t~ .:::1::;:-,tlr /·•· ...· ~ .·.·-:::: : . . i.: @~ : tf~x··.---- ~(::~ Buhna hlogged about her trip, nohng that she was invited to sp(!ak at 1.lwt~xclusivt! Ring of Frc('dom dimll!I' \Vith "tbc patron,; ,vbo donated" more than S 1 million to the NRA. Before kaving the coonlry, she stopped by the c,rganization\ nulionai be:.idqunrters in Fairf.n:., Virginia, aud pused fol' ;.1 picture with Keene. Butin,1 returned the following April for the annual con1...-entionin Nash~'ille. She rnan'ekd about winning a ncddacc and earrings ul lhc silcn l a1tctlon, atte:._•nd ing tiw wonien··Only NRA wom(•n's forum, and ,1bout the lack of democr.1cy in decision-making. ''ln spite of all cfomo(·.r;1(:y.foreigners, even if the men1hers of the NRA, can nol vote for the adoption of decisions," sbc observed, noting that. at The Right to gear Arms, ··we nwinh1in dired democratic clecti(ms. In my opinion, a::-:the founder of tbe orgnnizatinn, it is morn foir to the hltp'.,:/:ihink pruµress. org/ma-:md-russi atH.:ousin- I 8f607d40240 l '.FIBt€itltv2107)-29 \VhY h,1s th,· NRA hecn ,:ozying up to Russia? Torshin alkrnkd the l\Jay 2016 convention in Louisvilk•. Kentucky, rn,.:ctin;\ with Trump and (•vcn slHu·ing ~t table with Donald Trnmp Jr. :Jt O!W iif t! t(• dinners. The Right to lkHr Ann$ lws a ways to go before they can de\·(•lop tlt<.• outsizcd kvd of influence ih American counterpart (•njoys. But. in ',?CH.:!,it sU/.'(:essfolly ('n;wineed the Russian pnrlhirnent to pass n caslk· doctrine hill. Butina ha1,;talked a great deal about bringing the NRA's srn·ccssfol programs, like !!t(' group's Eddie Eagle curriculum for kids. tu RussirL A hidden purpose? Butinn'1>interests appear to go beyond just guns. She frequently writes about her opJH)Sition to Nionomic sanctions by th1:.i we:s;t, inch1din~ th>sc on Russian arms. In a 20l5 artkk\ for The National Inlcrc$t, she wTot.c, "It may take the deetion of a Republkan to the Whi!c House in 2016 to improve relations between the Rllssbn FNit:1\1tion and the l.hiikd Stales." Not long after Butina's 2014 visit, tfw NRA put out a little-noticed statt.~mcnl criticizing the Oharnn admini~:tnitipen nwel'ing." !n :~ntti, But.inn tr:wr:k•d around c<)untry following Rcpnh!icnn rm:.•;;idi:.~ntial c,mdkbtcs, nnnoutlt'('lll(:nt. She attended Cov. Scolt Walker's (R-\.Vl) speed, in \V.:n.1kc:-;ha,\Vi::;tonsin. As an m1dk·nce member a Trump campaign event. in Las Vegas, she a1,kcd the ,·an(licbtc ,\bout santtions ,md his conmiitme11t-to lift l"lwrnif electr.-d. ,Josh Horwitz, <::xecutive director of t!K· Coalition to Stop Gl1l, Vi(1kntt.:, told ThinkPn:_igres:,; tlrnt U.S.-Russinn N:t>n(nnic ties, r~ith,:_ir than gun rights, could be the red aim of The Righl to Bear Arms. "I think the import.ant thing is all those involved with this are close ,vit!1 Putin. If Putin \\'anted mrn-i.'guns in Russia, he d(JCSn't need t<.i dcvdop an NRA in Russia lo push him,'' he observed. "'\'\'hat are the NRA officials doing cavorting around ,vith peopk <:fose to Putin? Th('. NRA says they're th(• n,llion's oldest civil ri)!,hls group. I i.'