U.S. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation Washington, D.C. 20535 October 1, 2020 MR. JASON LEOPOLD BUZZFEED NEWS 7TH FLOOR 1630 CONNECTICUT AVENUE NW WASHINGTON, DC 20009 FOIPA Request No.: 1432673-000 Civil Action No.: 19-cv-01278 Subject: All 302’s of individuals who were questioned/interviewed by FBI Agents working for the Office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller Dear Mr. Leopold: The enclosed documents were reviewed under the Freedom of Information/Privacy Acts (FOIPA), Title 5, United States Code, Section 552/552a. Below you will find checked boxes under applicable statutes for the exemptions asserted to protect information exempt from disclosure. The appropriate exemptions are noted on the processed pages next to redacted information. In addition, a deleted page information sheet was inserted to indicate where pages were withheld entirely pursuant to applicable exemptions. An Explanation of Exemptions is enclosed to further explain justification for withheld information. Section 552 Section 552a (d)(5) (b)(1) (b)(7)(A) (b)(2) (b)(7)(B) (j)(2) (b)(3) (b)(7)(C) (k)(1) Federal Rules of (b)(7)(D) (k)(2) Criminal Procedure 6(e) 50 U.S.C § 3024(i)(1) 31 U.S.C § 5319 (b)(7)(E) (k)(3) (b)(7)(F) (k)(4) (b)(4) (b)(8) (k)(5) (b)(5) (b)(9) (k)(6) (b)(6) (k)(7) 821 pages were reviewed and 496 pages are being released. Deletions were made by the United States Custom and Border Protection (CBP), Department of Justice/Office of Information Policy (DOJ/OIP), Department of Justice/National Security Division (NSD), Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Office of the Inspector General (FDIC OIG), Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), and the United States Marshal Service (USMS) Please see the paragraphs below for relevant information specific to your request and the enclosed FBI FOIPA Addendum for standard responses applicable to all requests. Document(s) were located which originated with, or contained information concerning, other Government Agency (ies) [OGA]. This information has been referred to the OGA(s) for review and direct response to you. We are consulting with another agency. The FBI will correspond with you regarding this information when the consultation is completed. Please refer to the enclosed FBI FOIPA Addendum for additional standard responses applicable to your request. “Part 1” of the Addendum includes standard responses that apply to all requests. “Part 2” includes additional standard responses that apply to all requests for records on individuals. “Part 3” includes general information about FBI records that you may find useful. Also enclosed is our Explanation of Exemptions. Although your request is in litigation, we are required by law to provide you the following information: If you are not satisfied with the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s determination in response to this request, you may administratively appeal by writing to the Director, Office of Information Policy (OIP), United States Department of Justice, 441 G Street, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20530, or you may submit an appeal through OIP's FOIA STAR portal by creating an account following the instructions on OIP’s website: https://www.justice.gov/oip/submit-and-track-request-or-appeal. Your appeal must be postmarked or electronically transmitted within ninety (90) days of the date of my response to your request. If you submit your appeal by mail, both the letter and the envelope should be clearly marked "Freedom of Information Act Appeal." Please cite the FOIPA Request Number assigned to your request so it may be easily identified. You may seek dispute resolution services by contacting the Office of Government Information Services (OGIS). The contact information for OGIS is as follows: Office of Government Information Services, National Archives and Records Administration, 8601 Adelphi Road-OGIS, College Park, Maryland 20740-6001, e-mail at ogis@nara.gov; telephone at 202-741-5770; toll free at 1-877-684-6448; or facsimile at 202-741-5769. Alternatively, you may contact the FBI’s FOIA Public Liaison by emailing foipaquestions@fbi.gov. If you submit your dispute resolution correspondence by email, the subject heading should clearly state “Dispute Resolution Services.” Please also cite the FOIPA Request Number assigned to your request so it may be easily identified. Please direct any further inquiries about this case to the Attorney representing the Government in this matter. Please use the FOIPA Request Number and/or Civil Action Number in all correspondence or inquiries concerning your request. See additional information which follows. Sincerely, Michael G. Seidel Section Chief Record/Information Dissemination Section Information Management Division Enclosures Additional Information: In response to your Freedom of Information/Privacy Acts (FOIPA) request, enclosed is a processed copy of Bates Stamped documents, FBI (19-cv-1278)-5373 through FBI (19-cv-1278)-6193. The enclosed documents represent the eleventh interim release of information responsive to your request. Additionally, included in this release are 2 pages of previously processed material. This material is being provided to you per a court order. This material consists of Baker 302 Bates 19-cv-177-1-2. Revisions were made to withholdings in documents previously released to you. Enclosed is an updated copy of Bates Stamped document FBI (19-cv-1278)-674-685. You were previously advised we were consulting with another agency concerning information related to your litigation. A portion of that information has been returned to the FBI and is enclosed in the following Bates Stamped documents FBI(19cv1278) 1027-1038, 1936-1951, 2152-2163, 2182-2184, 2236-2249, 2506-2517, 2792, 2830-2843, 2997-3002, 3003-3004, 3013-3023, 3293-3297, 3320-3329, 3535-3542, 3545-3551, 3553-3555, 3742-3743, 3744, 3745, 3746, 4304-4305, 4467-4468, 4978-4980. FBI FOIPA Addendum As referenced in our letter responding to your Freedom of Information/Privacy Acts (FOIPA) request, the FBI FOIPA Addendum provides information applicable to your request. Part 1 of the Addendum includes standard responses that apply to all requests. Part 2 includes standard responses that apply to requests for records about individuals to the extent your request seeks the listed information. Part 3 includes general information about FBI records, searches, and programs. Part 1: The standard responses below apply to all requests: (i) 5 U.S.C. § 552(c). Congress excluded three categories of law enforcement and national security records from the requirements of the FOIPA [5 U.S.C. § 552(c)]. FBI responses are limited to those records subject to the requirements of the FOIPA. Additional information about the FBI and the FOIPA can be found on the www.fbi.gov/foia website. (ii) Intelligence Records. To the extent your request seeks records of intelligence sources, methods, or activities, the FBI can neither confirm nor deny the existence of records pursuant to FOIA exemptions (b)(1), (b)(3), and as applicable to requests for records about individuals, PA exemption (j)(2) [5 U.S.C. §§ 552/552a (b)(1), (b)(3), and (j)(2)]. The mere acknowledgment of the existence or nonexistence of such records is itself a classified fact protected by FOIA exemption (b)(1) and/or would reveal intelligence sources, methods, or activities protected by exemption (b)(3) [50 USC § 3024(i)(1)]. This is a standard response and should not be read to indicate that any such records do or do not exist. Part 2: The standard responses below apply to all requests for records on individuals: (i) Requests for Records about any Individual—Watch Lists. The FBI can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any individual’s name on a watch list pursuant to FOIA exemption (b)(7)(E) and PA exemption (j)(2) [5 U.S.C. §§ 552/552a (b)(7)(E), (j)(2)]. This is a standard response and should not be read to indicate that watch list records do or do not exist. (ii) Requests for Records about any Individual—Witness Security Program Records. The FBI can neither confirm nor deny the existence of records which could identify any participant in the Witness Security Program pursuant to FOIA exemption (b)(3) and PA exemption (j)(2) [5 U.S.C. §§ 552/552a (b)(3), 18 U.S.C. 3521, and (j)(2)]. This is a standard response and should not be read to indicate that such records do or do not exist. (iii) Requests for Records for Incarcerated Individuals. The FBI can neither confirm nor deny the existence of records which could reasonably be expected to endanger the life or physical safety of any incarcerated individual pursuant to FOIA exemptions (b)(7)(E), (b)(7)(F), and PA exemption (j)(2) [5 U.S.C. §§ 552/552a (b)(7)(E), (b)(7)(F), and (j)(2)]. This is a standard response and should not be read to indicate that such records do or do not exist. Part 3: General Information: (i) Record Searches. The Record/Information Dissemination Section (RIDS) searches for reasonably described records by searching systems or locations where responsive records would reasonably be found. A standard search normally consists of a search for main files in the Central Records System (CRS), an extensive system of records consisting of applicant, investigative, intelligence, personnel, administrative, and general files compiled by the FBI per its law enforcement, intelligence, and administrative functions. The CRS spans the entire FBI organization, comprising records of FBI Headquarters, FBI Field Offices, and FBI Legal Attaché Offices (Legats) worldwide; Electronic Surveillance (ELSUR) records are included in the CRS. Unless specifically requested, a standard search does not include references, administrative records of previous FOIPA requests, or civil litigation files. For additional information about our record searches, visit www.fbi.gov/services/information-management/foipa/requesting-fbi-records. (ii) FBI Records. Founded in 1908, the FBI carries out a dual law enforcement and national security mission. As part of this dual mission, the FBI creates and maintains records on various subjects; however, the FBI does not maintain records on every person, subject, or entity. (iii) Requests for Criminal History Records or Rap Sheets. The Criminal Justice Information Services (CJIS) Division provides Identity History Summary Checks – often referred to as a criminal history record or rap sheet. These criminal history records are not the same as material in an investigative “FBI file.” An Identity History Summary Check is a listing of information taken from fingerprint cards and documents submitted to the FBI in connection with arrests, federal employment, naturalization, or military service. For a fee, individuals can request a copy of their Identity History Summary Check. Forms and directions can be accessed at www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/identity-history-summary-checks. Additionally, requests can be submitted electronically at www.edo.cjis.gov. For additional information, please contact CJIS directly at (304) 625-5590. (iv) National Name Check Program (NNCP). The mission of NNCP is to analyze and report information in response to name check requests received from federal agencies, for the purpose of protecting the United States from foreign and domestic threats to national security. Please be advised that this is a service provided to other federal agencies. Private Citizens cannot request a name check. EXPLANATION OF EXEMPTIONS SUBSECTIONS OF TITLE 5, UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 552 (b)(1) (A) specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and (B) are in fact properly classified to such Executive order; (b)(2) related solely to the internal personnel rules and practices of an agency; (b)(3) specifically exempted from disclosure by statute (other than section 552b of this title), provided that such statute (A) requires that the matters be withheld from the public in such a manner as to leave no discretion on issue, or (B) establishes particular criteria for withholding or refers to particular types of matters to be withheld; (b)(4) trade secrets and commercial or financial information obtained from a person and privileged or confidential; (b)(5) inter-agency or intra-agency memorandums or letters which would not be available by law to a party other than an agency in litigation with the agency; (b)(6) personnel and medical files and similar files the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy; (b)(7) records or information compiled for law enforcement purposes, but only to the extent that the production of such law enforcement records or information ( A ) could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings, ( B ) would deprive a person of a right to a fair trial or an impartial adjudication, ( C ) could reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy, ( D ) could reasonably be expected to disclose the identity of confidential source, including a State, local, or foreign agency or authority or any private institution which furnished information on a confidential basis, and, in the case of record or information compiled by a criminal law enforcement authority in the course of a criminal investigation, or by an agency conducting a lawful national security intelligence investigation, information furnished by a confidential source, ( E ) would disclose techniques and procedures for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions, or would disclose guidelines for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions if such disclosure could reasonably be expected to risk circumvention of the law, or ( F ) could reasonably be expected to endanger the life or physical safety of any individual; (b)(8) contained in or related to examination, operating, or condition reports prepared by, on behalf of, or for the use of an agency responsible for the regulation or supervision of financial institutions; or (b)(9) geological and geophysical information and data, including maps, concerning wells. SUBSECTIONS OF TITLE 5, UNITED STATES CODE, SECTION 552a (d)(5) information compiled in reasonable anticipation of a civil action proceeding; (j)(2) material reporting investigative efforts pertaining to the enforcement of criminal law including efforts to prevent, control, or reduce crime or apprehend criminals; (k)(1) information which is currently and properly classified pursuant to an Executive order in the interest of the national defense or foreign policy, for example, information involving intelligence sources or methods; (k)(2) investigatory material compiled for law enforcement purposes, other than criminal, which did not result in loss of a right, benefit or privilege under Federal programs, or which would identify a source who furnished information pursuant to a promise that his/her identity would be held in confidence; (k)(3) material maintained in connection with providing protective services to the President of the United States or any other individual pursuant to the authority of Title 18, United States Code, Section 3056; (k)(4) required by statute to be maintained and used solely as statistical records; (k)(5) investigatory material compiled solely for the purpose of determining suitability, eligibility, or qualifications for Federal civilian employment or for access to classified information, the disclosure of which would reveal the identity of the person who furnished information pursuant to a promise that his/her identity would be held in confidence; (k)(6) testing or examination material used to determine individual qualifications for appointment or promotion in Federal Government service the release of which would compromise the testing or examination process; (k)(7) material used to determine potential for promotion in the armed services, the disclosure of which would reveal the identity of the person who furnished the material pursuant to a promise that his/her identity would be held in confidence. FBI/DOJ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION FOI/PA DELETED PAGE INFORMATION SHEET Civil Action No.: 19-cv-1278 / 19-cv-1626 FOIA: 1432673-000 / 1433273-000 PDF Title:19-cv-1278 Release 11 Bates 5373-6193 Total Withheld Pages = 325 Bates Page Reference FBI(19cv1278) 2182 FBI(19cv1278) 2183 FBI(19cv1278) 2184 FBI(19cv1278) 2792 FBI(19cv1278) 2830 FBI(19cv1278) 2831 FBI(19cv1278) 2832 FBI(19cv1278) 2833 FBI(19cv1278) 2834 FBI(19cv1278) 2835 FBI(19cv1278) 2836 FBI(19cv1278) 2837 FBI(19cv1278) 2838 FBI(19cv1278) 2839 FBI(19cv1278) 2840 FBI(19cv1278) 2841 FBI(19cv1278) 2842 FBI(19cv1278) 2843 FBI(19cv1278) 3320 FBI(19cv1278) 3321 FBI(19cv1278) 3322 FBI(19cv1278) 3323 FBI(19cv1278) 3324 FBI(19cv1278) 3325 FBI(19cv1278) 3326 FBI(19cv1278) 3327 FBI(19cv1278) 3328 FBI(19cv1278) 3329 FBI(19cv1278) 5379 FBI(19cv1278) 5380 FBI(19cv1278) 5381 FBI(19cv1278) 5382 FBI(19cv1278) 5383 FBI(19cv1278) 5384 FBI(19cv1278) 5385 Reason for Withholding (i.e., exemptions with coded rationale, duplicate, sealed by order of court, etc.) b3; 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CLASSIFIEE 1.4 (Ci 12-31-2042 BATE: 05-26-2019 -l of 12- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofenuy 08f10f2017 (U) MARY date of birthl I be ave has interviewed at the Of?ce of the Special Counsel, 395 Street SW, Washington, DC. Participating in the interview were Special Agents (SAs) I land Of?ce of the Special Counsel attorneys Andrew Goldstein and Elizabeth Prelogar. SA advised McCord that it is a violation of criminal law to lie to the FBI in the course of an investigation, which McCord acknowledged After being advised of the purpose of the interview, McCord provided the following information: (U) McCord?s Note-Taking Practice (U) McCord took notes on a variety of things, given the scope of her responsibilities. For example, she took notes at White House meetings in order to be able to debrief others when she returned from the meetings. On matters related to Russia, she took notes because the topic was complex and she wanted to remember the details. During phone calls, she took notes on things she needed to do based on the content of the calls. She didn?t take notes in the same notebook every time, often using whatever was handy. When she was close to leaving her position in the Department of Justice (DOJ), McCord went back to her various folders and notebooks, pulled out materials related to Russia, and gave them to her colleague George Toscas to hold on to, assuming they may be needed at some point in the future. Employment History (U) After law school, McCord clerked for US. District Court Judge Thomas Hogan for two years, and then spent two years at the Department of Treasury Office of Legal Counsel. In 1994, she joined the District of Columbia United States Attorney?s Office (DC-USAO). She took a leave of absence in 199?, when her husband got a job in Japan. lfvl'len she returned, she went back to the DC-USAO. In 2001, McCord and her husband left DC and moved to North Carolina, but returned to the DC area about a year later. When they returned, McCord again went back to the DC-USAO. in assify On: 20421231 SE om: as: 1.. h3 Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {In he intestigation on OTK17X201T at Person} hp?: File A I Date drafted This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. it is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. [381(1 90.; 1 2? 8) - 6?4 (Rev. 05-08-10} ContinuationoFFD-Btllof (U) IntEIView Of mar? MCCOICI .011 b1 b3 my 2 of 12 2012, McCord became the Criminal Chief, where she remained until May 2014, when she left to go to Main Justice. (U) McCord started at DOJ as the acting Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the National Security Division (NSD). In August 2014, she became the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General, where she remained until October 2016. In October 2016, after John Carlin's departure, McCord served as acting Assistant Attorney General (AAG) for NSD. McCord's last day at DOJ was May 12, 201?. She currently works at the Georgetown University Law Center. (U) During the time McCord served as the acting AAG, there was no Principal Deputy in place, so she performed the duties of both positions simultaneously. Her duties included assisting in running NSD's various components, which include the Office of Law and Policy, Counterintelligence and Export Control Section, the Appellate Section, and the CFIUS Unit. On occasion, McCord would attend Deputies Committees (DCs) and Principals Committees (PCs) at the White House when Yates was unavailable. The FBI Investigation on LTG Mike San] McCord first learned of the investigation into Mike on a phone call with FBI Deputy Director Andy McCabe on January 3, 201?. In that call, McCabe told McCord the b1 FBI had been planning to close their investigation on before discovering his telephone calls b3 with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyakl 'I?v?lcCord .l referenced page #1 in her notes] M: McCabe explained to McCord that an intelligence product was in the works to address the lack of Russian reaction to the December 2016 sanctions. There was a lot of speculation regarding the minimal response from the Russians which was not "what was expected." While the draft product was in the review stage, calls between Kislyak and were discovered, leading to wonder if those calls were related to the lack of response. McCabe described to McCord, based on what he had been told, the content of the calls. b3 Page 2 of McCord?s notes indicate General Counsel at the Of?ce of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) Bob Litt raised the issue of a possible Logan Act violation. McCord was not familiar with the Logan Act at the time and made a note to herself to look it up later. Also on page 2 of her notes, McCord noted mention of a ?referral,? and noted that ultimately no referral was required, as the FBI maintained the information and would not refer a matter to themselves. Her notes also indicate that at the time, the individuals at FBI and ODNI that were aware of the issue were Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, Litt (ODNI), Jim Baker b3 (FBI), and Tricia Anderson (FBI). 1373 SE om lUi iSl 1:11 133 [FD-Slim (Rev. SE (UI Interview of Mary McCorcl .011 Jung; 3 of 12 till i Kim-F9 lv'lcCord later learned of the FBI's existing counterintelligence cases on George Papadopoulos, Carter Page, Paul Manafort, and Mike which she initially understood were not criminal investigations. McCord later learned of the ongoing Manafort criminal investigation. the immediate aftermath of learning of the calls, McCord was not thinking about a criminal investigation. It seemed logical to her that there may be some communications between an incoming administration and their foreign partners, so the Logan Act seemed like a stretch to her. She described the matter as "concerning" but with no particular urgency. In early January, I?vlcCord did not think people were considering brie?ng the incoming administration. However, that changed when Vice President Michael Pence went on Face the Nation and said things McCord knew to be untrue. Also, as time went on, and then-White House spokesperson Sean Spicer made comments about actions she knew to be false, the urgency grew. January 13, 201?, the FBI provided a briefing to DDJ on the background of the investigation, as well as the other pending related FBI counterintelligence cases. McCord recalled the participants on the FBI side to be Deputy Assistant Director Pete Strzok, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, and possibly attorney Sally Moyer. The DOJ participants were Mic-Cord, Toscas, Stu Evans, and maybe Tashina Gauhar. The briefing consisted of the ?Crown? material, and the cases she had already been briefed on. This was the first time McCord heard about these cases in detail, though she was aware of the ICA. Page 3 of her notes indicate President-Elect Trump was not briefed on the existence of the FBI investigations in his early January briefing on the ICA. [Agent note: ICA refers to the Intelligence Community Assessment entitled ?Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections.?] WMcCord did not recall what her notation of payment? on page 4 of her notes referred to, but surmised it might be related to Russia Today. Also on page 4, McCord made note of a David Ignatius column on call and a potential Logan Act violation. (WM McCord recalled that she and others at DOJ queried the as to their investigative plan if the case ended up moving into the criminal sphere, and Priestap relayed that a tasking to develop a plan had gone out. (WM Page 5 of McCord?s notes say something to the effect of "re: Most pressing as NS Adviser. Need to decide what to do wfit and how to discuss w! incoming." McCord could not recall specifically what that meant, but thought it was when discussions started on what to do with the information and how to do it. McCord noted they were not thinking about criminal statutes at b1 133 that point. this SE Rl's b1 (Rev, ?S-liR-l?} :33 lb?- ContinuationoFFD-B?l of Interview of Mary MoCord .011 .1?21gc 4 of 12 Page 10 of McCord?s notes reference a defensive brie?ng. McCord believed those notes related to a conversation with Priestap in which he said a defensive briefing would be difficult, given it seems as though people within the White House are not being honest with one another. If was lying to people within the White House and is potentially compromised, the value of a defensive briefing was questionable. thought Priestap was likely thinking from a purely counterintelligence perspective, not criminal. ill] ?rm-F McCord did not recall exactly when she saw the transcripts of the calls, but believed she asked to see them after Pence?s statements about on Face the Nation. [Agent b1 note: Pence was on Face the Nation on January 15, 201?] McCord believed she probably had the transcripts by January 19, 201?, possibly having come over from Strzok. After reading them, she felt they were ?worse? than she initially thought; she noted that her recollection of them is that proactively raised the issue of sanctions, and she feels it is hard to believe he would forget talking about something he raised himself. {tat} Decision to Notify the White House is) Bonsulting pages 15 and 16 of her notes, recalled an evening E: unclassified telephone call she had with Yates and Matt Axelrod. McCord was not certain of the timing of the call, but it might have been after Pence was on Face the Nation or after a January 201? call with The three of them discussed what to do with the information and agreed someone should discuss their concerns with McCabe. They were concerned because at that point, Pence had said something untrue to the American people, and the Russians knew it was untrue. The implications of that were that the Russians believed one of two things either that the Vice President was in on it with or that was clearly willing to lie to the Vice President. They ultimately decided McCord would make the call to McCabe to discuss their concerns. When McCord called McCabe, he told her the FBI did not want to compromise iU: their counterintelligence investigation, which is what would happen if the White House was noti?ed. Z: McCord believed her notes on page 15 document their phone call. Gilli-F9599- Page 1? of McCord's notes relate to another call with McCabe. relayed to . . McCord in that call that the FBI was not convinced of a need to notify, the FBI has no ?duty" to notify, is" and the FBI was concerned it would look like a political stunt. rill] ?rm-FEAround January 1? and 18, 201?, prior to the inauguration, McCord and others at DOJ began soliciting views of others in the Intelligence Community on whether or not the incoming E: administration needed to know about the existence and content of calls with Kislyak. The initial view was that they were ?comfortable" with the information being shared, but that it was b1 ultimately the information, so the FBI should make the final decision. There was some 133 LEI bl b3 (Rot: Of ?all?? .On m: Jung; 5 Of 12 discussion of whether Congressional notification was required, and it was ultimately decided there was no obligation to notify at that point in time. McCord's notes on page 18 indicate that if Congress were to be notified, notification should be to Gang of 8 members only. EEConsulting pages 7? and 8 of her notes, McCord believed that on January 19, b1 2017, Comey was visiting the ODNI, and at that time DOJ was still trying to "drum up support? to :33 notify the White House of the calls. On a phone call with ODNI attorneys Litt and Brad Brooker that day, it was relayed that the DNI agreed the information should be brought to the attention of the President-Elect and Vice President-Elect, but the primary equity was the so they should make the final call. McCord relayed that Yates wanted to be able to say to Corney in a later conversation that the agrees? with the need to notify. and asked if Clapper and Brennan would call Comey. MoCord was told Brennan may have been at the ODNI at the same time (as Comey), and someone would try to arrange for Comey and Clapper to talk. Later. McCord learned that Clapper and Comey talked, but Comey said he would not brief the White House. (WM Yates and Axelrod were increasingly frustrated with the at this point. One reason for the frustration was their perception that the FBl's perspective on the matter "morphed." lnitially, the FBl's resistance to notify was attributed to the desire to protect the FBFs counterintelligence investigation. but later Comey told Yates he was concerned about compromising a criminal investigation. McCord was not sure when the discussion about the criminal investigation occurred, but said it definitely had happened by the week after the inauguration. (UNEOEEJ) McCord ?pushed on Andy McCabe? about the FBI's unwillingness to notify the White House. She asked him about the FBI's plan and raised the fact that the DNI and the CIA concurred with the need to notify. She believes the FBI was concerned the FBI would be criticized for appearing to be politically motivated, especially after the reactions to the way the Clinton investigation was handled. Interview by the FBI (UNI-jaw On January 23, 201?, McCord, Yates. Axelrod, and Guahar had a discussion about the matter, and reinforced their collective position that the White House should be noti?ed. Yates had a conversation with Comey after their discussion, but he did not change his position. W- 3n January 24, 201?, Yates held a meeting in her conference room, attended by McCord. Toscas. Gauhar, Scott Schools, and perhaps others, where Yates said she decided she b1 was going to tell Comey he had to tell the White House Counsel's Office about the :ia calls. In Yates? view, it was an FBI responsibility. Yates left the room to make the call to Comey and when she returned. reported that Comey ?oid "er he just ??51 FBI Agents to interview The g5? r?D-rmza (Rev. llS-IlR-l?} Of ?all?? .On DWITHZOH Jung; 6- Of 12 DOJ group was "flabbergasted." lv'lcCord's impression was Yates was ?dumbfounded" and didn't ask many questions of Corney in their call. Yates, Axelrod, and others were annoyed that they hadn't had an opportunity to weigh in on the decision or offer any input on the interview strategy. (WM) Following the interview, Priestap, FBI General Counsel Baker went to DOJ to brief them on the interview. The DOJ attendees included Axelrod, Gauhar, Jim Crowell, Toscas, Stu Evans, and possibly Schools. Strzok provided a readout of the interview, since he and another agent had conducted it. The FBl's provided rationale for doing the interview was that the existence of the investigation had already leaked, so was already aware that the information was being discussed publicly and there was no element of surprise. Priestap told the group the goal of the interview was to determine whether or not was in a clandestine relationship with the Russians. The FBI did not want to insinuate the existence of a criminal investigation to To that end, they did not give a Title 18 USC warning. Toscas raised the issue of the lack of warning, since he and others, after hearing Strzok?s description of the interview, thought lied to the FBI. Toscas also felt there were some loose ends to clean up based on answers. However, the FBI position was that there was no need to re-interview at that time. (UHFM January 26, 2017 Meeting with White House Counsel?s Office (WM) The evening of January 25, 2017, Yates called McCord and said she had decided to brief the White House Counsel?s Office on the matter, wanted to do it the following day, and wanted McCord to go with her. McCord believes Yates wanted McCord to go with her because first, she wanted a witness and second, she wanted that witness to be a career employee, rather than a political appointee. iUl The next day, McCord reviewed the transcripts and pulled out excerpts for Yates to reference in the discussion with the White House Counsel's Office, should they be {1806383 W. (or/fade) On January 26, 201?, McCord accompanied Yates to the White House, where they met with White House Counsel Don l'vchahn and another attorney from his office, James Burnham. The four of them were the only ones at the meeting. Neither Yates nor McCord took notes, but l?v?chahn and Burnham both had notepads with them during the meeting. McCord is not sure if they actually took notes. "Ul Yates did most of the talking in the meeting, and started the conversation by saying there was something she felt they needed to know about in light of Pence*s interview on l3?! Face the Nation, she wanted them to know that what he*d said about was not true. McGahn asked how Yates knew this, and she explained that ?@233 FD-Bliza {kc-i: liS-l?iH-ltl} b3 ME ?4 I Comimvmonarm-sugar (Ul Of Mary ?6001561 01, OTfleiZOlT Jung: 7' of 12 151' [She told them that the conversations made it clear that there were discussions on Russian sanctions in those calls, contrary to what Vice President Pence had said on TV. Yates explained to them her concerns were twofold - first, the Vice President needed to know he?d been misled, and second, the Russians b7E themselves knew that what the Vice President said was not true. This posed a potential compromise situation for McGahn asked if had been interviewed by the FBI and Yates told him that he had been interviewed two days previously, on Tuesday. McCord got the impression that McGahn did not know about the interview before Yates told him. He asked where the interview had taken place, and Yates told him it was in White House office. McGahn asked ?how?d he do?" and Yates declined to answer. l'v'lcCord did not think it was a serious inquiry, butjust something he said because he was shocked and did not know what else to say. McGahn also asked what he could do with the information, and Yates told him he could do what he needed to do with it. l?vlcCord specifically recalled that McGahn at one point asked something to the effect of, ?Would it be okay for me to ask if you have a criminal investigation?? to which Yates replied, ?it's okay for you to ask, but it's not okay for me to answer.? McCord remembered Burnham raising the Logan Act, mentioning it was in the news, but they didn't talk about it at length. McGahn asked if he could talk to about the matter, and Yates said he could. {UrlE?lsl?j Toward the end of the conversation, l?v?chahn asked about another case where an individual had been prosecuted for taking highly classified pictures of a submarine. knew this person and had previously openly asked the President to pardon him. McCord thinks someone may have given them a heads up that this would be raised, as she recalled having looked up the details of the case prior to their meeting. Yates explained to McGahn the role of the Office of the Pardon Attorney to McGahn and Burnham in response to their question. (UHEDEIQ) After about fifteen minutes, the meeting ended. Upon returning to the Department of Justice, McCord and Yates debriefed Axelrod, Schools, Gauhar, Evans, and Toscas. No one from FBI was present - l?vlcCord did not think they told the FBI they were going to tell the White House. (urn?sug) January 27, 201? Meeting with White House Counsel?s Office b1 b3 SE Rl's :Si bl (Rev. llS-llR-l?} b3 IUterView Of ?all?? .On 07f17?f201? SE Rb? Jung; 8 Of 12 (HUM) On January 201 T, McCord learned McGahn had asked for a follow-up meeting, and that one had been scheduled for that afternoon. Based on a review of her calendar for . . . 131 per FBI and. ODNI that week, McCord believed It was a 2.30 pm meeting. b3 Per FBI and on? (Um/336125 McCord described the second meeting as ?not really signi?cant." She thinks McGahn and Burnham were so the first day, they hadn't had time to fully process the information. Now that they had more time to think about it, they wanted to rehash the material but also to focus on the restrictions on what they could and couldn't do with the information. They may have asked about discussing it with the Vice President in this meeting. ed that there were no restrictions on what they could do with the information. The actua ere never . is shown to them, so there was no need to specify that any particular thing could not be shared. f?d?F 131 this something we could see?" Yates responded that they would have to take that question back for 133 1:73 McGahn asked about getting access to the underlying information, asking ?is discussion. McCord is not sure if Yates characterized the underlying information as information" but Yates made it cleart at the FBI had interviewed McGahn or Burnham may have asked if, in doing whatever they needed to do With the Information, they should be worried about harming a criminal investigation. Yates responded that she would not discuss criminal violations with them. (WM McCord said they did not discuss what lvchahn and Burnham did with the information provided the previous day. Neither McGahn nor Burnham gave any indication they had talked to anyone else about the information. Based on their discussion and reactions, McCord believed lv'chahn and Burnham were caught off guard by the information. (UffEGldQ) McCord did not think anyone at the White House Counsel's Office ever communicated that they didn?t believe there was a legal issue, but she did recall them saying something along the lines of not wanting to jeopardize an investigation. (WM At the conclusion of the meeting, Yates agreed to come back to them with what underlying information could be made available. (U) Notification Follow-Up On January 28, 201?, McCord received an email from email account, but signed by John Eisenberg, Deputy Counsel to the President for National Security Affairs. The email stated it was a follow-up to McCord's interactions with McGahn, and asked for a time to have a b1 b3 SE ORN lei 131 I FD-Bliza (Rm: li?-iiH-lti} Of War? .On 07flif201i :Si an ill? WI Jung; 9 Of 12 secure call. Given that the email was from email account, McCord opted to not reply to the email directly. She got Eisenberg?s email from a contact at the National Security Council and emailed Eisenberg to set up a time to talk the following day. (WM McCord was initially shocked to receive an email from email account. She surmised at the time that and Eisenberg had been discussing the DOJ notification regarding and had agreed that Eisenberg would reach out to McCord, and then had accidentally sent the message to her from account. BCWhen McCord and Eisenberg connected on the telephone on January 29, 201?, Eisenberg told l?v?lcCord he had been in office prior to his sending the email to McCord and an assistant had switched his and telephones when giving them back. He explained they had the b3 same password, so Eisenberg accidentally sent the email to McCord from phone. Eisenberg ME told he would be handling the matter from that point on On January 30, 2017, I'v'lcCord and Eisenberg had another telephone call, to discuss some follow up issues, but McCord could not recall soecificallv what those issues were Also on that dav. Yates had a telephone call with l?v'chahr Rb] 133 To McCord?s knowledge, Yates did not meet personally with McGahn on January 30, 1,73 201?. b1 m- -- On January 30, 201?, McCord Toscas, Gauhar, and Evans went to the FB me. ha The DOJ personnel wantec orior to giving access to the I b'rE White House. FBI personnel in attendance were Strzok, Lisa Page, Priestap, and possibly McCabe. (UHEGESIQ) On January 31, 2017, McCord emailed Eisenberg to tell him the material he had requested was available, and put him in touch with Strzok to coordinate the details. (mm On February 201?, McCord emailed Eisenberg to ask if he?d been able to get access to the material. On February 2, 201?, Eisenberg told McCord he was available that day to review the material. on Eisenberg?s communications, McCord assumed Eisenberg would be the one reviewing the material. The FBI had the lead on coordinating with Eisenberg, so McCord is not aware of exactly when he reviewed the material, but she had the impression it took a while to happen. b'i'E M- Vice President Pence's Review of Transcri ts 4 IS II 3 . FBI(1gcv1278j-682 FD-Tl?za (REY. fiS-IiR-l?} b3 bars I 1 l3: ContinuationoFFD-B?l of Interview of Mary McCord .On .1?21gc 10 of 12 iUl . {5:1 .. McCord recalled McCabe calling her on February 10, 201?. He relayed he had i [ll been at the ?v hIte House, possibly for a Deputies Committee meeting, and as he was leaving, he received a call from his of?ce saying the White House was looking for him. He had not gone far from the White House, so turned around and went back. Once there, he learned that Pence wanted to see the transcripts. McCabe did not have the transcripts on him, so he returned to the FBI to b1 b3 retrieve them and returned to the White House Situation Room. There, he met with Pence; Pence*s Chief of Staff; The President?s Chief of Staff, Reince Preibus; and possibly others, and they reviewed the transcripts. Pence, while reviewing, directed his Chief of Staff to get the transcript of his (Pence? s) Face the Nation interview, which he then compared to ranscripts. At one point in the meeting, Priebus said he'd seen enough and left the room. McCord was not sure if anyone was with McCabe. Resignation and Aftermath (U) On February 13, 2017, resigned from his position as National Security Advisor. On February 16, 2017, McCord participated in a briefing to Acting Attorney General Dana Boente on and the other Russia-related investigations, to include Papadopoulos, Manafort, and Carter Page. McCord*s notes (page 42) reflect that at that time, analysis of phone records was nearly done. WAN-F) By that point in time, McCord?s understanding is there was both a criminal and a counterintelligence investigation into At that point, the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) was the central point for criminal process related to the investigations, a decision that had been made by Boente. Prior to that decision, legal process was being handled in other Districts as appropriate. McCord pointed out that if legal process was being used, it was clearly a criminal investigation. (U) Additional Contact with White House (DIEM) At some point in the spring of 201?, the same day the President?s Twitter account stated Trump Tower had been tapped, McCord received a call from Eisenberg. He said to her, "What would we have to do to ?nd out if this exists." McCord noted this was a highly unusual request and asked Eisenberg if he was asking her ?if this coverage exists." Eisenberg replied, guess so." McCord asked Eisenberg to tell her exactly what he was asking for. Eisenberg told her he would send her an article, and he wanted to know if she could tell him if it was true. told Eisenberg she would get back to him. McCord doesn't recall if he sent her an article or if she looked it up on her own, but she recalled reading an article from the Breitbart website on Trump?s statements about bl b3 Trump Tower being tapped. She never heard back from Eisenberg on that matter. ME I b1 FD-Bliza (Rev. b3 ContinuationoFFD-B?lof (Ui Interview of Maryr McCord .011 OTx?le20lT Jung; 11 of 12 (UM Later, attorney Brooker told McCord he'd gotten a similar request and hadn't called Eisenberg back. McCord considered it inappropriate for Eisenberg to ask for information of that nature. SUI Congressional Interactions ?rtta-[Agent note: Pages 53-81 of McCord?s notes are various drafts of a document entitled "Talking Points re Crossfire Hurricane Cases.? The talking points in the document were drafted in preparation for a Congressional briefing on the FBl*s investigations into ties between Russia and members of the Trump campaign. The pages include handwritten comments as well as in ?track changes."] iUl (UAW l?vlcCord believed that after brie?ng Boente on the investigation, the topic of a Congressional brie?ng to the ?Gang of 8" was raised. It was decided they should work on a draft to "see what talking points would look like." Given what was already out in the public, it would be hard to not provide some level of information to Congress. The FBI sent over a set of talking points for DOJ review, and the documents went back and forth with various edits. The DOJ Of?ce of Legislative Affairs was involved in the discussions on who should be briefed. (WM After reviewing the documents, McCord believed the initials ?pps? may refer to Strzok, and may be Scott Schools. The edits attributed to were either made by McCord, Toscas, or Evans. After examining the documents, McCord thinks it is possible she made handwritten edits and then those edits were later entered as track changes. (WW Page 7'3 of the handwritten notes indicate McCord had a telephone call with McCabe in which they both agreed that the level of detail in some of the talking points would lead to a lot of follow up questions that they would not necessarily want to address. McCord believes the talking points were eventually pared down. Comey Firing and Appointment of Special Counsel (UHEQUQ) McCord had no advance notice of Comey's termination as FBI Director; she learned about an hour before she was due to give a speech. McCord did not talk to McCabe, Sessions, or Rosenstein about it in the immediate aftermath. She had no part in writing the letters written by AG Jeff Sessions and DAG Rod Rosenstein. On May it), 201?, the morning after Comey was ?red, McCord attended an investigative update meeting with Bosenstein and others from [30.1. Also present were Brandon Van Grack, Evans, Gauhar, Jim Crowell, and David Laufman. Rosenstein asked them if anyone there thought he should appoint a Special Counsel for the investigation. Laufman responded that he did HE :53 bl 190-3022: (Rev. b3 we :1 {Si ContinuationoFFD-B?l of Interview of Mary McCord .011 Jung; 12 of 12 not think it necessary, as the prosecutors in Counterintelligence and Export Control Section could handle it. Rosenstein followed with something like. ?So nobody here thinks I should appoint a Special Counsel?" McCord was the only one who spoke up, and she told Rosenstein that a Special Counsel may not be legally required, but they needed to consider their tolerance for public perception of the impartiality of the investigation. Administrative (um Copies of McCord?s notes from her time as Acting Assistant Attorney General for DOJ NSD were provided by DOJ to 8A5 and on July 13, 2017' (documented in b6 serial 50 of this case ?le) A subset of those notes was used in the interview of McCord. SA mo numbered the pages ?1 - 90 for ease of reference; those numbers are used in the text above. The numbered notes will be maintained in the case file. b5 Per ooJfoIP b6 b'rc (WM McCord provided nineteen pages of unclassified emails and a calendar printout, which she had pulled and reviewed in advance of the interview to refresh her memory. Those documents will be maintained in the case files 131 ha hilE SE Ill?J 1:1 1:3 136 {ngC Ems -l of 12- ;m ?33 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ism} 3 EIJ-3H2 ?ies: 5-3-1n) as: INFO. CLASSIFIED as: REASON: 1.4 DECLASSIFY ow; 12?31?2n42 03?15?2019 Date ofcmn- 09f07f2017 b6 b7C (U) SALLY YATES, date of birthl I cellular telephone number interviewed at the Special Counsel's Office spaces at 395 Street SW, Washington, D.C. Yates was accom anied by her personal email address David O'Neil, telephone number I I from the law offices of Debevoise Plimpton. Participating in the interview were FBI Special Agents (SA) I Isl I and Special Counsel?s Office attorneys Andrew Goldstein and Elizabeth Prelogar. After being advised of counsel, the identities of the interviewing team and the purpose of the interview, Yates provided the following information: Michael] Kislyak on January 5, b1 b3 Yates? Awareness of the calls: Yates first learned of the December 2016 calls between [Russian Ambassador to the United States, 2017, while in the Oval Office. then-FBI Director James Comey, then-CIA Director John Brennan, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and Sergey] Yates, along with and then- were at the White House to brief members of the Obama Administration on the classified Intelligence Community Assessment on Russian Activities in Recent U.S. President Obama was joined by his National Security Advisor, After the briefing, Obama dismissed the group but asked Yates and Comey to stay Elections. Susan Rice, and others from the National Security Council. [mostigatiun on File nF' I I behind. and his conversation with Kislyak about sanctions. he did not want any additional information on the matter, information on whether the White House should be treating At that point, the President was talking about, but figured it out based differently, given the information. Yates conversation. Yates recalled Comey mentioning the Logan Act, Obama started by saying he had "learned of the information about Obama specified but was seeking any had no idea what on the but can't recall if he specified there was an "investigation." Comey did not talk on: l.4{b) Derived Securi i3). Washington, District Of Columbia, 08f15f201T Person} United States bl b3 b6 {In by I Dem: dm?cd 08f16f2017 b7E FB?j??gl278}1027 This document canmins naithcs' sic-r conclusions of [he FBI. [1 is propcny OF FBI and is loaned distributed outside your agency. bl (Rev. b3 0f 9* YAEES .0n 03f15f201T gm :53 Jung; 2 Of 12 about prosecution in the meeting. It was not clear to Yates from where the President first received the information. Yates did not recall Comey?s response to the President?s question about how to treat She was so surprised by the information she was hearing that she was having a hard time processing it and listening to the conversation at the same time. Upon leaving the White House, Yates called Mary McCord, the Acting Assistant Attorney General for the National Security Division (NED) at the time, to ask what was going on and why Yates hadn?t been aware of bl it previously. Yates and McCord briefly spoke when Yates returned to DOJ, h3 and McCord had already scheduled a meeting for that afternoon to discuss the information. Yates kept the previously scheduled afternoon meeting on the calendar. Yates learned McCord and George Toscas had been briefed on the information by the FBI the day before, and they then told Yates what they knew. Yates could not recall whether DOJ had in their possession Egis?? Yates, McCord, and others had a discussion in that meeting b1 about whether this constituted a violation of the Logan Act, but there was 53 no close analysis of the substance of the discussions. The feeling among NSD attorneys was behavior was a technical violation of the Logan Act, but they were not sure this would have a lot of jury appeal, or if pursuing it would be a good use of the power of the Justice Department. Yates had the impression the FBI was more eager to pursue prosecution initially. (U) Discussions Regarding Notification to White House In early January, DOJ began to "ramp up" their discussions b1 regarcing in reaction to a David Ignatius column describing the phone calls in early January 201?, followed by a statement by Sean Spicer around January 13, in which Spicer denied there was sanctions talk on the calls and and stated that the calls were logistical. The false statement by Spicer, which Yates assessed to be the White House "trying to tamp down" the attention, caused DOJ to really start to wonder what they should do. On January 15, 201?, things 1?'really got hot." On that day, Vice President Pence was on Face the Nation and stated publicly he'd spoken to and had been told there had been no discussion of sanctions with Kislyak. Yates recalled she was in New York City that b1 weekend, and received a call from McCord notifying her of the b3 i .1 LITI hi I b3 (Rm: ni-nH-m} I =15] Interview of Sally Q. Yates .On 08f15f201T me 3 of 12 statements. Prior to this, there had been some discussion about notifying the White House, but nothing had been decided. Until the Vice President made that statement on TV, there was a sense that they may not need to notify the White House, because others at the White House may already be aware of the calls. Following January 15, 2017, discussions regarding and notification to the White House amplified. Yates described several different combinations of people having conversations about the case, to include internal DOJ discussion, and FBI discussions; DOJ KNSD and the intelligence community; Yates and the Deputy Director of the CIA, David Cohen; Yates and Mike Dempsey from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence; and McCord and the General Counsel at ODNI, Bob Litt. According to Yates, the feeling among the intelligence community was that the White House needed to be notified, because the Vice President was entitled to know he'd been saying something untrue to the public. Yates believed put the Vice President in a position to lie to the American people, creating a compromise situation for As this was happening before the Inauguration, Yates? view was the White House should know what the National Security Advisor had been doing before he was officially ?in the chair? and in the job. b1 per FBI and ODNI b3 per FBI and ODNI h?E Prior to inauguration, Yates recalled a conversation with either Comey or Deputy Director Andy McCabe regarding notification, and recalled that the FBI was resistant to the idea. Yates recalled Comey?s view was that no one really knew if the Vice President was aware of the calls. The DOJ response was that they shouldn?t assume the Vice President was aware and had knowingly lied. Yates said at the time that DOJ wanted to treat the incoming administration the same as the outgoing, and thinks Comey agreed that if this had happened to the Obama Administration, he would have just called Denis McDonough [Chief of Staff to President Obama]. Yates thought the position was driven by a sense that the FBI didn?t want to mess up future relations with the incoming administration, since ?we?re going to have to work with these guys." However, Yates didn't think that was the sole factor in not wanting to b1 notify. 