Case 2:19-cv-01717-RGK-AGR Document 171-48 Filed 02/20/20 Page 1 of 6 Page ID #:3634 Page 1 ·1· · · · · ·UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT ·2· · · · · CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA ·3 · · ·4· · · ·5· · · ·6· · · ·7· · · ·8· · · ·9 ·ALEX MORGAN, et al.,· · · · · ·) · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ) · · · · · · · · ·Plaintiff,· · ·) · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ) · · · · · · ·vs.· · · · · · · · ) 2:19-cv-01717-RGK-AGR · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ) ·UNITED STATES SOCCER· · · · · ·) ·FEDERATION, INC.,· · · · · · · ) · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ) · · · · · · · · ·Defendant.· · ·) ·-------------------------------) 10 11 12· · · · · · · ·DEPOSITION OF CARLI LLOYD 13· · · · · · · ·Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 14· · · · · · · ·Friday, December 20, 2019 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24· ·Reported by: · · ·FRANCIS X. FREDERICK, CSR, RPR, RMR 25· ·JOB NO. 172871 TSG Reporting - Worldwide· 877-702-9580 Case 2:19-cv-01717-RGK-AGR Document 171-48 Filed 02/20/20 Page 2 of 6 Page ID #:3635 Page 103 ·1· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·2· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And what do you mean that ·3· ·in the national team -- well, do you know what ·4· ·was meant about the statement that in the ·5· ·national team you only play against U16 boys ·6· ·team? ·7· · · · ·A.· · Yes.· I said it was hard to play ·8· ·against a very good U16 boys team, due to ·9· ·genetics of them being bigger, stronger and 10· ·faster. 11· · · · ·Q.· · All right.· You do play against 12· ·men at the Universal Soccer Academy, correct? 13· · · · ·A.· · I am currently training with, yes, 14· ·the U18 boys team. 15· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· All right.· Do any other 16· ·women train with that boys team? 17· · · · ·A.· · Yes.· Julie Ertz does as well. 18· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· All right. 19· · · · · · · ·Then let's take a look at the next 20· ·page.· The next exhibit. 21· · · · · · · ·(Lloyd Exhibit 15, e-mail dated 22· · · · ·August 31, 2015 bearing production 23· · · · ·numbers MORGAN_0048583 through 24· · · · ·MORGAN_0048586, marked for 25· · · · ·identification as of this date.) TSG Reporting - Worldwide· 877-702-9580 YVer1f Case 2:19-cv-01717-RGK-AGR Document 171-48 Filed 02/20/20 Page 3 of 6 Page ID #:3636 Page 104 ·1· ·BY MR. FINKEL: ·2· · · · ·Q.· · Showing you what's been marked as ·3· ·Exhibit 15.· After you've finished reviewing ·4· ·this can you let me know. ·5· · · · · · · ·(Document review.) ·6· · · · ·A.· · All right. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · All right.· You were asked the ·8· ·question -- question number 5, "The women's US ·9· ·soccer team has much more successes than the 10· ·men's team.· What do you think is the reason 11· ·for that?" 12· · · · · · · ·And you answered, "It's a 13· ·different game.· We have always been dominant 14· ·because of athleticism and fitness.· But the 15· ·world is catching up and the gap is closing on 16· ·us.· We now need to be more skillful and more 17· ·sophisticated with our play." 18· · · · · · · ·Is that how you answered that 19· ·question? 20· · · · ·A.· · I don't think I really technically 21· ·answered the question because I didn't think I 22· ·wanted to say that the men's team hasn't 23· ·really been too successful compared to us. 24· · · · ·Q.· · Well, what did you mean by it's a 25· ·different game? TSG Reporting - Worldwide· 877-702-9580 YVer1f Case 2:19-cv-01717-RGK-AGR Document 171-48 Filed 02/20/20 Page 4 of 6 Page ID #:3637 Page 105 ·1· · · · ·A.· · It's different.· Men's -- it's ·2· ·different in the sense that men are bigger, ·3· ·stronger, faster.· That's their makeup. ·4· ·There's no -- there's no denying science in ·5· ·that regard.· If you take those factors away, ·6· ·currently I'm playing with the U18 boys team. ·7· ·They're challenging me.· It's good for me. ·8· ·It's good for my game.· But I am the most ·9· ·skillful player there.· So if you take their 10· ·speed and athleticism and their strength away, 11· ·it's the same game. 12· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· And is that the U18 -- the 13· ·U18 boys team that you're training with, is 14· ·that a national team? 15· · · · ·A.· · No, it's an academy team. 16· · · · ·Q.· · What's an academy team? 17· · · · ·A.· · It's just the Medford Strikers 18· ·academy team. 19· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· So it's a local team made 20· ·up of some good players, right? 21· · · · ·A.· · Yeah.· It's just U18 boys. 22· · · · ·Q.· · All the players are from the 23· ·Medford, New Jersey area? 24· · · · ·A.· · I don't know.· I don't know where 25· ·they're from.· I just show up and train. TSG Reporting - Worldwide· 877-702-9580 YVer1f Case 2:19-cv-01717-RGK-AGR Document 171-48 Filed 02/20/20 Page 5 of 6 Page ID #:3638 Page 106 ·1· ·They're from all over. ·2· · · · ·Q.· · Do you know if they draw players ·3· ·nationally? ·4· · · · ·A.· · What do you mean? ·5· · · · ·Q.· · Well, does that team include ·6· ·anyone from outside the New Jersey or greater ·7· ·Philadelphia area? ·8· · · · · · · ·MS. SPANGLER:· Objection.· Calls ·9· · · · ·for speculation. 10· · · · ·A.· · I show up and train.· I'm not 11· ·sure. 12· · · · ·Q.· · In other words, you don't know. 13· · · · ·A.· · They could be from PA.· They could 14· ·be from Delaware.· I have no idea. 15· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· All right. 16· · · · · · · ·And the next question was -- is 17· ·number 6.· And it says "The men's world 18· ·champions are Germany.· If an exhibition game 19· ·was to be held between the USA women's team 20· ·and the Germany men's team, what would be the 21· ·score like, in your opinion?· Is there a 22· ·monumental difference between women's and 23· ·men's soccer or would you be able to compete 24· ·well with them?" 25· · · · · · · ·And you answered, "It would be TSG Reporting - Worldwide· 877-702-9580 YVer1f Case 2:19-cv-01717-RGK-AGR Document 171-48 Filed 02/20/20 Page 6 of 6 Page ID #:3639 Page 107 ·1· ·extremely hard to play against Germany.· Men ·2· ·are faster and stronger.· We often play ·3· ·against U16 boys teams and that is about as ·4· ·old as we can go." ·5· · · · · · · ·I read that correctly, right? ·6· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·7· · · · ·Q.· · That was the answer you gave? ·8· · · · ·A.· · Yes. ·9· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· Looks like you -- you know, 10· ·you said it would be extremely hard to play 11· ·against Germany.· You were asked what would, 12· ·in your opinion, the score would be. 13· · · · · · · ·Do you have an opinion on what the 14· ·score would be? 15· · · · ·A.· · I have no idea. 16· · · · ·Q.· · Okay.· All right. 17· · · · · · · ·Do you think the Women's National 18· ·Team could beat the German men's team? 19· · · · ·A.· · I'm not sure. 20· · · · ·Q.· · You wrote men are faster and 21· ·stronger, right? 22· · · · ·A.· · Yeah.· If you take those away, 23· ·yeah, it would be a contest. 24· · · · ·Q.· · And it says, "We often times play 25· ·against U16 boys and that is about as old as TSG Reporting - Worldwide· 877-702-9580 YVer1f