.UHldsee them hdng in line with dissi(knts in Russi,1, whu are ont i:if pot-.'er, di~(·riminated against, and snh.iugaled hy !hi.' Russian grJv(•nim<.int, .. he continued. "But the idea that the NRA is running ,HTHmdwii-!1someone ,vho i~ basic,dly a dktntor··--tlu.i question is v,·hy. The rn:(>pk 11(:'srunning around wirli ,ire all about removing sanctions on drilling and other things.! think this is more about t~dting om tf> the American Right tlH.i Yicw8 about lifting the i,an(tions than anything ,1buut gun rights." .fosh Sugarrn,mn, ,:_•xccutivediredor of the Violence Policy C rnnge .K, dur .i.nq E'LYNNdescribed the Russians as very appreciative of his ~1ring this trip to Russia as DIA Director, FLYNN first met the then~GRU Director Igor SERGUN. Following the trip, FLYNN and SERGUN continued their relationship on at least one occasion through video teleconference (VTC) and were planning a visit for SERGUN to P.us.s .i.a j_r!\l.?,.(jed travel to the United States on February 28, 2011. Crimea in the weeks prior to SERGUN's planned trip, SERGUN's trip v,12;5 c2rncel led, and FLYNN had no furl·.her conl·.act ~.. i th the CRU Direcl-.or. FLYNN described SERGUN as havinq common qround with FLYNN in that they had similar and they had a connection backgro11nds, in fighting their sons terrorism. from Chechnya and they shared stories about stated he called Ambassador I"-~""}."\~~)"X-~ . .. vC:.l.!!lUen:... [was] •• .•• ,. y· ·,: r .: 0e.,.v.l'---, r~ ~ unbelievable," his second J· ~~ .,...: '~ t'"" ·' "'iy C! d .1cv. J___..._.eJ.v ..... of trip tc Russia, .. .,..-~ . 1---· ..... ., . ... s .... , TTlu ...... 1 ,_.,ress l l t'"" As background, f':ig, 2 cf 5 ccmdolences, SERGUN as someone the U.S. could work with. really par.-t of l·.he TRUMP c,,m1p2;1qn al·. the tirne KISL'fAE. f~~,,-. ;'''~'''''''''~'~.... ~ ~ ~ n~ ? , Ml"H~ Fl.YtJl'-l stat,:?d thi,-,, call after .. -;:, l-• •• vL\..-. he left ~ .,..-~ r .. lL.,.-.,.l C! r •. l-• FLYNN explained l·.o 1,. -;:, l-• (..LLvL that TJ. !:~. Jf .: .lLl-• he was never paid directly by media entities, however, he had been a contributor to a variety of medi.a entiti.es includinq Al Jazeera, Ru,-,,sia Today (RT), Sky, and MSNBC. FLYNN received ci x:eque::-:'t from his spcakr;rs burcc,u, LeadingAuthor i tics ( LAI) , to spr;ak <',bout Middle East issues at the RT 10th Anniversary reception in Moscow. FLYNN was paid fer the speech by LAI. FLYNN did not know from whom LAI received payment. FLYNN met with KISLYAK at the Russian Amt1a.s sad() .r l s .res i cier1ce r1ex t t <) t.J:1.eUn..i.-.:..;re _rs.i.t. ii c:1 urJ fJ.r.i.c11~tc1 tr: .i.s td.p to Russ.ia, The visit vvas a courtesy ca.U to U,e Ambassado.r prior to his trip, and FLYNN took his son with him to The meeting occurred in the mid-afternoon. In addition, received a DIA threat briefingprior to the travel. c'TT\ ,i., ~,,,,._ I~::':'~'~'~ Pric:r ~ tc: tl1e Presiciential ~ : tl.1'1''t''t~'ie repr-2senta ti ves in ,:?ach of ~\ -,., , 14.._Jt ~ governments. Russia, in FLYNN stated that. FLY/.\JNhad the only substantive ir1a1-1gL1ratic)r1, approximately exception to conversations this meetinq. FLYNN FLYi~I\l sp4~k-2 t~J thirty crn..1ntr i ,:?s' that p.ractice only v·Jith v·✓ as KTSLY,AK, and no other member::-:' of the Goveu1rnent of Fus,';; ia. FLYNN',<;; intere::-:'t in Ru,-,,sia ,,,1,,1s a:;; a common partner in the war on l·.eLn.n. FL"fNN docs not know if PUTIN and TRUMP will qr;t alonq, but it is FLYNN's job to fiqurc out paths to 1.aJork with Russia to fig-ht terrorism. FLYNN named the primary threats to the U.S. as the ''four pl us on-2:" China, Russia, Iran, North Korea and. ISIS. FLYNN stated. if the U.S. could neutralize one of the four, or even better, leverage their terrorism, ~ that cooper would at icm fighting be a success a co1mnon