23E FD-mza (Rev. 05?03-10} b3 IUterView 0f SallY 9* Yates .0n 03f15f201T .m .. 1 .E 1 I '11 Jung; 4 Of 12 The FBI said at some point that notification would mess up an ongoing investigation, but Yates said it was not always clear what exactly the FBI was doing to investigate In the days immediately leading up to inauguration, Yates was really pushing to notify, while Comey was still very resistant. Yates explained that she understood the criminal equities, but other things should be factored in, such as whether the Logan Act would be prosecuted. It was important to Yates that they all be on the same page and noted that Cohen in particular agreed with her position. . bl 3! :E?zy?f On or around the day before inauguration, there was an event b3 at which Comey, Brennan, and Clapper were all present. Cohen relayed to Yates that Clapper and Brennan were going to pull Comey aside to talk to him about notification at that event. That night, Cohen called her and said Comey had said something to the effect of there being an ?ongoing criminal investigation? and notification would interfere with it. Generally, when the Intelligence Community learns of a ?crimiral investigation." their reaction is to back off and defer to the FBI. IYates did not herself believe the investigation would be negatively impacted, but Brennan and Clapper backed off after their talk with Comey. day passed without any notification to the White House regarding but Yates still felt they had to to figure out what to do. b1 The Monday following inauguration, Spicer "doubled down" on b3 the calls. He was "quite emphatic" that had one call with b7E Kislyak, there were four topics, and sanctions weren't one of them. At that point, Yates decided "enough was enough? and decided it was time to notify the White House. She talked to the trial attorneys in NSD, and they collectively agreed it was more important to notify than to protect any investigation at that point. The next day, Tuesday, Yates gathered her staff and they discussed notification to the White House. They agreed Yates should be accompanied by Mary McCord, an NSD career attorney and subject matter expert on the topic. Yates placed a call to Comey and the group waited for him to call back. When Comey called later Yates is not certain now if he was returning her call or placing a new call he informed her that two agents were on their way to interview Mike at the White House. b1 b3 (Rm: IUterView 0f SallY 9* Yates .On 03f15f201T .. 1 .E 1 '11 . Page Yates was very frustrated in the call with Comey. She felt a decision to conduct an interview of should have been coordinated with DOJ. There were trial attorneys at NSD working with the FBI and it was not "solely" an FBI investigation. In Yates? view, the prosecutors should be involved in coordinating the type of approach and interview 5 of 12 questions. She also thought there should have been a discussion about recording the interview. In raising these things with Comey, he said something like "you can understand why I did this,? to which Yates replied "no" and Comey responded he didn't want it to "look political." Yates was offended by the implication. Yates relayed to her team that the FBI was conducting an interview and they "hit the roof.? She believed the agents had been tasked to do the interview, likely because of the recent Spicer statements. Yates added the interview was problematic to her because as a matter of protocol and as a courtesy, the White House Counsel?s Office should have been notified of the interview. The approach was inconsistent with how things had been done. Yates received a brief readout of the interview the night it happened, and a longer readout the following day. The gist of what she was told was that was very accommodating, but the agents had not confronted him directly with the informationl lbut he was "nudged" at one point and he said something like "oh, thank you for reminding me." Yates could not recall the specifics of that interaction. denied having a conversation about sanctions. Yates did not speak to the interviewing agents herself, but understood from others that their assessment was that showed no "tells" of lying and it was possible he really did not remember the substance of his calls with Kislyak. On the other hand, the DOJ prosecutors were very skeptical that would forget the discussion. After the interview NSD asked FBI if they wanted to do another interview, and the FBI said no. McCabe also said as much to McCord. Yates does not know why the FBI did not want to re?interview, but recalled them being pretty emphatic about it. Yates does not recall if they had a discussion on any exposure to 18 USC 1001, but she did remember McCord effectively "cross examining" the statements made to the interviewing agents as compared to the transcriptsb1 FD-Tmza (Rev. 05-03-10} h?E IUterView 0f SallY 9* Yates .On 03f15f201T .. 1 .E 1 '11 Jung; 6- Of 12 reiterated that in hearing about the interview, the DOJ prosecutors thought was lying, but the FBI didn't say he wasn't lying, just that he didn?t exhibit any "tells" that he was lying. McCabe told Yates that . . he was convinced was lying. He noted that wasn't as b' b1 engaged in the conversation until the part about the sanctions. NSD told Yates at some point that the interviewing agents hadn?t read the full transcripts prior to the interview. After the readouts of the interview, DOJ held internal discussions about what to do next, as they still wanted to notify the White House. After confirming the FBI did not want to do a second interview, Yates decided they should notify. She called Comey and told him she was going to notify the White House Counsel about She wanted to gauge his reaction to her decision, and Comey said it was a great idea, and agreed a "lawyer to lawyer" talk made sense. Yates acknowledged there was a chance that notifying would have some impact on the investigation, but it was outweighed by the national security concerns. Yates notified Mike Dempsey at ODNI and a woman whose name she could not recall at CIA in advance of her notification to the White House. (U) January 26, 2017 White House Notification The morning of January 26, 20l7, Yates called Don McGahn, the White House Counsel and told him she had a "sensitive matter" to discuss with him and she couldn't do it over the phone. They agreed to meet that afternoon. Yates and McCord met in McGahn?s office with him and one of his associates from the White House Counsel?s Office. b1 b3 Yates and McCord did not have transcripts with them, but they a document that summarizec because Yates EH wanted to be able to give them some examples while they talked. She did not take notes and does not recall if McCord took notes. Her impression is that McGahn's associate took notes, but she does not recall if McGahn took any. b1 b3 Yates set up the conversation by laying out the fact that 1 conversation with the Russian Ambassador had been the subject of a lot of interest lately. She mentioned the Vice President?s appearance on iaiFace the Nation and Spicer's statements. Yates then explained that they b1 5U) W, 1032 a5) ME (Rm: Interview of Sally Q. Yates .011 08f15f2017? Communion of [12 of Page knew what the Vice President and Spicer said was not true, and then told them how they knew it. She told them how they knew, because she didn?t want them to think there was a wiretap on but she did want them to know they had hard evidence. She told them that not only did discuss sanctions, and provided 4 specific examples. Yates pointed out that actually made a specific request to Kislyak that the Russians not overreact and that they minimize their response, and Kislyak affirmed he had "taken it to the highest levels" and their response was because of the request. of 12 The specific asks was making, and the back and forth between him and Kislyak, were contrary to what was being represented in the media at the time. Yates added she was not saying the Vice President was being deliberately misleading, and McGahn noted that he could guarantee anything the Vice President said he?d heard directly from Iaim?fi Yates also told McGahn had been interviewed by the FBI that week. McGahn asked Yates "how he did" but Yates declined to answer. She "sort of shrugged" in response and wanted to give the impression that "all was not good." McGahn asked Yates if the investigation was criminal, and Yates declined to answer. She added that she wouldn?t normally answer that question. Yates stated it is a violation of the Logan Act for someone not a member of the administration to advocate a position contrary to the current administration position. When asked, Yates recalled the Logan Act b7E b1 190-3022: (Rev. {15-03-10} . . $53 Continuationc-FFD-B?lof Interview of Sally Q. Yates .011 08f15f2017' Jung; 8 of 12 definitely came up in her second meeting with McGahn but could not recall if it came up in the first one. b1 Yates told McGahn the reason they were telling him about the b3 calls was that the underlying conduct itself was problematic, plus lied to the Vice President, Spicer, and the Chief of Staff, causing those people to in turn lie to the American people. The fact that the Russians were aware of the lie created a compromise situation for b1 Mm- b3 Yates explained she was providingi' the information to Mceahn so he could take whatever action he deemed appropriate. She described McGahn and his associate?s reactions as "reeling." She cannot recall if they asked her what they could do, but she did not offer a recommendation. She did personally think privately that would be fired. (UKIEEBGI At the conclusion of the meeting, which was about thirty minutes, McGahn and his associate thanked them, and Yates and McCord left. Yates and McCord remarked to one another that the meeting "went better than they thought it would." Yates thought McGahn and his associate fully appreciated the seriousness of what was discussed. Yates was not sure if she expected a follow up to the b1 meetin . She did expect McGahn to ask to read the transcripts El :3 1 but he didn't in that initial meeting. Comey personally to let him know, but she does believe someone at NSD b3 per ODNI Yates GOES not she called bl per ODNI notified someone at FBI. (U) January 27,2017 White House MEeting On.the morning of Friday, January 27, 2017 Yates received a call from McGahn in which he requested another meeting, ideally for that evening. They ultimately scheduled a meeting for late afternoon that day, and Yates again took McCord with her to the White House for the meeting where they met with McGahn and the same associate as the previous day. The second meeting was a distinct "tenor change? from the first. While the first meeting didn't feel adversarial, McGahn started the second meeting with something like, "What?s it to DOJ if one White House official lies to another?" Yates was a little taken aback by that and explained again the same reasons for their concern that she had the day before. She told McGahn that there was more to this than one official lying to JUN l5? (Rm: IUterView 0f 9* Yates .On 03f15f201T b3 b?E Jung; 9 Of 12 another, and actions themselves were problematic, especially when followed by lies and the public getting a false statement. Yates described McGahn?s initial commentary was as almost as if he was saying "what?s the crime?" McGahn said to her at one point something along the lines of "Oh, come on, what are the chances DOJ will prosecute the Logan Act?" Yates? impression was McGahn was trying to let her know he knew the Logan Act had never been prosecuted and was minimizing the seriousness of actions. Yates got the sense that McGahn had done some research and clearly knew what the Logan Act was by that point. Yates told McGahn that putting aside whether or not anyone had been successfully prosecuted for a Logan Act violation, they were missing the point that they had a potential compromise situation with their National Security Advisor. McGahn asked Yates if should be fired, and she told him it was not for DOJ to make that call. McGahn told Yates the White House did not want to take any action that would interfere with the investigation, and she replied that he should not worry about it, that DOJ had made the notification specifically so the White House could act on it. Yates does not recall if she told McGahn the investigation into was a ?criminal" investigation, but she knows at the time there was no official decision on prosecution. Yates had the impression McGahn was looking for a reason not to act, and DOJ did not want the White House to be able to use the ongoing investigation as an excuse not to act. Yates "really hammered" that the White House could and should act because she wanted to make sure they couldn't use the investigation as a shield. ?g?psr McGahn asked Yates if the White House could review the transcripts, and she said they were inclined to agree, but would get back to them. At that point, DOJ had already agreed they would probably provide access to the transcripts if asked, but they would need to talk to the FBI. Yates had no sense of what happened between the two meetings. Yates did not get the impression McGahn was fishing for more information on the investigation, but would have shut down that line of questioning if he had. She doesn't recall whether McGahn asked about 1001 violations or the FBI interview of in the second meeting. She did b1 not say that DOJ was or wasn't going to prosecute the Logan Act, as she b3 ,U-j . b1 (Rev. IUterView 0f SallY 9* Yates .0n 03f15f201T Jung; 10 Of 12 doesn't think it was decided at that point in time. Yates added she wouldn?t have told the White House if it had been decided. Yates believed McGahn "got it" that they couldn't use the b1 ongoing investigation as a reason not to act on b3 The second meeting, which was shorter in duration than the one the day prior, ended shortly after the request for transcripts. b1 b3 En route to DOJ, Yates and McCord discussed the transcripts and agreed McCord would talk to the FBI about accessing the transcripts, which McCord would do that weekend. Upon returning to DOJ, Yates likely told Matt Axelrod about the meeting with McGahn. It?s also likely erlrod and McCord told others about the meeting. Yates is not sure if she told Comey about the second White House meeting herself, but she is sure someone at NSD told someone at the FBI. Yates was scheduled to spend that weekend in Atlanta, and as she was getting ready to go to her plane, Axelrod called her to let her know about the travel ban that had been announced that afternoon. She spent the rest of her weekend working on issues surrounding that. Yates was not aware at the time that Comey had dinner with President Trump the evening following her second meeting with McGahn. She first learned about it when Comey testified before Congress in June. b1 h3 (U) White House Follow-Up h?E On the morning of Monday, January 30, 201?, Yates called McGahn, and not reaching him immediately, asked for a call back. McCord had told Yates that the FBI had made the arrangements for the transcript review, so Yates wanted to let McGahn know the transcripts were ready. By the time McGahn called her back that afternoon, Yates had issued a directive to the Department of Justice not to defend the travel ban that had come out the previous Friday, so she assumed McGahn wanted to talk about that. She realized once they started talking that he didn?t know about her directive on the travel ban and instead was asking only about the transcripts. Yates told McGahn the transcripts were available but he would need to go to the FBI to review them, and then decided she should tell him about her directive regarding the travel ban. Yates was surprised he didn't know, having assumed the senior administration official at DOJ bl would have told the White House by then. b3 . i33- b1 (Rm: h7E . . Continuationc-FFD-B?lof Interview of Sally Q. Yates .011 08f15f2017' Jung; ll of 12 A few hours after Yates told McGahn about her actions regarding the travel ban, she was fired. {:53 . . . b1 Yates was gone by the time the White House reviewed the b3 transcripts, but she heard it was some period of time before they did the review. Her understanding was the arrangement for the review would take place at the FBI. Yates was aware of another related issue happening around the same time, specific to a FARA violation. She was aware NSD attorneys were interacting with counsel, but the specifics had not risen to her level at the time. She did not share that information with McGahn. bl Yates did not interact with the media regarding the hg Kislya calls or her interactions with the White House. b7E Yates was surprised wasn't fired earlier, given the reaction to the first meeting. (UKZEQEQE Yates noted her schedule at DOJ might provide some insight into her meetings, but not everything made it to her calendar. Her assistant at the time of her departure was Josh Mogil. Yates said Spicer?s characterization of her notification to the White House as a "heads up" was not accurate. She believes the notification, along with the way it was done, sent a more deliberate message than merely a "heads up." Administrative bl E) b3 b6 IAs Yates no longer has an active security clearance, FBI Assistant Director Bill Priestap, an Original Classification Authority, provided authorization for Yates to review and discuss the classified material. Yates signed an FBI "Classified Information Non-Disclosure Statement" both on August 14 and August 15, .- 2017. El FBI Assistant Director Bill Priestap also provided clearance b1 authority forl Ito remain present in the interview in the event claSSified information was discussed. s1 ned an FBI "ClasSified . . ?3 . . Information Non-Disclosure Statement" prior to the interview. 1.7m bl I 133 (Rev. 05?03-105? qu lb! ContinuationoFFD-B?lof Interview of Sally Q. Yates .011 08f15f2017' Jung; 12 of 12 The original Non-Disclosure statements are being maintained in the 1A section of the case file nim2mm:ssun -1 of 16- Dntcofeniry' Ulf29f2019 Stephen K. BANNON was interviewed at the Special Counsel?s Office, located at Patriots Plaza I, 395 Street SW, Washington, DC. Bannon was by his attorneys 1 Present for the interview were Special Agents (SA) I . Intelligence Analyst (IA) ha Senior Counselor to the Special Counsel James L. Quarles, b7: 'Senior Assistant Special Counsels Jeannie Rhee and Andrew Goldstein, Assistant Special Counsel Aaron Zelinsky. During the second half of the interview, Senior Assistant Special Counsel Zainab Ahmad and Staff Operations Specialist (SOS) were present. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, BANNON provided the following information: Roger STONE had told BANNON, by phone and other methods, that he had a relationship with Julian ASSANGE. STONE had been bragging about his relationship with ASSANGE on Twitter, during interviews, etc. The conversation where STONE told BANNON he had a relationship with ASSANGE was about other things and STONE had brought up his relationship with ASSANGE. This was prior to BANNON joining the Trump Campaign. STONE was kind of a ?braggart? and the conversation might have been around a time when STONE came on Sreitbart Radio. STONE described the nature of his relationship with ASSANGE in a way that STONE knew him or had a personal relationship. It was implied that STONE knew ASSANGE and knew what ASSANGE was doing. b5 On lOf4/2016 ASSANGE was supposed to have a press conference which didn't happen and was a non-eventJ b6 relationshi with STONE rior to 8fl3f2016 was one where STONE would brag to BANNON while he was at Breitbart. STONE was known as the ?Trump whisperer?. I lm'esiigoiionon 10f26f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} 1:15 bi This doeoment contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agency: it and its contents are not to be distribulcd outside your agency. 1 278} 1 3 b7E Nil-302:1 (Rm: {35-0340} Interview of Stephen K. Eannon .On 10f26f2018 img what WikiLeaks had, the implication from STONE was that it would be be good for Donald TRUMP. The implication that it would be stuff damaging 573 or embarrassing to the CLINTON camp. BANNON wondered how tey could verify b7: the authenticity. If it was somehow linked to the 33,000 missing emails, that would be the ?money shot?. BANNON thought the white whale was the 33,000 missing emails from CLINTON. BANNON spent the spring of 2016 trying to find them. BANNON thought the 33,000 missing emails were the Holy Grail, but even if they found them, there was no way to verify that they were real. contact with BANNON typically regardedl STONE bragging. STONE never talked about the 33,000 missing emailsJ The weekend after the 10f?f2016 WikiLeaks release somebody was trying to take credit for the timing of the release of the Podesta emails after the ?Billy Bush thing?. BANNON described the events surrounding 10f?f2016 as the sum and substance of the campaign. BANNON could not remember who it was, but someone on the campaign was relaying that someone who was not on b6 the campaign was trying to take credit for the timing of the WikiLeaks releases and getting ASSANGE to release the information. I ch IBANNON speculated it could have beenl I The person trying to take credit for the timing of the WikiLeaks releases was likely STONE. STONE was the only person, to 5 knowledge, who was claiming to have a relationship with ASSANGE and WikiLeaks. BANNON was shown an email dated 10f04/2016, Bates stamped When BANNON wrote ?What as that this and ?He didn?t cut deal Fo-mza (Rm. [us?nun} Interview of Stephen K. Bannon .On 10f26f2018 img 3 of 16 wf he was referring to ASSANGE. he BANNON didn?t have a professional relationship with I during the summer of 2016. BANNON could barely remember during his time on the Trump Campaign during the fall of 2016. was a volunteer and he could remember seeing her coming in and out of the ?war room?. b5 per DOJIOIP BANNON described as ?another person walking around?. lwas working onl Iwas not a b6 senior level person and she would help to out people in touch with BANNON. BANNON couldn?t remember b7: any instances that occurred during the campaign time frame. During the campaign, BANNON knewl lthrouch BossIE andl EANNON describedl IBANNON couldn?t remember ever talking with] BANNON couldn?t remember I IBANNON couldn?t remember ever talking with I but he wouldn?t be surprised if he did. On have been on the 14L}l floor at Trump Tower, be but BANNON didn?t specifically remember seeing her there. BANNON could b7: remember a lot of women associated with the Trum Campaign being there, such as Kellyanne CONWAY and Hope HICKS, and. lmight have been one of those. BANNON had be preparing to shoot a film with candidate TRUMP that would be posted on Facebook. The plan was to have the movie posted by 7 p. but it ended up being done at 12:00 a.m. BANNON wouldn?t be surprised if he got a text ?well done", since he thought the film was well done. b6 ISTONE would pester BANNON. STONE talked about what he was trying to do in order to be put in touch with donors. BANNON was giving the impression that he would, but didn?t remember ever doin it. STONE had contacted BANNON in order to be put in touch with the BANNON thought he put STONE in touch with the lawyers. STONE might have sent some spots to BANNON regarding the information he was putting out, or sent him some online videos, but BANNON doesn't recall looking at them. (Rm: Interview of Stephen K. Bannon .On me 4 of 16 BANNON was shown a text dated 8f2?f2016, from BANNON hG didn?t remember this text message. BANNON never heard of 9 an ref?renced in the text and BANNON didn?t remember a broiect. BANNON was aware of a planl I not involved in this plan, but BANNON was upset that STONE was taking credit for it. came to BANNON 10?14 days after BANNON took over the Trump Campaign. There were ideas on how to do this(. and to get Fox News and Sean HANNITY to do it, but Fox News and HANNITY waived off. The film was to be done on ?Billy Bush day? with it going to the news shows that weekend. STONE tried to take credit for the effort which BANNON thought was lunacy and Breitbart did not follow up on it. BANNON was shown an email dated b6 BANNON was shown an email datedl b3 b6 IBANNON barely knewl lat the time of this email. BANNON talked withl Iabout meeting with the Special Counsel?s Office (SCOH. BANNON was aware that] Ibut wasn?t aware of the contentl The only thingl Itold BANNON I BANNON described Jerome CORSI as a Harvard guy who works at World Net Dailv. BANNON thought CORSI wasl I I 136 IBANNON called CORSI and saidl because nowl Fo-rmza (Rm. (15-11240; SM-2284941 Interview of Stephen K. Sannon .On 10f26f2018 ng During the campaign, BANNON didn?t remember talking to CORSI although CORSI may have reached out. BRNNON was shown an email dated [sawwow didn?t recall any conversations aboutI I I the time, BANNON was unaware of Ted relationship tol lBefore the election win, BANNON didn?t know MALLOCH or hear about him. BANNON thought that I Iwere all ?wing?nut promoters". BANNON did have contact with MALLOCH once BANNON was in its House. BANNON didn?t know if MALLOCH had a relationship withl In 2010, BANNON came up with BOSSIE to talk to TRUMP about possibly running for president. The meeting lasted approximately two hours on the 26 L3 floor of Trump Tower. Michael COHEN was there. At the end of the meeting TRUMP asked BANNON what he thought about STONE. BANNON said he didn?t know STONE very well but thoughtl ITRUMP asked if STONE was connected. BANNON replied that STONE is IWhile BANNON was at Breitbart in 2013- 2015, BANNON had a strong relationship heard from STONE was still talking to TRUMP and was an advisor. STONE subsequently made those statements to BANNON as well. BANNON was suspect and upset. BANNON believed you had to keep TRUMP ?on program?. While BANNON was on the Trump Campaign he never heard any mention of STONE from TRUMP or anyone else on the campaign. Corey LEWANDOWSRI had said that STONE was not part of the Trump Campaign. After the win STONE tried a full court press in order to get a meeting with eventually set up a meeting with TRUMP and STONE in early December 2016 on the 26Lh floor of Trump Tower. TRUMP didn?t want to take the meeting with STONE. TRUMP told BANNON to be in the meeting and that after 5 minutes, if the meeting hadn?t concluded, to throw STONE out. STONE came in with a book he wrote and possibly had a folder and notes. I ITRUMP didn?t say much to STONE beyond ?Thanks, thanks a lot". To BRNNON, this reinforced STONE Ither five to six minutes, the meeting was over and STONE was out. STONE was. ldue to the fact that during the meeting TRUMP just stared. This reinforced what BANNON thought about STONE, that STONE was aI lsawwow never heard TRUMP talk about STONE. The 2010 conversation with TRUMP about STONE was the only time, to the best of recollection. BANNON never heard that STONE was talking to candidate TRUMP while BANNON was on the campaign. BANNON never asked then candidate TRUMP if he talked with STONE. Candidate TRUMP could have talked to STONE, without BANNON knowing about it, and he had the opportunity to do so. BANNON was not aware of who TRUMP talked b7E (Rm: (U) Interview of Stephen K. Bannon .On E- of 16 Communion of of .F?ngc the evenings and they could have had a phone call. BANNON was not aware of who TRUMP was talking to in the evening, but he was definitely talking to people. BANNON did not have visibility into that. TRUMP was not shy about throwing names out of people he had talked to, and he never said STONE. Ithat sawnow fired at Breitbart. Iwho was doing research on Barack time at Harvard. At ANDREW funeral, was saying how he had a solution to birth certificate. BANNON was not b6 interested in birth certificate and was interested in how the ch Harvard research was going. Whilel I he was calling BANNON saying he heard from kids at a madrassa that DRAMA was a Muslim. At that point, in April 2012, BANNON fired . BANNON didn?t want a story out saying that Breitbart was asking kids at a madrassa about DRAMA being a Muslim. Breitbart was not interested in birth certificate, only the research about time at Harvard from the files at NYU. contact with lwas only occasional texts and emails from Ito BANNON in which BANNON did not respond. BANNON was shown an email dated] b6 b75451. RANNON was shown an email dated b5 subjectzl I During the transition out and sent emails to b6 BANNON offering help, for example saying he knew the Polish Prime Minister. BANNON didn?t remember any outreach froml BANNON knew and described him as a be BANNON was not aware of[ Ibut he wouldn't be surprised if he did. Iwas into stuff like thatJ I b5 per b6 FD-mza (Rm; Interview 0f Stephen K- Bannon _On 10f26f2018 Jay 7 of 16 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 RANNON was shown an email dated When BANNON wrote ?Love it? in the email, he was saying he thought it was fantastic, epic, and that he wasn?t going to get back to you. There would be no follow on. BANNON described it as a ?quasi blow? off?. 1:16 I When BANNON wrote ?Love it? he was not approving it, or else he would say he was approving it. It also did not b7: indicate that he was going to do something. At that time(. in June 2016, BANNON was going to go over to cover Brexit for Breitbart. BANNON had spent a lot of time and effort trying the find 33,000 missing emails. At the time, BANNON did not think that was dangerous as he was part of a media company. In totally blown out of ro ortion to the point where it was purported believed this story metastasized into something that was totally misconstrued and it made a tacit connection to the Trump Campaign. When BANNON wrote ?Love it", he was not saying not to do it. In June 2016, there wasn?t any reason why doing it would be wrong. In his role at a media company it was a good idea. b5 per noJfQIp b6 135 per b6 b7E (Rm: SM-2284941 (U) Interview of Stephen K. Bannon .On 10f26f2018 me 8 of 16 Communion of of b5 per DOJXOIP h5 per DOJXOIP 1:36 b5 per b6 IThe thing? caught them bv surprise and concerned BANNON since he had dealings with foreign I governments. Back then talking with a foreign government was ok. The Foreign Agents Registration Act (PARA) was a part of the indictment. BANNON was concerned he would be investigated for dealing with foreign governments even though he did nothing wrong. Spegial qunsel?s foige had an ?open writ" and was a fishing expedition. Fo-rmza (Rm. [us?nun} Commemn?FDJ?lM?iU} Interview 0f Stephen K- Bannon .On 10f26f2018 me 9 of 16 b5 per BANNON was shown an email dated 11105f2016, from BANNON to Jared KUSHNER and BOSSIE, subject: Re: Securing the Victory. After BANNON came onto the Trump Campaign he didn?t interact with Paul MANAFORT. BANNON didn? know who MANAEORT was talking to on the campaign after his departure. At one time BANNON heard that candidate TRUMP was still meeting with MANAFORT and taking his calls. BANNON thought he might have heard this from BOSSIE, or Reince PRIEBUS. BANNON was unaware of the content of the calls, and assumed that they were campaign related. BANNON didn?t hear candidate TRUMP talk about MANAFORT. On 8f13f2016 to 8/14f2016 BANNON didn? want MANAFORT fired, just kept on with no power or authority. After the New York Times article came out about MANAFORT, BANNON knew MANAFORT was done. BANNON told TRUMP and KUSHNER that no one should have contact with MANAFORT, BANNON never talked with MANAFORT during b6 the transition timeframe. BANNON ?picked up in the ether? that the Russians were working with WikiLeaks. BANNON was 100: convinced they would win the election. BANNON had no knowledge of MANAFORT providing advice to KUSHNER. KUSHNER was the one who fired MANAFORT. After MANAFORT was fired, BANNON was unaware of any meetings between KUSHNER and MANAFORT. The last BANNON had spoken with MANAFORT was around 8/14/2016 to 8f15f2016. MANAFORT sent BANNON an email around the debates, and a congratulatory email after the win. There was no other conversation surrounding this email. When BANNON came onto the Trump Campaign, they were in a ?free fall? and were down 20 points. BANNON had gone up to visit MANAFORT in Trump Tower. The New York Times story had come out that associated MANAFORT with Russia, since the stor was about MANAFORT taking money from UkrainefRussia and that MANAFORT BANNON thought h?C MANAFORT was and could see it in the operations. BANNON did not associate WikiLeaks with Russia but believed that it was a narrative that was derived from media stories. BANNON did not discuss the topics of this email with anyone else in the campaign, besides this email itself. There b6 were no discussions on the Trump Campaign during this timeframe on whether WikiLeaks was working with the Russians. BANNON believed that this was ?noise? and he was more worried about the fact that they were 6 to points down. BANNON couldn?t remember if there were any conversations from when he joined the Trump Campaign in August 2016 to Election Day on whether Russia and WikiLeaks were working together. BANNON couldn?t remember, but he wouldn?t be surprised if those conversations may have occurred. GIULIANI, or Chris CHRISTIE might have talked about it, and that it was in the ?realm of possibility?. BANNON had no recollection on preparing for answers to debate questions that the Russians had hacked a political opponent. BANNON didn?t remember meeting with Erik PRINCE during early January 2017. BANNON did remember PRINCE coming in three to four times during the b7E (Rm: (U) Interview of Stephen K. Bannon .On onlimmlion of of Ja?gc 1 0 6 transition timeframe. RANNON has no memory of discussing George NADER with PRINCE. RANNON met NADER months later. ERNNON didn?t remember PRINCE telling him that he would be travelling to the Seychelles prior to his trip. PRINCE did not tell BANNON that he would be meeting with a Russian individual in the Seychelles. PRINCE didn?t tell BANNON about Kirill DMITRIEV prior to PRINCE meeting DMITRIEV in the Seychelles. PRINCE didn?t talk with BANNON about an individual associated with the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF) prior to PRINCE travelling to the Seychelles. PRINCE didn?t tell BRNNON about a Vladimir PUTIN associated individual that he would be meeting with prior to trip to the Seychelles. PRINCE didn?t show the CV of a Russian individual to RANNON prior to his trip to the Seychelles. It is possible that BANNON talked with PRINCE about sanctions on Russia, but he wasn't sure about it. BANNON didn?t remember any contact with PRINCE on lfll/201T. PRINCE didn?t tell BRNNON that he was in the Seychelles and that he was meeting with a Russian individual. BRNNON did not talk to PRINCE about the Russian aircraft carrier Ruznetsov docking at a port in Libya while PRINCE was in the Seychelles. BRNNON did talk with PRINCE about Libya. PRINCE had advocated for working with the ?good guys" in Libya, in NovemberfDecember 2016, after they won the election. PRINCE never talked about working with the Russians, just the URE. BRNNON didn?t recall meeting with PRINCE on 1fl6 X2017. PRINCE never told BANNON he met with a Russian government official. PRINCE never told EANNON he met with an individual from the RDIF. PRINCE never told BANNON he met with a representative of PUTIN. PRINCE never gave a business card of an individual associated with Russia to BANNON. BANNON didn?t say anything to PRINCE about following up with the Russians. BANNON didn?t say anything to PRINCE about setting up another line of communication with Russia that he remembers. BANNON was shown a text dated 9f8f2016, Bates stamped This conversation with PRINCE was not regarding PUTIN. The text from PRINCE was in regards to debate prep. BRNNON heard PRINCE say the phrase in this text a bunch of times. EANNON used the phrase as well. BRNNON believed this was a concept on the campaign. RANNON reiterated again that PRINCE never gave BRNNON a business card from a Russian who wanted to meet with the President and he didn?t remember that happening. BANNON again said PRINCE never told him he met with a Russian associated with the RDIF and didn?t remember that happening. PRINCE did say he met with Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed al?Nahyan (MHZ) of the UAE, but not in the Seychelles. PRINCE had said he met with MEZ to discuss Afghanistan concept, and talked with him about his ideas on the Arab League and Libya. PRINCE told BANNON he met with MBZ after the meeting happened, not before. BRNNON passed these things onto PRINCE was a business guy and BANNON didn?t know that PRINCE had a relationship with MBZ. BRNNON met MBZ in December of 2016. PRINCE travelling to the Seychelles wouldn?t have stood out to BRNNON. If PRINCE had told BRNNON he had a meeting with Russians and given BRNNON a business card from the Russians, BRNNON would have remembered it. PUTIN had called TRUMP the first morning after TRUMP took office and therefore you wouldn?t Fo-mza (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview of Stephen K. Eannon .On IOKZGKEOIB Jung; ll of 16 Communion of of need a back?channel or ?other guys running around?. In January 201? there were stories in the press that Russia was trying to help TRUMP win. BANNON believed that TRUMP had to see the documents that DRAMA had seen which convinced him to throw the 29 Russian diplomats out of the country. On lf4 BANNON was consumed with the upcoming intelligence briefing they had on 1f6f201?. PRINCE meeting with Russians would have stood out to BANNON. Receiving a business card from a Russian, through PRINCE, would have stood out to BANNON. BANNON believed that guys shouldn?t run around freelancing in a meeting such as that. PUTIN and TRUMP had called each other one to two times, so why would they need a back?channel. BANNON would have had an issue with PRINCE meeting with a Russian. BANNON did read testimony to the U.S. House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI). BANNON discussed it with PRINCE because he thought it was wrong for PRINCE to not hire a lawyer or prepare for his testimony. PRINCE believed that it was a political witch hunt, he would tell them what happened, and he didn't need a lawyer. PRINCE considered his testimony before HPSCI a ?chat?. BANNON never asked PRINCE if his testimony was truthful. b3 BANNON is in touch with PRINCE frequently. BRNNON and PRINCE never discussed the DMITRIEV meeting in the Seychelles. b5 per In regards to the texts with PRINCE on blackberry, BANNON didn? know what was kept or not kept. In regards to archiving his messages, BANNON didn?t do anything different in regards to his texts with PRINCE and just gave his phone to his secretary. BANNON did use his personal email for White House business. BANNON did not make any attempts to preserve the White House record information from his personal accounts. BANNON met Bob through Mark BURNETT. BANNON thought FORESMHN might have beenl I he BURNETT said he had a guy who was trying to save Christians in the Middle East and Russia. FORESMAN knew people in Russia, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe. BANNON rolled him over to There was zero talk about giving FORESMAN a position in the administration during the meeting with BHNNON. TO BANNON, FORESMHN didn?t seem b7E (Rm: (U) Interview of Stephen K. Bannon .On IOKZGKEOIB me 12 of 16 Communion of of ?phone guy" is located in Los Angeles. BRNNON has known him for 15 years. but didn?t remember his name. BANNON met him during his time in L.R. One of secretaries is in L.R. ?phone guy" is the one who sets up his devices. b5 per When the Special Counsel was setup there was talk about conflicts of interest right awavJ b6 h5 per DOJKOIP b6 h5 per DOJKOIP thought all of the be stated conflicts were ridiculous, I b7: did not . conflicts of interesti [the issue aboutl havingl Ias an attorney was not a conflict in the legal community. they had invited MUELLER in to give TRUMP a perspective on what the FBI was and thought they might beseech him to take the job as FBI Director. MUELLER did not come in looking for the job as FBI DirectorJ I IThe purpose of the meeting was to give TRUMP a perspective on the institution of the told TRUMP why he thought all these conflicts were ridiculous. b5 per DOJKOIP b7E Fo-mza (Rm. [us?nun} Interview Of Stephen K- Bannon .On 10f26f2013 .Wmc 13 of 16 b5 per DOJIOIP explained MUELLER, told TRUMP he didn?t think that these were eonflietsJ told TRUMP that [that?s ridiculous and pettyJ b6 and PRIEBUS pushed back on the conflicts of interest TRUMP raised. I b5 per b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJKOIP (Rm: (U) Interview Of Stephen K- Bannon .On Ja?gc 14 of 16 b5 per DOJKOIP 136 HR: b5 per DOJKOIP b5 per DOJKOIP b5 per DOJKOIP b7E (Rm. (15-11240; [jaw?2284941 (U) Interview of Stephen K. Bannon .On 10f26f2018 .Wmc 15 of 16 b5 per BANNON never talked to TRUMP or KUSHNER about injecting money into the campaign. Jeff DEWIT, KUSHNER, and BANNON were going through the cash flow. They realized that they were going to need $15 million dollars. They would need to generate more money or the candidate would have to write a check. KUSHNER said, as far as the candidate writing a check, that was not going to happen. KUSHNER said he was not a guy who while six to eight points down, was going to write $25 million dollar checks. They were not even in the hunt. Coming out of the last debate, they were in fantasy land, they were so far behind. TRUMP is a probability guy, and if it?s not a dead lock, don?t expect $25 million. Since KUSHNER said there was no way this was going to happen they worked to get it down to $10 million. Steve MNUCHIN came up with a cash flow plan. MNUCHIN called it a cash advance. They had enough money coming from small donors that it would lag to it and this money would eventually come in. Just this last $10 million was needed to come in to buy the television time. MNUCHIN would structure it like a loan and he had a term sheet, but it was like a cash advance. They had a five hour conversation with TRUMP. MNUCHIN, BANNON, KUSHNER, and TRUMP were present. MNUCHIN turned over the term sheet, which was structured as a loan, and he had the wire instruction documents for the $10 million. TRUMP didn?t know that MNUCHIN had the documents ready. It was ten days to two weeks ahead of Election Day and they couldn?t do the final television spot without it. BANNON didn?t think TRUMP even read the documents. TRUMP wasn?t thrilled that MNUCHIN had the wire instructions ready. BANNON didn? think that TRUMP talked to] MCGAHN, or DEWIT from the b6 Trump Organization. The conversation about the $10 million with TRUMP b7C started on the 26Lh floor of Trump Tower, with MNUCHIN, BRNNON, KUSHNER and TRUMP. They were flying to a campaign stop so they continued the conversation on the plane. They kept working on TRUMP until he couldn?t take it anymore, and then MNUCHIN pulled out the sheets with the wire instructions. TRUMP was convinced the cash would be there. TRUMP understood the logic of it. b5 per DOJKGIP As far as the messages on his phone being deleted prior to 2f23f201?, BANNON was told all of his stuff was deleted. BANNON never deleted the b7E Nil-302:1 (Rm: 05-0340} Elm?2284941 (U) Interview of Stephen K. Bannon .On 10f26f2018 onlimmlion of of Ja?gc 1 6 6 PRINCE messages himself. BANNON never discussed with anyone about deleting his messages with PRINCE. BANNON didn?t know why they were deleted and didn?t tell anyone else to delete the PRINCE messages. BANNON was told everything was deleted before a certain date. BANNON never deleted his messages with PRINCE or instructed, asked, or told anyone to delete his messages. BANNON never set up a function to not to retain his messages. BANNON didn?t discuss with his tech guys on why these messages were missin . The only other person who had access to Blackberry was b6 and that was only once or twice. BANNON had ?no idea? b7: on why the messages were deleted. BANNON did not have a lot of contacts with during the election. b6 BANNON didn?t remember what his interactions with during the campaign consisted of. From approximately March to May of 2016I Ihad b$c come with a concept to show thatl I BANNON was just making sure that blow him up. BANNON thought that was another guy who was better] IBANNON didn?t remember what they were discussing. It waan a big enough deal for BANNON to remember, he got texts from a lot of people. BANNON thoughtl I BANNON thought that if you don't keep guys like STONEI [happy they eventually would settle scores in their books. When investigator detailed the amount of calls and messages BANNON had during the campaign, BANNON didn't know what the messages about, but BANNON said they were likely talking about the election or BANNON didn't know anything about WeSearchr or anything about using crowd sourced funds for bounty information. BANNON didn?t know anything about getting getting hacked or leaked information. BANNON didn?t remember anything about passing deep web or hacked information. BENNON didn't remember anything any information from WikiLeaks.I Iwas always talking about his relationship withI I I Italked about the dark web/deep web, but BANNON didn?t remember the specifics. BANNON was not interested in dark web telling BANNON about his theories about or an idea of what district he should be in. say that he knows stuff from the dark come up with stuff like helping on social media and helping to find stuff on the dark might have mentioned the 33,000 missing CLINTON emails while BANNON was looking for have talked to BHNNON about his efforts to get in contact with WikiLeaks. BANNON didn?t remember the information that was trying to get from WikiLeaks or the access. The only time spoke to BANNON about his meetings with WikiLeaks were the two emails. On the campaign, might have mentioned the dark web. Iwould have outside the box ideas like getting the DNA Iwould text with BHNNON about these things. The dark web was always talk about. It was likelyl Ihad told BANNON he had a contact with WikiLeaks in only these two emails. Ipossibly texted BANNON about WikiLeaks. b7E (Rev. -1 of 12- Dntcofentn? U5f01f2018 Erik Dean Prince, date of birth was interviewed at the Special Counsel's Office Washington, D.C. Present representing b5 Prince were and I The interviewing team were FBI Special Agentsl land I land Assistant Special Counsels Jeannie Rhee, Zainab Ahmad and Aaron Zelinsky. Prior to the start of the interview, ASC Zelinsky verbally reviewed the terms of a letter setting forth the agreement upon which Prince made himself available for the interview (Document 1). Prince stated that he understood the terms of the letter agreement. Prince b6 the letter. After being advised of the identities of the interview team b7: and the nature of the interview, Prince provided the following information: Prince was not initially a Donald Trump supporter. As the campaign heated up, Prince found that he agreed with many of Trump?s positions. Prince spoke withI about holding a fundraiser for Trump. I Itold Prince that the Campaign had rejected Prince's request to hold a fundraiser because Prince was too controversial. Prince did not speak with anyone else in the Campaign about the fundraiser. Prince contributed money directly to the Trump Campaign. Prince also hG donated at a Las Vegas event, to a Political Action Committee (PAC) run by the nd to Roger Stone?s ads and social media efforts regarding Prince met Steve Bannon in 2013 at an event held at Breitbart for Prince's book. Bannon and Prince hold similar beliefs on many issues. Bannon knew Prince?s experience and respected Prince's knowledge of certain matters. Bannon had Prince as a regular call-in guest on Bannon?s radio show. During the campaign, Prince sent Bannon mostly unsolicited policy papers. Prince was introduced to Donald Trump, Jr. at Trump Tower. may have introduced Prince to Trump, Jr. The first meeting was brief, Prince expressed his support and encouragement tmestigotionon qu04f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {In Person} Filc?r'I I Dotedi'aitcd 04f05f2018 by This docmnent contains neither recommendations nor conclusions to be distributed outside your agency. of the FBI. [1 is the pioperty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not Interview of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .On 04f04f2018 2 of 12 for the Trump Campaign. Prince met Trump, Jr. approximately two more times at Trump Tower before the election. At one of the meetings, Trump, Jr. asked if Prince had met Trump. Prince said no. Trump, Jr. walked Prince into a room and introduced Prince to Trump. Trump and about ten other people were in the room and Mike Pence was on the telephone. Prince organized a meetin between and Trump, Jr. to discuss Iranian civil rights issues. introduced Prince to Prince met in the Brussels Airport a year or two before their meeting with Trump, Jr. At the airport, I b6 Prince is not aware of any attempts Ito get money from foreign governments. During their airport Prince with some documents pitching his project. Prince does not recall the details ofl I project. b6 Sometime before the election in 2016, requested that Prince set up a meeting with a high level person connected to Trump. not request anyone in particular. Prince knew Trump, Jr. and Bannon. Prince knew Bannon better and Bannon was a policy guy. Prince does not recall b6 why he arranged the meeting with Trump, Jr. instead of Bannon. Bannon may have been unavailable because, at this time, he was very busy and often traveling with Trump. did not say that he wanted to pitch Trump, Jr. for money, only that wanted to discuss Iranian issues, such as the Obama administration?s nuclear deal with Iran and payment of cash to Iran. b6 arrived for the meeting with George Nader. Prince had not expected Nader to be with Prince had worked with Nader in Iraq around 2006. In 2006, Nader was a courtesan for the vice?President of Fo-mza (Rm. [us?nun} Interview of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .On Odf?deOlB 3 of 12 Iraq. Nader met with Trump, Jr. in Trump Jr.'s office. Prince introduced to Trump, Jr. as an Iran policy person. Prince introduced Nader as a person with knowledge of the Middle East. Prince also told Trump, Jr. that Prince had known Nader in Iraq ten years earlier. the lead on explaining why the nuclear b6 agreement with Iran was wrong. a brief synopsis of his communications project but only as a way to bolster his position for a change in Iran policy. Trump, Jr. said that it was interesting information and that he would take it onboard. Trump, Jr. had no time or interest for a granular discussion. During the meeting, never said anything about using his company to help the Trump Campaign. did not discuss anything with Prince about the Trump Campaign?s social media activities. Prince does not recall anyone else attending the meeting. Prince does not recall Stephen Miller attending the meeting. Prince believes that Nader was potential investors. Prince does not recall b5 Nader speaking at the meeting with Trump, Jr. Prince does not know if Nader had a separate agenda for attending the meeting. Prince does not recall whether he was Nader throughout the entire time that they were upstairs at Trump Tower. Prince does not business interests. Prince has heard he of the PST Group as an Israeli technology and communications company. mentioned the PSY Group to Prince, but Prince does not recall the context. Prince does not know if was associated with the PST Group. In July or August 2016, Prince had breakfast with Bannon. Bannon understood the union mentality of Trump's supporters. Bannon had been in contact with them through his radio show. Prince and Bannon discussed policy at the breakfast. Two days later, the Trump Campaign hired Bannon. Prince sold Blackwater in 2010. Prince's main policy desire was to have a president that would be open to private contractors conducting stability operations. Prince helped the UAE successfully combat Somali pirates. Prince has focused on "peripheral" areas where the Department of Defense does not have a significant presence, such as Yemen, Somalia and Libya. Prince has also focused on Afghanistan. Prince sent Bannon a policy paper "Update on Problem Areas." Prince also sent Bannon his "Case for a Private Option." Prince got the impression that Bannon had more important policy matters on his plate. Prince met Bannon a couple of times at Trump Tower before the election. Prince set up the meetings by testing Bannon or communicating b6 Prince and Bannon discussed foreign policy and (Rm: I (U) InterViEW Of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .011 Odf?'