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STATE OF TENNESSEE.
GENERAL ASSEMBLY

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Excerpt of the proceedings dated March 20, 2018

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SB 2293

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BRIGGS & ASSOCIATES COURT REPORTING
LINDA WORLEY
222 Second Avenue North
Suite 360M
Nashville, Tennessee 37201
(615) 440-7405

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(Whereupon, the following portion was
transcribed from an audio/video recording:)

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

Chairman Bell, item

number two, Senate Bill 2293.

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CHAIRMAN BELL:

Thank you, Mr.

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Chairman.

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believe I was in here during the discussion, but y'all had

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another bill concerning barbers and cosmetologists.

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figured --

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Mr. Chairman, I heard at least -- I don't

CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

Did we?

And I

I don't

recall.
CHAIRMAN BELL:

And I figured you

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didn't -- you didn't get a -- you didn't -- you weren't

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able to discuss that subject thoroughly, so I've got

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another bill that's dealing with barbers and

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cosmetologists, Senate Bill 2293.

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that makes the bill, but let me describe the amendment.

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The amendment removes the high school education

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requirements to become a barber, barber technician, barber

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instructor and a cosmetologist instructor.

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was prior to the bill that was passed by the legislature

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in 2015 that combine the boards.

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And I have an amendment

That's what it

Prior to that the requirement to

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receive a master barbers license was that the applicant

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had to have a tenth grade education or the equivalent.
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And if you remember, what we tried to do was whichever

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profession had the least restrictive or the least

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requirements -- education requirements.

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tried to move both professions to that -- to the least

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amount of education.

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as possible for citizens to become licensed barbers or

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licensed cosmetologists.

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school education requirement to receive a cosmetologist

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license.

We moved -- we

In other words, to make it as easy

There is currently no high

And, again, that's why we're moving the barber

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technician, barber instructor and cosmetologist instructor

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to that same requirement of not having to have a high

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school education.

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This bill also will remove the word

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"continuous" from the requirement that applicants be

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registered for a period of at least three continuous years

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in order to receive an instructor's license, either barber

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or cosmetologists.

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And then the amendment that I have,

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which is 015648, clarifies that the applicant must have

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been a registered barber or cosmetologist for a period of

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at least three years at any time in the last ten years

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prior to filing an application in order to become an

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instructor.

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Mr. Chairman, that's a brief
explanation of the bill and the amendment that makes the
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bill.

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:
bill to get it before us.

Okay.

I'll move the

Is there a second?

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UNKNOWN SPEAKER:

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

Second.
Second.

And the

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amendment that makes the bill is barcode 015648.

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Vice Chairman Greene, seconded by the chair.

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the explanation of the amendment that makes the bill.

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Discussion on the amendment?

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Moved by

You've heard

Senator Nicely.

SENATOR NICELY:

Thank you, Mr.

Chairman.

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You know, I like this bill.

You don't

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have to have a high school diploma to be a state senator,

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so I think it's only fair that you could be a barber

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without having a high school...

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called and had some concerns.

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concerned about this bill?

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this bill?

But I had a barber that
Why would a barber be

Why would a barber not like

He left a message.

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Go ahead.

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CHAIRMAN BELL:

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Chairman.

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Okay.

Thank you, Mr.

Thank you, Senator Nicely.
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

Thank you for

recognizing Chairman Bell, Mr. Nicely.

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Chairman's busy.

SENATOR NICELY:

Appreciate that.

You were busy, or

asleep.
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CHAIRMAN BELL:

And, Senator Nicely,

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I'm not sure why they would have a concern.

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requires them to get all the education.

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them to take and pass the barber or cosmetology exam.

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those requirements are still there.

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requirement -- the requirement that they have to have a

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high school education or the equivalent.

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:
Yager and then Chairman Watson.
amendment.

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It still

It still requires
All

It just removes

I have -- Chairman

Okay.

Yeah, we're on the

Chairman Yager, you're recognized.
CHAIRMAN YAGER:

Thank you.