enemy for U.S. national such as security. .................................................. ~ H //I:::'l! Sometime prior to Christmas, 2016, the Russian Arrtbc:',ssador - t5""I'l1Y'l(ev was assc:',ssinatcd. FLYNN called KISYLAE the next day to say he was sorry and tc reinforce that terrorism was our ccm....,non prot,lem. FLYNN noted. that it was a short call, and "that was it." ~ ~ On Christmas Day, a Russian military plane crashed and killed all on USO;" :lt board to include what was the equivalent co the ''Russian Weis the ,-,,2;me Ru:3::-:'ian cho.ir_· l·.h2;t ,-:'crnq cit the RT event· .. FLYNN called ',•Ja :3 to try to r:eep KI S':-t:"LAEto pa :3,-:' hi,-,, condo 1 ence::-:', a,-,,hi,-,, intent·. the H;laticmship with KISL"fAE going. FLYNN expanded that he nas no partic11lar affinity for Russia, but that KISLYAK was his "'"'""'"'"""'""'"'"""''"' / /O~COM/MOFOra~ ,,..,..,,..,..,,,,,,, .... ,,,,, .... ,,,,, ..... ,..,,,,,,, ..,........ ,..,.... ,..,......... ,..,,,,,,,,, ...* -1 b7E -1 ,, .... ,,, ... ,, .............................. ,...... ,.............................. ,... ,,,,,,,J 17-cv-397-2 ""'"""""""'""""""""""'"" //OROOU/MO!'O~ ...,,,,...,,.............................. ,...... , .............................. ,...... , ............... ,,~ Ol/2tJ/2017 ------· counterJart, governments ~~-._.,!I.~,\ ' ,. I j . i ··~ '1~ and maintaining is important. trusted relationships within f':ig, 3 cf 5 b3 -1 b7E -1 foreign -:=..._ . .,,,.. ,.-,. - .,,,..• ,., . ..., ,., /~I 1 .,:_ ,:-ht)r,.ly ~ a1.:..c.1. ,,11.1.L:;l:Iltc),;,2 ._ --· FLYNN took cl vacation to the: ·• • • . . . ... Dttu.'fLt'an Republic with his w1:te. On De,:em!::,er 28th, KISYLAI< sent FLYNN a text stating, "Can you call me?" FLYNN noted cellular reception was poor and he was not checking his phone regularly, and consequently did not see the text until approximately 21 hours later. Upon :3eeing the text, FLYNN re:,;ponded tha [·_he would cal 1 in 15-20 mi.nutes, and he and KISLYAK subsequently spoke. The Dominican Republic was one hour ahead of the time in Washington, D.C. During the Cell l, KISYLAE askr;d !i"L'fNNto set-up a V'I'C beti.,,;;een President-elect TRlMP and Russian President PUTIN on January 21st. In addition, FLYNN and KISLYAK discussed the U.S. sending an observer ta a terrorism conference in Astana, Kazakhstan, that would be attended by Russia, Turkey, Iran and Syrian opposition groups. ~ ... ,-..:ii,, '~'' !'"' -. T'" I • • ~ FT.:-'fI'-lt~stat eci t1e d 1,:J r10 t re srJc1r1,:J t)a.ck l\ I 3'{IlJ~I.K ab()1..1t. tr: e c<)tl t er er1c e t() until probably this week. FLYNN did not make the decision on who wouJd represent the U.S. until the 20th or 21st of January, and finally determined an observer from the U.S. Embassy in Astana would attend. FLYNN noted Russia wanted to take the lead for peace in the Middle East, but the U.S. needed ta be the leader, particularly to keep Turkey under the U.S. 'swing. FLYNN added there was a complete lack of engagement from the prior administration. ~,s / 'lJ Y:•\ l Th.e in. l-.e y_·V .i.e 11"J.i !1 c.·T a (~_~er1 ts (.:;. ,c_~ keel ~1I, ry_.j\!t'Ji f [1e -h acl a Tl ~)1 r-)t- her \~ ~~'';'~'~"~tail, or personal "rneetinq.';; with KIST.YAK or o~;her Ru::,;~~;::;r~~~!i"L'fNNvolunteered that after the election, he had a closed door rneetinq with I f'L YI,fI,J, f'L YI,fI,J clid r1c;t kr10\,,,1 ab<)"Ll t the Persona Non-Grata (PNG) action until it was in the media. KISLYAK and FLYNN were starting off on a good footing and FLYNN was looking forward to the relationship. With regard to the scope of the Russians who were expelled, FLYNN said he did not. understand .1tt Fil_y_-l\II'.J state(i. l'le cc1u.lci un.cierstar1(i. c1r1e PI\J(;, but r1<)t t:.h..1.rt:.