?leOlB .1?ngc 4 Of 12 trade. Prince does not recall the subject of Russia coming up during any of their discussions. b6 Prince to Roger Stone. Itold Prince that Stone was working on a 501(c)(4) Fund. I ldid not say that Bannon or the Campaign approved of Stone's fund.[ 136 EN: Stone mentioned WikiLeaks a few times. Prince began one conversation by asking what Stone thought would be released next. Prince does not recall anything that Stone said about WikiLeaks. Stone did not give Prince any inside information on the WikiLeaks release of Democratic National Committee e-mails nor any information on Stone?s contacts with Julian Assange. Prince was not aware of Stone's public statements about WikiLeaks or Stone?s contacts with Assange. Barbara Ledeen had a trove of e-mails from the dark web that were b6 purportedly deleted e-mails from Hillary Clinton?s server. Ledeen wanted b7: to authenticate the e?mails. Prince provided funding so hire a tech advisor to determine whether the e?mails were Fo-mza (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .On 04f0?lf2018 5 of 12 Communion of of Page to Prince that the tech advisor had determined b6 the e-mails were not authentic. returned the unused portion of ch Prince's money. Prince does not believe that anyone from the Campaign knew of the effort. Prince spent election night at Trump Tower watching the voting returns. cleared Prince into the event. When it appeared that be Trump would win, Prince and other people walked over to the Hilton to hear b7c Trump?s speech. Prince met Bannon in Trump Tower a few days after the election. Prince advocated for people to fill key National Security positions. Prince wanted people that would support his private approach and support disentangling America from foreign conflicts. b6 Prince returned a few weeks later and met again with Bannon. Prince again discussed personnel decisions. Trump did not select any of the individuals that Prince recommended. Prince never sought a position for himself. On one occasion, Prince rode the train back from New York to Washington, D.C. with KellyAnne Conway. They did not have any substantive conversations during the train ride. Prince met in June 2016, before the Republican convention, for b6 breakfast in Alexandria. introduced the two men. Prince and discussed foreign policy. had not yet become active in Trump?s campaign. Prince does not recall any other substantive interactions with until after the election. Post-election, and Prince had a quick meeting at Trump Tower regarding which people should fill National Security positions. Another time, Prince and met at an Irish Pub and talked about how to put out fires in peripheral areas. Prince never talked about the role of Russia with Prince met Trump three times. The first time was the introduction by Trump, Jr. in Trump Tower. The second time, Prince met Trump during a campaign event in Las Vegas before the last debate. The third time, b6 Prince met Trump at al Prince never spoke for more than a minute to Trump. The substance was always Prince expressing his support and encouragement. b6 Prince has Trump?s phone numbers in his cell phone. ch Nil-302:1 (Rm: {35-0340} CommunionofFD-??luf (U) Interview of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .On 04f0?lf2018 Jung; E- of 12 b6 b7C briefly introduced Prince to Jared Kushner while they were in Trump Tower. Prince and Kushner did not have any substantive conversations. Prince discussed National Security appointments with Dave Bossie. Prince and Bossie also discussed Robert Levinson, a former FBI Agent, that disappeared in Iran. Prince briefly met K.T. McFarland. Prince said hello to McFarland while she was in an office talking with Judge Jeanine Pirro. The earliest text messages in Prince's cell phone are from March 2017. Prince used his cell phone prior to March 201?. Prince does not know why the text messages do not go back farther than March 201?. Other than housekeeping, such as deleting spam messages, Prince has not deleted any text messages from his cell phone. I be Prince did not know in advance about the December 15, 2016 meeting in New York between Trump representatives and DAB officials. During the meeting or shortly after it, Prince met Nader in the coffee shop of the Four Seasons Hotel where the meeting was taking place. Nader said that Kushner, and Bannon were at the meeting with Mohammed Bin Zayed and other UAE officials. Nader said that they discussed Middle East issues including Iran, Syria, Iraq, the Muslim Brotherhood and terrorism generally. Prince does not know who set up the meeting. Prince reviewed a series of text messages that he and Nader exchanged on December 15, 2016 (Document 2). In the first message, Nader asked Prince when they could meet at the Pierre Hotel where Nader was staying. Prince responded that he had seen asked to come straight to b6 Trump Tower upon arriving in New York. had probably told Prince ch that Bannon had a window to see him. Prince ended up meeting Nader in the lobby of the Four Seasons Hotel. Prince agreed to give Nader a policy paper on the Muslim Brotherhood to pass on to MBZ. Prince probably went somewhere to print the paper, then returned and left it at the front desk for Nader. After their meeting in the lobby, Nader messaged Prince that Nader ?told Steven that we just met and he was delighted." Nader always stated things in the superlative. Prince had told Nader that Prince had met with Bannon. In another message on December 15, Nader writes that he cannot wait to upon our excited mission." Prince assumes that the mission is getting the UBE and Saudi Arabia (KSB) to financially support Prince's solution to end the fighting in Yemen. Prince?s solution Fo-mza (Rm. (15-11240; CommunionofFD-??lof (U) Interview of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .On 04f04f2018 7' of 12 . Page involved a smaller, more?focused, and perhaps private, armed force. Prince was confident that the UAE or KSA would go forward with this solution if Prince could get permission from the 0.5. Government. Prince met with Bannon on December 16, 2016. Bannon said that Prince was right about MBZ being a great guy. Prince had told Bannon about a 2010 conference on freedom and Islam that Prince hosted in the UAE and that MBZ had attended. After Trump won the election, Nader wanted access to as many people as possible. One time, Nader and Prince were waiting outside of Bannon's office. Prince does not believe they came to Trump Tower together. Prince does not recall any meetings that he attended with both Bannon and Nader. Trump, Jr. walked by and Nader attempted to talk with him. Trump, Jr. told Nader not to contact him anymore because he no longer handled policy matters. Trump, Jr. separately told Prince that he wanted Nader to stop texting him all the time. Nader received inauguration tickets from somebody at the stratum of Kushner. After inauguration, in May or June 201?, Prince ran into Nader in the White House. Nader did not say who he was meeting in the White House. Prince reviewed messages between himself and Nader (Document On December 20, 2016, Nader messaged Prince about Nader visiting the "neighboring country.? Prince interpreted the ?neighboring country? as Saudi Arabia and that Nader would be meeting with Mohammed bin Salman (MES). Prince interpreted Nader?s reference to going "big real hunting,? as Prince's solution to end fighting in Yemen. Prince had discussed his ideas for ending fighting in Yemen with Nader but provided no detailed operations plan. Prince and Nader did not discuss the Trump administration and DAB working together. Prince does not know why Nader sent Prince an image of Nader and Putin together, other than the fact that Nader always likes to show off his connections. b6 Prior to this interview, Prince reviewed records showing that he travelled to New York on January 3, 201?. Prince does not recall the travel. The trip was probably to see Bannon. Prince does not recall checking whether Bannon or Trump, Jr. would be available before he travelled to New York. Prince reviewed messages exchanged between him and Nader from December 31, 2016 to January 4, 2017 (Document 4). Based on the messages, Prince believes that he planned to meet Nader in New York on January 3. Nader was pushing for a meeting with anyone from the Trump team. Prince does not know why Nader wanted to meet with someone from the Trump team. Prince does not recall setting up any meetings for Nader with the Trump team. Nil-302:1 (Rm: {35-0340} CommunionofFD-??lof (U) Interview of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .On 04f04f2018 8 of 12 . Page Prince reviewed a message that he sent at approximately 1:36 on January 3, wherein he wrote that he would be at the Pierre Hotel restaurant in 10 minutes to meet Nader {Document 4). Prince does not recall meeting Nader. Prince and Nader probably planned to meet so that Nader could download the information from Nader?s meetings with M82 and MES. Prince reviewed a set of messages arranging a later meeting at the Pierre Hotel restaurant, the messages ended with Prince writing in the restaurant" at 7:32 p.m {Document Prince does not recall the second meeting with Nader either. It was probably a continuation of the same issues as the first meeting. Agents showed Prince images of the Pierre Hotel and its restaurant. After viewing the images, Prince recalled meeting Nader in the restaurant {Document 5). Prince does not recall what they discussed. They may have discussed Prince?s upcoming meeting with MBZ. Prince does not recall them discussing Russia, Dmitriev or contacts with the Trump administration. Prince does not recall going to Trump Tower on January 3. Prince may have been trying to meet Bannon. Prince had spoken with former 0.5. intelligence people about his plan and may have wanted to update Bannon. Prince often sat in the Starbucks in the Trump Tower lobby hoping that Bannon would have an opening to see him. Prince does not know why Nader sent Prince information on Kirill Dmitriev - a link to a Wikipedia page, "Quotes and "Kirill - on January 3 and January 4 (Document 4). Nader may have sent the information because it came up during their dinner. Prince would be surprised if Nader sent the information without any discussion. The first time that Prince heard of Dmitriev was at Prince?s meeting with MBZ in the Seychelles. At the end of that meeting, MBZ or one of his brothers said that there was a Russian guy that the UAE had done business with and that Prince should meet him. Prince does not recall opening the attachments sent by Nader on January 4, which contained the information on Dmitriev (Document 4). Prince does not recall calling I shortly b5 . after the attachments were opened. Prince would have calledl Ito see if Bannon had time to meet with Prince. Prince probably did not meet Bannon on January 3 because Prince would not have come back on January 4 if he had met with Bannon the day before. There were other times when Prince went to Trump Tower trying to meet with Bannon and never got in to see him. Prince does not recall whether he met with Bannon on January 4. Prince does not recall telling Bannon or anyone else with the Trump Transition team about Dmitriev before the meeting in the Seychelles. Fo-mza (Rm. [sax-m} CommunionofFD-??luf (U) Interview of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .On 04f0?lf2018 9 of 12 . Page Prince was like a kid at Christmas about his meeting with MBZ, he could only focus on the presents under the tree. Prince had previously conducted significant business with the UAE and he hoped to gain business for the future. Prince does not recall when he first learned that his meeting with MBZ would be in the Seychelles rather than the Middle h6 East. Prince does not recall communicating to Bannon or anyone else that Prince would be meeting with MBZ. When Prince landed in the Seychelles, one of men walked Prince through customs and drove him to the Four Seasons Hotel. MBZ owns the resort so Prince did not have to pay for his room. Prince met separately with Nader before meeting with MBZ. Nader warned Prince about the atmospherics of court and the rent?seeking behavior of its members. Prince and Nader took a golf cart to villa. Prince talked with MBZ about problems in peripheral countries where the UAE had troops, like Somalia, Libya and Yemen. MBZ was exasperated by the Obama administration. In Prince's mind, Prince was not there on behalf of the upcoming Trump administration. Prince did not play up his relationship with Bannon or anyone else close to Trump. MBZ asked though whether Prince thought that the Trump administration would support the ideas that they were discussing. In response, Prince cited Trump's campaign promises and what Prince had heard from Trump?s Strategic Policy Advisor, Bannon, on the issues. Prince spent about an hour and a half with M32. M82 offered Prince a ride back to Abu Dhabi on airplane. At the end of the meeting, one of MBZ's people said that there was a Russian guy at the resort, that the UAE had put money into his funds, and that he would be a useful guy for Prince to meet. After the MBZ meeting, Prince went back to his room and napped. Prince then went to dinner, he believes Nader ate dinner with him. After dinner, Prince and Nader walked over to the bar and met Dmitriev. Dmitriev's wife was with him but soon walked away. Dmitriev spent the first six or seven minutes discussing his hope that their countries could work better together. Prince responded that if Roosevelt could work with Stalin to defeat the Nazis then Trump and Putin could work together to fight terrorism. Dmitriev also talked about the two countries resuming normal trade relations, but Prince does not recall Dmitriev specifically mentioning sanctions. Dmitriev knew Prince had been a loud advocate for Trump but Prince does not recall Dmitriev speaking as if Prince was a contact to the Trump people. Dmitriev did not say when he had been asked to meet with Prince or who asked him to meet with Prince. Prince understood that Dmitriev was in the Seychelles to meet MBZ. Prince and Dmitriev spent most of their time discussing oil prices. Prince owns a Nil-302:1 (Rm: {35-0340} CommunionofFD-??luf (U) Interview of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .On 04f0?lf2018 Jung; 10 of 12 geoscience business that searches for oil. Prince explained to Dmitriev how the Saudis failed to put the 0.5. fracking companies out of business by increasing production to keep prices low because the companies continued to operate under 0.3. bankruptcy laws. Dmitriev insinuated to Prince that he wanted Prince to pass along the message of better relations to people in the U.S. Dmitriev emphasized wanting to get past the past. Prince does not recall any discussion of potential Russian interference in the 2016 Presidential election. Prince had a beer during their conversation. Prince went back to his room after the meeting with Dmitriev. Prince got a message from a Libyan friend that the Russian aircraft carrier Ruznetsov had been toured by Khalifa Haftar of Libya. Prince contacted Nader and asked to meet with Dmitriev again. Prince initially told investigators that the second meeting also occurred in the bar. After Agents showed Prince images of the Four Seasons Seychelles b6 {Document 6), Prince stated that his second meeting with Dmitriev was in b7: Nader?s villa. Prince pointed out to Dmitriev that Dmitriev had talked about wanting to work together but that Prince personally thought that the Ruznetsov incident would be offensive to the Trump administration. Dmitriev answered that he did not know about the incident and that the Russian armed forces sometimes got ahead of themselves. Prince told Nader that he would let Bannon know that Prince had talked with Dmitriev. Prince would pass along to Bannon that someone in the Russian power structure was interested in better relations. Prior to meeting DmitrievJr Prince read Dmitriev?s biography that Nader had previously sent him. Prince cannot recall how he knew to look in his cell phone for Dmitriev's information. Prince posits that Nader must have told him that Dmitriev is the person about which I previously sent you information. Even given the fact that Nader had sent the information earlier, Prince is not sure whether the meeting between him and Dmitriev was pre-arranged. Having read the biography and knowing that Dmitriev managed Russia's sovereign wealth fund, Prince knew before the meeting that Dmitriev had strong political connections in Russia. b6 On the plane back to Abu Dhabi, Prince spoke alone with MRZ for about an hour. They mostly talked about planes and Prince?s idea for using a modified crop duster as a counterinsurgency plane. M82 is a Fo-mza (Rm. [us?nun} CommunionofFD-??luf (U) Interview of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .On 04f0?lf2018 Jung; 11 of 12 gearhead. Prince does not recall discussing Dmitriev with MBZ. Prince landed in Abu Dhabi and went to China the next day. Prince spent three or four days in China before flying back to the U.S. on January 15. The next day, on January 16, Prince met with Bannon at the Breitbart house. Prince also told he b'TCi Bannon about his meetings with MBZ and Dmitriev. Prince said that MBZ was interested in his solution to the fighting in Yemen and other areas. Prince described Dmitriev as a Western educated, sovereign wealth fund manager. Prince told Bannon that Dmitriev wanted an improved and more cooperative relationship with the U.S. On the morning of January 16, before visiting Bannon, Prince captured a screenshot of Dmitriev?s Wikipedia page on his cell phone {Document 8). Prince believes that he captured the image so that he could remember Dmitriev?s name when he met with Bannon. Prince cannot recall whether he showed Bannon the screenshot. Likewise, Prince cannot recall whether he told Bannon that the meeting was in the Seychelles. Prince reviewed a .anuarv 17, 201?, message from Nader asking if Prince had time to meet with (Document 9) Prince replied yes. Prince does not know who] Iis. Nader then messaged "[w]hat about Kirill?" {Document 9) Prince does not think he responded to this message. Prince b6 does not recall communicating with Nader about Dmitriev after they left the Seychelles. Prince does not recall sending a message to Nader stating Prince had been contacted by the Senate Intel Committee "all thanks to the Russian guy you wanted me to meet." Nader would not take any action unless it was approved by MBZ. Prince does not know why he would have wrote "you" wanted me to meet when it was one of other people that suggested the meeting unless it was because Nader walked Prince into the meetings with MBZ and Dmitriev. Prior to the Washington Post article in April 2017, only Bannon, Nader, Dmitriev and the UAE officials knew that Prince had met with Dmitriev. Prince may have told but he does not believe that he told On the day of his testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), Prince believed that he was only going to speak b6 with Devin Nunes about illegal unmasking of Americans and the wrongful use h7c of SIGINT. Prince agreed to the release of his HPSCI testimony because, after speaking with Prince did not believe that he had a choice. h6 Nil-302:1 (Rm: {35-0340} (U) Interview of Erik Prince 04.04.2018 .On 04f0?lx?2018 12 of 12 . Page I36 137:: MBZ would have arranged the meeting for strategic reasons such as Chipping away at the relationship between Russia and Iran. (Rev. -l of 14- Dntcofentn? Jerome Robert Corsi, date of birth lsocial security b6 account was interviewed at the Special Counsel's b7: Office, 395 Street SW, Washington, DC in the presence of his attorney, resent for the interview were FBI Special Agent FBI IFBI Intelligence Analyst (IA) ISenior Assistant Special Counsel (SASC) Jeannie S. Rhee, SASC Andrew Goldstein, and Assistant Special Counsel (ASC) Aaron Zelinsky. Prior to the interview, Corsi signed a proffer agreement, originally signed on September 21, 2018. Corsi was advised that intentional false statements during this interview would be a violation of federal law. After being advised of the purpose of the interview and identities of the interviewing Agents, Corsi provided the following information: Corsi had remained silent on his media platforms, for approximately two months, and since he was first approached by representatives from the Special Counsel?s Office. He will eventually return to those activities because he depends on them for income. Corsi spent the evening prior to this interview trying to reconstruct events that were discussed in previous interviews. Corsi wanted to remember certain things but could not and he became frustrated as a result. Corsi had a hard time determining whether or not he was actually remembering things or if he was inventing them. Corsi forgot a lot of events given they happened over two years ago. 10f31f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 met.- I I 11.? 19/2018 m'l This decrement contains neither ne-r conclusions oftne FBI. [1 is the pnepeny of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agency. it and its contents are net to be distributed eutstde your agency. Interview of Jerome Corsi (10f3lf18} .On 10f31f2018 me 2 of 14 lCorsi said he would do his best in this interview and try to remember key events in this interview. Corsi did not start watching Assange until after Assange created a search engine for his information and therefore, he did not believe Wikileaks was a large topic of discussion for him in February 2016. b6 IWhen asked who else he may have told, Corsi said he may have also toldl I Corsi discussed the possibility of contacting Assange through their organization, WorldNetDaily (WND). have sent Corsi to meet with Assange he would have gone. not do so. Corsi thought he might have audio recordings they discussed the possibility of meeting with Assange. When asked if he had reservations in making attempts to contact Assange, Corsi said he had two. First of all, Corsi did not believe he would be breaking the law if he contacted Assange but he did not want to surface on the radar of any intelligence agencies as a result of doing so. Secondly, even if Assange had wanted to meet with him, Corsi did not believe Assange would have shared information with Corsi about what would be coming in future releases of information. On or about July 22, 2016, Wikileaks released a series of emails belonging to Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Corsi remembered the event and referred to it as ?the Schultz drop." A day after the Schultz drop, Assange publicly stated he had more information to come and Corsi wanted to know what it was. Corsi began reviewing the information from the Schultz drop immediately, which was approximately 40,000 emails released over a two-day I I 1373 (Rm. mans-m} qu (U) Interview of Jerome lCorsi (lOf3lle) .On 10f31f2018 Jung; 3 of 14 period. Corsi examined the senders and recipients of each email. Corsi also compiled a list of the emails which he posted online. What jumped out to Corsi was that all of the emails pertained to operatives in the Democratic National Committee Corsi looked for emails from John Podesta and did not find any. From that, Corsi deduced that Assange?s next release of information would likely pertain to Podesta. I b6 1373 EH: Corsi was asked if he also looked at what was released by DCLeaks and he confirmed that he had. Corsi downloaded the DCLeaks release and put them into a file. He remembered downloading a compressed [.zip] file and going b6 through each file one by one. Corsi remembered seeing files with the initials NGP on them. Corsi knew those to be the initials of Corsi said he believed there were two ways to hack a computer. First, having the username and password credentials for a legitimate user on a system. Second, having access to a server where the emails passed through. Corsi believed the information from the Schultz drop seemed they were obtained from a server where they had passed through. In addition to the lack of emails from Podesta, Corsi also noticed that the last email had been sent in late May 2016. Therefore, Corsi believed the emails were likely to have been stolen around that time. Corsi advised that he knew Seth Rich had been killed at 4:30 AM on July 10, 2016. The circumstances surrounding Rich?s death were suspicious to Corsi. Specifically, he wanted to know where Rich?s laptop went. Corsi then explained there had been speculation as to whether or not Rich had actually stolen the emails from the DNC, rather than them having been hacked. Corsi?s source, I b5 I Itold Corsi she is crazy, b7: but Corsi continues to rely on her for information because her reporting is good. Corsi provided an example of had tracked who was involved in setting up a private server for Clinton. (Rm: I (U) Interview of Jerome lCorsi .On lbs: 4 Of 14 Corsi to be obsessed with another b6 I When Corsi relayed information from his sources he usually told people in a way that portrayed, "this is the way it is.? Corsi does not usually cite his sources by name. b6 b6 Corsi and others were constantly talking about Assange after the Schultz drop. Corsi said it seemed as if the world had stopped after the Schultz drop and he did nothing but review the emails for several days to see what Assange had. b6 [Corsi said he must have also had prior discussions with Malloch about Assange. I Corsi said it would have made sense if they discussed how they could realh Assange. Malloch was a professor at the University of Oxford and Corsi thought Malloch might be able to reach Assange, possibly through a direct message on Twitter. I When asked whether he and Malloch ever discussed Nigel Farage, Corsi said be they had[ I Corsi rather remembered having discussions with Malloch about Brexit at the time and believed the discussions occurred later in time. When asked if they ever discussed getting in touch with Assange through someone Corsi said it would have made sense if they had but he didn?t remember doing so. Corsi then immediately said, "I'm sure I must have.? Later in the interview, Corsi said he did not remember having any b6 discussions with Malloch about reaching Assange through Farage. Corsi explained that he viewed Malloch asl I Fo-mza (Rm. [us?nun} Communion of of (U) Interview of Jerome lCorsi .On .1?ngc 5 Of 14 b6 Corsi first met Mallooh through an introduction from over the telephone. b6 b6 b6 b6 (Rm: I (U) Interview of Jerome lCorsi .On lOfBleOlB Jung; E- of 14 136 1373 additional instructions for Malloch. Corsi generally had much more detailed discussions with Malloch and provided two examples; when he tried to get Malloch a job on the Trump campaign and when he introduced Malloch tail?l lSorsi did not actually think b6 Corsi said he only remembered having such a discussion withl I Corsi believed that discussion occurred sometime before he left for Italy, possibly on July 25, 2016. Corsi has approximately also thought Rich stole the emails from the DNC and believed the British and John Brennan were behind the Fusion GPS believed the upcoming Wikileaks information would pertain to Podesta. Corsi he believed Assange was smart and strategic, and that if Assange didn?t drop all of the emails at once then there would be a second drop sometime in October. 1216 b715, 1:73 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview of Jerome Corsi .On 7' of 14 Communion 0F 0F .F?ngc 1:16 1373 157$: 136 1571!. b6 b6 b6 136 1571!. 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(U) Interview of Jerome lCorsi .On onlirmalion of of Ja?gc 1 of 4 Corsi recalled that on October T, 2016, Access Hollywood released a recording of Trump having a conversation with Billy Bush during which Trump spoke about grabbing women by the genitals. On or about that same day, Wikileaks released the information about Podesta.l b5 136 1571!. b6 b?C b6 Corsi remembered sitting at his computer, looking for materials and seeing Podesta at the top of the document. The purpose of the article was to plant sources in the paragraphs of the article, which was 8 pages long, so (Rm: Communion of of (U) Interview of Jerome lCorsi .On lOfBleOlB that they could be sourced as being derived from open source materials. Corsi felt like he had solid research. Corsi then said he had no distinct memory of looking at public sources, doing any research at that time, I I Corsi recalled the articles related to Viktor Vekselberg as being difficult to read. Corsi could not recall where he was when he read those papers. .1?ngc 12 Of 14 136 13711 1371?. 136 1371?. 1:16 hi?: b6 137C b6 136 1:71 b7: I I ma FD-fmza (Rm. (U) Interview of Jerome Corsi .On Jung; 13 of 14 Communion HR: Corsi remembered when] I I b6 (Rm: I 1573 I (U) Interview of Jerome Corsi .On .F?ngc 14 of 156 1:73 (Rev. b7E -1 of 12- timed UNCLASSI frus- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 10f16f2018 On Tuesday, September 11, 2018, Richard Gates was interviewed at the law offices of Sidely Austin, 1501 Street N.W., Washington, DC 2005. Gates was being interviewed pursuant to an ongoing cooperation agreement entered into with the Office of the Special Counsel. Present for the interview were DOJ Senior Financial Investigatorl IFBI Specb6 Per FBI Agentl lAssistant United States Attorneysl bTC1per FBI landl Ifrom the Southern District of New York; and Assistant United States Attorneyl IDOJ National Security Division. Hlso present was Gates' attorney, Thomas Green. After being advised the identity of the interviewing parties and the purpose of the interview, Gates furnished the following information: Note: Prior to the interview commencing, Gates that he had to be truthful with the interviewing parties and at anytime he he wished to consult with his attorney (Thomas Green) he could do so. Gates b7c verbally acknowledged that he understood. Skadden Report Background: Gates' initial involvement with Skadden Arps and the subsequent Skadden Report was when Paul Manafort {Manafort} contacted Gates about using one of their (Davis Manafort Partners) Ukrainian funded bank accounts in Cyprus to pay for an independent review of the imprisonment of former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. To the best of Gates? recollection, Manafort was ut in contact with Greg Craig of Skadden Arps after speaking Gates was unsure why referred :3 . Craig to Manafort. Skadden Report Media Strategy: Gates recalled Craig initially agreed to be involved in the overall media strategy, but FTI Consultants was subsequently hired to handle it. FTI was referred to Manafort via Craig. Craig went back and forth on his role with the overall media strategy, but eventually agreed to talk with the New York Times. It was he b7C UNCLASS fee-s? lnt'esiigttiion on 09,? 1 1,2018 at Washington District Of Columbia United States i In Person} b3 i?ilei.E Date dra?ed 09f17f2018 b6 m' h?E This deeuntent eentnins neither nor conclusions eflne FBI. [1 is the ptepeny ef the FBI and is loaned to yeur agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutside your agency. (Rev. (Ufft??j Richard Gates September 11, .On 09f11f2018 ~pM? 2 of 12 _Gates' recollection that Craig mentioned having a good relationship with thile at a meeting in DC. Craig believed his relationship with b6 would give them a shot at a fair interview. When FTI ultimately drafted their initial media it had Craig playing a more active role. Craig pushed back, but compromised to reach out to a few media and political contacts. Gates recalled that a few United States Legislators were contacted prior to the release of the Skadden Report; however, he could not recall who they were. Initially Craig was willing and felt comfortable reaching out to these elected officials, but Gates was unsure if he ever ended up doing so. However, Gates said Manafort told him Craig contacted people identified on the list of contacts. Alex Van Der Zwaan was a Skadden Associate based in London and was brought on board because Skadden needed a Russian speaker. Van Der Zwaan ultimately became Craig?s right?hand man in Ukraine and reported directly to Craig. Gates was unsure why Skadden didn't file under FARA, but recalled they hired FTI because Craig and Skadden didn't want to be involved in a full blown media strategy. Gates recalled Manafort telling him Skadden was going to look into whether they needed to file under FARA. Gates recalled having approximately two one-on-one meetings with Craig. He also attended meetings with Craig, Manafort and others in NYC once or twice. Manafort had more directfregular interaction with Craig; however, Gates would regularly receive downloads from Manafort. Emails/Documents Shown to Gates: Tab 11 Gates was shown an email chain with Bates stamps SAU 020823 020825 which was a conversation between Gates and van Der Zwaan on May 1, 2012 with the subject "Re: Call". Gates was unsure the origin of the PR information; however, he believed this was around the time FTI was hired. Tab 21 - Gates was shown an email chain and attachments with Bates stamps SAU 021116 - 021130 which was a conversation between Gates and Van Der Zwaan on July 17, 2012 with the subject "Project Veritas Communications h? Gates? initial contact at however, he was replaced by Jonathan Hawker because he difficult to deal with. Gates was questioned about the Skadden Report Strategy Section starting on page 5 of the attachment. Although the Report was not yet finalized, Gates b7E {0-3323 (Rm: {35-0340} (Uf+t??1 Richard Gates September 11, .On 09f11f2018 ~pM? 3 of 12 said Craig provided an outline of the project to Manafort. It was around this time Manafort was pressuring Hawker to finalize the Media Plan. Gates said it was "aspirational" the Skadden Report would conclude the trial of Tymoshenko was valid. In fact, the Skadden Report did not conclude the trial was valid. The journalists identified on pages 9-10 came from Hawker and FTI. It wasn?t until later on that Craig advised he had a better contact at the NY b6 Times Tab 22 - Gates was shown an email chain with Bates stamps SAU 021132 - 021133 which was a conversation between Gates and Van Der Zwaan on July 18, 2012 with the subject "Project Ueritas Communications Strategy". Gates said the reference from Van Der Zwaan that Greg him to speak with Gates urgently involved two separate conversations Van Der Zwaan had with each. As it related to his conversation with Craig, Van Der Zwaan told Gates that he sat down with Craig to discuss the plan and he (Craig) had concerns with the overall intensity of the plan. As it related to his conversation Van Der Zwaan told Gates b5 additional people added. Tab 24 - Gates was shown an email chain with Bates stamp SRU 030158 which was a conversation between Hawker and Van Der Zwaan on July b6 29, 2012 with the subject ?Re: Media Plan?. Van Der Zwaan requested all discussions about the media plan be sent via private email. Van Der Zwaan indicated that after speaking with Craig about this arrangement he felt more comfortable with it. Gates was also shown an attachment to Tab 24, a Memorandum PJM, b5 dated July 27, 2012 with the subject Report - Media Plan {Bates stamps SRU 030154 - 03015?). Item number 6 in the Report Release section referenced briefing a small number of international journalists in advance of the publication of the Skadden Report. Gates said at this stage they were still having discussions with Craig on what or what not he would be willing to do. Those discussions were primarily between Manafort and Craig and Gates would subsequently be briefed down by Manafort. As previously mentioned, on occasion Gates communicated with Van Der Zwaan and Hawker via private email. They also communicated via telephone and in- person. Gates said they would use private emails to send draft sections of the Skadden Report to the Ministry of Justice (MOJ) and to also highlight (Rev. (Ufft?6+ Richard Gates September 11, .On 09f11f2018 ~pM? 4 of 12 changes to the Media Plan and Report. It was Gates' understanding that Van Der Zwaan was sharing all changes and updates with Craig. The private emails were used more as an intermediary so the conversations weren't sent through a Skadden server. Skadden wanted to maintain the perception of independence. Gates never had a conversation with Craig about the use of private emails. Tab 25 Gates was shown an email from Gates to Van Der Zwaan with Bates stamp 3A0 021141 on July 30, 2012 with the subject "Call". Gates assumed this was in reference to the revised Media Plan. When asked if Craig would have approved Van Der Zwaan furnishing an advancefdraft copy of the Skadden Report, Gates said absolutely. Tab 34 - Gates was shown an email from Gates to Van Der Zwaan with an attachment with Bates stamps SAU 147989 - 14T994 on September 19, 2012 with the subject "Here?. Gates said the attachment was a memo written by Manafort for Craig following up on suggested changes to the Skadden Report. Gates was questioned about the Harvard Club (NYC) meeting between Manafort, Gates, Hawker and Craig. It was his recollection the purpose of the meeting was to push for the finalization of the Report and to discuss what Craig would be willing to do as part of the GR (Government Relations) and PR {Public Relations) rollout. Prior to the meeting, Manafort and Craig met alone to discuss Craig?s assistance in the rollout. Manafort told Gates and Hawker he would be able to get Craig to agree to do a few things. The actual meeting at the Harvard Club lasted approximately two hours, of which 45 minutes was spent discussing the Media Plan. In the end, although they were unable to get as much assistance from Craig on the Media Plan rollout, Craig agreed to provide an advance copy of the report and brief it to (NY Times). Gates said it was critical to have what was perceived to be a neutral article written by a prominent media outlet like the NY Times. came up during both at the ire?meeting and the actual meeting. Gates said the reason for and the NY Times was for perception right out the box. Gates recalled Craig saying if he used could help guide the story and set the stage. While Craig never expected the article to be 100* positive, he wanted the Report to be taken seriously and to not be considered a whitewash. Tab 95 Gates was shown an email and attachments which was a conversation between Hawker, Manafort, Gates, Konstantin Kilimnik, Craig and Van Der b6 b7C b6 (Rm: {35-03-10} Richard Gates September 11, .On 09f11f2018 ~pM? 5 of 12 Zwaan with Bates stamps FTI 005805 - 005834 on September 23, 2012 with the subject ?Documents". The documents referenced included an agenda for the Harvard Club meeting to discuss the proposed media plan. Gates confirmed a copy of the agenda was distributed to everyone in attendance at the meeting. Gates recalled they went through every item on the agenda to include the role of Craig. It was Gates' understanding Craig felt more comfortable talking with politicos on the background of the Skadden Report more than he did with the media (PR). Action number 7 on the Master Control Grid called for the "Engagement with Bloomberg". Gates believed Craig volunteered to contact Bloomberg and it was on his list of items to do; however, he doesn't think he did. Action Number 6 on the Master Control Grid called for Craig to meet with Gates did not believe these meetings ever took place. b5 b7C The SA Report Media Plan Overview proposed leaking a copy of the Skadden Report to the Bloomberg Bureau in Washington, DC. As previously stated, Gates believed Craig volunteered to contact Bloomberg and while it was on his list of items to do, he doesn't think he did. That being said, Gates said if anyone would have leaked the Skadden Report to Bloomberg it would have been Craig. Action Number 21 Master Control Grid called for Craig to brief the Ukrainian Commissioner for Human Rights. Gates did not recall Craig agreeing to do this. Action Number 22 Master Control Grid called for Craig to b6 Gates recalled Craig agreed to do this prior to the Harvard b7: Club meeting. As previously stated, Gates did not believe these meetings took place. Action Number 24 Master Control Grid called for Craig to engage with US Media. Besides the NY Gates did not recall any other US b5 Media contacted by Craig. Action Numbers 25?30 Master Control Grid called for Craig travel to Brussels and Moscow for roundtable discussions. Gates believed Craig agreed to do this prior to the Harvard Club meeting; however, he said it never took place. Action Number 21 Master Control Grid called for Craig to engage with US Political Stakeholders and the UK Ambassador to the US. Gates could not recall if Craig ever did this. (Rev. (Uffii?? Richard Gates September 11, .On 09f11f2018 ~pM? 6 of 12 One of the documents attached by Hawker was the Project Veritas - Master Questions and Answer Document. Gates said this document was prepared by Hawker for the MOJ and would have been discussed at the meeting. Gates could not recall if Craig raised any concerns it. Tab 40 Gates was shown an email which was a conversation between Hawker, Gates and Van Der Zwaan with Bates stamps SAU 02606? dated September 24, 2012 with the subject "Problem". Gates did not recall what the problem was. Tab 41 Gates was shown an email and attachments which was a conversation between Hawker, Craig, Manafort and Gates with Bates stamps SAU 026698 and SAU 026701 - 026710 dated September 24, 2012 with the subject "Draft Messaging". Gates said this email and documents were shared post (after) the Harvard Club meeting in an effort to shore up the Media Plan. Gates was shown an email chain with Bates stamps FTI 004504 - 004505 dated September 24?25, 2012 which was a conversation between Hawker, Craig, Manafort and Gates with the subject "Draft Messaging". Gates believed Craig had a follow-up call with Hawker and he (Hawker) then sent out a revised Media Plan. Tab 96 Gates was shown an email chain with Bates stamp FTI 002246 dated September 25, 2012 which was a conversation between Gates and Hawker. Gates recalled one of the issues Hawker needed to discuss with Craig was the validity of the Tymoshenko Trial. The MOJ wanted the Skadden Report to say the trial was valid. Tab 42 Gates was shown an email chain with Bates stamp PDG 00045001 which was sent by Gates to Mercury and Podesta on September 26, 2012 with the subject "Meeting Agenda?. The body of the email referenced a meeting agenda for the DC Consultants {Mercury and Podesta}. Gates said Mercury and Podesta had better connections for outreach to US Politicians and that Mercury would provide their recommendations for media outreach. Tab 98 - Gates was shown an email chain and attachments between Gates and Hawker with Bates stamps SAU FTI 001385 001395 dated September 24, 2012 with the subject "Document". The documents attached were the Project Veritas Media Plan as modified after review by Mercury and Podesta. Bloomberg, was identified as a US 'ournalist to receive a background brief by FTI and Skadden. Gates was furnished by that it might have also come from Craig. Gates said there was no reference to the NY Times because it was already in the works and they didn't want anyone to know about the NY Times, to include Mercury and Podesta. Gates recalled having discussions about this matter with Manafort and Hawker. b6 (Rm: {35-03-10} (Uff?t?B-S-i- Richard Gates September 11, 2018 .On 09f11f2018 Jung; 7 of 12 Gates was questioned about the names of US contacts identified to be briefed (Bates stamp FTI 001392}. Gates believed Harry Reid and Richard Durbin were included because Craig had a past relationship with them. Gates recalled Craig saying he would reach out to them. The other contacts came from Mercury and/or Podesta and Gates was unsure if they were ever briefed. Tab 45 Gates was shown an email and attachment which was a conversation between Hawker, Manafort, Gates and Kilimnik with Bates stamps FTI 003139 - 003743 dated October 2, 2012 with the subject ?Master Grid". Gates stated the attachment was the European media rollout. According to Gates, the messaging would say the Skadden Report was independent and determined the Ukrainian Government did some things right and some things wrong. However, the Skadden Report would not state the Government was totally in the right. The Domestic Strategy as referenced on Bates stamp 0032142 was a reference to the Ukrainian Domestic Strategy. Tab 9? Tab 45 Gates was shown an email and attachment from Gates to Hawker with Bates stamps FTI 00T384 dated October 2, 2012 with the subject "Matrix - Actions". Gates identified the attached document as the DC Consultant (Mercury and Podesta} Media Plan. Gates recalled at some point Mercury andfor Podesta expressed some hesitancy to use the NY Times because they did not think it would be a positive article. Tab 48 - Gates was shown an email chain which was a conversation between Manafort, Gates, Hawker and Kilimnik with Bates stamp FTI 003135 dated October 5, 2012 with the subject "update". In the email Manafort requested a copy of the most recent Media Plan and referenced that GC (Craig) was coming back from the Middle East that day. Gates recalled Craig and be shared a client in the Middle East and were there together. When questioned about the delay in releasing the Skadden Report, Gates recalled Craig asked them to hold-off so he could attempt to interview Tymoshenko again. Gates also recalled the MOJ had some concerns with the Skadden Report and there was talk about them not releasing it. Podesta also had concerns with how the Skadden Report would be perceived in the US. It was also around this time Mercury was looking into reaching out to the mediaGates was shown an email chain and attachments between Gates and Hawker with Bates stamps FTI 025294 025807 on November 26, 2012 with the subject "Report?. The Master Control Grid had a noted task Fo-mza (Rev. Richard Gates September 11, .On 09f11f2018 ~pM? 8 of 12 at 1700 for GC to provide background briefing at the request of the US Journalist on Tuesday at 1700. Gates said this was a reference to Craig reaching out Times). b5 b7c The Master Control Grid also had a noted task at 2200 for Bloomberg to release story for print on Tuesday morning. To the best of his recollection this was going to be handled b5 Gates said it was around this time, or maybe even in October, Manafort had him Craig and the NY Times. pushed back and ?.ked why not the Washington Post. h6 Gates recalled the closer they got to the release of the Skadden Eeport it became clear Craig was going to be less involved in the overall Media Elan rollout. Gates was unsure who put the reference to John Kerry on Bates stamp 025?98 although they were aware Craig was close with him. Gates could not identify anyone referenced from the USA Section {Bates stamps 025804 02580?) that Craig agreed to reach out to. Gates said it was Hawker's idea for a possible Vanity Fair article on Craig as referenced at 1900 on Bates stamp 025808. It was never pursued as far as Gates was aware. Tab 100 Gates was shown an email chain and attachment which was a conversation between Gates, Kilimnik, Manafort and Hawker with Bates stamps FTI 026136 on December 5, 2012 with the subject ?Updated Docs". The attached Master Control Grid called for courtesy calls on December 12th. One of the individuals identified to call was Obama. Gates did not recall any discussions about reaching out to President Obama and opined it was most likely a reference to the Obama Administration. Gates did not recall if Craig or anyone reached out to (Harry) Reid. It was also his understanding Mercury was going to reach out (John) Boehner. The attached Master Control Grid called for the Report to be given to of the NY Times who would then have an exclusive on the be material for 24 hours. Gates recalled being aware of the date of this b7: email that Craig had already reached out copy of this Master Control Grid would have been sent/shared with Craig, Gates, Manafort and Kilimnik. Kilimnik would have then had it translated to share with the Ukrainian Governement. h7E (Rm: {35-03-10} Richard Gates September 11, .On 09f11f2018 ~pM? 9 of 12 Gates opined that individuals might have been added to the distribution list to help bolster the Media Plan to the MOJ. It was the idea that either the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or Graig would reach out to the key stakeholders. However, Gates was unaware if anyone was actually contacted. b6 and an UNSUB were also hired by Manafort to conduct outreach during the rollout. TAB 101 - Gates was shown an email from Hawker to Gates with Bates stamps FTI 026230 December 6, 2012 with the subject "Docs". Hawker informed Gates everything has gone to Alex?s {Van Der Zwaan) gmail, but that he can?t get a hold of Greg (Craig). Gates was unsure why Hawker was unable to get a hold of Craig. Gates said he can?t say for sure that Graig saw the attached Master Control Grid; however, he recalled being told by Van Der Zwaan around the time of this email that Craig received the assignments. Gates never heard Craig didn't want to talk with the NY Times. Tab 55 Gates was shown an email chain and attachment which was a conversation between Gates, Hawker, Kilimnik and Van Der b5 Zwaan with Bates stamps SHU 030582 - 030592 on December 10, 2012 with the b7: subject "Master Control Grid consult SA Report.xlsx". Gates did not know if Craig saw the attached Master Control Grid, but said he sent it to Van Der Zwaan and opined he forwarded it to Craig. Hawker was tasked to organize Craig?s schedule to start (implement) the Media Plan rollout. Tab 56 Gates was shown an email chain which was a conversation between Gates, Van Der Zwaan andl with Bates stamps SAU 038013 on December 11, 2012 with the subject "Warsaw". It was Gates? understanding Craig was going to travel to Europe to brief a select group h6 of European leaders, but had an issue with his Van b7C Der Zwaan to meet with members of the media, but Graig would not approve it. Gates said it was his speculation, and speculation only, Graig did not want anyone from Skadden besides himself doing any media outreach. Gates did not know what happened regarding the off the record briefing request by ANSA. It was Gates? understanding that Craig took a middle of the road approach when speaking with the NY Per a debrief by Manafort, he hG {Manafort} pushed Craig to be on record when speaking with the NY Times. b7E Fo-mza (Rev. (Uffti?? Richard Gates September 11, .On 09f11f2018 .Wmc 10 of 12 Craig's willingness to engage the media showed a level of credibility for the Report and for the overall public perception of the findings. Manafort knew it was critical for Craig do it. Gates recalled there was a lot of give and take leading up to what Craig finally agreed to do. According to Gates, Craig was not only trying to please the client, but he also didn't want to damage his reputation. Gates said Craig approached Manafort during the Summer (2012} to discuss additional work opportunities in the Ukraine. Those discussions continued into early 2013 and centered more on the business side and not GR. Van Der Zwaan was going to be Bkadden's point person. Gates recalled Manafort telling him he helped arrange meetings between Craig and few Ukrainian Oligarchs. Tab 102 Gates was shown an email from Hawker to Gates with Bates stamp FTI 026366 on December 11, 2012 with the subject "In reception". Gates did not recall this email or what it was about. Tab 103 Gates was shown an email chain and attachment between Gates, Hawker and Van Der Zwaan with Bates stamps FTI 025218 - 025223 on December 11, 2012 with the subject "Contact List". To the best of his knowledge, no one from this list was contacted. Tab 57 - Gates was shown an email from Gates to Van Der Zwaan with Bates stamps SBU 247167 on December 11, 2012 with the subject "Report". After reviewing this email and the last tab reviewed (Tab 103), Gates recalled instructing Van Der Zwaan to send a copy of the Skadden Report to those contacts identified. Gates opined that Mercury and Bodesta would have done the advanced outreach. Tab 58 Gates was shown an email chain and attachment which was a conversation between Gates, Kilimnik, Van Der Hawker with Bates stamps BBU 007652 - 019858 on December 12, 2012 with the subject "Report Information. Gates recalled being told by Van Der Zwaan that I didn?t want Van Der Zwaan meeting with any reporters. Gates also recalled there was concern about Manafort's and input to the Skadden Report. Tab 104 Gates was shown an email chain and attachment which was a conversation between Gates, Kilimnik, Hawker with Bates stamps FTI 027120 - 027124 on December 13, 2012 with the subject b5 "Report Coverage". Gates recalled Manafort was a little upset with the NY b7: Times article because it started off by saying Skadden concluded (Rm: {35-0340} (Uff-h-E?? Richard Gates September 11, 2018 .On 09f11f2018 Jung; ll of 12 Tymoshenko?s legal rights were violated and that she was wrongly imprisoned. The compromise was the article stated the prosecution wasn?t politically motivated. While Manafort wasn?t happy with Craig?s quote about leaving it to others the question whether the prosecution was politically motivated, the news article{s) would have been a lot worse if not for Craig speaking to b5 Times). According to Gates, this was the strategy and it was worth the b?c risk. Gates could not recall if Craig was upset about the article published in the Telegraph. Gates was shown an email chain which was a conversation between Gates, Manafort Bates stamps ES 00012 - 00015 on September 19, h? 2012 with the subject "an urgent request ON Gates recalled this involved a pending US Senate Resolution re: Tymoshenko. Initially Gates could not recall having any discussions with Craig about reaching out to Durbin; however, it's possible during one of his one on one meetings with Craig he brought up the topic. Gates recalled Graig might have told him he would look into it and that he knew the people in the State Department. Although his take was Craig was reluctant to help at all, Gates still believed Craig was going to make the call. Tab 35 Gates was shown an email chain between Gates andl I with Bates stamp PDG 00045091 on December 19, 2012 with the subject he Gates acknowledged reaching out briefing him on the bending resolution and asking for his assistance. Gates recalled expressed a willingness to assist, but was unsure if he contacted anyone. However, Gates believed attempted to contact (John) Kerry. HERA: As previously stated, Gates recalled Skadden was looking into whether or not they needed to file under FARA and that they might have spoken with b6 (Note: It was agreed to meet with Gates at a later date to further discuss FARA.) Miscellaneous: b7E (Rev. (UfftES? Richard Gates September 11, 2018 .On 09f11f2018 Ja?gc 12 of 12 As mentioned in previous interviews, Gates used several email applications to include Viber. Gates would often use Viber to talk with van Der Zwaan. He never used Viber or any application to communicate with Craig. Gates identified the following two telephone numbers he had saved in his cell phone for Craig and 136 b7C nimgmm snug '1 Of 6' Date ofentn- 12f17f2018 FEDERAL GRAND JURY INFORMATION This document contains information pertaining to a federal grand jury proceeding. The information may not be disseminated within or outside the FBI, except as provided for under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure wherein disclosure may be made to: an attorney for the government for use in performing that attorney's official duties; or any government personnel that an attorney for the government considers necessary to assist in performing that attorney's official duties. I I date of birth I social security numberI I telephone numberI I email address I Iwas interviewed at the Special Counsel's Office, 395 E. Street SW, Washington, D.C. 20546. Present for the interview were b6 FBI Special AgentI IAssistant Special Counsel Aaron Zelinsky, and FBI Intelligence AnalystI Iwas accompanied by his attorney,l IEsg. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: Prior to the interview, ABC ZelinskyI Executed a b6 proffer agreement. A signed copy of the agreement will be maintained in a h?C physical IA. I Iadvised he attended I h? b7C forI Iin 2014.! I Idescribed b6 interacts via text message, and sees be in person approximately once every two months. 03f15f2018 EH Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 - - . . 08f16f2018 Hb# Dmemdkd m' This doeument contains neither reeonmtendntions nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pnopetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK EQWI (Rev. b6 137.3 I ContinuationoFFD-B?lof Interview of .011 08f15f2018 .1?21gc 2 of 6 I IPolitical Activity b6 Prior to the 20l6 Presidential election,l lwas the chairman of b7: the] said lhas given money to thel lin the past. has often solicited for money and donations. In 2016, Iwas introduced and began working I lwho are extremely well connected to the political elite. Hfter being courted by! [wanted to start aI land b6 lwas intended to aggregate capital and support Republican ch causes. Though the initially supported a broad range of candidates, said the quickly turned to Donald Trump (Trump). b6 b6 b6 (Rm: b6 b7E Continuation at" man; or I ?terVi .On 08f15f2018 .Wmc (Rev. h? b7C Interview of .On 08f15f2018 2016, [Agent Note: I I I [Agent Notezl I b6 A text message in which b6 b7: b6 b7C b6 (Rm: b6 b7E CmumMMmu?FDanm?(U} Interview 0f 03/1552018 .On 08f15f2018 .? (Rev. 136 b7C Interview of .011 08f15f2018 .1?21gc 6 of 6 b6 137:: 15715:. Conlinuztlion man; 1:6 137': b?A b6 1371!. b6 b7: b7]! b6 136 1:73. 1:16 1:170 1319.. Admin Note: Documents shown to: during the interview are 136 included in a physical 1A. 1,373 (Rev. -1 of 2- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry 09f2lf2017 FEDERAL GRAND JURY MATERIAL - DISSEMINATE PURSUANT TO RULE Do not disseminate except as authorized by federal rule of criminal procedure _On August 1, 2017,] date of birth] I, social security number b6 Ihome addressl lcellular telephone number After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the the following information: b6 b7A b6 b6 UNCLASS ?rs-5- on 08/1 [Hf-2017 at United States {In Person} b6 File Date dra?cd by 08f09f2DlT This docmnent contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the ptopetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 FD-znza (Rev. [15-03-1n} 1373 I373 . Page Communionc-FFD-B?lgf Interview Of .011 08f01f201713373 I370 b6 b6 133 per DOJKOIP 1:16 137': nimgmm:ssun -1 of 11- Dnteofentry lUf3Uf2018 FEDERAL GRAND JURY INFORMATION This document contains information pertaining to a federal grand jury proceeding. The information may not be disseminated within or outside the FBI, except as provided for under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure wherein disclosure may be made to: an attorney for the government for use in performing that attorney's official duties; or any government personnel that an attorney for the government considers necessary to assist in performing that attorney's official duties. Idate of birthl b6 was interviewed at the law offices of[ b7: [in the presence of his attorney,[ Participating in the interview were Special Agent I and Senior Assistant Special Counsel (SASC) Andrew Goldstein. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the purpose of the the following information: b6 b6 b6 10f09f2018 en New York, New Yorkr United States {In Person) b6 ?mg I Dmemmkd 10f10f2018 ch b?E by This deeumeut contains neither conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pneperty of the FBI and is leaned te- yeur ugeney'. it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng 13 I b6 (Rm: (U) Interview ofl ConlimmlionMED-302M ?0'09?20183 .011 10f09f2018 .F?ngc 2 Of 11 b6 1:16 1:173. b6 1:16 1:173. 13W: 1:16 1:711 b7: 1:16 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b7c Cominumionc-FFD-??luf (10"09'2018) .On 3:1373 EN: b6 b7C b6 b6 1:16 13TH. h?C b6 (Rm: hi?: Conlimmlion c-F (10 0 20 1 B) .On 10f09f2018 .F?ngc h?C h6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b7c (U) Interview of .On 10f09f2018 .F?ngc h7A I 1:16 we b?E Nil-302:1 (Rm: 05-0340} (U) Interview ofl (10.09.2018) .On 10f09/2018 h?A b7C 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview of (10.09.2018) .On 10f09/2018 Nil-302:1 (Rm: 05-0340} (U) Interview of (10.09.2018) . On 10f09/2018 FBIGQCV 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} (10.09.2018) .On 10f09/2018 b?C I he b7C b?E (Rm: Cominumionc-FFD-??luf (10"09'2018) .On 3:ch 10 Of 11 b6 136 1373!. b'?C b6 136 15715:. 1:16 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b7c an Interview ofl: Cominumionc-FFD-??luf (10"09'2018) .On 3:ch 11 Of 11 b6 b7C nimgmm:oouu '1 Of 5' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 08f13f2018 I36 I I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the the following information: Background: 136 Hiintestigutionon 08f06f2018 at HIM-tad States {In Person) b7: Date drafted Film? by This decrement contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnopetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 (Rev. (Uf?Fe?e+ Interview of 31 201E August . On ng 20f5 (Rm: be If?: (UNFo-uo-r Interview of: August CommunionMED-3mm? 3! 2018 .On .F?ngc Walid Phares trip to Egypt: WALID PHARES was well known in Egypt from his many media appearances. In 2013, PHARES wrote articles against the Muslim Brotherhood. These articles made PHARES popular with the current government of Egypt. b6 b7: b6 b6 b7C Fo-mza (Rev. Interview of: August CommunionMED-3mm? 3! 2018 oamemms 4 of 5 . Page I I PHARES also had a big title that made him look prominent in the campaign. I [had no information on other members of the TRUMP Campaign. I I El?Sisi and Trump meeting at UNGA: not aware of how the meeting between EL-SISI and TRUMP came together and was actually surprised that it happened. The tone in Egypt was divided in regards to the 2016 U.S. Presidential election. I I The TRUMP campaign released a very positive statement about b6 ED?nrik-innsun b7: ?1 m. .- - Interview 2018 .On 08f06f2018 .Hmc 5 Of 5 the future of U.S./Egypt relations under a TRUMP presidency. The readout mentioned the strategic relationship and partnerships between the two countries. b6 Egypt's stance on U.S. elections: Since the 1980 election, Egypt has been strictly neutral. Egyptian President ANWAR SADAT had been sure of the re?election of President JIMMY even referring to him as "my friend When President RONALD RERGRN was elected this stance harmed relations. SADRT was assassinated a short time later. h6 b6 b6 1 Of 8 Dnteofentry UZflE?erUlB h? by FBI Special Agentl land FDIC . . . . . be; per FDICXOIG DIG Agent After being advised of the identities of thEb?jpmj?nc??G interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, provided the 55 following information: Paul Manafort b6 b'?United States {In Person, Other (text b6 11f21f2017 an message}: ?mg Dmemmkd 11f2?f201? by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. it is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its to be distributed outside your agency. (Rm: b6 Communion 0F (if (U) Interview .On 11f21f2017" 2 of 8 . Page b6 b6 b7: b6 b6 Jl 153 per DOJIOIP b3 per DOJKOIP b5 b3 per DOJIOIP b6 b7C b6 136 1:370 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Communion 0F (if (U) Interview . On lleleOlT img h?C (Rm: Communion 0F (if (U) Interview . On lleleOlT img 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Communionarm-302 er (U) I IInterview . On lleleOlT" . Page 1:16 Sofa b6 b6 b7!) b6 b6 b6 1:16 b7C 136 hi?: b3 per DOJIOIP b6 b6 b7E (Rm: Interview .On 11f21f2017 6 of 8 ng b3 per DOJIOIP b6 h7C b3 per DOJIOIP b6 b7C that after she heard Manafort and Gates were being investigated, I b6 I Itook the interviewing agents to her desk area andI I be b7C The notes from conversations provided b6 The emails provided by included: b6 b7C Fo-mza (Rm. (15-11240; Communion of of (U) Interview . On lleleOlT ng of 8 Following this interview, sent a text message to sa Iwhioh read as follows: The documents shown to to this FD 302. and provided by have been attached b6 (Rm: Communion 0F (if (U) Interview .011 1,Page 7- nimgmm:ssun 1 Of Dnteofentry I I previously identified, was interviewed by FBI Special Agent I land Special Counsel Prosecutor Greg Andres. Present After being during the interview was! advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of b6 the the following information: h?C provided with a Proffer Agreement and advised that the interview was voluntary. also advised that if she chose to answer questions, she needed to be truthful in her answers. Background b6 b6 b6 1:16 b6 12f05f2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 Ir?ilett.E Date dra?ed 12f06f2017? 13'3?: lntest'tgution on by This doeument contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the ptopeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 h7C b7E (Rm: I Proffer .On 12f05f2017 Paul Manafort b6 b6 FD-fmza (Rm. {15-11240} (U) Proffer .On 12f05f2017 3 of 7' . Page 1:6 137': b6 I lGeogle'd Manafert and learned he had worked for Reagan and b6 Bush. I ltheught Manafert was "a big deal (Rm: Communion 0F (if (U l' I Proffer . On 12f05f201T img 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Communion 0F (if (U) Proffer . On 12f05f201T per DOJIOIP b6 ETC b3 per DOJIOIP b6 b7C b3 per DOJIOIP Documents (Rm: 136 Communion 0F (if (U) Proffer .On 12f05f2017" Jung; 60fb7C 136 FD-fmza (Rm. km: 1373 I I Communion 0F (if (U) Proffer .On USKE .1?ngc l? Of 7 Hiati S-R-IU) -l of 3- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dnteofentry 06f22f2018 lwas interviewed via b3 per DOJIOIP b6 telephone. Present for the interview via telephone werel Special Agent and Assistant Special Counsel (ASCH After being advised of the identity of the interviewing personnel and the nature of the the following information: b5 um b3 per DOJIOIP please- b6 on 06/! 1 4 K2018 at I Dmc?mkd 06f15f2018 by This doeunteut contains neither reeonnuendutious nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnopeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b3 per (Rm: b6 137E (Him Interview ofl I CommunionMED-3n: and I .On .F?ngc 2 Of 3 h3 per DOJIOIP 1:6 137:: b3 Per DOJIOIP b6 FD-fmza (Rm. b7: Interview ofl I .On 06f14f2018 .Hmc 3 Of 3 b3 per DOJIOIP b6 b7C 1 Of 2 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dnteofentn? On 12f19f2018,I I telephone email be addressl I had a telephone call with Assistant Special Counsel (ABC) Aaron Zelinsky, FBI Special Agent I FBI Special AgentI I and FBI Intelligence AnalystI I After being advised of the identities of the parties on the the following information: [Agent Notezl I I IandI IThe be individual has also been identified asI Iby a restaurant manager in b7: Boca Raton, FL. To date, the true identity of the unidentified male is unknown.] I Iwas not expecting a call from Special Counsel's b5 Office (ECO) investigators.I Isaid he thought I Iadvised he b6 had to tellI IthatI Isaid he had no idea whatI Iand didn?t know if he went by Iadded thatI I b6 When asked if he lives withI Isaid he guessed b6 tmestigutionen 12f19f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} :gc I I Date drafted 12f19f2018 by I I This decrement contains neither sue-r conclusions efthe FBIleaned te- mus' agency. it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK EQWI (Rm: I b6 (U?LFese-y- Phone Call with: ]12f19;?2?18 .On 12f19f2018 .F?ngc Isaid he thought anything I 156 if?: - 1'crime to lie to the h? said he was not lying and was "straight up" on what he had said on the call. - 1 some.? nimimm:ssun 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dwedrmn' 12f17f2018 On 12f03f2018, telephone email addressI I had a telephone call with Assistant Special Counsel (ASE) Aaron Zelinsky, FBI Special AqentI I b6 and FBI Intelligence AnalystI IAfter being advised of b7C the identities of the parties on the call,I Iprovided the following information: b3 Per DOJXOIP b6 b7: ASC Zelinsky advisedl b7C Ineither confirmed nor denied this informationh7C 12f03f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} h'i'E I DEIIC dl'EI?Cd 12f14f2018 by I I This document contains neither i'eeonmiendations nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl?l}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency?44 b7E semis 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dnteofentn? 12f17f2018 On 12f04f2018, I I telephone number I: email addressl I had a telephone call with Senior Assistant Special Counsel Jeannie Rhee, Assistant Special Counsel (ASC) Aaron Zelinsky, ASC Andrew Goldstein, FBI Special AgentI I FBI Special AgentI I FBI Supervisory Intelligence Analyst land FBI Intelligence AnalystI IAfter being advised of the identities of the parties on the call,I I proVided the follow1ng information: h3 Per DOJXOIP 136 FIG [Agent Note: A follow-up phone call unsuccessful.] b5 tmestigutionon 12f04f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} :gc Filc? I thtedra?cd 12f14f2018 by This decrement contains neither nor conclusions efthe FBIleaned te- mus' agency. it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK EQWI - 't . tease? nim2mm:ssun 1 Of 1 . :5 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dnteofentn? 12f17f2018 On 12f05f2018, I telephone email b6 addressI I had a telephone call with Assistant Special Counsel (ABC) Aaron Zelinsky, FBI Special AgentI I FBI Special AgentI I FBI Special AgentI Iand FBI Intelligence AnalystI I After being advised of the identities of the parties on the call,I Iprovided the following information: I I b6 I I ABC Zelinsky advisedI Ithat at the time of the captioned phone b5 call,I I I IsaidI I b6 I Isaid the name did not want his I 133 Per DOJIOIP b6 the Special Counsel's Office (ECO) later in the day regardingI 3 Per DOJIOIP 336 ASC Zelinsky to provide him with examples of case law addressin the issue ofI I b6 ln'i'csiigttiionon 12f05f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} b6 b7: Filctf Date drafted 12f17f2018 qu by This decrement contains neither nor conclusions efthe FBIleaned te- mus' agency. it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK EQWI 1 Of 2 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dnteofentry 08f08f2017 FEDERAL GRAND JURY MATERIAL - DISSEMINATE PURSUANT TO RULE Do not disseminate except as authorized by federal rule of criminal procedure On Monday, July 31, 201?. I be I telephone number I lwas interviewed telephonically by Senior Financial Investigator (SFI) . . . 135 per Office of the Spec1al Counsel, and SpeCial Agent] Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Office of the Inspector General. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing SFI and Agent and the nature of the the following be information: b7: b3 b6 It was explained the interviewing SFI and Agent had a Grand Jury Subpoena from the Office of the Special Counsel to serve Dmedm?ui b7E by I I This deeumeut contains neither rte-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl?l}' of the FBI and is leaned te- yeur ngeney'. it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. 3;.ng UTE31X2OIT New York, United States (Phone) b6 (Rm: (UN-hag) I I 31 2017 .On 07f31f201? .Hmc - . . amen nxm2ma:ssun 1 Of 2 . :5 Dateofentn? 09f12f2018 Alexandria Sheriff?s CaptainI telephone numberI I be was interviewed telephonically by FBI Special Agent] I b7: Present during a portion of this interview was Assistant United States After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the the following information: Paul Manafort is an inmate at the Alexandria Sheriff?s Jail. Manafort's defense team requested they be able to provide a laptop for Manafort?s use in the jail so Manafort could review discovery. Initially, they requested the laptop be used while Manafort was meeting with his b6 Per usus attorneys. This request was denied, but the ability for Manafort to b7c Per USMS review discovery in the law library on his own was granted. The request per USMS came through the US Marshal's Service, be per USMS per USMS Manafort's defense team was told the laptop could be per USES provided, but it would have to inspected to ensure it was not beino used b6 to communicate with anyone and could not connect to the internet. did not believe any explicit waiver of right to privacy in the laptop was to Manafort's legal teamb6 USMS per USMS per USMS signed, however it was made clear through that the laptop would be inspected to ensure it complied with the above parameters. Manafort was only permitted to use the laptop at certain times and only in the jail's law library. When not being used for this purpose, the laptop was maintained in the Watch Commander?s office. When the laptop was originally provided to the jail, a flash drive was also provided which contained discovery. At some point during the week of August 13?17, 2018, Manafort's legal team said they were going to pick up the flash drive and return it the following week. However, when they came to pick up the flash drive, they picked up the laptop as well. b5 not know why the laptop was picked up at that time. b7: 03f21f2018 Alexandria, Virginia, United States {Phone} meg I I Date drafted 09f10f2018 b6 I I This decrement contains neither sue-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pmpeny of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agencydistributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 (Rm: (U) Alexandria Sheriff?s Captain : Cominumion .F?ugc 2 2 On Tuesday August 21, 2018, Manafort's legal team returned the laptop with two flash drives. At that time, they said a password had been changed on the computer and they were unable to access a portion of it. had his Information Technology inspect the b6 laptop when it was returned. a password had been changed ch and he could not access a portion of it.l I ldid not have any further information on where the I '1 Of 3' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentnsal Isa] land LA interviewedl Iwith a date of birth of la teleohone be number of] land an email address ofi b?c 136lwas advised that the interview was voluntary. Furthermore, was advised that the interviewl I IAfter bein advised of the identities of the b5 interviewing agents, provided the following information: b6 b6 b3 b6 b3 136 1571!. Lesse? 04f29f2018 at bnitEd States {In Person) b3 b6 meg Date drafted 04f30f2018 bl?: by This deeunient neither conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pnepetty ef the FBI and is leaned te- mur agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed your agency. FBH 1 b3 FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} 3373: ContinuationoFFD-Bnlof (HEX-PW Interview Of .011 04f29f2018 .1?21gc 2 Of 3 b3 136 13711 1371I36 137:: b3 b6 b3 (Rm: CmanMmu?FDanm?(Uff?e??l Interview Of .On 04f29f2018 .hmc Knowledge of Subpoena Service b6 was given a subpoena for testimony (attached here) at approximately 4:58 PM. Shortly thereafter, the interview concluded. 1 Rexi?-R-l?) - 1 of 2 - sv- iISIcc UN UE-UE-EUZD Date ofenzn- 02! 07 f2 0 l7 JAMES BAKER, General Counsel of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) was interviewed at his office in FBI Headquarters by h? '1 -l the writer and Special Agent After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents, and the nature of the interview, BAKER provided the following information: QU) The interviewing agents advised BAKER that the purpose of the ill) interview was to document his interactions with DAVID CORN, a journalist employed by the publication Mother Jones, in which CORN provided BAKER with documents from a former intelligence officer. This individual also was former FBI Confidential Human Source (CHE) BAKER advised h?E _1 that he and CORN have been friends for years. On or about llf6/2016 he spoke with CORN, and he (CORN) brought up to BAKER that a former intelligence official was passing information "around town" about Republican Presidential nominee DONALD TRUMP. He asked BAKER if the FBI wanted the information. BAKER advised him to send him the information so that he (BAKER) could pass it to the appropriate FBI personnel to evaluate. CORN then emailed BAKER the documents from the former intelligence official ?1 After receiving the information BAKER forwarded the documents to WILLIAM PRIESTAP, the Assistant Director (AD) for Counterintelligence. Approximately two weeks after the Presidential election, CORN and BAKER spoke again about the matter, and CORN advised that some of the information provided by the former intelligence official of ?1 such a salacious nature that CORN was afraid to publish it without corroborating it through a second source, or through citing the existence of an investigation by the U.S. government into the matter. BAKER advised that he did discuss with CORN the existence of any FBI investigation into TRUMP or b7E '1 (U) ngiyEi During this conversation CORN also advised BAKER that ?1 assify On: assay lm'csiigmionon 12f19f2016 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Personl2f22f2016 Ir He is Date dnl?cd ng _2 This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions efliie FBI. [1 is the pmpeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agencyoulsidc 3min agency. 1 943,001 :1 133 ?1 ?2 FD-Tmza (Rev. [lS-liR-l?} WW Interview of FBI General Counsel James Baker .011 12f19f2016 .F?ngc 2 Of 2 reports were also provided to Congressional Representative NANCY PELOSI and Representative ELIJAH CUMMINGS. CORN was aware surprised 1 that his reporting did not get more attention in the media. BAKER and CORN have note had additional conversations )6 Z??BAKER advised that he understood that reports were 1 prepared for a Republican consultant who distributed them around Washington, D.C. MZM 1 Of 4 Dwedrmn' 11f14f2018 I Idate of birth (DOB) cellular b5 telephone number Iwas interviewed at his resideneel I b7: I I Special Agent lwas present and assisted with the interview. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b6 136 1371?. b6 b6 b6 b6 b7: meg Date drafted 10f09f2018 lm'est'tgutionon 10f04f2018 at United States {In Person} by This decrement contains neither conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pnepeny of the FBI and is leaned te- yeur ugeney'. it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 (Rm: Interview Of .On 10f04f2018 .Hmc 2 Of 4 b6 CORSI had a close relationship with Roger STONE STONE gave CORSI access to TRUMP. b5 had never met STONE. b6 aware that STONE had a history with TRUMP, however TRUMP kept his distance from STONE. b6 b6 b6 b6 190-302;: (Rm. mans-m} CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview Of .011 3 of . Page Ireoalled that it was the day when the Access Hollywood tape was made public and the PODESTA emails were released by WIKILEAKS. I (AGENT note: At approximately some time to reviewl Ito refresh his memory about his interactions with CORSI. Agents departed the residence until b6 (Rm: b.7113 (U) Interview Of .011 10f04f2018 .F?ngc 4 Of 4 b5 ISTONE provided an inside connection for CORSI to TRUMP and CORSI relished that relationship. b6 CORSI was supporting TRUMP from the beginning of candidacy for the position of President of the US. I36 137:! b6 1 Of 2 Dntcofentrj' 07f3lf2017 home addressl I cellular telephone numberl b6 I was interviewed in his residence. Also present for a portion b?o of the interview wasl I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the purpose of the the following information: b5 per DOJIOIP b6 DE per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP h6 155 per DOJIOIP b6 b3 OTEZTX2017 at I United States {In Person} b5 nee I Dmemmkd b7E lntest'tgution on by This document contains neither conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. b3 b6 (Rm: Interview Of .On 07f27f2017 2 of 2 ng b5 per DOJIOIP h6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 55 per DOJXGIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b?C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 -l of l- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (Rev. Date ofentn- 06f05f2018 1 date of birth[ lsocial security account numbed I was interviewed telephonically by FBI Forensic Accountantl land Senior Assistant Special Counsel Greg D. Andres. Also present on the conference call wasI I I IAfter being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the the following information: b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b6 b5 b7: Per b6 13'3?: 05f23f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} Date draitcd 05524/2018 on File by b5 per DOJIOIP b6 This decrement neither sac-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl?l}' of the FBI and is loaned to year agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed outside your agency. 7- 1 Of Dateofeutrjr llfl?UZUlB FEDERAL GRAND JURY INFORMATION This document contains information pertaining to a federal grand jury proceeding. The information may not be disseminated within or outside the FBI, except as provided for under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure wherein disclosure may be made to: an attorney for the government for use in performing that attorney's official duties; or any government personnel that an attorney for the government considers necessary to assist in performing that attorney's official duties. (U) On 09/19f2018 Special Agents (sail Iandl I 305 interviewedl lat I The interview was established by phone calls between and on 09/19/2018 in which SA of the purpose of the interview. hat the interview was entirely voluntary and it could end at anytime. Additionally, all questions truthfully during the interview. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing the following informationh7C [m'estigation on 09/, 1 9/2018 at United States {In Person 1' . b6 . 09f25f2018 1* lie Tr Date drafted b?r This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. it is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 (Rm: CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview C?fl I .On 09;?1912018 .F?ngc 136 b?C (U) 136 (U) 156 136 I b6 FD-fmza (Rm. 137;; I 137E CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview C?fl I .On 09;?1912018 .F?ngc 3 Of 7 b6 b6 b6 136 EN: 136 15762 b6 (Rm: b6 CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview Of .011 09;?1912018 .F?ngc 4 Of 7 b6 h7C (U?l b6 1:6 137': (U) 135 1573 (U) b6 3075. (U) 136 137': b6 FD-fmza (Rm. ns-ns-in} CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview C?fl I .On 09;?1912018 .F?ngc 5 Of 7 (U?l I 136 I 1570 {Uh'?C (U) b6 b7: {Uil b6 b7: (ml 136 me (Rm: I b6 b7: CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview C?fl I .On 09;?1912018 .F?ngc 6 Of 7 136 137:: b6 13136 Mt: {Uil I b3 b6 b'?C FD-mza (Rm. [us?nun} Interview Ofl I (U) provided his email address of to contact. 09f19f2018 for SA ng b6 of 7 b6 b7: 1 Of 2 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentt'y 1 0f 10x2 0 8 on 10/03/2018, Iwhite male, he Social Securitv Account Numberl Iwas interviewed at his ch place of residence, I Home Telephonel After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the the following information: does not have a personal relationship with Jerome CorSi, nor is he in regular communication with Corsi.l I I [have never met Corsi in person, but spoke to him be via telephoned I b7: I [when interacting with Corsi. They conversed with Corsil intesiigniionon lUfOszUlB at United Stat?'85 (In Person} meg Date dra?ed 10f?4f2018 by This doeuntent contains neither reeonnuendntions nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the piopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} 137: ng ContinuationMED-3020f '11? Interview - Du 10/032010 2 of 2 b6 b6 b6 1 Of 2 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry 10f10f2018 On 10/03/2018, Iwhite female, Social Security Account Numbe? I was interviewed at her place of residence,I I IHome TelephoneI Cellular Telephonel I I EmailI I and I After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the the following information: b6 b6 b6 H668 . . . b6 lntesiigntionon lUfOszUlB at United Stat?'85 (In Person} 1;?ch Date dra?ed 10f04f2018 by This doemnent eontnins neither nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pnopetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} 137: . Page ContinuationMED-3020f '11? Interview - Du 10/032010 2 of 2 b6 b6 b6 Ell-302 ?icsi 5-8-10) -l of 3- m! (?55 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 03?09-2020 I lhome addressl numberl Starbucks, (Hereafter, date of birth Date of entry mm 04f04f2018 cellular telephone numberl Iemail addressl social security was interviewed at After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, {Writers note: advised the interview was voluntary, any time or take a break. veracity was paramount in the interview, Prior to the start of the interview, he could stop the interview at It was also exolained provided the following information: was that stated he understood and wanted to proceed with the interview}. GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS was PAPADOPOULOSI (hereafter, Irecognized After confirming it Derived SIC dated 20120629 assify On: 20421231 04f03f2018 at UDitEd States (In Person} I DEIIC dl'?l?Cd Oqf?d?fz?l? b6 b6 b6 b6 136 1371?. b6 h?C h?E This document contains neither recommendations not conclusions of the FBI. [1 is the pnopetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency5403 to be distributed outside you agency. Fo-rmza (Rev. ContinuationoFFD-Bnlof (U) Interview Of .011 04f03f2018 .1?21gc 2 Of 3 ]At that point PAPADOPOULOS stated thatl lknew of contacts including JOSEPH MIFSUD (hereafter, PAPADOPOULOS stated did not remember any other details regardingl I PAPADOPOULOS didn?t bring up anv other members of the TRUMP Campaign. Iwas a twitter follower of could not remember anything else relevant about his conversation with PAPADOPOULOS nor did he have questions for the interviewing Agents. Writer he has the right to discuss the topics covered in this interview, but writer askedl Ito keep the interview confidential. I A co of the hand written notes, report, drivers license information and negative National Crime Information Center report are attached to this document and made part of the file. b6 I36 137:! b6 137:! 13:6 1376. 13:6 1:176. 136 b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 (Rm: b7E Megawa? ContinuationoFFD-Bnlof (U) Interview Of .011 04f03f2018 .1?21gc 3 Of 3 Egg/mm;? romaine-saw) 1 Of 2 Dateofentry 07f11f2018 I previously identified, was contacted by FBI b5 Special Agentl telephonically. after being advised of the b7: identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, the following information: b5 per h6 b5 per DOJIOIP 136 1370 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP hi": b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7: Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (Phone, 07f10/2013 an Email} h? Hm# I 0Tf11/2018 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. it is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its 5409 to be distributed outside your agency. b6 (Rm: contact .On 07fl?f2018 .Hmc 2 Of 2 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 nimgmm:souu '1 Of 9' Dwedrmn' llf30f2017 DOCUMENT RESTRICTED TO CASE PARTICIPANTS This document contains information that is restricted to case participants. I I date of birthI Iaddress b6 Icellular telephone number b7: Iwas interviewed at her place of employment, I inI Iby FBI Supervisory Special AgentI land Special Agent After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the intervieun the following information: Background hE began working for Mercury Public Affairs (Mercury) in New York. b6 Mercury I Iboss at Mercury was worked on Mercury had a government relations section prior to its acquisition of Clark Weinstock; howeverJr Mercury?s GR section was not as robustI I When b6 Mercury acquired Clark Weinstock it became Mercury/Clark Weinstock After this role remained the same. ECFMU lme??anml 09f26f201T :u States (In Person} Ir?tlett.E I I Date dra?ed 09f29f2017? b6 hr I I WE This deeumeut contains neither conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pneperty of the FBI and is leaned te- yeur ugeney'. it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng 18 (Rm: CommunionoFFD-??luf (U) I Interview .On 09f26f201? .F?ngc working on a client called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine (ECFMU) sometime in 2012. first recollection of this client was when] Itold her MCW had a new clientl I The client was comprised of "rich people" who had a benefit in better Ukrainian?American relations. Gates was the point of contact. I Isaid Gates worked for Paul Manafort 2 of 9 and was a ?mover and shaker". I I It was clear tol I that Gates was considered an important client. the ECFMU was described as an organization established by members of the Ukrainian ruling party, the Party of Regions and funded by "oligarchs". The purpose of establishing the ECFMU was to create a favorable economic situation for the Ukrainian government which the oligarchs could use to enrich themselves and their businesses. The fact that the ECFMU was a non?governmental organization (NGO) was not abnormal tol Iexplained that are established and used as vehicles by companies all of the time to relay a companies' message and add to the "echo chamber". an example of the "Real Cost Campaign". In this campaign, cement companies created a non- profit to promote the message that cement was better than asphalt. Although it was not abnormal for businesses to create and use an NGO to promote their message, thought it was abnormal for a sovereign government to do this (Rm. [us?nun} Communion of of ml Interview 09,2?26f201? mg, 3 of 9 Gates? agenda as it related to MCW to be centered around a NATO and in jail, that the few main issues. Namely, Ukraine's desire to become a member of the European Union, the fact that Yulia Tymoshenko deserved to be how Ukraine was working on economic and corruption reform, and upcoming elections needed to be seen as fair and free. From the beginning of her work on this client, that the ECFMU existed. the ECFMU had a website already. was that the ECFNU was still in development stages and needed to be seen as a credible source in the us. Iwas someonel could never get on the phone. I understood thatl I At first, the ECFMU seemed legitimate then things went "sideways". a few examples of what she considered odd. MCW was being asked to obtain visas so Ukrainian government officials? wives could go shopping in Miami. MOW set up interviews with NPR and the Washington Post for visiting Ukrainian government officials only to have them cancel last minute. I I was aware the ECFMU had public relations firms in Europe as well. FARA The more MCW did for the ECFMU, the more how and why they did (FREE). not register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act From early on in work for the ECFNU, reporters such as Rosie Gray from Buzzfeed and Eli Lake from the Daily Beast and Newsweek questioned why MCW was not registering under FARA for this work. registered under FARA before and did not know what FARA was initially. Through conversations with I I realized and others at I MCW's work for the ECFMU required a FARA registration. Everyone to about the topic was uncomfortable with the fact that b6 (Rm: CommunionoFFD-??lof IUII IInterview .On 093(263'2017' 4 of 9 . Page MCW had not registered under FARA. sense was the reason they b6 did not register was because Gates did not want to. not hear b7: this from Gates directly, but that was her sense based upon conversations with others at MCW. was that MCW needed to register under FARA if be they were lobbying in the US for a foreign entity. MCW was b7: setting up meetings for Ukrainian government officials with US government officials. said the work MCW did seemed more like "favors" for the Ukrainian government and work for the The EGFMU would just "get in the way". In conversations withI to b6 register under FARA, but didn?t because of Gates. I I b7: I Iwas on calls withI Iin which MCW employees complained that the work they were doing for Gates was work for the Ukrainian government and MOW needed to register under FARA. understood the issues people had and seemed like he was in agreement. wanted to do his best work for the client, but he was given strict orders from Gates not to register under PARA. say, "technically" we work for an NGO. present for some of the same discussions about why MCW b6 didn?t register under FARA. Similar toI Iwould say MCW worked for an NGO. I I It was obvious toI IthatI Iwanted to keep the EGFMU as a client because the retainer was high and considered Gates to be an influential person. Additionally, was trying to expand his international business. there was more money and more prestige in the international sector. Many foreign entities wanted to hire US firms because the US firms used more advanced digital tactics. spoke with I: about the FARA issue as well. b6 seemed hesitant that MGW was not registered under FARA. not b7: involved in this client on a day to day basis. was brought in on certain aspects of the client for advice and as a sounding board. I Iwho worked on this client. be I we I Ihad little communication with h5 I I b7C I Imember of the Mercury team. b6 I 137:: b6 FD-mza (Rm. ns-ns-m} b7: I I Interview .On 09f26f201? .Hmc 5 Of 9 I Italked about he the FARR issue as well. I Ijust "did what he was told". b7: b6 I Ialso talked withl lat Mercurvl I b6 I I ch I IknewI I feelings about the ECFMU being controlled by the Ukrainian government. began questioning MOW on the matter; it forced MCW b5 to do research and try to answer a number of questions MCW had not been able to get the answers to earlier on. There were basic questions MCW could not answer about the ECFMU. to do research on the ECFMU, but it was difficult to learn much about them. Some of the basic, unanswered questions were: where was the money coming from,I I I and what intellectual feducation/research products did the NGO create and/or disseminate. When of think tanks, she thought of the Brookings Institute or the Heritage Foundation who had intellectual platforms, hosted round table discussions and were centers for influential ideas and thought. The ECFMU did not do this. to understood exactly where the ECFMU's money b6 came from. The only answer MCW got from Gates 1"rich people" b7: in Russia or Ukraine. "rich people" who have a vested interest in closer relations between Ukraine and the European Union were funding the ECFMU. never got to the bottom of the issue and compared it to the rabbit hole in Alice in Wonderland. b6 b6 b6 1* D-3I3211IRC11 IInterview .On 09f26f201? .Hmc 6 Of 9 b6 b6 only knew about the derstood the ECFMU was established by the Ukrainian government. did not think the ECFMU was independent. In work for the ECFMU, everything done was political in nature. There were no cultural or educational events. When asked where Gates and received their direction, b6 they would say things like, "We?ll get back to you." Gates andI Ireceived direction from Yanukovych's office. Through work for I I Ibelieved Yanukovych himself, or someone close to him was directing the ECFMU. b6 was toldI members founded and funded the ECFMU. That coupled with the fact that everything MCW did for the ECFMU was really for namely, helping with gerrymandering, slandering Tymoshenko, and placing PoR?favorable op?eds, made it obvious that the funded the ECFMU. the ECFMU was "shady". heard MOW was getting b6 paid with checks which came from Cyprus. knew Cyprus was a haven b7: for Russian offshore money laundering. could not recall exactly how she learned about the money coming from Cyprus. have seen some documentation of this, or may have been told this by someone else. I Irecalled her and her co?workers,I I Iabout how the money was coming from Cyprus. b6 I No one who worked on the ECFMU, includingI I believed the ECFMU was independent from the Ukrainian government. Neither I Iwere in a position to argue about this topic. Fo-rmza (Rm. [us?nun} CommunionoFFD-??lof (UII Interview .On .F?ngc Of 9 not see any correlation between the work MCW was doing for the ECFMU and the stated mission of fostering a closer EU?Ukraine relationship. Everything MCW did for the ECFMU was to give legitimacy to the Ukrainian government?s message. was told that budget was not an issue on this client. told there was no budget and to just ask for whatever she wanted andfor needed and they would make it happen. the amount the ECFMU was paying Mercury was a high amount. I I I Inever saw any proof that what] [and/or Gates said was true. Documents knew Gates was Manafort?s "number two". also knew Manafort was close to the President of Ukraine. ]it was clear that Manafort and Yanukovych were directing Gates and the ECFMU. knew Yanukovych was a "puppet" for Putin and heard Manafort had questionable dealings in Russia (Rm: b6 Interview .On 09f26f201? .Hmc 8 Of 9 b6 b7: Other met Manafort. I Ireceived her instructions from be Gates. Gates aparoved strategy and content. I [had some input as b7: well, but mainly did not know the hierarchy between and Gates. BothI Iand Gates were on weekly calls. did not Gates disagreeing about things. Much of the regarding the ECFMU and the b6 Ukrainian government was written in Russian. one media b7: outlet in Ukraine which was in English. Most of what this news outlet wrote indicated the ECFMU was a front for At some point, Ukrainian President Yanukovych came to the US for a UN meeting. This occurred sometime in October 2012. I b6 I Irecalled b7: Yanukovych wanted to be interviewed at the same time President Obama was giving a speech. no notable reporter would miss Obama?s speech to interview Yanukovych. I I I Ithe Wall Street Journal to do the interview. In the end, Yanukovych did not say anything newsworthy. Gates was angry because the article didn't end up on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. The Skadden Report referred to a report the Ukrainian government paid a law firm to write. The report was supposed to review the Tymoshenko imprisonment and provide third party verification. wasn?t sure b5 who paid the law firm for the report. I Iread and reviewed the b7: reportI I Irecalled the date of the report?s release kept getting pushed back. I Isaw a draft of the reportI I Ibut they were never approved. did not know why. In ItoldI Ihe was approached by Jeff Horowitz b5 of the Associated Press. I ItoldI Ihe gave Horowitz her b7: b6 Fo-mza (Rm. mans-m} ch llnterview .On .F?ngc 9 Of 9 number as well. never contacted by Horowitz and never gave a statement to the press about this matter. With regards to retention it being b5 quite relaxed. there was a policy in place which indicated email had to be moved into folders or they would be deleted after a certain amount of time. The documents shown to attached to this FD 302. Follow?Up Following this interview, Iemailed documents b6 she found in her lemail account. That email and b7: attached documents have been attached to this FD 302. (Rev. -l of l- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 06f05f2018 b6 date of birthl I social security account b7: numberl I was interviewed telephonically by FBI Forensic Accountantl land Senior Assistant Special Counsel Greg D. Andres. Also present on the conference call wasl IAfter being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the interview rovided the followin information: b5 per b6 135 per DOJKDIP b6 b7!) b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per IDOJIOIP b6 13'1?: 155 per DOJIOIP b6 05f23f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} Filetf I thtedraitcd 05f24f2018 b6 by This document contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnoperty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK lgC?U'l ,m ssoi nimgmm:ssuu 1 Of 1 - - :3 Doteofentry 08f16f2017 On August 14, 201? at approximately 2:50 PM, Special Agent (SA) b5 land SAI attempted to locate and interview b7: lat his residence, located at Upon arrival at the residence, the Agents rang the doorbell and were met at the door Agents identified themselves and be requested a few minutes to speak with declined b7: the interview and inquired as to whether or not the Agents had a warrant. The Agents responded that they did not and again requested to speak with I then relayed that it was not a good time for him to speak and requested that the Agents call him back at a later time. provided a phone number of where he could be reached. was provided with contact information for both SA b6 Then interview was then discontinued. ch On May 15, 201?, at approximately 12:45 PM, SAI Iattempted to reach 55 phone numbers IandI I Both attempts b7: were met with no answer. lm'esiigotion on 08j14f2017 at United Stat?'85 (In Person} b3 b6 met; I I Date dra?ed 08f15f2017' b7: by This doeument contains neither reeonnuendotions nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the poopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 1 Of 1 Dnteofentn? 08f23f2017 On August 21! 201?, SSAI Ireceived a telephone call fromI stated that he was not represented by attorneyl I who he had spoken with but toldI Ithat I Idoes not need representation for meeting with the FBI. I I explained that he wanted to cooperate and was willing to be interviewed without an attorney.I Iexplained he would check his schedule and email SSAI Ito setup a time for the interview. Assistant Special Counsel Aaron Zelinsky also confirmed he no longer represented lmcsiiguiionull 08121;?2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} Filer.E I I Date dm?cd 08f22f'2017? by b6 b6 136 leC This doeumeut contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agency: it and its contents are not to be distribulcd outside your agency. 1 Of 8 Dwedrmn' lUfleZUl? I date of birth I b6 Isocial security account number lwas interviewed b7: telephone number isl land his email address isl was advised that intentionally providing false statements to the interviewing Agents was a violation of federal law. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the the following information: the nature of the interview to be a discussion be about Russia and the 2016 his willin ness to was no speak with the interviewing Agents about what he knew longer represented by his attorney for this matter. relayed that in his opinion, this matter was a bunch of smoke and he hoped that the investigative findings would eventuall be released so that those findings would be known to the about the location of the interviewers current duty station and whether or not the Agents were detailed under the Special Counsel, ROBERT S. MUELLER The Agents confirmed that they were detailed to the Special Counsel Office in Washington, DC. After the Agents attempted to August 14, 2017, he :3 prepared a document outlining his initial thoughts on the Special Counsel to ublish the article in the press, but ultimately chose not to do putting the names of the interviewing Agents in his article to the press. stated he had prepared the document in the interest of best serving the public. b3 b6 lme??anmt 08f23f201T United States {In Person} :2 meg thtedra?ed 08f24f2017' by This doeumeut contains neither reeonnuendutious nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng (Rm: b6 Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of 08,!23x201? .F?ngc 136 137C b3 b6 b6 (Rm. b7: Interview Of .On 08f23f201? .Hmc 3 Of 8 Iunderstood the FBI had attempted to interview I be had learned that information from speaking withl Ialso toldl labout a recent news article related to this investigation, which was featured in the Washington then inquired as to who else the interviewing Agents had spoken with, and who they had planned to interview in the future. relayed that he did not hold any employment in the administration, and that he considered himself to be inquired as to whether or not the Agents had spoken with SAM CLOVIS (CLOWIS). CLOVIS as having knowledge of the background of the foreign policy team; although CLOVIS was not very active after the team was stood up. CLOVIS was co-campaign chairman at the beginning of the campaign. Given that role, CLOVIS was active in formulating the blueprint of the foreign policy team. When asked if any campaign members brought up topics related to Russia, provided the names of PAPADOPOULOS and CARTER PAGE (PAGE). Those be two individuals were part of the forei olicy advisory team, but not part of the national security the names of individuals who were part of both teams; KEITH KELLOGG (KELLOGG), Irecalledl Iwas only present for one of the foreign policy meetings, which was held at the TRUMP TOWER in New York. I Iviewedl IRELLOGG as being b6 did not see CLOVIS much, thereforel Icould not speculate as to what relationship was like with he spoke with CLOVIS b6 stated the remainder of the foreign policy advisers did not :3 have anything to do with the foreign policy team would provide suggestions up to the national security team, but there was no evidence the information they pushed up the chain actually made its way to TRUMP. (Rm: CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview Of .011 .F?ngc 4 of 8 I lwas shown an email communication referencingl JEFF SESSIONS (SESSIONS) took over as the nominal head of the rou and J.D. GORDON (GORDON) inserted himself as the coordinator. was not sure how GORDON assumed that role but the others seemed to work their administrative issues through GORDONJ Idescribed SESSIONS as being too busy and high up for administrative tasks. recalled there being a lot of jockeying for positions at the time of that meeting. IPAPADOPOULOS brought up a potential meeting with VLADIMIR PUTIN (PUTIN). When asked what the response was to that proposal, recalled the more mature members thought it was a bad idea. When asked to provide further specifics about the context in which brought that topic PAPRDOPOULOS relaying his thoughts on possibly setting up a meeting between PUTIN and the foreign policy relayed that some of the foreign policy guys were not politically savvy about stuff, and as a result, a lot of things were misconstrued by the explained that a lot of foreign governments wanted to meet with the TRUMP campaign team so it made sense to him. When asked what response was to proposal of the meeting with not recall exactly what SESSIONS had said, but surmised that SESSIONS would probably not have approved of such an idea. When asked if there were any other individuals who were interested in engaging with he was only aware of instances related to PAPADOPOULOS and PAGE. explained that he generally advised against showing ones cards to the enemy, but sometimes it was good to keep your enemies close in certain TRUMP as being a fresh, disruptive approach to many things. For that reason, was brought in to help with the campaign b6 Fo-fmza (Rm; ns-na-m; ch Cmnmemn?FDJ?ld?iU} Interview Of .On 08f23f201? .Hmc 5 Of 8 I b6 Inl Imind, statements were ultimately b7: inconsequential after that that it was also the job of the foreign policy team to throw ideas out during the campaign, and that he believed there was nothing inappropriate about PAPADOPOULOS doing just that. b6 IWhen asked if the subject of Ukraine surfacedl Istated TRUMP did not see why the team should get involved in Ukraine, because it was not in their added that TRUMP held the same views about Germany and other countries. Later in the he could not remember if he PAPADOPOULOS had actually brought up the idea of meeting with but if he did, then everyone would have remained silent about it. and could not recall whether TRUMP, or any of the other foreign ?policy team members, were encouraging or discouraging towards idea. was not aware of anything related to the alleged Russian b5 hacking of computer servers at the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE (DNC). b7: viewed the Special Counsel investigation as a spin-off from that alleged activity; of which he has seen no evidence to support the fact that the Russians were actually behind the not observe any activity in the TRUMP campaign which would support the idea of collusion with the Russian government. In his opinion, the TRUMP campaign was comprised of good the campaign may have seen some sort of economic benefit with doing business with Russia in the future, but he could not think of anyone dumb enough to collude with Russia who would have the ability. b6 viewed the Russian collusion investigation and the hacking of the emails as being in two separate not recall anyone in the campaign having substantive discussions about hacked emails, but recalled they had joked about how they would use such information against the other not aware of anyone in the TRUMP campaign who claimed the Russians had emails they wanted to disclose during the campaign. many articles in the media related to PAGE and his b5 connections to Russia and relayed that PACE had no campaign interactions ch with Russia. opinion was the media had boosted the entire b6 (Rm: Interview Ofl .On 08f23f201? .Hmc 6 Of 8 b6 issue. In approximatelyl viewed PAGE as seemingly neutral but recalled that SESSIONS viewed him as shakey, and was supportive of the eventual sidelining of PAGE. PAGE was sidelined when STEVE BANNON (RANNON) and CONWAY were leading the campaign team. Prior to that, it was led by PAUL MANAFORT (MANAFORT) and COREY LEWANDOWSKI (LEWANDOWSKI). The foreign policy team in Washington DC dissolved after that incident and GORDON was considered Persona non- Grata (PNG) with the campaign. GORDON eventually left the cam ai as a result of a fall out over not being paid by the be recalled RICK DEARBORN and STEPHEN MILLER (MILLER) were also part of the campaign team after CLOVIS. SESSIONS was the first U.S. Senator to endorse TRUMP, and therefore he became the head of the campaign team in lieu of CLOVIS. SESSIONS brought both DEARBORN and MILLER to the campaign. WALID PHARES (PHARES) was part of the advisory team and was an expert in Middle Eastern matters. PHARES is a Lebanese Christian. JOHN MASHBURN (MASHBURN) worked forl frequent contact with GORDON during the campaignf given be that GORDON was a not sure if GORDON held that b7: official title or if it merely stemmed from prior relationship with PAPADOPOULOS, and PAGE also attended the RNC. PAGE went on his own accord and PAPADOPOULOS may have met with a guy who gave a presentation on it was allegedly at the RNC where SESSIONS met with the Russian Ambassador, though he had no direct information related to that event. Irecalled hearing about that meeting after it had happened,? has not aware of TRUMP having any impact on the GOP platform during the RNC. b6 The TRUMP campaign tried to appeal to moderates and elites and held b6 weekly meetings or phone calls. On many occasionsJ b6 FD-fmza (Rm. ns-na-m} ch Interview Of .On 08f23f201? .Hmc Of 8 Inever viewed Russian hackin as being important, given the b5 bigger issues that faced the to explain the commitments and risks associated with each of those larger provided North Korea as being an example of a larger, emerging threat that they discussed. ?Istated he was tired of the Cold War mentality becauseI? b6 When asked why PAPADOPOULOS left the campaign shortly after his interview with the INTERFAX news agench IstatedI I ha I I PAPADOPOULOS and PAGE both had issues early in the campaign and they were the least gualified members of the team.I I I land it was determined that PAGE had to go because of all the negative publicity surrounding him in the media. The TRUMP campaign was behind in the poles at that time and they could not afford any negative publicity. PAGE was let go in August, after both cases, PAGE and PAPADOPOULOS were removed from the campaign team] I Ultimately it was who decided to remove PAPADOPOULOS from the b6 campaign as well. could not recall a specific incident resulting ch in removal, but was aware of two articles that had been written about him in the media. One article was featured in the New York Times and the other was the Washington Post article told about. the campaign as being loosely structured. The b5 foreign policy advisory team, which both PAGE and PAPADOPOULOS were b7: members of, was not actually part of the campaign team. b6 again relayed that a lot of foreign governments wanted to meet with the TRUMP team during that time period, b6 (Rm: CommunionoE?FD-??lof (U) Interview Of .011 03:!23f2017 8 of 8 and recalled Europe was worried about views on NATO. When asked if he was close with REINCE PRIEBUS he was not but be he did have friends in the RNC. When asked who else the FBI should speak with about this matter, recommended the Agents interviewl b6 I. As of the date of this interviewJ the Agents that he was still subject to the non- b5 disclosure agreement he had signed with the TRUMP organization b7: does not use the Skype application to make phone calls. b6 The original documents provided being maintained for b3 the file in a physical 1A envelope. Copies of those documents have been enclosed for the file as digital lA attachments to this FD-302. 1 Of 2 Wag/W DECLASSIEIED matte FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofenti'y 09f06f2017 FEDERAL GRAND JURY MATERIAL DISSEMINATE PURSUANT TO RULE Do not disseminate except as authorized by federal rule of criminal procedure 6{ (U) On August 24, 2017, Icontacted Ito see if he has any questions aboutl [the previous day. [indicated that he I SSA I Iexplained the FBI could assist with that if he wanted. (U I (LI) I (U) on: l.4{b) Derived NSISC- 2009061 assify On: ltII'est'tgntion File if Date drafted This deetnnent eentnins neither recommendations ne-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the piepeny of the FBI and is learned to year agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside yeln' agency b6 FD-lnza (Rev. 05?03-10} b7: Tele honic conversation with: CommunionGNU-EMU: .On Jungthat he would still be available if the FBI has :2 follow up questions for him. He will WW - tame 1 Of 1 1; Dwedewn' date of birth I cell telephone home telephone Ihome he addressl I was interviewed. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the provided the following information: h? b6 b6 At approximately 8:00 p.m. on January 22, 2018, Iprovided his iPhone, model number serial number to the interviewing agents. signed an FD-941, Consent to Search Computer . . . . i he roviding his consent to search his iPhoneI given an Receipt for Property, for his iPhone. At b7D approximatel 10:15 Special Agentl lreturned the iPhone another FD-597, Receipt for Property. . . b6 lme??anmt 01f22f2018 United States (In Person} Hm?l I Dmemmkd Olf22f2018 This deeument contains neither nor conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. 1 1 2 7' 8 5442 - tame? nimgmm:eeun 1 Of 1 - - t; FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Datcofentry 08f29f2017 I IDENTITY) was contacted on his mobile telephone! be I I after being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the the following information: h6 b6 b6 b7: the writer shortly. and would re?oontaot fret-Je- b6 me if I I Date drafted 7 1 4 If 2 1 Ft" 1373 I I by This document contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnopeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. 1 1 2 7' 8 5443 lntest'tgutionon O7E11X2017 at United States (Prion-E} t?x ,m eeni nimgmm:eeun 1 Of 2 - - :3 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dwedbmn' 08f29f2017 IDENTITY) was contacted on his mobile telephone! b6 after being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b6 will be providing contact information to the writer. 1:6 1:16 b7C b6 b6 b6 lme??anon an I States (Phon6} Filetf I Date drafted 075173?2017 mi This document contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnopeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. 1 1 2 7' 8 5444 b6 137E UNCLASSI (Rm: (UfaLFe-H-e? Interview of CommunionMED-3n: 0F (PROTECT IDENTITY) . Page 136 HR: b6 b?C 13713 1 Of 1 Date ofentn- 05f12f2017 FEDERAL GRAND JURY MATERIAL - DISSEMINATE PURSUANT TO RULE Do not disseminate except as authorized by federal rule of criminal procedure On April 18, 2017, work I be I I was interviewed at his place of business,l I I After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the the following informationb7: 04118f2017 I?l United States (In Person} by This deemnent contains neither nor conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pnepetty of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agency. it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutstde your agency. nimgmm:ssun '1 Of 3' UNCLASSI FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 06f13f2018 On Monday, May 14, I I I appeared at the Office of the Special CounselI I b6 I IAlso present were Senior ch Assistant Special Counsel Andrew Weissmann, Assistant United States Attorneyl IFBI Forensic Accountantl land I Iattorney, Ifurnished the following informationper DOJIOIP h? b5 per h6 b7C 05f14f2018 EH Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} . b6 D: 06f01f2018 1e tmdu?ui m. This deeuntent contains neither nor conclusions eflne FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mur agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutside your agency. 1 1 2 7' 8 544g (Rev. Con?rmation of of (U/f +353") 05f14f2018 .E'zgc b6 2of3 155 per DOJIOIP b6 b?C b5 per DOJIOIP b3 b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b3 b6 55 per DOJIOIP b3 b6 b6 b5 per DOJXOIP b6 b5 per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b3 b6 (Rm: I .On 05f14f2018 .hmc per DOJIOIP b6 (Rev. -1 of l- 08f23f2017 On August 2! 201?, Special Agents (SA) :gc attempted an interview of Aaron Nevins; residence address I IFlorida. At approximately SA arrived at Nevins? residence. and Nevins answered the door. After being b5 advised of the identities of the agents and purpose of the visitf Nevins requested agents contact his attorney. Agents were previously unaware Nevins had legal counsel. Nevins went inside to obtain contact information for his counsel and shortly thereafter returned to the door and provided agents with counsel's contact information. Agents advised they would follow up with his counsel as requested. The provided counsel contact information was as follows: Email: b5 Office: Mobile: . . b6 tm-cstigutionon 08102;?2017 at Florida, United States {In Person} Filett.E Date dm?cd 08f14f2017? by This document contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 ETD-302 (Rev. 5-8-10) On October 16, 1 Agents arrived atl 2018, -l of 2- FBI Special Agents I Iattempted to locate and interview Date of entry llf05f2018 and Isocial security account number residence located atl to make contact withl I At approximately 10:00 AM, him at telephone number a voicemail. SAI intent to speak withl phone call tol During the call, 50. land immediately asked inquired as to the nature that it pertained to Idate of birth I lat his lat approximately 9:00 AM and lby ringing the doorbell fo? I Those attempts were met with negative results. Agents began attempts to reach [Agents attempted by calling lAfter several unsuccessful attempts identified himself and relayed the lAt around 1:30 PM, SA made a subsequent was able to successfully make contact with him. provided the following information: spell his full name and of the interview and SA SA did informed Istated he would be willing to meet with the Agents and relayed that hel surrounding did not wish to speak with him abou? land that lthe interview would primarily focus on the details the Agents Iagreed to meet with the Agents inl [on the following day. [and he preferred to meet with the Agents somewhere near that location. SA confirmed the Agents would travel to meet with him and both parties agreed to a tentative time of 2:00 PM. lm'esiiguiion on 1 01"! 2 6f 2 018 at Uni tad States I1 PE IS on 1' File 4'15 DEIIC dl'EI?This doeument contains neither i'ceomniendmions nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agency: it and its contents are not to be distribulcd outside your agency b6 1 D-ana (U) Attempt to locate and interview Cominumion of mi I .011 ,f 2 6 f2 0 8 .F?ugc 2 2 informed that call him on the following day after b5 a location for the interview was identified. b7: Later that text messages confirming the interview location and time on the following day. A screen shot of the exchange is enclosed for the file as a digital 1A attachment to this 302. I Itook a photograph ofl Iwhich is 55 also enclosed for the file as a digital 1A attachment to this FD-302. b7: ETD-302 (Rev. 5-8-10) -1 of l- 01f08f2018 Date of entry On January 08, 2018 at Itelephoned I social security account number INew York, New York a roximatel 3:30 PM, Special Agent (SA) I Iand spoke withI I date of birthI I I esides atI 10028. SA identified himself as an FBI Agent currently assigned to the Special Counsel?s Office in Washington, DC. SA requested an interview provided his availability for an interview on January ll, 2018, at 2:00 PM. reguested the interview take place atI Iin New York and SA confirmed the date, time, and location. he believed the Special Counsel's investigation was bullshit and that he was not aware of any evidence of collusion between the DONALD J. TRUMP campaign and the he was only with the TRUMP campaign for a very short period of time and as such he had little information to provide to the FBI. Ithen voiced his JAMES B. COMEY. discontent for former FBI Director, then stated he had the utmost respect for the FBI and that he wanted to fully cooperate with this investigation despite his general disagreement with it. He relayed that he believes in the overall mission to protect the people of the United States. SA confirmed the date and time of the interview in New York and the call was ended. Shortly thereafter,I Itelephoned the Special Counsel?s Office and spoke with SM information for SA Ireguested contact and provided his email address of SAI follow-up email with contact information . lm'cstigution on File 01f08f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} Date dra?cd by 01f08f2018 This document contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl?l}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. tests (Rev. -l of l- ofentn- Olf10f2018 On January 9, 20l8, Special Agent tele?hone call from attorneyI New York, New York 102?94 land his office number isI Iin regards to SAI Iattempt to was representingI b6 [received a 1:17?: Icellular telephone number is Iadvised he schedule an interview withI Ion the day prior. I Iinguired as to the nature of the Special Counsel?s interest in I ISHI Irelayed being viewed as a potential ch b6 witness to the overall investigation and that the FBI wished to speak with him about his early interactions with the DONALD J. TRUMP campaign. I Iprovided thad agreed to making available for an interview on be . . . 7 Thursday, January l1, 2018, at office. A tentative time was scheduled for that interview and the call was ended. llii'csiigiliiolloll 01f09f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} . b6 . . Olf09f2018 i it Date stunted by This doemnent contains neither nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned to }'ous' agency: it and its eontents tll'c not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK lgC?U'l tennis} 3 7- 1 Of FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 06f05f2018 b6 b7: I [date of birth social security account numberl I was interviewed at the Special Counsel's Office, 395 E. Street SW, Washington, D.C. 20546. Icell phone numberl and his email addresses are and Present during the Present from the Special Counsel?s Office was attorney, AARON ZELINSKY, FBI Special Agent,? I PEI Special Agent, and FBI Intelligence Analyst, I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the the following information: I I DE per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP 136 1370 b6 b6 b7C I b5 per Ease 02f22f2018 EH Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person2018 Dmem?kd by This deemnent contains neither ne-r conclusions oftne FBI. [1 is the pnepetty of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agency. it and its contents are net to be distributed your agency. FBK 3;.ng (Rev. Interview of on O2 02f22f2018 b6 2 of 7 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b7: b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b?C b5 per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 (Rm: b6 Interview of on O2 .On 02f22f2018 .mmc 'per DOJKOIP Ib? b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7: b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 (Rev. b6 Interview of on O2 02,2?22f2018 mgr; 40f? b5 per DOJIOIP b6 I I b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7C (Rm: b6 b7: Interview of on 02 .On 02f22f2018 .1?ngc 5 Of 7 I b5 per DOJKOIP per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b?C b6 b5 per DDJIOIP b5 per b6 b6 (REY. b7: Interview of on O2 .On 02f22f2018 .Hmc 6 Of 7 b6 said STONE was talking to MANAFORT very frequently during this period in time. I I b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b6 b5 per b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b6 (Rm: b7: Interview of on O2 .On 02f22f2018 .Hmc per DOJIOIP le =1 b7: b5 per b5 per DOJIOIP b6 (Rev. -1 of l- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- le15f2019 date of birth social security account numberl made statements to SA 133 I36 I33 1:16 b3 b6 I 135 per DOJKOIP b3 b6 1:13 136 1 155 per DOJIOIP 133 1:6 lntesiigution on at 133 (In Person} 1:16 File b7C Date drafted Olf15f2019 by This deeuntent eentnins neither recommendations ne-r conclusions eflne FBI. [1 is the ptepeny ef the FBI and is loaned to year agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutside your agency. 1 Of 2 Dnteofentn? lzfl?UZUl? 136 1371?. Iand Iwas interviewed I After being advised of telephonically with dial in number the identity of the interviewing Special Agentl I Intelligence I Forensic Accountantl I and Prosecutor Ryan K. Dickey and the nature of the interview,I Iand the following information: b5 pier DOJIOIP b6 1372. b5 per 136 hi?: b5 per 136 EN: b6 tm-cstigutienon 12f08f2017 at Wshington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} b?c Fileii SSH-2230634 Datedra?ed by This deeument neither nor conclusions efthe FBIleaned te- mur agencydistributed exitstde your agency. FBK igC?U'l b6 .I-rlt? v} Pr: Jr .1 (Rm: {is-ns-lnCommunion 0F (if (U) .011 12f08f2 01? .F?ngc 2 Of 2 E'D-Siil (Rev. CLASSIFIED BY: REASON: ON: {Ci DATE: DS-UE-EUED ALL HEREIN IS EXCEPT 12-31-2042 WHERE SHOWN OTHERWISE manager . After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Special Agents and O?fnmorwsr- Bruce OHR, date of birth (DOB) the Associate Deputy Attorney General and Director of the Department of Justice's Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force was interviewed at FBI Headquarters, 935 Ave., the nature of the interview, stated he had recently been contacted by Christopher Steele on three separate occasions via WhatsApp or FaceTime. On 12 March 2017, Senator Grassley asking Steele to disclose additional details regarding the dossier Steele compiled on Donald J. Trump. concern abou? GKE?eE+net- On 15 March 201?, Steele told OHR if asked, Steele would tell the investigating congressional committees what he could about the dossier, the information. On 26 March 2017, Steele told OHR he expected a letter from the congressional committee investigation at any moment. Steele was aware that Glen Simpson has already revived such a letter. Steele further told DRAFT MATERIAL Do not disseminate outside the FBI without the permission of the originator or program MW FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION -1 of 2- Dnte of entry 04f04f201? currently Washington, DC. OHR provided the following information: Steele told OHR he was concerned about receiving a letter from Steele also expressed OHR thatl staff, and was in contact with Steele. an attorney representing I lwas acting in an informal capacity with Senator Mark Warner's n: l.4{b) but Steele must protect the sources and methods used to collect Steele noted since he resided in in'i'eingziIion on File O3f27 in Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} Date drafted by 04f03f2DlT b6 b6 b6 h3 h6 This document ennmins neither i'eeminnendmimis ne-i' conclusions of lime FBI. [1 is the pmpeny (if the FBI and is leaned In agency5489 10 be nulside 3min agency. Interview of Bruce 0hr 2T I :1 March?2017 FD- 20? 1301513 mites?Harn-gdem?i =33 written questions from investigators b3 Eggs-WW b7E 03f2T KZUIT L3 2 of 2 55$ng b1 b3 be -1 of 6- rtJ-sug ?ies: S-R-IU) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dntcofentry UlfleZUlB b6 was interviewed by Special Agent I b7: I and Assistant Special Counsel I Forensic Accountantl Andrew Goldstein atl Washington, DCI [was accompanied by] I Ifroml I After being advised of the identity of the interviewing officials and the nature of the interview, the following information12f18f2017 EH Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b7C b?E Hb? I Dmemmkd l2leK2DlT SA b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJKOIP b5 per DOJKOIP This docmueut contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnopeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. I I 156 (Rm: Interview I .On 12f18f201T .Hmc 2 Of 6 b5 per DOJKOIP 136 I b5 per DOJIOIP 136 137?: I I b5 per DOJXGIP b6 b5 per 23c b5 per 1:6 137:? I b5 per DOJIOIP be I 1370 b6 b7C 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Hm I Interview I .On 12f18f201T .Hmc per DOJKOIP 1 136 I370. I b5 per DOJKOIP l?b? I b5 per DOJXOIP per DOJKOIP I I BS per DOJIOIP 1&7 DOJXOIP b6 FD-SHEH (Rm: I b6 Interview Ofl I 12,!181201per DOJIOIP h6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b?C 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Interview Ofl I 12,!181201per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per b6 h?C I 156 (Rm: Interview Ofl I .On 12f18f201T .Hmc 6 Of 6 b5 per DOJKOIP I36 b5 per DOJIOIP 235 b5 per DOJIOIP I I ma 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION On Henry Oknyansky, aka Henry Greenber security account numberI I Assistant Special Counsel (ABC) Aaron Zelinsky and Special Agentl I Date of entry tens!? 3 12f1712018 date of birth spoke with b6 1371?. I Ivia telephone multiple times over the course of the day. After being advised of the identities of the those on the phone call, Oknyansky provided the following information: b5 per DOJIOIP 155 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 frette- b6 lm'esiigutionon 07f10f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} 137C h?E File?f Datedm?ed 12fl2f2018 by This deemnent eentnins neither nor conclusions eflne FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl?l}' of the FBI and is leaned to year agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutside your agency. 1 Of 1 Dnteefentn? Olf19f2018 lwas interviewed atl I b5 After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents] andl I the nature of the interview, provided the following information: 131E United States (In Person} b6 01f11f2018 in lni'esiiguiion on Date drafted 5 2 018 13TH. th 1371?. File by This deeument eenmins neither nor conclusions eflhe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to year agency: it and its ee-ntenls are net 10 be distribulcd e-ulside your agency. 1 Of 1 Dwedewn' Ulf29f2018 I Iwas interviewed at I I IAfter being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agentl land the nature of the provided the following information: lme??anml le24f2018 in United States (In Person} File DEIIC dl'EI?This deeuntent neither I'CCOl?nl?t?tCl?td?liOl?tS sue-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutstde your agency. b6 b7E b6 1373!. EH: r?o-sngtucvs-n-to) 1 Of 8 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION set-ho? i-h'r ?xerox-tr- -: On l2fllf2018, Itelephone number interviewed atl and FBI Special Agentl any time. During the interview! information: Date 01f 15x2 0 9 was b6 b7: Present for the interview were FBI Special Agentl Iwas advised the interview was entirely voluntar and that he could discontinue it at further advised that intentionally providing false statements to FBI Agents was a violation of federal law. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the purpose of the the following b6 I lwas advised thatl I provided a copy ofl ch tol lafterl lsaid he was not aware of it. b6 b6 b6 b6 Hose? lm'estigationon 12f11f2018 at New York, New York United States {In Person) File I Date dra?cd b6 12f13f2018 This docmnent contains neither nor conclusions oftne FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 Fo-snza (Rev. 05-03-10} 3375'- Interview .On 12f11f2018 .Hmc b7: Roger Stone b6 b6 b6 b6 shown a 7f25/2016 Sat 12:2? ET email which was about qettino to the Ecuadorian Embassy. b6 (Rm: Interview of h2fll CommunionuFFD-??luf ?(2018 .On 12f11f2018 .F?ngc 3 Of 8 b6 b7: b6 136 ?373 b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 Referring back to the Ecuador email, Iwas not aware of any action :3 Stone may have taken b6 b6 (Rev. (UffFeH-e-h- Interview of 12,511 CommunionuFFD-??luf ?(2018 .On 12f11f2018 .F?ngc 4 Of 8 Jerome Corsi b6 136 1371?. 13:6 1376. b6 b6 b6 b6 (Rm: Interview of @2511 Communion 0F (if 2 1 8 On 1321112018 mgr136 15715:. b6 b6 13:6 1376. b6 FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} 137: Interview of 12,511 CommunionuFFD-??luf ?(2018 .On 12f11f2018 .F?ngc 13:6 1376. b6 b6 (Rm: na-nH-m} Interview of 12,511 CommunionuFFD-??luf ?(2018 .On 12f11f2018 .F?ngc Of 8 b6 b6 Advanced Knowledge 136 1371!. b6 137C b6 13:6 1376. b6 b7: I36 137:! b6 (Rev. Interview of 12,511 CommunionuFFD-??luf ?(2018 .On 12f11f2018 .F?ngc 8 Of 8 b6 b6 1 Of 1 UNCLASSI FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 09f12f2017 On August 16, 2017, work addressI I I hork telephone numbed I was interviewed at his place of work, I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the the following information: I but at the time of Paul b5 Manafort?s {Manafort} purchase I Ilooked through the purchasing documentation and could not recall anything about it. UNCLASS b6 lntest'tgutionott 08j16f2017 at United States (In :gc Filc? I I Date drafted 085223?2017 by This deeument contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. 278)? 55 13 - ism: 213-302 (Rev. S-R-HI) 1 Of 3 - Dnteefentn' 10f20f2017 (U) On 10f10f201? at approximately 11:00am Special AgentI I I Iand Intelligence AnalystI Iinterviewedl I be I I I New York. The interview was established through a voicemail left forI land a subsequent phone call. b6 (U) After having been advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent :3 . . . and Employeef and the nature of the interviewI provided the following information: Iasked how the FBI came to learnI sal Istated that the FBI determined it be through the course of their if it was b7: I ISAI insisted that the FBI learned ofI Ithrough the course of the investigation. (U) b6 (U PAGE through whomI Ihas provided ch Ifor manv vears I lfor (Uil IhasI I b6 provided by who has since leftI I lUflOf2017 at New York, United States {In Person, Phone) ESE: Filc? Date dra?ed by This decrement neither conclusions 0fthe [-81.11 is the pl?OpCl1}' 0F the Bi and is [mined te- eui' agency: it and its ee-ntents are net 10 be disttibutcd 0titstde3'0iti'ttg0110}; FBK 19W1 '55 16 (Rm: CommunionoFFD-??luf (U) Interview Of .011 2 of . Page 1. 1. (U) PAGE andI bnly typically communicate I I Iis familiar with PAGEI I Icould not recall I Ifurther recalled that PAGEI (U) According to the local paper and media accounts, PAGE had a small amount of foreign stock that PAGE sold h6 FD-fmza (Rm. ns-na-m} b7E Interview Of .On .Hmc Isays the company typicallyI I I IEmail communication is more varied;I I b6 I [Each communication b7C is determined if it is pertinent at the time.I Istates that he Imaintains I (U) PAGEI b6 b?C (U) b6 (U) At the conclusion of the interview, Istatedl I I [He further stated that he questioned SA 1 Of 1 Hooc- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ofentn- 03f06f2018 I Iwas contacted at mobile telephone number I After being advised of the offiC'al identity of the investigating agent and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b6 I Ipresently runsI I as come to knowI I I IA mutual friend of land I Ifirst introduced them, andI Iis scheduled to speak I had a telephone conversation the news of indictments of 13 Russians as part of a ?troll farm.?I I b6 reached out and insisted they speak via Whats?pp. In their subsequent that he wanted to speak to someone on the Special Counsel?s team regarding information he had. According he had ?direct information? that be wished to provide this to Special Counsel investigators face-to-face. frees- b3 on 02/!21f2018 at I United Stat?'85 {Phone} b6 b7: meg Date dra?cd O3f06f2018 b'ir'E by This docmnent contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnopetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 lg 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 03f06f2018 I was contacted at mobile telephone number :3 I lAfter being advised of the offic;al identity of the investigating agent and the nature of the interview! provided the following information: I Iis presently in] Ihad a follow? up WhatsApp conversation withl Iin which he stated he wished to remain anonymous. Idescribed the present political scene as Rather, Ireceived this information I I I b6 b'i'C that] I Gvorgv runs the business called Silk Road, Hess- on at United Stat?'85 {Phone} :2 met; Date draited O3f06f2018 b7C by This document contains neither reemmnendations nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the piepeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. (Rev. -l of l- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION was contacted at mobile telephone number Date of entry 05f2lf2018 After being advised of the official identity of the investigating agent and the nature of the interview, a text message she had just received from] provided the following information: texted the investigating agent earlier in the day to recount I the text message to the investigating agent, which read as {Start text:} {End text} on the telephone receiving the text message.[ I as well as some sort of deal (reported in the New York Timesl Istated) that a proposed missile sale to Ukraine from the U.S. hinged on halting cooperation with the Mueller investigation. {?686- lm'esiiguiion on 05f18f2018 Filc at IUnited States (Phone} Date dm?ed by 05f20f2018 This doeument contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pitopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency b7E - tame? nimgmm:seun 1 Of 2 - - t; FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dwedrmn' 08f23f2018 Iwas telephonically contacted at b5 provided the following information to the writer: b7: sentl Ia text message over the past weekend. I b6 Iexplained tol Ithat he wished to meet with the writer upon his returni Istated that had provided a few items to her and would supplement with additional details upon his return: b6 b6 b7: in contact with former President Bill Clinton. b6 lme??anml DTAO2K2018 in United States (Phon6} File?l I Date dra?ed OTXD3K2018 b6 bi?: bi h?E This decrement neither conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl?l}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agency. it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutstde your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 (Rm: Telephonic Interview of: CommunionMED-3020 on 7f2f2018 .On 07f02f2018 .F?ngc 2 Of 2 b6 137E E'D-Stil (Rev. 1 Of FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ofentn3f20f2018 at approximately 4:00 pm, SH and be attempted an interview of SAM PATTEN at his residence at ch After agents knocked, Iopened the door and informed agents that PATTEN was and would be home soon. Agents observed the home for approximately 2 hours and Patten was not seen. A3660- 03f20f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In PersonDate dm?cd If by This doeument contains neither nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned to }'ous' agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK lgC?U'l 1 Of 2 Date ofenzn- 05f02f2018 On April 25, 20l8, FBI Agents attemoted to locate and interview ate of birthl social securitv account numbe at the address of Upon arrival at the residence the Agents were met at the door by When asked whether or a telephone number fod Ishe invited the Agents into the home and calledl I lrelayed the same information to the Agents about whereabouts. ladvised they did not believe I ien :ed provided a cell phone number of I In _the Agents presencel provided her telephone number as lm'esiiguiionon 04/!25f2018 at United States {In Person) Wei-E I Date drafted by I This decrement contains neither i'eemmuendmiens sue-r conclusions eflhe FBI. [1 is the pmpeny of the FBI and is leaned Ic- yeus' agency. it and its eentenls are net distribulcd eulside your agency. FBK 3;.ng b6 (Rm: Attempt to locate and interview .On 04f25/2018 .Wmc 2 of 2 The Agents returned to the residence to meet withI I SA b5 land spoke withI hnguired as to b7: whether or not SA Ihad received a text message from him and SA relayed it was not received.I SAI Ithen inquired as to wherel Iwould be later that evenind.l .J The Agents the? bn theI I ha I Iaddress and identified itI I I IMultiple attempts to reachI Ivia phone numberl I including calls, voicemails, and texts, were all met with negative results. All calls were immediately sent to voicemail. b6 The Agents returned to theI address and again b7: spoke withI I Both relayed they had not seen that evening and could not provide any further information about his thatI I I land relayed that] [may have been interpreting the Agents attempted to reachl Ivia cell phone and advised that his phone had been turned off. A subsequent telephone attempt was made on the morning of April 26, 2018. The call was immediately sent to his voicemail. On April 30, 2018 at approximately 2:11 PM, SAI Itelephoned b6 I Iand spoke with [advised thatI ISAI Iagain relayed his intent to speak with agreed to relay that intent to (Rev. -l of l- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 06f20f2018 . . . b5 date of birth (DOB) soc1al security account number was interviewed at the Special Counsel?s Office on May ll, 2018 by Assistant Special Counsel Aaron Zelinsky and FBI Special Adentl resides at and his cellular telephone number is Iprovided the following information: b6 b6 STONE referred to DJT as ?the big guy.? b6 Isaidl I was a familiar name but provided no further information. but provided no further information. lntestigationon 05f11f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} . b6 .l I . 05f15f2018 I. 4?1: Dd?: dld?cd by I This docmnent contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oftne FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 nim2mm:ssun -1 of 14- Date of entry 3 On May T, 2018, FBI Special Agents be I located date of birth (DOB) I Isocial security account number (SEAN) at the address of New York, New York 10029. Upon arrival at the residence the Agents were met at the door by I date of birthl Isocial security h5 who also lives in the apartment. The Agents identified themselves and inquired as to whether or notl lwas home. Iconfirmed he was and invited the Agents into the apartment. I I SA [identified himself to land requested to speak with him. lagreed. SAI lremindedl I b5 I The concierge at the hotel Itold there was a problem with his reservation so he returned to New York. SA then relayed the continued interest in speaking with him about ROGER J. STONE and requested the Agents back to Washington D.C. for an interview with representatives of the Special Counsel's might as well" and was allowed to gather his personal belongings to travel to Washington, a bag and left the residence with the Agents. Prior to departing New York, b6 was reminded that accompanying the Agents to Washington was completely voluntary on his part and that he was not required to do so. In response to that, as transported in an FBI vehicle from his residence in New York b5 City to the Special Counsel?s Office in Washington, D.C. Transport b7: began at approximately 11:15 AM. Approximately one hour into the drive, [agreed to continue to Washington without those items. The Agents assuredl I 05f07f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 Rb? 05511/2013 ch by This document contains neither reentmuendations nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. (Rm: CommunionoFFD-??lof (U) Interview Ofl I .On 05f07f2018 Jung; 2 of 14 approximately 12:30 PM, the Agents stopped at a rest stop and Iwas provided with lunch. While at his home, and again during the transport to Washington, was reminded that the interest in speaking with him pertained to his interactions with ROGER J. STONE. STATEMENTS DURING TRANSPORT TO WASHINGTON several statements to the interviewing Agents during the the following information: I Icurrently has no relationship with Stone, and has not since b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 13:6 1376. b6 b7: b6 136 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview Of .011 05f07f2018 Jung; 3 of 14 b6 136 1371?. I36 137:! b6 13:6 1376. b6 b6 b6 b6 (Rm: (U) Interview Ofl .011 05f07f2018 Jung; 4 of 14 136 1371?. I36 137:! b6 The name Guceifer did not ring a bell with did not know Jerome Corsi. b6 b6 b7: b6 b6 b6 (Rm; [lS-lm-i?} 13?: Interview Of .On 05f07f2018 Jm? 5 of 14 b5 b7C INTERVIEW AT THE SPECIAL OFFICE [Agent note: The interview continued at the Special Counsel's Office, located at 395 Street SE, Washington, D.C. Present for the interview were ecial Agent I SAI gal b6 Senior Assistant Special Counsel Jeannie Rhee, FBI b7: Intelligence Analyst land FBI Staff Operations Specialist Iwas advised it is a crime to lie to the FBI in the course of an investigation, which he acknowledged b6 (Rm: (U) Interview I .On 05f07f2018 Jung b6 FD-fmza (Rm. {15-11240} (U) Interview Of .011 05f07f2018 Jung (Rm: Communion of of Early onyl lgoogled Stone and learned he was a campaign strategist. knew Stone was working on the Trump campaign early on. Stone was always on the phone with radio stations, talking about the could tell by the calls that Stone was pro?Republican and pro?Trump. Stone (U) Interview of .On Jung; 8 of 14 b6 1:h?C b6 (Rm. (U) Interview Of .011 05f07f2018 Jung; 9 of 14 b6 13:6 1376. b6 b6 b6 b6 136 1371?. b6 b6 b6 (Rm: (U) Interview Of .011 05f07f2018 Jungthought he may have heard the name Jerome er Jerry Cersif but he did not remember meeting him. I b6 b6 FD-fmza (Rm. ns-na-m} ch Interview Of .On .Hmc 11 Of 14 b6 was shown an email that dated from the email address to himself and the email address ldid not remember the email and thought the other person on the email may have been someone from did not know reviewed an email dated b6 I with subject line I did not know much about Podesta in general, but knew Stone was ?raging on Twitter" about him. thought b6 an email datedl I be with subject linel which contained Iinformation forl I b6 b6 b6 (Rm: CommunionoE?FD-??lof (U) Interview Of .011 05f07f2018 Jung; 12 of 14 1:6 11:76. b6 reviewed an email dated from I [with subject linel [said it b6 b6 b6 b6 136 1371?. l: had no indication anyone else was using his qmail account. 1:6 11:76. b6 b6 b6 (Rm. (U) Interview Of .011 05f07f2018 Jung13:6 1376. b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 (Rm: CommunionoFFD-??lof IUI Interview Of .011 05f07f2018 Jungdid not recall ever calling Michael Cohen. I I b6 I Ibut he offered to bring it to the investigators at a later dateJ I was shown a photo and did not recognize the individual in the b5 photo. [Agent note: The individual depicted in the photo was denoted as b7: Administrative: The interview notes and documents shown to will be maintained in the 1A section of the case file. Him2mm sou? -1 of 10- Dateofentry 08f2lf2018 I date of birth (DOBJI Isocial security account numbed Iwas interviewed at the Special Counsel's Office on May 8, 2018 by Assistant Special Counsel Aaron Zelinsky, FBI Special h? Agent? IandI hesides I I New York, New York 10029 and his cellular telephone number is] I IAfter being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: I aware of his meeting with the FBI he and the Special Counsel?s Office for this interviewJ was asked to think overnight and attempt to recall anything related to Michael Cohen (COHEN) calling his cell he first learned about COHEN calling his phone when he was questioned by the Special Counsel?s Office.I b6 b7C b6 b6 05f08f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} meg Date drafted 05f24f2018 b6 by This doeuntertt contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 (Rm: (U) Interview SIB Conlinuztlion c05f08f2018 2 of 10 I Iremembered hearing STONE discuss Wikileaksl STONE has a great relationship with Infowars and the host, Alex Jones STONE did interviews with Infowars (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview of Conlinuztlion c05f08f2018 3 of 10 not think STONE really supported Republican surprised to STONE spoke campaign every day. STONE participated in TRUMP Campaign for President. TRUMP until TRUMP became the learn STONE was part of the 2015 with TRUMP members of his daily conference calls with the campaign 136 leC (Rm: (U) Interview of on SIB Con?rmation MED-302 {2018 .On 05f08f2 018 .F?ngc 4 Of 10 136 I376. b6 b6 I36 137?: I36 137:: b6 b6 b6 (Rm. (U) Interview oonn SIB ConlimmlionMED-302M {2018* .On .F?ugc 5 of 10 I b6 [the news was reported about email having been hacked around October of 2016. b6 1:6 b7C b6 b6 b'?C b6 b6 b6 b6 (Rm: (U) Interview oonn SIB Con?rmation c-F {2018 .On 053? 08 f2 0 18 .F?ngc 1:6 1:70 b6 b?C b6 wagging-5547 136 leC 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview of on SIB CominumionMED-302M {2018* .On .F?ugc b7": b6 b7(: 1:16 b6 (Rm: (U) Interview Conlinuztlion cSTONE was always very complimentary of Donald J. Trump Jr. (TRUMP JR) b6 HR: b6 At approximately 12:41 his phone and provided the b6 following contact information from it: Roger Stone b6 b6 b7C b6 b6 would be able to provide further information believed to the interviewing Aqents.] b6 b6 FD-EEDEI (Rm. (U) Interview of on SIB Con?rmation MED-302 of {2018 .On 05f08f2 018 .F?ngc 9 Of 10 b6 b6 136 EN: 136 the interviewers to View several messages and email communications on his phone. Those included communications E: I SE took several photographs of the communications. Those photographs have been enclosed for the file as digital 1A attachments to this b6 b7": I b6 (Rm: I (U) Interview of on SIB ConlinuztlionoFFD-??lof ?2013* .1011 0550899018 .F?ngc 10 Of 10 306 provided the following contact information for himself: 136 he I had no memory of Steve BannonJr Paul Manafort, Eric Prince, or Rick Gates. a Consent to Search Computers Form ranting the FBI permission to search his iPhone. Upon further reflection, was concerned about photographs of a personal nature on the phone. revoked his consent for a complete search of the phone and subsequently b6 signed a Consent to Search Computers form granting the FBI ch permission to search the phone for everything with the exception of videos and photographs on the the password for his phone as also executed a Consent to Search Computers form for search of hisl [provided the password for his[ 136 h7E b6 b6 b6 (Rev. Dnteofentry (U) On 10f24f2018 Special Agents (SAJI I Iand Assistant Special Counsel (ASE) Aaron Zelinksy interviewed I Ivia telephone. Present with were his counsels, I IandI IASC Zelinksy admonished that the same guidelines from his prior interviews were in effect: must tell the truth, he is not a target of the investigation, and the interview is voluntary. After having been advised of the identities of the interviewing SAs, provided the following information: {Uil I IOREDICO was the back-channel between ROGER STONE and JULIAN ASSANGE I I the idea of a back?channel between STONE and HSSANGE surfaced.I IThere was speculation that the back-channel may have been CREDICOJ I {Uil I ISTONE went to testify in Congress and was later pressured to reveal who his back?channel was, I {Uil I lm'estigutionon 10f24f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} File 41.5 DEIIC dl'EI?This doeumeut contains neither reeonnuendutious nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not -1 of 3- Wit?E 137E distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 (Rm: b7E CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Telephone Interview Of .011 10f24f2018 .F?ngc (Rm. [us?nun} Telephone Interview Of .On 10f24f2018 ng 3 of 3 CREDICO was the "go between" STONE and ASSANGE. CREDICO the alleged back-Channel to ASSANGE assisting in DONALD J. Presidential victory (Rev. -1 of 6- Dwedewn' (U) On 05flT?f2018 Special Agents 135 and Assistant Special Counsel Aaron Zelinksy interviewed] I I I26 Federal Plaza, New York, NY. Also present at the interview werel Ilegal counsell andl ASC Zelinsky admonishedl that the interview was voluntary; it is a crime to lie to the and ABC Zelinksy requested discretion in not revealing the interview to the media. After having been advised the identity of the interviewing Special the following information: {Uil 1 b5 1 b6 {Utl b6 (U) b6 I tnyestigutionon 05f17f2018 at New York, New Yorkr United States {In Person2018 tr Date donned If b1; This doeument contains neither nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents tll'c not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 1 b6 (Rm: Interview Of .On .Hmc b7C (U) During candidacy, the relationship with STONE was volatile. STONE always talked about TRUMP and how STONE knew TRUMP would run and knew he would get elected. STONE was a close b6 advisor at the beginning of the campaign.I b7: I ISTONE had a close personal relationship with TRUMP. STONE said he had called TRUMPJ I (U) After STONE left the campaign he continued informally in the same b6 capacity. STONE would speak to TRUMP on the phone the b7: opinion STONE was not particularly involved in the campaign. {ml b6 {Uhl b6 b6 {Uil I b6 b7: I ISTONE was like TRUMP on his social media savvy. STONE knew how to direct broadcast information to circumvent the media and how to use it as a system to amplify a message. I b6 FD-fmza (Rm. ns-ns-in} bin: CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview Of .011 .F?ngc 3 Of 6 (U) b6 b7: {Uil b6 (U) b6 b7: (Unl b6 b7: {U?l b6 b7: (U) b6 b7: {Uhl b6 b6 (Rm: Interview Of .On .Hmc b7: {Uil b6 I I {U?l I 155 {U?l lassumed RANDY CREDICO was connection to WIKILEHKS. b5 {Uhl b7: b6 FD-fmza (Rm. {15-11240} 137:: (U) Interview Of .011 05f17f2018 5 of E- . Page b6 (U) I b6 b7: b6 b7?: I I {U)l b6 13:6 1376. (U) b6 b6 (Rm: Cmnmemn?FDJ?ld?iU} Interview Of .On .Hmc 6 Of 6 (U) STONE never spoke in substance about CREDICO, butl lthought any b6 communications with WIKILEBKS would have been through I ch {U?l Ihas had no contact with STONE 137E 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- llfl?lf2018 (U) On Special Roentl made telephonic contact withl land requested a voluntary interview. h6 b7C it would be beneficial to the Special Counsel's Office (ECU) to speak with (Uil b6 I {Uil b6 ?Hm-mimmn 05f04f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} b6 Rb? Dmemmkd 11514/2013 b7: by This deeument contains neither sue-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCi?l}' of the FBI and is leaned te- seus' agencydistributed eutstde your agency. FBK 3;.ng nimgmm:ssun '1 Of 3' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentt'y 05f11f2018 On 4/9/2018, SAI and DOJ Senior Financial Investigatorl h? I linterviewedl lat his home located at[ I I IWashington, DC 20001. After being advised of the identities of the and that lying to federal investigators was a criminal provided the following information: offense? Prior to the interviewer's googled b5 and observed information related to the Special Counsel Office's h?C on web presence. b6 b7C b6 b6 136 137': b6 h?C Initiallyl b6 lnyestigutionon qu09f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} 136 hi?: File 4'15 DEIIC dl'EI?Cd 04 f?gfz?l? by This doeument contains neither reemmueudations nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCi?l}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK lgC?U'l (Rev. 3 Interview Of I .On 04f09f2018 . Page 2of3 I lhad never heard of RICK GATES before name appeared in the news. heard of PAUL MANAFORT and recalled that at one point in timefl b7C b6 (Rm: Conlinuztlionc-FFD-B?lof (Him Interview 011 I .On 04f09f2018 .1?21gc 3 Of 3 b6 h?C 1:16 b6 b7: (Rev. term!? 3 -1 of 8- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentt'y 04 02 f2 0 8 telephone number home :2 address] [was interviewed ch on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, at the Special Counsel?s Office Present during the interview were] I Attorneys] (sml Senior Assistant Special Counsel Zainab AHMAD, and Senior Iandl Special Agent lSupervisory Special Agent 135 Per DOJXOIP Assistant Special Counsel Brandon VAN CRACK. :3 135 Per DOJKOIP b3 b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 on 01f30f2013 at b3 United States (In Person} b6 File I Date drafted 02501/2018 7 This doeuniertt contains neither recommendations nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pneperty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. (Rev. UNCLASSI FIEDW #3 .0n 01f3032013 2 of 3 . Page 1? 1:1:16 1:170 b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 ?b5 P?r Dower:- 1379; hi?: b3 b6 Proffer #3 0fl I .On OlfBOnglB .Wmc 3 Of 8 b5 Per DOJKGIP b3 b6 b7C 55 Per DOJXOIP b3 h? b5 Per DOJKOIP b3 b6 b?C b3 b6 (Rev. UNCLASSI Conlinuztlionc-FFD-B?lof (U3 fable, Eroffer #3 Of Du 01f30f2018 .1?21gc 4 Of 8 135 Per DOJKOIP 133 1:6 13'1?: b5 Per DOJIOIP l_ b3 b6 UNCLASSI b3 b6 (Rm: UNCLASSI Conlinuztlionc-FFD-B?lof (HEW Proffer #3 ofl I .On OlfBO?nglB .1?21gc 5 Of 8 I b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 I b5 Per DOJJGIP b3 b6 135 Per DOJKGIP b3 b6 h5 Per DOJKOIP I b3 1:6 1. EN: 135 Per DOJXOIP b3 136 137C bE Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 135 Per DOJKOIP I b3 b6 UNCLASSI b3 FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} 135 ME Communionarm-302m #3 .3le DD 01/30/2010 We 6 of 0 b5 Per 0051019 133 136 :55 Per DOJXOIP Per DOJKGIP b3 b6 D5 Per DOJKOIP b3 b6 13?: b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 b3 b6 Proffer #3 1% OlfBOnglB ng Of 8 55 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 h5 Per DOJKGIP b3 b6 ES Per DOJIOIP 1:3 b6 h?C b5 Per DOJKOIP I b3 b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b3 b6 (Rev. b3 b6 Conlinuztlionc-FFD-B?lof (UngaHei Proffer #3 Of Du 01f30f2018 .1?21gc 8 Of 8 b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 UNCLASSI 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dntcofentry 02f2lf2018 was interviewed on October 26, 201?. The interview was and documented in the referenced serials. Attached to this report are the notes and exhibits from the interview. 