I -- at a

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time where we are trying to encourage people to graduate

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from high school, improve our graduation rates, I think

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all of our schools have graduation specialists, graduation

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coaches now, what kind of a message is this sending, that

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you -- hey, you can drop out of school and get a barbers

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degree?

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

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CHAIRMAN BELL:

Chairman Bell.

Well, you can.

And as

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much as I hate to say it, Chairman Yager, there are people

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who quit school for one reason or another.

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who do, there are very limited opportunities for them to

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work.

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to do.

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And for those

This is one of the things that they would be able
That and become a state senator.
CHAIRMAN YAGER:

I -- what kind of a
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message are we sending?

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But I don't need an answer.

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question.

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I just -- I restate my question.
That was more of a rhetorical

CHAIRMAN BELL:

I understand.

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understand, Mr. Chairman.

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

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CHAIRMAN WATSON:

Chairman Watson.
The -- to the

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gentleman from Strawberry Plains.

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heard on it has been around the instructor part, has not

The pushback that I've

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been around the practitioner part.

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if a person wants to be a practicing barber, then that

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wasn't really the issue.

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instructional side -- and I don't know barber instructors

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-- and I don't know what the requirement is for being a

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barber instructor, but that's been the pushback that I've

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gotten back on this bill, is around the instructor part,

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not around the practitioner part.

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That if a -- you know,

But then when you get into the

CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

Further discussion?

We're on the amendment, correct?

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(No response.)

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

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objection.

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the adoption, say aye.

Okay.

We'll adopt the amendment.

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(Ayes spoken.)

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

There is no

Those in favor of

Oh.

Okay.

We
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adopt.

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discussion or questions for the sponsor?

We -- we're on the bill now as amended.

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(No response.)

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

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Is there

objection to the question?

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(No response.)

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

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Okay.

Further

Seeing none, call

the roll.

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UNKNOWN FEMALE:

Senator Greene?

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SENATOR GREENE:

Aye.

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UNKNOWN FEMALE:

Votes aye.

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Senator Gresham?

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SENATOR GRESHAM:

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UNKNOWN FEMALE:

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Senator Ketran?

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SENATOR KETRAN:

Aye.

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UNKNOWN FEMALE:

Votes aye.

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Senator Nicely?

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SENATOR NICELY:

Aye.

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UNKNOWN FEMALE:

Votes aye.

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Senator Roberts?

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SENATOR ROBERTS:

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UNKNOWN FEMALE:

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Senator Tate?

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SENATOR TATE:

No.
Votes no.

Aye.
Votes aye.

No.
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UNKNOWN FEMALE:

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Senator Watson?

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SENATOR WATSON:

No.

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UNKNOWN FEMALE:

Votes no.

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Senator Yager?

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SENATOR YAGER:

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UNKNOWN FEMALE:

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Chairman Johnson?

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

Votes no.

No.
Votes no.

Aye.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:

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Sir, you have five ayes, four no's.

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

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Votes aye.

Bill passes to the

calender committee.

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CHAIRMAN BELL:

Chairman Johnson, I

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appreciate you and appreciate the Committee and I'll work

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on this bill a little bit between now and the floor.

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CHAIRMAN JOHNSON:

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CHAIRMAN BELL:

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You might want to.

Thank you.

Appreciate

it.
(End of recording.)

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STATE OF TENNESSEE
COUNTY OF WILLIAMSON

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I, LINDA WORLEY, LCR, Licensed
Court Reporter in and for the State of Tennessee at large,
DO HEREBY CERTIFY that the

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foregoing is a true and correct transcription of an

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audio/video recording to the best of my ability, recorded

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on the 20th day of March, 2018.

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I DO FURTHER CERTIFY that I am not

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related to nor an employee of counsel or any of the

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parties to the action, nor am I in any way financially

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interested in the outcome of this action.

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IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have
hereunto affixed my hand this 22nd day of April, 2020.

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S/ Linda Worley
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Linda Worley, LCR
LCR #124, Expires 6-30-20

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