·-:/~t111et ,,,... ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ...... !( //f:::·:i ~ ~ The: interviewing aqents asked FLYNN if he recalled anv --~Z5'V'c'TY!:''aticm 1.aJi th KISL'fAE in which I-,L->LYAJ:< told him the Government of Russia had taken into account the incoming administration's position about the expulsions, or where KISLYAK said the Government of Russia had responded, or chosen to modulate their response, in any way to the U.S. 's actions as a result of a requesc by the incominr;r administ.racion. FLYNN staled it. was possible chat he talked to ETSLY,n.K on l-.he i<-::'sue, but if FLYNN stated he was attemptinq he did, he did not remember to start a qood forward. FLYNN remembered makinq relationship with EISLYAK and move four to five calls that day about this issue, but that the Dominican Republic was a difficult place to make a call as he kept having connectivity issues. FLYNN reflected and stated he did not think he would have had a conversation with KISLYAK about the matt.er, as he did not. know the expulsions were coming. FLYNN stated he did not have a Jong drawn out discussion a:3ked him to "don't do somethinq." with KISLYAK """"""""""""""'""""'' ''O~COM 7'MOPORt~~ ...,,..,........,..,....,..,......,,..,..,,,,,,,....J,,,,,,...1,,,,,..,,,,,,,,,,,,....,,,,,....,,,,,..,,,,,,,,,,,, .... ,,,,,.... ,,,,,..,,,,,,,,,,,, ...' where he would have 17-cv-397-5 b3 -1 b7E -1 DEC LASSirIED OH 0'5-17-2019 BY: NS ICC b6 """"'"""""""'"""""""'"""'" ( { I ; ; 0!(:Cet'Q'; NOE 0~ 1'..'-''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''~ -1 ~ ' FEDERAL BUREAU Of INVF.STIGATJON 'U'' ·. ; I ~7tIP)1 On January 24, 2017, Deputy 1\ssistant Dir-2ctcr (DAD) Fet,'"r \r;""'ST''l'".?.~)k II and ___________ __. interviewed United States (D. :3.) National Secu.rity .Advisor Michael T. FLYNN, date o.i' birth (DOB) at his office at the White House. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, FLYNN provided the following information: b6 -1,-2 b7C -1,-2 i'ij1 ' < During the first DIA Director to be invited to GRU headquarters. that four day trip in 2013, he participated in a leadership development program at GRU (Russian Military Intelligence) headquarter~-'. FLYNN received proper authori.zati.on withi.n the U.S. EL"fNN could not recall if Government prior to conducting the trip. he, met Russia's .i'\mbassador to the United ~>tatc,s, ~>erqc,y Ivanovich KISLYAK, during this trip. FLYNN described the Russians as very appreciative of his visit. During this trip ta Russia as DIA Di rector, FLY1.\l"N .i'i rst met U,e U,en-GRD Di 1~ector Igo.r :3ERGTJN. Follov,in9 the trip, FLYNN and SERGUN cont.inued U,eir relationship on at least one occasion throur_;rh video teleconference IVTC) and were planning a visit for SERGUN to travel to the United States on February 28, 2014. Russia invaded Crimea in the weeks prior to SERGUN's planned trip, SERGUN's trip was cancelled, and E'L"fNNhad no further contact with the GRU Director. FLYNN des er ibed SERGTJNas having COlTl.17:"LOn ground with FLYNN in that th,'"y had similar backgrounds, their sens were the same age, and they had a connection in .i'ightin9 terrorism. SERGDN had scars from Chechnya and they shared stories about Afghanist.?