10f26f2017 at DC, Washington, United States {In PersonDate dm?cd by This doeunient contains neither nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK igC?U'l (Rev. b3 _b6 mm!? 3 -1 of 1- ?Ir: ,m AngC 'ngE EEC. FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ON '33-31-2020 Dnteofentn? 02f2lf2018 interviewed on November 9, 201?. The interview was documented in the referenced serials. Attached to this report are the notes and exhibits from the interview. on: l.4{b) Derived Securit b3 b6 . lm-c?igmionon at DC, Washington, United States {In Person} Filo Date drafted by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of me FBI. [1 is the pmpeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency5580 10 be disu-ibnled oulside 3min agency. -1 of l- rtJ-sng ?ies: S-R-IU) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dwedtmn' 12f11f2017 Richard Pinedo Ricky Pinedojyl was I after being advised of the and Prosecutor PINEDO provided the interviewed via telephonel identity of the interviewing Lawrence R. Atksinson and the nature of the interview, following information: 133 Per DOJKOIP b5 Pier DOJIOIP b6 135 Per DOJXCIIP 135 Per DOJKGIP 135 Per DOJKGIP b6 lntest'tgotionon 12f06f201? at United Stat?'85 {Phone} b7: . Fileii Date dra?ed 121'073?201? by This docmuertt contains neither nor conclusions ofthc FBI. [1 is the piopeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 roam, (Rev. 5-8-10) 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Doro ofcnu'y 05f23f2018 On Friday, Mav 4, 20l8,l Iinterviewed at her place of b5 em lo ment, After being advised of the identity of the interviewing parties and the nature of the the following information: 136 I I I36 117:: stated the name Lucicle Consultants did not sound familiar. 1:6 I . b6 who referred to Paul as described as very good customers who were always nice to deal with. UNCLASS fez-5'" lm'csiigoiion on 05f04f2018 at United States {In Person} Filcii DoIc dra?cd 05f09f2018 by This docmucut contains noithcr rcconnucndmious nor conclusions oflhc FBI. [1 is the pnopcny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agency: it and its contents are not to be distribulcd outside your agency. FBK lgC?U'l (Rev. -l of 4- ofentn- 05f16f2017 On May 10, 201?, FBI Special AgentI Iand FBI Special AgentI Iattempted to locate and interviewI I date of birth (Dos? I at the address ofI . b6 social security account numberI I IUpon arrival at the address, the b7c Agents spoke withI Iwho is the current resident at that address.I Iadvised thatI Iformerly resided with her at that address, but thatI Iwas now residing somewhere on I Ithen telephonedI Iand allowed to speak directly withI I Ithat the Agents wished to speak with her about an individual who she knew.I Iagreed to meet with the Agents near the intersection ofI IandI I At I Ireguest, SAI Isent her a text message in order to exchange contact information with her. During transit to the interview location, a telephone call fromI I I identified herself and advised that another individual, I was also present on the introduced himself b5 and stated thatI Ihad contacted him to ensure her safety in b7: meeting with the Agents. SAI Ithen relayed the Agents wished to speakI Iabout someone that she knew, and that she was not the subject of this interview. then stated that he understood, and relayed that he is currently employed atI I Ithen agreed to meet with the Agents at a coffee shop located inside theI . Inear the intersection of andI Iphone number isI I I date of birth I Isocial security account numbed Iwas interviewed at the be located at b7: Iwas advised that this interview was entirely voluntary and that the nature of the interview was to discuss someone who she knew. Iwas then shown a photograph of GEORGE 133 I36 titt-cstigzttiotton O5flUf20lT at United States {In Person} Filci? I I Date dra?cd 05fi3f2017? by This document contains neither conclusions oi'the FBI. [1 is the pnopetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng b3 (Rm: he Interview Of .On 05f1?f201? .Hmc 2 Of 4 PAPADOPOULOS, who she immediately recognized. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, b6 I Iprovided the following information: ldescribed PHPADOPOULOS as a nice guy, and that she believed he had previously spent a lot of time in London. b6 I Ihas known PHPADOPOULOS for approximately I years. She initially met PAPADOPOULOS through] I b6 named, I [has met with in person hG h7C b6 has difficulty trusting people, as she has been the b5 taken advantage of by many people h6 b3 FD-fmza (Rm. {15-11240} b6 h?E (U) Interview Of .011 05f10f2017 3 of 4 . Page b6 b6 b6 1:13 136 (Rm: (U) Interview Of .011 05f10f2017 4 of 4 . Page 136 HR: 136 hi?: 136 hi?: 136 HR: nimgmm:ssun '1 Of 9' Dwedrmn' I was interviewed at the Office of the Special b6 Counsel; Washington; D.C. Present for the interview were FBI Special b7: Agentsl and Special Counsel Attorney Andrew Weissmann. Also present were] with the law firm After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, the following information: :1 b5 Per DOJIOIP be 1217:! l:l DE Per DOJIOIP b6 135 Per DOJKOIP b6 135 Per DOJKGIP b6 I 135 Per DOJKOIP b6 b'i'C lmesiigutionon 01f08f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} Hb?l I 01513/2013 b6 m-I This document contains neither nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the ptopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. Communion 0F (if (U) I Interview Per DOJIOIP b6 b7C b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJXOIP b6 D5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview Ofl 01x08x2018 .F?ngc 3 Of 9 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP I b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 55 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per b6 b5 Per DDJIOIP I b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJJOIP b6 Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of 4 of 9 b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP DOJKOIP b6 DOJIOIP b6 DOJKOIP b6 DOJIOIP b6 DOJIOIP b6 DOJKOIP b6 DOJIOIP b6 DOJIOIP DOJKOIP b6 b6 FD-fmza (Rm. {15-11240} 137:: Interview Ofl I .On 01f08f2018 .Hmc 5 Of 9 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b5 Per b6 b5 Per DOJXOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP 136 135 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP be b5 Per DDJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJJOIP I b6 b7: b5 Per DOJXOIP b6 b5 Per DOJXGIP I b6 b7: I I b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 (Rm: I CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview Ofl b6 .On 01f08f2018 _mPer DOJKOIP b6 b7C b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 1:5 Per be b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b7c h5 Per DOJJQIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP f"'1 b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of .On b6 .1?ngc l? Of 9 b5 Per DOJXOIP b6 I LE Per DOJKOIP b6 n5 Per DOJXOIP b6 hs Per b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DGJXOIP b6 b7: b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per I b6 I CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview .On 01f08f2018 _m?c 8 of 9 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 92: DOJIOIP Per DOJIOIP I b6 1 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 I I him. h5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b7C b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP be b5 Per DOJKOIP h6 b7C b6 b7C b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b1: Interview Of .On 01f03f2018 9 of 9 ng 135 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 I I b5 Per Dower? 136 [El 135 Per DOJJOIP be l?l 1:71: b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 135 Per DOJXOIP b6 (Rev. -1 of 4- was interviewed at the Special Counsel?s Office be I lwas located at Patriots Plaza I, 395 Street SW, accompanied bv her attornevsl Dntcofentry Ulf28f2019 Washington, DC. Iof Special Agen? Prior to the start of the interview, terms of a letter setting forth the agreement upon which made b3 herself available for the interview. 5 terms of the letter agreement. being advised of the identities of the interview team and the nature of provided the following information: the interview, I [was shown a document produced [Present for the interview were [Intelligence and Assistant Special Counsel Haron Zelinsky. ASC Zelinsky verballv reviewed the b6 ated that she understood the signed the letter. After llf15f2018 at b6 United States (In Person} File Dmemmkd 11527/2018 b7E by This doeument eontuins neither reeonmtendotions nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the piopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 (Rm: (U) Interview Of .011 11515/2013 2 of 4 . Page 136 b6 FD-fmza (Rm. {15-11240} Interview Of .On 11515/2013 tenatds to the text Rates stemmed b3 b6 b7: In reqards to the textl [Bates stamped In thinking about the 2 text messages, Bates stamped 133? b6 b3 b6 b6 (Rm: CommunionoE?FD-??lof (U) Interview Of .011 11515/2013 b?C Administrative: The agent notes and documents shown to will be maintained in the 1A b3 section of the case file. b5 b7C sen? -1 of 10- ofentn- 07f06f2018 IDENTITY hereinafter date of birth Isocial security account number cellular telephone number I I currentlv residing at Iwas interviewed at his residence. The SOURCE indicatedI I I I Throughout the interview, the SOURCEI I r. I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, SOURCE provided the following information: 043:2qung at I IUnited States {In Rb? I I 04524/2013 by SA I I This decwnient neither conclusions eftnc FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mur agency: it and its contents are net b6 137C b6 b6 136 137C b6 to be distributed FBK 19ml 278} 5665 I b6 [FD-3am (Rm: (U) Interview of! Communion of of (PROTECT I DENTITY) .On 04 K251 f2 0 18 .F?ugc 2 of 10 b6 I [Administrative Note: Several minutes into the interview, I The interviewing Rgents requested the interview with SOURCE remain private, and participate at that time. SOURCE acknowledged they understood, not to participate or be present for the interview.] The SOURCE advised The SOURCE stated he has never broken a U.S. law, and he believes very strongly in ethics and values; which, he advised was the single reason he chose to speak with the FBI. He recently engaged in a conversation with I Iwho asked him whether he, "always did the right thing." The SOURCE internalized the question, and later decided he should provide information he possessed to the FBI, in the event it was relevant to an investigation. b6 b6 b6 (Rev. (U) Interview of[ I (PROTECT IDENTITY) Cominumion c-F 3 1 . Page b6 137C 136 1371] b6 b6 FD-3i32il (Rm: I 137E (U) Interview ofl (PROTECT IDENTITY) .On Cominumion c-F 4 1 . Page b6 137C b6 3:36 136 EN: 1375* 136 FIFE b6 137:: 1:73 b7F 5 of 10 (Rev. (U) Interview of[ (PROTECT IDENTITY) .On Conlimmlion c-F of .F?ngc b5 b6 b5 b6 b7]? b6 I b7C FD-NFZH (REY. {35433-10} b7}: I (U) Interview ofl (PROTECT IDENTITY) .On Cominumion c-F E- 1 . Page 1:36 1:176. b6 b6 b6 I b6 b7: (REY. I (U) Interview ofl (PROTECT IDENTITY) .On Conlimmlion c-F of 7' 1 . Page b6 b6 b6 I b6 137': 137D I 8 of 10 (Rm: (U) Interview ofl (PROTECT IDENTITY) .On Cominumion c-F 3:ch b6 b7: b6 b6 b7: b7: FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} I I 1311-" (U) Interview ofl I (PROTECT IDENTITY) .On Communion of 9 . Page b6 b7!) b6 137:! i371] b5 b6 b6 [Administrative Note: At 6:06 PM on the date of the above documented interview, the SOURCE sent writer a text message [from cellular telephone ha b7F number stating the following: I b6 (Rm: I I 137E (U) Interview of[ I b7F Communion of (PROTECT I DENTITY3:ch 1 0 1 0 At 6:10 PM (same day) writer responded with the following: ?Thank you and we really appreciate the time you took to speak with us today. Best to you as well.? No further contact has been made with the -l of 5- ?3 E'D-Siil (Rev. 08f20f2018 I Idate of birth Isocial security b5 137C account number (SSANDI lhome addressl I I Itelephone numberI Iwas interviewed at the Special Counsel?s Office located at Patriots Plaza I, 395 Street SW, Washington, D.C. The interviewing team consisted of FBI Special Agent I IIntelligence AnalystI land Assistant Special Counsel Aaron Zelinsky. 155 per DOJIOIP b6 h?D b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b7F llii'CSIigJIIiOlIOl] qu26f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} by I This doetintent contains neither nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 "rm. (Rm(U) Interview of DQKEE Cominumion c.F?ugc per DOJKOIP b6 b7F b5 per DOJIOIP 136 b?F 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview of Conlinuztlion c-F FDDQKEE _On 04f26f2018 3 Of 5 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 h?D b7F b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b7D b5 per DOJKOIP h? h?D h7F b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7D b5 per b6 b7D (U) Interview of! Conlinuztlion c-F FDDQKEE .On O4f26f2018 4 of 5 b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 ES per DOJIOIP b6 h?C b7F b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b?C b5 per DOJKOIP per h?C b?F DOJKOIP h? b7F DOJKOIP DOJIOIP b6 b7D b?F b6 190-302;. (Rm; b7: (U) Interview of DIIKEE Cominumion c.F?ugc 5 of 5 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 3 1 Of 2 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentt'y 07f12f2018 On Tuesday, July 3, cellular telephone b5 interview telephonically by Senior Assistant Special Counsel Greg D. Andres and Senior Financial Investigator I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the the following information: By way of background,[ [works with political b5 candidates to[ In or around[ [started doing work for Paul Manafort and the b5 I [in Ukraine. At the time,[ [was working as[ ch Manafort as a demanding yet brilliant campaign strategist; h5 however, he was not a good guy or a fun guy to work Manafort was a very smart political operative who was able to achieve what no Ukrainian could achieve. While Manafort brought discipline to the campaigns, none of the other peoplefcompanies doing work for Manafort knew what the others were doing. worked on[ I be [He estimated he made[ [trips to the Ukraine during this time period. I [while in Ukraine and worked directly with be I I 137?: Manafort wantedI in advance. On occasion, [would meet ManafortI I I [to get Manafort?s approval or more often disapproval. UNCLASS I?m-s- lntesiiguiionon 07f03f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} I I . . 6 File ['15 dl"l?This doetintent contains neither nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng (Rev. CominuztlionoFFD-??zof (HEX-17351 3: 2013 .011 07f03f2018 me 2 of 2 Manafort called everyone by their initials and everyone called Manafort PM andfor PJM. For example, Manafort would refer to President Viktor Yanukovych as meeting Itimes during planned photo? shoots. I is familiar with Rinat Akhmetov, aka During one of his trips to Ukraine, Manafortl I recalled waiting Eor hours and never meeting with Akhmetov. did not have much interaction with Konstantin Kilimnik, aka He recalled Kilimnik was always with Manafort him as Manafort?s fixer. had more contact with Rick Gates, aka and described Gates as Manafort?s quasi-campaign manager in Ukraine for the Party of Regions. Gates was also in charge of approving and arranging all flights to Ukraine. Gates wouldn't act independently of Manafort. I Irecalled sending invoices to Gates and never getting paid on time. In fact,I I was unaware how Manafort was getting paid by the Ukrainians. Other individuals who did work for Manafort in Ukraine were and Tony Fabrizio and did not have much interaction with the agreed to copy from his laptop all documents relating land furnish to the Office of the Special Counsel137:! 1:6 '1 Of 5' Datcofentry llfUleUl? DOCUMENT RESTRICTED TO CASE PARTICIPANTS This document contains information that is restricted to case participants. previously identified, was interviewed by FBI Special Agentl land Special Counsel Prosecutor Andrew he Weissmann. Present during the interview were counsel I I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the provided the following information: b6 I Istated that PDG's ultimately client was the government of Ukraine. PDG's interaction with their client, the government of Ukraine, had been through Rick Gates I In many ways, Gates was client. no indication that Gates was directed by the he ECFMU. Gates was directed by Kiev. not sure exactly who within the Ukrainian government directed Gates. Whatever the ECFMU was, it was "irrelevant" as Gates was the important figure for PDG and Gates was directed by Kiev. Gates to be a political consultant for The question of who controlled the ECFMU was "irrelevant". PDG's contract may have been technically with the EGPMU. not sure, but assumed PDG received payment from the EGFMU. Other than those two functions, namely signing a contract and sending payment, the EGPMU did not have any other role aware of. Gates was the point of contact. Gates gave the instructions. no b6 indication that the ECPMU was the source of any instructions for PDG. ?neg-Igmionon 09f25f2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 h?C b7E File ii Date dra?This contains neither reconmtendutious nor conclusions ofthc FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng 12 I 136 (Rm: (U) follow up interview .011 09f25f201? .F?ngc 2 Of 5 1:6 I 1.17:: b6 b6 the early meeting with Gates in which Gates talked h?c about creating the ECFMU. I b6 h?C b6 b?C I 136 FD-fmza (Rm; ns-na-m} 137;: b7E Communion of (U) follow up interview .On 01? .F?ngc 3 Of 5 I 136 I One indication of whether the ECFMU was a front for the Ukrainian government would have been where the funding came from. 136 I [also toldl Iif PDG was going to register under LDA using the ECFMU as the client, they needed to be confident that the ECFMU was an independent entity and not a front for the government of Ukraine. I lwas aware that an LDA filing needed to list any affiliated organizations. Iwas not sure if funding information was needed b6 for an LDA. h?c "gossip" about a letter written by an attorney at Skaddenf but he never saw the letter. heard about an attestation letter written by the ECFMU, but he did not hear about this until much later when he read about it in the newspaper. b6 never seen the attestation letter. b7: for this matter. At some point, Gates] 1:16 1:16 (Rm: 13w: of (U) I I follow up interview .On 09f25f201? .F?ngc 4 Of 5 b6 b7C was asked how much time he recalled being spent on the topic of the ECFMU at the meeting. I [recalled it was a minor point in the meeting and not an important issue. I Irecalled being surprised when Gates brought up the idea of an NGO and the concept of LDA. I Idid not think] Iwas in the meeting with Gates. I Idid not recallI Iasking questions during the meeting. b6 b?C A major topic during the meeting was the jailing of Yulia Tymoshenko. This issue was specific to the Ukrainian government and was one of the reasons the Ukrainian government had credibility issues around the world. Gates wanted PDG to persuade US government officials that Tymoshenko deserved to be in prison. Had the EGFMU truly been an independent NGO in favor of Ukraine's integration into the European Union, they would likely have pushed back against the Ukrainian government on the Tymoshenko issue. It is always awkward for PBS to try and give clients advice contrary to their agendas. In this particular case, the ECFMU was not independent and did not have the influence to persuade the Ukrainian government. If the ECFMU had been a stand?alone NGO, it would not be unreasonable to assume they would have pushed back against the Ukrainian government on the Tymoshenko issue. This topic never came up because the EGFMU was "irrelevant". read the Skadden Report issued on the topic of the b5 Tymoshenko imprisonment. heard of the report and believed b?c Gates, or the Ukrainian government, or the ECFMU had hired Skadden to write a report justifying the matter. I Iheard Gates was dissatisfied with the re ort.I Idid not think the report was ever disseminated. believed he heard about Gates' disappointment from In general, I h? b7C I b6 FD-fmza (Rm. ns-na-m} 137;: Ifollow up interview .On 09f25f201? .Hmc 5 Of 5 b6 h?C In August 2016, there was negative press attention related to b6 Gates, Manafort and the Ukrainian government. I I b7: Since that time, he had not spoken with anyone at PDG about this issue. b6 b6 b7C b6 (Rev. 1 Of 2 Dnteofentry I date of birthl social securit account numberl lwas interviewed over the telephone Present during the interview from the Special Counsel?s Office were FBI Special Agentl IFBI Supervisory Intelligence Analyst I land FBI Intelligence Analyst was advised the nature of the interview pertained to his interactions with Roger Stone in After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b6 conversations with Stone. He surmised they happened sometime back inl Ihad learned b5 abou? I b7: [contacted Stone to see if thought Stone was helping out with the campaign at the time and] b6 b6 [remembered hearing Stone speak on a local radio station id Ibut did not know if Stone was still doing those shows. 12f14f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone2019 it Date diu?cd If by This doeunieut contains neither reeonnuendtititms nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the ptepeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 I 7? b6 (Rm: (U) Interview of on 12f14 Cominumion of gr ?(2018 .On 12;? 14 f2 0 18 .F?ugc 2 of 2 I Inever met Stone in person. be IThat was the last time I Fommunicated with Stone. viewed his interactions with Stone as being insignificant and b5 therefore did not remember the details about much of what they had discussed. nimgmm:oeuu '1 Of 6' Dnteofentry 02f05f2018 I previously identified, was interviewed by FBI Special Agent b5 Iand Special Counsel Prosecutor Greg Andres pursuant to a Proffer Agreement. Present during the interview was counsel for I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the the following informationb7: lm'estigutionon 12f14f201? at (In Personl2lef2DlT Hle I: Date dnu?cd 13.10 by I h7E This deeumeut eontuins neither reeonnuendutious nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the peopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents tll'c not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 (Rm: Communionni?FD-??lnf (U) Proffer 2 .On 12f14f2017 2 of E- . Page b6 b6 b?C b7D b6 Statement 1 hE b6 Statement 2 b6 Statement 3 b6 b6 Fn-mza (Rm. [us?nun} 57: 1371.1 I lPreffer 2 .On 12f14f201T .Hmc 3 Of 6 Statement 4 b6 Statement 5 b6 hE b6 b6 Statement 6 b6 b6 (Rm: Preffer 2 .On 12f14f201T .Hmc 4 Of 6 b6 b6 b?D Statement b6 b6 Statement 8 b6 b6 hE FD-fmza (Rm. {15-11240} Preffer 2 .On 12f14f201T .Hmc 5 Of 6 b6 b6 Statement 9 b6 b6 Other b6 b6 b6 (Rm: CommunionuFFD-??luf (Ul'l lPraffer 2 .On lzfl?leOlT .F?ngc 6 Of '5 hi5 b6 136 137?: b6 b6 1 Of 2 Dateofentry' 07f11f2018 I [previously identified, was interviewed by FBI Special b5 Agentl land Special Counsel Prosecutor Greg b7: . . . Andres. Present during the interview were counsel I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the the follow1ng informationper DOJXOIP b6 b7C b?D 1:15 per DOJXOIP lntest'tgotionon 07f11f2018 at (In Person} b6 Filctf Date drafted 0751131018 h?C by b'i'E This deeumeut contains neither reeonnuendutious nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnopeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBI b6 (Rm: CommunionMED-3n: (if (U) I Follow Up .On 07fll?l2018 .F?ngc 2 Of 2 1 Of 1 UNCLASSI ?rst FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofenu'y 08f24f2017 On August 16, 2017, cellular telephone was interviewed telephonically. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b6 did not recall any business dealings with Paul Manafort (Manafort), b7: or the I UNCLASS ?rs-s? . . b6 lni'esligulion on 08/1 l?fg?ljl at United States {Phone} File if Date drafted 08 f22f201? by This doeumeut contains neither nor conclusions ofllie FBI. [1 is the piopeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agencydistribulcd outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng roan), (Rev. 1 Of 2 Dwedrmn' 10f29f2018 b6 (U) On 10f312018 Special Agents Assistant Special Counsel Aaron Zelinksy and Senior Assistant Special Counsel Andrew Goldstein interviewed MARGARET RATHER-KUNSTLER (KUNSTLER) at' I Ito the law offices and after being asked to leavel I interview room and after being advised of the identities of the interviewing Special Agents KUNSTLER provided the following information: b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b7C KUNSTLER did not ass that email to ASSANGE or WIKILERKS b5 per DOJIOIP b6 h?A b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 h?A b5 per b6 lme??anml 10f03f2018 in United States {In Person) b6 ?kg Dmemmkd 10f10f2018 This doeunterat contains neither nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the ptopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. (Rm: 20f2 (U) Interview Of Margaret Kunstler .011 10503/2013 12-5 per DOJIOIP . Page 1:36 ?15 per b6 E'D-Siil (Rev. -1 of 8- We? Date ofentn- llf20f2018 I b6 (U) On 11/06f2018 Special Agents (SAJI Intelligence Senior Assistant Special Counsel (SASC) Andrew Goldstein, and Assistant Special Counsels (ASE) Aaron Zelinsky and L. Rush Atkinson interviewed MARGARET RATNER KUNSTLER via telephone. attorneyJ was present with KUNSTLER on the call. After being advised of the ident;ty of the interviewing SAs and the nature of the interview, KUNSTLER provided the following information: b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7A b5 per DOJXGIP b6 11f06f2018 EH Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} b6 File Dmemmkd 11f?8f2018 by This contains neither recommendations nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. (Rm: (U) Telephone interview of Margaret ConlinuztlionuFFD-??luf Rather KUDStler . On llmamme We 2 of 3 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJXUIP b6 b5 per DOJXOIP h? b5 per. DOJXOIP I b6 I h5 per DOJXOIP b6 b7: (Rev. (U) Telephone interview of Margaret Cominuztlionc-FFD-??luf Rather KunStler .On 11f06f2018 135 per DOJXGIP b6 b7A 1 135 per DOJXGIP b6 b7A b?C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 I I h5 per b6 (Rm: (U) Telephone interview of Margaret CominumionMED-302M Rather Kunstler ?n 11f06f2018 per DDJIOIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per I126 lb7C h5 per DOJKOIP b6 1 b5 per DOJXOIP b6 (Rev. (U) Telephone interview of Margaret Kunstler .On 11f06/2018 .Wmc 5 Of 8 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP h6 b7C b5 per b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 Der DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 h?C (Rm: (U) Telephone interview of Margaret ConlinuztlionuFFD-??luf Rather KUDStler . On llmamme per DOJIOIP b6 b?A b7C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP h5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 (Rev. (U) Telephone interview of Margaret ConlinuztlionuFFD-??luf Rather KUDStler ?n 11f06f2018 .F?ngc l? Of 8 b5 per DOJKOIP h? h?C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per b6 (Rm: (U) Telephone interview of Margaret Cominuztlionc-FFD-??luf Rather KunStler .On 11f06f2018 of 8 b5 per DOJXGIP b6 h?C (Rev. -l of 2- more? 3 Dntcofentry? 12f01f2017 METROPOLITAN CLUB OF THE CITY OF WASHINGTON CLUB), telephone number I I email address] Iwork address Iwas interviewed by Special Agent land SAI lat his place of work. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and the nature of the the following information: Members of the METROPOLITAN CLUE had reciprocity at the METROPOLITAN CLUB OF NEW YORK, and vice versa. Members were not considered members at the others club, but could use its facilities. If someone was politically becoming a member of the METROPOLITAN CLUE was political suicide. Attaching oneself to the top one percent of the population was not beneficial to a political career. As such, the METROPOLITAN CLUB had very few members who were currently in politics, such as Senators or Congressmen. However, the METROPOLITAN CLUE had members who were former Senators or Congressmen since they were no longer politically active. The METROPOLITAN CLUB also had several Ambassadors that were members. The METROPOLITAN CLUE did not maintain guest records. METROPOLITAN CLUE members were free to bring whomever they wanted. The METROPOLITAN CLUB did not require members to provide guest names, even if guests were coming for a large party. The METROPOLITAN CLUE stressed privacy for its members, so it deliberately did not ask questions. METROPOLITAN CLUB members billed everything to their account. The METROPOLITAN CLUE retained Point?of?Sale (POS) records, For example, if a member had dinner one 1mcsiigutionon llf28f2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} Date drafted 11f23f201? by SA I This doeument contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agency: it and its contents are not File to be distribuled outside your agency b6 (Rm: b7E Interview Of .On 11f28f201T .Hmc 2 Of 2 evening, their would be a POS record for the dinner associated with the member's account. If a member brought guests to the dinner, the METROPOLITAN CLUB did not have a record of who the guests were. The following individuals were not members the METROPOLITAN CLUB: CHARLES BOYD, JEFF SESSIONS, and SIMES (First name not provided). h6 b7C :did not recall seeing SESSIONS at the METROPOLITAN CLUE. If b6 SESSIONS visited the METROPOLITAN CLUB as a guest of a member prior to b7C becoming the Attorney would not have noticed. REX TILLERSON at the METROPOLITAN CLUB a few times. I saw IVANRA TRUMP one time. TILLERSON and/or TRUMP were not members. b6 (Rev. -l of 7- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- llg?l?lf2017 On Wednesday, October 25, 20l7, was interviewed by Senior Assistant Special Counsel Andrew A. Weissmann, Assistant Special Counsel Brian M. Richardson and Deoartment of Justice Senior Financial Investigator] Representingl lwerel Iandl After being advised the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the the following information: ASC Richardson explained the interview was voluntary and b5 if at any time he wished to consult with his attorney?s he could do so. was also reminded he needed to be honest in answering the questions and that making false statements could constitute a federal crime. acknowledged that he understood and the interview commenced. h5 per b6 13'3?: I I 135 per DOJKOIP b6 135 per DOJKOIP be UNCLASS its-3 b6 tm-cstigutionon 10f25f2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} Filei.E I Date dra?ed 10f26f2017? by I This doeuntent contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the ptepeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 (Rev. b6 CominuztlionoFFD-??l m" (Uh October 25, 201? Du 10/25/2201? Jungper DGJXOIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b?C b5 per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b?C h5 per DOJKOIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJIOIP he b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b6 Cominuztlionc-FFD-B?lof (11/th59) - October 25, 201? lOf25/?201? wage 3 of 1' I I b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7: I I b5 per DOJIOIP b6 I: b7: b5 per DDJIOIP I h? I b5 per DOJIOIP I I b6 I DOJIOIP b5 per I I b5 per DOJXGIP be b5 per DOJKOIP ll be. (Rev. b6 b7C Cominuztlionc-FFD-B?lof I- October 25, 201? lOf25/?201? wage 4 of 1' b5 per DOJIOIP b5 hq per I b6 b5 per DOJKOIP be b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP I b6 b5 per DOJIOIP I b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b7C (Rm: b6 UNCLASSI Con?rmation of of (U/f October 25, 201per DOJKOIP b6 b'?C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per be 137': I b5 per DOJKOIP 1 b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per 91% be I 1370 (Rev. b6 Con?rmation of of (U/f October 25, 201T Du 10/25/2201? WC 60f? b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 we b5 per DOJIOIP b6 h?C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 I b5 per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b6 (Rm: UNCLASSI fib??- October 25? 201? .On 10f25f201T .Wmc Of I I b5 per DOJXGIP b6 b7: b5 per DOJIOIP 136 b5 per b6 b7!) I 135 per 1:16 b7C t?x L_tsse? nimgma:ssun 1 Of 2 - - :3 morass: [ass- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ofentn- 06f04f2018 On Friday, May 11, 2018,] 1:6 be: work addressl ltelephone numberl I email address appeared at the Eastern District of New York Federal Courthouse in Central Islip, NY in preparation for possible testimony at the trial of Paul Manafort (Manafort) Also present were Senior Assistant Special Counsel Andrew Weissmann and FBI Forensic Accountant furnished the following information: b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 155 per DOJIOIP b6 h?C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7C UNCLASS ?ns-5- 05f11f2018 at Central Islip, New York, United States (In Person2018 it Date dnu?ed If by I This deeuntent contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned to }'ous' agency: it and its eontents tll'c not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 1 FD-rmza (Rev. [15-03-1111 Con?rmation of of (Uth-E-S-j May 11, 2013 _On 05f11f2018 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJIOIP b5] Der DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b? b6 b5 per DOJIOIP 1 Of 2 UNCLASSI frus- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 06f12f2017 FEDERAL GRAND JURY MATERIAL - DISSEMINATE PURSUANT TO RULE Do not disseminate except as authorized by federal rule of criminal procedure On May 3, 201?, be lwas interviewed at I Also present during the interview was I 'Department of Justice Senior Financial Investigator. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b6 b6 - b6 CS liq! OH 1 hr}: meg Date drafted 05f31f2017' by This document contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the ptopetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency. it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 (Rev. c-F m" Interview of . On 05f03f201T not have any knowledge of Manafort?s finances, of his businesses. nor did Manafort advise h3 b6 b7C 1 Of 1 ofentn- 06f 19x2 0 l? (U) On or about 06/19/2017 sal Icalledl which is the number listedl [on the website for the Council on Foreign Relations SAI Ireachedl Iasked if the call was related to a background check, SA b6 I Iadvised that it was related to a different matter that he would b7: prefer to discuss would likely want to determine the purpose before agreeing to the interview.? land would be available for an interview in earlyl [also stated that he will call for more information once a date is established. lntest'tgutionon 06j19f2017 at United States (Prion-E} b3 b6 Filctf Date dm?cd 06f19f2017? by This deeument neither E'CCOl?nl?t?tCl?td?liOl?tS sac-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pmpeny cf the FBI and is leaned te- mur agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 (Rev. -1 of 3- 12f08f2017 of birth was interviewed at the coffee shop located at 1303 19th Street Northwest, Washington, D.C. address is lwas advised the nature of the interview pertained to an individual he knew named, JOSEPH MIFSUD. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: Iconfirmed he knew MIFSUD and stated he had surmised the interview likely pertained to his intent to provide the Agents with as much information as possible in order to best assist with the investigationJ MIFSUD as an academic who is affiliated with the LINK CAMPUS UNIVERSITY in Rome and the LONDON ACADEMY OF DIPLOMACY in the United Kingdom. In eitherl I Iwas then introduced to met with MIFSUD on an infrequent basis.l [estimated the two of them had approximatelyl I with one another tm-cstigutionon 11f16f2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} File Date drafted 11523/2017 by This docmuent contains neither nor conclusions ofthc FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 b6 b6 136 1370 b6 b6 137:! b3 b6 b3 (Rm: b6 Interview Of .On 11f16f201T .Hmc 2 Of 3 h6 [thought the conversation was odd but viewed it as just nonsense at the MIFSUD was linked to the labor party in Malta which he viewed as being an openly pro?Russian organization. knew MIFSUD was pro-Russian in his own views and provided the Ukraine as good example of a topic which MIFSUD was pro-Russian about. was not aware of the names GEORGE PAPRDOPOULOS or b5 did not recall having any discussions with MIFSUD about the Russians having "dirt" on HILLARY relayed he viewed SCOTTI as being and if MIFSUD had known such information he may not have shared it with SCOTTI was often reserved when speaking couched his answers around. MIFSUD had been running various academic institutions b5 in Slovenia since MIFSUD's subsequent arrival and ch establishment of an academic presence in London as being suspicious, as it came immediately following PUTIN's re-election in 2012. I lthen voiced his concerns about b5 b7: relayed that LONDON ACADEMY OF DIPLOMACY was generating an annual revenue of one million pounds per the amount as being substantially too large for an organization of its size. I lthen provided the Agents with be b6 b3 Fo-fmza (Rm. {15-11240} b6 137E CommunionoFFD-??luf (U) Interview Ofl I .On 11f16f2017' .F?ngc 3 Of 3 b6 b6 MIFSUD has extensive contacts in the Russian government. In October of 2017, MIFSUD traveled to Russia to arrange a summit between the Russian government and the Ring of Saudi the purpose of b5 the summit was to promote Russian and Saudi energy relations.l ch understood the meeting received media coverage and was not a secret. I understood MIFSUD to have conducted similar work in Dubai. to conduct a search for any relevant emails or documents be which could provide further information about MIFSUD. Subsequent to the interview, several follow?up emails communications are enclosed for the file as digital 1A attachments to this (Rev. -l of 2- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 07f20f2018 On May 11th 2018 12:00 PM, at ?was b6 interviewed by employees of the Special Counsel's Office. In attendance b7: were Attorney] Attorneyl I IFederal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent Federal Bureau of Investigation Management and Program and Special Counsel Httorney Jessica Romero. After being advised of the identity of the interview agents, and purpose of the interviewI stated the following: b5 per DOJIOIP hG h?C b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 D5f11f2018 at United States (In Person} b6 mi This contains neither nor conclusions FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed your agency. FBK 19W1 b5 FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} 1375 ng 2 Of 2 b5 per Comimmionarm-3mm IUterView 0f Du 05f11f2018 b6 b7C b5 per DOJIOIP 1 b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b7: b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJXGIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 E'D-Siil (Rev. 5-8-10) 1 Of 8 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dore ofenu'y 07f13f2018 On 5/?/2018, SH SH land Special Counsel b6 Prosecutor (SCP) Andrew Weissmann interviewed] I was represented by and Prior to the start of the interview, SCP Weissmann advised that the interview was voluntary. advised that b6 lying to federal investigators was a criminal offense. After being advised b?c of the above and the identities of the interviewing team, provided the following information: b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP 1:lm'esiiguiionon 05f07f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} meg I I Date drafted 05f11f2018 b6 b7: by I This doeumeut contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agency: it and its eontenls are not to be distribulcd outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng (Rev. b6 b?C b7E Interview of .On .Hmc 2 Of 8 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b?C b5 per b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7: b5 per b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 h5 per DOJXOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7: (Rm: b6 b?C h7E f2?18 _On Interview of .mmc 3 of 8 b5 per DOJIOIP per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJXOIP per DOJIOIP I b6 I b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJXUIP b6 b5 per I b5 per DOJIOIP b6 h?C b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per b6 b5 per DOJKOIP h? b6 b5 er DOJ b7: (Rev. b6 h?C Interview of f2?18 05mW2018 b7E img 4 Of 8 b5 per DOJKOIP b5 per DDJIOIP b5 b5 per DOJXUIP 1:70 b5 per DOJXOIP b5 per b6 b5 per DOJJOIP b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJXUIP h5 per b6 b5 per b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7: b5 per DOJKOIP b6 (Rm: b6 13'3?: Interview of ?2018 b7E 05mW2018 5 of a img b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP per DOJKOIP b5 per DOJIOIP p?r DOJXOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP ? b6 b5 per DDJXOIP b6 1:15 per I b6 b7: (Rev. b6 13'3?: UNCLASSI (Uf?feH94 Interview of f2?18 05mW2018 b7E img 6 Of 8 b5 per DOJIOIP 13:6 1376. b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per 1:16 137per DOJXOIP be we b5 b5 per DOJXOIP b7: b5 per DOJIOIP 136 Mr: b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP 1:16 137': b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per b6 (Rm: b6 Interview of ISKT ?2018 05mW2018 h?C b7E .1?ngc per DOJKOIP b6 h?C h6 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per b5 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 b6 h7C b5 per DOJXOIP b5 b5 per DOJKOIP I b5 per DOJIOIP 136 13-7-3 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP per DOJIOIP 136 h7C b5 per DOJKOIP ll be b7C (Rev. b6 b?C b7E Interview of .On .Hmc 8 Of 8 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 b7C b5 per DOJKOIP per DOJIOIP r1 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 E'D-Siil (Rev. -1 of 5- Dnteofentn? 12f04f2017 NOVARTIS FINANCE CORPORATION (NOVARTIS was interviewed by Special Agent IForensic Accountantl and Assistant Special Counsel Andrew Goldstein at Patriots Plaza I, 395 Street SW, Washington, DC accompanied by NOVARTIS CORPORATION outside counsell? IAfter being advised of the identity of the interviewing officials and the nature of the interview, provided b6 the following information: b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJIOIP 1:6 137': b5 per DOJKOIP h? b5 per DOJKOIP 6 b? 11f09f2017 EH Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} Hb? Dmemmkd llf2lf201? b6 by 39* This decrement contains neither nor conclusions eflhe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is leaned Ic- yeur agency. it and its eentenls are net 10 be distribulcd eulside your agency. (Rm: I Interview Ofl 11;?091201per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP h6 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 h7C 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b6 Communion 0F (if (U) Interview per DOJKOIP per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 DOJKOIP b6 b5 per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 (Rm: I Interview Ofl 11;?091201per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJKQIP b6 h5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b7C 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Interview Of[ Dr! 11;?091201per DOJKOIP h? b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 r?o-sugtum-o-R-ui} 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION was contacted atl Ion 8f24x?2017? by the 1'95 undersigned. provided the following information: him 136 131A 1370 b6 b6 . - 7 Phone 1m on 08/1 241K201 at I: Filcii Date dra?cd 09f08f2017? by This contains ncithcr rcconnumdutious nor conclusions ofthc FBI. [1 is the piopcny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 lg 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dnteofentry' 09f28f2017 I provided the following information to the writer on 9 b5 b're 13:6 1376. 13:6 1376. provided a business card which read as follows 136 1370 b6 b6 b6 File if Date dra?09/1 ELK-2017 at I I tEmail} by I This contains neither conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pneperty of the FBI and is leaned te- yeur agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 -1 of 2- (Rev. Dwedrmn' Olf19f2018 1 be I Ibusiness telephone numberl [business cellular telephone interviewed at his business. After being advised of identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the the following information: b6 I lwas unfamiliar with telephone number he received several telemarketing calls on his business cellular :3 . . telephone where the caller had a foreign sounding accent. Once identifies a call as being a telemarketing callJr or a possible scam, he discontinues the call. received calls to his business cellular telephone where the caller ID shows his own cellular telephone number as the number calling into this phone. b6 b7C b6 lme??anml 01f17f2018 in United States {In Person) Fileii I I Ski-2230634 thtedra?ed Olf18f2018 b6 by I I b7E This decmnent contains neither nor conclusions oftnc FBIleaned te- mus' agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed eutstde your agency. FBK 19W1 1 -ma. '2 b5 DJ drdt?d? ch (U) Interview Of .011 OlflT?lEOlB .F?ngc 2 Of 2 b6 Administrative Note: Interviewing Agent called telephone he from his Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) issued Samsung cellular telephone and it was answered by the receptionist at! I Interviewing Agent this occurrence. 1 Of 2 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dateofentry UElex?ZUl? This information is the property of the FBI and may be distributed to state, tribal, or local government law enforcement officials with a need?to?know. Further distribution without FBI authorization is prohibited. Precautions should be taken to ensure this information is stored andfor destroyed in a manner that precludes unauthorized access. were interviewed via telephone. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: Iwas recommended to PAUL MANAFORT (MANAFORT) by one ofl lclients. ldoes not recall who recommended his services to MANAFORT. MANAFORT was a strange guy who would regularly send texts complaining Most of the payments from MANAFORT came via wire transfers. The wires came in from different accounts. ldid not know anything about the accounts being used to pay I would email them to let them know when to expect a wire transfer to come in. 06107f2017 Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} Hb? Dmemmkd 06f07f201T by This document contains neither nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the poopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency b6 (Rm: Injerview of I CommunionMED-3020 am June 7! 201? .On .F?ngc 2 Of 2 mobile phone number is be (Rev. -l of 2- UNCLASSI foss- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentt'y 05f31f2018 PATIENT MEDICAL INFORMATION This document contains patient medical information protected under the Privacy Act or the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. Such information may be accessed and used only if necessary for the performance of one?s official duties and only to persons with a need-to-know. This information must be safeguarded and protected from inadvertent disclosure. On Friday, May 11, 2018, telephone b5 number: Iwas interviewed telephonically in preparation for possible testimony at the trial of Paul Manafort in July 2018. Also present during the interview were Senior Assistant Special Counsel Andrew Weissmann and FBI Forensic Accountant Ifurnished the following information: Most of the payments received from Paul Manafort {Manafort} forl I be Iwere sent via a wire transfer. Invoices and billing would have been handled by his bookkeeper, Ofl Iclients inl Ihe statedl b6 of them paid by wire transfer. lrecalled Manafort would let him know in advance when he was wiring money; however, Manafort never mentioned where the wires came from. b6 b6 b6 UNCLASS lntesiiguiionon 05/!11f2018 at United Stat?'85 {Phone} File b6 Dmemmkd 05522/2018 by This doeuntent contains neither reeonmiendntions nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the piopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng b6 FD-Tmza (Rex; 05?03-10} b7: Cominuztlion of May 1 1: 2018 .011 05f11f2 018 me 2 of 2 b6 NOTE b6 MEDICAL INFORMATION) . (Rev. -1 of 2- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry 05f11f2018 On Tuesday, April 24, 2018J b6 cellular telephone numberl appeared at I in preparation for possible testimony at the trial of Paul Manafort in July 2018. Also present were Senior Assistant Special Counsel Greg D. Andres and FBI Forensic Accountant the following information: b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b?C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 h?C b5 per DOJKOIP b3 h6 b7C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJXOIP h6 b7C h5 per UNCLASS lm'esiigttiion 04f24f2018 t; Date dlcl?Cd by This doeumeut contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the piepeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. (Rev. b6 Con?rmation of Z: :1 April 24, 2018 .On 04f24f2018 .Wmc 2 of 2 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJKOIP b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJIOIP b6 h5 per b6 137': b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 (R CY. S-R-IU) - 1 Of 3 - Dnteofentry llfUZx?ZUl? DOCUMENT RESTRICTED TO CASE PARTICIPANTS This document contains information that is restricted to case participants. I ldate of birth[ Isocial security account numberl lwas interviewed telephonically by FBI Special Agent I [and Special Counsel Prosecutor Kyle Freeney. Present on the phone with After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the the following information: advised that the interview was voluntary and if he chose to answer questions, he needed to be honest as lying to an FBI agent could constitute a federal crime. b6 h7C b6 b5 per DOJIOIP 1217:! LS per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 h?C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 lm'estigotion on File by 10f02f2017 in Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} Dmemmkd 10506/2017 This doeument contains neither reeonmtendutions nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. hE Communion 0F (if (U) Interview 10;?021201per DOJIOIP DOJIOIP DOJIOIP b6 DOJKOIP b6 DOJIOIP h? DOJKOIP DOJIOIP b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b6 Communion 0F 0F (U) Interview .On 10;?02f2017' my; 3 of 3 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJXGIP h6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJXGIP b6 -1 of 5- We? FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (Rev. Date ofentn- 09f27f2018 date of at the Office of the Special Counsel in Wa.hindton. DC. The interviewers were FBI Special Agentsl land and Special Counsel Prosecutors h? (SOP) Andrew Weissmann and Jeannie Rhee. Present I Prior to the start of the interview, SOP Weissmann reviewed the terms of a letter setting forth the agreement upon made himself available for interview. had signed the agreement on 05 f3lf20l8. SCP the agreement. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the the following information: b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7: b5 per b5 per DOJIOIP b6 I I 137:? b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP 136 155 per DOJIOIP b6 b7: 03f20f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 File I Date drafted 8 f2 3 If 2 0'18 b'i'ti?. '7 by This decrement neither sue-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCi?l}' of the FBI and is loaned to year agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed your agency. FBK 19W1 (Rev. b6 Interview f2?18 08f20f2018 img 2 Of 5 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJXGIP b6 b?C b6 b5 per DDJIOIP b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b?C b5 per DOJIOIP per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJIOIP b6 (Mame: Interview ofl: 3x20 ?2018 08f20f2018 img DOJKGIP DOJKOIP DOJIOIP DOJKOIP DOJIOIP DOJKOIP per DOJIOIP b6 h?C DOJIOIP DOJIOIP (Rev. Interview f2?18 08f20f2018 img DOJIOIP DOJXOIP DOJKOIP DOJXOIP DOJIOIP DOJKOIP DOJKOIP hG DOJXOIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJIOIP b5 per DDJIOIP I b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP (Rm: Interview ?2018 b6 08f20f2018 img 5 Of 5 b5 per DOJIOIP h6 b5 per DOJIOIP per DOJIOIP b5 per DOJKOIP b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 (Rev. teem} 3 -l of l- UNCLASSIFIEDUW FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentt'y 10f17f2018 b6 DOB: telephone numbers was interviewed telephonically. Present for the telephonic interview were Senior Assistant Special Counsel (SASC) Andrew Goldstein, Assistant Special Counsel (ABC) Aaron Zelinsky, and Special Agent After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: I I b5 per DOJIOIP per DOJIOIP hi3 b'i'C 136 HR: b5 Filer DoeruIP I b6 b6 ln't'csiigttiionon 10f11f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} b'i'C meg Dntedraited 10f16f2018 FIFE by This decrement neither reemmuendutious conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutstde your agency. (Rev. interview was voluntary, truthful. After having been advised of the identity of the interviewing the following information: llfOBfZUlB On 10f15f2018 at his office at nee to a request from the FBI for was admonished that the and that information provided to the SAS must be (U) did not expect for the FBI to call him {Ui on File 10f15f2018 lUnited States {In Person) 10f18f2018 by This contains neither nor conclusions FBIloaned Ic- agent)". it and its contents are mt to be distributed your agency. b6 1371?. I36 137:! b6 b6 b6 b6 (Rm: (U) Interview Of .011 10515/2013 2 of E- . Page b6 b6 b6 1 be 1:73 we I36 137:! b6 b6 b6 FD-fmza (Rm. b7: CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview Of .011 10f15f2018 .F?ngc (Ull b6 136 (U) biv'c (U) 136 (UJI b6 1371?. 