-n. FLYNN stated he cal 1 ed Amba:-,:sador.· KJSLYA't'~ follow:inq SEFGUN':-,: death .in Lebanon ear.·ly la:3t year to express his condolences. E'LYNNdescribed SERGUN as someone FLYNN said he 1.A/as not really part of the the u.:-3. could work with. TRlMP campaign at the time of this call to KISLYAK . , ,, ,, , , ,, ,, ............................................................................ ...................... .......... ................... '-;. ~ ~ · 1._4 (b)~--------~==~=~ ~ ~,,,~;::~\)'~')" ~ ~,~... ,, .... ,{(,,, .... ,~ .... t«: b"'"""" le ..... ~ ,,..ECRET//ORCON/!~ % ,,,........ ,......................................... ,........ ,......................................... ,........ ,......................................... ,........ ,......................................... ,..., $ Wa~:hinqton, hk # ,.....J'"--------t-----------------------STRZOK PETER P II D1str:.i.ct; Of CoJ.umb:ia, United Stat;e;; Dat.cdran-.:d ( In () :I/.:?.4 / 2 G1 ·;, 17-cv-397-6 T~~!:;drn:um~mc,Jntat!)$neither hXommcc!datious!~Or <.:(Htt:h:.;;l(H~S of 1bc FB!. i1 is 1bc p!·opc.:11y of th~ i~BI o:::~d is !onucd ~oyour igcc!cy: ii aud i!s contc!H~nrc no! lo he dis~nbulc. FLYNN stated if the U.S. could neutrali z e one of the four, or even better, leverage their cooperation fighting a common enemy such as terrorism, that would be a success for U.S. national securitv. ~,. 1 + ' . t·._.v ... •~LlLJ.S._.L1as, t· ·, . 2.. ',,.-.L'-), ', 1 ,.· t·... .ll.....p F . " b assaocn~ ., oome.~1.me p.,.lv.t -a:u.ss.1an 1--.m 1 )~,~)""'t'TY'r"R ey w2;5 as5a:::sinated. FLYNN caJ.led ETSYL ,AK the nexl·. day to say he was sorry and to reinforce that terrori."im was our common problem. it." On Christmas Day, a Russian military plane crashed and killed ·' • , I •,d .I"""< all on board USO;" it was event. was to y• • ... ' .........1, ....... ' to includ,'" what the sam,'" Russian ... was the equivalent choir that san9 to the "Russian at the RT FLYNN cal:led KISYLAK to pass his condolences, as try to keep the reJationsh.i.p w.i.t.h KISLY.AK 90:ln9. expanded that he has no particular affinity KISLYAK was his counterpart, and maintaining within foreign governments is important. """""""'"""""""'"''' T//OR:COM/MO!"O~ ,,..,,..,..,,,,,,, .... ,,,,, .... ,,,,, ..,,,,,,,,,,,, .... ,,,,, .... ,,,,, ..,,,,,,,,,,,, ...* his intent FLYNN for Ru5sia, but that tru5ted relationships 17-cv-397-7 Gl/24/2017 ------· Chr.i.strn.as, ?016, FLYNN took 2; 3 cf f':ig, vacal· . .ion 5 b3 -1 b7E -1 to sent FLYNN 2, text Sv;,\.Lig, "Can you call me?" FLYNN noted cellular reception was poor and he was not checking his phone regularly, and consequently did not see the text until approximately 24 hours later. Upon seeing the text, FLYNN responded 15-.?.0 mi.nutes, and he and KISLYAJ, subsequently that he would spoke, The call 1n Dominican Republic was one hour ahead of the t.ime .in Washington, D. C. During the call, KISYLAK asked FLYNN to set-up a VTC between President-elect. TRlMP and Russian President. PUTIN on January 21st. In addition, !i'L'fNN and KISL'fAE diSCUSS(;d the U.S. sendingctn observer to a terrorism conference in Astana, Eazakhstan, that would be attended by Russia, Turkey, Iran and Syrian opposition groups. FLYNN stated he did not respond back to KISYLAK about the conference until probably this decision on who would represent FLYNN di.d not make the week. the U.S. until the .?.0th or .?.1st of January, and f.inaJly determined an observer from the U.S. Embassy .in Astana would attend. FLYNN noted Russia wanted to take the Jead for peace in the Middle East, but the U.S. needed to be the leader, pcuticularly to ki.';ep Turkey under the U.S. 