136 (U) 137$ 1315 ll: (U) I b6 (Rm: CommunionoFFD-??lof (U) Interview Of .011 10515/2013 (U) Itoldl lhe was contacted to provide more information to b6 the FBI. b6 b7: b6 (UJI b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview Of .011 10515/2013 5 of E- . Page 1336 13TH. bill HRb7: (Rm: Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of . On lOfleEOlB (UJI b6 b6 b6 b7: b6 1 Of 2 UNCLASSI 7:113 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 05f31f2018 On May 24, 2018, lat 156 First Nationwide Title, social security account numberl ldate of birth Ibusiness address 50 Charles Lindbergh Blvd., Uniondale, New York, cellular telephone numberl Iwork telephone numberl Iwas telephonically interviewed in preparation for possible testimony at the trial of Paul Manafort in July 2018. Also present werel ICorporate Counsel at AmTrust Financial Company tAmTrust}, Assistant United States and FBI Forensic Hccountantl IAfter being advised of the identities of the interviewers, lprovided the following information: 135 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 135 Per DOJKOIP b3 b6 h?C memes Elas- ln't'csiigttiionon 05f24f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone2018 I I This decrement contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBI (19w12?8)?58?2 b6 FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} 3375'- ContinuationoFFD-Bnlof (Uff'h?a'? Interview .On 053(24/2018 .1?21gc 2 Of 2 b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 337:! 135 Per DOJKGIP b3 view} 3 -1 of l- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (Rev. Dnteofentry 08f17f2018 telephone was telephonically interviewed about information he wanted to provide to the Special Counsel's Office. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the the following information: Corey LEWANDOWSKI, former Campaign Manager to a US Presidential Campaign.[ The reasonl wanted to contact the FBI was to b6 h?C b6 lnyesiigutionon 02f23f2018 at District of Columbia, Washington, United States {Phone} b6 by This doeumeut contains neither reeonnuendmious nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agencydistribulcd outside your agency. FBK 19W1 nimgmm:ssun '1 Of 5' Date of entry date of security account numberI I was interviewed at the Special Counsel's Office located at 395 Street SW, Washington, DC 20024. Accompanying this interview was her attorney,I I Present from the Special Counsel?s Office were Senior Assistant Special Counsel Jeannie Rhee, FBI Assistant Special Counsel Lawrence Atkinson, ecial Agentl I FBI Supervisorv Intelligence FBI Intelligence Analyst I After being advised of the nature of the interview and the identities of the the following information: UQFOSEZUIB b6 h5 Per b6 HR: 135 Per DOJXCIIP b6 b5 as: 1:6 1:73 b?C b5 as} DOJIOIP h6 b7A at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} lm'cstigution on File if Date drafted by 04f08f2019 This docwment contains neither i'CCOl?nl?t?tCl'td?liOl?tS nor conclusions oftnc FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl?l}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 13732. I370. Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of 01f23f2018 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKGIP b6 b7C b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b6 Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of 01f23f2018 img 3 Of 5 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 h?C b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 h?C b5 Per DOJIOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of 01f23f2018 b7C img Per DOJXOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b6 Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of 01f23f2018 img 5 Of 5 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 h7A b7C -l of 3- UNCLASSIFIEDM FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (Rev. ofentt'y 11f13f2018 On ll/lX2DlB, SAI IandI IinterviewedI I date of birthI I cellular telephone number I I at his home at Also present for the interview was [gellphone number being advised of the ieentities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: I or around February of Imentioned toI that he had contact with PAUL MANAFORT.I Iwas present for the conversation and he had anI introducedI Ito MANAFORT. The day started I I ln't'csiigttiionon 11f01f2018 at New York, New York United States {In Person) Filed Date dra?This deeumeut contains neither reeonnuendutious nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnoperty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b7E team b6 FD-znza (Rev. r15-ns-1n} b7: (HIM Interview oonn 11 CommunionMED-3n: 0F flf2018 .On llfleEOlB .F?ngc 13:6 1376. b6 b6 (Rm: 137E (HIM Interview of Ion 11 CommunionuFFD-??luf flf2018 .On llfleEOlB .F?ngc 3 Of 3 136 HR: '1 Of 9' Dnteofentry Ulf30f2018 date of birth social security account b5 numbed lwas interviewed by FBI Special Rgentl land Special Counsel Prosecutor Greg Andres. Present during the interview were I and After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the interview, the following information: Background b6 b6 b6 Loan Process Rt BOC, loans are initiated by Relationship Managers, who generally work on the retail side. Relationship Managers generate loan leads from their client base and at times, are referred loan leads from "Centers of Influence", which are like brokers. The Relationship Manager sends a summary of the loan request and be any preliminary documentation they may have received regarding the b7: 12f07f2017 EH Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} Hb? Dmemmkd l2fllf201? b6 by This document contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnopeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 (Rm: Interview .On .Hmc 2 Of 9 borrower. If determines the loan has potential, he assigns it to be one of this Portfolio Managers and Credit (collectively, "the Underwriters"), who perform the underwriting of the loan. The Underwriters put together a "needs list" and provide it to the borrower via the Relationship Manager. When the Underwriters receive all of the documentation and information back from the borrower and have done their due diligence, the loan is "pre?screened? b5 If the loan exceeds $5 million, it has to b7: be reviewed by the Chief Credit Officer as well. provides approval to move forward with the loan and b5 provides any additional structures, terms, or requirements. Ultimately, ch when the loan is ready for approvalJ andl I in the process is to weed out loans that do not meet h5 criteria, pre-screen loans with] land make recommendations tol Ican deny loans from moving forward, but he does not do so often. Typically, ltries to find a way to restructure loans so they fit BOCs criteria. underwriting guidelines are determined by a Risk Management Committee. Exceptions to guidelines are allowed with mitigating circumstances. Post funding, loans are reviewed by the Credit Review Team to make sure they were in line with the guidelines. DTI and DSC Debt?to?income or Debt Service Coverage (BBC) is calculated by dividing the borrower's global income by their global debt obligations. BOC looks at a 5 year amortization of principal and interest when factoring new loan payments into the DTIXDSC, even if a loan is only a 1 year, interest only loan. For self employed borrowers, BOC looks at tax returns, from partnerships for which the borrower owns at least 20: and profit loss statements {PaLs) to determine income. BOC also looks at the liquidity of businesses if the borrower?s income is generated primarily by that business. However, the importance of this factor can be mitigated if the borrower has sufficient liquid assets. EOC looks at the borrower?s income and calculates DTIXDSC to determine if the borrower can repay the loan. Especially in the case of unsecured loans, BOC's primary source of repayment is the borrower?s business. The secondary source of repayment is the borrower andfor guarantor?s cash flow b6 FD-fmza (Rm. ns-na-m} ch Interview .On .Hmc 3 Of 9 and liquid assets. BOG requires a liquidity ratio of at least 1X the loan amount for guarantors. In the case of the loan to b5 b7: Debt for the ratio is determined by looking at the borrower's personal financial statement (PFS), credit report and business financial statements. The borrower is expected to disclose all debt obligations on their PFS. Borrower debt is relevant to BOC's underwriting decision because it factors into Generally, lconsiders it a red flag if a borrower has other b5 unsecured loans. ldoesn?t want the borrower to be a "slave to two masters", meaning if the borrower begins having financial problems, doesn't want the borrower having to choose who they are going to repay. does not necessarily consider it a red flag if non? borrower guarantors have other unsecured debt, however, it depends on the specific circumstances. PFS was shown Manafort's PFS which was submitted to BOG for an 55 unsecured line of credit. that the purpose of this b7: form was to gather information about the borrower to satisfy the bank?s Know Your Customer requirements as well as gather information about the loan requested, the borrower's income, assets, liabilities, net worth and liquidity. The borrower for the Manafort loan was and Manafort b5 wasl Manafort's was important to I [because it was a source of repayment on the loan. As such, Manafort?s other debts such as, mortgages and other loans were relevant to underwriting decision. BOG required Manafort to submit a schedule of real estate (RED) to see what other assets Manafort had and what other liabilities Manafort was responsible for. be running a property title search on one of the b5 properties listed on Manafort's RED: 1 b6 (Rm: 1117!: CommunionoFFD-??lof (U) Interview .On 12f07f2017 4 of 9 b6 b6 Another section of the PPS required Manafort to list a "Schedule of Expenses? related to other properties he owned, such as HOA fees, property taxes, insurance premiums and the like. Manafort's non-disclosure of mortgage debt and other expenses associated with his properties was relevant to BOC because these amounts factor into Manafort's debt calculations and therefore affect DTIXDSC. The section on the PFS for ?Contingent Liabilities? was where Manafort was supposed to list any other loans for which he was a borrower or guarantor. Since the loan to Manafort was an] I b6 The section requesting information on other "Partnerships, LLCs and Businesses Owned" of which Manafort was at least a owner was important to BOC's underwriting process because it related to the Manafort's cash flow and debt from any entities owned by Manafort. The section for "Other Debts" was where Manafort was required to list any other debts, loans andfor liabilities not disclosed elsewhere on the PFS. that this included margin lines of credit against b5 brokerage accounts and other personal or unsecured loans would be included in this section. reiterated that Manafort was expected to provide a global b5 picture of his assets and liabilities in an accurate and complete way. b7: was aware that borrowers tend to embellish or minimize aspects of their financial situation, for example, by overvaluing property they own. deemed this type of embellishment not that relevant as BOG :3 does their own value calculations for properties. the loan could be restructured or the asset dis ualified if it wasn't worth what the borrower claimed. However, knew that a borrower was deliberately falsifying information about their assets and liabilities, it would be a "full stop" not move the loan any further. b6 (Rm. {15-11240} bifc CommunionoFFD-??lof (U) Interview .On 12f07f2017 5 of 9 ng The borrower was required to sign the PPS to attest to the accuracy of the information provided therein. 2015 was shown the 2015 for provided in support of Manafort's b5 loan with BBC. I b7: BOG looks for upward, or downward trends of income and at an average of income over the past 3 years. BOG also looks at a borrower's prospects to make income in the future. b6 b6 Paul Manafort b6 I The in person meeting was to discuss the structure of the b7: loan Manafortl could not recall exactly when this meeting took place. During the meeting, Manafortl I b6 Istated that pre-construction costs were items like permits, plans, insurance and carrying costs on their purchase loans. b6 b6 (Rm: hnterview .On .Hmc 6 Of 9 understood Manafort's role as the financial backer behind the be real estate development business and not as a hands?on partner. It was b7: represented Manafort had ownership in the properties being developed and that hel to develop those properties. Manafort said little during the in person meeting and recalled having a conference call with Manafort when he the loan was coming due. The ur ose of the call was to discuss how BOG was going to be repaid. it was difficult to reach this time and even more so after this time. b6 During this conference callJr a restructure and repayment was suggested. After the call, Manafortl b5 b6 b6 b6 Other Loans b6 (Rm. 1117!: Conlinualionc-FFD-??laf (U) InterView i . Page b6 (Rm: Interview .On .Hmc Iwas shown the Credit Approval Memorandum (CAMIreviewed and Signed this document which was prepared by Credit Anaylst I Ihad prepared the previous CAM fod and Quick adjusted that CAM for I The section of the CAM titled "Financial Covenants" refered to requirements for the borrower to maintain a certain amount of liquid funds and global BBC. The borrower was required to show quarterly that they had maintained their financial covenants.I Ibelieved Manaford I ha The financial covenants required a global DSC of 1.25 times the loan amount and liquidity of 1.5 times the loan amount. If a borrower does not comply with the financial covenants, it is a technical default of the loan. That not think BOG ever he took collection action for this type of technical default. b7: believed BOG would instead refer the loan to the Special Assets Group for resolution. b6 Fo-Enza (Rm. ns-ns-m} b7: Interview .On .Hmc 9 Of 9 was asked about the section titled, "Guarantor Analysis" for b5 Paul Manafort. that Manafort?s analysis relied in part on his 2015 as a verification of cash flow and income. I b6 Business Loan Agreement shown Manafort's signed Business Loan Agreement. EEG was directed to the portion regarding "Loan Proceeds" which read, 5Use all Loan proceeds solely for Borrower's business operations, unless specifically consented to the contrary by Lender in writing." b6 b7: b6 1 Of 4 Date of entry I previously identified was interviewed by FBI Special Agent and Special Counsel Prosecutor Greg Andres. Present during the interview were counsel for After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the interview, provided the following informationPer 06f06f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} File ti Date drafted by 06f06f2018 This docmuerat contains neither reconnuendations nor conclusions ofthc FBI. [1 is the ptopeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. hG b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b?C ooJ/orp b6 b6 b7: DOJIOIP DOJIOIP b6 b7C DOJIOIP DOJIOIP b6 DOJIOIP 136 1373 b6 b6 Communion 0F (if (U) oamemme mgr; 2 of 4 b5 Per DOJKGIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b7C b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b?C b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Communion 0F (if (U) I I Damemme hG b7E .F?ngc Per DOJIOIP b6 b?A h?C b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b5 Per DOJKOIP I .On 06f06f2018 .Hmc 4 Of 4 b6 b5 Per DDJIOIP DOJIOIP b6 DOJIOIP b6 DOJKOIP b6 h7C DOJIOIP b6 DOJIOIP b6 h?A DOJIOIP b6 1 Of 2 Date ofentn- 12f06f2018 FEDERAL GRAND JURY INFORMATION This document contains information pertaining to a federal grand jury proceeding. The information may not be disseminated within or outside the FBI, except as provided for under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure wherein disclosure may be made to: an attorney for the government for use in performing that attorney's official duties; or any government personnel that an attorney for the government considers necessary to assist in performing that attorney's official duties. On December 2, 2018 at approximately FBI Special :2 bttempted to locate and interview lat the address of Agents knocked on the door of the apartment and were met by an unknown male (UM). UM opened the door and was observed standing behind him b3 inside the apartment. Agents re uested to speak UM began :gc speaking on his behalf. UM saidi Iwas not willing to speak to the Agents without an attorney present. Agents asked UM to identify himself and he refused. UM stated he was and that he would not identify himself without an attorney present. Agents then confirmed he wanted to speak with an attorne rior to speaking with the Agents. Agents asked for the name and UM stated that they would not provide the name of the attorney without him or her being present. I Agents then requested to speak with UM stated that did :2 not live at the apartment. UM further relayed thatl lwas a resident ch that the Agents should look for him there. UM was then advised that intentional false statements to the Agents was a violation of federal law. UM then stated words to the effect of, "well, he?s not here." Agents again asked UM in the apartment and he refused to answer without an attorney. UM did not provide the name of his attorney. lntesiigutionon 12/!02f2018 at United States (In Person} :2 ?mg Dmemmkd 12f05f2018 by This doeument contains neither reeonmtendntions nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pnopetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 (Rm: . ?ew on 12/02 _On 12f02f2018 Agents departed the residence and returned a few minutes later gave UM and a piece of paper containing contact informa both of the Agents and requested to be contacted after opportunitv to speak with his attorney. UM and ng . Agents tion for had an were advised that 2 of 2 topics related In response, UM stated that th attempt to contact an attorney and that they could possibly meet with the A ents later that evening, or perhaps the following morning. UM then that "the least complicit in all of this." Agents then departed the residence. ey would UM andl [were further advised that Agents wished to discuss At approximately 3:45 PM, land spoke with I answered the phone and immediately stated that he could be reached through his attorney. identity and then relayed that the Agents had official documents for himJ stated that his attorneyl documents on his behalf. SAI Irelayed that he was familiar Iwould accept service and responded by saying, "I'm sure you are." of the with [Agent note: On December 3, 2018, notified ASC Zelinsky that he did not represent and would not acceptl Enclosed for the file as digital lA attachments to this are electronic copies of along with a copy of the email correspondence between ASC Zelinsky and b7: 1 Of 2 Date ofentn- 12f10f2018 FEDERAL GRAND JURY INFORMATION This document contains information pertaining to a federal grand jury proceeding. The information may not be disseminated within or outside the FBI, except as provided for under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure wherein disclosure may be made to: an attorney for the government for use in performing that attorney's official duties; or any government personnel that an attorney for the government considers necessary to assist in performing that attorney's official duties. Iwas interviewed by FBI Special Agent (SA) ISAI ISAI land Assistant ch Special Counsel Aaron Zelinsky atl Iwas accompanied by his attorneyl [Prior to the interview, After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: was informed it was a violation of federal law to intentionally :2 lie to federal investigators in the course of an investigation, and he b7: acknowledged that he understood. b3 b6 b3 b6 lntesiigutionon 12/!07f2018 at United States (In Person} b3 Hb? Dmemmkd 12f07f2018 hE by we . This document contains neither nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b3 ED "(321 {Rev {3(U) Receipt of Grand Jury production from Communion of all .011 2 ,f 7" f2 0 8 .F?ugc 2 2 [Agent note: Prior to the interview, attorney advised that his :2 'client declined to provide information about the origin of the documents. Ifurther advised he was not sure if his clientl also stated his cliend I The original copies of the documents provided by are being h3 maintained as a grand jury exhibit and a copy is being maintained in the ha 1A section of the case file. Agents photographed] I b7C The photographs are enclosed in the la section of the case file.] ?rmimm:eoun '1 Of 3' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ofentt'gr 06f09f2Dl-?l date of birth (DOBJI EEC Iwas interviewed by telephone at] I After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the the following information: 136 h? b6 1:16 b6 . - - 05f28f201?1 United States {Phone} 135 int est on at 137': meg Date drafted 06f02f201?1 HIE by This docmnertt contnins neither nor conclusions ofthc FBI. [1 is the pneperty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 13 1:16 FD-mza (Rm. ns-na-m; 1:73 UNCLASSIFIEDM Comimmionarm-3mm InterView 0f Du 05f28f2014 . Page 2of3 136 13TH 13'3?: 1:6 1373 hi?: 136 13TH. b7C 1:16 1:173. 13W: 1:16 1:173. 13W: 1:16 1:173. 13W: 136 HR: 1371?. (Rm: CominuztlionofFD-??zof Interview Of I .011 05f23f2014 .1213send the interviewing agent documents related to h? these subjects by e?mail. He indicated his willingness to be available for follow-up questions: once these documents had been reviewed and further investigation had been conducted. nimimm:ssun '1 Of 3' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Ditto 09f14f2017 date of birth (DOB) be social security account numberl [telephone number ch was int rviewed telephonically. from the office of who was also present during the call. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b6 1371?. 136 b6 tm-cstigutionon at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} Fileii Dotedra?ed 09f13f2017? b6 by This document contains neither nor conclusions oftne FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 16 b6 FD-Tmza (Rev. 05?03-10} . Page Communionc-FFD-B?lgf Interview Of .011 09f12f2017' 2 of 3 b6 b6 1:6 137': b6 b6 (Rm: ContinuationofFD-Bnlof (U) Interview Of .011 .1?21gc 3of3 b6 b6 h?C b6 I Ishe wished to provide FBI regarding] Iadvised he would collect items from b6 and would scan and email them to Ias he obtained b7: them. {Attached as digital lie available for re-cohtact. -l of l- ?ies: S-R-IU) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 07f11f2018 I I email addressl phone numbersl Iwas interviewed by phone. Present Senior for the interview were Special Agent Assistant Special Counsel Andrew Weissmann, and Assistant Special Counsel After being advised of the identity of the interviewing provided the following 135 Per Brian Richardson. Agent and the nature of the interview! information: b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b7C P15 Pier DOJIOIP b6 'oE Per DDJIOIP b6 115 Per DOJXOIP b6 13'3?: District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} 135 b7E 04f10f2018 at Washington, I Date draitcd on File by This decmnent contains neither nc-r conclusions oftnc FBIloaned to year agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed eutstde your agency. 1 Of 1 Date ofenzn- lUfO?lf2Dl7 On September 25, 201? at approximately 1:30 PM, FBI Special Agents and SA attempted to locate and interviewl Iat his place of employment, 136 The Agents were met at the front desk I hic who advisedl I . [The Agents provided lwith business cards and requested a return phone call froml Later that afternoon at approximately 4:00 PM, a phone call froml Iadvised he was willing to speak with the Agents and relayed he believed the nature of the interview to be about an individual named, IVAN TIMOFEEV who was scheduled to speak b6 at a conference on the following evening. that the nature of the Agents inquiry was regarding TIMOFEEV. to an interview with the Agents on the following morning; September 26, 201?, at 8:30 AM. lm'esiiguiionen 09/!02f2017f at United States {In Person) b6 File?f Dzuedra?ed 09525f2017' 13'1?: b7E by This decrement eenmins neither recommendations sue-r conclusions eflhe FBI. [1 is the pnepeny of the FBI and is loaned to yeur agency: it and its ee-ntenls are net 10 be distribulcd eulside your agency. FBK 3;.ng (Rev. 5-8-10) 1 Of 4 date of birth social securit account number Date of cntn? was interviewed at l0f06f2017 His tele hone number is and his email address is the nature of the interview was to spea a an in ivi ua IIVAN TIMOFEEV (TIMOFEEV). After being advised of the identit of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, the following information: aware of TIMOFEEV and identified him as the Director of Programs at a Russian think tank called, RUSSIAN INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS COUNCIL TIMOFEEVI was advised FSVC event, being held on the same evening as this interview. The event was entitled 1"Financial Sanctions and "De?Risking": The Intended and Unintended Consequences of International Regulatory Actions." The event was being held at THE YALE CLUB, 50 Vanderbilt Avenue, York. New York, New himself from the interview and when he returned, provided the Agents with both a pamphlet and a handout for the event being held later that evening. pointed out TIMOFEEV's name and biographical information depicted on the back page of the pamphlet. advised many other individuals were also speaking at the event, 1 I TIMOFEEYI I Idid not believe the FSVC as a non-profit organization which helps developing countries strengthen their financial sectors and financial institutions. provided Russia, China, and India as examples of developing counties that FSVC has performed such services in. funded in part by the CARNEGIE CORPORATION in New York from which a large portion of the direction of their business is derived from. FSVC is The FSVC is also funded in part by the US government. FSVC was founded in 1990 and has deployed approximately 9000 volunteers in over 60 countries. FSVC ln?tcsiiguiionon 09f26f2017 at New York, New York, United States {In Person) File ii I I Date dra?This document contains neither sac-r conclusions efthc FBIleaned Ic- )?(Etti' agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed outside your agency. b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 (Rm: (U) Interview of .On 09f26f2017? Jung; 2 of ?1 Communion of of coordinates their mission abroad with the United States Agency for International Development and the United States Department of State b6 [Additionally, Once a strategy is identified in a developing country, the FSVO will attempt to identify specific experts with knowledge of that country?s financial sector to assist with the modernization of and Westernization of their systems. I Iinitially met TIMOFEEV approximatelyl Iago. He last b5 saw TIMOPEEV in 137:: was a nice guy and found him to be very b5 articulate, professional, and thoughtful. viewed TIMOFEEV as b7: having moderate, western-oriented views related to engagement and dialog between the United States and Russia. Therefore, TIMOFEEU to speak at the FSVC event on September 26, 201?. The CARNEGIE CORPORATION suggested the event on September 26, 2017, specifically for discussions about financial sectors and "de?risking." b6 bpproximately 200 participants at the event. aware of a Washington Post article published about he TIMOFEEV, depicting his communication with a former foreign policy advisor for the DONALD J. TRUMP (TRUMP) campaign. Fo-mza (Rm. [us?nun} CommunionoE?FD-??lof (U) Interview Of .011 09f26f2017 .F?ngc 3 Of 4 The FSVC does not hold symposiums in Russia,l approximatelyl IDurinq that time, Ia Russian namedJr ANDREY KAZLOV who was leading- the banking reform in Russia and was assassinated in 20064 At this point in the interview, b6 136 1371?. b6 b6 b6 1371?. 136 Hi?: b6 (Rm: Interview Of .On 09f26f201? ng 4 of 4 I Ibelieved KAZLOV had access to Russian intelligence. When asked to elaborate, in which fact that he had access to information.l KAZLOV he wanted to introduce him to someone, Ithat KAZLOV could trust that individual. KAZLOV is aware thad organization, the RIAC, works directly with the Russian government sol lHoweverJ TIMOFEEV approximately with Ifurther advised TIMOFEEU Copies of the pamphlet and the handout provided enclosed for the file as digital 1A attachments to this FD-302. The original documents will be maintained in a physical 1A envelope (Rev. -l of l- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION h6 Date ofentn- 09f05f2017 INew York, New York, was called atl Ion 8f1f201?. had previously left a voioemail with the writer on provided the following: stated that he had been called by] I last week as to her interview with the undersigned.] I b6 I we [told the undersigned he was The undersigned explained that he had asked[ I b6 tmestigntionon at New York, New York, United States (In Person} Filctf Date draitcd 08f01f2017? b6 by This deeument contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agencydistributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ofentn- 06f09f2017 FEDERAL GRAND JURY MATERIAL - DISSEMINATE PURSUANT TO RULE Do not disseminate except as authorized by federal rule of criminal procedure lwork address I I On May 2, 201?, ldesk phone number was interviewed at his place of employment,l I Also present during the interview was Financial Investigator I The writer made contact withl I1 I After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the the following information: At the conclusion of the interview, lwasl I I A copy ofl Iis included in this file as 1A evidence. lntest'tgution on O5j02f2017 at United States (In Person} Ir?tlett.E Date dra?ed 05f31f2017? by This deeuntent contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pnopetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agencydistributed outside your agency. tosses - inert? Himgmm souFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Ditto Wendy 12phone numberl Iwas interviewed at his ch residence located atl Present for the interview were FBI Special Agent and FBI Special Agentl IAfter being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the purpose of the interview, provided the following information: b6 b6 133 Per 156 1237!: I Iwas shown a text message and said he had no idea meant. The text message is enclosed and labeled ?Show Document was asked what he meant in a message b7: lnyosiigzttionon 12f11f2018 at United States (In Person} ESE: meg-l I Date dra?ed 12f12ff2018 137E by I This docmuent contains neither reconnuendntions nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the piepeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} 137E Interview of l2fll CommunionuFFD-??luf ?(2018 .On 12f11f2018 .F?ngc 2 Of 2 b6 b7: IThe text message is enclosed and labeled ?Show Document teem} 3 -l of 2- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (Rev. ofentt'y 12f04f2018 On l2fD3f20lB,l I white female, was b5 interviewed by telephone. Present on the call were Assistant Special Counsel (ASC) Aaron Zelinskv, Special Agentl I I land he attorneyl I After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, the following informationaround October 2016, when WikiLeaks dumped the emails of John I b6 Podesta,l UNCESSIFIEDM 12f03f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone2018 i it Date dutitcd If by This deeument eentuins neither conclusions eflhe FBI. [1 is the ptepeny of the FBI and is loaned to yeur agency: it and its ee-ntents tll'c net to be distributed eutside your agency. FBK lgC?U'l b6 (Rev. 05-03-10} 137': I (HIM Interview of I12 CommunionMED-3n: of .On 12f03f2018 .F?ngc was amenable to re?oontaot and was advised that any information b6 she would like to provide the SOD in the future should be delivered via her attorney to ABC Zelinsky. nimgmm:seun '1 Of 3' Dtiteefentry U5f23f2018 I Idate of birth Isooial b6 . . . . . security account numberl I was interviewed at his residence I Ioell phone number is Iwas advised the nature of the interview pertained to a ROGER J. STONE. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b6 b6 136 1371?. b6 D5f18f2018 I United States (In PersonDate dm?ed If File by This deeunient eenttiins neither conclusions eflhe FBI. [1 is the ptepeny ef the FBI and is loaned to yeur agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK igC?U'l b6 (Rm: (U) Interview Of .011 05f13f2018 2 of 3 . Page b6 I b6 b7: During the 2016 Presidential campaignJr STONE b6 b6 b6 136 hi?: I b6 Fo-fmza (Rm. (15-11240; b7: (U) Interview of .On Jung; 3 of 3 Communion of of b6 IWhen asked about Wikileaks, b6 I Irecounted another instance where b6 I has contacted by he . . 1376 I was not aware of STONE utilising any applications to communicate with his associates. 133 Per b6 137E ,m nsoi nimgmm:ssun 1 Of 1 - - 1, ofentt'y 05f15f2018 (U) On Special Bgen contactedl ha lat On 05f10f2018 responded. The contact withl Iis attached as a 1A. (U) On called SAI Iutilizing telephone number I Iin response to SA Isent on 05109 X2018. After confirming that the Iwasl ISAI confirmed that he was attempting to contactl lprovided the following information: froml Ithat the FBI came to her home and asked be for This alarmedl b7: [asked what the contact was about and asked if BA IROGER STONE, but was not sure why the FBI would be interested in thatJ stated he wanted to help and was willing to meet with the FBI. lhas a DC area code phone number for his work with politicians. b6 (U) In a later phone conversation on stated he would ch be available at 2pm on Friday 05/11f2018 in for an interview and he would send the details of location via email to SBI (U) rovided a location for the meeting via email. A few hours later, stated via email he wanted to contact an attorney and asked to postpone the interview. Later, ent his attornev?s contact information to SBI lThe email communication with is attached as a 1B. 05f10f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (Phone) . b6 . . 05fl4f2018 tr Date dm?ed by This doeument contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the ptopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng E'D-Siil (Rev. -1 of 5- Dnteofentry date of birth (DOB) was interviewed at the Special Counsel?s Office, Wastington, DC. The interview team were FBI Special Agent FBI Intelligence and Assistant Special Counsel Aaron Zelinsky. Present representing Prior to the start of the interview, ASC Zelinsky verbally reviewed the wasl Lrelephone number e?mail terms of a letter setting forth the agreement upon himself available for the interview. stated that he understood the terms of the letter agreement. I lsigned the letter. After being advised of the identities of the interview team and the nature of the the following information: I lwanted to work for the Trump Campaign] [sent letters and e?mails to individuals that appeared to work closely with the Campaign, including Roger Stone. lresponded tol le- mail to Stone. I land Stone. During the not know whether or not Stone was affiliated with the Campaign. Stone told I 1 lmet with Stone, land one of Stone's attornevs at al I I Stone did not indicate who would be the customer. I I I IStone's Political Action Committees (PAC) included the lni'esiigztiimion 05/!31f2018 at Washington, File I District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} Date dra?ed 05531/2018 m-I This doeumeut contains neither nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the ptepeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency (Rm: (U) Interview of Con?rmationc-FFD-??luf 05-31-2018 DH 05x31X201s 2 of 5 Committee to Restore America's Greatness, Clinton?s War on Women and Stop the Stealmeeting with Paul Manafort. I Idoes not know whether FAQs and Campaigns are permitted to work together. The meeting with Manafort never happened. b6 I [main point of contact was I Post-election I I II Idid not discuss these messages with StoneI I not recall any discussions with Stone about Hillary's b6 . deleted e-mails. I I In August 2016, Stone andI I does not know why Stone andI I I be time. Stone did not explain who he was talking to or what they were talking about.I Idoes not recall what Iat the Republican b6 National Convention (ENC). I I b7: the RNC where Stone spoke. I also spoke.I I I Later, b6 b6 FD-fmza (Rm. ns-na-m} b7: (U) Interview of .On 05f3l/2018 .Wmc 3 of 5 b6 h6 did not hear anything from Stone or Stone had a security detail with him during the RNC. b6 communications. does not know why Stone wanted secured communications. does not believe that Stone ever ended up using them. I Inever communicated with Stone using secure communications. b6 h?C . . b6 communicated withl does not . . know how or wherel lgot the information. In casual conversation, mentioned that it was easy. I lsentl the information through ProtonMail. withl in order to make himself useful and to try to impress Stone. was upset owed money. eventually stopped responding to After stopped working for Stone, did not have any need to contact I b6 wrote to Stone. b7: did not have any reason to believe that Stone was working with Assange or trusted him. must have been passing along believes that (Rm: (U) Interview of Communion .On 053? 3 1 f2 0 18 .F?ugc ail of 5 Stone told himI I Iwith Stone about WikiLeaks and Assange but nothing more than what was in the news. I primary e-mail account has beenI I For a short time, I I ImetI Iat the RNC. told Eric Trump but I Sometime in the last few days, communicated td Iwould be at the SCO today. does not recallI Ireaction. Idid not mean something specific when he wrote this message. IStone thatI lot with Sidney Blumenthal andI got this information fromI [does not know where] Igot the information. I IthoughtI I I Iknew that the information was for Stone. I Ibelieves that Stone knew that I Stone andI Italked about WikiLeaks releasing different items. Stone hadI II did not hear Stone or anyone else say that Stone had direct or indirect communications with Assange. Stone Stone consulted with the candidate. Stone, however, could never produce the candidate orI I I Ito speak with them. I Ihis time working on Campaign issues. I I I did not have an official end date. I Icannot recall when he last spoke with Stone, it was a long b7: 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview of .On 05f31/2018 .Wmc 5 Of 5 time a I 335 - b6 -l of l- E'D-Siil (Rev. FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION of entry ?one? 3 06f04f2018 I Itelephone number ha I [email address 3 and I was interviewed telephonically after an in person interview earlier in the day. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the provided the following information: b6 Additionallvil b6 137C stated he would provide records documenting to lby May 28, 2018. (Note: lseveral emails after this phone call with additional records. These records are attached to this report). 05f25f2018 at New York, New York United States {Phone} . b6 . . 06f01f2018 it Date donned by This doeument contains neither nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the ptopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to bed istribtilcd outside your agency. nimgmm:eouu '1 Of 3' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofenu'y 06f04f2018 b6 I date of birth telephone number I Iemail addressesl land I Iwas interviewed at thel I I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b6 b6 Background on b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 lnyesiigoiionon D5f25f2018 at United States {In Person) File 4'15 DEIIC dl'EI?Cd 051:2 9",2018 by This doeomeut contains neither reeonnuendmious nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnepeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agency: it and its eontenls are not to be distribulcd outside your agency. FBK lgC?U'l b6 FD-fsnza (Rev. Interview of 25! 208 .On 05f25f2018 .Hmc 2 Of 3 b6 not familiar with the name or the company Psy? Group. b6 (Note: at 9:06 AM, ha While awaiting return phone callJ Ihad a 55 recollection that he neededl I b7: (Note: at 9:12 AIM b6 I lnow recalled with certainty. explained that be In the beginning of August 2016, be b6 b7: (Rm: Interview of CommunionuFFD-??luf May 25! 208 .On .F?ngc 3 Of 3 b6 h?C I36 137:! b6 I36 137:! b6 b7: Miscellaneous: b6 is not aware of anyr foreign contributions to the 2016 1:7: presidential campaigns. I 1 I I36 137:! 13:6 1376. b6 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 07f17f2018 I I telephone number b5 1 email addressesl and Iwas interviewed telephonioally. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the the following information: b6 136 1370 ln't'csiigttiionon 07f12f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} 306 Filct? thtedraitcd 07513f2018 by This decrement neither i'CCOl?nl?t?tCt?td?liOl?tS sue-r conclusions ofthe FBIleaned te- mus' agencydistributed eutstde your agency. FBK 3;.ng 1 Of 2 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 08f10f2018 I Idate of birth ltelephone number b5 [was interviewed telephonically by Special Agent Also present were Senior Assistant Special Counsel Zainab Ahmad and Forensic being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the provided the following information: 135 Per DOJXOIP 136 1371?. b5 Per DOJKOIP 1:16 b7C b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 135 Per DOJKOIP b6 h5 Per b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b7: 07f13f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} thtedraitcd 0Tf24f2018 b6 Hit by I This decrement neither sac-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed your agency. b6 FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} 3375'- Interview of I 13! 2018 On 07f13f2018 2 of 2 b5 Per DOJKOIP Page b6 135 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 P?r DOJIOIP b6 -l of l- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (Rev. Ditto 07f19f2018 I I date of birth (DOB) Itelephone number I [email addresses] land was interviewed telephonically. Also present was Senior Assistant Special Counsel Zainab Ahmad. was asked questions about the attached email and images that sent to Special Agentl on July 15, 2018. After being advised of the b6 identitj of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b5 Per DOJIOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 07f18f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} b6 Filctf thtedraitcd 0Tf18f2018 by This docmueut contains neither reconmtendutious nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 (Rev. -1 of 6- sm?ri FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ofentn- 07f30f2018 On May 30th 2018 ll:OD AM, at the office of Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee's legal counsel, Perkins Coie, TOD Thirteenth Street Northwest, Suite 600, Washington, District of Columbia b6 [Democratic National Committee, b7: Date of Birth (DOBJI Iwas interviewed by employees of the Special Counsel?s Office. In attendance were Perkins Coie Attorney IPerkins Coie Attorneyl I Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent IFederal Bureau of Investigation Management and Program Analyst] I and Special Counsel Attorney After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agents, and purpose of the interview, stated the fellowmg: 135 Per b6 135 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Pier DOJIOIP Ease- lnt'osiigttiionon 05f30f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 .. . . .r 051'30 2018 1? ft DJIC dld?cd ?If b7: hr b7E This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the ptepeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agents)". it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 FD-rmza (Rev. 05-03-10} 137?: b7E ng CmummMmu?FDanm?iU} Interview of .On 05f30f2018 2 of 6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b7E b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b6 Interview Ofl I .On 05f30f2018 .hmc 3 Of 6 b5 Per DOJKGIP b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b7C b?E b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 yak DOJIOIP b6 (Rev. b6 CmumMMmu?FDJ?zm?(U} Interview Ofl I Du 05f30f2018 ng 4 Of 6 b5 Per DOJKGIP b6 b5 Per DOJKGIP b6 L5 Per DOJKOIP b6 h?C b7E b5 Per DOJKGIP b6 b5 Per DOJXDIP h6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b7E b6 Interview Of] Du 05f30f2018 ng 5 Of 6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 h?C b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b?C h7E b5 Per DOJKUIP I b6 (Rev. b6 Con?nuu?onafFEL??zof Interview of Du 05f30f2018 6 of 6 b5 Per DOJKGIP ng h6 b7C 125 Per DOJXOIP 136 137:: 1:73 b5 Per DOJKGIP b6 b7E b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP (Rev. -l of 2- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 07f06f2017 FEDERAL GRAND JURY MATERIAL - DISSEMINATE PURSUANT TO RULE Do not disseminate except as authorized by federal rule of criminal procedure On May 11, 2017, Iwas interviewed atl I telephone number] I Also present during the interview wasI I Department of Justice Senior Financial Investigator (Contractor). After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, the following information: memes ?es-s- on 05/1 11f2017 at I File Li Date dra?ed 05?! 1 5f201? by This document contains neither nor conclusions ofthc FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency b6 FD-Tmza (Rex; 05?03-10} b7: ContinuationoFFD-Bnlof Interview Of .011 05f11f2017? .1?21gc 2 Of 2 b3 b6 Iis maintained in this case file as 1A evidence. 57;; 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date 12f20f2018 (U) On 12/19f2018 Special AgentI Iand Intelligence b5 AnalystI IinterviewedI I I IAfter being advised of the identitv of the interviewing Special Agent and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: Ivoluntarily providedI I b6 IstatedI I b6 I EN: 13711 IFusion GPS, Glenn Simpson's firm, responsible for the Trump?Russia dossier. {Uil Istatedl b6 IstatedI b6 Iwas not interested in learning the details of the Special Counsel?s investigation, I IsaidI b6 12f19f2018 at IUnited States (In Person} . . b6 meg I Date drafted l2fl9f2018 1337:: I This decmnent contains neither nni' conclusions FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCi?l}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mus' agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed eutstde your agency. i'o-atumccs-x-tn) 1 Of 4 Dwedrmn' U3f20f2018 I I for UPS Bank was interviewed by FBI Special Agen? land Special Counsel Prosecutor Kyle Freeny. Present during the interview were counsel forI LI I Egc andI IofI . After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the the following information: 135 Per b6 F55 Per DOJIOIP hG I 135 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP 135 Per DOJKGIP 01f11f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 Filctf I I Date dra?cd O3f?lf2018 137?: mI I h7E This deeument neither sac-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl?l}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mur agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 Communion 0F (if (U) Interview .On OlflleOlB mgr; 2 of 4 b5 Per DOJKGIP b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJKGIP b5 Per DOJKGIP b5 Per DOJKOIP 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b6 b7E Interview .On img 3 Of 4 b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJKGIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b7C b5 Per DOJKGIP b5 Per DOJIOIP be I b5 Per b6 13?: b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 Interview .On img 4 Of 4 b5 Per DOJIOIP b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b6 b?C 1:5 Per b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 (Rev. -l of 5- Date ofentn- 02f20f2 8 I Ialso known asI Idate of birth be I social security account numberl Iwas interviewed at her residence,I I I Iemail address {El Iand her telephone number isI [Present during the interview was I Idate of birthl Isocial security account numberl Fahd his telephone number is] [Assisting with this interview was FBI Miami Task Force Officer (TFOJI IAfter being advised of the identities of the interviewers and the nature of the the following information: b6 b6 MARCH FOR TRUMP EVENT AUGUST 20, 2016 b6 lntest'tgutionon D2f09f2018 at United States {In Person} :gc Fileii Date dra?ed 02f12f2018 This decrement neither sue-r conclusions efthe FBIleaned te- mus' agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. b6 (U) Interview ofl I .On 02f09/2018 .Wmc b7C b6 (Rev. b'm (U) Interview ofl CominumionMED-302M I .On .F?ugc 137$ MARCH FOR TRUMP EVENT - SEPTEMBER 2016 b6 I be we b7E (Rm: (U) Interview ofl land Cominumion c-F I .On 023? 09/2 0 18 .F?ugc ail MARCH FOR TRUMP EVENT - JANUARY 2017 b6 b6 (Rev. ?S-liR-l?} (U) Interview ofl and .On 02f09/2018 .Wmc 5 of 5 b6 ADMINISTRATIVE to conduct a search for any documents which could provide be further information about the organizers of the MARCH FOR TRUMP events. b7: She recently attempted to view their web page but found the account had been taken offlineJ . IWhen asked whether or not they would have participated in this event had they known the organizers were located overseas, bothl stated they would not have. as to whether or not the FBI had identified the actors be behind the MARCH FOR TRUMP account as being advised the FBI was continuing to investigate this matter in attempt to fully identify the individuals behind the account. During the interview, he will be maintained as evidence for this investigation. After the interview, two emails from be provided photographs of the event on August 20, 2016 and contact information for other participants. Those emails and their attachments are enclosed for the file as digital 1A attachments to this 1 Of 1 Date ofentt'y 02f13f2019 On Februar l6, 20l8, Special Agent] Itelephoned and spoke b6 withI I who had previously been interviewed in this h7c investigation. SAI Inotifiedl I I Iacknowledged and stated that she had attempted to look for additional paperwork associated with her interactions with such individuals and was unable to locate any. On Februarv l6, 20l8, Special AgentI telephoned and spoke with Iwho had previously been interviewed in this investi ation. SA notified I I b6 had forgotten that during his interview with SAI I 02f16f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} File I I Date drafted 02 1f2019 b6 by I This document contains neither E'CCOl?nl?nCl?td?liOl?tS nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCi?l}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng meme 3 . 1 Of 2 frost-a FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ofentn- 10f03f2018 date of birth (DOBJI I Social Security Numberl b6 I IP hone numberl Iwas interview at his home on September 29 2018. Also present at the interview were Special Agent and Special Agentl lAfter being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the the following information: b6 b6 [Agent Note: at this time, agents stepped outside for a two minute break] Heste- . . b6 lntest'tgution on 09f29f2018 at United States {In meg Date drafted 09f30f2018 137E by This deeument neither conclusions efthe FBIleaned te- mur agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutstde your agency. FBK 19W1 (Rev. b6 CmumMMmu?FDJ?lm?(Uf??e?o} Interview Of .On .Wmc 2 of 2 . b6 little about the Access Hollywood tape and had no knowledge of] Irecognized the name of Roger Stone, I not recall right off hand. b6 b6 b6 ,m awoi nimgmm:ssun 1 Of 3 - - :3 Date ofentry 11f30f2017 date of birthl home be . address mobile telephone numberl business phonel was interviewed telephonically. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the the following information: was asked if he would be willing to meet with Agents to further comment on] not recall any other details. I Iknows it is a crime to lie to Federal Agents and he did not want to say anything out of context. Nonetheless, 1 b5 claimed he did not put two and two together until seeing on the news GATES and MANAFORT had been arrested. not certain GATES was MANAFORT's guy until seeing the arrest in the news. After the arrest, went back through his records and claimed he did not lm'csiigmion?? 11f15f2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} b6 Filer.E Date dm?cd lifi5f201? if?: in This doeumerat contains neither rceonnuendmions nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agency: it and its contents are not to be distribulcd outside your agency. FBK 19W1 b6 (Rm: CommunionoFFD-??lof (U) Interview Of .011 11515/2017 2 of 3 have anything relevantl I there was no recordsl I in his initial b6 interview. ldid his own research and learned GATES and MANAFORT b7: hired another public relations firm on March 15Jr 2012. He did not know at the time they hired the public relations firms MERCURY and the PODESTR GROUP until after the arrest. heard of both public relations firms before but did not have an opinion of either. At some pointJ Ibelieved ROGER STONE (STONE) was possibly settinnl I b6 I I Istressed he did not do anything illegal. Whenl lwas asked if he would be willing to sit down and meet with the Agents face?to?face, lstated IAgents explained tol b6 IWhen asked about the b7: lcontended he has never met MRNAFORT. seeking public relations assistance. stated he would be willing b6 to meet with Agents as early as next week[ b7: b6 (Rm; CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview Of .011 11f15f2017' .F?ngc 3 Of 3 b6 136 Agents askedl Iif he would be willing to forward the two emails he exchanged with GATESI lwhich he anteed to do Roth b3 per Dng?oIp 7?17"; 21?anth harafn Ah? inr?ln?a? TIM: I E'D-Stil (Rev. 5-8-10) 1 Of 1 Date ofentn- llf29f2017 [date of birth Iwas interviewed at his place of residence, lWashington, D.C. 20008. b6 was advised the Agents were attempting to locate and speak with hit an individuall IAfter being advised of the nature of the interview and the identities of the interviewing the following information: I IconfirmedI I date of birth I b6 I Irecommended the Agents attempt to contactI b6 Iof Washington, D.C.. I Idid not have a phone number forI Iasl I I Iprovided an email be . b?C address of as an alternative means to 11f15f2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 Fileii Dntedm?ed 11f27f201? 137.: by This deeuntent contains neither ne-r conclusions eflne FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCi?l}' of the FBI and is leaned te- mur agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutside your agency. FBK 19W1 1 Of 2 Dwedrmn' 06f25f2018 FEDERAL GRAND JURY INFORMATION This document contains information pertaining to a federal grand jury proceeding. The information may not be disseminated within or outside the FBI, except as provided for under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure wherein disclosure may be made to: an attorney for the government for use in performing that attorney's official duties; or any government personnel that an attorney for the government considers necessary to assist in performing that attorney's official duties. (U) On 06/13x?2018 Special Agents (sail land linterviewedl I at her residence at IAlso present lwho left after the first few minutes of the interview. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing 8A5 and the nature of the the following information: {Uil {oil I I {Uil {Uil 06f13f2018 EH UHitEd States (In Person} 1'1!an DEIIC dl'?l?Cd O?flg?fz?l? This document contains neither i'eeonmiendmions nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontems are not disu-ibnled onlside your sigma}; FBK 3;.ng 10 (Rm: Interview Of 06f13f2018 ng gavel Ian indication he had any special insight into the TRUMP indication he had insight into the campaign. Igave no 2 of 2 Isaid he has a place inl claimed he unaware ofl Ibusiness, or where his money comes from, if there is any moneyJ {Uhl Idid not know any ofl lclose associates but thought I (U) and I would communicate via text messageI36 137:! 136 ?373; 1:13 136 137:: E'D-Siil (Rev. -l of ll- Dntcofentry 10f2lf2018 (U) On 07f02f2018 Special Agent (sail ISA ?35 Intelligence AnalystI Iand Assistant Special b7: Counsel (ASE) Aaron Zelinsky interviewedI Iat the Special Counsel?s Office in Washington, DC. Icounsel,I I was present. ASC Zelinksy admonished hat lying to the FBI is a crime. After having been advised of the identity of the interviewing SAs and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b5 per DOJIOIP I I 136 I I bE per DOJIOIP b6 155 per DOJIOIP b6 b7C 07f02f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 h?C Date dra?cd OTf02f2018 b7E lntestigution on File if by This docmueut contains neither nor conclusions oftiic FBI. [1 is the ptopeity of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. 136 leC (Rm: 07,2?02f2018 my; 2 of 11 (U) Interview Of .011 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJXGIP Spar DOJXUIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b6 190-302;: (Rm. 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(Rm: b6 Interview Ofl I 0?;?D2f2018 .1?ngc 8 Of b5 per DOJIOIP h? b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} (U) Interview Of .011 07f02f2018 Jung; 9 Of 11 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b?C b5 per DOJIOIP 136 b7C (Rm: b6 Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of 0?;?D2f2018 .1?ngc 10 Of b5 per DOJXOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b7C b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b7C b5 per b6 b5 per DOJIOIP 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b6 Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of 0?;?D2f2018 .1?ngc Of lJ. b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP hG b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP I b6 b5 per b5 per DOJKOIP hG b5 per DOJIOIP b6 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 02f26f2 8 On December 5, 2017, SAI [Wedl loutside of 1335 his home. [returned evidence hr?: 1:16 h?E : provided the following information: I Iby PAUL MANAFORT. Some time around the b5 Thanksgiving holiday, MANAFORT had oalledl b7: b6 13'3?: lmostigotionon 123:0qung at United States {In Person) ESE Ir?iloi.E 121'053?201? bjE by This docmucnt contains noitncr rcconnucndations nor conclusions oflhc FBI. [1 is the piopony of the FBI and is lonnod to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 toss: nimlmm:ssun 1 Of 4 - - 1; FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 06f06f2017 On May 26, 20l7, Idate of birthl cellular telephone numbed was interviewed at his residence located at I 1 Also present during the b5 interview wad 1 Department of Justice Senior Financial b7c Investigator (Contractor). After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the the following information: was avis Manafort Partners (DMP), a businessfpolitical consulting firm. At the time, office was located at 211 N. Union Street, Suite 250, Alexandria, VA. h? I I The office at 211 N. Union subsequently closed in 20124 136 b6 lm'estigution on O5j26f2017 at United States (In Person} b6 I by This docmnent contains neither i'eeonmtendotions nor conclusions oflne FBIloaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 (Rm: b6 Interview Of .On 05f26f201T ng 2 Of 4 b6 b?C Manafort consulted for the Party of Regions in Ukraine ainoe approximately b6 2006 and from 2008-2010 traveled back and forth from there quite a bit 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b6 UNCLASSI b?C CommunionoFFD-B?lor Interview of Du 05f26f2017' 3 of 4 . Page b6 1:6 I36 137:! 136 1370 b6 136 hi?: 1:16 b6 13'3?: 1:6 (Rm: b6 ContinuationofFD-B?lof Interview Of .011 05f26f2017? .1?21gc 4 Of 4 I36 137:: In a subsequent telephone call from the writer to provided EEC the following further information: b6 roam, (Rev. 1 Of 1 ofentn- DEKOTK2017 On May 27, 20l7, [cellular telephone was b5 interviewed telephonically. lwas already aware of the identity of ch the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview from previous contact by the writer. provided the following information: b6 UNCLASS ?ee: USEZTKEDIT at United States (Phone) . b6 . . 06f07f2DlT I: Date dei?ed b'i'C by b7E This doeument contains neither nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the ptopeny of the FBI and is loaned to }'ous' agency: it and its tll'c not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 3;.ng nimgmm:ssun '1 Of 5' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ass? 3 Date ofcutn- 07f06f2017 On June 22, 2017, lwas interviewed at the office of be the Special Council located at 601 Street, NW, Washington DC. Also ch present during the interview was Special Prose utor An rew Weissmann, Senior Financial Analyst] I SA and attorney, Iwas familiar with the identit of the interviewing agent, as well as the nature of the provided the following information: SP Weissmann advisedl I b5 I hire Iwas further advised he was at the interview voluntarily, and could terminate it and leave at any time. also confer with at any time, and that would not be held against reminded to be truthful to the best of his recollection, and any false andfor intentional misleading statement would subject him to ossible prosecution, as lying to an FBI agent is a federal violation. SP Weissmann the writer had told him the same things during his initial interview conducted on May 26, 2017. On June 5, 2017, [through his attorney, provided the writer with a be This FD-59T {Receipt for Property Received) is attached to this document as 1A evidence. b6 Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {In [m-cstigauonon 06f22t'r2017 a1 Person} 06f24f201T hE by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. it is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. (Rev. b6 ContinuationoFFD-Bnlof Interview Of .011 06f22f2017? .1?21gc 2of5 (Rm: b6 .1?21gc 3 Of 5 Conlinuztlionc-FFD-B?lof InterViEW Of .011 06f22f2017' b6 b6 136 b6 b7: 13:6 1376. b6 b6 b6 (Rev. ContinuationoFFD-B?lof Interview of .On 06f22f2017' Jung; 4 of 5 As previously stated in his initial interview on May 26, 2017, hi5 136 hi?: 13:6 1376. b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 136 (Rm: b6 of Interview Of I I 06f22f2017 .1213; 5 of 5 I Iwill furnish through b5 his attorney a copy 1 Of 2 Dntcofentry 07f2?1f2017 On interviewed telephonically. Also present during the interview was Special Counsel prosecutor Kyle Freeny andl lattorney. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the provided the following information: In approximatelvl tm-cstigzitionon 0T119f2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} File ii I Date dra?This document contains neither nor conclusions ofthc FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 13:6 1376. b6 b6 137:! 136 b6 b6 (Rm: I .On 07f19f201? .Hmc 2 Of 2 b6 Manafort was not at the Davis Manafort office very often during this time period because he was in the Ukraine and as a result,l I Rick Gatesl might have more information on this topic. b6 b6 b6 '1 Of 3' Dateofeutn? 03f12f2018 FEDERAL GRAND JURY INFORMATION This document contains information pertaining to a federal grand jury proceeding. The information may not be disseminated within or outside the FBI, except as provided for under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure wherein disclosure may be made to: an attorney for the government for use in performing that attorney's official duties; or any government personnel that an attorney for the government considers necessary to assist in performing that attorney's official duties. (U) On Special Agents :2 interviewedl I b7: directed to the interview room where SA Iwere waiting. SA he was free to leave at anytime. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents, the following information: b6 b6 b6 mwawamnmr 02f27/2018 an United States {In Person} meal I vacuum 03t05r2018 b3 b6 by 59* we This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. it is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. '28? 1 904' 1 2 7' 8 6036 b3 (Rm: b5 (U) Interview Of .011 02f27f2018 2 of 3 . Page b6 b6 136 1371?. b6 b6 b6 13:6 1376. b6 b6 b3 b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Interview Of .On 02f27f2018 b?C (U) COMMENT: At the conclusion of the interview we serve 302 I I b3 Per DOJKOIP (Rev. 5-8-10) 1 Of 4 Dnteofentry' U5f23f2018 I W35 interviewed at] 1:6 by FBI Special Agentl and Special Counsel Prosecutor Greg ch Andres. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the interviewJ provided the following information: Background h? b6 136 1370 b6 b6 ?negligmionon 05f16f2018 at . United States (In Person} b5 I mi This doeumeut contains neither reeonnuendmious nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the piopeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agencydistribulcd outside your agency. FBK lgC?v?i 278:1'6039 (Rm: b6 Interview .h?C Paul Manafort b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} b7C b7E Interview .On 05K16f2018 .Hmc (Rm: h? Interview .DOCS 7?24 b6 b6 b7C b6 b6 b?C Eastern-n: S-R-IU) - of 12 - Datcofentry 12f0?1f2017 DOCUMENT RESTRICTED TO CASE PARTICIPANTS This document contains information that is restricted to case participants. I date of birth] I social security account numberI was interviewed by FBI Supervisory Special Agent I Iand Special AgentI I Present during the interview was counsel forl IAfter being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the the following information: advised that his interview was voluntary and if he chose to answer questions he needed to be honest in his responses as lying to an FBI agent could constitute a crime. Background I Iwas hired bv First Republic Bank I FRB tm-cstigutienon 09f28f2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} HIM-E I I Date drafted 09f29f2017? by I I This deeumeut contains neither conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the property of the FBI and is leaned te- yeur agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency 136 I I CommunionofFD-??lof IUII Interview .On .F?ngc 2 Of 12 b6 137C PRB bankers received on?line training from an 1"off the shelf" product. I b5 I I Most of this training related to prohibited account types, compliance with the customer ID and Know Your Client programs, and assessing customer risk ratings. The goal of banker training was to prepare the "front line" to notice anything suspicious. The ad?hoc banker training was not provided on a regular basis. Usually, it would be given when a policy changed or a new regulation was issued. b6 I I In addition, b7: bankers were required to complete the FDIC's core curriculum each year. The curriculum consisted of suspicious activity reporting, economic sanctions information, currency transaction reporting, and customer risk rating assessments. New employees were required to complete all BSAXAML training within their first 60-90 days of employment. Existing employees took refresher training courses each year. The "front to consisted of Preferred Bankers and b5 Client Services teams. The Preferred Bankers interacted directly with the client while the Client Services teams usually operated from a call center. The Client Services teams were the go?between for Preferred Bankers and the BSAKAML teams. Preferred Bankers were protective of their clients and were responsible for opening accounts, communicating with clients, and handling transactions. Wires would be handled by the wire room, but otherwise, Preferred Bankers handled transactions for the client. If a Preferred Banker was not available, a client could go through the Client Services team to initiate transactions. ERB had a ?second line? of defense in Wire Screening rooms and Enhanced Due Diligence (EDD) teams. Wire activity and BCH transactions were screened regularly by the teams. EDD teams evaluated all new clients for risk depending on industry, products and geography. In addition, EDD conducted negative news screening and Lexis Nexis World Check once per month. 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Interview .On 09f28f201? .Hmc 3 Of The Suspicious Activity Monitoring Group monitored transactions for suspicious activity using a series of indicators such as deviation from previous behavior, structuring and other risk indicators. Paul Manafort b6 12 Manafort was already a customer at FRBI believed Manafort began with FRE in 2005. Manafort was not on radar untiH b6 Since FRB was a domestic bank with no international presence, it was considered a risk factor for a client to do significant international transacting with their FEB account. In addition, Manafort was identified as a Politically Exposed Person (PEP), which was also a risk factor for PRE. When Manafort got on FRB's radar, a significant amount of time was being spent monitoring Manafort?s accounts for potentially suspicious behavior. At some point, the resources expended to monitor an account outweighed the revenue earned by maintaining the client's accounts. Document 1 shown an email dated June 22, 2011 and further identified b6 by - I out Manafort's name 55 came up during a Lexis Nexis World Check screening. The concern was b7: Manafort was a PEP. As a result of this initiated an investigation into Manafort's accounts for the prior 1-2 years, or possibly back to inception. The purpose of the investigation was to look for any risk factors and understand the client?s transaction history. The EDD team looked into Manafort?s business, DMP Inc. not b6 recall the result of the EDD team?s investigation. I I (Rm: b6 I IInterview _On 095231201? .me 4 Of 12 I [reached out tol with the information on b6 Manafort. I b7: hopedl Icould provide information on Manafort that would assist the investigative team in understanding the full picture of Manafort?s accounts. to speak with Manafort. did not believe he reached at this b6 time. did not reach out to Manafort directly until much later. b7: Beyond Manafort being a PEP, the main issue the b6 frequency of foreign wire activity to and from questionable countries such b7: as, Russia, Ukraine and Cyprus. Cyprus was known to be a tax haven for Russia. an explanation from Manafort about why he was receiving money from these countries. In to understand more about the entities in Cyprus which were sending Manafort money: why they were set up in Cyprus, what they did, and if they were legitimate businesses. The purpose of asking these questions was for FRB to accurately assess the risk associated with Manafort's accounts. FRB did not have many PEP clients and in general, clients did not conduct many international transactions. Since FRB did not have an international presence, they were not a logical banking institution for clients who conducted frequent international transactions. International b3 transactions did not necessarily mean illegal activity; however, it did b6 require significant monitoring by FRB for suspicious activity. I h?E The investigation into Manafort?s historical activity revealed other accounts with foreign transactions and other foreign entities to and from which Manafort wired funds. Manafort's accounts b5 weren?t on FRB's radar earlier. explained that in 2011, account screening was focused on OFRC and the non-cooperating country list. thought in 2011, Cyprus and Ukraine were not as high on the suspicious country list as the British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands and Panama were. that investigations had the following tools b6 at their disposal: open source documents, Preferred Bankers knowledge of b7: the client, account opening documents, PACER litigation searches, and 314 information sharing requests to other financial b6 (Rm. ni-nR-m} b7: CommunionMED-3min? (U) I lInterview .On .F?ngc 5 Of 12 institutions. Investigation records would be maintained by FRB for a period of 5 years, but in practice, FRB often maintained records beyond the official retention policy period. Document 2 shown an email dated July 13, 2011 and further identified b6 by three Cypriot entities from which b7: Manafort received funds and about which FRB wanted more information. Specifically, to know what the entities were, who the beneficial owners were and why they were sending Manafort money. These were "typical risk questions". explained that the account names: Leviathan Advisors Ltd., b6 Global Highway Ltd. and Yiakora Ventures Ltd. sounded like investment accounts or private equity funds. It didn?t make sense these Cypriot investment funds would be sending money to Manafort, a US lobbyist. not notify anyone outside FRB about his b6 suspicions. prohibited from divulging this information b7: outside the bank. Document 3 shown an email dated January 24, 2012 and further b6 identified by The investigation into Manafort was ongoing during this time and FRB was trying to decide what to do with Manafort?s accounts. b3 b6 Manafort was very difficult to reach as he b5 traveled frequently. speculated that was the b7: Manafort this email in January 2012 request for information was in July 2011. spoke as well. ik seemed to know Manafort well. new Manafort was a lobbyist and she was aware of his foreign wire activity. did not believe he gleaned any information about Manafort from that he did not already know. (Rm: b6 Communion of of (U 1' I Interview .011 09,528 lbs: 6 Of 12 asked if he would have have alerted the b6 bank to Manafort's accounts earlier. "yes and b7: no". may not have brought it to the team?s attention because Ukraine and Russia were not as suspicious in 2011 as they are today. However, as to the fact that Manafort was a should have notified the bank. [speculated that Manafort?s b6 accounts were not as suspicious to her as they would have been now. Additionally, Manafort's balances were not that high and his account was not that large of an account That said, the volume of foreign transactions in Manafort?s accounts should have been alerting to Had Manafort been an investment advisor, this may not have been suspicious activity. However, Manafort was a PEP. explained that PRB Preferred Bankers are typically closer to be their clients than bankers at other financial institutions would be. This b7: is for tactical reasons. The better the Preferred Banker knows their client, the better they can service them and offer them other products. Preferred Bankers receive compensation based upon their clients? total relationship with the bank, including when they refer clients for additional products. Document 4 was shown an email dated January 24, 2012 and further b6 identified by asked why he wrote, "It has been confirmed that the funds coming from Cyprus entities are being originated by Russian stated he probably should have written Ukrainian, not Russian. connecting Ukraine and Russia and Cyprus. also recalled mention of Russians in the negative news stories. did not have any other information that led him to write "Russian Document 5 shown an email dated February 8, 2012 and further b6 identified by the investigation into b7: Manafort?s account had escalated and he was summarizing the matter for the RML Oversight Committee. recommending closure of Manafort?s accounts. The reference toI Iin the email meantl and would 136 FD-fmza (Rm. ns-na-m} b7: I (U) I IInterview .On .F?ngc 7 Of 12 likely have been kept apprised of the Manafort investigation. be believed the reference this email related to a different b7: account which was under investigation and not to Manafort's accounts. Document 6 shown an email dated March 2012 and further identified be by directed which read, b7: "He (Manafort) has no problem opening a Chase account for the business to handle all transactions infout internationally. Just to confirm, we are okay to accept funds from the soon to be established Chase accounts as the onus is on them to perform due diligence for any of those transactions, correct?" asking if every bank needed to do due b6 diligence. bank had to do due diligence on b7: foreign wires. said even if Manafort opened accounts at Chase and accepted the foreign wires into the Chase accounts before moving the funds to FRB, that would not eliminate risk. This would only limit the amount of resources and time spent on reviewing Manafort's accounts and would not change anything with regard to the risk. Manafort?s funds, even if passing through Chase, were still suspicious as he was a PEP and the funds were originating from Cyprus. FRB would still have to monitor Manafort?s accounts for placement, layering and integration to ensure money laundering was not occurring. layering as money coming into Chase as a pass through b6 before being moved to another account. b7: asked what the difference was between his explanation of be layering and whatl Iwas suggesting in her email. I Istated . Iwas only asking if the Chase account was a solution which would allow Manafort's accounts to remain open. was not a solution. idea was to create a "buffer for risk", could not be done. differentiated Manafort?s business accounts from his personal b6 personal accounts to have various livin and b7: household expenses, not large international wires. FRB intended I but close his business accounts. FRB had to continue monitoring Manafort?s personal accounts to look for any international wires, or pass through funds from Chase. However, it was easier to detect suspicious activity in personal accounts and therefore required less resources. b6 1* I I Interview .On 09f28f201? .Pmp 8 Of 12 looking for a work around that would allow her to keep her be relationship with Manafort. suggestion to open accounts b7: at Chase as a pass through was only accelerating FRB's risk and requiring them to monitor his personal accounts going forward. Document 7 shown an email dated March 2012 and further identified b6 by identified an additional MC account held by Manafort about not previously know, DMP International LLC. not know why he did not know about this account before. it was because the systems used by the BSHKAML team linked accounts by various identifiers and sometimes accounts were overlooked. I I did not know ldidn't bring up this account before. directed to a portion which read, ?You b6 and aid if funds came into Chase perse and then was transferred to FRB, it was fine because the onus is on Chase to complete the due diligence on those funds." he never said that and he did not know those statements to him. being "angry" when he read this email. thought maybe told the Chase account was okay as 135 it was Chase's risk. b7: recalled speaking this matter and telling her b6 that all of Manafort's business accounts must be closed to eliminate any risk of foreign wires coming into a PEP account. never suggested a pass through account at Chase, or anywhere clear that a pass through account did not eliminate risk. confident he never suggested or agreed to a pass through account as it ?goes against everything AML is about". stated the AML sub-committee determined Manafort's business b6 accounts needed to be closed. not know why they did not chose to close all of Manafort?s accounts. not notify Chase or anyone outside the bank about b3 Manafort. It would not be normal for contact Chase about b5 this. FRB did not normally share information with other banks without an information sharing request. Document 8 b6 Fo-fmza (Rm. ns-na-m} 1:7: I Interview .On 09f28f201? .Pmp 9 Of 12 shown an email dated March 8, 2012 and further identified b6 by memo?00051222. : was directed to a portion MC of Manafort?s email which read! "From what you have indicated to me, I believe that DMP is the company of concern to FRB. Based on our conversation, I would like to do the following: 1. {Davis Manafort Partners}, the Corp, will be closed as soon as the 20l1 tax return is filed. In the meantime, I will cease using it for any further purposes. 2. We will open a non?FRB account to handle any international transactions. 3. We will keep DMP International, LLC open as this entity has our healthcare and other items registered to it. Moving forward we will only fund this account domestically." stated that Manafort explanation made sense limit risk. FRB would look into the DMP International LLC account for any b7: suspicious activity. no indication that Manafort was changing jobs or changing b6 the source of his income. indication that Manafort would no longer be receiving funds from international sources. understood that these international wires would be deposited into Manafort?s business accounts at another financial institution. relayed this information to the AML sub? b6 committee. If was not in the have been the b7: person to relay the information. When FEB began looking at the DMP International LLC account, they saw the same suspicious activity they had seen in the DMP account. b6 agreed that this did not line up with what Manafort said the account was b7: used for. Document 9 was shown an email dated March 9, 2012 and further identified b6 by Passes?00051242 : eteted he relayed to :1 MC the team's finding after reviewing the DMP International LLC account and told her that account needed to be closed as well. not recall meeting withl Iin New York as mentioned in the email. If this meeting did occur, _did not recall b6 {35-0340} CommunionMED-3020f (U11 lInterview .00 09f28f201? .F?ngc 10 Of 12 the substance of the meeting. not see a reason to meet with b5 in person about this matter. b7: b6 Document 10 shown two emails dated March 9, 2012 and April 3, 2012 and b6 further identified by and 00053521 respectively. stated he notified I Ito close Manafort's accounts. Manafort was given 60 days to transition his business accounts. directed to his email dated March 9, 2012 which read, b6 the client?s intention is not an adequate control and we would still need to monitor the account." telling that FRB could not keep DMP International LLC account open even though Manafort?s intention was to only use the fund domestically. then directed to the emails on April 3, 2012 which be indicated the DMP International LLC account could remain open. b7: stated the AML sub?committee decided to allow Manafort to keep his DMP International LLC account open only for domestic transactions. could not recall who lobbied the committee to allow Manafort?s account to stay open. not recall if any additional, mitigating circumstances were presented to the committee to influence their decision. this solution a compromise. Document 11 shown an email dated March 2013 and further identified b5 by Manafort's accounts were being b7: looked at for the purpose of annual risk assessment. Document 12 shown an email dated June 2014 and further identified be by Manafort's accounts came under scrutiny again in 2014 due to sectoral sanctions and negative news about Ukraine, Russia and the Crimea. Manafort?s name came up in the negative news stories. b6 (Rm. ns-na-in} ch Cmnmemn?FDJ?ld?iU}l IInterview .On 09f28f201? .Hmc 11 Of 12 this "the last straw". The risk with Manafort's b6 accounts was too high, even if the transactions in and out of accounts were only domestic. FRB did not want to leave the door open for any additional risk. b3 b6 the email referenced information sharing requests with b6 other banks, but he did not recall this. a new position by 57C this time and was not involved in this matter. The information in this email came from the Operations team and was being compiled for an AML sub? committee meeting. not recall speaking this matter, other than b5 this email. b6 I Istatedl Iwas advocating for Manafort's accounts to remain b5 Open b7: Ihad a conversation about this, but it was non?negotiable at this point. FRB had compromised on Manafort's accounts before, partially lobbied for that compromise. FRB was not willing to compromise a second time. FRB chose to exitl b5 I I FRB had ?left the door open? before and b7: it was too risky to leave it open again. I lnotified Manafort of the account closures. b6 recalled Manafort giving a "monologue" on what his business model was and what he did. Manafort said he was a lobbyist and he was paid for political work. not recall any specifics about who Manafort worked for or where Manafort worked. 136 -an fD. zukm 3 Bl} b7: I CommunionMED-3mm? (U) I IInterview .On .F?ngc 12 Of 12 could not recall any information Manafort provided about the b6 nature or ownership of the foreign accounts. Manafort did not say why b7: the money was coming from Cyprus. Manafort seemed to understand why his accounts were being closed, but he did not understand b6 Manafort wantedl Ito provide information to the b7: AML sub-committee on his behalf sol I lcould not recall if he did so, but he likely told his boss, likely took notes during that call, but he would have shredded b5 them when he left FRB. b7C After the call with not aware of anyone be contacting FRB on Manafort's behalf. b7: not believe there was any special treatment with regards to b6 the Manafort accounts. not feel any more or less pressure on 57C Manafort's accounts than on any others with similar circumstances. Manafort?s accounts did not receive any more or less oversight than any other accounts under similar circumstances. Manafort was not treated any better or worse than any other client in similar circumstances. 7 (Rev. S-R-IU) 1 Of Dwedrmn' Ulf23f2018 I I his I was interviewed by Special Agent . IIntelligence IAssistant Special Counsel Andrew Goldstein, and Senior Assistant Special Counsel Jeannie Rhee at Patriots Plaza I, 395 Street SW, Washington, DC 20546. her attorneysI I IAfter being advised of the identity of the interviewing officials and the nature of the the folloWing information: b5 Per DOJKOIP 12$: Ifrom 135 Per b6 h?C 135 Per DOJKOIP b6 b5 Pier DOJIOIP b6 lm'esiigutionon 01f11f2018 Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} meg I I Datedra?ed b6 by SAI This doeument contains neither reeonnuendmious nor conclusions oflhe FBI. 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Rush Atkinson and Jeannie Rhee from the Office of the Special Counsel, as well as attorneysl [telephone number I Frepresenting After being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and attorneys, as well as the nature of the the following information: 135 Per DOJKOIP Per DOJIOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP b5 Per DOJIOIP Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {In 03f1152017 Person} - - b3 Emu I 08fi5/2017 136 hr b7: This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. it is the propeitjt' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents use not to be distributed outside your agency. (Rev. b3 Du 08f11f2017Per DOJIOIP 135 Per b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP be b5 Per DOJKOIP b5 Per DOJKOIP b6 b?C E'D-Siil (Rev. -l of 5- Long Beach Resident Agency by FBI Special Agentl Special Counsel Prosecutor Greg Andres. Present during the interview were Forensic Accountan? Agentl land attorney for[ Ipreviously identified, was interviewed at the FBI End Special Agentl lSpecial I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties and the nature of the interview, Document 1 provided the following information: lm'csiigniion on 12520f2017 File ii Elt Washington, District Of Columbia, Other {Lync video call}} United States (In Person, Dnicdm?cd 12f21f2017 by This canmins ncithcs' sic-r conclusions of [he FBI. [1 is propcny (if FBI and is learned In your agencydistributed outside yam- agency b6 (Rm: ch Up .On 12f29f201T .Hmc 2 Of 5 b5 Document 2 b6 b6 b6 b6 Document 3 b6 b6 b7: hE FD-fmza (Rm. {15-11240} CommunionuFFD-??luf (Ul'l Up .On 12f29f2017' .F?ngc 3 Of 5 b6 b6 Document 4 b6 b6 b6 Document 5 b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 (Rm: Up .On 12f29f201T .Hmc 4 Of 5 b6 b6 b6 Document 6 b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 Document 7 b6 (Rm. CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Up .On 12f29f2017' .F?ngc Document 8 b6 b6 b6 b6 1 Of 2 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Ofentn- 07f 06x2 0 17' On May 11, 2017, I be I telephone number I was interviewed ch telephonically. Also present during the interview was] I Department of Justice Senior Financial Investigator (Contractor). After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the the following information: lhas worked forl Ishe worked in the b5 lat First Republic Bank (FRB). b7: started working forl lwhen FRBI I While at FRB, Paul Manafort was referred subsequently b5 became a client. Manafort maintained several accounts with FRB in addition to accounts with UB8 and Morgan Stanley. I Manafort?s expenses included scheduled ones and those directed by Manafort to pay. When questioned ifl accounts Manafort be maintained with [said she had no knowledge of accounts with b7: HSBC. It was then explained tol there was a documentl I for an HSBC account.l lseveral accounts associated with Manafort, but could not recall HSBC specifically. no knowledge of any foreign bank accounts associated with b5 Manafort and could not recall having any conversations with Manafort about b7: foreign bank accounts. would speak with Manafortl to discuss Ias well as other personal accounting matters. UNCLASS Ass-.5- tm-cstigutionon [Billy/2017 at Los Angelesr Californiar United States {Phone} . b6 . . 05fl5f2DlT tr Date dm?ed by This document contains neither I'CCOl?nl?l?tCl'td?liOl?tS nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the ptepeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents tll'c not to be distributed outside your agency. 1 b6 FD-Tmza (Rex; 05?03-10} b7: ContinuationofFD-B?lof (HIM) Interview Of .011 05f11f2017? .1?21gc 2 Of 2 :lnever received any type of financial bonus from Manafort for her be - aSSistance. (Rev. durin the interview were counsel forl being advised of the identities of the interviewing parties -l of 7- Dnteofentrj' U5f23f2018 I previously identified was interviewed by FBI Special Agentl land Special Counsel Prosecutor Greg Hndres atl IPresent and the nature of the the following information: told that trial for Paul Manafort was scheduled to begin on July 10, 2018 in Alexandria, Virginia. indicated she had read portions of the original indictment charging Mana ort, but had no read any subsequent indictments. intestigutionon 05/!15f2018 United States (In File by I Date drafted 05513/2018 This decrement neither i'CCOl?nl?nCl'td?liOliS nor conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to year agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed eutstde your agency. b6 b6 b6 1371] 136 Hi": 1371.1 136 137C 136 137C b6 137C b6 I371 137:! b6 (Rm: CommunionuFFD-??luf Interview .011 2 of 7' . Page 1:6 137:: 1:79 b6 b6 b6 136 137C I 156 190-302;: (Rm. 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I I Imet Rick Gatesl Iwhen Manafort IThis was whenl I I Gates came to meet with I Manafort. Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person, inrcsiigniionon 073?09/2018 at Other {Video conference}]l File ii by This conmins ncithcs' nor conclusions of [he FBI. [1 is propcny of FBI and is loaned to it and i1s are E301 to be distributed outside yam- agency. I Dziicdm?cd 07f09f2018 b6 136 1371?. b6 b6 b'i'C 136 1370 h?E 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ofentn- 09f2 1 f2 0 l7 b6 On September 21, 2017, cellular telephone b7: number was interviewed by SAI I telephonioally. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the the following information: b6 UNCLASS Znas? tm-cstigutienen 09121;?2017 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone09f21f2017' it Date dnui?ted h?C by b7E This deeuntent eentnins neither E'CCOl?nl?l?tC?d?liOl?tS ne-r conclusions eflne FBI. [1 is the ptepeny of the FBI and is loaned to year agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed etitside your agency. FBK lgC?U'l 109 1 Of 2 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION teem} 3 ofentn- D4 f20f2 8 On the morning of Thursday, April 19, 2018, Assistant Special Counsel (ASC) Aaron Zelinsky received a text message from phone b5 The sender of the message identified as and wanted to set up a phone call. At approximately 11:15 AM EST, Thursday, April 19, 2018 ABC Zelinsky called the aforementioned number to make contact with] I :3 Present for the phone call were SSA STA ASC Zelinsky, and the writer. The recipient of the call identified as of After being advised of those present on the b6 phone call and the nature of the the following 575 information: 135 per DOJXOIP b6 135 per DOJKOIP b6 I 155 per DOJIOIP b6 qu19f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States {Phone} b6 .. . ., 0-11 20 2018 i it Date dnui?ted If b1; This decrement contains neither sue-r conclusions eflhe FBI. [1 is the pnepeny of the FBI and is loaned to year agency: it and its ee-ntents tll'c net to be distributed eutside your agency. (Rev. Interview Of #1 .On 04f19f2018 b?C -1 of 3- E'D-Siil (Rev. 5-8-10) Dnteofentn? 07f19f2018 On May 10th 2018 10:00 AM, at the office of Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee's legal counsel, Perkins Coie, T00 Thirteenth Street Northwest. Suite 600. Washington. Di strict of Columbia 1' 1:35 I i Date of Birth lwas interviewed by employees of the Special Counsel?s Office. In attendance were Perkins Coie Attorneyl IPerkins Coie Attorney Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agentl Federal Bureau of Investigation Management and Program Analyst Special Counsel Attorney Jessica Romero, Special Counsel Attorney Lawrence Rush Atkinson V, and Special Counsel Attorney Heather Alpino. After being advised of the identity of the interview agents, and purpose of the interview, stated the following: 155 per DOJIOIP b6 155 per DOJIOIP 136 HR: b5 per DOJIOIP b6 tnyestigutionon 05f10f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} me,- Dntedra?ed 0500/2018 b5 b7: by I I b'i'E This doeument contains neither nor conclusions oftne FBI. [1 is the pttopeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 1 14 (Rm: Communion 0F (if (U) Interview of b6 05,2?10f2018 mgr; 2 of 3 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJXGIP b6 b5 per DOJKOIP b6 b5 per DOJIOIP b6 190-302;. 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The recording captures the actual words spoken. b6 b6 13'3?: 136 137C b6 United States (In Person, Other 136 [m-cstiganonon 01/,15512013 :11 (tEXtii b7!? b7: meg Datcdrattcd 011(25/2018 b'i'E by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. it is the propeitjt' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its (PB?Iicig?wtl 6 1 1 7 to be distributed outside your agency. b6 (Rm: 13.73 (U) Contact With .011 01f15f2018 2 of 2 . Page b6 b6 b6 b6 b6 136 1371?. b6 b6 13:6 1376. 1 Of 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentt'gr 04 03f2 8 On January 17 and January 18 20l8, ecial Agentl land Supervisorv Special Aqentl Iinterviewedl I I The conversations were in relation to information[ Ivoluntarily provided previouslyl I [was also interviewed on January 19, 2018. This interview and therefore a separate 302 was produced documenting the details of this interaction. 01/!17f2018 at (In Person} DEIIC dl'EI?Cd 04f02f?2018 by This doeunterat contains neither reeonmtendutious nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency. b6 b3 b6 1 Of 4 frette- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 02f02f2018 I previously interviewed, was interviewed at the ha I I After being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview,I:Iprovided the following information: NOTE: SAI Ishowed b5 (Uf?E?B-U-G?i-Ijspoke freely with the Agents on the two previous days 135 and opined he jumped around with topics. I b6 (LI/Hove} I b6 (Uf?oee-II b6 Hove- lnt'est'tgutionon Olf19f2018 at (In Person} :2 File A I I Date drafted bl?: by This doeuntent contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. 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Interview of: 3X15 CommunionuFFD-??luf ?(2018 .On 03K15f2018 .F?ngc nimgmm:ssun '1 Of 3' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dntcofentn? 04f03f2018 of birth was interviewed at 395 Street SW. Washinoton. DC. Present for the interview were his counsel; Also present in the interview were Special Counsel Office (5C0), Senior Assistant Special Counsel (BASE) ZAINAB AHMAD, SAsc BRANDON VAN GRACE, and Special Agent 5 Per b3 b6 :15 Per 1:16 ha, 135 D3f16f2018 5? United States (In Person} h7E Date drafted 03519/2018 on File by This decmnent contains neither i'eceinmendatiens nei' conclusions eflnc FBI. [1 is the pnepeny of the FBI and is loaned to year agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed eutside your agency. FBK 19W1 160 b3 b6 Interview with CommunionuFFD-??luf Friday, March 1'5: 2013 .On 03f16f2018 2 of 3 b5 Per DOJIOIP . Page b3 b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b3 b6 b7: b5 Per DOJXOIP b3 b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b3 b6 h?C hE Per DOJIOIP h3 b6 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} (Uf?FeH-a Interview with March 16: 2013 .On 03f16f2018 Per DOJIOIP h3 b6 b?C D5 Per DDJIOIP b3 b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 1 Of 2 Dnteofentry 06f18f2018 date of birth (DOE) Itelephone numberI was interviewed at his place of residenceI I after being advised of the identities of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the provided the following information: b6 kalled and spoke with Stone. They agreed to meet next time be Stone I About a month later, Stone called and they met atI I They discussed their support for Trump. Stone said that he regularly consulted with candidate Trump. b6 b6 b6 ?Hm-?mono? 06f12f2018 at New York, New York United States {In Person) b6 ?5 DEIIC dl'EI?Cd 06! 3K2018 This deeumeut eentuins neither conclusions efthe FBIleaned te- yeur agency: it and its ee-ntents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 163 b6 (Rm: (U) Interview of Communion .On 063? 12 f2 0 18 .F?ugc Stone always talked about his connections to Trump. Stone did not ask b6 not talked with anyone related to the Special Counsel's b5 investigation. I Ihas not communicated with Stone in a year or b7: more. Ihas not communicated with Corsi since nimgmm snug '1 Of 3' FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 07f02f2018 FEDERAL GRAND JURY INFORMATION This document contains information pertaining to a federal grand jury proceeding. The information may not be disseminated within or outside the FBI, except as provided for under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure wherein disclosure may be made to: an attorney for the government for use in performing that attorney's official duties; or any government personnel that an attorney for the government considers necessary to assist in performing that attorney's official duties. date of birth interviewed at the Special Counsel's Office, Washington D.C. by Special Agent and Assistant Special Counsel Andrew Goldstein. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the the following information: United States (In Person} lntestigution on at File 4'15 DEIIC dl'EI?Cd 06! 5f2018 by This document contains neither nor conclusions oflne FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCl1}' of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its contents are not distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 165 (Rev. (U Communion 0F (if on .Wx?ew of . On . Page 20f3 UNCLASSI b3 b6 1:13 b3 b6 b75451 b3 b6 b7: (Rm: (?L??I?m?rview of CommunionuFFD-??luf .011 06f15f2018 .F?ngc 136 137C b3 b6 b7: E'D-Siil (Rev. -1 of 2- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dnteofentry 07f06f2017 FBI Supervisory Special Agent at his place of employment, was interviewed the Engineering Research Facility of the FBI, I Quantico, Virginia, telephone lmobild IHaving provided him the identi ies of the interviewing agents and the reason for the interview, provided the following information: was out of town on the week of January 6, 2017, and was not directly involved in any preparations related to this equipment. However, he was aware that several days prior to January 6, a request came in from either SSA Director?s Chief of Staff James Bybicki, This re uest may originally have been to have access to a I:i of the Director?s Protective Detail (DPD) or the either by e-mail or phone call. aptop to be available for former FBI Director James Comey to use during a scheduled trip to New York to meet with then President Elect Donald J. Trump. Comey wanted access to a laptop during 13 trip to New York in order to take notes immediately following his personal meeting with Trumo. I iOn the January 6, 2017, flight, landing in New York and provided it to Comey for use in his vehicle. was on board with Comey. They used thel land upon etrieved the ?red laptop? I red laptop is capable of accessing the Secret network) Comey when he departed the aircraft. did not accompany Later that day, Comey returned the laptop tol lwho transferred Comey' notes onto his own computer, then ?e?mailed it out.? Ithen deleted lni'osiigution on 06!] 2 9f2017 File at Quantico, Virginia, United States (In Person} Dmemmkd 06529/2017 by This contains neither nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the ptepeny of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it and its eontents are not to be distributed outside your agency I b3 b6 (Rm: Interview of FBI Supervisory Special I .On 06f29f201? .Hmc 2 Of 2 his sent item from his e?mail system. may also have deleted the b5 document itself from the hard drive. does not know why it was b7: handled this way and believed it may have been requested by Comey. On the night Comey was fired, Ito discuss the b6 called the new Unit Chief to ask what they needed to do. The next day,[ Ishut off Comey?s access to the and his access to all three FBI enclaves within the SCIF at Comey?s residence. On May 12Jr 2017, the Friday following Comey?s to be Comey?s residence. Present at the residence was Assistant Director Richard ch Haley's! Associate Deputy Director David Bowdichrl and Chief of Staff to the Director James Rybicki. While I Iremoved all FBI equipment from Comey?s SCIF, Bowdich spoke with Comey. The laptop Comey used to take notes remainedl I ldoes not know whether b5 the laptop had been used since the time Comey used it to take notes following his meeting with Trump. Either the day before or day of Comey?s testimony to Congress on June 8, on official travel to New YorkJr contacted Ito b6 share his realization that was used by Comey ch during the January 6 visit to New York. Recognising its importance, they decided to remove the laptop from service. in turn advised] Ito inform DAD Peter Strzok about the existence of the laptop. Strzok and] rwent back and forth," after which Strzok instructed him someone would be in touch with him to pick up the laptop. On June from his New York trip and on or around that be day, the laptop's hard drive was removed and placed in a safe within I lunit. can be reached at desk and mobile 1 Of 2 Datcefentn' I Idate of birth social b6 security account numberl was interviewed telephonically at ch . . . '7 phone numberl lcontact information was provided to the Special Counsel?s Office via an e?mail from an individual named, using e?mail addressl IAfter being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: b6 b6 13TH 136 Hi?: b6 reguested 1:16 File thte dra?cd 051,2 9f2018 b7E by] I This deeument contains neither i'ceonmtendations sac-r conclusions efthe FBI. [1 is the pnepetty of the FBI and is leaned te- mur agency: it and its contents are net to be distributed outside your agency. FBK 19W1 1 70 D5f14f2018 at United States b6 (Rm: CommunionuFFD-??luf (U) Interview With .011 05fl?l?l2018 .F?ngc 2 Of 2 confidentialitv from the Counsel's Offioel b6 A copy of the original e-mail referral from is enclosed for the file as a digital 1A attachment to this FD-302. nim2mm:ssuu -1 of 10- Dwedbmn' 12f2lf2017 I lwas interviewed at the Office of Special Counsel by he Supervisory Special Agent land Special Counsel Prosecutor b7: Andrew Weissman. I lattorneys lrepresentedl was advised that the interview was voluntary and if at any time she wanted to consult with her counsel she could do advised that he needed to be truthful in answering the questions and that making false statements could constitute a federal that she understood and then provided the following information: b5 Pier DOJIOIP b6 DE 5?2: DOJIOIP b6 135 Per DOJXOIP b6 135 Per b3 b6 ?negligmionon 10f26f2017 at Wasington, District Of Columbia, United States {In Person} Ir?ilei.E I I Date dm?ed 10f31f2017' b6 by be This doeumeut contains neither reeonnuendzuious nor conclusions oflhe FBI. [1 is the pnopeny of the FBI and is loaned Io your agency: it and its eontenls are not to be distribulcd outside your agency. I I b6 me Interview Of .On 10f26f201T Jm? 2 Of 10 b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 55 Per DOJKOIP b3 b6 bE Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b3 b6 h?C 190-302;: (Rm. [us?nun} Interview Ofl I .On . 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(U) Interview of: 10,!261201? b6 10 of 10 b5 Per DOJIOIP b3 b6 b5 Per DOJKOIP b3 b6 b5 Per DOJKGIP b6 b7: 1 Of 4 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date ofentn- 12f13f2018 I Iwas interviewed at the Office of the Special Counsel in Washington, D.C. The interviewers were FBI Special Agents I IandI and Assistant Special Counsels (ABC) Egc Jeannie S. Rhee and Andrew Weissmann. Present representingl Iwere I After being advised of the interviewers and the nature of the interview, I provided the following information: DE Per DOJIOIP b6 b5 Per DOJIOIP 1:16 1370 hs Per b6 135 Per DOJKGIP b3 b6 03f02f2018 at Washington, District Of Columbia, United States (In Person} b6 me,- I I Date dra?cd 08503/2018 137.: I I b'i'E This deeument contains neither nor conclusions ofthe FBI. [1 is the pl?OpCi?l}' of the FBI and is loaned to }'ous' agency: it and its ee-ntents are not to be distributed outside your agency. 1 278} 6 1 82 (Rev. h? 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