's T.,Jinq. !i'L'fNN ad-:kd there was a complete lack of engagement from the prior t. acm1n1sc:ra l . - . ion. ~~~;,',~,~~,~ta ~~l~ :J:l ;~~,~a~:~~~:: :~:·~~~~A;~ 0 O ~~~:r t;:~ ;~~~:~;~~1gm=~~ri, .t' JJ;e any other Russians. FLYNN volunteered that after the eJection, he had a Closed door mr;etirq with KISYLAI< and Jared KUSHNER at Trump Tower in New York City. KISLYAI< was in New York to meet with his diplomats, and the three had a relatively sensitive meeting. FLYNN was a late addition to the meeting and did not participate in setting it up. FI,YNN believed the rneetinr; took place betore FLYNN explained that Thanksgivinr; but was unsure of the date. other meetings between the TRUMP team and various foreign countries took place prior to the .inauguration, and were sensitive inasmuch as many countries did not want the then-current. administration know abo11t them. There were no personal relationships between the leaders of many countrir;s and the prior administration. FLYNN stated that he and personnel from the incoming administration met with many countries "ta set expectations far them, and the expectations were set very interviewing surroundinq the issue hiJJh. agents of Israeli 11 asked FLYNN if he recalled Uri it ed l'-Jati <)rLS { UI\f} 'l_l(j t (l FLYNN quickly settlements. \ any 17-cv-397-8 ........................................................................................... b3 · · ::;~::-:;-;;-:;-::::;:-rt~:;::;;~~-,,ii.-·'~Jµ i·~u ~,,..,. f ~~'licha.el Fl,_,~nn :::: 'U'I C•.)!lllllUilll('ll ,l, ,.. ·-'"' 0 1' , ~-===~----------------- Gl/24/2017 . '0 H ------· : ' ' 4 cf 5 responded, "Yes 1 good reminder," On the 22nd of December, FLYNN called " Litany of crn.mtr.i.es l·.o include I:n2;eJ, the UK, Seneqal, Eqypt., maybe France and m2;ybe Ru::-osia/KISLYAK. Par.-t of l·.he .re2;.<;,on for FLYNN's calls was to conduct an exercise to see how fast the JiL'fNN iricoming admir1istration could get somc'~cme cm the line. likened it to a battle drill tc se,:? who th,:? administration could reach in a crisis. The exercise was conducted at the campaign's GSA t.ransiU.cm building cm J8th and I Streets N.W., v/nich FLYNN desc.c1.bed as a somewhat. chaot,.c environment.. FLYNN stated he conducted. these cal.1.::-o to aU·.empl·. to qet a .<;,ense of where countries stood on the UN vote, specifically, whether they jntend.ed to vote or ab:.=n:a1n. ,;U) ~~~-t:r;t The interviewing ,-ate- ir agents asked FLYNN if he made any request 1 1,: a !-· r-,a1·+-1·c•1J_:-,i..-L-e-r·,1~ c.u-...... -,-.t-1·or 1. f·T;v~., •~ . .....ct ...... ,r-· ',/l;d.~ 7 Or Lc.J':... c. _.1 ~,.. FLY1.\JNstated r,e did not. believe his caJ:ls t.o stated he did not. the v.?-rious count.d.es wou:ld change anytr1.ing. FLYNN recaJ:led there needed to be a ce.rt.2;in number of abstention vote.';, to alte.r the outcome, and that. having looked at the math at the time, he knew it FLYNN said 14 countries were voting, and could not be achieved. had a r ect) l l (!ct i <)ri of th(; 11:.11nt)er C>f f i 1.1e 'l(j t (! s b(; i rig· irr~p<)rtan t ~ I r1 the end, only the U.S. abstained. FLYNN stated his calls were about asking where countries would stand on a vote, not anv recp..1ests V"-f' '- I "hey if you do this." ~'~"~'"~"~"~l",T·' '-·l.. ... ,.l.1....11.J .....!. ....!.'\ +-r•, •~'-· I ....... 1 ;'U1 1 f':ig, ar1:y ccJrnrner1t < cic)~...:r1l-.[1e vote, or if KISLYAK described any Russian response co a request by FLYNN. along the lines cf where do you stand, and what's your position. FLYNN heard through other channels that Egypt did net like the vote, and believed the Egyptians of their own accord delayed the vote a day, FLYNN again stated that he app.reciat.ed the int.erviewjnq aqents rernindinq him that he had another conversation with KISL'Y.°AK. The interviewing agents asked FLYNN if he recalled any with KISLYAK surrounding the expulsion of Russian diplomats or closing of Russian properties in response tc Russian hacking act1vi Ues surround,ng the election. FLYNN stated that he d,d not.. FLYNN reite.rated his conversation was about the PUTIN /TRUMP VTC and l·.he ''Astan2; l·.hing'' ( l·.he Kazakhstan conference descrjbed earlier). 11pcoming actions as he did not have access to television news in """""""""""""""'w, //ORCOM/MePORt~ ,,..,,..,..,,,,,,, .... ,,,,, .... ,,,,, ..,,,,,,,,,,,, .... ,,,,, .... ,,,,, ..,,,,,,,,,,,, ...* -1 b7E -1 17-cv-397-9 '""'"""""""'""""""""""'"" //O~G@i /H9F9£RI~ , ...,,,,...,,.............................. ,...... , .............................. ,...,,,,,,,,,~ 'U1 ' ' Gl/24/2017 ------· the Dorninican RepubJic and his r;ove.rnrnent BJackBerry f':ig, 5 cf 5 b3 -1 b7E -1 was not. work.inq. :0: 1 ~ The, interviewing aqents asked FLYNN if he recalled anv conversation with KISLYAK in which the expulsions were discussed, where FLYNN might have encouraged KISLYAK not to escalate the situation, to keep the Russian response reciprocaJ, or not. to engage i.n a "tit.-to.r-tat.," FLYNN responded, "Not rea:ll.y, I don't remember:. response was a totaJ. surprise to FLYNN. FLYNN did not know about the Persona Non-Grata (PNG) action until it was in the media. KISLYAK and E'LYNN were starting off on a qood footing and FLYNN was looking forward to the relationship. With reqard to the scape of understand the it. Russians who were expelled, FLYNN said he did not FLYNN stated he could understand one PNG, but not interv:i 1.aJi th ew.inq KISLYAK agents asked FLYNN if which KISLYAK told he recalled any in him the Government of Russia had taken into account the incoming administration's position about the expulsions, or where KI:'3LYAK said the Covernment of Russia had responded, or chosen ta modulate their response, 1n any way to the U.S. 's actions as a result of a request by the incominr; administration. FLYNN stated i.t was possible that he talked to KISLY,AK cm the i.ssue, but if he did, he did not rernembe.r doinq .'oo. relation.';;h_ip FT./{J,fN stated. he was attemptinq w.ith KTSLY,AK and. move fon..:ard. to start a good f'T.,YJ,fN r.·em.ember ed. makinq four to five calls that day about this issue, but that the Dominican Republic was a difficult place to make a call as he kept having connectivity issues. FLYNN reflected and stated he did not think he would have had a conversation with KISLYAK about the FLYNN matter, as he did not know the expulsions were coming. wher:e he would have asked. him to "don't """""""""'"""""""'"'"~ //OR:COM/NO!'O~ do something." 17-cv-397-10 ............................................................................................ *